YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO HAVE THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPERS OF THE SERIES MAKE A NEW FALLOUT IN 2 YEARSYOU NEED TO WAIT 10 YEARS FOR ME TO MAKE A WORSE ONE INSTEAD
>>743362369how come todd doesn't make more games more quickly anywayyou'd think he would feel more ashamed about not being able to get any games out for decades
>>743362450>how come todd doesn't make more games more quickly anywaysomething something outsourcing coding to some shitty third world country
>>743362450he obviously stopped caring after skyrim
>>743362450If I had to guess, Bethesda Studios just became a social club more than a game developer over the years. I think the enormous success of Skyrim accelerated this. The management probably just started viewing their devs as their “friends” and didn’t want to hire anyone even if they were barely working. Quickest way to kill productivity in a company is to create a laidback “chill” environment where there’s no incentive to work. You gotta crack the whip if you want to get shit done.
>>743362450They realized they have golems that will buy anything they shit out so there's no point in making new shit. Just release skyrim with a new coat of paint and don't fix anything. That would require investment and modders will slave away for free too lmao
>>743362450because that would cannibalize fo76 and eso
How the fuck does World of Warcraft shit out a new expansion pack every 2 years with massive patches every 6-9 months while it takes Bethesda 10 years to release pure slop.
>>743363857do those really earn enough money to make it worth it to never make new gamesI feel like new games would earn a lot of fucking money
>>743364170Yes. The creation stores are the other big reason they decided not to release anything, people will pay for shit mods.
>>743362369>ORIGINAL DEVELOPERS
>>743362369I unironically when Asha to ride out Todd onto the stage at their next public press event. Saddle and all. I want him mic'd up as well. But if he tries to speak, Asha will whip him on his pert tennis butt.
>>743362450Bethesda takes 4-5 years to make their games and they took 4-5 years each to release the 3 games they released since skyrim. They're just a small dev who never expanded or grown to have multiple different teams working on multiple games at once.
>>743362450>how come todd doesn't make more games more quickly anywayYou can't rush genius.
Fallout is Organization Todd’s franchise now, Obsidian doesn’t deserve to touch it unless Todd himself wants for that to happen.
this new obsidian fallout is going to come out giga shit and you retards are gonna go nuclear
>>743364702I mean microsoft haven't produced a decent game in over two decades now. Of course the new obsidian fallout is gonna be shit, microsoft is pure poison
>>743364782Starfield was absolute kino
>>743364170No idea of ESO but in 76 hey have been re-releasing same 3000 or so items but just tinted differently for past 5 or so years and people slop it right up
>>743364865that's fucked up
>>743364865ESO is insanely profitable too
>>743364865Also in 76 basically everyone seems to have FO1st subscription (15 eurodollars/month) because they all keep running to and interacting with the paid bottomless storage containers you need said sub for to use.
>>743365053peoples camps are also always full of atom shop items or entirely made of ones.
This thread will be sold on xitter
>>743362450there's anti-incentives for salaried employees that will get fired after the game goes gold to ever actually finish.
>>743365708I guess all those post-project layoffs that companies were doing came back to bite them since the employees just follow their incentives as a result to never finish the project in the first place
>>743362369Oh boy, I can't wait for Fallout Outer Worlds! Seriously, what the fuck are people smoking to suddenly think Obsidian can make a good game again just because they're using a Fallout skin?
>>743366030I mean Bethesda weren't going to make a good game either, so this doesn't really change anything
>>743366081Starfield is wildly praised and loved and there's more people playing it than all of obsidian's releases combined.
>>743366081Whatever they made would've certainly been more enjoyable than whatever UE5 blandware Obsidian will make
>>743366150bro how did you make it to our universe from the one where starfield wasn't shit?
>>743366150Yeah sure that's why they just got told to cut it off
>>743366030>>743366158Naysaying faggot
>>743366253They're still working on year 3 of Starfield's DLC with many more years to come.
>>743366158I honestly think they'd both be unplayable trash
>>743364479yes. Tim Cain will be working on this
>>743366150>Starfield is wildly praised and lovedlol
>>743366275>What is pattern recognitionLet's see your Outer Worlds 1/2 and Avowed playtime friendo.>>743366308Bethesda's trash would be somewhat salvageable, Obsidian's would be useless junk.
>>743366292>>743366150b8
>>743366463F76 and 4 is worse than anything Obsidian has ever made. Fuck off jeet
>>743366497>>743366458Hating popular games like starfield isnt a personality.
>>743362369At this point, I'm tired of Fallout.
>>743366463Avowed was better than Fallout 4. You can cope and seethe but an obsidian Fallout might be 7/10A bethesda Fallout will be a 3/10
>>743366407Tim Cain? That means it will literally be faggot coded.
>>743366621Wow I guess I should hate Fallout 1 then. Amazing argument jeet
>>743366621>The creator of one of the best games of all time is gay so I can't like his gamesWhat /pol/ does to a mf
>>743364170you have no idea
>>743362369>15 years since Skyrim's original release date (and 8 years since the TES VI teaser trailer to suck more money out of microsoft for a buyout)>11 years since Fallout 4's release date>8 years since Fallout 76's launch disaster>3 years since Starfield's fart in the wind >2 years since Indiana Jones's dry turkey sandwich from a monkey's paw>1 year since Oblivion remaster that Bethesda outsourced.What the fuck are they doing over there?Each game is progressively worse than the last in every single way, and they take longer to get here each and every time.
>>743366516Never touched F76, but Fallout 4 is a fun open-world shooter. Again, let's see those Outer Worlds and Avowed playtime friend.
>>743366880Yes if you are Indian I could see why you would like it
>>743366880>RPG mechanics worse than an actual RPG>Shooter mechanics worse than an actual shooterWhat's the point of its existence?
>>743366914You guys literally say this about every game now.
>>743362450They have like a 10+ steps of mangers to go through for a single worker to just voice a simple idea.
>>743366880>Fallout 4 is a funStopped reading there. I don't speak Hindi
>>743366860Why are you listing Indiana Jones, that's Machinegames aka the Wolfenstein dudes
>>743366880Fallout 4 is utter dogshit, an utter slop is a game with no content and completely boring and a shit story. Starfield is a masterpiece because it has a competently written story, well written quests, actual towns to visit and better gunplay and loot system that actually makes playing it long term fun.
>>743366967Calling bethesda jeets indian has been a thing for years.
>>743366914Nice cope, but you still won't post your playtime for any of Obsidian's modern games. Why?>>743366942Open-world FPS, not to many of those that are also extremely moddable.
>>743366987Bethesda published.It ain't much, but they did ... something.
>>743362450Covid and then Phil forcing them to work more on shartfield fucked up their schedule
>>743366732Creator of the first 80 dollar game is about to make another rpg after the last 3 he made sucked. I sincerely hope you enjoy the next rpg where you play a broccoli coral face.
>>743367070>Mods will fix itSo you admit the game is shit.
>>743367201Fallout and VTMB are the greatest RPGs of all time. Don't care how much this makes you seethe.
>>743367151You do realise that Bethesda Softworks and Bethesda Game Studios are different companies, right?
>>743367070>But modslol
>>743367263Oh man i hope a man doesnt change a lot in the previous 20 and 30 years since those games came out. Sorry im judging him based on the last 5 years.
>>743367290It's actually retarded how /v/ keeps mistaking the different bethesda devs.
>>743367223Nope. People wouldn't mod it if the base game wasn't fun. Look at Starfield, a bunch of shitty planets instead of one large world to explore killed the game and made it unfun, and it's mod scene reflects that. People only mod games when the vanilla version is fun.
>>743367394Most of the board are retards that get their info from e-celebs, and Zenimax knew this. Which is why they rebranded Battlecry Studios to Bethesda (((((Austin))))) when they were making F76.
>>743367431The base game is shit
>>743362450You bought Skyrim like 8 times.
Even Obsidians worst game is better than the last 3 Bethesda games.
>>743367593You can always tell the guys that stopped playing games in the 2010s
>>743367550Nope, otherwise people wouldn't bother modding this. You cannot refute this and will simply yell at the sun all day it seems.
We assume Todd is seething because is fun to image, but I wonder if he really cares.
>>743367813his stance is that only his studio is worthy making their internal IP
>>743367734Hey man. Fallout 4 is a shit game. I'm sorry you were born Indian
>>743367813He fought to have the game NOT be made so Obsidian so yes he is seething
>>743367938Obviously not since New Vegas and the Amazon show exist.
>>743367734>My shit game isn't shit because it has mods
>>7433649312 billion isn't as much as you think for a live service game. It's been around for 12 years now and its best days are likely long behind it.
>>743362369I don't understand this meme.Did Todd openly say it angers him that Microsoft is making him do his job?
>>743368015>Obviously notYou missed out. It's literally been confirmed that Obsidian was working on a Fallout game in 2024 but Todd stopped it when he found out. Yes HE IS SEETHING
>>743368049See >>743368071They gave it to Obsidian which he fought against
>>743367431If only Todd had forced a Design Document on Emil
>>743367290Yes. That's why I didn't add ESO into the list. It's a Zenimax title. Even if they just copy and pasted the monetization from ESO to F76. I'm sorry I snagged you autism with my post.
>>743367972>>743368034Remember to wear sunglasses fellas.
>>743367431The Star Wars total conversion mod is going to make Starfield finally playable.
>>743362450dysfunctional company owned by the biggest turbo jews in the entire gaming landscapelook it up
>>743368008Still no credible source on this
>>743368148ESO was also published by Bethesda Softworks retard. It's obvious you're a retard who saw "Bethesda" and automatically assumed it was the game developer.
>>743368293Chris Avellone is a pretty fucking good source
>>743368039>2 billion isn't as much as you think for a live service game.
>>743368071The story of that build is fascinating. It’s clear someone kept it on file and was still tinkering with it after it was turned down. Someone at obsidian knew the leadership tide was about to shift and sat on a nuke for years until they could give it to Asha with a bow on it.
>>743368214Who the fuck gives a shit about Star Wars anymore? Didn't Destiny 2 have a star wars collab last year that basically killed the game?
>>743368348>>Chris AvelloneHe never mentioned Todd
>>743368008He never did you fucking retard, Avellone and Obsidian pitched a possibility of making another Fallout game that didn't fit in either studios dev time or release window. That shit was said in 2010, Obsidian was still working on Alpha Protocol and South Park, BGS was finishing up Skyrim and Fallout 4 was in pre-production. Take everything that Avellone says with a grain of salt. The dude is bitter after getting nothing out of Fallout and having to watch it turn into a multi-media, multi-billion dollar franchise.
>>743368516He said Bethesda game studios which Todd is in control of. Stop being stupid
>>743368346Your autism is showing. You're doing it again.It's okay to be wrong. If a bethesda company didn't publish the games, they would not exist.So they had to have done something.It's okay to be wrong.
>>743362450Why make new games when Skyrim keeps selling like hot cakes everytime they re-release it?
>>743367431?Starfield's mod community is crazy amazing though. They already added whole new cities, new questlines and multiplayer coop. Which is insanely impressive.
>>743368417Yeah, I know, things really are that bad. It's why studios will blow obscene sums of money and dev time on rolling the dice until they finally hit it big on a live service that works.
>>743368071>>743368092>>743368421>It's literally been confirmed that Obsidian was working on a Fallout game in 2024That never happened you tranny.
>>743368594See >>743368348I trust Chris Avellone over you seething
>>743368437No the push to get Marathon out the door killed Destiny
>>743368671>That never happened bloody benchod tranny!
>>743368671Chris Avellone said it did. He obviously knows what he is talking about retard
>>743368671>>743368594t.
>>743368618>Bethesda game studios which Todd is in control of.Todd is Game Director of BGS Maryland you retard, 76 is handled by Jonathon Rush in BGS Austin
>>743368618Wow I didnt know being a producer outranks studio directors now.
>>743368618Todd isn't even the studio director, let alone the CEO of Bethesda. How are you this stupid?
>>743368671It was described as a “fallout adjacent” title, not a licensed fallout game, but there was something in the works and now it’s the new Fallout game with incredibly convenient timing.
>>743368626Are you genuinely retarded? The publisher and the developer have nothing to do with each other.
>>743368715>>743368746Avellone hasn't worked at Obsidian since 2015. You faggots will believe what twitter screenshot you see and seethe when common sense is brought in>>743368857>It was described as a “fallout adjacent” title,Wtf does that even mean? Is it just another way of saying the Outer Worlds >and now it’s the new Fallout game with incredibly convenient timing.No it's not
>>743368626Developer and Publisher are too different things you brainlet. I bet you think Electronic Arts the Publisher and EA Readwood Shores, the developers of Dead Space are the same
>>743368594>Todd Howard was incredibly supportive of Obsidian and was the reason why Fallout New Vegas was made>the other owners of Bethesda hated Obsidian and did not want them to touch Fallout>People blame Todd Howard anyways when it's not even his fault Poor Todd.
>>743368936>NOOOOOO HE IS JUST LYINGLol he obviously still knows people who work in Obsidian. Your cope is next level Todd
>>743369001B-But the names are similar...
>>743368936NTA but he pitched a fallout game and got rejected by Todd so he basically started working on a fallout game in everything but name instead.
>>743368789>>743368825>>743368787Stop seething Todd. You lost
Todd has a Napoleon complex
>>743369028>the other owners of Bethesda hated Obsidian and did not want them to touch FalloutThat's not how it works, for whatever reason Zenimax went with Interplay to make a Fallout Online title
>>743366150Saarfield is pure trash and you're a fucking retard.
>>743367263VTMB is one of the most overrated games on /v/
>>743369053He didn't pitch a Fallout game. He pitched the idea that they have some sort of working relationship like Infinity Ward and Treyarch did with Call of Duty. The problem was that the timelines didn't line up any of the studios current projects.see>>743368594
>>743369257Your mothers cunt isn't overrated just because half the block uses it.
Where did all these diehard Obsidian fanboys come from anyway? You fuckers weren't around to defend Avowed or Outer Worlds 2 when there were constant threads shitting on them.
>>743369257Low IQ post
>>743369346Those games were mediocre. No one is saying they weren't. They just aren't as bad as Bethesda's last 3 games
>>743369314>Heh, I gottem! VTMB is still one of the most overrated games on /v/ >>743369386Literal cattle who just accepts consensus
>>743369346Trannies only come here for raids
Toddler
>>743367431truke
>>743369346They have zero knowledge of the business side or the technical side of game development. For them games are made from magic. You'd think people who loved New Vegas this much would download the free mod kits bethesda puts out and make their own content.
>>743369202One of the conditions of buying Fallout from Interplay was letting them make a Fallout MMO with Fallout Online. Which did not materialize because the company had no devs and was run by a scamming CEO.
>>743369410So why're you running defence for a developer whose latest titles were all mediocre?
>>743369224You guys say this about every popular good game on /v/.
>>743369417It's an amazing game due to both it's writing and amazing quest structure which has ever quest be unique. But you are a Bethesda drone so prefer literally AI generated "radiant quests"
>>743369490This goes for the majority of gamers. Gamers are insanely attached to studio names even if all the people who originally made it great are already gone.
>>743369490What a retarded post
>>743362369>IN 2 YEARSAwfully optimistic of youMake it 6
>>743369562No. I'm saying mediocre is better than horrible. Piss is better than shit.
>she does the eww faceThe exact moment that sealed Todd cucks rate.
>>743369490>>743369603>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW GAMES ARE MADE BEFORE YOU CAN CALL A GAME SHITBethesda games are shit
>>743369591Overrated doesn't mean bad, but the game is way, way too flawed and has some genuinely shit sections that lower it significantly.
>>743369490What happened to Fallout 4 New Vegas anyway?
>>743369410Outworlds has less mechanics than Fallout 4. Quit aggrandizing dogshit over bull crap
>>743369665Boring games are bad games. Im sorry i have to tell you this.
>>743364167Bethesda is adult daycare for Todd's cult of personality
>>743369732Development is slow due to all these people being volunteers. Combined with some internal drama and with the F4CW guys showing them up
>>743369770And shit games are shit games.
>>743369713It isn't over rated. it is correctly rated. The game is utterly amazing in some aspects (Quest design, writing, characters, role playing ability) that it more than makes up the bad parts.
>>743362369Stop pretending like you ever heard of shitout before 3 or played any of Obsidian's dogshit since NV.
>>743369840You're mistaking "atmosphere" and "flavor" with "great writing". Great writing would be something like Planescape, not VTMB.
>>743362369I bet he wept.That fucking meltdown must have been a sight to behold, one can only imagine
>>743369887VTMB has great writing. Just because it is funny doesn't make it not great
The issues with Outer Worlds and Avowed came down to poor design decisions that could be mitigated by putting better people in charge, like Sawyer or CainMeanwhile, Fallout 4 and Starfield were hunks of shit made by some of the most incompetent people out there, and there's no fixing that at this point
>>743369668I love my millennial curry saffron pussy so much is unreal, I'm not even fucking kidding.
>>743369940Starfield is overhated when they fixed everything about it with the recent patches.
>>743370043You can fix a fundamentally shitty and boring gamethey can't fix the shitty aesthetic, characters and story
>>743370043Starfield has some interesting quests that were made by for harbor's writer, but left bethesda awhile ago
>>743370043They rewrote the whole game?
>>743370126So Avowed and Outerworlds are equally shit then
>>743369940A lot of the ambition with the Outer Worlds was probably due to UE5 not having the ability to split up cells.
>>743362636>Bethesda Studios just became a social club more than a game developer over the yearsgenuinely>be emil>roll into work>hit the gym>get lunch in the cafeteria>toss ball around with the bros in the rec room>yo what if we made like a dungeon and filled it with like enemies lol that would be sick>sit down>turn on computer>scroll through reddit>write down note telling sound engineers that sword effect needs more 'whoosh'>work on story for 15 minutes without even really thinking about the wider implications of the retardation that is being put to paper>attend meeting where todd is visibly trying not to cry because his design for a space game has been slashed down to a bland nothing because of focus group testing and feedback from the new generation of devs working there that grew up only knowing skyrim and wacky nufallout>start packing up to leave>out of the corner of your eye see an older guy who has been working there since the 80s wistfully gazing at the decorations in his cubicle, at pictures of old times with people that no longer work there, remembering doing work on things that got printed out on dot matrix printers, shedding a single tearworking at bethesda must be amazing
>>743370043The game reeks of Emil's Reddit boy writing. There's no fixing that turd.
>>743369789>F4CW guysWho?
Has Avellone said anything about this game yet? Everyone's wondering if he's gonna get on board. Should do it for his legacy if nothing else.
>>743369562I think they just want more games. Bethesda isnt giving them games. Obsidian might have a history of mediocrity but at least there will be games.
>>743370205No they are decent but they made by competent redditors while SF is made by incompetent out of touch retard boomers
>>743370235Fallout 4 Capital Wasteland team, the released a Point Lookout mod and Project Mojave
>>743369940Tim Cain was the game director of the Outer Worlds you retard, what kind of retarded cope is this?
>>743362369My niggas who worked on fallout 1&2 over at Inxile better get a crack at fallout too after they ship clockwork. Pass fallout around the xbox rpg studios like it's a slut!
>>743370302I don't think any Bethesda game had you play match maker for a non-binary dyke
>>743370126Agreed, this is why obsidian games will never be good
>>743370325Oh, I thought that shit got hit with a C&D because they ripped voice audio straight from F3 and included it in the mod?
>>743370407>Pass fallout around the xbox rpg studios like it's a slut!its more like rescuing it from an abuser
>>743370407>ClockworkIt looks like Outer Worlds 1.5
>>743370442Nope the project stopped because the two lead devs got hired by Bethesda. That's where the drama between them and F4NV came from.
>>743370210What a retarded fuckin engine I have seen Games in native threejs have cell system
>>743370557It's not the engine itself, it's the engineers and Epic game, they probably don't see cell splitting as a priority and don't invest in it
>Use the same duct taped boomer engine Gamebryo for decades because Boomerthesda legitimately too lazy to learn a new one
>>743370502I thought it was the Fallout London dude that got hired by Bethesda? Seems like modding is the best way to get hired by Bethesda
>>743370229How did Emil go from making cool Thief maps to shitty writing?
>>743370337He was a co director who helped early on but was sidelined after a while
>>743370481Yeah gonna have to wait and see but the guys in charge are straight and have good taste unlike that fag tim cain who was in charge of outer worlds 1&2. Hoping for the best!
>>743370647
>>743370625Makes sense They probably either want big open worlds or friend slopDon't care for depth as much
>>743370658It really goes to show you that story in games is for faggots
>>743370658>Be good at one part of game design>Think you're invincible in every other important area because you're the husband of Todd HowardEmil's hubris played him hard
>>743370647that buggy boomer engine is the primary selling point of their games, scrapping it would be suicide
>>743370661Yet he had no problem using his name in the game's reveal trailer. Stop the cope. None of these old fags whose claim to fame is shit they made 30 years ago have ever managed to come back and make a good game
>>743370685>who was in charge of outer worlds 1&2.Outer worlds would've had cool gritty characters if tim was actually incharge
>>743370658>>743370770Emil-kakka was the best writer in Bethesda, so it’s natural that he got promoted as the lead.
>>743370746I think it's more for mass appeal, there a thousands of fps shooters on Unreal and CoD clones. There are zero Skyrim clones.
>>743370656Get hired by Bethesda and never work a day in your life.
>>743370797>But you le worked on it you were supposed to control everything Is retarded specially in the case of tim cain who talked about it intensively
>>743370847Only real Skyrim clone is kcd and it took them 14 years to make 2 games(Hopefully next games will come sooner)Even then they don't have same physics, magic system and object permanence Because having NPCs with schadule is a massive pain in the assSo much so even beth abandoned it for SFHopefully they'll bring it back in TE6
>>743370821He was at the tippy top of the food chain he could have put gritty characters in the game but he didn't.
>>743370214>write down noteNaw bruh, that would be documentation and good ol Emi would never dirty his hands with such filth
>>743371051That doesn't count. But Todd is the CEO and owner of Bethesda, Microsoft, and Amazon. Oh wait. Not Microsoft anymore but he decides everything
>>743370912>The issues with Outer Worlds and Avowed came down to poor design decisions that could be mitigated by putting better people in charge, like Sawyer or CainHe was in charge, none of the poor design decisions were mitigated. Isn't Tim also the retard who said RPG stats were bad and proposed some shitty triangle system?
>>743370829More like they were running on scraps after Morrowind and he was the plushie they machine craned out of the remaining pile
>>743362450Because then Creation Club and Fallout 76 wont make money lol. He digged hes own grave.
>>743371235Funny because Morrowind was the success that saved the company and Emil was one of the new hires they got in preparation for Oblivion.
>>743370912So which is it? You keep flipflopping between>Tim wasnt in charge thats why they were badand>Tim was in charge he just had the same shit team he will have for this game but this time it will be differentNothing but cope
>>743371265>Because then Creation Club and Fallout 76 wont make money
>>743371051>>743371159>>743371209Again you don't understand roles and amount of control people have not everyone is Todd Howard who gets to sit on top and look at every decision
>>743371041>Because having NPCs with schedule is a massive pain in the assHow the fuck can that be true if Gothic managed to pull it off 2 fucking decades ago?
>>743362369Todd needs to get fired. He's delaying doing his actual job which was TES6 or Fallout 5
>>743371362og devs of oblivion left to made amalur which had way better writing and quests than skyrim
>>743371434If thats the case then why would we assume The Outer Worlds: Newer Vegas would be good?
>>743371432If they make so much money where's Fallout 5 and New Vegas 2? No wonder Microsoft is pissed off.
>>743371414Hope is that with Asha in charge obsidian won't default to reddit retardation and actually listen to old dogs like Tim and Sawyer whatever they'll make will be better than everything Bethesda has made in last 13 years
>>743371432I don’t want a series after whales have touched it. Nothing gets better after being covered in whale semen.
>>743371512Fired from what, his posistion as a director of a TV show? Todd isnt even involved with the game side really, just a marketing face (You) keep falling for
>>743371434>reddit spacing
>>743362369>THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPERSOh yes, I'm sure there's a lot of those left at the studio
Sawyer is in no way one of the oldheads on Fallout.Tim Cain is ONE of the original developers and someone who thinks Outer Worlds is his magnum opus at that.
>>743371434He sounds spineless like pussy. If I'm in charge of a game and I want gritty characters then I'm going to brute force gritty characters into my game. He has the rpg clout to do those decisions
>>743371645best fallouts which are 2 and new vegas were made without his participation so it makes sense
>>743367201You act like he singlehandedly made those games and totally not the 10-30+ other extremely talented people who have long since left
>>743362369>THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPERS OF THE SERIESBuddy interplay is long dead
>>743371645There's three main fallout guys which is him, Leonard, and Jason anderson right?
>>743371543>Hope is that with Asha in chargeYeah hiring a bunch of Indians to work on this will surely end well.Why are you such a massive corpo bootlicker? It's Microsoft and she is a woman, it will be shit.How desperate do you have to be to beg for shit when you could just have nothing instead? Bethesda might make trash but so does Obsidian, neither are good. Why do you want to eat micoslop so bad?
>>743362450Make SMALL GAMES? Like an...INDIE? we are a BIG HUGE AAA STUDIO, we ONLY produce HUGE games that all try to be the BIGGEST THING EVER
>>743371645Tim Cain is already a red flag, because he shamelessly sucked off the TV show and he was responsible for how shit Outer Worlds was. Who they actually need is George Zeits (guy responsible for Mask of the Betrayer), but he's already busy with his own game company.
>>743371837Inxile is still around, I'm not sure how many people from interplay are still there but there's at least 3 of them.
>>743371717Well, you're not an old boomer working under new management, for whom a literal old homosexual talking about game design too loud is somehow too problematic
>>743371528>If they make so much money where's Fallout 5 and New Vegas 2They aren't going to stifle their cash cow
>>743371896 Obsidain made bunch of good games in last 10 years like Penitment, grounded and POE, same cannot be said about bethesda
>>743372005I do remember tim talking about him and Leonard yelling at each other about ow1 decisions and it scared the people in the office. These niggas at obsidian are too soft lmao
>>743372152Not a single one of those was enough to keep Obsidian afloat
>>743372152>Penitment>grounded>goodSure buddy, sure, enjoy your newer vegas two, now with trans identity politics in the post apocalyps, surely it will be good.
>>743372246Grounded did very well, it's even getting its own TV show on netflix
>>743370758Which is ironic since Thief's story is actually good.
>>743372246Not my fucking problemThe fact of the matter is that even with a dud like OWObsidian has a pretty good track record, and I'll trust them with a Fallout game more than anyone else(Maybe inxile, if Clockwork is good)
>>743371645they had zero budget back then let fucknig cook Fallout 5 with Xbox budget. Lets see what it is. Def gonna be better than Starfiel, F74 or F4
>>743362450apparently Bethesda had 14 layers of management to go through to get anything done, and they don't use anything like design documents that allow people to know what tthe fuck is going on
>>743372328>mfw the show has arachnophobia settings turned on
>>743372326You haven't played either of those gamesHang yourself culture war retard
>>743372474>Fallout 5It's going to be 3 and NV remakes>>743372512>apparently Bethesda had 14 layers of managementIt wasn't Bethesda you sperg, it was Microsoft
>>743372451Literally just give inxile a budget of like 50-100 mil to go make a crpg fallout that's basically wasteland 4 and watch th money come in real fast.
>>743366695Not that i'm agreeing with the quoted but Cain actually has a video seething about the people at old Interplay saying they were all homophobes particularly the "young white men".
>>743362636>and didn’t want to hire anyoneI assume you mean fire because bethesda's workforce has like quadrupled since skyrim
>>743372551i dont fucking care what Fallout it is let them cook it. Still better than cooking than what Todd can cook.
>>743372451>with a dud like OWAnd OW 2, and Avowed, you know, the games that are most similar to Fallout? How much are you paid to shill this shit here anyway?
>>743372326I believe you played them both and formed your own opinion on them>>743372536This retard however only watched his favorite eceleb video essay which is why he's dickriding obslopian ITT
>>743372576>crpg fallout that's basically wasteland 4 and watch th money come in real fast.Not gonna happen fallout kiddies love to collect junk and mod in bimbos they won't care for a CRPG fallout
>>743362636>and didn’t want to hire anyone>acquires four more studios ok
>>743372629>You Disagree with me?? you must be a paid shill!!Avowed is a fun action game
>>743372648I have actually played those games,You faggot nigger retard
>>743372715Bg3 sold 20 million copies and the fallout audience is pretty massive. I'm sure they would sell enough copies to make a profit
>>743372767This is good news for a new fallout because? Honesty Fallout 4 should appeal to you considering none of the things Obsidian made that you claim are good are RPGs
>>743372876I knew you were going to say thatbut I don't feel like the DnD audience that loves wacky romance would be fans of a drier post apocalyptic CRPG. I mean, it could definitely work as a lower budget side project
>>743372885Have you played Pentiment, Grounded, POE or Tyranny?
>>743362369It's over Todd!You don't have the high ground anymore.
>>743373070NTA but wasteland 3 is anything but dry, honestly if the new Fallout had the same tone as that it would cause a lot of kvetching over bethesdafying the series even more
>>743373119Can't figure a way out of that corner now can you?Face facts, OW 1, 2 and Avowed were shit spiritual sequels to New Vegas, there is no reason to think an actual sequel would do any better, enjoy that last delicious (You) microslop bootlicker
>>743371645Kek you fucking retard Sawyer worked with avellone on van Buren A lot of the stuff from van buren end up in new VegasEven fucking inon zur worked on fallout before todd "manlet" howard
>>743373347> No, I haven't played any of those games but I know better than you doKys faggot
>>743372152Bethesda made elder scrolls castle within the last 10 yearsnow I didn't actually play it but it had a dude cheating on his human wife with an anthro lady and nothing that based can be anything but good
>>743373458>still reddit spacing
>>743373493I accept your concession. No game culture war faggot
>>743364865>>743365053Depressing
>>743372326You have definitely not played Pentiment. I doubt you're even sure what it is
>>743367151They also published the nuDoom and Dishonored games but you aren't listing those
Games taking more than 40 months to make is utterly absurd.In any other sector of the software industry, you'd be laughed out of the room if you tried to tell your execs you need more than 2 years to make a program
>>743365053I got to the end of the “story” on free mode, that storage box bullshit is ridiculous, you’re constantly chucking useful stuff to make space. I’m not even sure how I made it that far with the whole game and every interaction having an observable delay.
>>743362601He stopped caring starting with Skyrim.
>>743374214Blame faggots that need to have the most recent photoreal graphics
>>743370214>Video is from 2011>Approximately 100 employees at the time>5% of them at the gym during working hours
>>743373734>No game culture war faggotWe don't sign our posts here
>>743374552Well that's clearly not true. No one considers Overwatch, Genshin, or Marvel Rivals failures.
>>743370821lmao he made an entire video seething when someone asked him why all newer games are uglified and went on a rant about "what do you mean beatufiul" and used the words "unconventionally attractive".The man's suffering of complete pozz of the brain.
>>743362450Creating games is too much troubleJust shit out some dlc and let the creation club cattle make content for your game
>>743371434He was a fucking game director. Please, just stop already.
>>743373856Not quoted but Pentiment was stereotypical commiefornian garbage.>in medieval bohemia:>black eritrean priest several hundred miles north of the only place in europe they were ever sighted (Rome's mission), based on the revisionist claims of an american baptist hotep institute>gypsy cathar. Let me just say that again a gypsy cathar. And one that looks like a bollywood indian instead of a gypsy at that. And it's the modern misunderstanding of cathars as faux-gnosticism. Ridiculous in the extreme.>feminist nuns several hundred years and the atlantic ocean away from even a glimmer of that kind of ideology being born>whore nun who has your abortion with the help of the other nuns (an ideology considered murder by christfags today nevermind in the middle ages)>main character believes in universalism yet asks jews forgiveness for saying grace at a meal something that could only come from the twisted mind of a californian>monks, one of the most strictly regimented lives at the time, engaging in gay sex in the library>final act is a woman artist running off with her lesbo lover to the big city>sawyer's complete pop-history misunderstanding of Martin GuerreThat's just off the top of my head. No doubt someone can do better if they manage to look at it long enough without being disgusted.
>>743373119I played PoE and Tyranny both were shit.PoE had all of one area of any interest, the druids in the elven town and they did fuck all with them. It was already bad with the kickstarter shitters everywhere but it became a waste of time after the trial.Tyranny is terrible. I genuinely do not see what people who shill that see in it. It's tasteless, what little it steals from black company is boring, it spergs endless lore at you which amounts to "we're a matriarchy", "the evil one is a woman!" (but conveniently absent so you don't have to fight her) and "we're the randumb evil guys and they're the backstabbing evil guys". Encounter design of melee + caster makes Temple of Elemental Evil's bugbear spam look good and creative in comparison.
>>743374214Gamers are so browbeaten by the past 20 years they they think long dev times are acceptable
>>743373395Van Buren is literally not part of the old Fallouts it was never released.
Bethesda may be incompetent, but at least they aren't literal faggots.Obsidian is literally mained by literal faggots who hate straight men and straight romances.
>>743364654Morrowind was 03. Oblivion 06. Fallout 3 08. Skyrim 11. Fallout 4 15. Fallout 76 18. Staffield 2023. No game set to drop this year or next. They've been getting slower and lazier.
>>743374634You don't play gamesyou just talk shit about studios, you faggot retard.
>>743375187>this nigga commits to memory a novella worth of imagined slights instead of playing games
>>743362369>obsidian is now interplay>obsidian is now black isle studios>obsidian is now le original devsOkay retard
>>743375506You fucking retard kek
>>743375187>>monks, one of the most strictly regimented lives at the timeYeah monks,, they never do anything shady or sexual....
>>743376230Correct. They didn't have the opportunity to regardless. The ones engaging in illicit sexual shit were priests.
>>743376230They generally didn't, no, you faggot redditor
>>743375872>uhm reality didn't akshually happenkwab, imagine being so much of a raped nigger you simp for modern slopsidian
>>743370698Top should be Source.
>>743371051Cain was fighting with that whore Patel who is gone thank fuck.
>>743374459no? right after because skyrim is the best they have
has he actually expressed a single thought since this happened or or we just doing funny memes
>>743377036>>743376889lol ok
>>743381803>Mission failed. We'll get 'em next time.
>>743362369>watching youtube>random video talking about how todd lost fallout in my recommended>almost 2 million views in like 3 daysthat many normies are actually paying attention to this?
why doesn't this look like todd's delhi branch?
>>743362369You "people" are mentally ill.
>>743362636you can also have a managerial clique thats terrified of losing their cushy positions by making a decision and taking responsibility so everything slogs to a halt
>>743362636>You gotta crack the whip if you want to get shit done.I'm not convinced this is the best way to handle it by default. When it becomes a social club where nothing gets done then yeah, you have to crack the whip. But environments where everyone likes each other and works as an actual team are much more likely to produce something great than one where everyone is terrified of getting bitched out for not "looking productive". >t. has worked in a good environment and bad environment, and the bad environment was an absolute circus
>>743362369>IN 2 YEARSThat’s being incredibly generous for a project we know just started. Even with 4/76 assets as a base I’d bet we’re not seeing it until the 2030’sUnless MS mandates using AI, where we’ll see it faster but the level of slop will be unprecedented
>>743387003>the level of slop will be unprecedentedI doubt it, desu. Not only is the AI getting better but people are learning how to communicate with it more effectively as well. I predict that the only thing using AI will do is make them more efficient, and and without anything close to a meaningful loss of quality.
>>743387162Has there been a game produced using AI that’s notably better then the dime a dozen slop on steam or psn? Microsoft would no doubt love to have a big product shipped using AI to justify their investments but it really doesn’t seem like video games will be the space to do it
>>743387356I have no idea, but considering the fact that there are swathes of lunatics who will go out of their way to review bomb anything AI related regardless of the quality of the content itself, it wouldn't surprise me if no one publicly admits they've used it to help with their work. At least not for a while. IMO everyone is probably using it. To not use it would be like expecting to build something without using google. It's just unthinkable.
>doubting Todd in any way, shape, or formObsidiots really keep shilling their fucked lame as dev when they haven't made anything good in a decade. Fuck off. You fuckers are all forgetting *BRAAAAAAP!!!* GIANT DOOKY SHIT EVERYWHERE! SPURTS OF FECES FLYING OUT OF MY ASSHOLE. *BRAAAAAAAP!!!!* GIANT SHIT TURDS STUCK TO WALLS. OY VEY I LOVE SHITTING MYSELF GOY. *BRAAAAAAAP!!!!*
>>743387717Show me a good Todd game released in the past 10 years.
>>743371632>Josh>John>Tim>LeonardYou have the big names of 1,2, & NV
>>743387356>>743387665expedition 33 had AI assets in released game and it shortcircuited all the luddites because it was too popular of a game to virtue signal against
Humiliation Ritual
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>>743388626well, atleast it's not the video of the guy giving the chicken oral
>>743366621>codedYou're a faggot yourself.
>>743388537You're joshing me!
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>>743387882Oblivion
>>743366407Tim 'Outer Worlds 2 and Avowed' Cain?Fuck.Pack it up boys NV2 is going to be dogshit now.
>>743362369>IN 2 YEARSOptimistic are we? Even if they repurpose a game they were working on its going to be 3 or 4 years at least. Don't expect Obsidian to churn out a Fallout game in 18 months again unless you want to release in a state worse then Cyberpunk 2077
>>743390136That was literally 20 years ago unless you are talking about the Remaster in which case that wasn't Todd that was Virtuos
>>743362369Sad
