>already forgottendamn we really need a new chapter asap
The trailer showed a lot of gameplay footage cleary from following chapters.Really wonder what they are doing.
>>743361729ChatGPT writing.
>>743361729>have a video series with frequent releases>top of the zeitgeist>go full retard and decide to Make a Game(TM) like you are a western porngame patreon scammer>2 fucking years of no videos, no game>The "game" finally releases>2 hours long, nothing really happens or is resolved>back to no videos still>next "game" will be in 4 years and last 1 hourThanks I hate it.PS. Umami always made way better youtube animations and actual art over lol so random transbbq pandering.
>>743361729>That week of great discussion following ep 1 releaseGame was pretty sick, was very keen on more>already been a yearits dead isn't it?
>>743361729I know Joel is a slow worker in terms of output, but I really like the game so far.Next chapter needs to be soon though, the wait is kind of crazy for just another 2 hours of gameplay.I'm not gonna complain too hard about it though, I don't want it to come out rushed and unpolished either
We need to find out where the hell is the boss
I AM THE BOSS!
Ah, a nice stealth Deltarune thread, my main man!
I have troonslop fatigue
>>743361729It was very goodI think it's nice when people produce things like this, that are actually good enough I can reccomend themEventually, there will be enough fun videogames to fill a lifetime, so there isn't a point in making more mid filler slop that won't be rememberedI look forward to the next chapter, but any time before the fall of western civilisation is fine (30 years)
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>>743362154>gameplay
>>743363984I AM THE BOSS
>>743362379How is it taking him so long? Gameplay is minimal and the thing that has the most effort go in, the 2d animations, is the thing he was supposedly able to do really quickly when it was youtube videos.
>>743363984Saved
>>743363984ENA is great at making dummies who can't process abstractism self report themselves
>>743363984I wish I could say this isn't true
>>743363984I must remember to post this when chapter 2 finally drops
>>743361729From the start I knew that this game wouldn't approach anything resembling completion within the decade.It's a classic example of "auteur creator bites off more than he can chew with an actual project instead of loosely connected art/videos".Like many things from annoying creators such as this, I just put it in the mental deep freeze and don't waste much thought on them. To actively follow and anticipate such things is just pointless stress.If I paid money it'd be a different story, but I didn't, so I don't care.
>>743363984
>>743367365What's done is pretty good, and he's doing moreIs this not what art is?
>>743367554They're right
>>743367564If it was art, you and the others who like it would be more discerning. You would judge it. But he's eventually going to make more ENA Dream BBQ chapters, or animated shorts, and you will like them as long as they feature ENA. You can pretend you are sophisticated and "get it" and an art appreciator visiting a gallery, but you aren't. You're barely about a Star Wars fan who will clap as soon as they see Baby Yoda no matter how much or how little merit the actual content has.Try to describe an ENA Dream BBQ chapter or short that you would dislike, and why. You can't.
>>743368657well said>it's avant garde high art! >which also has plushies for sale on fangamer!whatever strand of autism turns terminally online people into trannies also automatically into fighters in a pseud arms race, every single one of them are desperate to look like they have the biggest brain take on art they can muster - but ironically the art they consume is all incredibly base, so they end up writing massive essays on shit anime and """weird""" walking sims - which guess what? just so happen to be inspired by early 90s aesthetics.... again!
>>743369246uhm... did you grow up in the 90's.... perchance...?
>>743369246The best part is when they see something legitimately weird and they go "erm, sweetie, that is not wholesome keanu chungus 100" before gravitating towards "Generic 90's throwback #2,387,443"
>>743368657>Try to describe an ENA Dream BBQ chapter or short that you would dislikeOne that wouldn't surprise me
I just want more Taski
>>743368657>>743369246
I do not understand the appeal of ENA stuff. Looks like yet another zoomerfuel amazing digital circus.
>>743369246>art has to offend the senses or it isnt artBy definition the game is art. A visual designer spent time creatively designing visuals. All games do this, but this was the main intention with Dream BBQ. People get so bent out of shape out of this guy just making weird cool shit to experience because Americans poisoned everyone's brain with muh politics.
>>743368657Filtered. Nobody is claiming its high brow art. You just don't know how to fit abstract concepts into a solidified theme. Even though all the handrails are still there to help you.All you see is "lolsorandum consoooom" and assume since you can't get anything out of it that it must be bad.The next chapter of ENA could have thousands of things in it that I would not like by the way. How about if the whole thing was just fart jokes? I'd hate that. What if the whole thing was political propaganda? I'd hate that. etc.
>>743369614>Hey Joel G what are your personal politics?>Oh I dont get into that stuff. I just want to create artAnd suddenly /v/ and the trannies agree on something: that this man must be destroyed
>>743369560Find me a single ENA fan who isn't autistic and I'll be a little more generous, but right now it's obviously just 'tismbait.I felt the same way when I saw the first episode of Digital Circus.I also think >>743369246 nails the "pseud" appeal.
>>743369246Do the contents of an art museum stop being art if the museum charges an entry fee or has a gift shop?
>>743368657>and you will like them as long as they feature ENA>Try to describe an ENA Dream BBQ chapter or short that you would dislike, and why. You can't.I'll take that challengeSo, ena is on a quest to find the boss. It's the yellowblue ena. They walk up to an italian plumber with no dicernable markings and no faceThey ask him: Where is the boss?He responds: The true boss was inside of you all alongEna is distraught. They "have a realistic panic attack" right then and there while all of the characters from past ena journies circle around to comfort themMoonie floats up to ena"Don't cry ena, everyone loves you"Ena looks up, tears in ena's eyes"I don't know who I am anymore"Moonie responds: "I think I know someone who does know"A human doctor walks on screen."Ena, you are a transfolks"He hands ena a set of pillsThe whole screen falls like a wooden cast, and we see a real gender ambiguous person crying, while being comforted by their fat asian friend, a cat, and five or so other figuresFaceless mario is still in the corner, unmentionedWe then move to a timelapse. Ena takes several pills and puts transflags on their wall. It is still unclear which gender they are and which they are trying to beFade to blackText reads on screen:"To all the ena's of the world, Keep fighting"A nord vpn ad playsDone, I would consider murdering the author after that
>>743363984I think this anon will be vindicated
What was his problem?
>>743369939>someone wasted all this time to complain about trannies like we've gone back to 2020Please get a job
So it seems the only thing ENA could do wrong is if it did anything that wasn't lolrandom.The ENA fanbase has spoken.
>>743370039It actually didn't take much time at all, it was wordvomit
>>743369939Yeah this would suck. You could even remove the trans stuff and make just make it a generic "you have to wake up from your coma" kinda cliche and I would still hate it.I don't see Joel being this creatively bankrupt though, not based on what we have so far
>>743370186As long as it just stays wacky and random and has references to online stuff, I'm satisfied. I don't want it to do anything else.
>>743370061Yes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8XeDvKqI4E
>>743369683I don't think autismbait is a bad thing in itself. I enjoyed Undertale because of its meta narratives and unique take on rpg genre. I enjoy Deltarune because of its mysterious plot that fuels unhinged theories. I enjoy Yune Nikki because of it's music and because dream exploration is genuinely relaxing and immersive experience. I enjoy wide range of other flavor of autistic games and projects that you might or might not consider autismbait.But I genuinely do not see any appeal of ENA. It feels like some random westerner's art school project. The voice acting is especially off putting.I would like to hear opinions of people who actually enjoy this.
>>743369246They also like to pretend they're art appreciators, but you know what art appreciators do? They discuss it. These people don't. They just defend. Any criticism of Joel or ENA is wrong, and they will tell you so. They have ZERO critical things to say about any of the work. They want to treat it like art, but conduct themselves like xbros defending a console.
>>743370521
>>743368657Aside from that being linguistic drudgery, the game Was discussed in detail, it's themes were combed over, and it has overall been judgedAnd now, eons after release, people are off handedly talking about how they want to see it come backWhat about this is special? The situation is no longer pieces of the game but the faded idea of the game in peoples minds. People here haven't replayed, so they don't have many new thoughts on itAlso, obviously, if you want to discuss specific criticisms of a game instead of talking about vibes, it would be best if you wrote specific criticisms of the gameA statement with no backing can be shot down with no backing
>>743368657>>743369246>>743369372>>743370521I'm so glad someone is real and not some autistic retard blindly defending their own "Nintendo", or a fucking shill bot. Not just here, but across the whole internet you'll find midwits that are full of passion but have little understanding. They make up their mind about a position and then dig their heels in, even if you destroy them like you just did. They either go in a loop or downplay what just happened. The more I see this pattern repeated, the more I realize people have been conditioned to think argue like young women through pilpul and anecdotes, throwing away all objective reasoning and logical considerations.
>>743369994Nonkey Jong has no problems....Nonkey Jong has no solutions either.
>>743370462It's just silly shit for the sake of silly shit. The same as, say, Earthworm Jim or Space Funeral or Pop Team Epic or Naked Gun or Discworld. There may be some kind of overarching narrative or underlying message, but it mostly exists as a driver for the jokes. If these jokes didn't resonate with you, well, that's too bad I guess. Different strokes for different folks.
>>743371185Okay, and what criticisms would you have of Dream BBQ so far? And realistically how could chapter 2 disappoint you?
>>743362154It took forever from the original trailer to the 1st chapter release too.
>>743368657applies to deltarune/undertale, TADC, etc too
>>743361729The premise of an ENA game is flawed from the start. The appeal of the animations is the foreigness; the surreality and nonsense. This works for an animation because the viewer is just along for the ride. They can analyze the world post hoc, because they don't need to plan to approach it. A game, however, requires at least some slight level of knowledge parity with the main character. An ENA game is just lolrandum and there's no way to approach it satisfactorily.Conversely, look at hylics. It's also surreal and nonsensical, but Wayne isn't exactly opinionated or knowledgeable. He's almost along for the ride as much as we are. It also helps that it has actual gameplay, even if it's just a jrpg; there's common meta knowledge there. Walking sims don't have any bones, and ENA's setting also has no bones.
We will get more best girltrust the plan
>>743371813Chapter 5 of DR is the first time I've seen the cult express even a little negativity, but that was quickly crushed by the pseuds who naturally have to declare chapter 5 is ACKSHUALLY the BEST chapter so far, and the only reason anyone is complaining is they don't GET IT.Frankly, autistic people online are just not capable of any kind of reasonable discussion. Everything is attack or defence. Take a look at how the shields get raised in these threads the moment someone even dares to suggest that there COULD be a criticism of ena dream bbq or the future chapters.
>>743371725What criticisms of a game I liked about a year ago do I have?Let's see...At one point there was an npc I was told to get rid of and I jumped on him, which did nothing. I would have rathered the game had more active interactions with the world and it's thingsAlso, it was difficult to track what I had done. I think a map would make the wandering bit less interesting, so I would like something like pitons or paint to mark the worldI think a few secrets were bothersome to find, and I remember jumping into a wall in an abandoned movie theatre, but that isn't really an issue with the game I played but the game I didn'tWhy, did you play the game before coming to the thread?
>>743371958This is a good point. In order to be playable, the setting immediately has to surrender to logic. You're given tasks to do, and you can buy things. To actually play this game feels hardly different to countless other 90s interactive games. The only difference is you talk to someone and they're say something WEIRD and it's up to you if you want to pretend thats interesting or not. Frankly, finding out half the dialogue was actually references to memes and streamer jokes and shit really damped my enthusiasm.The only thing to really "do" in this game is talk to people, and they have nothing interesting to say, because it's just wacky, random and silly. Which is fine but I also just don't care? If chapter 2 never came out it wouldn't really matter.
>>743372247>ugh you want me to talk about a game I played a YEAR ago!?Well, yes? You entered the thread didn't you? If you don't care about discussing it anymore, why enter the thread?>did you play the game before coming to the thread?Yes, I played it.So, realistically how could chapter 2 disappoint you?
>>743371958Jeez talk about being a psued.
>>743369994nonkey john egbert
>>743370521Definitely true of >>743372525
>>743372050With all due respect, you sound like someone who would jump at people wearing Metallica t-shirt demanding they name their top 5 Metallica albums right this instant.Consider for a moment that people are shooting down your criticism not because they are avid fans, but because you take things way too seriously and bring up points that others couldn't care less about.
>>743372471>Well, yes? You entered the thread didn't you? If you don't care about discussing it anymore, why enter the thread?Updates and theoriesI like reading what the anons have to say about games we played together>Yes, I played it.Is there anything specific you didn't like about it, or do you just not like the idea of the game being intentionally weird and confusing>So, realistically how could chapter 2 disappoint you?I don't have many specific expectations, but if there wasn't an underlying theme I would be botheredI would like to be surprised, so I suppose if nothing happens I will be disappointedWhat did you like, what did you dislike, who was your favourite character?
>>743372723>you sound like someone who would jump at people wearing Metallica t-shirt demanding they name their top 5 Metallica albums right this instantNope, I wouldn't do that. Strange strawman, but if that's what you need to deflect, go ahead.I appreciate you proving all my points right though.
Ena dream bbq is the only game in existance that 'insists upon itself'. It tries way too hard to be dadaist, but it just doesn't work. I guess the use of writing spoils the whole thing for me. The only 3d walking simulator i can think of that achieves dream-like surrealism is LSD: dream emulator.
>>743372832And you proved mine. Shall we kiss?
>>743372841You've played LSD: dream emulator and ena?Could you talk more about how they compare, I'd like to see if joel was inspired by it or they are just superficially similar
>>743372525Sorry I should be more clear. When I said look at hylics, I was referring to the game with the same name I didn't want an actual one to show up.
>>743371813How does that apply to undertale if it was released in one go?Also Deltarune sure had chapters released separately, but it has actual plot and narrative(arguably, majority of its appeal is in there) that people discuss. This is not an art piece first, it's a concrete mystery story with some meta narrative about escapism and control.>>743372050>the only reason anyone is complaining is they don't GET IT.It's true though. Most of the complains were:>muh NTR, why my favorite ship didn't work!>muh filler world, why am I not force fed plot down my throat like last time!>muh mewmew fight, why my favorite Gaster/ERAM/FRIEND secret boss batle theory didn't work!People who want this to be yet another run of the mill jrpg really do not get it. It's like they have forgotten what made Undertale good in the first place.But worry not, sloptubers will make 100 theory videos and majority of the complainers will realize just how much plot development went above their heads and they will praise ch5 for being a teaser to their FOTM secret boss theory. This is how it was for literally every chapter in past and will continue to be so until 7.
For those new to ENA threads here, people who actually like the game stopped making threads ages ago because they are a super magnet for a couple of extremely autistic trolls who constantly shit on about how this game is too pretentious, or random or trans. Same shit every thread.No other walking sim game seems to get this much autistic attention here for some reason.Check the archives from just after when chapter 1 released if you doubt me.
>>743372784>do you just not like the idea of the game being intentionally weird and confusingNo but I would like to watch you make the same strawman accusation for the 1000th time in response to anyone who doesn't like the game as much as you.>favourite characterShaman. But Taski Maiden is a lot of fun, and cute too.>what did you likeThe 2D animation was always incredible.>what did you dislikeI don't feel like it had a strong enough hook to see what happens next, but I appreciate it's hard to do that when your narrative structure is as loose as ENAs
>>743373161I hate this website so goddamn much. Every game has a dedicated schizo and the jannies do nothing about it.
>>743372929>you proved mine>you make people in metallica tshirts name metallica albums>no I don't>heh, I was rightAlways nice to be reminded that discussing on 4chan really is just babysitting autistic children
>>743373247In fairness, ENA is one of the biggest autism magnets online. It was bound to happen.Are there any ENA fans who aren't autistic?
>>743372994The inspiration is obvious and the gameplay is pretty much the same, exept in dream bbq you can interact with objects and characters for unique animations. The main difference between the two, like i said before, is the focus on the writing and the characters in ena's game, which is why i prefer LSD.
>>743373260If you want to be pedantic, I didn't say you did it, I said that you sound like a kind of person who would. It's an abstraction, you see. It's not supposed to be taken literally.And the part you proved is that you take things way too seriously, and then accuse others for your own misconceptions. I hope that clears things up.
>>743373181>No but I would like to watch you make the same strawman accusation for the 1000th time in response to anyone who doesn't like the game as much as you.Oh, are you not the same person as all of those criticisms about the game being intentionally weird and confusing?That's strange, I could have sworn there was a single person on the other end
I’m schizo.
>>743373425Didn't lsd sim have "Paths" and a "Map" and such? Wasn't the gameplay about trying to understand the shape of the dreams, where ena is about moving through them while interacting with people?I thought there was more to lsd sim
>>743362379I think he made the right call. ENA as it is doesn't have legs as a long running video series, the constant incoherent silliness will eventually get tiresome for the vast majority of people. Instead of running into that wall right away, stretching it out by stuffing it into video games instead give the series a longer shelf life - except it's still taking way too long to pump out episodes.
>>743373684I don't remember making this post.
>>743373747The game keeps track of all your dreams, and their alignment depends on what they were like. There are also ocasional cutscenes between them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKBeAJphmIw&feature=youtu.be
LSD Dream Emulator is just Yume Nikki but less refined and more nonsensical.
>>743373762>the constant incoherent silliness will eventually get tiresome for the vast majority of peopleNot me. He can make the same thing forever and I'll love it all and get mad at anyone who doesn't. That's what art is all about.
>>743370521True. I praised the game, but apparently not sufficiently, because my praise went completely ignored and I was still accused of being the "enemy"
>>743370521It's trueI was shot, stabbed, beaten and bruised in on and around every part of my bodyMy wife is dead and my kids are missingBut I've remained strong and only given ena a 9/10
>>743375564You'd get a lot more engagement if you just tried a bit of subtlety
>>743368378When you're prediction is that vague it's pretty hard to be wrong, yeah. Might as well just "predict" that the game will release and have characters. So brave.
>>743376141Trust me, I get plenty of engagement. I touch a lot of nerves too. The trick is saying something you unironically think then sit back and enjoy you getting mad about it but being unable to claim otherwise.
>>743376214
>>743373762he should have sold the IP to Glitch.
>>743376151Not really. You can't usually predict that people will love season 2 of a show, even if they liked season 1, because there are lots of ways they could fuck it up.Even people who liked Andor more than any other star wars thing thought there was a chance of season 2 fucking up everything.But it is true that fans of ENA chapter 1 ARE going to love chapter 2 as well, no matter what Joel does with it.And if the best examples of things that prove this wrong are "ENA cries and wakes up during transition surgery" then I think it's fair to say they are going to be happy as long as it's lolrandom again.What could happen in chapter 2 that you would dislike?
>>743376457Anon, even season 8 of Game of Thrones had people defending it.You could make this statement about literally any show or game
>>743376332What part of "He can make the same thing forever and I'll love it all and get mad at anyone who doesn't" does not apply to you, anon? We both know how mad you get at anyone not liking ENA as much as you and will spend hours fuming about it.
>>743376551Nigga you've been making the same arguments for over a year.Who is really the mad one here?
>>743376534Yeah and every show or game will have people who decide they don't care for it anymore. But fans of ENA chapter 1 won't do that.You are proving it yourself every time you refuse to tell me what could happen in chapter 2 that you'd dislike.
>>743376649>Who is really the mad one here?You because "He can make the same thing forever and I'll love it all and get mad at anyone who doesn't" applies to you.For over a year you've been kvetching at anything that isn't praise. Samefagging too. Sometimes for over 8 hours.
I like ENA a lot and it makes me sad that it attracts such shitposting. I do feel like a fraud though, I tried watching the esoteric retina and it didn't do anything for me.
>>743376792>such shitpostingLike what? A handful of people not praising it?Compared to other threads this is nothing.We're barely even talking about trannies. Try a deltarune thread sometime.
>>743366348Same. More than anything.
>>743376457>What could happen in chapter 2 that you would dislike?Things being visually boring I guess, or the music being bland. I'm just in it for the atmosphere really, the "plot" is pretty much irrelevant to me. The idea of Ena waking up during transition surgery or something similar would be an eye roll inducer but I'm a deltarune enjoyer, I can tank that shit if the rest of the vibes are right.
>>743376875Do you just do it for the yous or what?There's plenty of games I don't like, thats fine, but why dedicate so much time to arguing about it in this dump?
>>743377278>I'm just in it for the atmosphere reallyI'm really into the theorycrafting side, and have come up with some myself. I used to share them but I'd just get too angry if I wasn't taken seriously enough.
>>743376875Every single thread turns into this argument about praising the game vs not praising the game. Obviously some people aren't going to like the thing I like but it's exhausting every time you try to discuss something some autist is there trying to gate keep casual conversation with "you need to acknowledge the praise vs criticism!"I don't care what you think about it if you don't like it. I enjoy it, I know why I enjoy it and want to discuss it, not argue that you should like it.Now then, I think ENAs best angle on surrealism is that while so many things make little sense, the world itself feels like it makes sense to itself the way a dream does. Playing it is like watching a dream while awake and I love that. Esoteric retina is neat, but it feels like its stepped past the veil and just is, so it doesn't give me the same feeling that ENA interactuons give me. It reminds me of those old flash videos of stuff people would take drugs to which I can see the appeal to, to be fair.
>>743377321I don't dislike ENA, and I'm not shitposting. I'm just telling you you're pretty weak if you think this is bad. I haven't even said anything bad about it, stop being so jumpy.>>743370521Even as a fan I gotta say this rings true.My guess is they connected with ENA personally and now are overdefensive because insulting ENA is insulting them. (in their minds)I love MGS2 but if someone calls it shit I don't take it as a personal insult and get all melty about it.
>>743377582Yeah, ENA fans seem insanely insecure
>>743377724It's just you sperging out though bro.You never miss an ENA thread. You can go to every ENA thread in the archive and find the exact same shitposts with the same phrases (even as a fan of ENA), the same autistic samefagging on turbo charge while accusing everybody else of samefagging, the same deflections of actually its ENA fans who are upset, actually the game is trans.The only one upset about the game is you. Cya in the next ENA thread I guess, because the jannies clearly have no will or power to stop you.The only hope to discuss this game here ever again is if you accidentally die, because every thread will have at least 1 person who hasn't read through all your bullshit before and keep feeding you replies thinking that they are actually talking with a human being and not a troll made out of liquid shit
>>743371958It actually works excellent in the format of videogames but you actually gotta create gameplay, goals and leveldesign instead of random animation watching hotspots on a flat plate.>Broken reality 2000 releasing next weekSo fucking hyped for it.
>>743378138Hadnt heard of this but I am looking forward to a little game where you play as a silver chat icon guy "anon". Ill see if I can go find the name. Im gonna look up that game as well
>>743378125He's just gonna hit you with some nonsense and continue his retard fit until the next release when normal posts drown him out. So on and so forth until the end of time.Remember you aren't allowed to discuss video games unless you're "criticizing it properly". You need to meet his standards of analysis (whatever the fuck those are)Its best to dismiss him as a gay retard and move on
>>743378125>sperging outWhere?>actually the game is transI never said anything like that. That's a retard take and blatant shitposting from people who would never play this game. And probably don't play anything else either.You have me mixed up with someone else. Or you assume every post you dislike is from one person.
>>743378419>Its best to dismiss him as a gay retard and move onEven though I completely agree with everything you say, and you completely agree with everything I said, and we'll continue to do that many times in future, I will NOT be taking this advice.
I wonder who we might see again
>>743372340>Walking sims don't have any bonesI'd disagree. Simple gameplay isn't objectively a bad thing. Exploring a game world is its own kind of thing and doesn't necessarily have to have complex mechanics. For people that like Joel's animation style, an explorable and interactable version of an ENA animation works fine. It doesn't need to be more than that.
>>743378668Meant for >>743371958
>>743378660I hope the CDI Wizard shows up again
Can you people stop arguing with the /agdg/ reject?
>>743378758We literally cannot even though we think it would be a great idea. And you're going to join us.
>>743378567> I will NOT be taking this advice.Well, I cant control you after all. Or else we'd be lost in eachothers mind.
>>743378668That's fair, it really is more of a walking sim than a game.
>>743376141>>743376332Remembering these posts fondly. Very funny in retrospect.
>>743378730Love him, but I half expect chapter 2 to have almost 0 connection to 1, possibly not even acknowledging it
When will they make a beach special for Ena
>>743378138The beauty of videogames is that they can work with minimal content if you present it properly. Like, for example, Crime Zone by thecatamites, is hardly a videogame, just a few scenes you can blindly wander through with no goal or purpose whatsoever, the scenes themselves is the content. The other day I found a small game called "tower defense" where you control a guy walking along the line of characters who hate towers and with a button press convince them that towers are acually cool. It was really fucking stupid all things considered, but I enjoyed it a lot, both simplicity and stupidity of it. Or another recent example, a game called "Hurry the sorry world" where you simply walk forward on a bridge that slowly disappears beneath you, through the black void with various objects scattered around, and it ends once you reach a house.The only thing I want from a videogame is a nice idea and a sense of completeness. I might not like the idea itself, but I can appreciate the thought that went into it.
>>743379193The weirder and more experimental a game is, the smarter I feel for knowing about it. A lot of my self worth is closely tied to my interest in esoteric indie games.
You know, I've seen some ENA fan stuff lately like an ENA comic, and while it was neat, I've noticed that people fail to make it feel like ENA by making it make too much sense. Like you can see that some things in ENA have a "logic" behind them, but there's always a disconnect before that logic reaches the viewer. The fanstuff fails by giving the logic a complete throughline
>>743379317Try Mongol then. Not sure if I could call it experimental, but weird it most certainly is. That shit was too much even for me.
>>743379317I can see how a mindset like that could easily lead to an over-defensiveness towards certain games, and insecurities
>>743378495Playing your hand too hard
>>743378730He was good, but in reintroducing him you need more context, because he is no longer contextlessWhile before he appeared "out of the void", and as of such was partially defined by the location and manner in which he appeared, now he comes from the prior cast, and will either appear in a similar manner incongrously, or will need to find a new cone of contextI think he might but it's like 40%Tatsuki maiden is probably back though
>>743379636Please take your meds. I haven't once said anything about the "game being trans"I'm also not an amateur game dev. I wonder what else I'm guilty of in that thick head of yours.
>>743379589Adding paranoia and a persecution complex to this.
>>743379841Taski Maiden is back for sure. Pretty sure every character in the hub has more lines too, like Dratula.I'm just hoping we get to ride the bus at some point
>>743380118Rude entities like you are punished for the sins of others
>>743368657>>743369246>>743370521WHAT the FUCK is this cornball even going on about lmaoYou sound like you wish you're smarter than you actually are. WHY do you take so much of an issue on whether or not "ENA" as an art project does in fact carries "artistic substance" according to your own personal evaluation? Did you REALLY expect us to gawk and awe at your useless little artistic opinion about what whether or not we're allowed to enjoy a FREE VIDEO GAME like it's some kind of an invaluable advice? Did you really think that your personal snowflake take on art is THAT worthy of parading around that you have to force us to suffer this world's lamest and whiniest art snob take on an anonymous basket-weaving forum?
>>743380647wow a brand new poster
>>743380647If those posts bothered you you're going to hate the guy in these threads who acts like the only person on 4chan who "gets" abstractionism (even though he can't spell it, lmao)
>>743380647His spergouts are very well documented for almost 2 years now at least, but every thread somebody doesn't know about him yet and it starts this shitspiral again.Dunno why he is so attracted to ENA threads though. I don't think he actually cares about the game at all. He just likes the yous and destroying the threads
>>743371345>you'll find midwits that are full of passion but have little understandingOh yeah SERIOUS FUCKING BUSINESS on this fuckass internet at all times, 24/7My little animation game can't have a little bit whimsy or humor for the sake of it, oh gotta be political too. Real adult art enjoyers are supposed to be unfun and miserable just like me ACTUALLY?!
>>743381191I keep telling others to just ignore him, but even though we all agree we should, we're very bad at it. We talk about him a lot more than about ENA, even though we don't want to. Then new people show up and say things we 100% agree with, every single word, and we agree every time.
>>743380647I started looking into movie reviews lately. Not to find out to watch but just out of curiosity. Ive come to notice that critics are some of the most up their own ass people thatbare out of touch with what people enjoy seeing in a movie, and those kinds must surely exist in all mediums. A deranged desire to pursue "something higher" and always always always center their thoughts and discussions around "the critique" lest someone catch them enjoying something by its own merits.A loathsome people to be sure
>>743381309The post you are replying to didn't say anything like this. Are you sane?
>>743381436You know what's crazy? I completely agree with everything you just said. In fact I have a hard time imagining us ever disagreeing on anything.
>>743381375>We talk about him a lot more than about ENA, even though we don't want toWell then reply to my on topic posts you fuck. Pretty please.
>>743381436>I watched movie critics to critique them, and found them all lacking and not up to my standardsHow ironic. And pretty sad.>critics never enjoy ANYTHINGlmao?
>>743371958>HylicsAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAAAAAOh my god, is this what this smear campaign is all about? Is Hylics creator here with us, or something, secretly steaming and squealing that some other artists DARED to try their hands at his own little niche??
>>743381648I think this is what's happening
>>743381648>smear campaignis anyone even calling the game bad?
I remember once, eons ago I was on a small forum ran by an unknown likely underage admin, and among the anons and that one fed that showed up, there was a guy who made a bot to constantly ping the website to keep this shitty thread at the top of the leaderboardIt was annoying, and people ragged on him for it, but overall it didn't actually do anything so people kept on in other threadsThen, one day, after the site had crashed and came back up, he posted some link to the service that he used to run the bot, and in doing so, posted his ip address liveI think I might have been the only one to see it, given that it was a small site, and all I actually noticed at the time was that it read out a location in australia, not the specific ipAfter this, he quickly panicked, said his goodbyes and left, but one of the distinct things I remember before he left is asking why he did itHe didn't have an answerHe had dedicated a large amount of time and effort to a project that could have no possible use for anyone, He didn't apparently feel any particular hatred, or malice, he just did something annoying and then kept doing itI think it was because he was retarded, but then even he had the basic sense to stop when his Ip was leaked (Well, the admin had his ip the entire time but he was retarded you must remember). There are some schizo's on /v/ who have continued well past this and every other line. They will have their names and faces and identities revealed and they will still dedicate a signifigant portion of their lives to posting badlyIt doesn't feel as much their choice as it is a consequence of the wider internet being exposed to weaker minds. Like the rats in a stirner box or the gamblers in a casino they are entirely infatuated with the machineAnd being humans, they can rationalise why they continue to do these things that don't benefit themselves or othersThanks for reading my diary and all, I just find it really interesting how these types of people crop up
>>743381889I think when someone discovers an insecure schizo who is a guaranteed bite every time, and will bite and samefag and seethe for literal hours, it can be very tempting to become a bully who simply rattles the cage to watch the chimp freak out. I think it becomes double funny when the chimp spends 99% of the time stating over and over in as many ways as it can "I am not mad"
>>743382093That's true. And if the chimp already has a long list of enemies it repeatedly accuses you of being, you know:>you'll never face consequences because someone else is getting the blame>they will NEVER believe it's NOT one of their enemies (because they are "too smart" to fall for any "lies"*) *any information that counters their assumptions is immediately ignored>the fact that they have all these enemies in mind tells you they literally spend all their time online getting into these spats, and they will never see this as a personal problem - it will ALWAYS be because of (((them)))
>>743382093>Spend all day reveling in the power over someone I don't know, don't care about, and don't have power overThat's the exact sort of thing I meanIt's not an intended behavior of the human condition, it's a wiring fault some people have or get
>>743382556I dunno, I think it's pretty common. Look at how many completely different people always show up in these threads to come to really similar conclusions about a poster they know nothing about. Most of it groundless, but all of them clearly more interested in revelling in the power over someone they don't know, don't care about, and don't have power over than in discussing ENA Dream BBQ. I wonder where all these people are the rest of the time. Usually ENA threads die pretty quick after two people jerk off to Taski for 15 minutes.
>>743381648Good grief, you ENAtroons are fucking deranged. The last Hylics game came out six years ago. It is only natural to compare it and Dream BBQ because of their similarly absurdist asthetics.
>>743381816Please understand, you're dealing with a persecution complex and insecurity you've never seen the likes of before.
In more ENA related news:According to joel's patreon, old doors will be revisitable and will have a few new things in themPersonally I think that's a very inefficient use of development hours, but to each his own
>>743361729>trooncoded game >dies
I remember once a few years ago I was in an ENA thread and I talked about a bunch of things I liked about it, but I had one small criticism.Then a guy, who I can see from this thread is still active, accused me of being some nemesis of his. That all the positive things I said was just untrue and I only said them because I wanted to say the negative part. My ulterior motive, with this post that was 90% praise, was to say the 10% that was criticism. So in other words it was 100% negative, in his mind.When I explained I wasn't his nemesis and none of this was true, he doubled down. I praised the game even more. But that was all brushed aside. More lies. I don't know how you're supposed to reason with someone like this. I suppose it's the same mentality that leads people to conspiracy theories they refuse to let go of.Anyway, I can definitely see why someone would enjoy tormenting someone that obnoxious, and clearly powerless to stop themselves schizoposting at the sight of anything they disagree with.
>>743383589Still going huh.
>>743383648It's Kafkaesque
>>743383648>>743383589
>>743383731kek
>>743381889You can be sure those types of people will only get more prevalent as the time goes. Another happy reminder that I should spend less time on the internet, and you too.
>>743383589>I let some rando live rent-free in my head for yearsskill issue
Joel g's patreon, on the 16th:Title: ENA: Dating Oblivion Concept Art 2 (Patreon) Hello everyone!This time I wanted to share a little more concept art from Dating Oblivion. This project has turned out to be more ambitious than I originally expected, but I'm very happy it ended up taking that direction.What I've shown so far is only a very small glimpse of it. Dating Oblivion has a lot more to reveal than what's been shown in these previews, and there are still many things I'm excited to share when the time is right.That said, I would prefer for the next trailer released for this project to be much closer to its actual launch, so pleeease be patient—it will be worth the wait!As for Dream BBQ, it continues to receive absolute priority. We've been spending a lot of time refining and polishing what has already been made, and I feel that the improvements we've made are significantly enhancing the Chapter 2 experience. I'm very happy with how it's turning out.If life allows it, we're hoping to announce a release date sometime this year! I'll do my very best.Thank you all for your incredible support on Patreon every month.
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>>743384341meant for >>743381889 sorry
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>>743384350>We've been spending a lot of time refining and polishing what has already been madeThis is something I like to hear. Polish is under rated these days. I don't mind being patient for polish
>>743381191>I let some rando live rent-free in my head for yearsbleak>>743384350he's juggling projects? I can understand chapter 2 taking this long. I was hoping for a release this year but if they are only announcing the release date this year it's safe to say it'll be 2027 before we're playing it.
>>743384585I think it's one of those creative things where he was held back by his team in places and so he started doing another thing as a hobbyIt is kind of strange that his off hours is more ENA stuff, but that's his weight to carry
>>743384763He knows the ENA audience will like it no matter what, so it makes sense.
Heres some actual discussion: what the fuck happened with VLIF? I read somewhere that he disappeared because of allegations or some shit
>>743385050Who?
>>743385107Ena musician who also made weird cgi animations
I do appreciate fifty completely different anons arriving in these threads to say things I agree with, take my side, and back me up completely, don't get me wrong... but I do wonder why you only post in ENA threads when I'm arguing with my nemesis and never during normal ENA threads, which always die quickly. Where are you guys then?
>>743385351What a strange post. Are you ok anon.
>>743385535He's making fun of me. Ignore him.
*checks watch*Almost time to pull out the "I left hours ago, this guy's still going!?" material
>>743385719Golly anon, you really are obsessed over this.
>>743384864Art is about taking your biggest commercial hit and sticking with it
>>743379064Is that what i think it is?
>>743385351sucks that they all just leave again right after too
i miss her bwos
>>743361729I want to bang many of the female from this series.
>>743386232Its her arm
>>743384486I wonder if they'll actually use her in Dating Oblivion or if it's just concept art. ENA in general doesn't do many recurring characters.
