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how do we fix gacha gameplay?
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These games have 10s of millions of players, I think they're probably fine as is.
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>>743380483
Now show Love and deepspace gameplay
It's peak when my boy asks me if I bought pad for my bleeding penis
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Remove the gacha
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>>743380483
gacha is fundamentally not compatible with core gameplay depth
the games are designed to last literally forever, constantly pumping out characters and content every other month over the course of decades
the only way to not make a game like this not stale to strip individual characters from doing too many things so you can save them for future characters you make
this is why, for example, party members in honkai star rail have less options than the most barebones 40 year old NES JRPG party members
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well there goes my nofap streak (last 3 hours)
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>>743380483
>play every single shit gacha in existence
>cries about them being shit.
lol
lmao even
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by removing it forever
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Needs more ball and gun.
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>>743380483
why did he boot up the same game 4 times
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>>743380483
by fixing yourself
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Gacha games aren't fun to play, they can't be if the creator wants to make money. Gacha requires FOMO events, daily checklists of tasks to complete, and lockout systems to prevent you from just breezing through the 'content' in a few hours/days. They don't respect your time. The solution is to play something else and jerk your unit to the fanart.
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>>743380483
don't play gachas exclusively like a fucking brownoid and 90% of your problems will go away
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You could just like i dont know.
Star playing games that are not gacha.
There are enough of them to last you a lifetime.
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>>743384706
They could but make every excuse under the sun to say they are shit and stick to playing only gacha
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>>743380483
I don't think it's possible unless you remove the live-service aspects entirely. The monetization model is just fundamentally incompatible with making an enjoyable game, and will poison the experience no matter what genre the gacha is imitating.
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Simple people enjoy simple stuff.
Do you also want to "fix" sportsball, slot machines, break room smalltalk, telenovelas and capeshit movies?
The average person is mind numbingly plain and stupid. And they outnumber every other type of person.
As long as they exist there will be things tailored for them.
There's nothing to fix.
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I play Magia Exedra for the VN portions
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>>743380483
Just play one and that's it. You trying to play ten fomo games is too much chore time. I play genshin only and even then it's sometimes too much since I also play tons of non gacha. If you want deep gameplay, get it elsewhere. Genshin is light gameplay I can play on my phone, it's episodic so you can always come back to it. Just stop caring about missing some parts, you will never experience everything in the world. Stop demanding gacha games to be your one stop shop for everything in your life, play a mix of genres and you will be much happier
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What constitutes gacha gameplay? I know nothing about it other than you can spin some roulette to win characters or something? What's the appeal?
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>>743380483
WuWa has more depth to its world design than Echoes of Aincrad, yet I've been unable to put down EoA for 4 days straight and I haven't cleared the story yet. I love WuWa but I think gacha games greatly lack in anything to actually pursue that aren't new characters or a drawn out story. Even login simulators like old PSO2 and SAOFD leave me with more fun experiences, Relink too.
If I had no other options, maybe I would enjoy a gacha game as it is. We'll never quite see what others can see, afterall.
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>>743380483
Decrease the amount of resources/currencies to just 3 types or less.
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>>743387719
>world design
you mean visually? because the actual zones have been SHIT for a while now
GOD I hate the state of the game
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>>743380483
FOOD ANALOGY INCOMING

op is like a fat fuck complaining about not enough potato chip flavors, if you dont over consume then it doesn't matter.
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>>743380483
you fix gacha by hanging all gacha players
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>>743391454
whales have money they will kill you with hired goons first.
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>>743380483
Play something else.
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kill blizzardshit players and devs
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>>743387525
behold, gacha gameplay at its peak
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>>743391454
You can't hang us all!
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>>743390994
>calls op a fat fuck
>food analogy incoming
>fee fi fo fum chips yum yum
Project harder fatty.
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>>743392356
>got triggered by fatties
nice self report faggot
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I play 2 gacha games. I could see myself picking up a 3rd, but more than that would be just stupid. Booting up 6 games daily to do stupid daily chores would be mind numbing.
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>>743388034
I haven't explored shit or genuinely walked around in WuWa, so I don't know what would qualify as "good". Maybe because I'm an SAO nerd, Echoes is likely the first real semi-relaxed experience I've had with just taking in a game world. But I haven't played BotW or Ubisoft either.
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You don't "fix" gacha gameplay because they are intentionally designed to be as simple and accessible as possible. For a majority of these games, the majority of their audience is 18ish and on a mobile phone that can barely play the game. So it is natural that all you do is spam repetitive basic attacks and hit 1 or 2 more flashing buttons when told to do so. Some of the games admittedly play around with depth to character kits, but it's always unnecessary as there is never any challenging content to push you to do anything complex. Raising the skill floor of these games would instantly alienate a majority of their audience. Low IQs are also inherently more likely to swipe in games, so that's a double whammy of bad financial decisions.

So basically gacha games will never have good gameplay because that would go against the core demographic and monetization of the games. That's the biggest reason they get made fun of by "real" gamers. These games are literally made, from the ground up, for impulsive, short attention span, unintelligent monkeys. The ultimate cope is that "they're the only sexy games left" meanwhile modded Skyrim and porn games exist everywhere.
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>>743380483
Why would they fix the gameplay when retards keep throwing money at them anyways?
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>>743393317
This isn't a Bethesda thread.
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>>743384581
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>>743380483
First to make a farming sim wins gacha forever.
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Gatcha is not even video games it's gambling and should be permanently banned from this board
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>>743393546
>t. fifa player
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>>743384581
You just cant be competitive and have to accept being a casual shit player then you are free from all the tedious nonsense.

I play MSQ only on multiple gacha, i dont do any daily shit and i dont pull. Yeah my dps sucks but the time i saved outweights the dps loss by far and being weaker at combat is mostly irrelevant to MSQ.
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>>743380483
stop the genshin clones, look how easy.
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>>743380483
Drop the gacha aspect



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