Woah, a granblue relink thread. How's the grind going anons? Tried playing any new characters lately that you haven't tried before?
tfw just finished the main story and barely any threadsdid everyone leave for vg?
>>743359553Nah, just dead at these hours. There's usually a thread going all throughout the day here lately.
>Hit milestone>Get a popup that you've actually just unlocked more shit to upgrade>This happens more than several timesThis truly is the Endless Ragnarok...
Luv me SiegfriedLuv me GhandagozaLuv me YodaLuv me PercivalLuv me NarmayaWish it was easier to level multiple characters. Well that and I wish Gallanza wasn't so fucking boring because I really wanted to play him during the campaign.
guys be honest if it's just gonna be grinding mostly the same shit except a higher tier of materials and power, is it really worth paying 5x of what i paid for vanilla relink
Man Fediel is so boring to play, the main combo is especially awful
Is Spartan Echo + Berserker Echo a must have for everyone? It's really annoying trying to figure out how much of a boost different supplementary damage sources are giving.
>>743362114It's a 20% multiplier on top of everything you have.If you have 1000% damage cap up, each echo is a 200% damage cap up by itself.It's not that hard, anon.
how 2 play charlotta
>>743359508>How's the grind going anons? I'm not done with the expansion content yet so the grind doesn't feel much like a grind. Every upgrade is 2-3 quests away max.>Tried playing any new characters lately that you haven't tried before?Recently swapped from mostly playing Cag to Ferry. She's much more braindead to play, I like it.
should I play sandalphon or siegfried?
I wonder what they could do to make the game harder. Beyond one shots there's not too much difficulty in Relink. A sequel couldn't be just more grind tiers right?
Let's say they add two more characters like they did with Seofen and Song. Who do you wanna see added?
>>743362948Wamdus
>>743362948Shura
>>743362059It's weird too. I play Gallanza and Beatrix and their combos are either holding Y or spamming Y, but it's way more fun than Fediel's main combo.
>>743362948Sen and Monki.
>>743362948Vampy and Yaia, and Grea, and Yuel, and Mirin, and every Zodiac!
>>743362948Black Knight, Vira, Zooey, Silva, Yuel or the Gunlance girlBut it's going to be Seox, Belwyn and/or another homoknight
>>743363379>Mirin
dropped the gamecouldn't stomach the unbearable storythanks for asking tho
>>743359508Got all my black wee crabs collected for immortal sigil
>>743362948AlmeidaI wanna smash with a fuckhuge pickaxe
>>743365273The story is the worst part, but you can skip it and it's even when fully played only like 1/10th the game time. If skipped like 1/30th
>>743362948Six and Tiamat
>>743366708I knowI feel bad for skipping the story even if it's so badI really like the combat and I want to get to end game but fuck itmaybe this weekend I'll try to beat the story
>>743365273I mean if something isn't fun there isn't anything wrong about dropping a game be it for any reason really. I thought the story was okay and enjoyed playing through it, but obviously also enjoy the other aspects of the game. Seeing how you really like the combat I think getting through the story isn't going to be too bad if you just skip everything as it isn't really that long, but you shouldn't force yourself to play a game you don't want to if you genuinely just dislike it that much.
>Baha Versus>manage to press one skill>he instantly flies away and starts his Mario Party bullshit againFuck this fight holy shit
>>743367439I agree, but I'm enjoying the combat and if the rest of the content (post story mode) is really as good as anons say, I think this is the only game I would consider playing as a "it gets good after X hours" gameI've been watching anime since I was a kid but I can't enjoy that bland cringe anime stories anymore
how to farm mastery exp
>>743367806You can either farm slime mission in Chaos++ (best AI team mates seem to be Eugen, Eustace and Rosetta or just go online, a lot of parties will repeat), or AFK the Skelly survive mission in Chaos++, takes like 50 minutes for 400k MP and it gives Large Crystals for upgrading weapons (you can also sell these for large amounts of Siero Tickets)
>>743367306Fediel was a lot bigger than I expected after seeing her in some quests and playing Ferry in comparison aswell.>>743367671Fun can be a bit challenging to say as it really is subjective. I do think the gameplay overall feels really fun and the core loop of repeatings quests and bosses while having flashy attacks, but still allowing a bit depth in the game makes for a satisfying experience. It can get very repetitive and some rng grinding is definitely not what everyone enjoys either, but for me it's been fun regardless as I just hop around quick matches doing random things.The story really is generic anime tier and I can understand why people say it's bad or boring, but to me it was alright. I do think the barrier of getting past the story isn't too hard though as if you do skip the dialogues/cutscenes it really cuts down a lot of time. If you enjoy the combat and don't mind the grind and repetitive loop of fighting the same bosses for materials and some rng grinds it's definitely going to give you a lot of hours to play through in the post-story "mode".
tried maglielle went back to rosetta the spiral rose t-pose aura calls to me.
Why are there no new bosses from very hard to maniac? it's literally the same 5 campaign bosses on repeatholy shit it's so awful
Fuck I don't know who to play. Bea is fun, but I also really like Rackam, Siegfried, Ferry, and Eustace are all cool too just out of the characters I've unlocked. I don't want to bounce between a bunch of characters and divide my resources too much.
>boss vanishes and shits out aoes>charge parry the aoes and then slap the bosses as for 100 million damage with one move when he comes backPercival is fun
>>743359508>How's the grind going anons?I'm grinding Infinity quests for those sweet 100% DMG Cap Up summons
>start Infinity bubz>get Fediel on my team>guess I'm getting carried>dude constantly falls of the stage, gets grabbed, and spends most of the fight on the floor
REBIRTH AND DESTRUCTIONHERE AT MY COMMANDREBIRTH AND DESTRUCTIONAGAIN AND AGAIN
Lucilius acts like he is the coolest dude ever and then names his divebomb attack gopher wood.
Is Rosetta good now? I want to know before I start investing resources.
Is it even worth transcending Terminus weapons if they still require a max HP cap? Considering how hard shit hits later on toy probably want as much bulk as you can.
>team dumped SSBA right before Pyet A dps checkI failed this quest 3 times already
I don't know what to do with siegfried. I kinda wanna play him as a beefy guy with good defense and decent damage but that doesn't leave me any space to use more damage cap stuff. It's either full tank no damage or squishy full damage.
>>743371880Yes. The trait gets upgraded when fully maxed to give the bonus so long as you're under 200k which is more than enough for any fight.
>>743362948I want them to round up the Eternals so you can make a party of 4, so my pick would be Seox and Niyon.
>>743372196Pajeeta has a DPS check?
>>743362948we have Eternals, and an Evoker, so Zodiac makes sense, if they just want to introduce a little bit of that side of the lore anyway.I vote dragon and rrat.Payila - could be tanky and lower damage Substitute type, but building up to a mode that unleashes some of the highest burst in the game. Viky - could be more of a support buffer/debuffer, could introduce the concept of Field effects to Relink as a new kind of buff with over the top visual effects that change the environment. (we don't really need more attk buffs but you could do some nice stuff like giving everyone Uplift and Linked levels)
>>743372625Zodiacs aren't comingt. FKHR
>>743372453In chaos++, when it's 10% health. I think it also had that in base game.
>>743372702oh...
where the fuck do I get an era core
>re-buy the game on PC with the expansion>have gotten to seedhollow in the story>havent found a single other player to do the online with yet>even with full crossplay and open regionI guess anyone still playing this game is only doing the expansion content and there's like, zero new players, huh?
>>743373401main story game is easy enough to do with your bots so there's no point in looking for human teammates.
>bullying Behemoth as CharlottaThis is it.
>>743368252>Fediel was a lot bigger than I expectedShe is dragon shapeshifter, to blend in with humans she took the form of a draph but in her ignorance she forgot to account for the drastic gender size disparity that race has, so she is a female draph as tall as a male
LA9D ABG9 3E3J M363 room id, looking for frens who wanna help me get through proud quests so I can play ragnarok
>>743361301dlc is free with creamapi
>>743374038do you mind if my characters are probably OP for that tier? i dont think there's any sort of scaling down.
>>743373401i played the game the moment it launched and never touched online for like almost 30 hours
>>743374153He is specifically asking to get him to the DLC as soon as posible
>>743374153LA9D ABG9 3EWJ M353sorry this is the right code and yeah its fine but if you could play ur least op character id appreciate it.
'ate silver centrums.
>>743373735That would explain it then. Haven't unlocked her myself yet, but she does look cool n fun to play. Goes for a lot of characters in this game and makes it hard to stick with just one since they all look fun to play in their own way. Really nailed the aesthetics for characters and skills imo.
Do combo finishers, special charged up attacks, and basically anything other than X still count as "Normal attacks" for the damage cap? For example Danchou's charged up Y finisher, or Tweyen's Multilock Hail. What type of attack are they? Do they abide by the "Normal attack" damage cap since they are not skills?
Galleon when?
>Get lvl 15 Berserker Echo on a summon>It's actually a useful summon too>mfw "Healing Cap Up"
>>743369280>Why are there no new bosses from very hard to maniac?Wait till you get to the DLC>>743371880Maxed Ascension is better than Terminus until you get its last upgrade. Unless that is you have summons with good traits so that you can get back your missing supp damage.
>>743361301it wasn't the first time. it isn't the second one.
Do all Infinity quests have the same summon stat/trait pools?
>>743362948Monkey and Sara or no buy.
>>743376197I heard that's good because it increases healing from potions
>>743375408Anything using X/Y is a normal attack
>>743372196Does this exist in a higher res? It's one of my favorite stickers.
>>743370074Is infinity really that easy?I'm still grinding my stout heart and probably won't start doing infi with rando without it
>>743369778Cut one of them and now you have a party you can invest in semi-equally
>>743362948Carmelina and Anna
>>743378920where do you get that
What type of animal/erune is Fraux?
>>743380030Firewyrm and Ennugi summons can both have it, otherwise you dedicate a sigil slot entirely to it because there isn't a V+ version.
>>743380157>ennugiBehemoth, not ennugi
heh
>first queue of the dayplease don't let this be a sign of the retards i'm about to be stuck with today
>>743380338
>>743362948Zooey and Orologia
>war elemental>fatebreaker>celestial lumen>celestial ventus>celestial aqua>maxed damage cap>maxed supp damage>berserker echo>spartan echo>maxed ascension weapon>still barely tickle infinity bossesDo do I need to get carried by 3 Fediels to clear that shit at a decent time?
>>743382327What counts as a decent time? Like with the bots I can clear 3 of the 5 bosses in infinity with at least 3 min to spare so I'm assuming a good group of actual players could do it much faster
>>743382668I can never pass the challenge time (shit like "beat bubz in 8 minutes) and I only managed to beat Luci with 17 seconds to spare.
Is this a boob physics friendly game?
How long do buffs from summons last?
Do the primal bursts have any damage differences? Like, does Excavallion do more damage than Bahamut?
was neglecting the fuck out of my summons, didn't realize how much stats i was leaving on the table. tfw want to fuck shit up but waiting to play with my bro later to progress
got out dps'd by the dyke I guess we're nerfing her aswell?
We aren't getting new characters you have to wait till next expansion for that
>>743383663>dykeWhich one?
>>743359508Is this shit worth playing if i dont now a shit about about Grand Blue Fantasy and a i dont have any desire to dig deeper into it?
>>743383895Yeah.Each character has mini story episodes that give you a bit of their background if you care about that later, but you don’t need to know anything about grubble going in.
>>743382912Are you ML 50 + 5?World, bubz and luci are the ones I actually managed to clear with 2-3 min spare with the AI. For reference I had myself(ML50+5) and 2 bots(ML50+2) on ascension weapons and then I borrowed a 4th that had a terminus. World shouldn't be too bad once you get the perfect guard figured out, he goes down quick otherwise he can be a bit of a slog. Bubz can waste a lot of time but as long as everyone has 300+ stun the shield phases shouldn't screw you over that much and mercifully hail to the king pauses time. Luci's gimmick means everyone has to be avoiding attacks and can't afford to be tanking hits like in the other infinity fights but he himself goes down easy, just make sure to save an full burst for 10% and try to time it before the threshold so he doesn't get the 30% dmg cut. Versa is practically impossible to do fast with the bots because they don't understand the dmg gimmick and I'm running under the assumption that I needed to max out the rest to take out infinity hexa in under 12 min. Those were only my first clears of the boss so I assume that with termie weapons on the bots I can get closer to the sub-goals.Also I'd expect a lot of geared players going for world and faa-san now that they've been outed as potentially giving out 100% boosts with good sigil effects so online player pools for them will be plentiful
>>743384464on of that the world fucking explodes in two SBA chains if you have someone who can reliably PB i cant
>>743384464>Are you ML 50 + 5?I'm pretty sure I'm as strong as I can get without getting summons with shit like 15 War Elemental so that I could swap the sigil with a Celestial Incendo. All my current ones have 45-50% damage cap but most of their skills aren't very good.
>>743362948Sarasa.
>>743372376Literally my choices
>>743362948Loli characters. Flat chested females. There's enough cows and dudes.
>Main Bea since the update >Build finished, I'm coop farming for alters>Dmg is pretty much perfect, but I get another godlike stun+dmgcap seal>Let me replace war elemental+dmgcap since this boss is light >White damage >Surprised pikachu face.jpg>Look at bea carefully >She is WATER in this gameWhat? Why?
bros, am i stuck in purgatory?i feel like normally the room would have killed itself by now. Probably should restart the game...
>>743386527They wanted one of each element for the new characters so they changed her.
>>743386724i was also stuck, had to restart
>>743362948Vira and Vira
are you supposed to farm chaos++ lucy or infinity lucy
>>743387097you'll find worse fodder summon in chaos++ luciinfinity luci is basically either luci or refereeas long as you can clear infinity relatively fast it's a better farm spot
>>743362948Sarasa and Zooey
>>743386527Are you expecting Bea to remember her own element?
How do you get those blue things fast again?There is a quest for it i know but i forgot which one.Also when you get to Defy Infinity what is the best way to up your power? i honestly don't want to just get carried while hopping into one of those fights.
>>743362819>I wonder what they could do to make the game harder. Beyond one shots there's not too much difficulty in Relink. A sequel couldn't be just more grind tiers right?The critical meter and revival mechanics are far too generous. Instead of making everything instant death, make dying matter.
>>743387438farming the conflux has solved all my problems
>>743362819sba and link time should be nerfed to hell and backif people had to actually deal with overdrive bubs infinity from like 35 to 15 without just freezing him in place and skipping the whole phase infinity bubs clear rate would be like 5% in pubs
>>743387497I just got to the end game and i guess i will have to farm conflux then.
>>743387438In Proud, SlimepedeIn Chaos++, Revenge of the Ooze
>>743386724happened to me once and had to alt+f4
>>743387885*Slimepede is in Maniac, my mistake
>>743387497you can farm mastery points in conflux?
are the servers fucked or something I can't get into a match
>>743386527Eustace is wind
>>743388429stupid dog
>>743388048Maybe
>>743384569Can't the CPU perfect guard? I went AFK on his fight once and noticed I had the condition cleared when I got back to it finished.
3 thousand slimeblasts later.Follow the fucking rules.
>>743388623yea
>>743388645I think I'll wait until I've upgraded my team more but I might try farming Infinity World and see if I can manage it consistently.
>>743367306Ferry sex
>favorite part about gallanza is turning turbine finishers into parries>like actual parries unlike vane>but his two good master traits make this worthless to do>either you literally get punished with a 10 second stun if you do it on one>and you should basically never be spinning on showmanFucking niggers.
>>743359508I have 3/4 of these and am grinding the world currently for the last one
>>743362948Isla and Black Knight
>>743389126The entire showman master trait is such a mess. Only your finishers in his non-Deathmatch Finale mode reduces skill cooldown. So once you enter DMF, you have no way to reduce skill cooldown, so you're better off draining the meter by spamming Y on neutral and dodging. Then once you get your 10 stacks of showman, you want to go back into DMF to do that big skill since in DMF, you have a higher cap and more damage.
>>743362948https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW4mrqAdJUQ
>>743389202What are the second and third best cope %'s if you can't luckshit a 100%?
>>743389345I really hope they go back and buff the fuck out of galanza. So much about him is dumb.Like why the fuck is the first master traits for perfect finishers not only worthless but detrimental? Plus everything you said.
>>743388625A little less garbage one.I didn't become an artist for a reason.
>>743389658I just play him as the turbine master trait and turn my brain off. The parry on turbine finisher is nice, but I usually just dodge instead.
>>743389126>>743389345Cygames despises heavyweight hitters as an archetype and actively makes them feel shitty to use. Vaseraga, Ghandagoza and Gallanza all have terrible crippling flaws that normal characters don't have to worry about.
>>743389916If they really despised them there wouldn’t be 3 male draphs in the game and one (uno) female
>>743390001That's because the director is gay
>>743389916Anon has NOT played the fightan
Finally back home from work. But gotta warm up my gpu first before relink
>>743383179the boob physics are very subtle
>>743367306>mogs every other girl in height, booba size and gameplaythe gigastacy of relink
every infinity I try to queue for I get this shit but other quests work fine
>>743367306Miach owned.
>>743390306I'm getting it on literally everythingidk what's going on it was fine the last several days
>Id's endgame gameplay is just spamming Fourfold Vengeance in dragon, human and God formHELLO?What have they done to my Id, bwos?I loved him because he had one of the most varied gameplays I might just start maining another character... Anyone else that has good and varied gameplay and is not just an X spammer?
>>743390306servers are apparently shitting themselves
>>743390387Bea is a Y spammer, if you like that.
Do stuff that is tied to X and Y buttons but are not "normal attacks", like zeta's jumps. Considered Normal attack damage cap up?
>>743390443What I liked most about Id is that I actually have to pay a little attention to what is going on in the fight and use different skills to suit situations like his slow debuf, try to time my Godhood attack just in time for Link time so I can spam it non-stop... Also the human and dragon skills that let me dash from far away into the boss feel really good.Also his XXX and Y hits feel really meaty and good
>>743390306yeah I keep getting it tooI just wanna play, I got work tomorrow...
>>743359508Switched to Vaseraga after awakening Beatrix's terminus weapon. Beatrix is really strong but I got a bit tired of just spamming skills and spamming Y for damage, I really like Vaseraga so far but from what I've seen he apparently doesn't really give a fuck about his damage dealing skills? which means you just take the undying skill and spam N2E2 over and over for damage? this is what was in his guide before ER came out though, maybe his mastery tree changes this. I'll keep investing in him to find out, landing his charged attack stuff feels good as fuck
>>743390387I was an Id main and picked up Seite for ER, I like him.I don’t think he’s super technical but I get the same dopamine hit of filling up a meter and going apeshit with him.
I'm using cheat engine to literally speed up some of the AFK conflux grind (playing the game at 4x speed, not using infinite health or actual cheats)Am I ruining the game for myself?
>>743390760Just fucking kill them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z2lFkYEZ2I
>>743390795If you aren’t being a fag and ruining other people’s fun oneshotting bosses or whatever I don’t really care.I use fast forward when farming mats in MonHun and never felt bad about it.
>>743390549Yes.
>>743390795If you're still having fun, not really no. I don't use cheats myself, but I would be cautious of them as you could easily over do it and reach a point where there is nothing to do since you cheated everything and since you already started cheating what's a bit more to that. If you don't ruin the fun for yourself by cheating, go right ahead. Anon already mentioned, but please don't be one of those people who use actual cheats in actual lobbies that ruin it for others.
>>743390795i cheated in silvers and msp for myself
So, huh, where do I get base stat sigils
>>743391060>there is nothing to do since you cheated everythingOnly retards chasing checklists think like this.
>>743391184I like chasing checklists and making number go up
>>743390898Yeah, at the very least this character seems to be quite the fucking hard hitter, though I do feel like I have to know what I'm doing otherwise I'll be a burden to the team, very much in character for Vaseraga from what I've seen from his fate episodes
>>743391184You do you anon. I just wanted to point out something that appears when it comes to this topic where someone who cheated in a game ruined it for themselves due to there not being any sense of progression and repeating fights for the fun of it isn't for everyone.
>>743391349>Essence Mastery Trait Lv. 4: Diamond Cutter's max level cap is removed, but getting hit resets level back to 1. Charlotta's crown will grow slightly with each level.
>>743359508Not too great really, I've kinda realized the only character I can play relatively well is Io and I'm trash at pretty much everyone else, so it's getting stale.
>>743359508Started playing lancelot andj ust reached chaos++Not sure how hard I'm being carried since I can't read damage numbers in combat, but I seldom die and managed to beat blondie first try with shitty AIs so I guess I'm doing alrightI'm definetly going to use a trainer to grind mastery points once I strat using other characters, I can deal with grinding bosses but I refuse to do the slime mines again.>>743361141Is Siegfried really gimped? I dropped him after reading his masteries and the general doom and gloom and I've seen maybe 2 online
>>743387885when you're able to, do lucilius in chaos++. the only real damage check is at the beginning.
>>743391687YES
>>743390760Numbers changed a lot since base game, he doesn't need Less Is More to cap anymore and that combo route's damage was reduced. Now you ideally do skill>charge attack, or if everything's on cooldown N3E2. If you don't mind being at 1HP you slot Damnation since it gives a buff and can be used three times, otherwise stack four skills that cancel into charges.
>>743359508>How's the grind going anons?Stil on the comfy side, but might get tedious if it doesn't pick up.>Tried playing any new characters lately that you haven't tried before?No, I still use 4 out of the starting 6 and still trying to reach that point where new characters start with the most unlocks.Not sure where that breakpoint is.
>>743390795I'd say it's fine if you only cheat content that offers no challenge and that you don't enjoy. There's little practical difference between AFK farming fortitude crystals and just setting my quantity of fortitude crystals to 999.
>>743359508I built up Io only to learn that literally every cutscene, even using SBA, teleports you out of your circle. Fucking insane and borderline unplayable. I guess lifetime Ios just know this and play around it? Stargaze V is a lot of fun, otherwise, but the later fights are really difficult to get going.
>>743392117I will think less of you.
>>743392179Never happened to me and Io is my main.
>>743390795No you're a based game enjoyer for not wasting time on the brain off grind.
>>743390795The entire purpose of the game is to do a few raid bosses solo or with other players and optimize your characters rotation to keep damage uptime against said raid bosses. 99% of the game is pointless fucking filler so yes, cheat all the shit in and start raiding.
Is this worth it on the first awakening weapon?
Narmayabros? How are we feeling?
>>743393648You can take them off too.
is there a faster way to get a crown of lament other than behemoth grinding now?
>>743393735I can? Fucking neat.Didn't trust the message on the screen.
>>743393648those aren’t permanent, you can freely add and remove them
>>743390387ive seen him delete dragons in an instant with it
>>743393759pretty sure you can get all behemoth shit from conflux
I tried Narmaya for the first time and I cannot for the life of me figure out an optimal dps rotation. She seems quite complex.
>fought and won against chaos++ lucilius and beelezebub>i was the weakest link in the chainshit sucks bros thank god for those two charges of guts, three charges of instant revive and maxed out potion horder
>build Eustace specifically for AFK farming>he's complete shit and I do better using a melee character AFK than I do with himI feel betrayed. Building this faggot took like 8 hours.
>>743362948anilaanyone with a skimpy outfit and big tits desu
>>743394131One of her Master Style literally build for 30IQ people that throws away most of her swapping mechanics
>>743394150Isn’t Rackham supposed to be the AFK king?
>>743378920It's just the normal chaos++ quests but with more health, more stun bar and a tighter time limit. It's not like the jump from Lucy to Super Lucy in Relink.You need more damage otherwise you'll fail dps checks, but otherwise they seem to play out the same.
>>743394165never ever
>>743394330oh god PLEASE i need those mutton chops to smother me to death PLEASE GOD
>>743394280Rackam is a lot of things, but good isn't one of them.
>>743394330This is my only Granblue game I've ever (and likely ever will) play. I wish she was in Relink.
>>743394216Yeah, I don't use that. I don't know why you'd want that. Taking away her unique mechanics'd just make her fade into the roster.
>>743367306
>>743394610>race:draphlmao
>>743390795the fun in the game is buildcrafting, trying new playstyles and fighting hard bossescheating your way through everything else is smart
Getting my ass kicked, and not being able to carry enough, on Chaos+ yet, anything to specifically farm yet?
I heard you can AFK conflux. Is this true and how does it work?
>>743394165Sorry. She's too heterosexual for the game's dev. You're going to get another homoangel and be happy.
>>743394330She's so cute.
Just reached ER and I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to sigilsAre any of my sigils actually worth upgrading or should I just keep grinding?
>>743394960Swap tyranny for fatebreaker Get to 80k hp Get berserker echo
>>743395003Thanks, by the way, I already have White Knight Warpath and Luster, not sure if I should be using them
>>743394960attack power is worthlesspotent greens is pretty nichedrop tyrannyget charlotta's warpath, it's very strong, it allows you continually spam her y finisher plunge for big damagei would try to get sigils with aegis and/or greater aegisbe sure to transcend your defender weapon and swap off your terminus weapon, it's going to be outdated and stay that way for 99% of the dlc until they let you transcend it in the dlc postgame
>>743394280pretty sure people have been saying eustace is best for afk farming because he slides around or something
>>743394960damage cap and celestial lumenanything that increases damage cap is good (except lucy sigils)AFTER you have started transcending, anything that offers attack/damage and nothing else (tyranny, stamina, combo finisher, crit etc) is useless because transcended weapons become so powerful you will reach the damage cap with them and masteries alone
need monke
>>743395112Are Luci sigils just completely outclassed now?
>>743394280>>743394415>>743395108Ok I figured it out. I was increasing his effective range cause I thought that would allow him to attack from further away but you actually want to do the OPPOSITE of that and equip his mastery trait that reduces it because this makes the AI drag Eustace closer and closer making him way more consistent at staying in range of the enemy.
>>743395231yeah, they don't offer enough damage cap to be relevant anymorethey were excellent before ER due to limited sources of damage cap, but there's far better now and lucy sigils offer comparatively little
>go through story>unlock crewmates>they actually have some voicelines in the MSQhuh, nice.
>>743395302>sandalphon has voice lines in the angra mainyu intro fight>lyria: but he's the supreme primarch! WTFtotal kino
>>743395231You get so many damage cap sources that the pathetic amount offered by the Lucilius sigils makes them completely redundant now.
>>743395380I wonder if they added new lines for Fediel and Fraux
>>743395380nothing tops ghanda going ballistic
>>743395492dunno about fediel, but fraux does, i played through the story again with her when ER released
>>743395071While the invul is nice, the DPS buff you get from being able to spam X plunges without charging your Y attacks is simply too good to pass up on. If you've ever spammed those plunge attacks during link time by alternating between attack skills you can now do it anytime.
>>SBA Seal>>Skill Seal>>Max HP DownGod I hate the Lucilias fight in Defy Infinity so much. Still have no idea how to dodge Paradise Lost at the start.
>>743395632get resistances against the first twoparadise lost is always a cunt to dodge
>>743395632stand next to a circle holding block and dodge towards it when its about to explodethere you solved the entire thing
>>743395632Hold block and spam dodge. That's all you need to do.
>>743395231the only build that uses his traits now are builds that give up potion hoarder, auto revive and guts. only then will you have room for his traits which have to be from summons btw, and it's assuming you would use them over other stuff like uplift quick CD cascade etc
>>743395508Based. I had him from first unlock. His schtick of "MY FIST WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS!" never gets old. Well and every else's reaction to how the fuck he's so strong just punching shit all the time.
>>743395785I dropped him when anons started saying he was dogshit at endgame. shame cuz hes still my favorite. seems like ER didnt do anything either to help it
>>743395892whoa dude that's an insult to dogshit characters everywhereghanda is so much worse
>>743395923https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFXZpKHNAa8ENTER
Should I use damascus ingot to speed up uncap of weapons for new characters or should I save them for something
>>743395492they have them for all the new characters. I was hunting for the crabs and bea had her own voicelines.
>>743396027you should save them until you have 999 of them then post pics
>>743395923Sounds like a skill issue.
Vaseraga does more damage than Fediel apparently. Why are people sleeping on him?
>>743394131It's not really that complicated.>do blue stance combo>time the combo finisher right, gain butterflies and switch to pink stance>do charged attack>time combo finisher right gain butterflies and switch back to blue stance>repeat until 6 butterfliesPink stance's charge, if you just use it normally it's very slow. Never do this. If you use it after a combo finisher, a skill, or after three normal attacks (you generally don't want to do this) it charges quickly. This means you can start in pink stance, use Kyouka to gap close and then do a charged attack (alternative to starting in blue stance).When you have 6 butterflies you want to unload with blue stance Transient / Setsuna / Kyouka for big damage. If you have max butterflies and everything is on cooldown, just spam blue stance combo until something comes back up.That said this is pre-ER advice, I dunno what if anything has changed since I haven't had time to play ER yet.
>>743396559nobody is sleeping on vaseraga. nobody is playing him either because he's not a cute anime girl
>>743396624That's actually what I naturally defaulted to doing because it seems like the intended dps rotation - although I used pink skills just because I hadn't measured dps yet and didn't know there was an impactful difference. The DPS output was pretty dogshit compared to others just playing her like a burst character so I figured I was playing her wrong.
Why don't more people play Yoda? He's fun, has a parry, technicly has some team support, has room for growth by keeping your combo chain going, and has an ability that makes him completely invulnerable while still doing damage for like almost 10 whole seconds.
>>743396559Imagine being such a metafaggot that you're willing to force yourself to play a character you don't even like, and a male character at that.
>>743359508>tfw only 5 hours inI hate my job like you have no idea. The intense headaches + pain from scoliosis & herniated disks aren't helping at all.When do I get more crew tickets?
>>743396559Because it's pointless to compare it to a target dummy. Fediel is the only character doing top tier damage while having infinite uptime since she can ignore boss movement and mechanics and there is no way to fuck it up since it's just mashing one attack over and over. Percival can do Fediel tier damage too except for him to do it he has to charge parry every single attack and sit on the boss and if the boss moves at all it goes to shit because he isn't hovering in the air throwing a giant projectile.The problem with Fediel is the same problem with lightspam Sandal where the safest thing you can do is also the strongest.
>>743396852fediel needs to have her ability to dodge cancel balls removed, problem solved
>>743396559Because Vaseraga actually has to try to deal that amount of damage, while Fediel can just safely spam in the air while her orbs have lock on.
>>743396825ugly midget man, not cute girl
>people still do their ougi as soon as the follow up bar shows up>in chaos++
>>743397050wish she was as strong as she is cuteand that she had panties, not a black void
>>743396559Fediel does slightly more on the dummy, and significantly more on a large target.
>managed to get the clear the 1st phase in under 4 minutes challenge on the World>fail the quest cause I timed out despite having literally 0 downtime on damageI don't get this fucking fight. Why is his 2nd phase so fucking tanky?
>>743397470parry the quickenings, nigga
I'm a ghandagoza and I see fewer vaseragas then even me. Kind of crazy since vaseraga is easier to play and does more damage.
>>743396850you get a bunch for progressing the MSQconflux treasure rooms occasionally give them too
>>743397518i would play one of the lesser played characters but then i remember how much grinding it would take to get them up to speed
>>743397518I think ferry is the only character I havent seen once for like 70 hours of ER. havent seen a ghanda either now that I think of it
>>743397505I literally did. I got the 5 perfect block challenge too.
>>743397518In my 150 hours of playing I have yet to ever see a single Ghandagoza. Just yesterday at 145 hours I saw Ferry for the first time.
>>743397614It’s not as bad as it used to be now that conflux exists In base game I would’ve gone insane trying to gear more than two characters
>>743397693smart people just used cheat engine for the botsi guess you're not very smart
>>743397669I’ve seen a couple of Ferrys in ER.One Katalina, absolutely zero Rosettas.
>>743397736I don’t want to cheat though
why is the damage cap for io's x and y atttacks so damn high?
>>743397736You didn't beat the gameit's that simple.
>>743397819thanks for confirming lol
>>743397836i accept your concession
>>743397856you’re mean :/
>hehe i cheated I'm actually very smartyou're brown
>>743397926i hurt you because i love you and want you to do better
>>743393731Chained. I've tried playing other characters, but I always come back to her.
>>743397968says the guy arguing for wasting hundreds of hours grinding just so your bots have the dps capable of matching a sub-par human player and can enable you to have a chance at an end-game dps checkthat's real smart shit right there. help yourself to all those low-quality hours - keeping you out of matchmaking is probably a good thing
>>743398145Try being a Cag player.>relegated to support forever
Lmao the whole point of the game is to play mp not with perfect AI bots
>>743398251The bots don't fail simple mechanics thoughbeitever.
How much of a difference does going from 50 mastery trait level to getting that 50+5?
>>743398219>free mvp everytime for doing nothing >cutehow awful
>>743396825I tried him for a while back in the base game but some of his upkeep was annoying to me
>can't do the combo finishers between bea's enhanced embrasque sword chain in her crux treeGAYLET ME HAVE FUN
>>743396005They changed how his fist works, he cant longer do this
What's the best way to get Grand Refinium 1 and 2? I've got like 999 of 3 but barely any of 1 and 2.
>no co-op for Conflux
do fraux and fedi not have stun weapons???
My AI percival is doing better than me and I hate it.
>>743398805Take the CLOCKpill instead.
>>743399256my brain is too small for upkeeping buffs
Wait, don't tell me I need to fucking go out collecting crabs again for a broken sigil for the second time, they wouldn't do that again right?
>>743399361haha
INFINITO CREARE
Take the Rosettapill
>>743392353Larp, or the most oblivious anon of all time?It's only gotten more noticeable since ER considering your circle despawns if you leave it for more than 2-3 seconds at rank 3
>>743394415Was this dude cheating or can Beatrix actually facetank this shit on Infinite?
What mastery tree is the best one for an AI Eugen?
>>743368252>If you enjoy the combat and don't mind the grind and repetitive loop of fighting the same bosses for materials and some rng grinds it's definitely going to give you a lot of hours to play through in the post-story "mode".yeah I don't mind grinding for mats and beating the same bosses until I get better gearI'm thinking about downloading that mod that mutes the flying fuck of a companion that won't shut up
I swap the character im playing every mission or two and build up at least 4 characters at once because of this.
>>743399597>Was this dude cheating>chinkoid name
>>743399597If his health is high enough you can
>>743399597She CAN facetank in Infinity, but I do it when I'm in her Schizo Clock mode from her second Mastery trait tree at max level. He probably has quite a bit of Garrison too. Bea is very tanky almost to the point of making Infinity somewhat chill if you get decent with her.
>>743359508Beatrix main. Did every fight trying Gallanza out but its a shame. He seems to do dog shit damage. Beatrix on score attack only gets about 460 mill but in actual quest she gets better dps overall due to gold clock uptime. Fraux is fun and does 500 mill score attack but in an actual quest my Beatrix usually beats fraux
Patch doko
>>743399597Infinity doesn't really amp up their damage all that much. although damn how much defenses does yellow clock bea get if she's only taking like 7k with a 10%dmg cut
>>743362819Cant make it harder with pubs. I use a dps meter and its eye opening some of you monkeys are level 50 mastery trait 5 star and can't hit over 600k dps.
>>743395231Once you get your Master Traits going, yes.A Gamma is universal 15% dmg cap per slot, Alpha/Beta are basic/skill 20% per slot.Meanwhile, a Stun or HP sigil is universal 40% per slot.
Skimmed the thread and apparently Vaseraga can do a gorillion damage just by chaining skills into charged? I can do that.I dropped him pre-ER because I had how centralizing C3 was. And also because I'm bad.
>>743397736if you're using cheat engine for bots instead of giving yourself infinite resources you're the one who's not smart
hey I have an ideawhy not just use cheat engine to 1 tap every boss?that sounds way faster than what you guys are doing
>Damage cap level 51 with Vaseraga>He's still doing upwards of 350% damage with his charged attacksWhat the fuck do I do here? I'm feeling especially bad since my M10 Vas with a maximized terminus weapon just got outdamaged by a standard Charlotta at level 100 with no mastery against Lucilius
>>743391828try Eugen
>quest ends>stuck on eternally connecting before the results screenuh... the fuck do I do?
Maglielle is some if the most fun I have had in this game unironically
>>743401150cry.
>>743401171what's the most fun you've had ironically?
>>743399516is she for me or will i get cucked by a lesbian
>>743401350Don't waifu granblue characters man, the writing clearly favors people that like shipping
>>743401350She's for Io. Sorry bub.
I have barely been able to play due to life stuff since the expansion came out, I wanna kill myself bros
>>743401535kill yourself so you won't have any life stuff to deal with easy
>>743401535if you kill you'reself, you can't play the game. simple math.
>>743359508I keep having to pause to jerk of to Fediel.
>>743399361>gathered all the Big Black Crabs>no idea how to fit the sigil in my build anyway
>>743401775Its rough, you just can't part ways with some of these new fucking sigils its impossible, you take away one of the celestial sigils for example and you're suddenly missing out on 70% fucking damage cap bonus, it might not even be worth going for the damn crab sigil this time around, I'm not even taking the alpha or whatever else the fuck sigils that came out too which are apparently all busted and fit into countless builds aswell
>>743401775you need to have the mandatory damage sigils like war elemental and echoes on your summons
I'm a drooling retard blah blah blahIs the 'as a percentage cap of damage' number above 100% saying how much damage is wasted at my current damage cap and I need more? Like 110% means 10% of the damage didn't go through on a real targetThanks
>>743402126yeah you got that exactly right. anything above 100% is wasted damage
Castrate Fediel players
>>743401927>70% fucking damage cap bonusOh no a 3% damage loss at most.
>>743402142Is Barrold's defense set to a certain boss's? Like is Faa's defense the same as his so it'd be the same, or is it something different?
If I want to add a little survivability on one of my defense/support sigils for the mastery passives is greater aegis or stronghold better?
>>743402203Depends on the character you're playing but for mine its invaluable as I'm frequently hitting fucking 300-500% damage on the strong attacks, without those sigils all that extra damage goes to shit
which girl is the least played
Charlotta numbers are decreasing.
>>743401219Playing with my friends a long while back. Thry didnt come back for the dlc. Plus the red golem fight is peak, atleast to me.
I don't know shit about granblue, Why do I see this game get compared to MH? I thought it was inspired by xenoblade.
>>743402292ferry and rosetta by a long shot
>>743402292Probably Ferry
>queue for chaos++ behemoth>3 lvl 50 fediels >the all dodge cancel/orb barrage Well that was fast...
>>743402292Rosetta and Kat.
>>743402292Definitely Ferry and Rosetta.
>>743402356>Why do I see this game get compared to MHFight boss monster to gather materials to get stronger so you can fight bigger boss monster.
>>743402292>Have loved Ferry since I started back in 2015>She's shitI hate it
>>743402292>>743402392I haven't seen a s single rosetta. I still see ferrys running around.
I don't like how I have to grind 10+ hours if I want to try another character in the endgameFor fucks sake, I don't remember it being this bad back when playing the fucking GACHA granblue 7 years ago. At least back then the grind was per ELEMENT and just a little grinding for masteries and shit.
>>743402474>love vampy>she's not inAAAAAAAAAA
>>743399516>Get to ER>Move a rose>Boss moves out of it>Use the poison/heal mass-placement>Boss gets the fuck out of itHer burst is satisfying but holy shit
>>743402356Because it's mission based boss killing. It's not a 1-1 but it's there to give you the idea of what the gameplay is like
>>743400347I was so excited to play Gallanza but his kit is so damn boring. Still tempted to try him more because he's a big nigga.
>>743399516I mained her in base relink but had to switch to Charlotta eventually because no terminus drop.Her terminus dropped DEAD LAST for me. I might pick her back up now.
>>743399516>Wanting Grandad's used goodsNo thanks
>>743402474>love sen>she's not even inNo poca poca time...
>>743402658Terminus farming in base relink was the peak of suffering. I did proto baha so many times I ended up getting the no damage achievement without even trying, still didn't have my main's terminus.Ended up just using a mod that set the drop rate to 100%, then I realized I still needed to grind baha more because I needed more bahamut horns after the terminus I'd already built for my AI teammates (and Id who I built just because I got his early and figured I might as well go with it and try him out).
>>743402791It was crazy to do a full day of proto chicken just to get some fucker like Ghanda's weapon
>>743394330Her big horns make me horny
>>743399848>Was this dude cheating >"Above the Law" titleNo
>>743402791I had to farm him 100 times. my main's weapon was the last one to drop =]
'ate Lyria'ate Vyrn'ate Katalina'ate the Grancypher
Someone yesterday said Drain and Divergence are better than Drain currently. Thoughts on that? I play some facetankers and am deciding what support skill to bring.
Terminus farming and Lucilius were so terrible while also being literally the only thing left to do made me stop playing the game. I got like 2 weapon drops and said "this shit is retarded" and stoped bothering. Thankfully those Terminus tickets drops and I don't have to fight Lucilius till I can just stop playing again later as well.
>>743403305>if you hit tons of timesdrain>if you don't/fight has a lot of downtimedivergence/regen
>>743403339So Drain still sucks for big hits? That's a shame.
>>743403305it depends on your character and even the moves you spam, drain now has a base multiplier for each move and it's not always 1:1 with the motion value or damage cap
>>743403213For real, I hope a relink sequel drops the main crew and starts a new one just for the console games
>>743403305>facetanking Infinity LucilliusGood luck.
>fight world for the first time>charlotta>only they faint and with ONE faint left for the timer we barely clear itI was locked in.
>>743403468Id should definitely take over as this side-series' protagonist and find his own girl to life-link to. There's already several characters in Relink who have a good relationship with him and could become his gang, like Siegfried for example
Literally how the fuck do you die as Sandalphon?All you do with that character is dodge and do a zillion damage
>>743403774they nerfed him slowbro
>>743402474She's still bad even after the mastery stuff? are you sure? I was under the impression that the weakest characters got the biggest buffs with this stuff
Isn't Katalina actually good now since her Ares doesn't deactivate after a dodge anymore?
Why are there so many characters with cringe stack mechanics that get reset with every stage in Conflux? Did nobody test this shit?
>>743402274The total damage cap for everyone is around 2500%. A 70% difference is nothing.
>>743359508Can you build Eugene around grenades later donw the line? Seems fun
>>743403997Yes but she does no damage and has really low numbers on everything.
>>743402791>Terminus farming in base relink was the peak of sufferingloli wish that was fucking true. it's babby mode compared to the real grinds.
>>743404158Yes, you can grenade or sniper mode with him
>>743390387You can just pick the other mastery trees.Fourfold Vengeance build is a meme anyway and only works on stationary bosses.
>>743404170Should I kill myself?
>>743404304No. Become the one Katalina player, and do her proud,
Can Lucilius summon have good skills other than his unique sigils?
>>743401150Just wait it out, it happens when someone disconnects before the quest ends, eventually that player will get kicked and the game will be able to continue, it happened to me before.
>>743394216Sounds based
Making the new Terminus upgrade farmable through Conflux at release was a mistake.
Does Cag still steal MVP with her buff?
Who should I build up after I finish capping Fediel? I like braindead retard characters
>>743404706Beatrix
>>743404304No. I like playing with Katalina but I have never seen someone play her online, I would like to see her. Especially if you have light wall
>>743404732I fuck up her Y timing and change her clock too much
>>743390795I cheat engined up my bots because the endless grind in endless ragnarok is a little much.
>>743404706Gallanza skill spam
>>743404854How do play as that build? His skill master trait seems so wonky since you can't reduce skill cooldown during his deathmatch thing.
>>743404854His master traits are kinda dogshit
>>743404909>>743404925You asked for braindead retard, not good. Yeah, they really didn't think that through.
>>743404706CharlottaWhen I play with my brother, he's always bitching about some aspect or other about his various characters (Zeta, Bea, Rosetta), meanwhile I turn my brain off and spam plunge while enjoying near-endless invincibility
Behemoth is so shit as a melee character wtf.
>Reached the point where my AI companions are far too weak to fight the late chaos++ bosses and I am basically using them as nothing but distractions>Go online instead>Matched with M Lvl 50 people who kill every boss in 2 minutes
>>743404835Same brother. I hooe they adjust that.
Eustace bros what skills are we running?
>>743404706Rackam easily, especially if you play on Steam and can enable turbo mode on your controller to ignore the timing mechanic
>>743404170Does she REALLY do no damage? Like how bad is the difference here?
>>743405115Buffs and counter, filler attack or utility for the last slot.
>>743362114don't forget stout heart/war elemental on summons once you start getting legendary drops
>>743405151Somewhat outdated, but she's near the back of the pack
>>743404987I did play her and narm before ER and enjoyed them...hmm>>743405121I was thinking song but I'm guessing she's got too much going on?
>>743401416Io's based so I'll allow it
>>743399149Same. Makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong
>>743405380Ain't no way this is real. Rosetta that high?
>>743405380>duration man not in the worst tierThey should nerf him a bit more.
>>743405380>dummy testslmao
>>743404193fort L
>>743405380Siegfried bros, what the fuck happened?
>>743405380I wonder how much of Cag's DPS is getting cucked because she can't spam full potency spears because the dummy is too small.
>>743405513He's holding back for the first 60 seconds
>>743405513Insight's rampup is so slow that all the damage happens in the last 5 seconds
>>743395632people like to pretend that nobody ever gets hit so 100% damage setups are optimal but the truth is nobody plays perfectly, so if you get hit enough for it to matter, putting in immunities is fine
>>743396027they exist to be used, use them
>>743405380I can't even do 200m with Naru.
>mfw playing essence siete during link time
>>743405671Which one is that?
How the fuck do you play cagliostro he seems not very fun
>>743405737I N F I N I T OC R E A R E
>>743405380How the fuck does Vaseraga get all that
>>743405513A lot of characters have masteries that rely on building stacks of shit that isn't really viable against the training dummy. It's one of the reasons why you shouldn't take those numbers seriously.
based on my top played games should I get this? I know nothing about granblue
magli english va is weirdly endearing
>>743395632Hump the far end of the circle from where you start and you'll only have to avoid half as many lasers
>>743395632Vane.
>>743394756Mastery rank, masteries (including weapon collection and their buff).Aka, get all weapons forged and up to your main weapon's transcendence level and get all their buffs. Celestial Terra and Celestial Lumen would also boost your dmg cap. I'm also not seeing you rock alpha, beta, or gamma
>>743405468That's against a dummy that never moves out of her flowers. Everyones damage is going to be significantly lower in a real fight except Fediel since she just jumps in the air and throws giant projectiles that deal even more damage to big enemies than the training dummy which is why she's the undisputed best character.
do the dlc color packs have colors for the ER characters or nah?
>>743405765That one looks so fun to me but I cant play siete at all
>>743405947Yes it's for every character including the new ones.
>>743405823Not really. It's a lot of grinding and the characters are a bit generic. Also,>worldbaby instead of RISEGOD
>>743405823You'd probably like it. It's not as slow as those games because muh anime but the missions and game loop are almost identical to MH.>Upgrade gear>Fight boss or two>Upgrade gear to fight more bosses faster>Repeat
>>743405823Yeah. Post game this is pretty much just a monster hunter game
>>743406013I was unemployed during World please understando I like Sunbreak more
When do I go from mastery lvl 30 to mastery 50? I just beat the world.
>>743406085It comes at the end of the story content for ER, so like in a couple of quests
>>743405916>alpha, beta, or gammaThat shit get outclassed almost immediately.
Is spamming Machine Unit and High-Grade Scrap quest still the best way to farm Siero Voucher or is there a better way to do it?
>>743405761You combo into collapse. So while you're a melee character you actually have a lot of opportunities to disengage and fire off a strong projectile. Furthermore, you can charge after evading (even if you chain them) after performing a full combo.You can immediately charge collapse after performing Alexandria and Mimic Doll. Pain Train is good for gap closing. Reinforce is your best support spell since it's an AoE heal and you can reliably output 99,999 shields.Phantasmagoria is a bit of a trap since the attack boost ends up being superfluous. The other support spells are more desirable if you're running her as a bot.Since you'll be wanting to collapse as much as possible, your ideal combos are doing to XYY for large largest and XXYY for small targets. However, the spears in the XYY combo have deceptively long range and let you still engage with stuff with relative safety.You've got two notable mastery trees. One that modifies collapse so that it'll do consistently higher damage and randomly instant charge, while the other is more debuff focusses and puts you into a burst phase that lets you spam collapse for 20 seconds after you accumulate enough stacks.
>>743406138Ragnites trade for like 20 jew vouchers and every quest in Chaos shits out way more than you actually need to gear up a whole team
Best quest to farm good summons?
>>743405380What's the Gallanza strat? Considering his mobility, I'd imagine it's pretty replicable on bosses
>>743406162>since the attack boost ends up being superfluousAttack boosts from buffs are multipliers to your damage AFTER damage cap now. This is a universal change.
>>743406013>You're a baby for enjoying a better game more then a worse one.If MHW didn't have tenderizing and a little more variety in Monsters/Weapons it be a perfect game. Which was limited from moving to a new engine.
>>743406176
Does quick charge affect Ghandagoza's Ragining Fist?
>>743406227Even then I wouldn't say Phantasmagoria feels impactful at all. Meanwhile, Reinforce heals for a lot and any over heal gets converted into a shield, which ends up being a significant effective HP boost. It feels a lot more impactful, particularly when playing online.
Yeah I’m dropping eustace, whenever you don’t have his gauge full he does pitiful damage and charging the bullets really fucks the pace of any fight. Too bad he has some pretty fun skills.
>>743406426Not him, but you bring both. Phantasmagoria, Reinforce and Pain Train are the mainstays
I wish Tag Team Siete didn't have a timer on his stacks. There's no way this style works with bosses fucking off for bloodthirst phases every 5 seconds.
Do you guys farm for Health/Stun V+? They don't seem to drop in their respective missions. Do I need to grind more or is there a trick?
>>743406275the list I saw yesterday included the myths are real quest for stout heart. if that is true it is a great afk farming quest as it gives a ton of msp.
>>743406548Yeah that's how I got mine
>>743406534I just randomly have them, I assume from transmuting sigils and curios. you get a shit ton of vouchers late game from recycling materials you have too many of
>>743406534You get them a lot as a secondary skill on other shit. Just use sigil fusion.
>>743406275Can you actually get Rolan(war elemental) from the The World in chaos++? The game tells that Rolan is supposed to frop from it, but after 10+ times I haven't seen one drop. Compared to something like the Bubs or Faa summons in chaos++, which dropped like every other run.You can apparently also get WE on Gold Slime, which drops from Mazurka of War in chaos++.
>>743406671I have gotten rolans from The World in Infinity but haven't seen one with War Elemental yet
>>743359508So did they change the weapon sigil ? not going to farm 2000 of them for 1 single weapon of a single character
>>743406162cheers
>>743406230ThanYou're proving my point, worldbaby
>>743406227the problem is atk boosts don't work during overdrive and bosses spend 80% of the fight in overdrive
At this point I've resigned myself that no matter which style of bea I go for I'm going to be hearing her screaming in my ear 90% of the time
>>743406705Yeah I've also gotten it from the infinity quest, I think it's also guaranteed on the first clear. I'm just wondering if anyone got it from the chaos++ version, with or without war elemental.
>>743406651Sigil fusion is for when I have them in the first placeI've wasted all my stock so I need to get more but for sure there must be a better way than just waiting for them to appear after looting random sigils. That's why I'm looking for Health/Stun V+ directly.
>>743406807Getting fat multipliers in link time is well worth it and its not like Cag specifically is doing shit with her skill slots besides being a buffslut
>>743406128Nope. It serves a purpose since you still get damage cap increases without demerits (debuffs). Celestial Terra takes away health and Lumen only works above 70% hp, which is honestly some of the time during fighting, but not all
beabros I finally got an mvp in chaos++!
>>743406013>>743406230>>743406735>doing this shit even in a thread for a different seriesAll of you 5th genfags are an embarrassment to the series and should drop dead immediately.
>>743406851you can get link time during od as well, it's honestly a crapshoot whether link time or sba chains happen in od or out of it
I LOVE BEATRIX AND SHE IS MY WIFE
>>743406963she is way too loudi did a 4 dragons that had 2 beas and it was like having 2 screeching monkeys next to me the whole time, i can't imagine doing a quest with 3 beas
>>743407005okay, but what if you had 4 of them
>>743407005DOORYYAAAAAA
Is there a mute Beatrix mod yet?
the DCs are getting really annoying how do they not have a reconnect option
Is there an increase Beatrix volume mod yet?
Is there an increase Beatrix size mod yet?
Is there an add more Beatrix noises mod yet?
>>743407005DOKEEEEEEEEE
>>743406849wdym? the health/stun can be on the first slot or the second slot when you do sigil fusionsurely you have a ton of them on the second slot too, use the in-game filter to find them
Marry Beatrix mod?
>>743406125Thank you
>>743407273>surely you have a ton of them on the second slot
Pregnant Beatrix mod doko?
>>743407005Were you the Vaseraga?
Pregnant microkini Charlotta mod yet?
>>743407316
every character as Beatrix mod when
I wish there was a character that didn't have cringe stacking buffs that was fun to use. A big part of why Fediel is so overtuned is that she just spams the balls with no setup. Virtually all the characters I play have setups which can get fucked by Bloodthirst. Eustace, Ferry, Beatrix, Io and Cag all have stuff they have to setup before they can do damage.
>>743407273>surely you have a ton of themI used them all by failing fusions with other SigilsSo I need more. If I could just spam one boss to get a consistent source of Health/Stun V+ sigils for fusion instead of relying on pure RNG that would be greatI think I'm going to do what >>743406589 said and do more transmutation, even though it's not ideal
>>743407408Play skillspam Zeta or Percival
>>743407273i have 33 sigils with stun power on slot 1 or 2 after 250 hours
My Stun and HP sigils became vouchers 2 years ago because they were useless.
>>743407087>>743407123>>743407124Bea just wants praise
>>743407558How were we supposed to know...
>>743407558Mine too but then I got 30000000000 more
>>743406671Yeah you can get it. All those traits can drop from the Chaos++ quests.
>>743407560Bea being friends with her sword is cute
>>743405380Which masteries are they using?
>>743407408playing clock beta is so stressful becaause you need all three of your buffs and then you get to go into clock mode and then you have do as many finishers as you can as fast as possible and THEN you get into gigaclock modebut when the stars align and you get a full link time in giga clock and then it stays up after link time ends and you can just spam all over the boss for like 5 minutes straight while face tanking everything while your team is trying not to eat shit around you it's supremely satisfying
>>743407560>even her weapon knows she's retarded
>>743407005>>743407056FIYAHHHH
Give me a Sarasa and Okto duo boss fight.I want to hear GURAUNDU ZERO and HAHAHA OMOSHIROI
>>743407518>skillspam Zetaqrd
damn I don't like fraux, getting her strength mode or whatever is weird with how her stance swapping and moveset works
>>743405380It's actually breathtaking how poorly balanced this game is
>>743402292Ferry and probably Kat. Rosetta was bottom-tier in Relink but shot up after her ER buffs. She's quite good now.
>>743408009Rosetta still feels pretty awkward to play despite that, but I'll admit I could be doing it super wrong.
I just finished doing defy infinity Beelz offline and this fight fucking sucks are they all this bad?
>>743404694No, the difference in DPS numbers will usually lose you the MVP. Comparable dps will net you the MVP due to the buff, but Cag has bad damage now.Cag's damage as a support char is bad enough that my friend and I question the legitimacy of bringing her along - the 100k shield ain't shit at end game and gets one-tapped, the revive is almost NEVER used because neither of us go down and bots just ignore being hit, and whilst Phantasmagoria is hella powerful, I doubt it's worth sacrificing a DPS slot that another character could bring.
>>743408157Faa is worse. At least Bubz was pretty fun.
>>743405380My mate plays a Siegfried that can compete with my DPS as a ball-spamming FedielHe uses the perfect strike build
>>743408295probably an autoblock/guard cheater if he can maintain the stacks the entire fight
Should I do infinity quests offline for the first clear?
>>743408157Beelz is the most fun of the infinity fights by far. What about it sucked?
>>743408352It's kinda hard but showing my inexperience to others would be even harder
>>743407747Oh shit memes from the gacha
>>743408157All others are nastier than Beelz.
>>743408407the thing that sucked the most was me. it was just me that suckedalso my character is in the air 90% of the time and I cannot react and get to the ground in time to block red orbs so that genuinely did suck
>>743408486the world is piss easy as long as one person can perfect guard
WHO IS MORE FUN FEDIEL OR FRAUX OR MAGPLEASE HELP I CAN'T DECIDE ON MY FIRST CHAR TO INVEST IN
>>743408550fraux is too clunky for memag is pretty funfediel is fun but pretty simple so I feel like she'd get boring quickly
where is all of maglielle's damage? is it literally only in blade dance and her regular combos do no damage?
>>743408619Her damage is done straight to your dick because of how stiff she makes you when playing her.
>>743408619Your only other option is running her Superlative build and keeping her stack active as long as possible.
>>743408550invest in cagliostroalchemy is on the rise right now, buy in to make a killing later
>>743408891I've started to like her debuff masteryIt gives little rewards and encourages at least trying to rotate. Plus I like the buzzsaws even if they aren't great.
>>743408550I like MagUse her weapon skill tree so you can mald when the boss teleports 0.1 seconds before your chandelier drop hits
This okay for Vane? Perfect is impossible, but I think its okay
>>743408619I don't know what any of the numbers are but the normal combos still seem okay, I always hold the finishers until it turns pink and you get extra pink swords on your next combo if you start one right after. Blade dance during link time is really strong and when out of link time, I always try to time the perfect release. I've been using the gun for extra damage but I don't really know how much it's adding. I think the last finisher does the most damage but it's better for larger enemies while the first one is great for fast/small humans. The second one seems to be solid AoE that's easy to control.
mmm comfythe top two damage caps are gonna be replaced and I will probably drop the awakening one too. not sure what to replace it with yet
>>743409007Fish for Stun Power anything else is honestly just a bonus by endgame.
>>743409082oh it ate my image
>>743407523bocchi
I hate burn damage so much
>>743396559On dummy? You know Fedeil is literally at like half potential on dummy since it doesn't multi hit right, it's even dumber in actual quests, even a perfect Vaseraga wouldn't win.
remember to thank your tank danchou
fuck the dummy dps, who deals the most damage besides fediel in actual fights?
new thread doko
dragonform Id is kinda insane on cpu, he is just spamming attacks non stop
>>743410213>first time into chaos++ faa>charlotta, narmaya, tweyen>i'm the only one who is attacking him as they all go for weapons>we lost>they all quit instead of retryingOkay. That's fine i guess.
>>743410338Charlotta
>>743408486wtf just did the world offline and he was way easier and more fun
>>743407560I've mained her so long, her voice narrated the whole text in my head
never doing lucilius infinity again toxic ass fight
>>743406903The POWER of understanding damage cap. Also, picking a fire element beast
what the fuck is up with maglielle's y tornado? is this thing drunk?
>>743411072you will tard wrangle the blade twister and like it
>>743408157My team that beat the final boss (zegos infinity or whatever) were straight underdogs. It made the endeavor worthwhile when we actually finished with 29 seconds left. We fucked up on two of the spirits and the warp challenge and lost crit gauge as a result each time, but we managed to recover by using our link attacks or SBAs to attack some of the dragons in between (and recover critical gauge), so the gauge didn't reach 0. I also cast a crit guage up/recover summon that increased the gauge by 8% and that's the only reason my team didn't lose right before Zegos went into final stage (we had like 1 percent crit gauge left) since it seems he takes some crit gauge away there regardless
