>Single handedly created the greatest action combat system of all time>Leaves without a single acknowledgement afterwardsIt's not fair bros, I know stinky Activision suits are the reason why this never got a follow up and I hate them. From should own the IP and make it even better with a sequel.
>>743366713>>Single handedly created the greatest action combat system of all timeIt's a shallow counter based QTE game that's held up with some admitedly stellar sound work. I have no idea why you fuckwits hold it up as some incredibly deep action game where you need to "find yourself and contemplate the art of war" or some other pretentious shit when parry based combat existed since royal guard in DMC3
>>743366713It's better than """""""character""""""" action game garbage but it's still worse than the Souls games.
>>743368163DMC has braindead, piss easy enemies unlike Sekiro's which are fast paced and actually a threat.
>>743368163>have to pause the game and go to the menus to access a simple parry movelol dmc fags are pathetic
>>743366713Oh yea I just recently watched a play through of this and it seems to have the greatest combat. never seen quite like it
what do mean isnt the whole game just spam l1. how in the hell is this the best combat. id unironically give it to demons/ds1 tho cause that shaped the whole controller layout forever. oldfags remember r1 hit and l1 block wasnt a thing before this
>>743368552>Have to access the menus to access a simple combat artTouche
>>743366713It has an anime coming, if successful we might see a dlcTrust the plan
its just metal gear rising again.
better thn rollslop at any rate
>>743366713Shame the combat system is only relevant in three encounters in the main game and the hardmode boss rushes.
>>743368305Alright now post footage of yourself beating DMC3 on DMD mode using only royalguard.
>isnt the whole game just spam l1Easiest way to filter shitters that didn't play.
Play Stellar Blade. It even has mikiri counter, tough an inferior implementation.
>>743369093As a game it's fucking shit tho. Don't recommend
>>743369073No, the game is literally just spam parry, you are rewarded with an instant kill move for sitting still while waiting for the enemy to attack.
When people get upset about nightreign or duskbloods taking up devtime when from could be working on something else, i think about what we could have had if this trash got aborted
>>743369187It's ok, nigger. I accept your concession.
>>743369157I thought it was okay. Clearly they tried to mix up various Nier Automata and Fromsoft influences and add some stylish flair to it. Ended up flawed, but enjoyable.
>>743366713I preferred rollslop than parryslop, seriously Sekiro is the worst From game, no contest, DS2 has more soul.It has multiple endings and some good boss like the end boss at least, it's not completely devoid of quality but I remember when the headless ape somehow cam back to life, so yeah that happened... I bet some From cultist was s-y-gaping but I just wanted this shit game to be over, at least it ended with a high note. This shit game made 300M dollars? Really cultists will eat anything.
>>743369285Yeah, the game is very fun and packed with eye candy. The only "sekiro-like" I enjoined besides Fallen Order.
>>743369285In other words it offers nothing new, just a worse experience compared to a few older games
>>743368163>It's a shallow counter based QTE gameYou're describing literally every single video game ever made. That's what a video game is on a foundational level.
>>743368163DMC3 and Sekiro are so intrinsically different games that comparing them is pointless.
>>743369478Yeah, yeah, whatever. Probably true if you want to be the most critical faggot alive.
>>743368772Attacking with the shoulder buttons feels like shit. It's a bane on the gaming industry.
>Single handedly created the greatest action combat system of all timeWhy do normalfags who never had any actual contact with something love to declare the first semi-related thing they have contact with "the greatest x of all time"?The combat system in Shitkiro sucks dick. It centers itself around standing in place spamming blocks and counters until the kill prompt shows up, falls apart completely when you're not fighting 1v1 and you have to open up a menu if you want to use a different move. The fact Shitkiro fags want their game to be seen as "better" than games like DMC is a complete joke.>>743368305Please come back once you've actually beat the tutorial in any DMC game of your choice.
>>743369693Uo oh, shitter melty.
>>743369869But enough about people who think thaf Shitkiro has "the greatest combat system of all time" because it only really uses 2 buttons.
>>743366713>>Single handedly created the greatest action combat system of all time Yeah it's a great game but you are honestly smoking crack if you think this. There is zero fucking depth to the combat system, it's a rock-paper-scissors combat system with no stake whatsoever, even less the further you advance.Fromdrones are truly the biggest faggots there are. Play more games, do yourself a favor.
>>743369932It's ok, nonny. One day you'll beat Genichiro and see the light, too.
>>743369932>more buttons means it’s bettererGod you are miserable
>>743370113It's okay, one day you will get past the big doggo in DMC3 and stop pretending that shitkiro is some kind of action game masterpiece because you only need to stand in place and spam the block button and rock-paper-scissors counters.
>>743370132>N-nooo action games are too complex and have too many inputs... sekiro is a masterpiece because even my senile grandma could beat it! It only really needs one button!
>>743369693>>743370065Holy sametranny seethe, kek.
>>743370284Two guys.
>>743370251>projecting that hardYup, my assessment was correct
I like both DMC and Sekiro.
>>743370312Kek, sure, sure, toon.
>>743370387>one guy shits on the game hard>the other says that it's a "great game" but the combat system has zero depth>clearly it's le samefag!!!!!!!
>>743370180>playing DMCslop at allBlackie, please. Your series is beloved by wom*n and faggots.
>>743370452So you didn't even play DMC at all? Yeah, I figured. Play more games.
>>743369932lets see, deflect, attack, jump(which can be used offensively to jump on enemy heads for posture damage and combo into more air attacks either through attack or prosthetic by the way), dodging forward for mikiri counter, prosthetic skill.Im counting 5 and yes all of these can be used commonly in any combat scenario to fuck shit up with whichever mixups you want. You deciding to go for the most boring option is hardly on the game and even then you will be forced to at least jump the sweet attacks (being generous to you since you can actually just deflect thrusts that would otherwise want you to mikiri).Dont be such a disingenuous faggot.
>>743368163Souls fanboys refuse to move on with their lives
>>743369520The problem is that it's only that and it's also bad.Yakuza 0 is also a shallow QTE game, even worse than Sekiro in that regard but it's not just that, making Sekiro just shallow and nothing more.
>>743370451>There is zero fucking depth to the combat system, it's a rock-paper-scissors >spam the block button and rock-paper-scissors counters.At least try to vary your vocabulary, you dumb troon.
>>743370495I accept your concession, gayboy. Keep trying to beat Genichiro.
>>743370519>the spammable parry>lame attacks>a jump button>dodging>rock paper scissors counters>rock paper scissors itemsSo much depth. So exciting.
>>743370519The only 2 cool actions in Sekiro are mikiri counter and jumping on enemies, the rest is shit and should have simply been cut-off or replaced by something else.
>Y-YOU'RE LE SAME GUY!!!>UR JUST BAD!!!>I didn't even play other action games but sekiro is best!!!Is this the best Fromsoft discord can offer...?
>>743370780>not even trying to defend his sametroon behavior anymore Good boy. I accept your concession.
>>743370654Keep trying to get past the tutorial stages of DMC3.
>>743370824First point. Already adressed.
>>743370703Better than mashing triangle on punching bags lol
>>743370895Yes, you already addressed your color and mental illness. Thanks for letting everyone know.
>>743370832I beat DMC3 years before I played Sekiro. Sekiro is the better game.
>>743370703I was just humoring your own retarded button count = complexity claim and debunking your stupid ass on that front. We could talk about what actual complexity means for me, you and the game but something tells me you arent interested in that anyway and just want to be a faggot.
>>743370832>playing DMCslop at allThe HRT treatment is fucking with your brain. Your kusoge was already dismissed.
>>743370113>Sekiro is a hard ga-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaZLo5b-O24
>>743370972>the combos>using guns to keep your combo going>weapon switching mid combo>character unique mechanics such as charging up Nero's blade or Donte's different styles>taunting>parrying that actually requires proper timing and you eat shit from anyone if you fail>devil trigger>enemies having weaknesses that can be exploited for a instakill>etcYes, so much deeper than shitkiro.
>>743371168Now post your clear
>>743371090>did I already mention that I don't play action games?!You did.
>>743371076Shitkiro is not deep or complex when you only need to spam blocks and sometimes press the red dot button. Sorry.
>>743371321>did I already mention that I don't play faggot-friendly games?!I did, indeed.
>>743371168I am not saying is hard, I am saying you're dogshit, kek.
>>743371383>I never even touched the game let along beat itWe can all tell.
>>743368163DMC is legitimately a series aimed towards stupid people. To enjoy it, you have to be genuinely unintelligent.
>>743370601Check poster ID faggot. I do like sekiro, it's probably my favorite From game aside from DkS3, but saying it's the best combat system is absolutely uncanny levels of delusion.Off the top of my head, I can think that the Nioh games, Wuchang, Lies of P, and Ninja Gaiden 1+2 have better combat systems.
>>743366713Miyasaki hates sequel Accept that sekiro is a one and done and look forward to their future projects instead.
>>743369520Couldn't be farther from the truth, a video game on a foundational level is a puzzle, It's problem solving. If video games truly were just a bunch of QTEs then that still makes Sekiro shallow as a game since it only provides 2 of those, parry and jumping.
>>743371520You're not fooling anyone, you dumb troon. Like I said, vary your vocabulary. Also,>WuchangKek.
Shitkiro fanboys are in no position to call out other games for being casual friendly. They talk about difficulty but they get shredded in games that actually require more than two buttons to beat.
>>743366713I'm think about starting a new game because I totally forgot where I was.
>>743371552Elden Ring is a sequel of Dark Souls which is a sequel of Demon Souls.I'll give something to Sekiro, it looks good and runs well, it's not 200GB Unreal 5 slop with gaytracing and Lumen.
>>743371793I prefer the Sifu one. But yeah, From fanboys are comedic. Their games are so easy to play that women love them.
>>743369520>You're describing literally every single video game ever made. That's what a video game is on a foundational level.They're not. Most games (or at least the ones that have any depth) operate on the concept of trade offs. By this I mean they fuction in a way where every action you make also has some sort of cost or drawback that forces you to compensate by actually thinking and making decisions on what to do next. This creates an interesting dynamic where the game is never solved because both players are getting in and out of losing or winning positions without ever being truly fucked (countered). A good example is blocking in fighting games. Sure you're not taking much damage when you block but you're also in a losing position because you can't fight, are taking chip damage and are vunerable to a command throw. This forces you to think and make decisions to get the upper hand on the player. On the other hand counter based games have none of this. In a counter based game you just need to press the right button at the right time to negate the enemy's attacks without any drawbacks. This leads to a gameplay loop where the only shit that you actually care about is timing because nothing that you do actually costs you anything. Sekiro kind of tries to mitigate this by adding the posture meter but as long as you perfectly parry (counter) you take so little damage that it's irrelevant.
I don't give a shit how many buttons it uses it feels nice to play
Gun, Ball and Soulslike cattle will tell you that Goykiro is actually deeper than Hack and Slash games but then you check out the highest level of play of their game and it has mods that increase the moveset or even enemy aggression.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys9cgeMRZMYThe only reason an action game would ever need moveset mods for is either because the player is too good and wants a bigger challenge after years of playing it or because the game plays literally the exact same across all player levels, the latter is the case for Goykiro, both an experienced player and a beginner will approach battles in the exact same way because the enemy design of Goykiro is shallower than the average Zelda game.Sekiro is the peak of action games... when you turn it into Devil may Cry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dReREg4Dtyc
>>743371793Making the player learn a fighting game tier moveset is just plain annoying in a single player game. Most of these are reduced to spamming the best move once you figure it out anyway
>>743372930Almost like actual action games have things to learn while Shitkiro combat is solved the second you're told how to parry.
>>743372930Not really because these games have style meters, meaning you are dealing with enemies, your position, your moveset and ranking at the same time. That's far more depth than pressing the red button when seeing red attack. It is a shame that a majority of hack and slash devs are cowards who would never make a game where getting high ranks is obligatory in order to beat it, maybe Itagaki would've done it? Who knows.
>>743372589"High level play" means using a bunch of worthless moves that aren't necessary to beat the game.
>>743369640What controller do you have? Xbox style controllers feel way shittier to play with that layout than PS style, at least in my experience. It was shocking how much worse Sekiro felt to play with my newer Xbox style controller, even though I was greatly enjoying it for most other games.
>>743371617Sekiro has some really cool combat puzzles, imo.>>743371793I think Nioh shines more in its RPG systems than just as a pure action game. I think it's underrated in that regard. It's a true Action RPG.
>>743371785Believe what you want man, I just want you to try out more games and broaden your horizons. Sekiro's great, but the combat is simple and very much made for mass appeal, not the strongest suit of the game (which, again, does not mean the combat is BAD, it's just not the best of all time).Cheers.
>>743366713it's just a dark souls mini game
>>743369056>play the game 4 times with baby difficulties until you are allowed to play DMDDogshit design, neck yourself DMCfag.
>>743372029Sekiro has blocking which does exactly what you describe but with posture being the trade off, terrible example to use.
>>743375724If you're playing on hard you also take chip damage when blocking, which is pretty cool.
>>743373880Lol I just use the stealth sugar and backstab possess the odachi guy.
Sekiro is great, but it's nowhere near the greatest action combat of all time. That still belongs to God Hand.
>>743376084God Hand is awesome but it's in a weird place in that it's both underappreciated and overrated, and both feed each other. People sing it high praises because it deserves to be played more, but in turn that means that the few people who actually play it instead of just larping it are likely to be slightly disappointed that it didn't match their expectations.Still definitely very much worth playing and it's weird that so many people refuse to care about anything outside of DMC, Ninja Gaiden and Bayonetta. And MGR I guess, that one broke into the mainstream too.
>>743375532There's a cheatcode to unlock DMD in 3. Now put it in and stream your playthrough.
>>743376659I was lucky enough to play God Hand when it just came out thanks to the random /v/ threads popping up where you'd hit 10-20 posts of people trying to convey how fun it was, before the God Edits meme really took off and brought more interest. I'm not even a huge fan of beat em ups or action games and I suck at skill based games, but God Hand still drew me in with the wacky 2000's anime setting and highly customizable combat system.There's a lot of mystique behind it now so probably yeah if you'd pick up God Hand today it won't land the same way it did then. But I think that's generally true for most games. God Hand is still unique in that there aren't many games that boast a combat system like it, so even if it doesn't live up to all the hype at the very least the combat system should still feel extremely fresh and ahead of its time, even today.
>>743376764Which version of the game? and what is the cheatcode?
>>743369187I think every enemy and boss besides a handful of minibosses and early game enemies/fodder require you to chunk about half their HP down from exploiting openings and learning what moves you can dodge rather than parry to get more punish windows in. Only then will their posture not recover too fast for just sitting there to be a viable strategy. Not to mention your parry game has to be good enough for own posture not to break from one whiff and get punished yourself for this to work.>>743369693>OH YOU THINK ACTION GAME IS GOOD? WHAT ABOUT DMC?every fucking time. We get it.
>>743368163>spamming bullshit like a retard is better than measured controlled action
DMC fans coming in is like someone going into a /mu/ thread and complaining not enough people are acknowledgeding my bloody valentine. DMC is like on every 3x3 thread ever posted. We know it exists, we also know about Stalker, and Planescape Torment and Godhand, and Symphony of the Night and every other game /v/ doesnt shut the fuck up about because theyre underrated everywhere else.
>sekiro Great enemy design, but combat is shallow and simplistic, pretty much a qte sim.>dmcCombat is a trillion times more involved than sekiro, with more depth but enemies are literal punching bags.Nioh 2 combines the best of both of these games which is why its the best action game ever made. Trash mobs are a billion times more complex with varied movesets than anything in sekiro, with raw difficulty and an infinite amount of ways to play the game.Its the goat.
>>743369056>fast enemies you're only allowed to parry ah, so sekiro but shittier?
>>743366713>unlock framerate>increase fov>enable auto-loot>remove xp loss on deathyep, it's gaming time
>>743366713I didn't finish it. Too hard to be fun for me.I liked everything else about it though. Glad you guys liked it.
>>743379820Works on all versions, but the HD collection disables saving.
>>743366713of all the great games that could have spawned copycats, the fact that sekiro didn't makes me sadimagine a batman stealth/immsim with awesome combat and great level design, an assassins creed ripoff that's actually good, or any number of fun as shit games that marry stealth and simple but engaging and challenging combat instead we got a bunch of generic parryslop without a SINGLE dev able to capture what made sekiro's combat good
>>743366713>It's not fair bros, I know stinky Activision suits are the reason why this never got a follow up and I hate them.Oh noes, where are my heckin' sequels and reboots! Fuck off, you peabrained twat.
>>743366713i could never get good at sekiro because i couldnt tell the difference between the warning symbols for different attacks... i practiced trying to parry on the first enemy you fight with some spear, near a bridge in one of the first levels, and just couldnt ever get it to a level i felt comfortable. i got filtered...
>>743381870This will unlock all difficulties right away on a fresh save file? This will come in really handy, thanks.
>>743382440>i couldnt tell the difference between the warning symbols for different attacksYou should look at the animation of the boss attack, not the warning symbol, lol.
