It’s amazing how a simple mod makes MGS1 clear and away the best game in the series…>inb4 zoom zoom
>I came up the idea called "camera" mod in MGS1
You didn't play the game
>>743381117I did and I never replayed it until this mod
>>743381010>we should turn all board games into monopoly because that's the only board game I have ever played
>>743381614>ignores the fact that the rest of the beloved series more or less went this route with consensus it was a good thing
>>743381885
I always liked MGS1 the best. Its the least anime weeb of all the MGS games. The voice acting sounds more normal and less anime than it does from MGS2 onwards.
>>743381885Interesting. Have you taken notice of the fact that those games aren't MGS from 1998?
>>743381010fuck off zoom zoom
>>743384848>least anime weeb>”it’s just like my Japanese animes!”Pick one faggot
>>743381010where can I find this mod or romhack
>>743385787https://gamebanana.com/mods/610159
>>743385995holy shit thanks
>>743385782>I came up the idea called "satire"
>>743386142It’s fucking great isn’t it?
>>743381010while this is super nice, I feel like it would make the game way too easy
>>743386704Not on European extreme
>>743381010Doesn't this trivialize the entire game?
>>743381010>simple modit requires a specific outdated version of the emulator you can't even download from the official github and some cheat engine jankfucking decomp it already, goddamn
>>743385431Zoom zooms are superior especially if played on this
>>743387449Not more than the first-person camera the game comes with.
>>743387481someone should actually make and sell this
>>743385782Why are you being disingenuous? I didnt say its not anime. I said its less anime than all the sequels. You can tell from just the voice acting alone. Immediately at the start of MGS2 Snake and Otacon speak in more of an anime voice than they did in MGS1.
WAR WAS BEGINNING
>>743388069what is this
>>743387857>the one with the cyborg ninja and otacon are the less animeI think it's more that Snake is like 80s/90s japanese anime where Kojima himself is still taking very heavy inspiration from western media while MGS2 is them designing Raiden to appeal to a more (at the time) modern fujo crowd that started having a lot of buying power in the late 90s and early 00s.
>>743381010I don't really care about replaying the game but I love it when purist faggots get triggered
>>743387584You mean the one in Integral? Cause that first person camera was janky as hell and made the game ten times more difficult.
>>743387584>he doesn't know the difference between mgs1 and TTS
>>743388350But im not even talking about Raiden . I'm talking about Snake. His voice acting sounds more anime in MGS2 than it did in MGS1. The same with Otacon.
>>743388642See >>743388438MGS1 has first person mode
>>743388267Zero Wing
>>743388785No it doesn't.
>>743388876It’s a game?
>>743388267You just outed yourself as an eternal newfag
>>743388891You're really pathetic for not being able to google, you know. The PS1 version has a first-person mode.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FT2HSczJcI
>>743389232Cool AI slop, bro.
>>743389136A 90's mid space shooter infamous for its badly translated intro cutscene which became an early internet meme 30 years ago.
>immediately goes for a shoulder-stapled camera instead of the proper subsistence/4/pw camera
>>743387481This is so fucking awesome holy shit
>>743389410you're a retarded nigger bot faggot, disconnect yourself NOW
>>743389232you could look around in first person, not play the game in first person, and you'd know this if you weren't a retarded gorilla brained nigger.
>>743390050Kek retardyou can play Integral all the way through in first person. Look at the video you just replied to.
>>743384848>Its the least anime weebEh... not so sure about that one, chief.Replay 3 THEN 1 (instead of the usual order) and get back to me about it.
>>743389663It's AI
>>743390245Are you seriously implying that cyborg ninjas, long lost secret brothers, and mecha are somehow anime?
>>743390331You're right, it's actually kinome.
>>743381010Is that guard swaggering away?
>>743391713It's Meryl, she has the sexy walk
>>743390151mgs integral is a completely different product than mgs, you dumb gorilla nigger. thats like saying mgs3 subsistence is the same as mgs3.
>>743381113fpbp
>>743392550We live in post-integral/subsistence world, no reason to pretend people aren't playing the newer versions of the games.
>>743381885Why do you lie?
>>743381117Kek so what? It's a game, not a seminal book or film.
>>743381010I guess your kind is the reason why all western AAA games are generic third person movie games
2 has the best music in the series. Fact.
>>743393821Is this even disputed?
>>743381010third person was part of the integral version...
>>743381010This makes Snake look like a weird hunchback
>>743381010MGS2 also had third person build in but was never on final version.>>743381885wrong.>MGS1 yes>MGS2 yes>MGS3 yes>Oh shit maybe we should try 3rd person over top down>MGS3 Subsistence no>MGS4 no>MGSPW no>MGSGZ no>MGSV TPP no
>>743393848Yes, because 3 has the best soundtrack
>>743393660MGS is the progenitor of AAA third person movie games
>>743394384Yet it still has a better gameplay than any western AAA movie games
>>743390262Still awesome. I want one.
>>743394384I don't find this idea very compelling anymore. Nevermind how separate story and gameplay are until MGSV, every MGS game has a ranking system with a detailed stats page for the player to see how their performance stacks against developer intentions.Therefore I conclude that modern movie games, if anything, don't take nearly enough inspiration from MGS.
>>743393516If you didn't want the validation you wouldn't have made the thread.
>>743395626>Nevermind how separate story and gameplay are until MGSVas in, not separate at all? MGS1 is walking sim between cutscenes and boss fights like every modern game (everything after tried shoving more shitty gameplay that ruins the pacing)>every MGS game has a ranking system with a detailed stats page for the player to see how their performance stacks against developer intentions.No, they just give you run stats and a funny codename. IIRC 4 started giving hints as to what you have to do to unlock higher tier codenames.
>>743381010>remove all the interesting camera angles in favor of a generic third person one with level design never designed for it
>>743396725>interesting camera angles
>>743381885MGS4 is on one hand, a bloated fucking mess and paced terribly, and on the other hand, it was Kojima giving the middle finger to Konami who didn't want Solid Snake the IP to die. So he made a game that put the character of solid snake to rest. No one wants to see their hero decrepit, old and in need of a well deserved retirement, but that's what we got. It wraps up all the loose ends and puts the series to rest. All games that came after are just a money grab.
>>743396494Its not a walking sim at all
>>743384707MGS3 got rereleased with a less dogshit camera
>>743381010If you're going to do that, you might as well play Twin Snakes.
>>743396494>continuing 35 times on normal>having opinions on anything
>>743398929It is, you walk from level entry to level exit until you hit a cutscene or a boss fight, that's all the gameplay there is.>>743399367I did that on purpose ;^)
I think it was probably inevitable that the series moved on to a forward facing third person camera, stealth gameplay being so intertwined with line of sight, that said in the game where it the old camera actually made sense I don't see much appeal in sanding down the flourish of it. seems a bit gratuitous.
>>743399548Both are fine if the game is actually built around whichever they chose.It's what made Twins Snakes so awful to play. Everything added because of MGS2 trivialised the game because nothing was changed to accommodate the additions.I guess it made retards feel good but that's about it.
>>743384848The least anime is definitely 5. Aside from a few weird cutscenes, 5 feels like a straight up Gi Joe game
>>743396494>13 hours>35 continuesare you paraplegic or something?
>>743384848weebshit utterly ruined the franchise. The early one was clearly trying to root itself as more of a hard sci fi type setting
>>743399473>you walk from level entry to level exit That is like reducing Super Mario Brothers to going from point a to b, you aren't walking in MGS1, you are sneaking past guards, camera, traps and other obstacles.The VR missions are literally pure gameplay and have a variety of objectives
>>743381010>MGS Remake ps6 digital only
>>743400132You talking about mg1? Because mgs1 has a cowboy with a revolver and a robot ninja jumping around with a katana
>>743385782>>743384848MGS1 was the highest example of anime shit before of Peace Walker where you can date the Final Boss (Pacifica)
>>743400006>speedtrooning mgs
>>743400206>you are sneaking past guards, camera, traps and other obstacles.That's what I'm talking about, they're very easy to avoid in a regular game, Integral's alternate round does have more interesting guard patrols but still, all you need to do is to get to the exit and it's really simple.>VR missionsthose were neat, yeahraiden always gets the fun games
>>743399473>I did that on purpose ;^)
>>743401914>I had to die 35 times to prove I’m not a tranny
>>743400857robot ninja is based on spiderman
>>743402390>oh no! my gamer cred!
>>743381010>It’s amazing how a simple mod makes MGS1 clear and away the best game in the series…are you retarded? The simple mode that makes MGS1 one of the best games ever is called Hard mode and is available after you complete the game. The game is designed to be played from top down so if you didnt play it like that , you didnt play the game
>>743402529>gamer cred You should probably be more concerned about your mental disability
>>743381885even if that is true, which is debetable, those games WERE designed like that dipshit. Playing mgs1 and 2 with 3rd person mode is like playing a guitar song with snapping fingers
>>743384848the least anime weeb game it's definitely ground zeroes
>>743381010
>>743402689>>743402689>Playing mgs1 and 2 with 3rd person modebut they're already in third-person mode, are you stupid??????
>>743396494what crt shader are you using?
>>743381117>>743395745Reddit is over there you virgin vagabond loser
>>743393516Philistine
> the entire game is played on a lil' business card in the top right that shits itself whenever the areas become three-dimensional> turns itself off if you alert enemies > have to press the first person view button to see whatever the fuck you're supposed to see> have to trust the weapon's autoaim actually aiming onto an enemy > interrupted every 5 seconds by David Hayter pulling the most obnoxious 5/10 1990s action flick voice into your ear I know adapting to things being shit was some people's entire childhoods so MGS probably hit close to home there, but damn, you could've bought a PC with The Dark Project and played an actual game.
>>743405843Sounds like you never played it on a high difficulty
>>743381010>"TOPDOWN BAD BECAUSE.....IT JUST IS OK"
>>743381010>I think the enemy noticed me. Better stay low.>A walking mech? This shit is getting crazier by the fucking minute.>Did you just fucking piss your pants?>he's right behind me, isn't he?
>>743399159Nah the behind the back camera sucks and looks like shit.
>>743393516You didn't beat the book
>>743381010Just emulate Twin Snakes. It's the best version.
>>743381010Naw they did that in twin snakes and it sucks
>>743405843>hard mode turns off mini mapWhat now tough guy
MGS2 is my favorite.
>>743381010I think it's my second favorite. None of the other games quite match the feel
>>743381010Focus, S
>>743405229Kojima makes shit for brainlets who think they're smart
>>743381010youtube video so i dont have to play myself?
>>743381010Focus, S.
>>743393516Games are defined by their rules and controls, you can't say you played basketball if you play it like football
>>743387471What is this for? Why?
>>743393453this is why they make you play as the slippery eel instead of the solid snake
>>743405843you want bad camera angle? i'll give you bad camera angle!
>>743412356soul
>>743396494I saw you or someone dumb like you post this same take yesterday. How can you call the stuff in between bosses a walking sim? Finding gear, navigating guards, electric floors, poison gas, wolf cave, communications tower—I mean what the fuck are you talking about melon head?
>>743381010>getting mogged on GBClel
>>743400132>>743400857MGS was trying to do the kind of vaguely plasuible-ish military/spy fiction that its inspiration in Escape from New York fit in. Stuff like Command and Conquer and Goldeneye. Gimmicky henchmen and cyborgs were already both entrenched tropes before Metal Gear came on the scene.
>>743381010Bad implementation..you can't even rotate the camera and you can see through the walls. I hope they improve this mod.
>>743381010"Where the fuck are you, meryl" ahh mod
>>743412128its for the daughter to receive the jewish deity known as baphomet
>>743408367Nah it makes that shit game actually playable
>>743418090It doesn't because they didn't change shit controlsPortable Ops unironically plays better than 3
>>743405843>you could've bought a PC with The Dark Project and played an actual game.The actual game in question:
>>743420354>this is what thiefcucks have been shilling KEK
>>743381010finally it's playable
there's still no way to play these games with the JP dub and EN subs and they waste their times with retarded shit like this instead
>>743381010The camera mod is fine. Its the unlimited ammo that makes you a bitch ass pussy.
>>743420798Good, the english voices are better. Fuck off weeb
>>743414635Ghost Babel had no right being that good, damn.
Are they going to remake more MGS or was Delta a one time thing?
>>743402635MGS1 plays like shit without the radar.
