>MOVE THAT BODY, MOVE THAT BODY. MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HURT NOBODY. I SAY HEY... HEY, HEY! COME ON, GIRL. LET ME ROCK YOUR WORLD!
>>743399017finished it a few days ago. what a beautiful ending.
God the colors look so much better in the original. They made reload way too bright and oversaturated.
I never felt like
>>743399439>>743399557>>743399570*insert piano followed by singing*
I think new game plus should retain your social link progress to make getting the true ending easier without a guide
>>743400848YUKARI HAS TITS THIS BIG??? HOLY FUCKING SHIT!
>>743400848imagine artificial academy 3 looking like this
KIMI WA NE
>>743401186I wiiill neveeer leeaave you
>I ONCE ran away from the GOD OF FEAR. AND HE CHAINED ME TO DESPAIR, YEAH!
I only played and finished the remake, is the original worth playing? is the remake a downgrade or an upgrade in terms of soul?
>>743401448>is the remake a downgrade or an upgrade in terms of soul?massive downgrade
>>743401448I liked Persona 3 enough to buy P4 and the PSP/Vita versions.Metaphor and Reload have made me give up on Atlus.
>>743401448I think seeing the rooftop in FES compared to Reload would make a person weep tears.
ALREADY LOST MY KEYSTO THE DOOR WIDE SHUTONLY HAVE ONE WISHNOW IT'S NEVER GONNA COME TRUEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69q6lWeaCmk
>>743399017COW COW COW COW
>>743401794>P4 and the PSP/Vita versions.unplayable because they changed chie's vocie
For me, it's the 2012 versionhttps://youtu.be/1Ls_GFfYvMQ?t=8741
>>743401540can't be that bad vro, p4r is disgusting tho but at least p3r had some effort
>>743402517AAAAAAH ANALYZE NOW! ANALYZE IT NOW!!!
>>743402517How did the remix fuck this one up so hard?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uhzewBnK58
SHHHHHH.MC is sleeping!
>>743402579you mean jap or eng?
>>743402080Reload was pretty.
>>743400848Social links don't affect the ending. Doing a 100% run just gets you Orpheus Telos.
>>743402707Failure to realize that the drums were the most important part.
>>743402782soulless
>>743403030Anyone who is incapable of understanding beauty without it arbitrarily looking the exact same as their first experience shouldn't speak of soul. You are an automaton, programmed with a kneejerk reaction.
>>743401448Fug playing FES was amazing.It was during my spring break from college, played on emulator, took a full week to finish.
>>743402782>>743403104*cries so hard both of our rooms fill with a water level that is so scary we have to leave our rooms.*I live next to wind turbines and FES accurately captures their size and distance. You intentionally cut off their base meeting the ground to hide how their scale was ruined. It's ironic that you say it doesn't look 1:1. FES paints a realistic picture while... not looking the exact same. Reload tries to be more realistic and makes them look like toy models.
>>743403104>
>>743399017>Steals lyrics from Space Jam
>>743403263are you really masturbating over THESE wind turbines?
>>743401020A shame the retarded modder only made it for their default uniforms so every time they change outfits their tits shrink back>>743402862I meant for the achievement/trophy you do need true endings
>>743403376YOU DON'T GET TO ACT AS FUUKA'S GATEKEEPER, YOU ASS.
>>743403376>stepping in closely while ignoring the bigger picture.one actually captures living beside wind turbines while the other has you think: "wtf, they're not this small?". don't make me grab a pic of the rooftop.
>>743403401Man I love the remake. The only real complaints I have are:>Animated cutscenes are worse>Tziah block too green.>Niflheim was a better looking ultimate ice skill than Diamond Dust.>Can't use all weapon types.
>>743403104>>743402782it's literally a rushed out unreal engine anime game, it's the definition of soulless
>>743403495>don't make me grab a pic of the rooftop.I posted both pics of the rooftop in both versions already you don't have to. You can just use your eyes.
>>743403567I have only seen pictures of anything that isn't what a player sees coming up here, but feel free to wait because I'll get it for you.
>>743403376soul>>743402782soulless
>>743403530The DEI-make sucks ass, you nu-nigger.They butchered the OST, VA, art-style, cinematics, script, characters, and even gameplay.
>>743404546>and even gameplay.This is how everyone knows you're a troll.
>>743404467nta, but that anon was talking about reload's scenery looking prettier which it does. it has more impact and is quite pleasing to look at. that is not a matter of soul
>>743404971sorry but the wind turbines in reload look like tabletop models placed on a board
>>743404971LMAO
>>743402293Don't you make me do thisDon't you make me do this
>>743403567I went through the entire intro for you. And what I see, is what I see when I look at the turbines at home.
>Play Persona 3 Portable>Want to hook up with Junpei>He friendzones meIt hurts.
thank you guys for shitting on the thread about the reload, i don't mind because>SO DANCE, WHEN I PUT YOU IN A TRANCE, LET'S PARTY. BOOGIE IN YOUR BODY. ..MOVE THAT BODY, MOVE THAT BODY, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HURT NOBODY!who do you like most? i like elizabeth.
P3F is the only real version, the rest are shallow petty imitations of the true game
>>743406484FES is a shitty re-release, though
>>743406587it's an upgrade fool
>>743401186https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZL75O6ykyQ
>>743401794>Metaphor and Reload have made me give up on Atlus.Sounds like you should play a real shin maygoomy tensay game.
>>743407004ROYAL FLUSH AND I'M THE ACE.
>>743406823FES is a demake.
>>743407070SMT 5 Vengeance mogs literally all the other modern Fatlus games, it's not even close
Apparently a game that just came out today has a guest track from Meguro and Lotus Juice.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjnoEulFT9oThere's also one with Takenobu Mitsuyoshi for general Sega fans.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iI4cS-xxew
Beat it last month, why did he fall asleep at the end
playing P4G for the first time after only having played P4 on my PS2 and man this shit feels like I'm cheating. I had a fucking level 37 Ose with Brave Blade thanks to shuffle time. kind of fun in a >lemme see how busted I can getway like Morrowind but I'm starting to see why people think P4 is an easy game with infinite resources. >>743407589he ate a big plate of ribs during lunch that day and caught the itis
>>743407589Socializing is exhausting. Click to wake him up.
I like every version of P3 except Portable.
>>743407992Finally a good fuckin post.
>>743407589Wouldn't YOU be tired if you spent a whole damn year destroying your sleep cycle to swing a sword and run up stairs all the fucking time?Let the man sleep.
>>743407992I liked portable well enough when I played it on my actual PSP, but emulating/playing the port is really shit. game feels best on actual hardware
>>743408253I played FES first so PSP felt like shit no matter what I tried.
>>743408286I played P3 original first, and yeah it's certainly a very compromised version of the game but I thought it was quaint how they handled the overworld stuff. Feels worse when you're playing the game on a device that can also play FES that's for sure, but as a handheld experience with the FeMC route it's pretty alright. though it getting the modern port over FES is a crying shame, basically set up P3R to be the "definitive" version of Persona 3 for people who are filtered by emulation.
>>743401448I liked the remake, for what it's worth.I still think playing FES on hard continues to be a valuable SMT experience since you actually get challenged by the gameplay in some points, which is rare in the Persona side of things.
>>743408581>basically set up P3R to be the "definitive" version of Persona 3I'm cool with that. I never respected the idea of the FeMC to begin with. Compromising the game's vision for fanservice like that is a terrible idea.
>>743399017sex with titsuru
>>743408661I mean the game HAD to compromise anyway right given the format and platform. giving us some new stuff to play in that compromised version of the game made it much more worthwhile than >P3 but worseif the game only had the male MC.
Sorry bros.SO DANCE, WHEN I PUT YOU IN A TRANCE...
alice
>>743401186>>743401268It's been 20 years since we lost our boy. Atlus, conclude Elizabeth's story from P4 Arena and let us save our boy from his fate.
>>743410249Her story won't "conclude" for thousands of years.And it did, off-screen when MC's soul was freed to the cycle of reincarnation and he was reborn as Will.
>>743402782it's selectively pretty
>>743410340Looks fine to me.
>>743399017Japanese games lost their way once they stopped using random stock rap samples.
>>743410382Persona: Trinity Soul (persona 3 "sequel" anime that nobody wants to talk about ever) at least had that right.https://youtu.be/Exg2zHQwhJ4
>>743410454trinity soul had a better soundtrack than the concept deserved desu
>>743410308No... Elizabeth doesn't deserve this...
>>743408595Is that THE table??
>Party members are friends with one another instead of just the MC>They exist and develop even without the MC present>They stay relevant to the story after you recruit them>Others are understandably mean to the MC sometimes>Power trips are earned>The friendship and camaraderie with SEES by the end of the game feels earnedActually insane to think about after playing P5
>>743410454Glad Atlus didn't stick with that shit concept of losing your Persona when you age.
>>743411052Yeah it really puts it into perspective. I think the only scenes we get to see without Joker present in P5 are the evil scheming guys Shido is allied with, and some Maruki centric scenes in Royal.
>>743411052Persona 4's switch to a 'the whole party exists to orbit the main character' approach has done irreparable damage to the series, I fear
>>743411176yeah that was a retarded way to create melodrama in P:TS.
>>743411052They were still wearing off the 1 and 2-isms, where the protagonists were central to the narrative, but not who everything literally orbited around even despite Maya's circumstances. Like, holy goddamn Persona 4 basically precludes EVERYTHING wrong with later Japanese media MCs where so much just exists to orbit (You) like a self-insert awesome fest, I wouldn't even be surprised if alongside other stuff it was one of the big progenitors of the media push. By that effect, 5 basically was the logical extreme of full self-insert importance in a visual novel territory.
>>743411201I at least think it worked well for 4 since it led to Yu being perceived as a gigachad, which was pretty unique for a megaten protag, and a great contrast from Door. Joker having the exact same dynamic with his group was where it fell apart.
>>743411442We'll have another Door-like in P6. Sanguine and Choleric are the more charismatic types.
>>743411442honestly he borderline feels like a parody in hindsight the way things turned out, especially in both anime. just, the guy that everything orients around, but in the end besides a few moments he's a brick of a character besides getting really fucking pissed over nanako.meanwhile besides some eccentric dialogue choices and some big smirks, joker doesn't even have that going for him, they somehow made a flatter character altogether.
>>743411316>precludesin 2008?
>>743412517The strongest of that stuff started really hitting in the 2010s, so technically yeah.
>>743411052Which is why P3 has the best main cast in the series for me. They are never not relevant to the story and are the only characters that evolve their personas through the story which I hope P6 brings back
>>743399017I NEVER FELT LIKECEMENTING A LIGHTBULB!
The engrish is soul but the rap was so fucking cringe.
>>743413740
>>743399017One of the worst games Ive ever played
>>743411176>>743411234if anything, i feel like older people would naturally have stronger personas. given the nature of, you know, the actual concept of the jungian persona. i think it sort of played with that in a subtle way in P2EP. the primarily adult cast is canonically stronger than the primarily teen cast of P2IS. and adachi can fight the investigation team by himself. (poorly because his boss fight is easy but that's a gameplay thing)
>>743399017If you can understand the lyrics then it's shit
Why did Atlus absolutely refuse to re-release FES and it's always Portable instead?
>>743399017https://youtu.be/4CugyaQzmx8?si=wm2kSe7dshgxoYvXGood ole' sound sampling
>>743401186https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j12-ZUIJpLEI was obsessed with rewatching this trailer
>>743414290So the story goes, FES source code is long gone and Portable is all they have left.
>>743413997you might not have ever played many games i guess
>>743414290people would probably bitch and moan about no party control. people call it soulful these days but back then, a lot of people whined about it and welcomed full party control for P4 and P3P. i feel like it probably wouldn't be that hard to implement it for those people though. there's even a fan mod for it these days.>>743414467actually that's probably an even more believable reason.
>>743413740>>743414245You hear Engrish, cringe while not understanding what the fuck he is saying for hours. Then sit wiith it and before you know you it, you on point say: "and I'm the Ace".
>>743414467Jap devs losing source code is a story as old as time. But that didn't stop Square Enix from literally remaking Kingdom Hearts 1 after taking the final retail release and reworking it. Fucking idiots.
>>743414619I mean at that point Portable isn't quite comparable to 3 since all the field code is gone beyond dungeons, and even if they reskinned P4G back into 3 FES, at that point you may as well have gone the Reload route.Though honestly, give the fans the theoretical opportunity, I wouldn't be surprised if some wackjobs manage to recreate 3 FES in 4 Golden some day.
>>743414573people who shit themselves over no party control are vocal. it's a total wrought from control to a new manner of handling. and yet again, every rpg is... total control, then and now. actual people like npcs they can handle but barely control. release an rpg now, with tactics and if reviewer articles tell people how to handle the ai rather than random hitpieces about no control, you'll see people actually say "erm, i want friendly npcs that have some freedom in what they do against my discretion". instead of muh i can't control them. optics matter entirely, i'm sure npc lovers got swayed by some faggot who wanted total control over his party member.
>>743414715I don't like how much of a VN P3P feels like, it really detracts from the overall feel of the game when you're just staring at what's effectively screenshots the entire time>>743414845I feel like a majority of the criticism for no party control in FES comes from the fact that your party members can get charmed into healing enemies/bosses (of course the infamous example, as I'm sure you can hazard a guess)
>>743414845sorry, i'm shitting on this thread but i'm just lamenting how DA:O got shit on and Persona fell for the same trap
>>743414245This is actually true in the case of P4R.It's like they got pissed off that people lightheartedly made fun of the Engrish vocals in Persona games, so in these new versions of the songs, they make the girl enunciate the fuck out of every single syllable. It sounds very forced, and doesn't flow with the music at all.
>>743414941i bet most of the people who shat on it first didn't even reach enemies who are able to charm you. people just don't like having an idea and it being something else. because having a full party with three that do what they want, is just that. "aw man, you should have chained weaknesses, not go for the kill". it stacks but i don't mind it and love it.the majority shat on dragon's dogma. you work with what the system provides and make them flourish. both of these games give you the frameworks to make them do what you want to, that's the worst part. because most people don't give a shit while it gives the most emergent moments of gameplay.i wouldn't have liked fes if i were to directly control everyone's actions nor would i have liked dragons dogma by telling everyone what to do. it's what you as a player work with.
>>743414972I said it specifically because I saw another anon say the same shit in regards to the OST of P4R and I'm just echoing it because it's the truth.
>>743415213
>>743415213>>743415297OK, but we're not shitting on being the royal flush and you being the ace, right? All of your Dempsey Rolls smack down hard, btw. And I'm no ref even if I took my gloves off.
>>743415202It gives a sense of realism to the people in your party. These are meant to behave and feel like real people, aren't they? So naturally you'd have no decision over what they do. It kinda has a "Life goes on" feel to it, which ironically corresponds to the main theme of Persona 3 in regards to death and those who are affected by it. But I'm probably speaking out my ass.
>>743414945>bitter persona AND DA:O fagholy based
My fuarking hero
>>743415454I like it. It's like you're just one guy in the team doing your own part, and not the god controlling everything. I always leave the party to act freely in the games. Except in boss battles that will fuck you up unless every move is ideal, that sucks
>>743415454no, you aren't. because they work with what was analyzed, and for a boss that has no weaknesses. to waste a turn into thinking wow, i shouldn't have used this, it just got blocked, i won't ever use this now after this turn, is neat. but it's an obstacle of frustration to deal with. because we know it would be blocked already and they didn't but learned of it just now. as you said, it fills them with personality. i like working with and around that. you're not speaking out of your ass. because every fight is a first time and for us it might be the second. you aren't talking shit.
>>743415751In Persona 3 more than 4 and 5 you very much are just another guy, really. I mean sure, you obviously have the wild card and have multiple personas, and Mitsuru immediately names you the leader, but you're far from the first person to actually get your persona. The party doesn't necessarily revolve around you the way it does in 4 and 5. SEES was already an ongoing operation by the time you join it. You may be strong, but you're far from the only person in the world, as it were.
>>743415454Nope I agree. It was my favorite part about P3. Very rare for a JRPG to not just feel like a spreadsheet optimization problem. The slight ammount of randomness that your party members bring, including their own styles of "play" made it fun and also made party selection more relevant than normal.
>>743415454nah i agree, it adds to it. though i think there could be a middle ground too, like if you can set up specific 'if, then' triggers for them too. limited in number and maybe locked behind higher slink ranks, to represent them trusting you more. just for simple but specific stuff like 'always buff at the start of a fight', 'always heal X when they go under _%', etc. so not full ff12/dao
>>743416275Or, just here me out for second You can control your party members like a normal JRPG
>>743416275Or just let you make their decisions for them during boss fights, like having Junpei or Yukari saying "This looks like a tough enemy... Just tell me what needs to be done, okay?"
Is it worth it to hack a Vita just to play Persona 2?
>>743416346i'd rather have them eat shit because of their own idea of what to do than me outright saying: YUKARI ATTACK NOW. even if yukari uses dia to heal me when i really needed her to attack the enemy for me to kill it next turn so we finally pass the encounter.we're sort of stuck in what works for controllers and what the sphere wants and nobody wants to deal with conditionals which sort of spurred itself into the idea of just letting the player control every move which is far removed from creating action schemes or soft suggestions on what to do.
>>743411201At least in 4 the characters still interacted with each other. 5 was fully retarded in this regard.
>>743399557said no one ever
>>743416561>t. Reshade user
DISTURBING THE BEESFLEW INTO MY EYESSSS
>>743416554yeah that's why people whined about the Haru arc, because the characters weren't interacting with anyone but Joker /s
>>743414412same here bro
>>743416586If the slight lighting change is such a departure from the original vision to you people, enough to warrant making seethe posts 2 years later, then where the fuck is this ire for FF7R when it's basically not even the same game anymore?Oh no, the carpet is slightly greener than it used to be. Are you fucking kidding me? Try being an SE fan where they literally gutted Cid's entire backstory to the point that he stops being a space man and becomes a simp for Aerith's mom. Shera's not even in the game anymore. Greener carpet? Cry me a fucking river.God Atlus fans are such babies. They have it so fucking good that this is all it takes to set them off. I wish FF still had this luxury.
>>743416809>then where the fuck is this ire for FF7R when it's basically not even the same game anymore?You really don't browse those threads when 90% of it is shitposting about 7R being different, 5% defense force, and 5% shitposting about the rest of FF.
>>743416885Literally all I see is defense force and waifu wars. I NEVER see people shitting on 7R's story changes.
>>743416918Then you weren't here in 2020. The whole catalog was filled with threads ridiculing the Time Jannies.It's cooled down some since most people who cared just didn't buy Rebirth and don't have the new material to talk about.
Triple brown triple brown triple brown meow
>>743416975Yeah, 2020. Exactly. People were slightly angry over literal plot overhaul and forgot in 2 weeks. Atlus fags are having melties over greener carpet 2 years later. Feels almost like an SE psyop.
>>743416809>>743416975>>743417060I'm a Time Janny and I can state how the visual changes in Reload aren't mere lighting changes. I would know, because I retroactively changed everything to make you not notice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgj1ATrIFMQNever noticed that Mitsuo's line was different
>>743399017CUM ON GURR LEMME ROCK UR WHIRL
>>743417006triple brown triple brown triple meow triple brown meow *insert trumpets* YEAH!
>>743416975history niggas
>>743417282TIME TO SHINE, AND I'M DOWN TO RIDEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Sn1nFGQQ8&pp=ygUQY29sb3IgeW91ciBuaWdodA%3D%3D
>>743402782>pretty.pretty what? dogshit? soulless? saturated? easy?
One detail that P3R fucked up is that Makoto/Minato's eyes are meant to be gray, because gray eyes carry heavy symbolic meaning relating to wisdom and prophecy. Not to start a whole argument, but reportedly, Jesus was alleged to possess blue-gray eyes, for example.
>>743399017anyone got recs for albums/artists that scratch the same itch as the p3 soundtrack?
>>743399017Playing it right now, I miss when Persona was good.
>>743414290
>>743414594No the problem is that the random rap samples are understandable which makes it far worse than everything else.It is jarring hearing nonsense english lyrics come through clear in a game where everything else is unintelligible. The soundtracks to these games ride on basically being instrumentals that use a human voice.
>>743418418They're gray in Reload I don't know what you're smoking
