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This is why Nintendo isn't going through any major layoffs like their western counterparts. It's part of the company's ethos.

Nintendo is literally the only major billion-dollar game company that understands the importance of retaining talent and not grossly overpaying their executives.
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Nice they're slightly less bad than the jew companies that is sony, still not buying a cuck card
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>>743387150
He's dead though
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>>743387150
Nintendo basically rejected capitalism by putting their workers and gamers, instead of shareholders first.
And as you can see, it paid off in spades since they are at the top of the industry where the shareholder first companies like Sony and Microsoft are imploding.
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>>743387231
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>>743387828
shareholders were actually pissed one year that nintendo was talking about video games and how to make them fun instead of dividends and capital gains

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/stock/meeting/140627qa/02.html

>I do not understand video games and I even feel angry because, at Nintendo’s shareholders’ meetings, the shareholders always discuss things relating to video games or such childish topics as “what the future of video games should be,” while I, for one, was flabbergasted that Mr. Iwata continues to hold his position although he had said that he would resign if the company’s performance were bad.
>I hope that Nintendo’s shareholders’ meeting will become an opportunity where the shareholders discuss the company’s business operations from the viewpoints of capital gain and dividends.
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>>743387231
Iwata was great for the consumer so he was slowly poisoned and killed by other Nintendo executives so they could proceed on their plans to make Nintendo into the next Disney
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>>743387150

People always forget Nintendo is the only actual video game company. Whatever "division" Sony and Microsoft had or was doing doesn't compare.
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>>743387150
Don't Japanese companies generally avoid layoffs
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>>743387150
This goes both ways though. Nintendo is much more hesitant to go on hiring sprees in the first place. They don't need to do layoff cycles because they never over-hired in the first place. Xbox had over double Nintendo's head count before they started laying people off.
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>>743387150
This is dangerous thinking.
Value for shareholders drops if there are no layoffs.
Fire them. You can always hire new ones.
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>>743387150
Recently heard that my boss is annoyed that I keep asking for raises even though I got more responsibilities.
In the beginning of this year he said he wanted to reward people who work efficiently and do a good job too
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>>743387150
kikes seething
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>>743388442
This
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>>743388442
>You can always hire new ones.
You can't. No one talented is looking to work under Microsoft right now, for example.
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>>743388058
Holy fucking based. Shareholders are literal leeches, get fucked by FUN, faggots.
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>>743388678
Maybe he meant one off bonuses instead of long term raises
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>>743388678
you got bonus work
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>>743388931
You can get cheap and excellent talent from India.
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>>743388678
but you have more responsibilities now and can save the company by doing more work for the same paycheck
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>>743389181
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>>743387150
This only applies to Japanese companies where everybody puts 100% effort into everything all the time, to a fault might I add. In the west there are people who put no effort into their work because they have a high security job, basically all low-tier government workers are like this and the high-tier workers don't provide any value in the first place
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Japan has low wages so it didnt matter anyway
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>>743388442
>>743389181
This shit is making me gag.
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>>743389551
That's how many executives and investors think though.
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>>743387828
>He thinks that shareholders are required for capitalism
According to this, Steam isn't capitalistic.
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>>743387231
And Nintendo still hasn't laid off a single employee. Your point?
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>>743389828
>At minimum wage
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>>743389828
It's because rent in Japan is stupid cheap. Seriously, my boss used to live there and he rented a full studio apartment for himself for under $200 USD a month.
In America you cannot find a fucking shared sleeping pod for that little.
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>>743389828
What this doesn't say is that the poverty line in the US is 50% higher than the median wage in Japan, or that we are a spoiled people that have forgotten how to do without. There was a time in my life where my weekly grocery bill was $20 and I considered my internet bill to be my luxury, most people you find bitching about wages think you need a smartphone, doordash, streaming services, and name brand goods, and that not being able to afford them is a violation of their human rights. Japanese people don't even eat meat every day and live in closets, they're requirements are rock bottom in comparison.
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>>743387150
And he was entirely correct. If there's no job security regardless of how well you perform your job as an individual, why would anyone put in any effort beyond the bare minimum? They're gonna fire you sooner or later regardless, so why bother?
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>>743387828
Capitalism is the reason why Nintendo's decisions are being rewarded while their competitors who went full retard are struggling.
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>>743387150
>executives are in charge of who gets paid so they pay themselves a ton
>executives find out that they're losing profits
>executives search for productive scapegoats to cut off while they keep paying themselves tons of money, which makes them lose even more money on the long run
Realistically how do you fix this?
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>>743387150
But modern Nintendo hates Iwata...
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>>743390975
Going private, like Valve.
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>>743389828
On a spreadsheet, the US is disgustingly affluent. In reality, like 12 people have money and fucking no one else does.
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>>743391039
I mean aside from that
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>>743390263
you’d be surprised how many people out there want to keep earning bread for their family
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>>743391291
What part of YOU'RE GETTING FIRED ANYWAY did you miss, lil nigga?

If you're at Xbox right now you're just showing up to collect till its your turn to get an email from Asha. You're not there to actually make games.
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It would only be a short term fix for Japan because Japanese developers aren't paid much nor have their budgets haven't ballooned out of sanity. Only Euros and Americans blow through half a billion dollars just to make a really shit video game.
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>>743391364
To be fair if you worked for xbawx you didn't make a single good game in 15 years while still getting paid for it. Hell some studios didn't even make a game in 15 years.
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>>743389017
Yes I get those too but everyone does.
I can do work for like 3 people
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>>743387150
Isn't this nigga dead?
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>>743390990
Why are they constructing new studio buildings and raising employees wages instead of layoffs then?
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>>743387150
Nintendo is more or less run in a sustainable way, they don't over hire Nd they don't spend 20 quintillion dollars on a single game's budget
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>>743389828
Ok but wtf is going on with Latvia, I thought their whole nation was impoverished potato farmers
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>>743391565
>new building
Not even game related. Just more health shit.
>10% raise
Literally nationwide as part of the minimum wage for everyone you tard.
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>>743391364
I mean can you blame them when management keeps shutting studios down over a single failed game? All the large ones are probably forced to work on one or two games at most and IIRC we only know of Bethesda having serious management issues
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>>743388931
ya know, perhaps is americucks weren't so spoiled they wouldn't be getting replaced. They took having a job for granted and now they reap what they've sowed.
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>>743388058
i remember reading one where some guy sperged out about nintendo saying they were making fun games and the guy was like "i never played a nintendo game, tell me about ROI!!!!!!" in a 10 minute rant
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>>743389542
Nice, very nice. Now let's overlay inflation on top of that.
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>>743388976
Nintendo's also making better money in the long run by trying to maintain their reputation. Short-term profits are always going to end up short of long-term profits.
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>>743388058
>>743391861
May be the same guy but I remember one where he said he doesn't go to shareholder meetings to hear about games, and he only picked Nintendo because he liked the name.

There was another that told them to change the entire business into a construction company.
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>>743387150
Yeah they should listen to the retards that don't even make consoles anymore.
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>>743390689
Capitalism is listening to the shareholders since they are the kingmakers (It's even enshrined by the courts in America), which would have lead to disaster if Nintendo actually did that. >>743388058
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>>743387150
You wouldn't need any layoffs if your hiring policies were in order and if you are able to create cool stuff. Nintendo is a faggot company but they only hire real nerds or at least used to.
Compared to companies like Microsoft and Ubisoft which are ridiculously bloated and everything they do is shit anyway.
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>>743390059
It's not cheap you mongoloid unless you live in Nagano and in some unheated wooden hut.
Tokyo is at least as expensive as London.
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>>743387231
Came here to post it, only retards keep glazing a dead nigga
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>>743388058
>shareholders were actually pissed one year that nintendo was talking about video games and how to make them fun instead of dividends and capital gains
To play doubles advocate, that IS what a shareholer meeting is for. Its the meeting for the money-dicks to listen to money-dick things.
Like if a doctor goes to a lecture about open heart surgery but the guy spends all 90 minutes talking about why Return of the Jedi isn't as bad as people claim.
It might be perfectly valid well researched information that is insightful and thoughtful, but its got sweet fanny fuck all to do with why anyone showed up in the first place.
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>>743391702
>Not even game related
it's an R&D lab!
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>>743388678
>I keep asking for raises even though I got more responsibilities.
You see the problem, if you accepted new responsibilities BEFORE you discussed compensation for them, then you just told your boss that you're happy to do it for the same price.
Obviously you can't be a dick that refuses to do any work, but its always a thing to keep in your mind.
And showing initiative and picking up things is one thing, but if your boss sat you down and handed you an expanded role, then its a perfectly acceptable time to discuss the pay. Like if you take on the responsibility with the understanding that in 2-6 months if you did the job well that you'd get some nominal promotion.
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>>743393413
Can't Japanese companies tell shareholders to fuck off unlike in Kikemerica?
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>>743388192
>Iwata was great for the consumer
He literally spearheaded the era of Nintendo with microtransactions and amiibo with legitimate content locked to it with retailers with exclusive rights, draconian YouTube policies and mobile games.
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>>743387150
Aren't the Nips a lot less likely to go on big hiring sprees because of how hard it is to get rid of someone once they're in the company, so it behooves everyone to be wary of bubbles?
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>>743394049
>Like if a doctor goes to a lecture about open heart surgery but the guy spends all 90 minutes talking about why Return of the Jedi isn't as bad as people claim.
retard. shareholders are not doctors. a good analogy for shareholders would be the scientific journals while nintendo would be the scientists. i believe i don't have to mention the paywalling issues caused by robert maxwell
amazing... you failed simple pattern recognition
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>>743387150
>layoffs are a "short term fix"
Whenever has cutting or limiting your resources ever helped you overcome a problem? Working with less won't fix the issue; a methodological shift is required, something which won't occur until too late because that methodological shift is usually related to upper management.
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>>743387150
In Japan it is extremely hard to just fire people
He's not saying it out of some sense of moral obligation, he is legally obligated to keep them unless they can prove a severe lack of competence or misbehavior
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>>743389828
Your poorest American is still richer than your richest European.
They also have an AC.
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>>743393782
You know Japan is not just Tokyo, right?
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>>743387150
He's dead so it's good he's not making decisions.
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>>743389828
hey
retard
only illegals get paid anything near minimum wage
you won't see a single fast food joint paying the federal minimum wage anywhere
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>>743394325
>robert maxwell
by the way this guy, ghislaine's father, tried to take Tetris off of nintendo's consoles. he pressured mikhail fucking gorbachev to stop nintendo
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>>743387216
Less bad than Valve as well
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>>743394926
>suddenly valve
Pfft
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>>743391039
Valve doesn't make games retard
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>>743394360
>>743395021
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>>743395004
Valve wishes it could afford to provide their customers ownership via GCK like Nintendo.
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>>743395021
What about Deadlock?
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>>743395136
>still going on about valve
Pfft
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>>743395021
O rly?
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>>743395246
>the most recent finished game is HL alyx released over half a decade ago, and it was a VR meme tech demo
>deadlock has been in early access dev hell for over 2 years and counting and shows no signs of any real progress
lol
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>>743395287
>suddenly valve
Hehe
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>>743395227
>vegan
pffft
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>>743388058
>buys shares of a videogame company
>gets pissed about videogames
Shareholders are vermin
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>>743395287
No such thing as a valvesnoy, you desperate retard. Snoy only applies to one (1) group only, literally.
Hint: it's in the name.
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>>743394242
Since, fortunately, Dodge vs Ford only applies to America. Nintendo's been telling shareholders to fuck off (In the polite way) for years. They've only bent to their will a few times, but made sure to do it their own way. Like when they finally released mobile games.

>>743390059
Unironically could be instantly fixed by not only freezing all rent, but completely dismantling the property speculation market, using eminent domain if necessary, scaling back unnecessary regulations and home owner association laws, and heavily investing in public housing to undercut the current price gouging. There's zero reason the US can't have cheap rent why Japan given their population density crushes the US.
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>>743395447
>tendie
Pffft
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>>743395154
>upcoming free to play....MTX simulator
Yup sounds like shit a scam company does
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>>743395246
>games from 20 years ago
Nintendo passed that number since the start of Switch 2 just over a year ago. Valve isn't a game developer, they make GAAS.
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>>743395458

Snoy is a verb, not a noun. It describes a certain obnoxious behavior.
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>>743395482
Idort actually
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>>743387828
>>743393413
LOL. Bitch please. Privately owned is still fucking capitalism.

They are listening to their shareholders, and their shareholders are telling them that they're ok with being stable and not pursuing AAAA cutting edge tech in games.

Those fucks are loud activists.

>>743394049
No. It's to communicate to investors, both current and potential. The games are absolutely relevant. If the people who own nintendo shares don't like it, they can go buy Ubisoft instead, which spent a minimal time talking about their games last time out.

Ubisoft's financials just came out yesterday too. They lost 1.7 BILLION fucking dollars. And that was just for last year.
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>short term fix
Yeah that's the point. Other vidya companies were taken over by bankers and finance bros who only care about short term bumps to the stock price and will not be at the company long enough to reap the rotten harvest they sowed by laying off core employees.

Western companies don't believe in training people or retaining talent. The only old timers are the ones who were buddy buddy with the upper management before they got super big. They don't get laid off, they just retire once they get bored of having not real responsibility at work.
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>>743395612
No, it doesn't. No matter how hard you try, it'll never mean anything more than a fuckwit playstation fanboy.
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>>743394242
Shareholders can call for a vote to remove management in Japan just like in the US, however Nintendo never sold off all its equity to raise funds they don't need so the activist motherfuckers really can't do much.

The tankie idiiots are mistaking "not selling control of your shit and doing what you want" with rejecting capitalisim.
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>>743394467
When you bought bad resources, or they're not needed for the future. For example. UBI cutting off their Pune studio was a great idea.
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>>743395738
Okay valvesnoy
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>>743391912
That is what "Real Wage Growth" means dummy. This is after inflation is calculated into the wages.
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>>743395738
this anon is correct

>>743395823
this anon never scored
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>>743395154
Notice he said GAMES. As in plural. Valve makes like one game. Sometimes.
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>>743395738
>fuckwit playstation fanboy.

Sony fanboys are called SONIGGERS. That's the noun.

Snoy is the verb.

You are the one twisting it.
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>>743394467
Executives see employees in terms of "overhead cost". They see how much their salaries and benefits packages are costing the company. Laying people off immediately saves the company some money by no longer having to pay those salaries and benefits, so it causes a little boost to the stock price usually.

But it creates problems for the company in the long run.
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>>743395890
NTA but your headcanon is wrong and you need to go see therapist
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>>743395636
>consolefag
Pfft
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>>743395986

Whatever you say ValveSnoy.
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>>743396054
actually I'm your other boogeyman, the cubesnoy
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>its gonna be another tendie seething about PC thread
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>>743389542
Coming back to Montreal from Tokyo was depressing. What's the point of my salary going up if I'm surrounded by mid food, everyone references reddit irl and look disgusting, art culture is political cringe, and the list goes on. Anyways, the west+china+korea is everything wrong video games and thank god for Japan and games like rhythm heaven.
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>>743388058
this would be every company if Dodge V Ford ruled in favor of Ford.
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>short term fix
So it's better to keep people who are making bad games and bad products working? How does that make sense?
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>>743396201
If the SCOTUS ruled in favor of Ford and Obamacare never passed, we would be halfway to a Star Trek utopia by now.
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>>743396007
>he owns nothing
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>>743395890
No? The term was literally just from a Japanese xitter post where the guy mispelled Sony. People have used Snoy for years in reference to Sony consumers. In fact, if you just look up the term in the archive right now, almost every mention of it is as a noun, dating back years since it gained widespread use as slang.
Seriously, have a look
arch.b4k.dev
Search it
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>>743396165
You'll survive.
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>>743387828
this is still capitalism but with a slight values shift towards long term sustainability. It's a zag since the entire world seems to be operating under short term profit, future be damned but the money making idea is still there. The bill will come due for the ziggers but it's not a problem for the current holders unless it comes quicker than expected
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>>743396306
Piracy and GOG
Please don't try to speak to your betters
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>>743388058
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>>743394049
That sounds like a pretty fun lecture desu
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>>743387150
Our HEROES
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the last pokemon game cost 15 million to make
they refuse to put money into deving good games
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>>743397345
pokemon doesn't have a low budget problem, they have a gamefreak incompetence problem
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>>743387150
He doesn't understand the plot. Microsoft can't have two big gaping holes in their boat so they're plugging the Xbox hole in hopes that the AI hole won't sink them.

The foreign cabal that's taken over Xbox didn't build it and doesn't give a shit about it.
>the same results
Losing hundreds of millions of dollars per studio with neither the modern audience nor the day where the political hires become financially self-sufficient in sight?

BTW, the industry completely deserves what's happening to them. When the industry tries to talk about the malice of gamers, they leave out the past 15-25 years of malice from the industry towards gamers. And that attitude is exactly why we're happy to see them go.
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>>743387828
Fuck off retard, all they do is make longer term decisions than the tulip speculator tier developers we have in the West chasing fucking Extraction shooters now of all things
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>>743395890
Pretty sure you mean adjective (descriptive) rather than verb (action).
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>>743387150
If Nintendo was based in the US shareholders would sue for this and win
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>>743397678
Nintendo's executive staff feel ownership for the company. They don't plan to pump the stock then bail, they want a legacy at the company. For that reason, they have a long view of things. Most executives in the west see their current position as temporary and only as valuable as their eventual severance package.
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>>743387150
>Nintendo is literally the only major billion-dollar game company that understands the importance of retaining talent and not grossly overpaying their executives.
It's because Nintendo is the only one out there, as incredible as it may seem, that understands its business is about producing entertainment, not technology.
You’d think that after so many decades, people in this line of business would realize they need to be like "Disney" and not like "Microsoft", but no. They really think they just need to hire millions of Indians at low wages to do menial labor, and then pour another 100 million into marketing so their software will sell. Then fire everyone and start over...
There are only retarded motherfuckers in this industry
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>>743396649
>since the entire world seems to be operating under short term profit
it really is bizarre that every major company seems to have the same impulse control and decision making ability as your average drug addict. Like they need that hit of stock price bump TODAY, and who gives a shit if everything burns down tomorrow?
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>>743398158
>would realize they need to be like "Disney"
Presumably you meant to say "like Disney 30 years ago", rather than Disney right now, which is as mismanaged as any video game company and suffering for it. Only their absolutely massive inertia and vast hoard of resources have insulated them from real consequences and given them time to course correct.
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>>743397487
This. 15 million is plenty to make a good game. You just have to hire good people with your money.
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>>743388192
Nintendo is not the next Disney tho
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>>743397345
1. Nintendo doesn't make Pokemon games
2. Nintendo doesn't budget Pokemon games
3. You were lied to by jewtubers and fell for it hook line and sinker like a sucker. $15 million wouldn't even be enough to pay Game Freak's employees base salary for 2 years, not to mention over 1000 contractors that were in the credits
4. That was just partial budget for a very early stage of development and they still blew past it
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>>743388192
Not so far fetched honestly
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>>743398158
Nintendo are unironically operating like renaissance era Disney. Like, their port philosophy is 1:1 with the "Disney vault", just not saying the quiet part out loud.
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>>743387828
>rejected capitalism
Corporatism.
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>>743387828
>capitalism is when thing I don't like
>socialism is when thing I like
people like you are the reason why democracy doesn't work btw
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>>743388678
>In the beginning of this year he said he wanted to reward people who work efficiently and do a good job too
That usually mean a poorly made hotdog/taco or a trip to a lasertag place he took his kids once in 1995.
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>>743396649
>>743398229
It's capitalisim that more correctly values your skilled workers, and what they need to succeed emotionally, instead of pursuing the value of investment capital.

And consider how cheap capital has been and how many buisneses became successful by pursuing pure investment.
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>>743394926
>>743395136
Calm down, Rothchild's goyim
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Reminder that the jew was trying to harass Iwata into greenlighting slop
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>>743388678
>Recently heard that my boss is annoyed that I keep asking for raises even though I got more responsibilities.
quit. you're never getting a promotion and will be fired when they find a replacement
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>>743387150
nintendo isn't filled with DEI hires and woke retards, that's why switch 1&2 were succesful.
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>>743399264
they even fired a bunch of wokeniggers at NoA japan-style while raising the wages of only japanese workers
so fucking based honestly, they need to do even more firings at NoA
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I have a hard time accepting that a REAL executive, like an Epsteinian lizard person who subsists on the blood of infants, would ever tolerate games being left in development for more than 4 years.
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>>743399185
Wasn't he the same guy who went after Kadokawa/fromsoft?
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>>743399472
literally yes
not even the first time either, that happening like a month ago is literally the third time or so
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>>743387150
This strategy of just giving game studios infinite money and infinite chances has obviously just turned them into a closed circle that doesn't care one bit about what's going on outside of their club, which is fine if the customers are a part of that club and are enthusiastically buying games and merch, but they're not. The club barely cares about the hobby at all and many "leaders" are actually embarrassed to be working here.

If Microsoft's current leadership gave a shit about the videogame industry (they don't), they'd announce a new round of layoffs and closures every two years until the division turned a profit, and then they'd be on probation for the next decade while they continued to clean themselves up. The whip must be cracked.
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>>743388058
>I can't believe the toy and toy hardware company wants to talk about one of the only two products they make!!1!
Shareholders are not sapient creatures.
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>>743395136
I'm pretty sure they actually don't.
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>>743387150
Based king
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>>743399425
Then explain why Retro Studios wasn't fired for the gross abomination that was Metroid Prime 4.
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>>743399897
baldy you having such a bloody vendetta against some rando devs can't be healthy
go take some meds and suck your thumb while playing terraria in the exact same way red wants you to again
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>>743399897
Because they had already given up on it but we're too Japanese to publicly admit it, so instead they shifted the narrative to these other guys making it
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>>743399949
>how dare you dislike devs that hate video games and want to ruin them by filling them with shitty marvel capeshit one liners
What causes someone to blindly defend a company like this?
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>>743387231
His surgery was an extremely short term fix, that’s why he’s mad at them.
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>>743400017
>Quadrupling down already.
You really need to get some therapy sealionfag.
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>>743400017
>that webm
Holy shit, that isn't from the game, is it?
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>>743388678
Yeah you gotta leave. My old boss did the same, empolyers think their employees spawn from the abyss and have no homes or bills.
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>>743400097
You're not getting paid to defend Nintendo online.
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>>743388678
>anon works in a stereotypical Japanese Black Company
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i still cant believe nintendo invented a cancer ray gun just to kill iwata
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>>743400017
>baldy already having the exact same mental breakdown he's had every single day the past month or so
all over a single piece of concept art no less
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>>743400301
???
Where is the concept art in that webm?
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>>743400412
I like how you had to take a few minutes to calm your tits to not out yourself yet again lmao.
By the way Other M is one of the best written stories in gaming.
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>>743388058
>>743391861
>>743392454
On the opposite end, one guy bought just enough shares and held them for long enough just so he would be given time to speak at one of these meetings, just to complain that there was no new F-Zero game and there were too few options for male Inkling customization.
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>>743387231
Is he, though? Is he really?
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>>743399643
Samefag here. That club is a gathering profiteering clout-chasers who don't play videogames, dumb theater kids who don't play videogames, the dumb theater kids' friends from the gay bar who don't play videogames, Karens who don't play videogames, Redditors who like videogames but have a half-witted understanding of them, and basically anyone and everyone but the medium experts who actually belong in leadership. That's why they freak out when a Fromsoft or Larian comes along and demand that customers not hold them to that standard even though they have infinite money and infinite time.

What value is there in keeping this around for anyone but these devs?
>Is that not enough?
Why should productive people spend all day growing food, delivering packages, maintaining buildings, etc. for people who serve no one but themselves? Profit in a free market environment is a marker that you're giving the community more than you're taking from it.
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>>743387828
Sony gets carried by Square Enix, Capcom, FromSoft and other 3rd parties.
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>>743400634
you mean EA and the other sports games producers
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>>743400518
They know they can't give him that game; he'll cash out!
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>>743396682
>he doesn't know
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>>743399091
Good talk
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>>743395478
The biggest thing is eliminating real estate as an investment vehicle. It's a double edged sword though as historically it was one of the most accessible investments to a family. Not so true anymore though
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>>743395136
But Valve DOES give ownership. You own your PC games far more than you do console games.
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>>743400634
>>743400671
you mean Mihoyo and epic. Sony's entire revenue comes from freemium microtransactions.
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>>743387150
While I agree, name me a Japanese company that has had widespread layoffs. I do think they have better worker policies or at the very least socially enforced policies for workers. I've never seen Japan do massive layoffs unless the company was actually going bankrupt.
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>>743401034
Anon, why doesn't gamestop sell 2nd hand steam games?
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>>743401165
Because you can get them for free?
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>>743401085
>While I agree, name me a Japanese company that has had widespread layoffs
i can name a few but it's only westernized companies like square enix
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>>743401201
If gamestop can get them for free then why aren't they selling them?

:)
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>>743387216
No just Iwata is. He's legitimately the only cool CEO. (Gabe comes close)
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>>743401264
Why would you buy a second hand steam game, when you can download them for free?
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>>743401424
Why can't you answer my question?
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>>743401507
What question?
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>>743401083
Fortnite is a PC game, nobody would buy a console for it.
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>>743395653
>>743396649
>>743397678
>>743398595
>Corporatism
Aka capitalism in practice. The fact that Nintendo rejects the normal "Line must go up at all costs immediately" and puts workers ahead of shareholders and management might as well be called communism by the usual groups
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>>743401982
Retard.
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>>743395478
Except the President is a real estate land owner who doesn't want cheap land. Didn't even sign the bipartisan housing bill because it would lower his friend's investments.
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>>743404003
You'd have to be exceptionally gullible to think Epstein's man would help anyone but the rich, not to mention all the tax hikes he put on video games.
Switch would have easily passed 160 million if not for that.
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>>743398229
There needs to be a word for the widespread epidemic of the addiction to making money. It's a straight up mental disorder that negatively affects everyone and everything. It should be getting more attention.
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>>743404164
Is this before or after the ram/ssd markups from tech companies reserving production?
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>>743404306
trump's tariffs are separate from AI slop price gouging, which he also dumped half a trillion into and banned states from regulating it themselves.
He really hates gamers and Nintendo in particular since remember when he announced his trade war the day after the Switch 2 unveiling and then everyone had to worry about the Switch costing hundreds of dollars more and Nintendo having to delay US pre-orders because of that war?
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>>743389542
Looks extremely dated, it doesn't take exchange rates into account
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Bethesda was bad before the layoffs
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>>743387150
just wait until they get an indian CEO
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>>743401559
The majority of Fortnite revenue comes from PlayStation users
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>>743405028
>Nintendo
>Not having a Japanese CEO
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>>743387231
>once someone has died, their words cease to hold any meaning
look at this retarded nigger
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>>743387150
the thing is that Nintendo's workforce is not a lefty nepotism mafia filled with DEI gender crazy porpaganda fuckers
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>>743387150
Isn't it difficult in Japan to layoff employees?
I remember the story that Silent Hill was only created because of employees who were given tedious tasks and expected to quit.
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>>743387828
Nintendo's stock is down 50% in less than a year when tech stocks are up.
Where are all the angry shareholders?
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>>743387150
>>743388058
>le nintendo cares!
>Nintendo
>The only non-innovating game publisher on the planet
>Who produces the same game, year after year, with 0 improvements
Lol
Lmao
ROFL
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>>743406454
>>743406772
>All the greedy and angry rightoid shareholders dumped their stock
>Now Nintendo can operate without getting pressured by greedy corpos who'd suck them dry for a short term pay out.
This is a bad thing how?
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>>743406832
>The only non-innovating game publisher on the planet

DS, Wii, 3DS, and Switch say hello.
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>>743406868
I hope it crashes into the dirt so Nintendo can just buyback all their stock and tell shareholders to fuck off
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>>743406905
We can only hope given they could easy tank it with the amount of assets they currently have.
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>>743394049
You are retarded just like the investors. If you don't understand or care about the company or even vaguely the industry you're investing in then you are vermin that belongs exterminated because you contribute absolutely nothing of value to anybody, anywhere and exist solely to ruin the things that people have put actual work into and that people have actual affection for. When Reggie joined Nintendo he wasn't a games guy but he learned the business and got really good at it, because at his core he cared about making good products. The fact that MBA retards these days think that learning a business or industry doesn't matter is literally why everything sucks now.
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>>743387150
I still don't see people discuss the fact layoffs are from studios putting out games that didn't sell. They expect studios to keep people employed even when they have little revenue.
Ask how many actually bought Hi-Fi Rush, The Outer Worlds 2, or Avowed. Most will say they didn't buy it or are waiting for a sale while those who did play it played it with Game Pass..
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>>743407012
>I still don't see people discuss the fact layoffs are from studios putting out games that didn't sell
Because that's not true and anybody with a job in any industry these past couple of years has seen first-hand that layoffs have fucking nothing to do with the performance of the individual, their team, the projects they work on, or the company as a whole. It's all arbitrary and random because corporations are run by retards, just like governments. Everybody in power right now is either old, retarded, or both.
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>>743407084
All those employees should make their former employers look like dicks by opening their own studio and retaining all their employees, even if it's at a loss.
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>>743400634
Isn't the 90s anymore anymore
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>>743398595
corporatism is an old way to say communism btw, it just means the government is fully incorporated into society
actually idk it might be the old term for totalitarianism? same shit anyhow
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>>743407686
Corporatism today means capitalists interests (corporations) have taken over the government through corrupt means like bribery to further empower and enrich themselves.
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>>743394049
>so this year we're going to make some new bread that will grow our customer base
>STOP TALKING ABOUT BREAD
>sir this is a baking company
Basically. Talking about games IS talking about how they're going to make money dumb dumb.
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>>743406832
>owns himself
That's gotta hurt. Look at other companies years and years of NO FUCKING GAMES.
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Works for Nintendo and most asian devs but Western vidya needs mass laiyoffs because too much overpaid nepobabies, women who do nothing, cheap but low quality jeet labor, etc
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>>743398819
This the kinda retard that’d say
>erm socialism like, bad on paper though?
rlly nice fanfic you’re writing there bud
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>>743387150
this. you NEED 5000 people on your team with 3000 of them being retarded women who don't actually work
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>>743388678
you'll get fired when they find someone who can do that without asking for a raise
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>>743411485
why would you hire 3000 retarded women in the first place? Seems like a much bigger issue underlying those symptoms
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>>743387150
Firing your actual talent is suicidal.
Game companies are not fucking tire factories, the programmers,artists etc ARE the machine that produce the games.
But retarded shareholders don't understand that.
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>>743406832
>Nintendo is the only non-innovating game publisher on the planet
>It's the same company that puts out features and gimmicks that others ultimately copy
You're a fucking retard.
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>>743387150
>This is why Nintendo isn't going through any major layoffs like their western counterparts
No it's because of Japanese labor laws.
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>>743411685
>Game companies are not fucking tire factories, the programmers,artists etc ARE the machine that produce the games.
hasn't been the case for a decade
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>>743405028
Unlike cucked burgerland they are not letting saars and poojeetas in.
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>>743411734
It still is on studios that produce actually good games.
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>>743388058
Nintendo could easily go private, but then they would need to talk to jews and arabs instead of the public investors.
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>>743387150
this is anti-western bigotry pls delete
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>>743388313
That is because afaik japan has strong employee laws, so companies that want to get rid of you, force you to resign. Being fired in japan apparently is basically being blacklisted
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>>743387150
Is this the part where we pretend like Japanese work environments aren't some of the most cancerous and unhealthy ones out there because we have to simp for the corporation that took the place of parents for the saddest among us?
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>>743411976
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This is because, after Yamauchi retired, Miyamoto became virtually the most powerful person at Nintendo.
So Miyamoto's comrades like Tezuka and pupils like Koizumi became powerful too.

New CEOs with degrees in economics can't do shit on their own when 80% of powerful guys at Nintendo are Miyamoto's bros.
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>>743411976
Are we pretending this is still 2000 meanwhile western devs are notorious for crunch or flatout replacing you with H1bs
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>>743401982
>>743407686
>>743408245
This is a perfectly viable and tested strategy in capitalisim. Trying to divert it to some leftypol shit is like trying to say Costco and In and Out arent' capitalist.
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>>743412718
Costco and In&Out do, in fact, go directly against capitalism by making choices that are unprofitable in the short term for long term stability.
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>>743398229
The pool of CEO's eligible for big company positions is really small so they do not care because they know that a company whose executives share the same golf club will hire him.
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>>743388678
The problem is when everybody in 4chan are office workers, meanwhile in the real world there arent layoffs for people who pick fruits or milk cows. There arent layoff when people need clean the windows of a skycraper or build infrastructure.
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>>743398229
Why would they care? The people making these decisions get their fat bonuses and they fuck off. They have zero stakes in the company. It might be different if their bonus was time dated
>yeah here stock you can't do shit with it for 30 years
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>>743395831
Problem is that inflation itself is often... very misleading. As it includes Business to Business transactions, but also one time purchases like a house. And in the total "volume" of transactions of an entire country they tend to make up the lion's share. And since those costs don't tend to increase too much they reduce the general inflation rate, even if the general population is being hit by worse shit.

In general the problem with inflation rate because of that is while it may say 3% in two countries, in one it may actually hit the average person much more severely, because B2B costs barely increased and all the inflation happened in the food/general cost of living part (which then increased in cost like 20+%), while the other country has it evenly spread out so ALL prices just increased by 3%... which then also means wages likely rose by 3% as well.

Inflation typically also needs to be separated into different sectors and the most important one to actual prosperity of the people is the inflation of the cost of living. Particularly food. I can say, especially due to reports from the current world cup, that food in the US can be up to 10x as expensive as in Germany for instance.
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>>743411976
This isn't about America though
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>>743412940
Who taught you economics? I want to publicly shame them for teaching you so badly that you don't even know what the fuck a capital investment is.
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TOTAL

KIKESHIT

BANKRUPTCY

SOOOOOON
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>>743397345
The problem is that gamefreak has the same attitude as Bethesda when it comes to game development, they try to do big games but with small ass (for AAA) dev teams and you see how buggy it ends up being.
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>>743414251
i only know gamefreak for Pokemon, what was a "big game" they tried?
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>>743406832
I simply hate shareholders.
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>>743387231
All dead people are wrong.
If they were right, they'd still be alive.
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Nintendo wank remains strong on this site.
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>>743400518
no way this is real, not in this shit kiked to death world
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>>743394049
>heart surgery analogy
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>>743416816
Yids remain eternally seething at the samurais.
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>>743387150
Iwata was Nintendo’s heart, Miyamoto is the brain, and Reggie was the soul. Now the heart is dead, the soul has left the body, and the brain bereft of both charged $10 for the Switch 2’s tutorial.
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>>743387909
;_;
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>>743387216
Every Nintendo game is full on card.
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>>743394254
Came here to post this. People seem to forget about his, because they loved Amiibo as toy figurines, but as physical DLC they were really a trojan horse for moving Nintendo into the modern era of shit.
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>>743389542
>my wage grew by 20%!!!!

Totally makes up for everything being 50% more expensive.
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>>743387150
AI and cheap Jeet labor wasn't around while Iwata was alive. Rest assured, Nintendo will be laying off people next.

Cause the only places not experiencing layoffs make coomer games.
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>>743388192
>>743394254
Post the content impacting playtime (in form of extra modes/new stages etc) across all Nintendo vidya that was exclusive to any amiibo
Remember, you can't cheat with cosmetics here
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>>743418818
>WHAT IS 2+2? AND DON'T GIVE ME 4
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>>743418990
>can't answer the query
I accept your concession
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>>743387150
Isn't the company structure different in Japan compared to California?
From what I heard Microsoft had like a 10 step management bullshit, so if you ever as a worker wanted to pitch or give any kind of feedback you have to go through 10 management steps.
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Shame that Nintendo has no talent.
It's also worth noting that the financial struggles Nintendo were going through were a direct result of Iwata's overhaul of the company. His shift from one extreme (Yamauchi) to a more liberal, "safe" workplace inspired no motivation because there was no standard except for the audience's, and once the product's quality fell so low even that rabble of retards denied it, so did Nintendo's stock.
Leadership of all forms DESERVE to be culled at that point, when they become so comfortable they lose (or reveal they never had) any creative ambition, which brings me to Iwata himself, who was historically nothing more than a programmer. He wasn't creative, he didn't revolutionize programming as a technical endeavour, he was good at it and could manage small teams of programmers, but nothing more. Why they made this dumb faggot president is beyond me, and why people continue to praise his corpse is downright baffling.
He was a nice enough man, but he was just a mascot, and less convincing in that regard than his NOA counterpart. Literal <60 IQ morons will see a Japanese midget stare at bananas and clap. What a joke of a company. Then, now, and forever.
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>>743416910
It's real my nigga
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/a-shareholder-asked-for-a-new-f-zero-at-nintendos-latest-annual-meeting/
>A Nintendo shareholder reportedly asked Nintendo to release a new F-Zero game during its annual general meeting on Tuesday.
>they claimed that Nintendo execs Shigeru Miyamoto and Shinya Takahashi “looked happy when I was naming the titles I wanted to see sequels to”.
>In the full transcription of the Q&A Nintendo’s president said the company cannot realistically create sequels ‘to every series fans request’.
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>>743388192
This actually makes a lot of sense.
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>>743387150
Nintendo doesn't hire very quickly either, so they don't have many staff to fire even if they wanted to. The Switch generated hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue and yet in the last decade they've hired less than 1000 new employees
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>>743419171
>From what I heard Microsoft had like a 10 step management bullshit
*14* layers, they said.
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>>743411734
Outsourcing asset art (among other things) to India is why the industry is now dogshit
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>>743417341
I'm not so sure. They transitioned from playing cards to mechanical parlor games, to vidida without layoffs.



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