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Why is Persona like this?
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>>743392164
It was because he was abusing them without their consent. How many times are we going to have do make this thread?
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>>743392164
Kawakami relationship was consentual. Kamoshida abused his power and authority to force high school girls into relationships and it made one of them want to commit suicide.
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Female privilege
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>>743392321
>>743392305
Nobody forced Ann to get into the car.
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kamoshida threatens and beats his students to have sex with them
you have to actively go after kawakami
i didnt even know how to start the confidant when i first played
its still morally questionable at best but its not the same
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>>743392398
wasnt he going to beat the shit out of shido even more if she didnt
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>>743392164
Its dem socio coonomic factahz n shiet nigga
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Age of consent in Japan is 16 so to them the only hangup about the dude fucking his students is how he coerced them into it.
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>this thread again
/qa/ lost
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>>743392565
It's still a major breach to have sex with your students because of how you have power over them, etc
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>>743392164
Modern society is all about controlling male sexuality via a mountain of shittests and cultural conditioning
A man who has relations with young women is very dangerous because there's a chance those girls aren't culturally conditioned yet to control their males
An older woman having a relationship with young man however counts as female control so the society takes no issue with it
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>>743392479
Damn kamoshida could've solo'd the final bad guy? And we stopped him? Teenagers really are the scum of society
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>>743392164
Ann and Shiko are two whores. Kawakami is a pure maid.
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>>743392305
there is no such thing as consent when one of the parties holds a position of power ALBEIT
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>>743392164
It wasn't about the age difference or that he was a teacher and the girls were students. It was about the abuse and lying. Sorry you thought the whole world was as scandalized over the girl being 17 years and 364 days old as you.
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>>743392164
>persona for nugens.
>nooohhhh.... that relationship is bad and wrong.
>unfertile older woman with young boy.
>yess that's realistic and empowering.
We should kill every person from nugen to avoid that shit (every born post 1987) because they are a clear mistake for gaming.
> guy choose sexy girl from game.
>peers go "you are **insert mental illness here**".
>in the past : guy choose girl elin on tera.
>hey that's cheating is the most over powered character ingame (can be applied to any game).
See how things changef.
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>>743392305
And Joker can't rightfully consent given he's a minor and she's an adult in a position of authority over him.
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>>743392398
It was clear Kamoshida was using Shiho as bait.

>>743392164
I mean Joker isn't the one showing up with wounds and who tried to kill himself.
Persona understand there is a a fine line.
Normies are the ones icked because everything age gap triggers them even with consenting adults.
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>>743392597
>completely unprompted admitting he's a discord tranny spammer
/v/eddit is cooked
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>>743392164
Posted it again. Posted it again. Posted it again. Posted it again.
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>>743392305
Oh, like Joker and Riuji forcing Ann to model nude for some stranger in the arc immediately following that one, despite her clearly not wanting to/feeling comfortable doing it?
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>>743392164
Despite this being a retarded shit post I'm convinced the growing desire to appeal to westerners and normalfags has all but killed any chance of adult romance in Persona 6.
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>>743395174
>Joker and Riuji forcing Ann to model nude for some stranger in
Was surprised when I replayed anf how blown out of proportion this scene is.
They just suggest that, joke about it, then tell her she doesn't have to do it.
Then later you get one choice to continue the joke.
Then just the funny scene happens.
Makes me wonder if people have had any real friends.
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>>743395381
>yes it happened, but it's not such a bad thing
The tonal whiplash was bad enough for anyone without crippling autism.
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>>743395605
It wasn't really.
Not all people who have suffered trauma want to be treated differently just because of it. They want some normalcy to move on.
Similar to Sakis brother social link in Persona 4 who wants to move on but can't because everyone is just focusing on his sister death and treat him differently sans the protagonist.
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>>743393030
younger men with older women is less way harmful
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>>743396798
How? It's the same thing.
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>>743395051
>Legality is morality
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Its best for the kids if mom and dad are around the same age and have had few(preferably zero) sexual partners outside their husband/wife.
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>>743397229
Gee idk 30 year old balding kart manager? maybe because younger women are far more vulnerable and are less far likely to be abused.
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>>743392164
why is this generation full of prudes
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>>743392164
Reminder anyone that thinks the bottom one is fine is in no right to complain about loli content.
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>>743397527
Large batch of celebrity pedos and the last generation's selected ideological battle over gender identity has effectively failed. This has made victorian repressed sexuality cool again.
I'm just sad we didn't go with neo gothic architecture or penny dreadfuls.
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>>743392164
Japanese people are retarded
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>>743392164
for me it's tae
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>>743398440
This is a Kawakami thread. Leave.
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>>743398440
cunt personality. Nothing I said scored me frens points with her
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>>743392164
This is a videogame
Any girl getting with another man is bad
Any girl getting with me is good
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>>743392164
Kamoshida didn't have sex with him.
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>>743392164
it's never painful for a little boy when doing this to a woman
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>>743399323
I always kinda assumed pedos must have tiny dicks, and that's why they're into small girls, so it looks proportionate.
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>>743395174
This lmao. Completely took me out of the vibe the first section had built, couldn't take the game seriously after that.
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Older men are creepy and disgusting

Older women are hot and appealing

kill yourself balding op
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South Park already made this a joke 20 years ago, boys don't give a single fuck
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>>743399323
>always assuming abuse when men are doing something
No loving and caring man would hurt someone like that and would wait until older, prepare, and do it in other ways without penetration.
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>>743400054
it's the other way around, simp
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>>743392164
just forget that it was always about him physically abusing and beating up the students. The pervy statues were just on top
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Do we have to keep doing this thread?
Can we just go back to Maruki unraping Shiho threads instead?
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>>743392164
Still can't get over the fact the MC is named Joker
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>>743392164
The issue was never that he had sex with their students. In fact it's implied everyone knew and were ok with it. The issue was he was physically abusing them
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>>743392164
All girls in video games must only have sex with the player. If it doesn't follow that rule, its a shit game design
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>>743400796
when persona 6 releases we might get new eventually as recurring threads
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>>743392305
He was grooming Kawakami, used the fact that if her part time job got revealed she would lose her teacher position. He knew she needed money and was abusing that to get close to her.
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Gonna play p5royal after only having played vanilla 5 on release a decade back?
Any tips for the social aspect beyond just the usual always click the rught answer and bring a matching persona?
I don't feel like following a guide to max all the SLs.
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>>743392164
bait
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>>743400236
You jewpedo trooncels always expose yourself like this lmao. Completely unprovoked as well
YWNBAW
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>>743397486
Not at all true, and even if it was, men shouldn't be punished for women's weakness.
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Does Persona have the most consistently shit thread quality of any game on /v/?
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>>743404094
Is persona a Nintendo property?
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>dumb butt hurt Persona fags are getting BTFO again!

>>743400796
>wahhh stop humiliating me! :(
>STOP NOTICING MY HYPOCRISY! :(
Kek!
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>>743402118
Focus on Kawakami, Hifumi and Chihaya Social Llinks.
They have cool perks.
Then the doctors Tae and Maruki.
Always hang out with Kasumi.
It's broken af but if you do the twins social link quests you can get some powerful persona related fusion stuff.
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>>743404094
For some reason v absolutely hates Persona in general. Its specifically 5 most of the time.
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because the guy puts the dick in the girl
the guy has to be physically aroused in order for the girl to get pleasure

>oh my god my dick is hard
>oh no please dont put your vagina on it AAAA IM BEING RAPED!
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>>743406005
I have no idea what they were thinking with the twins
>Let's put the perk that lets you fuse personas above your level in exchange for money... at rank 4 instead of rank 10 like the vanilla game, also let's make money beyond piss easy to make with mementos and forcing downed demons to give money
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>>743392164
>YOU HAVE SEX WITH YOUR STUDENTS?!
>YOU SICK FUCK!
>ME, MY FRIENDS, AND MY CAT WILL MENTALLY DESTROY YOU!

>Who need they teachussy ate?
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>>743406415
Persona has been trending into "stress free" experiences for a while.
I think its a Wada thing because Hashino has worked in SMT, he probably still had some desire to offer some challenge even if still easier but there was pushback.
Now Royal, Reload and Revival have no care for having any difficulty.
To the very least money should have been similar to Nocturne or Apocalypse level of price inflation for that perk.
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Do I play the first one for the royale one? Are there any big differences like p4 vs p4g? I actually preferred OG p4s difficulty.
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>>743406928
Do you want to fuck Kasumi, or not?
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>makes girl try suicide because how abusive he was, basically a slaver.
>Makes mc feel like a badass for fucking his hot teacher
Yeah same situation
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>>743406928
Royal is significantly easier and chariot rank 7 alone ruins the game's challenge, but Royal's new scenario is pretty neat.
But let's be real, there's always a way to trivialize any Persona game if you want to, and vanilla P5 is the 2nd easiest in the series aside from P5R. It's not like they took a well-designed game and ruined it, they took a toddler game and made it a baby game.
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>>743398585
I had an english teacher that looked like this. Except she had an ugly face and was a total bitch that you could tell did not want to be there.
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Because Kamoshida looks too much like Justin Trudeau which triggered the girls and made them remember how much he raped and ruined Canada which made them remember the Japanese internment camps in Canada during WWII which sorta made them more attracted to him but that confusion of lust and disgust was too much to bear.

Kawakami is also problematic though, because she forces the player to choose between her and sexy goth doctor
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>>743400921
And the entire game is about living in a society
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>>743392164
women are naturally weak and submissive, an 18 year old highschool boy can easily destroy and kill a 40 year old hag, men naturally have power and it is wrong to exercise it
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Son dibujos cabrones, calmados
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>>743395051
The aoc is 13 in Japan.
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>>743392164
Because hot female teacher plus cute male student is fine. The other isn't, fag.
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>>743408957
Hot female student with attractive athlete teacher isn't hot?
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>>743392654
Not if it's a woman
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>>743409453
No that's icky
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>>743408425
It's 16 dummy
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Why can't you guys like women your own age? They're not all bad, you know. Lusting over young girls and hags is weird.
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>>743409701
it's 12 actually
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>>743409453
you're a cuck faggot and you should rope yourself if you justify Kamoshida
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>>743392164
Most dream to do here what kamoshida did here without repercussions, knowing this place maybe even with younger students
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>>743392164
Because I'm not the teacher
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>>743392164
men and women are different. Also as a framing trick it literally never feels like Kawa is in control, abusing her power, nor the aggressor
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>>743392654
then don't have sex with your wife either.
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>>743392164
>underaged sex is okay when im the underaged
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>>743408425
Pedophile for certain
>>743397397
Pedophile (kinda, not as much—hard to explain this one)
>>743409701
Wrong and a pedophile for sure
>>743410087
You wish, pedophile. WAHH.
>>743392365
Pedo incel, mad cause under 5’6 and Norwood level 99 pink level can’t beat the boss in one try speedrun any percent.
>>743397704
Definitely a pedo, this one I have 0 doubts about
>>743398440
Gay and a pedophile, likes the masculine woman
>>743403524
1000% pedophile here, projects their projection always—any reply from them is a concession. In fact, act for a photo of their hands with a timestamp. You’ll never lose again to pedos like this.
>>743408414
Doesn’t speak English, pedophile
>Your local friendly Pedo Detector is here!
You’re welcome, /r/videogames !
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>>743392164
If Kamoshida was a pretty boy and looked close to Akihiko he would be getting a pass
Same way people defend a retard like Akechi
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>>743392164
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>>743392164
Because it's okay when a woman does it.
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>>743392164
From the people who brought you "OP is a colossal faggot", we are proud to present the latest chapter in the 256 part series of "Anon makes the same thread over and over again pretending to not understand consent, coercion, and violence and spends most of his day pointlessly bumping it."
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>>743415026
This but unironically
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>>743392164
Teachers shouldn't be in a relationship with their students. That much is a given. Adult education's a little more different, but high school is a time where students are still developing mentally, emotionally and socially, not to mention this is also when most teenagers are having sexual awakenings.

When viewing Kamoshida and Kawakami through the lens of the high school teenage experience, however, you see that both characters are different facets of teenage sexual awakenings. Kawakami represents the experience many teenagers have had about having a crush on a teacher. Her circumstances are designed to remove as much of the teacher/student power imbalance as possible: She's genuinely kind and compassionate, and the main character has blackmail that would ruin her life should he choose to divulge it. Kamoshida, on the other hand, represents the opposite. The teacher/student power imbalance is exaggerated to the nth degree, and it's meant to incite feelings of unfairness and trauma to impressionable teenagers.

Persona 5 is designed to be the ultimate power-fantasy to anyone who feels like they've been slighted by life. Heaps of people hated a teacher that they felt was a creep (or was abusing their power) and heaps of people fantasised about being in a relationship with one of their teachers. So, the game designed the characters to cater to those feelings and give the player catharsis in achieving their unrealistic fantasies.
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>>743410035
It really doesn't have as much to do with preference as you think.
How it works is desirable women all get snatched up when they are young. No way around it. Then they end up in long term relationships (because that's one of the qualities that makes them desirable in the first place) that either work out or they don't. Then the ones who they leave their relationships are still desirable and will get snatched up again.
So you see there is a gap there. This is why it seems men prefer young girls and older women but not the ones in the middle. Men don't necessarily dislike women their own age but at a certain age those women are simply undesirable.
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>>743392164
One thing people forget is that Kawakami finds out Joker is a Phantom Thief by the rank where you romance her.
So she knows Joker held the power in the relationship, she knows Joker is a thief working outside the law and knows that he is already more mature than most adults around her.
She fucking him is 100% okay. If she doesn't give Joker away to the authorities then might as well be an accomplice and get fucked.
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>>743392164
Because it's YA fiction and that runs on hypocrite takes which exist to build up the protag's self-worth so the customer doesn't an hero.
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>>743416119
Quality post
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>>743392654
It's explicitly stated by Kawakami in game that there won't be any sexual stuff until he graduates.
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you dont understand
a teacher telling a girl that he will beat the living shit out of her friend and the school wasn't going to do anything to him because of his prestige is the exact same as a teacher that tells a student they shouldnt have these feelings for them and explains the power imbalance but the student still pursues her is totally the SAME THING (legally yes, morally no)
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>>743402118
Maxing social links is utterly trivial in Royal, I kind of assume it was in vanilla too
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>>743398440
Sex with her feet
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