I dunno why you're saying this, any game I can buy on GOG I do so.
performative tweet and threadno one cares or has cared about physical for ages now.
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Dogshit ceo dogshit ui dogshit game selection dogshit fan base
>>743368646The company is owned by the ch*nese government. It's nothing more than spyware and a drain on western wealth.
>>743368646the installer connects to the internet thoand show ads during installation
>>743368720Doesn't matter if you don't care about it. It's important for consumers to have some level of control, even if they don't exercise it. OPTIONS, nigger. OPTIONS. WE SHOULD HAVE THEM.
>>743368768>storefront>fanbaseare yuo retard?
>>743368646why pay for something that you can pirate?
>>743368818Didn't the original founder just buy it back?
>>743368904If you show up at a local store and it's filled with trannys do you still shop there or do you go somewhere more respectable
>>743368856don't like it don't buy ityou have plenty of options.
>>743368850Those ads are baked into the installer, they're not dynamically loaded from the internet.
>>743368646Speak for yourself, I browse GoG for sales the same way I browse Steam.
>>743368646Literally nothing for sale.
>>743368904Are you?
>>743368646why should I care about a plastic disc? Why not just leave installer on my SSD?
>>743368720trvkewatch them seethe doe
>>743368646I did.The first thing after Steamslop forced me to go online to "re-acrivate" a game I've long installed was to go to GOG and rebuy 70% of my library there . It really is better to have an eternal exe install without DRM-WEF shit
>>743368646fun factALL games that are both on GOG and Steam are also DRM free on Steam.This means that if you log off steam and/or close it, you can still launch those games from the exe or desktop without Steam running.So there is literally no difference between getting them on GOG or on Steam.
The problem with GoG is it isn't in any position to make demands from publishers to sell their games DRM free. So they have to beg for DRM free copies to sell, which worked fine for old games like their name implies, but publishers are still uppity about piracy on PC with new releases.
>>743369084liesthe rpg maker games can't run without steam
>>743369076>le based jew
>>743368646Your best hope is that the GOG/Steam relationship turns into something like Firefox/Chrome, where Google is essentially bankrolling Firefox by themselves to prevent anti-trust lawsuits while effectively holding a total monopoly over what web standards get adopted, how and when
>>743368646For me it's gog dash games dot com
>>743369128such as? cause i have a few of those on steam and i can test
>>743369084Lying GabenBottom.
>>743369102having drm free games available is likemtrusting non ID votingonly retards would trust that
>>743368957good thing GoG is not a local store and you don't have to interact with other customers in any capacity.
>>743368850I physically disconnect the Ethernet adapter before running them and I still see the ads.
>>743369160>your best hope is the worst possible optionHuh?
>>743369084Nope. There's some that just re-package the GOG version for Steam but that doesn't apply to most games.The most ridiculous example is Deus Ex Mankind Divided both the GOG and Epic versions are truly DRM-free, but the Steam version still has Denuvo on it for some reason.
>>743369070we're not here to think rationally, we're here to signal our virtue.
>>743368646>hadHe dead?
>>743369084Cyberpunk 2077 has Steam DRM built in.
>>743369102They should just put their games up after the first few months, when they make most of their profits
>>743369192this.....so. much. this.GoG failed because they do not require picture ID uploaded to secure government servers in order for patrons to purchase a license to borrow the digital copy of games.If you hate DRM and hate requiring picture ID and proving who you are on the web, then you're probably a blue haired liberal with transgender friends, or worse, a transgender gay lover.
>>743368720I'm pretty sure people pirate because the game is yours forever
>>743368957>ahh someone i dont like uses the store now i can't touch it!Do you even hear how you sound? You look like such a pathetic little coward
>>743369084How many DRM free game are there really on steam? I can only think of Binding of Isaac, the old flash version that is
>>743369070>>743369286You retards get caught up on the dumbest shit. Whether you use a plastic disc or not is beside the point. The point is ownership, of having access to that game even when the internet is down, or if the corporate storefront decides to remove it from sale
>>743368768>Dogshit ceo dogshit ui dogshit game selection dogshit fan basethe fuck are you on about
>>743369084You have to check for steam_api64.dll, usually in the root or in a binaries folder.If that file exists, the game needs Steam to run (even if it's just in offline mode). And no, deleting it will not accomplish anything.What you've posted is worthless nonsense (read: a lie) because plenty of of those games ended up making use of any of Steam's features (such as workshop support) which indirectly also means they've ended up having the DRM built into them because it's not possible to have one without the other.
>>743369401your comparison is not funny thopublishers having to trust gamers to not shae their copies is not how business worklook at how the old DOS games were pirated like 90%+
>>743368646I actually do this with GOG. It's based.
>>743369070because consoletards are shitting their diapers over physical media being removed and gog is pointing out that their site allows you to still have your games on physical media if that's what you want to do
>>743368646steamfags are a cult, if you don't buy on steam you're a pirate
>>743368720quiet kike
>>743369191You can test it yourself to see it's true.>>743369247>Deus Ex Mankind Dividedthat's on the developers for not removing Denuvo from the Steam version, but you can still launch it without Steam running.>>743369310You can literally launch it without Steam running, try it.>>743369590>You have to check for steam_api64.dll, usually in the root or in a binaries folder.wrong, that's for games that do have Steam DRM, which is not the same as "DRM-Free on Steam"Also, for ALL those games that have ONLY Steam DRM, they can still be launched with steam closed if you simply put a "steam_appid.txt" next to the .exe(the actual one often found in \Binaries\Win64\, not necessarily the one in the main folder as that may just act as a "launcher" for the real .exe) with the app ID for that game written in it.>plenty of of those games ended up making use of any of Steam's features (such as workshop support)reread what i said, cause i specifically mentioned games that are BOTH on steam and GOG, and none of those have steam workshop support cause then the GOG versions couldnt take advantage of it.>>743369471plenty, the list is quite big https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_big_list_of_DRM-free_games_on_Steamif you have any of those you can test yourself and see im right and not lying
>>743368646Who says that I'm not supporting GoG? I have around 75 games bought there. If they released Battle for Middle Earth 1 and 2, I would buy them right away, in a snap.
>>743368646Why do I have to "buy" a game? The game is already done its finished. All the devs got paid. If they want me to give them money, they shojld put something new I want in there and I'll front the comission costs.
>>743368646I do.
>>743368646I buy all my older games there. Not newer ones and especially not newer ones because they never get updates on time.
>>743369681I have a 90 game steam library but I don't pretend that Steam cannot just revoke me "licence" in a minute. Even offline , many games have DRM checks and need to be reverified online.I admit that GOG offline installers are superior.I don't get why stupid morons shill against their own interests.
Because people treat steam like a cult, it's mostly people under 30 that weren't PC gaming before steam was around to be fair. Steam wasn't very well liked or received initially actually, people warmed up to it as the client improved a bit (friends actually started working, didn't need to delete clientregistry.blob or whatever each broken update etc) and of course the massive sales later on helped the most. But it's reached a cult level of support now where losers will literally download a steam version of a game that has it's own launcher, just for double the DRM and potential patching issues. It's still miles better than Origin, bethesda launcher or ubishit whatever.
>>743368718They're saying this for they're capitalizing on the fact that they're the only one that let you keep the games you have bought, now that Sony has decided to pass on full digital, mimicking Steam.
>>743369590It's not just a matter of workshop support, plenty of games aren't properly set up for saving outside of the Steam folder or require a Steam user name to be attached to save filesAnd often times you won't even notice this is the case until way into the game. 99% of all those big lists of DRM-free Steam games have only been tested so far as "it got to the main menu", when that really means fuck all. Some games function until your first autosave, or until it tries to upload your score to a leaderboard, or whenever the game checks for additional DLC which might not happen until hours into the game.I only know this because I seriously explored the option of backing up all my Steam games until I found out just what a fucking nightmare it is to do so
>>743368850some installers still show ads for duke nukem, even though that game got delisted from gog years ago
>>743368646no games/thread
>>743368646>shifting the blame on the storefrontSo fucking tired of this revisionism crap.The game companies want to forced DRM down your throat, before Steam even existed. If Steam died tomorrow they will just look for another way to do it.Steam is literally just the middle man that makes it has smooth as possible for the consumers, and this is coming from someone that has mainly been a consolefag for fuck's sake.
>>743369084Ignoring that this is a complete lie to begin with, all Steam purchases have DRM because it is literally impossible to install them without the Steam client because Valve doesn't offer any kind of downloadable installer, and offline mode does not work unless the game has been launched online at least once
>>743368646Gabe sells convenience. To normalfags, convenience is all that matters.
>>743369793>HL2lmao no way
>>743370023>all Steam purchases have DRMBullshit.
>>743369679consoletards only care about the plastic box they put on their shelves tho, they were perfectly happy with cardboard discs with codes on them for years.
>>743368904GoG fanboys have been nonstop harasding me here every time i remind them that King Gaben has bested Soros twice in court
>>743370009No anon you are wrong, I tried to sell my indie game on steam and Gabe personally drove his yacht to my head and put a gun to my head so I was forced to put DRM in it.
>>743370067i can't get over how many people don't realise thispeople just LOVE a centralized store where they can buy absolutely everything with a couple of clicksif it requires a Google search they will just not bother, you could offer them free shit right now on their computer that exactly matches what they are looking for and they'll look at you and say "but I can just this from here"
>>743370139Do a fresh OS install and tell me how you install a Steam game without installing the Steam client on your PC
>>743369793>games that are BOTH on steam and GOG, and none of those have steam workshop support cause then the GOG versions couldnt take advantage of itPlenty of games on GOG that have multiplayer, workshop support or other online features just ripped out and non-functional instead of even trying to make them work offline.Sometimes you see devs do the work like Rise of the Tomb Raider where the GOG version is the only one where the card game stuff is functional offline. But usually not.Another example of DRM disparity between Steam and GOG is Deus Ex Human Revolution. The actual game files are 100% identical. What they've done is replace the SteamAPI DLL, with a GOG Galaxy DLL that masquerades as the SteamAPI. A few other games do this sort DLL replacement for DRM as well including most GFWL games on GOG. It's unfortunately not fully featured SteamAPI replacement so you can't just use the Galaxy DLL as a drop-in for other Steam games.
During the PS exodus of 2028 GoG will start gaining in popularity. Not everyone is a enthusiastic goyslave like yachtcucks
I know there's literally no reason to do it, but I wish Valve would give GOG an olive branch by putting some of their older GoldSrc games onto GOG.At least that way I think it might shut Tim Swiney up a bit.
>>743369892>plenty of games aren't properly set up for saving outside of the Steam folder or require a Steam user name to be attached to save filesthat is 100% irrelevant.If you bought the game on steam, then you obviously have steam installed and a user attached to it.Once that's set(which is automatic), those games save just fine in whatever folder they need to save in, even when Steam is not running.>Some games function until your first autosave, or until it tries to upload your score to a leaderboard, or whenever the game checks for additional DLC which might not happen until hours into the game.False, cause once again, i specified that im talking about games that are BOTH on steam and on GOG, and of those, none require steam to be running or online for their save, leaderboard check, or dlc checks.>I only know this because I seriously explored the option of backing up all my Steam games until I found out just what a fucking nightmare it is to do soDunno man, i play plenty of Steam games without ever opening it and i have no issues, no idea what games you tried where it's such a nightmare for you.>>743370023>all Steam purchases have DRMLMAO>>743370332>Plenty of games on GOG that have multiplayer, workshop support or other online features just ripped out and non-functional instead of even trying to make them work offline.And what does that mean? That if you run their Steam version without Steam running, they'll behave just like their GOG counterpart wthout the workshop or online features, so as i said, no difference.Also, all of you keep replying mentioning all the games that DO have some sort of DRM, while in my very first post i specified that this is about the ones that are on BOTH GOG and Steam that are DRM Free, if a game is both on gog and steam but features heavy drm, then it's not included in the games im talking about, cause it's not DRM free
>>743369209>>743369408Tranny defense force
>>7433686464chan doesnt buy games. They don't support anything that they have to pay for. Its why "quality of service" talks here are meaningless. Its like asking a homeless person the in and outs of HOA laws. Its irrelevant to their lifestyles.
>>743368957>If you show up at a local store and it's filled with trannys do you still shop there or do you go somewhere more respectable>automatically assumes defeat and goes somewhere elseno fucking wonder people say that right-wingers/conservatives are massive defeatists
>>743370565>can't partake in something that trannies may or may not use for dumb reasonsdo you also drink water, perhaps? You'd be surprised to know trannies also do that. I suggest you stop doing it to align with your world logic.
>>743370298Nta but I have a thumbdrive of small indie games that I bought on steam that I take with me when I travel to play on my laptop.
>>743369857>dozens of threads shilling GOG daily>None shilling steam >in fact it's gogniggers constantly shitting up the board bitching about GabeNGODYea ok retard>under 30I've never met a PC gamer over 30 who doesn't use steam what the fuck are you on about. People my age grew up with steam why would they not use it?
>>74337071018+ site bro.
>>743368720This i actually care about. I shouldn't need an internet connection to install a non online game I gave up money for. I shouldn't need an active internet connection to play it either. I don't need a disk but I do need a god damned exe. GOG gives me that.
>>743368856>OPTIONS. WE SHOULD HAVE THEM.First world problem.
>>743368718BASED>>743368720>performativeHow the fuck is it performative is they're doing as they say?
People are rapidly forgetting that a purchase is a two-way agreement in which the merchant is not your superior.
>>743370532if gog and steam are identical where is the steam offline installer? why do you keep avoiding this?
>>743369070SSDs can fail more easily and has lower lifespan than a safely stored DVD-ROM.
>>743370023>all Steam purchases have DRM because it is literally impossible to install them without the Steam client because Valve doesn't offer any kind of downloadable installer, and offline mode does not work unless the game has been launched online at least oncethis is the real problemvalve doesn't seem to give a fuck about it and people keep trying to muddy the waters when people bring it up
>>743370507God I hope so.
>>743368718fpbp + same
>>743368720Fuck you.No forced onlineNo forced digitalNo forced use of one single storeIf you aren't okay with either of these, fuck you
>>743368646Always do when I can. Gabe is a fat jew
>>743371116They aren't identical, steam is by far superior.
They started paying people to sue individuals in krautland using the same lawyers hollywood does. That was the start of loss of goodwill.Now it's because they keep adding nu-dogshit (and arbitrarily so, lots of good titles have been rejected) and ignore adding more Good OLD GAMES.
>>743368646Physicalfags are the crystal stone bitches of video games
>>743371259Not owning things is better?
>Wake up babe GOG is emailing its whole userbase begging for money again Kek
>all of these faggots itt larping as GoG customers
>Fallout 4 GOTY on GoG just works>Fallout 4 on steam is a mandatory remaster edition with extra bugs Based Todd rewarding preserveGODs and punishing steamtroons.
>>743368646GOG doesn't work on Linux. Steam just werks, comes with proton and gives me nice stuff like steam link to stream games to my TV.If I ever need offline installer, I can just pirate.
Once again /v/ demonstrating they're fine with committing bootlicking so long as they can use it to be adversarial.
>>743371315Germany is so cucked lmaooo
GoG steals compatibility patches people made for free, allowing them to build a reputation as "that epic game store that fixes old classics to run on modern hardware" while doing no such thing
>>743371445Why can't you combine Proton and GOG games, though?
I think I own a couple hundred gog games from back when they actually sold old stuff worth playing.Haven't bought anything from them in over a decade now.
Now let's change copyright law, so that we can legally share copies with our friends.
>>743371445I know modern games run just fine using proton but how do older games run? I know when I played Half Lyfe I hade to just use an older version of proton wouldn't the same thing be true for older GoG games?
>>743371375>Buy game on steam>install it modify it play it however whenever I want>YEA BUT YOU DON'T OWN IT BRO WHAT IF (retarded hypothetical that will never apply) HAPPENS Yea what if a fucking meteor hits the house of every gogfag and I never have to see these dogshit opinions again
If you want to use the online functionalities of a game on GOG, you need to install that godaful Galaxy that's abandonware at this point. GOG is just ok for old games.
>>743371501That means Gabekike "stole" linux distros and open source AMD drivers too while not fixing the games in his store.
>>743371406honestly, i regret buying half the crap
>>743371609You can't install the widescreen mod on KotOR steam version without modifying the .exe because it has antitamper DRM embedded in it.You can't even access and install a game on Steam without a connection to Valves serversWhat do you own?
I buy on steam not because I trust them, but because whether I buy on steam or GoG, I'm getting the same thing, the DRM can be free on both, and both are just revocable licenses. So I choose steam because it has a better all in one platform which is why it became the #1 digital storefront for games.Mods, Friends list, Profiles, Playtime, Achievements, Marketplace, Exclusive Games, Sales.
>>743371768>You can't install the widescreen mod on KotOR steam version without modifying the .exe because it has antitamper DRM embedded in it.Is this Steam's DRM or is it the publisher's?
>>743368720>no one cares or has cared about physical for ages now.Uhhhh>Be me>Buy BG3>Download offline installer>Back it up to external hdd>Lend it to friends>We all play togheter through hamachiSony shill fails again
>>743371569Old games tend to run more reliably on Linux then older ones.>Half LyfeIt has native Linux support, no need for proton.
>>743371843Why does Steam allow the publisher to add on more DRM?
>>743370189But what does that have to do with owning the games you buy?
>>743371929>then older ones*than newer ones
>>743371665depends on the gameall of the multiplayer games i play from GOG use a server browser model, which works without using Galaxy (i only use offline installers)
>>743371929>It has native Linux support, no need for proton.fuck I'm retarded I'm so used to forcing compatibility for games that I just did that by default lol
>>743371768>You can't install the widescreen mod on KotOR steam version without modifying the .exe because it has antitamper DRM embedded in it.That was developer's decision. Steam doesn't mandate any DRM. There are games sold on steam without any DRM whatsoever.>You can't even access and install a game on Steam without a connection to Valves serversYou can't access and install a game from gog without connecting to gog servers either. That's digital distribution for you.
>>743369084>fun fact>ALL games that are both on GOG and Steam are also DRM free on Steam.No, BoFIV for example.
>>743368720I mean that's the point, at least as far as preservation is concerned physical vs. digital is a non-issue. GOG only sells games digitally but you own them and they're perfectly preserved because once the data is on your hard drive it's yours to do what you want with. You don't have to connect to an online server to play them or sign into an account and nothing stops you from copying them and putting them on other devices. The distribution method is digital but the game is in effect physical once you have the data, and cannot be taken from you.If you want physical games as in official, boxed discs to continue for collectable reasons that's fair enough but it just muddies the issue when people argue physical games are important for preservation when they're really not. What's actually important is the lack of DRM.
>>743372114Saar, stop making the Steam look bad and do the needful
>>743371950In what universe is the middleman in a position to make demands from companies several times larger than them? GoG demands no DRM when they go and beg for new titles to sell on their store and publishers tell them to fuck off and kick rocks. The publishers have all of the power in these relationships with digital stores.
>>743368957Trannies are just autistic men. Obviously they'd go to the same store I do.
>>743372097>Jewgle does not force anyone to use their (((play integrity))) API yet nearly every big name company uses it, just like steamworksthey're enabling DRMyou should be ashamed of yourself you piece of shit
>>743371768>You can't modify it without..So you still can>Uhh you need to download the gameYou need to download the installer. What are you even getting at. 1 download from GoG and you can play the game, 1 download from steam and you can plah the game. If you say some retarded shit like you need to verify DRM every 2 weeks I want to know who is offline for 2 weeks at a time to begin with. Are you in somw third world shithole where you lose power for a month?
>>743372238>The publishers have all of the power in these relationships with digital stores.I'm pretty sure the poor jap devs who got their games rejected on Steam by "Mary" don't have any bargaining power whatsoever
>>743372303I have no idea what you are talking about. I do not play your zoomer mobile games.
>>743372310It is absolutely revolting that you're unironically being an apologist for online verification of offline games.
>>743368646I bought like 20 games from the recent sale. What do you mean ''we don't support GOG''?>make insomnia threads on /v/ more than 10 years ago>switch fully to GOG>buy as many games as i can from GOG>why didn't we support GOGWho is this ''we''?
>>743371569some really old games are annoying to instll, im talking about old games that have an iso + keygen era old works if you want to fiddle enough
>>743372310>who is offline for 2 weeks at a time to begin withLeast conspicuous Valve shill>>743372381It's incredible just how much corporate shill discourse is just them pretending not to understand things
>>743372310>I want to know who is offline for 2 weeks at a time to begin withpeople who work in antarctica?
>>743372442>>743372462Answer the question. Who is offline for 2 weeks at a time. I guarantee you faggots can't go 2 hours without internet, let alone 2 weeks.
>>743372363I care >>743372447
>>743372363>he still thinks it's physical vs digitalpeople hate accountspeople hate serverspeople hate storefrontspeople want drm-free roms and isos plus all updates and dlc
>>743368646because of trust, yea gog is great but I don't have faith it will always be around, where as with steam I do, also it doesn't have all the games steam has, also its called GOG which sound like GROG
This is what GOG needs to stand out, an actual LAN tunneling system, where you can play online with all those ancient games. Build that shit into Galaxy or whatever and people may start to look at your store differently. DRM free is almost irrelevant in this day unfortunately.
>>743372526>Answer my loaded question that completely misses the core issue!No.
>>743372370>I'm pretty sure the poor jap devs who got their games rejected on Steam by "Mary" don't have any bargaining power whatsoeverYeah they don't because the biggest duopoly on the planet is currently trying to censor ecchi and porn games. Did you forget that DLsite, a japanese porn game store, nearly got eradicated overnight by CC processors pulling support? The only reason that store is still up is because the japanese have their own nationalized banks that don't use western CC processing infrastructure and gave them a way to process payments again.
>>743372526>defending online verificationpost discarded
>>743368720im sorry anon but YOURE A JEWAHAHAHAHi get that youre trying to say something butKIIIIIIKE HAHAHAAH
>>743368646>Why didn't we support GoG while we had the chance Because everything I would get on gog I already have on Steam before gog was able to get it on the store front
>>743372542>people hate accounts>people hate servers>people hate storefrontsMeanwhile, in the real world, Blockbuster is dead and Best Buy stopped all physical movie sales 2 years ago due to a lack of sales and wasted shelf space.
>>743372581>>743372617Concession accepted. While you sit there assblasted don't forget to donate so GOG can hit their monthly server fees.
>>743372586Mary has been rejecting games long before visa and mastercard came knocking at the door
>>743372542Steamtard
>>743372526>Who is offline for 2 weeks at a time.I've been offline for a whole month after a storm hit my city a few years back. Also i am offline when i go to my grandparents house since they have no internet. >inb4 what about phone internetLOL fuck that shit is horrible where i live. It's expensive and the connection is way shittier when compared to optical lines.
>>743372671>Blockbuster is deadbecause renting a disc gets you an incomplete game>Best Buy stopped all physical movie salesbecause Blu-Ray is full of jewish DRM
>>743372572Why not just use Hamachi? Are you a zoomer?
>>743372742Have you tried not being poor?
>>743368646>>743368718I do have a bigger library on Valve's Steam, but that's because I've been on their ecosystem for much longer, but nowadays I always give GoG priority when games are on both platforms
>>743372238Because the publishers aren't several times larger than Valve, many are smaller and Valve owns the storefront. If you want shelf space in their store then you make concessions, otherwise you go kick rocks and lose out on millions of potential customers. You fucking idiot.
>>743372707>he is ignorantCC processors have been trying to censor porn since forever. Back in 2012 they did a similar push to censor shit online primarily targeting book stores and literotica websites by giving orders to paypal to pull support unless they comply.Also lets stop pretending that its just steam. Sony and Nintendo have been censoring ecchi games since forever as well. During the PSP era I couldn't open /v/ without seeing a thread a game being censored by Sony.
>>743372310What's your plan for verifying games when there's no verification server to connect to?>but surely it'll always be there for me!You have zero control and only blind faith regarding that.
>>743372873>whataboutismI accept your concession
>>743369489It's this, but all you braindead retards will still argue in bad faith.
>>743372815>you're buying games on GOG>this means you're poorKEK! The steamies delusions are amazing gotta say. Must be all that estrogen they're pumping that is fucking with their brain. Steamies being colossal faggots and trannies that is.
>>743369070Rare based deltatroon. I'll keep my files backed up on an HDD and spin it up every few years. Disc rot happens, or they scratch. And I can't imagine how many you'd need for a modern 40gb game.
>>743371508They do work most of the time, but steam makes it a seamless experience for gaming. I'm sure if you use bottles gaming profile or just saved your prefix folder with all the patches from heroic launcher and most common dlls/redist there wouldnt be an issue with 99% of games using proton GE. Usually if a game doesnt start on heroic from the GOG its usally something like gamemode broken or some DLL/redist is missing.For example the GoG release of binding of issac does not come with the DLL openAL that is required to work in proton but steam bundles it when installing so it just werks on steam when pressing play, where as on heroic games launcher you have to open winetricks GUI to install it, only takes around 15 seconds.Also I think stalker anomaly is another game on linux that requires directX9 as well as directx11 or something like that to function properlyIn my experience thats just a quirk with linux though.
>>743372786I'm older than you son, Hamachi is depricated, Zero Tier is the standard now. That's not the point though, I can play all this shit online if I want to, but for normal people you're asking too much if they need to install a 3rd party software. Not to mention LAN tunneling is insecure for random groups. What I'm asking is an integration of a similar system to Galaxy, so everyone can have access to it without the need to know what a LAN is.
>>743372523You have other things to worry about, like being bludgeoned by a brown before he rapes your coworkers.>>743372916See >>743371609I live in reality not schizoland where corpos all of a sudden shut down because they hate money.
>>743373019I have 4 external drives and i am storing all my 800 GOG games on 2 of them no problem, i even have extra space. Games like Cyberpunk, BG3 and KCD II are all over 100gb sure but most older games are smaller.
>>743372921>its the CC processors>no its le ebil gaben>okay well what about all the other stores also censoring shit?>d-doesn't countMein nigger what is this retardation? Are we forgetting itch.io mass pulling ecchi and porn games too? Stop falling for jewish tricks when the orders to censor shit are coming from way up top.
>>743372664this/Thread
>>743368646Steamies spent the last decade attacking anything that isn't steam.
why are Steam users so fucking deranged? they get mad irl if you say something negative about Steam and Valvethey are trying to convince you that Steam isnt a DRM platform and that they sell games and not licencesthis is literally a mental illness
>>743373050>I'm older than you sonYou are? So how old are you? 50? Cus i'm 47, son and only retards play with random people. You want to make it easier for the retards? Fuck no. People should educate themselves. It's not that hard. I prefer to gatekeep and have the idiots not infest my hobby more than they already have.
>>743372843>he forgets that PCfags were treated like 2nd class citizens for over a decade and had to fight for scraps of portsSteam was in no position to negotiate DRM free games when piracy hysteria was at its peak lol.
>>743369868You have poor reading comprehension
>>743373296>he has to address the whole thread instead of (you)ing posters in specificKWAB
>>743368720You have physical. Games are stored on your harddrive. If it was cloud gayming you would have a point, but you dont.
>>743373391im not gonna quote 50 posts
>>743373296>why are Steam users so fucking deranged?They are just dumb. Any Steam user with a brain has already either partially or fully switched to GOG.
>>743368904Steamies genuinely act like console fanboys that's why they are befuddled when normal people are videogame fans and not videogame store fans.
>>743372097>You can't access and install a game from gog without connecting to gog servers either. I can take an offline installer put it on a thumb drive, plug the thumb drive in to 20 different PCs, and install the game.To do the same with a Steam game I would need to>install the steam client>log in with my account>download the game through the steam client>launch the game through the steam client while online to enable the use of offline mode>enable offline mode and make sure the PC will never go back online while Steam is running because steam still has to run for offline mode to function>repreat this process on all 20 PCs
Does GoG not still sell games that have their own online dependencies built in? Having the game on a shiny piece of plastic means nothing if when you install it still says 'Cannot connect to central server'
>>743373296>UH WHY DON'T YOU LOVE GOG YET WE COME HERE AND SHIT UP THE BOARD TELLING YOU HOW TO THINK EVERY DAY AND YOU STILL BUY GAMES ON STEAM WHY ARE YOU SO MAD THAT I KEEP BEING AN ANNOYING FAGGOTGee I wonder. I'd never give a single cent to GOG, especially after they bent the knee to china proving they're performative and never actually cared.
>>743373514where did i even say anything about GOG? you are so fucking mindbroken that you make up scenarios in your head like a lunatic
>>743368957I never had to interact with anybody when I purchase games from GOG because it's entirely an online experience, dummy.
>>743372238EA crawled back to Steam and delisted their entire own store , but yet Steam still has no issues selling you EA games that you MUST install the EA app to play, along with Denuevo, or Enigma or countless DRM bullshit.And then the drones who never used a PC before 2015 will giddly talk about how Steam "saved PC gaming" from the hell hole of CD keys and DRM by just force installing all of it themselves instead making the user do it
>>743373296It is a semi-DRM platform, It is a revocable license platform, but it's a damn good platform all around and that's why people use it. Its also the only platform where most indie games are released exclusively, so if I want to buy the game and archive it, I'll have to buy it on steam. And GoG is also a revocable license platform too.Steam also has direct integration with system launching and installing of games, so I can use zaparoo with an NFC sticker. I'm not going to put steam branding on my physical PC cases, but I will buy from steam if thats the only place to get the game.As a company, I don't trust valve and their business model as I dont know what the future holds, but I like their platform.I'm not going to fully trust valve, I most definitely will be archiving and backing up my games both physically and on a NAS.
>>743368646>Why didn't we suppoet GoG Speak for yourself
>>743373497>>install the steam client>>log in with my account>>download the game through the steam client>>launch the game through the steam client while online to enable the use of offline mode>>enable offline mode and make sure the PC will never go back online while Steam is running because steam still has to run for offline mode to function>>repreat this process on all 20 PCsNo? You do realize this option exist, right?Also why did you skip the part where you need to open browser, log in to gog and download the installer and then plug that thumb drive to every single of that 20 PCs?If you want to make proper comparison then stay honest. Otherwise you look like a pathetic fanboy.
>>743373715Dammit, thanks for reminding me to add Metal Slug to my GOG wishlist.
>>743373719Because you don't need to download the installer 20 times retard. Just like you don't need to press a new DVD to lend your friend a PS2 game, because you fucking own the game and there is no middleman preventing you.Go back up your install of a steam game and try to launch it without the client installed, or move it to a different hard drive without verifying the files through the client see how DRM free steam is
>>743368646CDP could have chosen to make it better.They didn't. That Galaxy client is just awful.
>>743368948So he can sell it off to the highest bidder.
>>743368720>>743369076>Putting the cuck in PCWhy are steam fags like this?
>>743368718I always check for games there first, but I guess a lot of devs don't like the store front (letting customer's own their game is scary). But I was at least able to buy all of the Kiseki series off GOG, even the newest ones go there.
>>743368646too bad we can't afford physical storage anymore
>>743374369so it's not owned by the Chinese government like you said. Got it.
>>743368646Because there are no games to buy on gog. 90% of It's catalogue are shitty abandonwares no one cares about, and the other 10% games dont fucking work without community patches (Rayman 2..). Dont blame the customer that they're not buying, If you are not selling anything. No, not gonna pretend I care about some obscure rts from 40 years ago, no I am not gonna pay for fucking dosbox roms. This shit is a funny trip, but not a serious storefront which is strange because most games come out on Steam without wrapped drm, so I blame gog for not advertising themselves properly to publishers.
>>743372671Hey hold on, back in the 360 days could you just download the game on an external after renting it from blockbuster or the library?
>GOG installers are DRM free>Steam games may or may not have DRM>DRM doesn't affect me, so I buy from the better store
>>743369868Gog willfully ban you amd revoke your license for wrong think and beyond that their installers only last until the next windows or your storage fails. All my steam shit is cracked and backed up too, so is my gog shit
>>743373963>without verifying the files through the clientIt doesn't verify on adding cached directories. It just accepts them.
>>743373019>And I can't imagine how many you'd need for a modern 40gb game.One. Blu rays go up to 50GB, and if you're making physical disks of modern games in current year you're using blu ray.
>>743379776You got enough juice in the time machine to get back to 2010?
>>743368754SAUGEN SIE DAS AUSLINIEN EINSTELLER VON JEDER VON IHRER SPIELE AUF GOG, SPEICHERN ES ZU EINEM SCHEIBENDATENTRÄGER UND ES IST IHRES FÜR IMMER JAWOHL
>install all your games you bought on steam>put steam into offline mode>play your games forever offline and no one can touch them
>>743383883>can't play online without steaminto the trash
>>743383883LOL Steam sissies are this delusional.
>>743368646Am I allowed to sell this disc?This is the question GOGfags don't want you to ask.
>>743383883good luck if you ever need to transfer them offline to a new drive
>>743387675if you sell it, you are forfeiting the ability to use the gamesame logic as a drm free game
>>743385976why lie?
>>743368646Does GOG's Devil May Cry collection support the Crimson mod? I will buy it on there immediately if it does.
>>743368904Steamoids literally are console fanboys
>>743368646GOG wanted regional and fair pricing.They also wanted to make a proper currency exchange so a $60 game wouldn't cost €60 but ~€52 but (((They))) didn't like that
>>743388293Epic, Steam and publishers nuked that.
The majority do not care about physical or “owning” their games, gog is slightly higher price, steam has the better store and “service” it was trendier sexier more social (even though hardly no one uses it to socialize or game together) from the start, everyone bought in to be a part of the crowd and get in on the dopamine and it links right to your discord to tell all your internet friends what you’re playing and the truth is gamers are MOSTLY a bunch of “look at me!” discord faggots
>>743387983What do you mean by support? You can mod GOG games perfectly fine. You just have to know how to install mods.
>>743368646I don't necessarily think that getting rid of physical games is a bad thing, but only in the cases of Steam and GoG. Literally every other game console creator and PC game vendor is going to abuse that fact and tighten their grip on what a customer's ability to trade games and to sell games outside their purview. It's only a net negative in that case, which is why I don't bother with said goods and services.
>>743387675I seriously doubt they care so long as you aren’t opening up a whole ass store and being flagrant about it
>>743388573I assume GOG's version is different than a pirated version. I know a lot of modders expect people to run games on Steam and don't prepare for GOG which is where my concern comes from.Link btw: https://dmc3crimson.github.io, files required is pic related.
>>743368646ok but like why would I do that when it's already on a disk? is being on a removable disc specifically that much of a big deal to you tards?
>>743387675Why would anyone buy that fisk when they can just buy the game on GOG and make their own disc while also having the game stored on the GOG servers. Games on GOG sales drop below 1$ per games. I literally bought all the OG Hitman games for a few bucks. So unless you fing someone to scam i don't see you selling your discs.
>>743388873You're kinda dumb. We've had modding before Steam existed and i've never needed Steam to mod my GOG games. GOG games are just pure game without Steam and DRM bloat.
>>743368646Because it was owned by CDPR (Blackrock subsidiary) until recently.
>>743369892>It's not just a matter of workshop supportwow it's almost like he didn't even say it was solely for workshop huh? almost like he specifically went out of his way to say 'SUCH AS workshop support'. fucking illiterate retard
>>743389096I don't know much about technology man there might be some magic DRM check or something that modders integrate into the games. If all mods truly work 1:1 then the GOG sale is a steal.
>>743369793>none of those have steam workshop supportpatently false but yeah by all means keep making uninformed claims
>>743368720>no one cares about owning something they purchase
>>743368646I own more game on gog than steam, all my gog installers are safely stored on hard drives (for now)
>>743372586I heard that Trump was demanding Indonesia to remove their local payment systems in favor of Master Card and Visa during the whole tariff saga.
>>743368646I want to switch to GOG but is there any way to get these games working on Linux that isn't a massive pain in the ass?
>>743389626This is good. What you need to do now is make DVDs of your favorite games and pimp them up with custom DVD boxes, print the manuals that come with most older GOG games and put the pimped up versions on your shelves.
>>743369084Some of them are, i recently bought arcania gothic 4 on steam and literally can't run it through steam, i had to make a shortcut to exe in game folder to play it.Though I prefer gog, it works as God intended
>>743368646cuz you still have to accept the liscense agreementat this point the only 2 options are piracy and buying used gamesyou could buy digital from valve but theyll shut you off eventually if you dont update osin their defence tho win 8 steam works in july 2026 with only 1 patch added lol so could be worse
>>743389674Hard to say since i am yet to have a PC with linux but i think people were talking about wine and heroic launcher? You should check the GOG forums i'm sure that someone will be able to tell you what exactly people are using.
>>743389785>bought arcania gothic 4Why would you do that?
>>743369084also you can go on gamecopy world and crack all your steam games i plan on doing that its fully legal to keep using them on win 7 and 8
>>743389785>i recently bought arcania gothic 4 on steamDon't buy older games on Steam. Most of them are not fixed and barely work. People should've learned this when Steam was selling broken Fallout 3 while the GOG version was the one working.
>>743389827I'm too dumb to understand 90% of the stuff there but I'll try. It's a miracle I even learned how to install Linux but Windows 11 is such predatory nonsense that I'm literally learning just to avoid ever touching Windows again.
>>743389859It was less than a buck
>>743389884Stramies are the trannies of the gaming world. Retarded and delusional.
>>743368646People don't care about owning games, they just like to hoard trash.
>>743392104People don't have any amount of foresight and don't realize that Steam going to shit is just one CEO away. The world becomes so easy to predict once you realize that.
