>game is themed around war and death>all violence is extremely sanitized>nobody ever bleeds, and if they do it's censored black blood>there is no war or politics actually, just a mustache twirling one-dimensional group of copy-pasted bad guys awkwardly named after the alphabet>death means nothing as characters are immediately reincarnated upon death and can even be aged back up for plot convenience as nothing ever happened
>>743373246GOD I hated Xenoblade 3
>>743373246The 10 year system is actually good, because it means eventually you will live a life where you are successful, unlike the corrupt conservative one we live in right now where the deck is stacked against you and you will never end up on top.
>>743374439>t.Shania
>xenoblade raped by nintendo>xenosaga raped by snoy and bamcomonolith soft had a hard life
>>743373246no civilians nor children are killed as well
>>743373246So, Xenoblade?
>>743373246XB3 was total dogshit.
>>743374439>>743374503samefag
The game isn't actually about war and death. It's about the FEAR of death, and facing it. Mio's impending death drives Noah's obsession. N's fear of M's death drove his descent. Humanity's collective fear of death created Aionios and Moebius. Ouroboros willing to face that fear and press on anyway sets things in motion once more.
>XB3 BAD because...>....ITS NOT G.O.T!!!Whut
This bait thread is so bad its dying within a hour.
>>743373246Wild how 1 and 2 had fantastic antagonists then they went to the rancid dogshit cartoon villain of the week crap that was Moebius. 3 was a fucking disaster in general and I still have no idea what they were thinking. And no muh cobid doesn't excuse it.
>they already got bored in their dead general and came back to /v/ to post shitty bait hahahahahahahahah
>>743373246Yeah it’s rated T sadly. Xenoblade 1 had some blood.
>>743375407>Who is Xord, Mumkhar, Lorithia, Bana, Torna save for Malos and Jin, that guy in the Gormotti main mission...
>>743373246not an issue in nortubel
Xenoblade 3 can be improved by adding Mythra's kid!
>>743376001Posted it again award
>>743376001Nah, just add KOS MOS as a send off for CHOCO.
>>743376001hikari*
You think the discord jeetroons will stop being obssessed about XB3 when New Genesis releases?
>>743376001D is already in the game
>>743376267But naturally. They've been doing this since OG X. Or so I've heard.
>>743373246Mio SEXOOO
>>743373246Not to mention the game was really bad
>>743376093I have received that award many times!>>743376159KOS MOS is already in 2. They need to show Mythra's kid to complete the trinity.>>743376254Same thing>>743376290I hate Dirk theory so much...!!
>>743374739Didn't play the game award
>>743376494>KOS MOS is already in 2.So was Nia and Rex.
>>743373246I vaguely remember one weird instance of red blood. Doesn’t Ghondor bleed red?>>743376404Also this.
>>743376873>Doesn’t Ghondor bleed red?No it was black. I think the only instances of blood was Noah wounding his knuckles and a few mentions of it at the start.
>>743375445They’re both rated T.
>>743373246OMGHi Mio!
>>743377156It was 2010. Censors weren't sissies back then.
I do not care for Mio
>>743376494You hate it because it's true.
>>743377292
>>743374996The "fear of death" theme is undermined when Ethel can die, revived, and aged back up again. >b-but what about her memories?Doesn't matter. If we, the player, see the same character coming back, it trivializes the games' themes.
>>743376254
Breeding Mio
>>743374996It’s more fear of change, with one of those changes being death.
>>743377391Anon, the ones fearing death are Moebius and its their motivation for why they abuse the soldiers and wants to maintain their immortalitt.
>>743377258They absolutely were. Did you forget about No More Heroes and how CERO butchered it by removing the butchery?
>>743373246Yeah, the game was very insipid.
>>743377391Ethel has no fear of death. That's why she's admired by Ouroboros as a mentor figure. Fear doesn't control her, she willingly marched onward into her grave, choosing how she went out.And the revelation that all the soldiers are clones changes that fear from a personal fear into a collective fear. It became about humanity's fear of death, which is personified as Moebius and Z.
>>743377818There is a world of defense between showing a bloodied claw and outright gore.
>>743377987*World of difference.
>>743377632And that message is undercut when Noah just gets to go back to the real world and live happily ever after with Mio. He didn't lose anything.
The thing that annoys me about XB3 the most is that they have abandoned Mio and Noah's romantic storyline after chapter 5 and turned them into generic mouthpieces for the story's themes. No fucking way Noah would just accept being torn away from her in the ending.Speaking of the ending, that's among the shittiest jrpg endings i've seen and probably the worst out of all Xeno games.
>>743378137>turned them into generic mouthpieces for the story's themes.They did that to everyone in the party.
>743378063
>>743378198>seething so hard he won't even reply to the post that made him mad Yep, that's how you know someone is genuinely mad.
The antagonists in 3 were pathetic. I'm genuinely in awe they thought DJ were compelling in any way or fashion. Even N, the character the entire game hinges on, was horribly mistreated and shoved into a dusty corner for 2 chapters before a pathetically weak finale.
>>743378186Mouthpieces would imply they even got to talk. Everyone just goes mute. Origin was as quiet as a grave.Keeping the world separation ending as a twist was the single worst idea in the game and I think they only did that because the entire last act of the game was literally nothing.
>>743378893Yeah, contrast with 1 and 2, where the entire last third of the game is nothing but talking and revelation about what exactly happened before the worlds came to be. Honestly, this is the fault of them thinking they could have their cake and eat it too. They wanted a game that would be a sequel to 1 and 2, while at the same time, not explaining anything about 1 and 2 so that people wouldn't be pressed to have played those two games. However, anyone that DID play those games wants people to talk about it, the whole relation between the games should have been the pay off, the catharsis. Instead it falls flat into nothing. Even if someone that didn't play 1 and 2 goes back and plays 1 and 2, then they still don't get the pay off for 3. If anything it feels worse.
>>7433791082's finale was insanely well directed, i had my doubts about the game, but the entire final portion was one non-stop cinema. Wonder why Takahashi managed to shit the bed so badly.
>>743379306I think he got bored and stopped caring. They were already deep into Legacy at that point, which is now Xenoblade Genesis after Nintendo’s IP lawyers told Takahashi to fuck off when he asked to register a new trademark. So maybe Genesis just got all the love and attention.
>>743373246>all violence is extremely sanitizedThey can't show kids getting shot in the head and decapitated, both of which are explicitly alluded, on camera and keep a T-rating>nobody ever bleeds, and if they do it's censored black bloodOHNONONONO, SONYBROS, DON'T LOOKThe older more mature Xenosaga games have been censored since inception, it's not a Blade exclusive thing. If anything Monolithsoft just went with the black blood to be visceral while not needing to censor anything exclusively for the West
>>743373384>>743374876>>743377916>>743378657>>743379306Yes we know Enel you've been raiding this board with your trooncord for a decade informing us that 2 is a masterpiece and every other Xeno game is worthless dogshit. You don't even like this series but spend your entire life talking about it and it living rent free in your schizo head. Take your meds.
>>743379510>They were already deep into Legacy at that point, which is now Xenoblade Genesis after Nintendo’s IP lawyers told Takahashi to fuck off when he asked to register a new trademark. Amazing headcanon, anon
>>743379624Meds
>>743374657To date, Nintendo is the only publisher that has released an actually finished Xenogame. Nobody else in this godforsaken industry has made it happen.
>>743379696None of that is headcanon. We know Genesis was Legacy from the debug string left in the trailer and Takahashi was bitching about not being able to get the publisher greenlight for anything not-Xenoblade years ago.
>>743373246cry harder
>>743380270Yes, but to do so they had to make them more superficial
>>743380421That's entirely headcanon and conjecture. It's a realistic explanation, sure but all the prior Blade games had codenames, the other none numbered entry, X's codename was "spacetravel". That's concrete evidence in itself that Legacy was always intended to be a Blade game.
Btw in japanese PW episode 2 isn't called Genesis
>>743380953No it’s just less edgy. All of the philosophy, cosmology, and gnostic nonsense is still there. I swear people discount Xenoblade solely because the game is actually good and finished. Clearly thematic elements only land when there’s nothing else to talk about because the game is miserable and forever incomplete, which is why we’re talking about Xenoblade 3’s themes.
>>743373246>bootleg chat gpt conduit wants what's best for humanity>humanity starts screeching and shitting and pissing and cumming themselves as the worlds collide>claude plays pokemon has no idea what to do with all their fucked up terrorized schizo commands>decides instead to put everyone in timeout ville>bugs out because Tora wasted too many resources generating AI slop porn of Pyra>timeout ville comes with glitched ways for them to deal with their fears>it ends up being pointless warring>as it turns out all AI are theaterfags so it decides to be the ringleader of this clown circus since it has nothing else to dobeing unidimentional, boring sanitized one note villain world works because it was never the point of Origin to be fuck off evil. the wars, child soldiers and the MASSIVE LACK OF SEX AND BREEDING is an enormous misunderstanding that snowballed Origin into the mustache twirling villain it is.
>>743381775>"It's boring and shitty on purpose!"Very compelling argument.
>>743381731In Xenogears, Krelian isn't just some boss you beat, he's a character given this massive sense of dignity. And Fei reaches his existentialist breakthrough only after coming to terms with the matricide and genocide he actually committed. Meanwhile, in Xenoblade 3, Z is just an abstract concept, and in Xenoblade 2, the whole existential/hopeful vibe is put on a kid with the "power of friendship". Maybe calling it "superficial" was a bit much, and you can definitely argue for how strong Xenoblade is, but the structural differences are objectively there
>>743382349Everything you’re talking about is the superficial stuff. Not the core “big ideas” and how they’re actually explored and conveyed.
Xenoblade 3's "grand themes" are undermined by how retarded and infantile the setting is, next time try not to make a game with magic clones and a machine that rebuilds universes using light or making the big bad the concept of the fear of death and personifying it as a dude who likes to watch movies because it's amusing. MIO IT'S FEELINGS
>>743381469Is it just Japanese to the same effect?
>>743384556it just says "the first era" because it's the era where humans first appear in the xenogears planet
>>743373246>heartfelt and emotional scene when someone dies>Mio: "I know. Let's play the song of our queen">fweeeeeeee toottoottoot
>>743373246The more detailed an anime waifu's gloves are, the more I know the game's story isn't worth anything. This has yet to fail me.
>>743385095>they played the sad flute song for Joran's mud puppets >Shania died in front of the party twice and they didn't send her off either time It's still hilarious.
>>743373246Cool jacket
>>743385197Can they even send cityfolk? The city people leave behind “real” corpses don’t they?
>>743374439Modern conservatives are more liberal than liberals five years ago.>>743375062More like because it's just 2 but not as good.
>>743385327No, there's a side quest where someone from the city dies and they turn into motes.
>>743380270Not true. No matter how complete it seems, a Xeno game is never truly finished.
>>743385582Is there a truly finished game? FFIX isn't finished either
>>743380953Gears' overall lore and story is dense and fairly deep, but the actual scenarios you witness in-game are incredibly basic as well as playing out fast even in disc 1 to the point where nothing really sticks in your mind beyond the concept of what's going on and some shock value moments. Blade is superficial in other ways but the moment to moment stuff is done much better than in Gears. Saga did a slightly better job but alternates between dragging its heels and rushing things.
>>743373246Possibly the most censored game ever made
>>743382349Krelian was a jealous simp lmao
>>743385095>heartfelt and emotional scene when someone dies>Mio: "I know. Let's do a barve."
>>743379306I think intergrating the other games in whilst making it in a way that you didn't need to play the other games in the series to follow what was going on tied their hands too much and ended up constraining what they could do with the plot too much.
Xenoblade 3 = 1 > 2 for me. I have yet to play X too, but I'll correct this soon.Too bad most of the real xenobros left after the Genesis' trailer wave ended.
>>743385738FFIX is woeful. Perfect first couple and last couple hours, middling everything else with great environments and character designs. I think they just had more ideas than they had time for or knew what to do with, the four dungeons with the fiends being a prime example.
>>743377391Anon the fear of death is why the whole cycle system materializes in the first place, and it is depicted as a bad thing that you unite the entire world against to put an end to it
>>743385768Could you give some examples? Because it seems subjective to me. I don't think the fact that it's extremely dense and fast paced is a flaw.>>743385850With reductionism, so is Ivan Karamazov
I really like the story, even thought the ending was underwhelming. The snow zone should have been longer imo.
>The schizo is backGoddamnit I thought he died, we had some decent threads for a minute
>>743387061What schizo?
>>743386494It's hard to describe because I'm not that into writing analysis but after 5th gen, game stoeies became increasingly decompressed so the closest analogy I can think of, while saying nothing else about its story, is FF7R compared to the original. Like you have characters chit-chatting or new cutscenes in areas that were straightforward in the original and stuff. In Gears you are given pretty much just exactly the information you need to understand a scene and not much else, they don't stretch it out aside from the amount of time gameplay takes or if you go around talking to everybody, it's very economical but that also makes it kind of predictable in some points because it's mostly following anime tropes that the writers liked, aside from when some lore stuff happens. One example I think of sometikes is when Elly's dad dies, they telegraph it a bit too obviously in my opinion and you barely spend any time with him so it just fell flat to me. I don't dislike the game for being simple on the surface because it's like the story equivalent of characters being recognizable silhouettes, they're all memorable (yes, even Rico) and have strong characterization, it's just that it's like watching only the story episodes of an anime and none of the filler where you would get to see characters flesh out some more when the plot isn't happening.
>>743387073The one that does nothing but search for any mention of Xenoblade 3 on the website and goes on for like 40 posts talking to himself about how it's the worst game of all timeIt got REALLY bad
>>743376001I never played Xenoblade 3 but I did play 2. But I do know enough to know that one redheaded girl is supposed to be Pyras, and Mio is Nia's apparently, but where is Mythras?
>>743373246Sounds retarded when you type it out like that. I enjoyed the mystery and the story up to the M body switch scene. It was cool seeing the characters see a baby for the first time
peng on a levnis, the consuls in the sidequests have been so shitty
>>743387208Well, I made this thread and I'm not that person you're talking about. I'm not even sure I ever made a Xenoblade 3 thread. If I did it was probably once around the time I beat it a few years ago.I'm not even saying the game is trash, I'd give it a 8/10. There are some genuinely good scenes. I like everything with Mio and Noah, they're one of my favorite video game couples. The baby scene in the city was very memorable, I rewatch it every once in a while. The Moebius are trash for the most part, but I like N in the base game (thought he was a bit of a Gary Stu in the DLC), and I do find S one of the better sympathetic villains. Also the soundtrack and environments are phenomenal, every once in a while I load the game at Aurora Shelf/Cent-Omnia Region near the Saffronia tree and just enjoy the visuals and music.
>>743387129I understand that perspective, but in my opinion, it's also a matter of tone. The characters never really get a moment to breathe. In fact, when they reach Elly’s house, there's a clear emphasis on how they finally have a moment to relax. The same goes for the bed scene in Disc 2, and I think the scene with Fei and Elly on the Thames, or Bart with Sigurd, also contribute to this feeling. These are isolated exceptions that, by contrast, show there’s just no time for fillers. At least, that's my take.
>>743373384Fibber bibber and /thread and all that shit. We all agree that XC3 is the worst Nintendo game of all time besides BOTW. We’re so mad that we can’t stop talking about it. We want this to be immediately pulled from sale due to how bad it is.
>>743373246Is this about Fire Emblem Fates where you win an entire war without killing anyone?
>>743387760I think time could be made for filler but I also respect the game for not trying to waste time.
>>743375062I didn't say the game should necessarily be edgy. I just think that if you decide to add war, death, etc. to your game, then you should commit to that.
>>743387301>I enjoyed the mystery and the story up to the M body switch scene.That's pretty much the most common consensus. I personally enjoyed it until you get to Nia's secret base. I liked the resolution of N's story arc, Z's boss fight and the ending, but everything in between those like Origin itself or the origin shard collectathon felt rushed.
xb3 is unironically too highbrow for the average vidya consumer.
>>743376267No but they’ll be drowned out again by everyone playing the new game.
>>743373246>>death means nothing as characters are immediately reincarnated upon death and can even be aged back up for plot convenience as nothing ever happenedThe other ones are excusable, but this one is not. Even Sesame Street has characters die permanently.
>>743388016They did.
>>743388285Be careful anon, you're about to overdose on all that copium.
>>743380270Why do they always remaster or DLC the Xenoblade games then
>>743388576To have the entire franchise on one console.
>>743388576I don’t think anyone was complaining that Xenoblade was incomplete without a Mario Kart mode. Monolith Soft just seems to like adding stuff.
>>743377608>no Mio wife that would purr in the crook of your neck
>>743377608>>743389195If it's literally just ears then it's not an actual cat girl, simple as.
>>743388285Considering the fact that Takahashi was a bit confused by some of the questions in the Aionios Records artbook Q&A, stating that most of them were directly answered in the game and since /v/ asked a lot of equally dumb questions, you might be correct
>>743389195Wtf happened between Gondhor's generation and Matthew's? Na'el is stupid AF and Matthew can't into grammar.
>>743389794Or the writing just isn't as good as he and his glazers think it is.
>>743389794I remember reading it with the bros back then.I remember how we (or at least I) theorized that the entire party of 1 + Kino and Nene were in L7. Turns out only Fiora was in the sword. We had so much fun when this was revealed kek.
>>743390479>the brosYou mean your dead general?
>>743390642no, me. I'm his bro.
>>743389794It's pretty obvious he suffers from a bit of that shit just existing in his head and just assuming everyone else can read his mind
>>743387292Play the game and find out retard.
>>743389794>>743390479Even other Japanese staff were surprised by the Fiora bullshit, so fair to say it just wasn't set up properly.
>>743387292Nowhere. They don't exist.
>>743387292Not in the game apart from a photo reference at the end.
>>743390875>spoonfeeding Kys.
>>743390857>Riku telling Matthew that "important people" are in L7.>The sword is made of metal who contain souls.>Shulk and Rex were shown to slash flame clocks just fine like A or Noah and Matthew with L7 and the Ouroboros Knuckles respectively>They, with A, took Alpha's place and used their admin rights to abolish Nikol and Glimmer's life limiters. They even mirror the ZYX trio.You have plenty of stuff to figure out Fiora being in the sword and the logic it granting Noah sudo powers.
>>743391145Like I said, the other Japanese staff didn't even know about it. If people who worked on the game didn't know about it then it's fair to say it wasn't really set up.
3 is trash, it had potential until that fat kid got squished
>>743391145Why are glazers like this?
>>743375395Looks like you were wrong lmao.
>>743391203So what? Christopher Nolan didn't understood what his brother meant when the latter wrote "You either die a hero or you live long enough to become the villain". Its just bound to happen in works where multiple peoples work on them.How does that contradict anything that I said?They are in the game, and most of them are main scenario material, aside from the Riku conversation.
>>743391481>most of them are main scenario material>shulk, rex, nikol, glimmer, a, alphaWhat did he mean by this?
>>743391481>Christopher Nolan didn't understood what his brother meant when the latter wrote "You either die a hero or you live long enough to become the villainHow in the fuck is that even comparable?
>>743391614I meant the main scenario of FR. The Riku conversation is a missable optional dialogue.
>>743391727>Its just bound to happen in works where multiple peoples work on them.Spoonfeeding the post just above because you are blind.The handicapped people needs help after all.
>>743391873But it's not. And in this case Takahashi is literally the only one who knew, so safe to say he just kinda invented it in his head.
>>743385327You must be an advanced level of retard.
>>743391939>The game may have hints and the head poncho may confirm it.>But it doesn't count because those people didn't know!
>>743392230More like, you're reaching just so you can keep glazing.
>>743392337Anon, the man itself was surprised that people were asking questions that you could already guess from the game, if not already answered.Also, most people actually guessed that Logos was in N's sword, which Takahashi confirmed. Meaning that a lot of details and hints were intended.
>>743392531>the hints on this other thing prove that there was set up for this other unrelated thing Huh?
>>743373246>bad guys awkwardly named after the alphabetHey just like in real life!
>>743392531Logos being in there is understandable because it's a very powerful sword on par with the other two in the series known to be powered up by a trinity processor. What's completely out of left field is Fiora's soul being in there. What's it doing in there, and why Fiora specifically? Obviously Shulk, Rex, Melia, Nia, and Poppi are out of the question since they were active in Aionios, but what about Sharla, Zeke, Morag, Dunban, etc.?
>>743392673heh
>>743373246If you're expecting a good story, Xenoblade is the wrong place to look.
>>743392701>What's completely out of left field is Fiora's soul being in there. What's it doing in there, and why Fiora specifically?Melia put it in there. That's explained by Riku. Because Fiora is Melia's best friend.>but what about Sharla, Zeke, Morag, Dunban, etc.?Simply not spawned in Aionios like the rest.
>>743392986Genesis will be good.
>>743395235After how bad 3 was? Nope.
>>743395419It’s going to have the dramatic highs of 3 with actually good plotting now that they aren’t beholden to some kind of misguided trilogy payoff. It’s going to be good. Really good.
>>743373246>>there is no war or politics actually, just a mustache twirling one-dimensional group of copy-pasted bad guys awkwardly named after the alphabetJust like real life.
>>743395878>the dramatic highs of 3?
I love every Xenoblade game for different reasons and I will love Genesis too. Every game is worth playing even if some aspects are better or worse between games
>>743396383>don't think just consoom
>>743395972As someone who thought 3 was just 'okay', I have to admit, I did get caught up in at the very least Chapter 5's climax.Boy, was it down hill from there though. Really, every other 'emotional climax' was kinda meh.
>>743396412I didn't say they're above criticism, just that I like all of them and I trust Monolith to do a good job. I remember I wrote off Xenoblade 2 for a long time because I didn't like the change in artstyle from 1, but then I eventually gave it a shot and ended up really enjoying it
>>743396429I loved the Chapter 5 climax as well. N's meltdown was glorious. >Noah... My long shadow... You have stolen her away from me... I will extinguish you, and take her back! Mio is MINE! She's not yours, she's mine! You are nothing. She belongs only to ME!But one thing I find annoying in scenes like this is how easily your party who was captured just turns around and easily beats the guards that were detaining them. It looks stupid.
>>743396429I'm not a Miofag so I didnt care
>>743377397Holy shit. Saved.
>>743397363
xenoblade 2 has a horrible localization it blows my mind that they changed the entire story like that
>>7433959723 had the big emotional and tearjerker scenes that the rest of the series doesn’t really have.
>>743398941>big emotional and tearjerker scenesNot really. 2's ending was more emotional.
>>743398941This scene always gets me for some reason. Poppi is adorable.
>>743399102Poppi crying really did hurt.
>>743397020 >But one thing I find annoying in scenes like this is how easily your party who was captured just turns around and easily beats the guards that were detaining them. It looks stupid.Bigly agree.Just going down the list of emotional peaks I can remember.>Vandam dying after turning the party into OuroborosKinda meh. Not only do we not really get to know him or become attached to him as a character, anyone familiar with the Xeno franchise knows that any character named Vandam will die eventually.>Fusing into the various Ouroboros forms for the first timePretty cool>Noah cutting the Flame ClockAnime as fuck>Mio losing her shit at being so close to deathPretty sad>Cammuravi and Ethel's suicide Really fucking stupid 2bh. Did not like>Finding Nia and her getting one shotObvious fake out>Joran's reveal and sacrificeNot that compelling>Shania suicideFunny>"Who wants to learn about babies?"Pretty funny>Every reveal about Z or AioniosTrash>X and Y's fatesTrash>N's backstoryFunny in a pathetic way, but also doesn't make a lot of sense>Chrys revealLameUhh...That's all I got. The ending was sad too, I'll give it that. But I was more swayed by the events in Future Redeemed.
>>743389075>I don’t think anyone was complaining that Xenoblade was incomplete without a Mario Kart modespeaking of that i wonder if monolith just ported some of the code they used for MKWlike, simply because they could, just because it was amusingthe vehicle stuff is neat and surprisingly fun, but it honestly seems pretty random
>>743401108Almost certainly not. More likely it’s prototyping they were doing for the mounts in Genesis on the older engine, and somebody thought it was fun enough to flesh out into a full minigame.
>>743399909I agree with most of these, especially >Cammuravi and Ethel's suicide>Really fucking stupid 2bh. Did not likeI'm told it's a cultural thing, and it has something to do with bushido, but I found that scene very, very disappointing. Didn't land with me at all. Especially given how sexy and big booba Ethel is. If she did anything remotely cool I'd be all over it, but sadly she didn't deliver. I feel the same way about Patroka. As a massive Tifafag, any black-haired long-haired woman designed by Nomura instantly grabs my attention. But her character was so annoying and lame that she's my least favorite XB2 character. They really screwed up.>Joran's reveal and sacrifice>Not that compellingAgreed. That didn't land at all. Which is disappointing considering he was part of Noah/Lanz/Eunie's gang. You'd think he'd be a big deal, but he was really lame. I thought Shania's story was a lot more compeling. The thing about her parents being your stereotypical Asian parents, I'm pretty sure a lot of people could relate to that. I'm not even Asian, nor my parents were strict in anyway, but I could still feel for her.
>>743373246Its almost like, this game is made for CHILDREN like our cartoons when we were kid. No one ever dies, and the villain also always gets away while shaking his fist and yelling "I'll get you next time!"Take the hint and move on. Its not for you.
>>743402073Yes, but how many of these cartoons were themed around war and death? That's the issue.
>>743402073Yeah, these games are definitely meant for teenagers.If there's any Nintendo mandates at all it's probably for the games to keep a T ESRB rating (and whatever is the CERO equivalent.)But they sure were pushing it with Shania's off camera suicide and D's decapitated head collection.
>>743373246>>743373384seriously this was such a fucking disappointment, my god
>>743399774I didn't even really feel sad about the girls choosing to sacrifice themselves because I could understand the motive, but seeing Poppi fucking lose it because she absolutely hated being held to her promise and feeling like she was betraying Rex was some genuinely distressing shit
>>743402831What's disappointing about these two hotties?
>>743397020>>743399909They're supposed to be mentally/emotionally broken at that point and were utterly cowed, they were losing Mio with no way to save her whatsoever, once the fakeout got revealed they're still absurdly strong animu bullshit protagonists being restrained by fucking grunts
>>743373246>nobody ever bleeds, and if they do it's censored black bloodnintendo game?cdont think anyone even bleeds in 1, 2 or x either. why is this an issue? >death means nothing as characters are immediately reincarnated upon death and can even be aged back up for plot convenience as nothing ever happenedthere are like less than 5 characters that this happens to, and its not even relevant to the overall plot. >there is no war or politics actually, just a mustache twirling one-dimensional group of copy-pasted bad guys awkwardly named after the alphabetwhat does this even mean? In game, politics wouldn't be relevant because Ouroboros is an outlaw group. And if you mean as an allegory, did you miss the fact that Mobius (or basically Z) created a world and then manufactured an oppressive system so tight that there was no effective way to stop it? Only for entertainment?
>>7434049451) The version I played of XB1 (Wii) had blood, I clearly remember Fiora's blood on Metal Face's claws when he stabbed her. Regardless, XB1's theme wasn't about death, the setting was organic lifeforms vs machines, Bionis vs. Mechonis, I don't think the premise really needed blood as much as XB3's2) If one character came back from the death, that would be enough to undermine any death scene3) Moebius are quite lame as villains, no matter how much you try to spin it
>>743401950I will say I'm glad they gave us Ethel back, kinda. Same body and attitude, just a memory reset, so she felt kinda hollow afterward. But at least she still got them fat tittays. Felt bad for Bolearis though, seeing his old captain but only getting a flimsy "Must have been the wind" tier comment on her walking around clear as day again. Also, BolearisXEthel>CammuraviXEthel. I really thought Cammuravi was kinda lame. We didn't get to know him very well and aside from his design, he's just>Muh Warrior's WayI also liked Shania's story. Kinda wish she got more screen time being a loser trying to help the party before her heelturn.I also totally forgot to mention in my list>Lanz and Sena's kamikazi stuntThat shit did NOT hit. It felt very forced, like the writers knew these two, especially Sena, hadn't done anything noteworthy in a while plus their partnership was the most shallow, so they needed to give them a 'big moment'. Didn't buy it for a second. The more I think about it, the more I'm starting to think Shania should have been the 6th party member instead of Sena. Clearly some of the writers also thought so since Sena's personal side story just ended up being closure for Shania and Ghondor instead of having fuck all to do with her.
>>743406440Shania a shit
the english dub for 2 is so bad i would rather insert live shit covered ants in my ears
>>743406762same for 3 to be honest and it really sucks that whatever audio you choose we still get dubtitles nonetheless, so you get shit like>Eunie: speaking like a normal anime girl>Subtitles: OY LADS WE GOTTA PLAY SOME FOOTIE AND SCORE SOME GOALS, QUEEN'S FEATHER'S ME BUTT IS HURTIN' LADS
>>743406762agreed
>>743406923>OY IF 'E DON WIN DA CUP NOA' IMMA HAVE A RIOT I AM
GIT EN ME MINGE WREX
>>743377391>can die, revived, and aged back up again1. She lost all of her memories and experiences (or most of them2. The process for aging them up is very risky and there is a reason she is the only one who ever has this happen.
>>743407045OY TARNISHED! GIT YER ARSE OVER HEA
if you played dub you deserve the ear cancer
>>743373246the moment they kill Mio and nothing fucking changes is when everything goes from bearable to they are fucking cowards
>>743407213how many times did you need to see the fat boy die? i counted 10 flashbacks
OY IT ME, GONE DOORI DER WORST CHARACTER IN DA FRANCHISE I AM AND ME ENG VA MAKES ME EVEN WORSE SOM'OW
>>743397020They couldn't do anything because of N, not because of the fucking guards
I genuinely don't understand why the absolute knobslobbering over this bitch doesn't devolve any discussion of 3 more than it already doesObnoxious, ugly, unredeeming cunt and yet Noah probably has a bigger boner for her than Mio
>>743373246Yeah, compared to OG Xenogears, modern XBC is basically as mature as the Pokemon anime.Xenogears had its goofiness, but for most part it was as serious as you could get.It's no wonder how a literally who western made JRPG like E33 outsells all the Xenoblade games combined, excluding remakes, despite the franchise basically being the face of modern JRPGs.The whole reason I play those games is for the plot, because the gameplay itself is garbage. If they keep watering down the plot, lore and general atmosphere, then what is the point?
>>743407461Also X was there and able to cancel out their interlinks.>>743407626>It's no wonder how a literally who western made JRPG like E33 outsells all the Xenoblade games combined, Because of the heavy shill campaign and fact that people want to feel like they're mature for playing mature game for adults?>despite the franchise basically being the face of modern JRPGs.The fuck? No way in hell is XB the face of modern jrpgs
>>743407341>SHANOYA YA DAG
>>743373246>Complaining that a 12+ rated game doesn't have realistic blood and violenceRetard. It's not an adult franchise and never has been. It tackles its themes really well for an all-ages game. War and death aren't even the themes by the way, they are just the setting.
>>743408563i-i-is t-t-that s-s-ome blood?!?! ON MY T RATED VIDYA??????
>>743407626>despite the franchise basically being the face of modern JRPGs.I'm pretty sure modern jrpg's face is persona more than anything these days
>>743373246I've spent over 1000 hours playing and replaying Xenoblade 3, and I was thinking about the dialogue between Joran and the gang today.I'm 36 and have a high-paying stable prestigious job and many fancy degrees but have hit a dead-end in my career growth."But Mister Worm, you do such great work tilling the soil!""It's really important you keep at it for the sake of the world, you know!"...Do you see what I'm trying to say? And what's so wrong about that?!I wanted my wings, you bastard!But birds... What can they possibly know of how a lowly worm feels?!
>>743373246>The game is not themed around war and death, it is themed around cowardice.>Violence is not the point.>Blood is not the point.>Politics is not the point.>The reincarnation cycle is not meaningless, it robs people of their freedom to choose and forces them to live in a hellish cycle where nothing ever changes.The point of the game is that the crippling fear of the future of the people within Origin created a literal satanic figure that forces them to live out the present forever in a monkey paw-style fuck you.
le ebin multiverse shit is lame and gay, these games would've worked better as standalone titles with separate universes, MCU, smash and fortnite has truly brainrotted an entire generation>but muh deepest lore about le scientist and le conduit and le heckin magnetismerino creating multi-NO, it is lame and gay as fuck and adds nothing of value and I swear this fucker will find a way to shove in le heckin scientisterino and yet more multiverse bullshit with Genesis despite it being totally a "new beginning" guys, we swear!
>Retards are unable to comprehend a jprg series meant for Japanese teensthe media literacy gets lower every year here
>>7433754071 maybe, 2's villains are absolutely pants-on-head retarded, why the fuck is Jin helping Malos, Amalthus' blade who is directly responsible of the destruction of Torna that directly led to the deaths of Lora and Haze? And why is he dicking around Alrest attacking random people and blades while allowing Amalthus to fester for 500 years amazing power and consuming blades? And why the fuck is Mikhail working with Malos after he got Milton killed? And why the fuck are Patroka and Akhos even there to begin with, they literally have zero backstory or any fucking reason to do anything they do, and why is Torna's objective killing some mythical old man on top of a tree who does nothing and the majority of people don't even believe he exists anymore and not the giant church that assrapes blade cores and keeps them from becoming titans? The only decent villain in the game is Amalthus and he is basically a lesser version of Egil.
>>743409583/v/ is not full of the most enlightened minds.The smart ones are around but they post less frequently.
>>743409595>War is so bad... War took EVERYTHING from me. I'm gunna prove it's bad by starting another war!I could forgive a bad plot if the gameplay was good, and it would have been if not for having the most obnoxious UI known to man with the most repetitive QTE the series has ever had. So bad 3 finally did away with it entirely.
>>743407593What the fuck are you talking about? Her only role in the story is being one of the two reasons why Shania went insane, the other being her cunt mother.
>>743409595>the destruction of Torna that directly led to the deaths of Lora and Haze?unrelated events. Lora and Haze died because amalthus and indol consolidated power years after the fall of Torna, and malos and torna (terrorist organization) works directly against amalthus and indol.
>>743409232The villains in 3 are not flashy like 2's, but they actually make sense.Joran and Shania were frustrated because their talents went unnoticed at best and openly mocked at worst, Aionios is a world that only values people's capacity for war, and in a world like that artistic people are not only unfulfilled, they're made to feel like worthless garbage, is it any wonder they snapped and became psychotic killers? Sure, you may not like them as people, but that's not their role in the game, their role is to illustrate the themes of the story, that Z's eternal present is a shithole where nobody is ever happy or fulfilled unless they're a mentally unbalanced murderer like Dirk, you'd think Noah saying the word "CHOICE" every 20 minutes would drive this point home, but alas, some people like OP still think the game is supposed to be about politics.
>>743379624Based. Fuck Enel
>>743409876>unrelated events.If Torna hadn't been destroyed there would be zero reason for Lora and Haze to be in Spessia at the time of the Indol attack, Spessia quite literally was attacked a few days after the destruction of Torna.Malos does not work against Indol, he does fuck all to harm Amalthus' interests and in fact his desire to kill Klaus comes directly from Amalthus who was pissed that "god" wouldn't respond to him, and that's fine, Malos is a figure that acts on the impulses of others, much like Z, the problem is why Jin would ally himself with Malos at all to do something that is completely irrelevant to him, hell, Jin races alongside Malos to go kill Klaus and only stops because Rex and Amalthus catch up to him, throughout the final few chapters of the game Indol is right there outside of the World Tree literally destroying the world and Jin is completely uninterested in facing Amalthus.
Mythra My Beloved14 days until wife’s game
>>743379624>>743409996samefag
>>743410125Jin's having a fucking 500 year long tantrum about Lora and falling for the Flesh Eater meme. Once Rex slaps his shit at the Cliffs and helps him out after the fact, he comes to his fucking senses asnd the fight is pretty much taken out of him. The events of chapter 8-9-10 are meant to be back to back so it's not like Amalthus' assault is supposed to be prolonged and he does basically sacrifice all of Torna and his mass produced artificial blades to stop Indol the Titan before Amalthus himself, yes there is a question as to why Malos crawled back up seemingly changed as he only reserves his Torna-era utter shithead behavior for Mythra specifically, but they don't seem to want to answer that
>>743410172>want to replay XB2 so fucking bad>utterly swamped with work until September at the leastfug
>>743385365The bar must be underground then, because i really doubt John Locke would stand for any of this shit.
>>743408896Personafags will never admit that the games are normalfagcore now.
>>743410363>Jin nurses his retarded dead driver bitch angst for 500 years but Rex saying some greeting card philosophy to him changes him forever.Damn, and I thought Jin's whole character was totally retarded, thanks for proving he's even fucking worse than I previously thought.>He comes to his senses and the fight is taken out of him.And yet he still races up the fucking tree to kill the old guy who he has no reason to care about.>Artificial blades and shit.Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me of that totally not pointless plot point that totally justifies the exitence of the otaku nopon who says "MOE!", talk about a completely worthless payoff to an already superfluous plot point.>Malos blah blahIronically, Malos is the only villain that actually makes sense, it is established early on that blades absorb elements of their drivers when they're created, Mythra was made into an irresponsible, lazy idiot because Addam didn't give a shit about being a hero and he just wanted to go back to his preggo wife to grow vegetables, and Malos was made into a destructive misanthrope because that's exactly what Amalthus was when he touched the crystal, this of course does not explain why Alvis was nothing like Zanza or Meyneth, but I can forgive that as simply a quirk of blades on Alrest; so Malos wanting to kill the person who created the world for no logical reason actually kinda makes sense, even if it is anticlimactic as fuck.Seriously, people shit on 3 so much, when 2 is the really stupid game with a completely retarded nonsensical plot and flat as fuck characters, but Mythra has half her tits out so the gooners defend the most ridiculous absurd shit imaginable.
>>743399102It honestly just angers me, why the fuck does everyone bitch Rex out for not knowing that Pyra was a suicidal retard? She never told him, what, he was supposed to read her fucking mind? Later on even Pyra says something to the effect of this, that Rex had no way of knowing what she actually meant to do once she got to Elysium, so what the fuck even is this animu "BAKAYARO!" scene?
>>743399909>>N's backstory>Funny in a pathetic way, but also doesn't make a lot of senseN's backstory makes perfect sense, he lived lots of lives becoming ouroboros and trying to end the endless now and always failed and died and got thrown back into the cycle until the one life where he and Mio decide that they'd rather just have a quiet life in the City, Mio dies and Noah dies about two years later, Z decides to fuck with him and turn him into a Moebius a la Joran and uses Mio as bait, Noah has a Joran moment where he's sick of sucking and being worthless and he says yes, Z sends him to kill Alpha, the City is destroyed, Ghondor dies and M hates him for it so he decides that if M isn't gonna love him he's just gonna force her to be his anyway.The reason why Noah and Mio are born in the cycle again is explained by M, the choice to become Moebius was so literally soul-splitting that it fractured N's whole being, and a part of him returned to the cycle, same thing happened to M when she was forced to become Moebius instead of being given a choice, this is also the reason why Noah and Mio are quiet and introspective, they're quite literally missing the parts of their souls that harbor all of their passion and emotion.
>>743410404Rip broHope you can enjoy it when life eases up with work for you
Best way to level up in Xeno 1? I'm lvl 66 and I can barely damage Yaldabaoth.
>>743414541woops forgot to bump
>>743414541Doing sidequests and hunting unique monsters,You may also want to check your equipment and skills.
>>743414541Do quests. Did you turn on expert mode at the start? Check to see if you have tons of bonus EXP just lying around.Or if you want to be a chad and just kill things that are higher level, equip agility gems and/or play as Melia and hold wind summons.
>>743402073Being made for children has no effect on how a story is written and does not excuse shitty writing.
>>743409595All of the assholes in the story are projecting their worldview onto the universe itself and the god they think created it. They're all just trying to do the JRPG thing of killing (what they think is) an evil god, and destroying the world in the process.Jin falls into that category but his main motivation is that he's gay for Malos. This is part of his characterization as a pathetic simp who immediately develops an obsessive codependent relationship with anybody who gives him attention. Probably because abused loli Lora was not in a good state of mind when she awakened him.
>>743373246Give that girl a snoot
>>743413078What are you talking about? They're kicking Rex's ass because he wanted to give up on Pyra.
>>743409976Yeah. People hyper fixate on Moebius, but most of them are in sidequests, the most important ones being K, D, J, N, M and the final trio.Its like saying the random goons you fight in some of Xeno 2's sidequest have the same importance as Torna.And even then, you get cool villains like I or F. I also liked B since he was pretty extra himself, but then I think Zeon's sidequests was one of the most polished.
>>743416090Do people count Triton when they talk about Moebius? I'd assume not
>>743416261Don't think so. But he is kinda related to I in some way. Both of them are Moebius who got fed up with their lives, but while Triton decided to become a man of the sea, Irma basically killed herself.Its not coincidence they are introduced just before M.
>>743412642Jin really is just a huge cunt, I don't know what to tell you. I've suggested he's a particular cunt to Rex once the plot gets going because he basically got the ideal relationship/existence with Pyra and Mythra that he desperately wanted with Lora but there's nothing concrete in the game about it
>>743373246The point wasn't really about war but moreso realizing the importance and meaning of life and the choices you make in it.
>>743379306And 3's wasn't?>Kinography theatre>The destruction of the theatre>The gigantic Deus reminiscent Mecha Origin>Mia and Melia Mechas>Proper farewell to N and M>The devastatingly emotional final cutsceneThat one got me harder than the Xeno2 one honestly.
>>743416868For me, it was the entire group getting separated in two and all of the heroes you helped coming to your aid.
>>743407275Z found it amusing to mock Joran while preaching about no losers in his world
>>743410363I feel Malos found a purpose through Jin that's why he changed. He was causing pointless destruction for his own amusement and saw a purpose to his nature when he saw Jin.Ironically all 3 Xenos show cases where the Aegis were all important:>Xenoblade 1 - there was a need for the overseer (Alvis) when one of the gods tried to become almighty without his counterpart>Xenoblade 2 - there was a need to protect the world>Xenoblade 3 - there was a need to destroy the world
>>743417207Technically, Malos was the villain again in 3. He ally himself with Noah to destroy the world, but he still stuck by his side when Noah became N. My guess is that he didn't care anymore since sticking woth Moebius meant the physical death of the world anyway.But then again, the Ouroboros' power is Pneuma × Logos.
>>743415906>All of the assholes in the story are projecting their worldview onto the universe itself and the god they think created it. They're all just trying to do the JRPG thing of killing (what they think is) an evil god, and destroying the world in the process.That's actually the best part about Xenoblade 2. Its really about the perception of the world.
>>743373246The game lost all momentum after chapter 5 when they saved the catgirl and removed all urgency.Liked it until then.
I really liked the Ouroboros things, and I am glad they are reappearing in Genesis in a new form.
>>743419150that fusion shit was the worst part about 3 after there being black people
>>743416868>zero character interactions throughout the entire finale, you know, the thing XB3 did the best>zero Noah/Mio scenes in particular, literally nothing after chapter 5's end, they just turn into robots>no cool blockbuster shit from the end of the 2, no chapter 10 styled revelations, absolutely godawful "i did it for the keks" antagonist>failed to properly utilize N too, even his fight is shit>failed to properly establish the world separation before the ending so it comes out of nowhere with zero buildup and characters just rolling with it>immediately sabotages an already garbage ending by implying the worlds got immediately fused againNo, it was fucking terrible. Origin itself is insanely ugly too.
>>743373246Don't forget the shoehorned non-binary character bullshit in the translation.
