I plan on playing through the Mother series soon, starting with 1. What should I know in advance?
>>743403694Start with Dragon Quest 1 if you actually want to understand MOTHER 1
>>743404326I've actually already played DQ 1 and 2.
>>743403694Mother 1 has way too many random encounters and feels like a tedious grind through much of itMother 2 is amazing but the difficulty curve is kind of fucked up, the very start is by far the hardest part and then it gets easy mode once you get Jeff because the enemy scaling doesn't keep up at allMother 3 has pretty good balance and gameplay through the whole thingall three have great theming and a unique sort of forced nostalgia feeling
>>743403694You should know that Earthbound Beginnings is pretty simple and fun and that you should be careful when speaking to people because they'll get you sick, which is not easy to treat.
>>743403694>What should I know in advance?It's an archaic JRPG and I'd normally recommend getting a patch and a guide, but since you said you play that sort of game then you might be fine.The official translation isn't very accurate to the japanese text, so I'd recommend getting a patch for that.
Mother 1 original is grinding and you should play the version that makes it less fucking grindyYoure not missing anything by playing the original version
>>743404494>>743404646>recommending the gay patched version that decreases random encountersCongratulations. You faggots didn't beat the game and you should shut the fuck up and stop giving bad advice.
I say play Mother 3 first.Play the Gba port of mother 1 and yes, use the easy ringPlay the snes earthbound, possibly patch out the censorship with one of the hacks, but vanilla is perfectly fine. Try mother 2 deluxe if you want, but that ones better for a second playthrough.
>>743404751Youre a nigger and a faggotHow's about that?
>>743404827You're a nigger and a faggot and you still didn't beat the game because you have to cheat by playing patched versions that make it easier for you. Stop posting immediately.
ive noticed there has been a bit of a resurgence of mother discussion. why is that? has something happened? genuinely curious.
>>743404874There's a lot of indie game that take heavy inspiration from Mother, which has boosted the series' profile.
Holy shit, fucking faggot janny
>>743404874It's because of DELTARUNE NIGGA ITS CUZ OF DELTA RUNERALSEI KRIS SANS PAPYRUS NOELLE SPAMTON DELTA RUNE DELTA RUNE YUP DELTA RUNE FLOWERY AQUA TORIEL ASSSSGORE
>>743405197MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
>>743405197You can calm down, [he] was here before you even posted.
>>743404874Because the jannies and mods have a vendetta against Deltarune threads under the guise of "generals belong on /vg/". Thus, the Deltrannies have been creating stealth threads instead of giving up and going to /vg/, an altchan, or most preferable of all, a Discord server.Yes, Deltarune is a bigger blight unto the board than the /pol/shit, goonshit, Twitter screenshit, ecelebshit, Palworld threads that are recurring enough to be generals, consolewar threads that are recurring enough to be generals, and so on, and so on.
>>7434036943>2>1Love them all though
>>743405023i guess, but undertale was already heavily mother inspired, but i feel like i didnt see a lot of mother discussion in the years after that was popularized either. ive even seen mother videos become recommended to me on youtube after years of not seeing the game at all and i do not consume any undertale/deltarune content nor have i played the games. might just be the algorithm doing the algorithm thing, i guess.
>>743405303Really, you actually want "deltrannies" to have a discord to actually organize raids instead of it being a guerilla operation? Thats preferable to you?
>>7434036941 is completely unplayable, 2 is great if it's 1995 and you're 12 years old but I can't imagine getting too much out of it otherwise, 3 was great the first time through when everything was new but when I replayed it I got really mad at how it interrupts you every 10 steps for more tedious dialogue
>>743405430Its because i started talking about it in the real world, you can say you're welcome for me reviving the mother series now. Mother 4 soon
>>743405447Why would they want to raid 4chan if all they want to do is circlejerk each other over which tranny animal or pedobait child they want to fuck while crying about theories?
>>743405303>Yes, Deltarune is a bigger blight unto the board than the /pol/shit, goonshit, Twitter screenshit, ecelebshit, Palworld threads that are recurring enough to be generals, consolewar threads that are recurring enough to be generals, and so on, and so on.How?
>>743405471Its only unplayable if you're a philistine
>>743405519Because you don't see any of those getting mercilessly nuked on-sight by jannies and mods. Which confirms Deltarune is a bigger issue to them than any of those aforementioned common threads.
>>743405498Out of spite for faggots like you I'd reckon.
>>743404786>Mother 3 firstMadness! The villain would have much less significance if you didn't know him from before. You would think he's just some random weirdo who shows up suddenly. And a huge portion of the last chapter is references, so you'd be missing out on the throwbacks if you started with Mother 3. Imagine ruining the nostalgia boat scene for yourself...
>>743403694Playing them till the end is kinda boring desu, games have charm and some neat ideas, but the writing and pace can be a mess
>>743403694Honestly I think you should go EarthBound>Mother 3>Mother 1. 2 and 3 are pretty well-balanced RPGs that are easy to pick and play you are used to the genre. Also Mother 3 is a direct follow-up to EarthBoundMother 1 is weird. Even though Giygas is in both 1 and 2, he's basically a different character in both games.Mother's gameplay is also kind of a slog with the super high encounter rate and having to level two of your main party members from level 1. It's hard-carried by story, which admittedly is very charming, and the soundtrack, which is one of the best on the NES. I would say play Mother 1 up to the Zoo or Magicant, and if it's too much of a pain, play the easy ring fan patch or SNES fan remake. This is coming from someone who played the original version of Mother 1 first.
>>743405498posting 'rune gets threads deleted, something an organized discord could perfectly weaponize. I'd prefer if this wasn't happening.
>>743405558>Because you don't see any of those getting mercilessly nuked on-sight by jannies and modsSo?
>>743403694haven't played 1 but I did play 2. I was told to start with that as base Mother1 is a kick in the 'nards if you're not used to the battle system
>>743405587I dunno, there is something to be said for being able to go back and experience and understand all the references after you play mother 2 as well. Really it just depends on tolerance. I'd suggest M3 first because in spite of borrowing a bit from 2 it doesn't reallg matter to the overall story exactly WHO certain characters are. Though, since the OP does play "archaic" (i love dragon quest) jrpgs he might actually be best off starting with M1GBA or Earthbound. But Mother 3 is really self contained if you think about it.
>>743405617earthbound always felt like a reboot or reimagining of mother 1 similar to Pathologic 2. not that it renders the previous game obsolete or anything, but just a differently realized version of the original.
>>743405674You asked "how" Deltarune is a bigger problem. I answered.
>>743405303Deltarune threads where pretty much constantly the fastest threads on /v/ This apparently angered the jannies and Mods A LOT. That threads are getting deleted for even associating with it vaguely makes many believe theres more to it.Its surprisingly aggressive for no reason meanwhile you have ritual schizoposters, porn threads, and twitter screenshot threads continue like nothing.
>>743403694This series runs exclusively off Japanese celebrity fanwank regarding Shigesato Itoi that isn't relevant to Americans. It's the equivalent of Wallace Shawn designing a video game in the 90s.
>>743405774You just reiterated that mods are deleting delatrune threads. You didn't explain how they're a bigger problem than the other things you listed.
>>743405617^^^ThisLearning Giygas's backstory in Mother 1 is kind of cool, but he is still just as cool of a villain if you all you know about him is "Giygas is the unfathomably powerful universal cosmic destroyer, go stop him."
>>743405794It's personal hate, the same kind of hate that eventually completely killed Umamusume threads.
>>743405197anon, the faggot janny is already monitoring. If its too fast, talks about the forbidden topic or hurts his fee-fees too much it gets pruned.
>>743404646>>743404494
>>743405838What is there to explain? If the other topics were bigger problems, they would have been getting deleted with the same vigilant ferocity that Deltarune threads experience, to the point that non-Deltarune threads can get nuked under the assumption that they're stealth Deltarune threads.All those other kinds of threads aren't deleted with the same constant frequency or vigilance. Most of them reach bump limit and die naturally, even.
Mother 1 is fun if you have a full sized game map open to reference constantly.
>>743405912What? Nobody fucking hates mother 1, but you're being delusional if you cant even admit that it does slog with the grinding
>>743405801true. only thing i care about with this game is the soundtrack. never played this shit. the soundtrack has this nice kind of Boards of Canada-esque hypnagogic quality to it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUoN4lfF0hEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6iBJaRIOzQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA6SCuWURm8
>>743405838NTA but it's the same kind of reasoning that led to the famous "cultural phenomenon" quote. I just want you to remember that all the AI slop threads, Peach ERP threads, Frogposter threads, fatfag threads, barafag threads, Shilltendo Shitch 2 threads, Gaystation threads, and Palworld generals are all given the ABIB Seal of Approval
>>743405927> If the other topics were bigger problems, they would have been getting deleted with the same vigilant ferocity Meanwhile in reality known ritual schizo posters have been running free for YEARS
>>743405912To be fair, Earthbound is essentially Mother 1 but better.(Hot take, the real problem with Mother 1 isn't the grinding, it's the fact the battle animations are SO SLOW)
>>743403694magicant equipment is OP
>>743404874A Mother 1 remake romhack just came out
>>743403694Damn you bastard bloody bitch sir I launched Nintendulator for a NES emulator for Earthbound Beginnings but when I got to the phone and it said it saved the game IT DID NOT SAVE THE GAME. Is this because this is some modern Nintendo emulator shit and it doesn't save games normally and only does save states, or is something fucked up?Regards,Anonymous
>>743406204Its happened to me too on hardware.I have no idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI3PobnV_js>Don't hesitate to come visit whenever you're having a hard time.>Everyone here loves you.
>play Earthbound first>"wow this is amazing">play Mother 1 and 3>they're... not as good
>>743406272Well shit. Not the most comforting answer but at least it's something. Maybe I'll look into that SNES version in the hopes it's a bit more stable, thanks anon
>>743406318>play mother 3 first>"wow this is amazing">try earthbound>holy fuck this is unplayable
>>743406340Well. Keep in mind its the gba port, but yeah.
>>743406318I had a better time with Mother 1 than EB. Granted i was on easy ring and fucked my EB run by playing on phone on the bus.
>>743403694ps2 rock band guitar hero algorithm
>>743406394Playing Mother 1 then 2 back to back made me appreciate the sequel a lot more
>>743404751I don't like this sort of gameplay and it being hard only makes the experience worse.I play Earthbound for the story and aesthetics.>>743405912Wrong, I'm disappointed by Mother 3 instead.
>>743406375Mother 3 is a generic narrative-driven JRPG with a fantasy setting. Plus the story is very, very stupid.
>>743406592So is fucking final fantasy 10, both games are masterpieces anyways, even if you don't get the story
>>743405794>many believe theres more to it.There’s a glowop to make the site intentionally shitty and boring and also having everyone ignore advertisement threads (GTA 6) makes it too obvious the western industry is deadLike half the fucking board atm is engagement bait for Sony
>>743406691No matter what I will never buy a sony game
>>743404646>Mother 1 original is grinding and you should play the version that makes it less fucking grindythe problem with literally any hack that does this is that it makes the game tedious in a completely different way where you just hold down Attack and steamroll every encounter
>>743405927maybe deltatroons shouldn't fill the catalog with 70 threads that have 3 posts each
>>743406654FF is a shit franchise.>even if you don't get the storyBut I do, that's why I see how stupid it is, whereas you're unable to see this.Earthbound played it smart by not focusing on a central plot in the first place. Same for the characterization, but I could go on.
>>743403694Unless you're very familiar with NES JRPGs, fucking don't play Mother 1 first. Earthbound is just as good a starting point
>>743406592The only generic fantasy element of M3's setting is Osohe Castle. Tazmilly is a pilgrim inspired village, for example, and the only other JRPG series which has towns like it is Wilds Arms.
>>743407145fuck off, toby does not even begin to compare to itoi in terms of sheer life experience
>>743407170Toby lost his first girlfriend to a butch lesbian so that’s more than I ever had life wise
just got ebbri forgot i had downloaded ebb a few years back with the explicit intention to play it, but never didfrom what little i've seen of mother it seems like the most kino of the trilogy
>>743407145Fuck off and die.
>>743403694I did the same thing a while back, playing the games emulated (so no remaster stuff).I wouldn't necessarily recommend 1, but I wouldn't dissuade someone from playing it either. It's a really interesting and ambitious game, but there's nothing it does better than 2. And since 2 is pretty much a reboot (gigye -> gigyas is basically a completely different character that completely ignores 1's ending lol) you can safely skip 1 and miss nothing.But it's still an interesting game and I enjoyed my time with it, I'd say it's worth playing. There's some really interesting RPG mechanics in it that you won't see anywhere else, like how enemies are just as susceptible as you to the Death Ray type attacks, or the ones that leave them on just 1 HP. That's neat.The encounter rate is INSANE and it definitely is pretty grindy, those comments are true. However, what people aren't telling you is that it's also extremely short. The whole game is about 12ish hours long. So it's not like you're grinding multiple times for multiple hours, you do maybe 30mins to 1hr of grind total. There's a lot of busy work, dealing with the ridiculous encounter rate until you get the repel type item, but otherwise its fine. 2 is clearly better in every single way, but 1 is fine. If you're interested in it, it won't take you long to get through it.
>>743407247trust me it's better to be a virgin. toby was touched by the demon cult, otherwise he wouldn't have made "the baby is you"
>>743407265Tell that to the janny retard people wouldn’t make sneaky DR threads as mother threads if the jannies weren’t all faggots
>>743404326Why is that?
>>743404874Combination of earthbound beginnings remake releasing and one of the only good runs at sgdq was mother
>>743406318I enjoyed Earthbound, but it was so painfully, clearly aimed at young children that a large part of it just washed over me. If I'd been playing it at 8 or 12 or 14 or something, I'm sure it would have been amazing, but playing it at 30 it didn't hit like I wanted, not after years and years of everyone hyping it up.
>>743406095true strength comes from within
>>743405303>>743405558>>743405774>>743405927Sorry that your janitor application didn't go through
>>743403694Mother 1 sucks, start with Earthbound
>>743407636what? a huge part of the appeal is that you can replay the games like every decade and get something new out of them
>>743405847even in mother 3 his influence lives on. porky has been corrupted by giygas so much he became an eternal 9 year old psychopath in an immortal body treating living beings like toys and starting shit across space and time. when porky stumbled upon tazmily it was like a creative minecraft player full of the most depraved mods finding an untouched village
>>743407354Mother 1 has a more somber tone due to the fact that it's played mostly straight. It's not really a jokey game like other two.
>>743403694That you can skip 1. Anyone who says otherwise is a tryhard.
>>743407732That's true, things like the reveal about your Grandmother, and the destruction of Magicant (back in 2 though lololo) were played straight and dramatic, which the other games don't do. But it's still a pretty silly game, the second enemy you fight is a Hippie lul.
>>743405303I made a real fucking earthbound threads the other day after finishing the beginnings romhack and I got fucking banned for it because these retard fucking nigger mods don't actually bother opening the threads, there was literally zero fucking mention of deltatale and still get fucked because "it's a general"Fuck you especially nigger if you think deltatroon threads are the worst thing on this board you need to kill yourself, faggots like you are why this entire board is nothing but shitposting and pornbait threadsGo on ban me again for complaining about the dog shit moderation on this site again, at least mods on other boards do their fucking jobs properly, the only thing stopping /v/ from being /b/ 2.0 is being a blue board
Favorite line of dialogue across the series?
>>743403694skip 1
>>743407694Maybe if you first played them as a kid, playing them as an adult I got more out of 1 than 2. 2 barely has a plot, and when it tries any kind of emotional moment it fell utterly flat for me. As a kid, having the game cheer me on in an electronic message would have been amazing, but as an adult I saw exactly what it was setting up before it happened.
>>743405617Honestly I agree with most of this. Mother 1 is pretty rough around the edges, and playing without any walkthrough or guide it can be a bit abrasive. Doing EarthBound before Morher 3 gives you a nice payoff in Mother 3, though not strictly required. And I actually got that feeling playing Mother 1 after EB as well, despite obviously Mother 1 having come first.
>>743407973>and when it tries any kind of emotional moment it fell utterly flat for me.you didn't cry a bit after you got the eight melodies, when the kids defeated giygas and their souls floated back to their bodies or even the part at the end where you all split up?
>>743403694If you're not retarded you should know how old JRPGs work. Its all self admitted and well known dragon quest clones so dont expect people to love these games because of gameplay.Talk to NPCs if you get lost. Equip items every town Yes people are THAT FUCKING RETARDED i have to say this. Ive seen people say earthbound (snes) is hard and they are giga fucking nigger retards. Grind if you do get stuck but only the last dungeon of Mother 1 ever gave me trouble.Dont play the stupid fucking fan remake of 1. Dont play with easy mode cheats. Dont play the GBA version.
The more people I see saying to skip 1, the more I want to tell OP to play it.It's only like 15hrs long, at best, why are you guys so adamant that it should be skipped? It's a perfectly fine game, and it makes you appreciate the later games more.
>>743408050I did not need a walkthrough at all. Did you talk to NPCs and shit?
Is Pipi stronger than Ninten?
>>743407973You're a liar, a retard, a nigger, a faggot, and likely emotionally stunted.
>>743408219yes. unironically keep her in your party as long as you can.
>>743403694Start with earthbound and then play mother 1 as a prequel unless you are used to NES rpg aids
>>743407924If>>743408071>It's only like 15hrs long, at best, why are you guys so adamant that it should be skipped?I think the biggest reason why people say to skip it is because we never got it here in the west. But now it's insane not to suggest it. The second reason is they are fucking games journalist tier retarded when it comes ti RPGs. For undertale kids it might even be the first non Undertale/Deltarune and Pokemon RPG they ever played. Maybe even their first NES game.
>>743407915Honestly painful seeing the state of this board compared to way back before 2010.The worst thing in these faggot mods eyes is "video game we dont like" and not the hordes of off topic shit. Sorry your thread was a casualty in this bullshit
>>743408317>The second reason is they are fucking games journalist tier retarded when it comes ti RPGs. For undertale kids it might even be the first non Undertale/Deltarune and Pokemon RPG they ever played. Maybe even their first NES game>>743408290>unless you are used to NES rpg aidsThanks for proving me right lol
>>743408071It's not a game I think you should skip, but its overall design and balance is more meandering and there's less guidance overall, so it's easier to get lost. The dungeons are also, frankly, unfun, samey corridors. The factory just after you get Lloyd has to be the overall low point, in particular.
>>743408317has nothing to do with difficulty and everything to do with playing like cancer
>>743408071Actually playing M1 can be unpleasant. The random encounters, level design, and occasional need for grinding aren't great. I played it multiple times and I really like some things about it but it just doesn't feel as good to play as Earthbound. It's probably still worth playing especially with the easy patch but I can't entirely fault someone for saying to skip it either.
>>743408246Right now I'm grinding levels out in front of the zoo. Should I do anything else with her before going back to the mayor? I'm at level 12 right now
>>743408145Playing it in short sessions with multiple day breaks between really fucked me up when it came to remembering where towns were on the map and such. Plus I missed a really early melody and had trouble tracking it down.
>>743408452that sounds about right. if you're not leveling up frequently anymore you can drop her.
>>743408071Mother 1 is definitely rough around the edges but I have to say I dont regret my time with it. The dance, despite being janky nes stuff, left an impression on me
>>743408501Got it alright thanks
>>743408501>>743408596When I return her, she's just going to be a super buff little girl lol
>>743406318>>743406375>play Mother 1 first>"this is pretty cool">play mother 2>"wow this is the same thing but on rails">play mother 3>"wow this is fucking boring"
>>743407636Earthbound is *about* childhood, but it's not infantile. It captures the sensations of being a child, but in a way that only an adult could have made.
Dumb question, but is Pippi supposed to be based on Pippi Longstocking?
>>743409019yes
>Mother 1>"awesome game my favorite">Earthbound>"really cool game">Mother 3>"really cool game">appreciate strengths and differences of each even if I'm not totally in love with every aspect
>>743405587nta but I agree. From a gameplay point of view Mother 3 is much more fair to the player than either 1 or 2. It's still difficult, but it's fair. These games have some of the greatest, most impactful endings of any game I've ever played. If one can complete Mother 3, they'll probably play Earthbound too (and maybe also Mother 1 if it converts them into a die-hard). The Earthbound references are all crammed towards the end anyways, so I don't see it being a detriment to a new player. Porky and his army are still great antagonists even ignoring the previous game's existence. Also the ending will make any grown man cry like a bitch. I load up my end-game save every now and then when I'm bored just to feel something.
>>743409019No way, Jose!
>>743409092i don't like mother 3 that much but i'll say that it has the best encounter design in the series
>>743409092Imagine your favorite game not being one that impacted you or one that you had the most fun with, but rather one that was the most "fair". Soulless NPC mindset.You know damn well that you're selling other people short by recommending Mother 3 first. No one should ever do that. Hell no.
>>743409086
>>743403694The Tomato patch + Easy Ring is ideal way to play. I beat it a couple months ago with no issues.>>743405471>>743407739What's with these faggots saying Mother 1 is unplayable? Maybe quit being gay for five minutes.
>>743409029Yeah I feel dumb for now long it took me to make the connection
>>743409092>Also the ending will make any grown man cry like a bitch.Eh, I don't feel like the ending of Mother 3 is ever earned emotionally. Lucas has no personality, Claus is barely in the game before he gets turned into the Masked Man. So the ending didn't really make me feel anything since they barely even characters. The only part of the game that felt like it had emotional weight was when Flint went nuts at the end of his chapter when he found out Hinawa and Claus were dead. The game never hit that level again.
>>743409258Tomato is a fucking faggot and you are a double faggot if you play easy mode
>>743409092>the endings are impactful and emotional> the earthbound stuff is at the ending of Mother 3>therefore you should skip earthbound and undercut the emotional impact of the end of the series You're deranged, lad.
>>743409282>Lucas has no personalityDidn't talk to any NPCs award
>>743409251>Imagine your favorite game not being one that impacted you or one that you had the most fun with, but rather one that was the most "fair".I don't think anything he said implies it's his favorite because it's fair, thoughbeit. Merely that it being fair makes it easier to recommend to people trying to get into the series.
>>743408410Vagueposting retard.
>>743403694recruiting Ana is optional, you can skip her, and it's better if you do too actually
>>743409279Dont look up where Lucas and Claus get their name from. I did it the other day and the book they're from is fucked. Unless you want to read about a retarded girl raping a dog and nazis pissing on kids
>>743409436I never skip Anal
>>743409397Other characters calling him a crybaby doesn't mean shit for character development when he never shows any fear or hesitation once you start playing as him.
>>743409436>recruiting Ana is optionalNever knew this. What happens when Teddy joins the party? Does he still tell Lloyd to pound grass, even with the free party slot?
>>743409578pretty much all scenes that feature her are auto skipped if I remember correctly, even gone in the credits
>>743409436You can also go get Ana as soon as you leave Magicant if you go walk the tracks
>>743409578Wait can you only have 3 party members? Do you need to manage your party and swap members in and out?
>>743409019Yes now sign her petition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYrx-NR9Des
>>743409774i thought you needed to bomb the rock blocking the train tracks first
>>743409523Anal with Ana. As a church girl her vaginal virginity must be preserved.
>>743404874Play the SNES Remake if you haven’t
>>743409871I think you meant to reply to>>743409746
>>743409774It's never really a problem. There's only 4 main party members, anyway, and when number 4 does join he forcefully boots out Lloyd.
>>743404452>you should be careful when speaking to people because they'll get you sick, which is not easy to treatHow could they achieve such realism levels on the NES?
>>743409871That only blocks the path up north to the train track. There is absolutely nothing stopping you from buying a repel ring and walking all the way to Ana's place.
>>743409578no idea cuz teddy's also optional lol
i played earthbound, then mother 3. i want to replay earthbound, but reading that mother 1 is only 15 hours is making me consider playing it before i return to earthbound. i want to play the original. are there any retard tricks you recommend or should i just brute force every encounter?
>>743410312Brute force. Play blind.
>>743409282To be honest, the final boss (let's not spoil what it was) made me tear up a bit. Mainly it had a mechanical component to it which was really visceral and well-executed.I would go so far as to say that Mother 3's final boss may be the singular peak of the franchise even though I'm not that big on 3 as a whole.
>>743410387I will agree that Porky is very well developed, possibly the only well developed character in 3, so that fight does work well.
>>743406114>>743407543This, the casuals are pretending that a romhack is the definitive way of playing M1, it's not
>>743410367will do boss
>>743407924>Queen Mary often has nightmares.>She talks like she's punishing a naughty child, and then cries out about being afraid.>She starts to sing a song, but only a short bit of it.>The fact she can't remember it seems to bring her pain. >Then she wakes up covered in sweat. >Something really sad must've happened to Queen Mary a long time ago...
ORAAAAAAAA KUMATORA SEXOOOOOOOO
>>743408063>Dont play the GBA version.Fuck that I refuse to put up with that dogshit grid movement in the overworld and having to go into the menu every time I want to speak to someone
>>743410312It's a simple game, so there isn't much in the way of tricks. Use bread to make bread crumbs, which are going to be your Exit Mice for dungeons. Random encounters are plentiful, so don't be afraid to pull up a map online so that you can get through areas when you are tired of having battles every 5 steps. Get used to Magicant. You'll be going there a lot. Every new party member starts at level 1, so you're going to want to get used to grinding enemies in Magicant.
>>743403694Just skip 1. Earthbound and M3 are both all-time greats (despite what contrarians will tell you), just know they're extremely different from each other.
>>743410312boomerang is good and anyone can use it
>>743406095Here’s an inspirational quote from the game
>>743410312Make sure you get that second franklin badge. Reducing RNG insta deaths to 1/3 instead of 2/3 is worth it
>>743406318Schizo Attention Whore Behavior
>>743410456Porky is not the final boss, but you already knew what I was referring to.
>>743407902Ninten’s Great Grandparents, that’s how far back it goes
>>743410312The game doesn't necessarily funnel you into all of the macguffins, some of them are just lying around and you might have to backtrack a long way back if you happen to miss one your first time through.
>>743410312Sword of Kings
>>743407636I feel like I appreciated it more by playing it at 30, than any younger. Just beat it & turned 30 earlier this year. Nostalgia's a helluva drug.
>>743408219Thanks for reminding me of this screencap I took, Pipi should be the one holding Ninten’s hand safely guiding him out of the cemetery
>>743408219Pipi uses Teddy's stats table, she's a physical monster
>>743408317>I think the biggest reason why people say to skip it is because we never got it here in the west.Uhhh the Wii U Eshop?Nintendo Switch Online?It’s been officially available for over a decade now.The Boxart could be better, this is a Reimagined coverart to celebrate 10+ years since it was released on Wii UJune 14, 2015 was a surprise for everyone: after just 26 years since the Japanese release, the first Mother became EarthBound Beginnings in its official western launch on Wii U Virtual Console. With subtitles translated into English.
>>743408451Well for one, running away in Mother 1 doesn’t sacrifice all your party member’s turns, you can attempt to run away from battles 3 times or just use 4th Dimensional Slip unlike in Earthbound or Mother 3
>>743403694Avoid the fanbase at all costs
>>743408548So… do you love Ana?
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>>743411265I dont know how anyone could pick no
>>743403694you're allowed to cheat in Mother 1
>>743411408...if you're gay
For anyone that might be waiting here, there is one up
>>743410312ness' best weapon only drops from the kraken with a 1/128 chanceif you go past and beat the boss without getting it you're locked out of it so do remember to make a save and grind the krakens before leaving magicant
>>743411540Go to a different board. Better yet, a different website. Is it not plainly obvious that you are unwelcome here?
>>743410387The scripted battles in Mother 3 are really great. Porky sealing himself in the capsule and not even getting the YOU WON! fanfare or exp was fucking kino
>>743411553This is flat wrong. Ness' best weapon drops from the Bionic Kraken in the final dungeon. The Krakens in Magicant are each single time spawns and cannot be farmed. You have also likely conflated this with Poo's strongest (and only weapon) which must be gotten from enemy drops in a particular dungeon and the enemies disappear after beating said dungeon.
>>743411642>every time you fight the masked man in mother 3 his battle background is the same as the mani-mani statue's background from earthbound
>>743411692gutsy bat drops from any kraken encounter, it's just that the bionic ones respawn so don't need savescumming
>>7434036941's archaic but I really enjoy the atmosphere and themes. I still highly recommend it.2 is good, it'll fuck you up later on.3 hurts me badly at the beginning and it's pretty good but feels notably different from the other two.
>>743411265Pure wife material
>>743411904You are demonstrably, objectively incorrect.
>>743404874Deltarune directly references it a lot so it's pushed the series back to the cultural forefront, between people wanting to see the connections, as well as just general interest in the series.
>>743411775i realized that this was because it's lucas' worst nightmare like two years ago lmao
so why did no one ever make a good fan sequel or fan game set in the earthbound universe despite all the supossed earthbound inspired indie rpgs that came out
>>743411969nigga im not gonna look through my attic to try to find if i still even got the player guide yet so heres google images
>>743412028what happened to that one Mother 4 project?
>>743412021it's a fascinating little bit of insight into lucas' character that he's clocked the masked man almost instantly
>>743412225This was misinformation
>>743412427i mean it's pretty obvious who it is when all the pigmasks were calling him commander when he infiltrated their basethere's one other person on the island that lucas could be mistaken as
>>743412478even so you've got confrontations with the masked man before that point, lucas knows and dreads it
>>743412225>the most notorious mistake from a strategy guide
>>743403694You don't need to know anythingIt's a very normal game with nothing weird going on
>>743412225Why don't you look at a wikiOr starmen.netOr listen to the person who has played a dozen times telling you about itOr download a rom and PK Hack and LOOK FOR YOURSELF AT THE DROP TABLES you all lowercase posting faggot. I have the manual for Zombies Ate My Neighbors on the SNES and it says the tomato weapon is extra effective against the Martian enemies but guess what? The Martians die in a single hit to any damaging weapon in the entire game. Old manuals and guidebooks are notoriously full of errors. What a pitiful person you are, to be so certain of information that is blatantly wrong and easily verifiable.
>>743412375depends on which one you meanoriginal mother 4 rebranded into oddity where it never got any farther than a battle system demo and kitbashing assets together for trailers, notoriously they pissed off their musician with its glacial pace and pissed off pretty much the entirety of the fanbase for not only using DMCAs from nintendo as an excuse to rebrand, but also for throwing out the custom-made mother 3 game engine the original team was purporting to have made specifically for it in favor of game maker and later godotthe second mother 4 shows similar signs of non-life, the original mother 4 musician frittered off to this project. the most recent sign of life i can find for this second project is a bluesky post from four months ago of the programmer showing off their PC rig and calling it "mother 4 development hardware" as a funny
>>743412225The strategy guide is wrong, it's hard to imagine how you could even find this picture without it being mentioned.
>>743411775>mani-mani mind controls people>masked man is mind controlledSYMBOLISM YEAH
>>743411265Ninten and Ana feels like they have much more going on than Ness and Paula despite also having little. Honestly at the end of Earthbound I usually go for the drop off Paula at her home option.Now if there was an option to bring Ana home and introduce her to your mother I'd take that every time.
>>743412613My wife deserved better.
>>743412724it's also reused for Ness's Nightmare
>>743411265is it normal to cry at this scene a bit
>>743412743The novel option."Ana nodded eagerly, and without much thought, she stroked her lower belly gently. Somehow, her smile was not unlike that of Queen Mary.”
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>>743412830Then that means... NINTEN MY MAN!!!
>>743412830>>743413104ninten FUCKS
>>743409282>The game never hit that level again.chasing your mums ghost through a flower field with your dog for 5 minutes
>>743409282>spoilerthat part is also kino foreshadowingit's the first hint that something is actually very wrong with Tazmily Village
>>743406317Magicant is like that place you wanna go to as a kid when you are having a hard time.
Why is ninten so similar to ness?
>>743406317Mother 1 is such a beautiful game, it's insane that people treat it with such disdain.If it actually released in the USA like it was planned to, and had an amazing trailer like the one from Japan... https://youtu.be/yQUN7QAnMp0 i'm sure those mother posers would glaze it to death until Mother 1 was "too cringe" to talk about.
>>743409282The whole final battle was really strange for me, I didn't really get the intended effectJust had to sit patiently to fully heal when I was low because the Masked Man hit for so hard, completely ruining the feel of the battleIt was weird when Flint randomly decides to sacrifice himself mid-battle since I clearly had everything under controlPic related was so random that it just caused me to start laughing
>>743413961incidentally that's exactly what you end up doing for a lot of mother 1
>>743414095Did you.... defend?
>>743414041They're literally the same person did you even play the game?
>>743414148Yeah but eventually I ran low on HP so just figured I should sit there until it went all the way up.Eventually had to use the emulator speed up and everything
>>743414284>They're literally the same personA Bee Ness is not.
>>743414041Because Ninten is Ness' dad
>>743414041earthbound is a quasi remake of mother despite being a sequel
>>743414041he was supposed to be the very same character very early on in development
>>743414284Are you mentally retarded?
>>743414378>Bee Ness
>>743414894fug he said benis :DDDDDD
>>743406998This is not what happens.
>>743415147True, all of them reach bump limit if left uninterrupted, and the fact they do so within the day causes infinite seething because that level of activity isn't appearing in /pol/ discourse or consolewars that are only propped up by ritualistic schizos that the mods specifically leave alone because they want to watch the board quality deteriorate due to you being unable to discuss most topics without alerting a schizo to have a meltdown that completely kills the thread.
>>743403694Mother 3 is the peak. You can find everything about the modern world right there: Powerful people who do evil simply because they are bored and peace isn't fun. They use the science to ruin people lives and take control of them. Checkmate, it's 2027.
>>743415436Don't forget that you can now train people into becoming mini-mods by repeating a small number of keywords that will trip a mod's RSS feeds and cause him to nuke the thread from orbit instead of doing his fucking jobAs went Final Fantasy XIV living in a mod's head rent free, so goes Tricky Tony's Wild Ride living in a mod's head rent free
>>743403694Duncan's factory or whatever it was called is over of the worst dungeons I've ever played in a JRPG and it's pretty early on. I would play the easy mode version just for that
>>743412830W-Wow... The 90s really was a different time, huh?
>>743417612Why not just use a map, instead?The only bad part of it is the dead ends.
>>743407543>one of the only good runs at sgdq was motherMost graveyard shift runs were on its level. The only reason for its reputation that I can see is that the runner called the run "boring" at the tail end of it.
>>743403694Does anyone have a download of that new Oddity leak?
You know I'll listen to Toby Fox's music from time to time and a lot of it is great. A lot of fucking bangers. But there's something about earthbounds soundtrack that just hits home and hits closer to the soul. It's hard to describe. It's immensely calming and nostalgic. A Return To Your Roots
This is the most brutal line in the series.
>>743405723>earthbound always felt like a reboot or reimagining of mother 1Because it is.It's a complete AU reimagining of Mother 1 with alternate versions of some characters from Mother 1 (like three of the main cast and the final boss).It still doesn't replace the original though and it's a completely different experience.
>>743415436Something funny I found out in another thread is one of the anti MH wilds schizos is a janny which is why it’s almost impossible to discuss the game
>>743404421>Mother 1 has way too many random encounters and feels like a tedious grind through much of itJust pick up the easy mode item at the beginning. Less encounters, more exp.
>>743404421Japanese Kids in the 90s could beat MOTHER 1 with all the random encounters, what makes a +18 adult in modern day 20XX not able to beat it?
