Watching Bethesda jeets seething about the IP being returned to it's original devs has been the highlight of this year
BUUUHH NEW VEGAS FANS ARE TROOONS>forgets that 4 has the most mentally ill tranny modding community next to skyrim
>>743408714Interplay is back?
>>743408784Obsidian is the closest we got the company is also getting restructured so hopefully we can get proper fallout again
Why doesn’t Todd make his own post apocalyptic IP?
>>743408842because they have to make derivative slop from once great things just like disney with starwars and 343 with halo
>>743408714QRD?
>>743408714I am laughing watching Todd be rapedBut Obsidian isn't even close to the original devs. Most of them are probably in the retirement home now.
>>743409025we need faithful fan devs not faggots
I mean he's been dragging his feet with ESVI at this rate it would have taken them another 12 years to come out with the next Fallout game and Microsoft wants to cash in on the tv show naturally.Todd has no one to blame but himself for having his thumb up his ass and collecting pay checks with almost nothing to show for it.
>>743408842He did its starfield
>>743408714Here's hoping the Elder Scrolls IP gets sold off to another studio as well.At this fucking point I'd rather have Larian or Owlcat make an Elder Scrolls game instead of it being stuck with the most poorly run gaming company in human history.
>>743409494Ask Lady Shwarma
>>743409494>LarianAn elder scrolls game with sex scenes and nudity would be great.
>>743408714Todd genuinely deserves to kill himself.
>>743408714>Original devsThe amount of women fake shilling Sawyer and trying to use the "acksully ONE more guy is back from an entire team so ur pRoVaBlY wrong" half assed gaslighting is the telltale sign of this shit being dead in the water. Even in the extremely unlikely scenario of him not being full of wokefaggery he's a figurehead in a terminally woke company.
whats most alarming about all of this is that compared to starfield, fallout 4 is actually a complete experience, rather than 10 random locations cobbled together by immigrants
>>743408926Microsoft gave fallout to obsidian which now has a team with the og creators of 1 and 2 to make the next Fallout game.
>>743409025Tim Cain and many from 1 and 2 are working on this as well
>>743410146Tim Cain retard
>>743409025>>743410146Tim Cain, Leonard Boyarsky, Jason D. Anderson, Feargus Urquhart, Chris Jones
>>743413040>Microsoft gave fallout to obsidianBethesda still owns the IP, is overseeing the TV show, and, according to the reporting, is overseeing Obsidian's project. Obsidian is back to where they were 16+ years ago, the cucks who have nothing of their own, and only make spin offs to other people's IP.
>>743410146You seem to have Sawyer Derangement Syndrome. It's alright, he'll save Fallout for you anyways.
>>743413273You seem to misunderstand how the Microsoft acquisition worked. Bethesda does not own Fallout at all anymore. They are allowed to use the IP by Microsoft, but have no control if Microsoft never wants to allow them to make a game again, or if they want to cancel the TV show, or if they want to give the IP to someone else. If Microsoft sells Bethesda, or fire them, they will keep the IP if they choose to. When Double Fine, Ninja Theory and Compulsion were fired, it was reported that Microsoft allowed them to keep their IPs, note that the key word is allowed. If they wanted to, MS could have let them go and kept their IPs, but they saw no value in them. If they let Bethesda go tomorrow, you can bet your ass they'll keep the Elder Scrolls and Fallout. They'll let Bethesda keep Shartfield though.
>>743413326this faggot is gonna get so exposed, he never thought he'd have to make New Vegas 2 and he's about to fuck it up so bad
>>743408784Interplay was the publisher, retard. At least pretend you know anything about the original games.
>>743413326JFC, what is it with this fucking guy and close up selfie shots? There's something legitimately wrong and narcisisstic about him.
>>743413186Don't call feargus a dev ever again
wheres my nigga avellone? did they blacklist him after he pointed out that obsidian soicuck's racist hiring policies? I NEED BEAR AND BULL BEAR AND BULL BEAR AND BULL okay
>>743408926Rumor is that Todd Howard does not like the idea of fallout fans enjoying Oblivion's New Vegas more than Fallout 3. It has been perpetuated for so long, many people like to pretend that Todd seethes and loses his temper at the mention of New Vegas. With this context I'm sure you can appreciate the humor in the fact that Microsoft (The parent company of Bethesda) has laid off many people in Bethesda, stopped the production of the next Fallout game, locked the remaining employees into focusing solely on Elder Scrolls 6, and has contracted Oblivion into producing the next Fallout title.
>>743413612You are just seeing the red flags my guy.
>>743413273>Bethesda still owns the IPNo. Asha does and she gave it to obsidian
>>743413706Feargus is probably eating Avellones shit right now to get him to sign on as a contractor
>>743413828Would you want someone to eat your shit?
>>743413537He and Gonzales are all that's needed. As long as Asha provides the slave labor jeets and force Bethesda to play nice, he will deliver the best Fallout game since New Vegas.
>>743413746>does not like the idea of fallout fans enjoying Oblivion's New Vegas more than Fallout 3.Which never made sense because NV sold less, and reviewed worse, than both Fo3 and Fo4, and is the worst performing modern Fallout game. Hell, Fagout 76 has had twice as many players as NV.
>>743413828Not a chance. You retards assign way too much competence to random couldn't-make-it-as-an-actual-writer people. These guys are all just low grade writers, even Avellone. And now they're all old enough to be completely washed up. It serves no purpose to make any effort to try and squeeze any brilliance out of any of them.
>>743413923copium overdose
>>743408714>original devsInterplay doesn't exist anymore.
>>743413951Not even asking for brilliance, I'm just asking for something competently written. Obsidian hasn't written anything worthwhile since New Vegas, it's been actual slop, though you might argue that Durance and Grieving Mother were written well in PoE, and are the only memorable characters in that entire fucking series. Not a coincidence considering who wrote them.
>>743413923Yet it is the fan favorite. You lost Todd
>>743414130Tim Cain, Leonard Boyarsky, Jason D. Anderson, Feargus Urquhart, Chris Jones
>>743408714>decision made by a top Jeeta hoping to gain maximum izzat>she does this as she fires thousands of American developers>this is somehow against Indians
>>743414174Jeets love Bethesda. This is a fact
>>743414167>not a single writer or composer listed>certified faggots like Tim Cain included
>>743414150Fan favorite is Fallout 4. NV is only the favorite among a very small group of perpetually online internet incels.
As a Bethescuck I am happy that we will see a new Fallout game regardless on who makes it.I just hope it will at least have building mechanics and good modding support
Can't wait for this much anticipated Fallout game to be the same fucking looter shooter as Fallout 4 because friendly reminder it's NEW VEGAS that broke from CRPGs and went FPS with a few RPG mechanics, Fallout 3 was still trying to be a 3D CRPG with the VATS system focused gameplay and ALL you faggots rejected it for FPS slop.Not to mention they fully ran with the retro-futuristic American post-apocalypse setting Fallout 3 started with even making up contrived explanations about why didn't the Mojave get reduced to rubble by nuclear bombardment.They were also doing the Bethesda "we got post-apocalyptic LARPers making a single thing from the old world their entire cartoonish personality bullshit. Don't expect shit, they already betrayed the spirit of the originals.
>>743414229>NV is only the favorite among a very small group of perpetually online internet incels.troons*
>>743414139To be perfectly honest, I've never remembered any characters from any Fallout game. The only ones I know are the ones I keep seeing over and over online. Very nearly ALL video game stories are just garbage nonsense and the characters are thin as paper because they have no real actual presence aside from maybe 2 dozen lines of dialogue. Any time I hear anyone go on and on about "brilliant story" or "memorable characters", all I really think is that they've never actually read any books. It's childish garbage - the best you can hope for is a story that isn't utterly random and nonsensical (and I will admit, anything is a step up from Emil there).
>>743414287>spirit of the originalsWhich was... what, exactly? Fallout 1 and 2's "spirit" couldn't be more different, it feels like they take place in entirely different universes.
>>743414218Nuuu it's like totally the same dude, the thing praised for it's writing and setting doesn't need WRITERS! Eat your slop and stop noticing!!!!
Why does every NV fag's idea of a "good Fallout" just 4 but with Reddit rewriting?
>>743414361>To be perfectly honest, I've never remembered any characters from any Fallout gameThe antagonists from New Vegas (Benny, House, Ceasar) and the companions from Fallout 4 (Codsworth, Cait, Nick) are fairly memorable.
>>743414404Just like with designers, I bet you could take any programmer in the company and have them come up with a story outline and it would be better than whatever the "writers" can come up with. Writers and designers are GED-level retards and the quality of their work reflects this universally.
>>743409494Oh, look, it's this line again. Whelp, at least we know its swen chinke and his band of dickless faggots spamming these threads.
>>743414287>Fallout game to be the same fucking looter shooter as Fallout 4Sawyer said a few months ago that he hates level scaling and randomized loot, and that he'll never put it in any of his games. He also has no issue declining the role of director to keep making unity games with a team of 10 people if Bethesda or Microsoft tries to tell him what to do. If he's directing the game, all the looter shooter garbage will be thrown out.
>>743414464>Why does every NV fag's idea of a "good Fallout" just 4 but with Reddit rewriting?They don't understand that Bethesda's open world Action RPGs games are fundamentally different from CRPGs and that combining both approaches is bound to end up in failure.
>>743414517>all the looter shooter garbage will be thrown outSo he will fuck over the tens of millions of Skyrim and Fallout 4 fans who are expecting just that?
>>743414517>Sawyer said a few months ago that he hates level scaling and randomized lootOFC he does, Sawyer hates people playing his games in any way beyond the way he wants them to ,in the order he wants them to. Hence why Obsidian games are generally so on rails in regards to how you move through the map/areas.
>>743408816I enjoy seeing bethesda getting fucked but >current year obsidiancome on bro
>>743414475I will say that Nick was memorable. I don't even know who Cait is. I remember House, but until I started seeing endless fawning over Caesar a decade after I finished the game, I absolutely did not remember him. I remember Marcus from Fallout 1 because he was Worf. And I guess the Master because he was freaky. Everything else is just air.
It's weird how you guys make up some fanfic shit when Todd Howard has been nothing but nice about obsidian and always praises them. Trying to churn up some imaginary rivalry between them is pretty pathetic.
>>743414571Yes.
>>743413326
>>743408714>"NO! You are the pajeet!"I should really invest into copium. The global demand is going to skyrocket soon. The only reason Obsidian got the fallout RPG instead of getting shut down is because Pajeeta can't count and doesn't understand that the last successful Obsidian RPG was the one half made by Bethesda. Overall, pajeets don't have any pattern recognition skills and can't comprehend that the reason New Vegas was successful was because of Bethesda's engine and game design instead of Obsidians tranny writing.
>>743414590Folks don't know that Todd doesn't have any power over the Zenimax executives.
>>743414218>>743414404Seethe at Tim Cain all you want chuddy. Also John Gonzalez was the lead writer of NV retard
>>743414218>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO HATE FALLOUT 1 NOW BECAUSE THE CREATOR IS GAY
>>743414686Yes. They imagine him to be some kind of weird king who gets to decide what gets made, when, and how much is going to be spent, with no input from anyone else. And Microsoft has no choice but to be shocked and appalled when they didn't get what they had wished for, but never demanded. He's just a fucking lead designer who is good at public speaking so they made him a spokesman.
>>743414287Retarded post
>>743414404>>743414218John GonzalezTim Cain
>>743414724Speedy Gonzalez didn't work on Fallout nor Fallout 2.
>>743414523NV mogs everything Bethesda ever made
>>743414576What does level scaling and randomized loot have to do with player freedom? You're free to explore the entire New Vegas map in any order you want to if you're good enough to do so. He says that he doesn't like people to mindlessly navigate through an open world and wants them to think about what they're doing, learn the map and where the areas of friction are, and to use the tools at their disposal to outsmart the game. He also said that if it were up to him, he would make Fallout a hardcore survival game, basically an open world Resident Evil with constant resource management, because he thinks that hard choices in rpgs are worthless if you have unlimited resources. For example, being able to effortlessly get 1000 karma in Fallout 3 by giving some of your infinite purified water to random hobos. I don't think Asha will let him do that, but I'm curious as to what he'll do in terms of balance and exploration for the new game.
>>743414742Tim Cain was producer and programmer for Fallout.
>>743414806Not Starfield though
>>743408714nobody is seething tho. you're making shit up to try to drive contentious engagement.
>>743414814> also said that if it were up to him, he would make Fallout a hardcore survival game, basically an open world Resident Evil with constant resource management, because he thinks that hard choices in rpgs are worthless if you have unlimited resources.So he's even more retarded then I thought?
>>743414806>NV mogs everything Bethesda ever madeWell, there it is.
>>743414814>He also said that if it were up to him, he would make Fallout a hardcore survival game
>>743414835He literally came up with the concept and main ideas. Stop being retarded.
>>743414858Sorry friend, you're gonna get Fallout 1 levels of difficulty and you're gonna like it. You'll still have 76 to do your mindless looter shooter slop though.
>>743414874Sorry Jeet you lost
>>743414814>I don't think Asha will let him do thatAsha doesn't know jack shit about Fallout. She will have nothing of substance to say unless she is told that they are building something that does not conform to the list of 6-8 key tag words that sales care about. The only time she will ever see the game running will be about twice a year from small trailers made to show what they're working on, specifically targeted at execs.
>>743414874No argument. Only seething from the Bethesda Jeet
>>743414605>Causation >Correlation New Vegas doesn't make people trans, it just attracts the same crowd. Almost all trannies are mindslaves who's entire persona is created by other people. Cutting off your dick isn't an idea that comes to you naturally. Someone needs to implant that idea into your mind. It's the same with liking New Vegas. Nobody would come to the conclusion that new Vegas is the best game ever by themselves. It's an idea you get by watching too many video assays on YouTube. Mindless people are told that they are trans and that New Vegas is the best game ever. It's all just correlated.
>>743414915He also called it Vault-13: A GURPS Post-Nuclear Role-Playing Game.
>>743414961Yes. You're point?
>>743414928Who lost?
>>743408714>current year obshitianGood to know i can forget Fallout nowadays
>Tim Caine wasn't a writerI hate Bethesda jeets so much
>>743414987Bethesda jeets
>>743414960>New Vegas doesn't make people trans, it just attracts the same crowdThat's not really better.
>>743414987>Snakenberg
>>743414993>Caine
>>743415013Bethesda jeets are mad they're losing to troons like us as revenge
The only way it could be even remotely good is if they go back to isometric and turn based.But I think we all know its going to be 3d shooter sloppa
>you see if we greenlight these game people will get the chance to shit on Microsoft, Jeets, troons and woke cucks, all at the same time>fantastic, go ahead
>>743408926Obsidian is making a new Fallout spinoff (not Fallout 5), so people think microsoft "took fallout away" from bethesda and are creating industry drama in their own minds.
>>743414960saar please
>>743415113>The only way it could be even remotely good is if they go back to isometric and turn based.It should have been inXile.
>Bethesda vs obsidian
>>743413746>like to pretendOf course all the low quality, jeet macros spammed all at the same time definitely isn't a sign of betheshit shilling, they were perfectly natural in all being made and spammed at the same time then all stopping when a payment cycle obviously ends
>>743410007just play modded skyrim? it's literally the best porn game in existence.
>>743415071>Todd finally pays for his crimes against trans folk
>>743415160It's called sir. Learn english before posting here currynigga.Obsidian >50% trans>50% pajeet>100% retarded
>>743414587>Marcus from Fallout 1
>>743413923>Fagout 76 has had twice as many players as NVone thing I don't like with arguments like this is it removes the context of time. the video game market has grown exponentially over the decades. 20 years ago if a video game sold over a million copies it was a mega hit. now modern games are considered a flop and the studio that made it could shut down if they don't sell over a million copies. the amount of people interested in video games, and fallout games specifically, grew significantly between the release of NV and 76. and most of those new people are normalfag casuals who don't go back and play older titles after playing the new ones cause muh graphix, causing a further discrepancy in player counts.
>>743415174I created my India information two weeks after Starfield was announced.
Can't wait for you all to suddenly LOVE the looter shooter when it's inevitably revealed that it is indeed the same shit as New Vegas. LMFAO
>Fallout 3 was a CRPG and New Vegas was shooter slopSo this is the newest cope from the Cult of Todd?
>>743415334New Vegas was not a looter shooter and the new Fallout game won't be eithe.r
>>743415298>jeet trying to shut down the saar meme
>>743415313Was it 2? See what I mean?
What happened?
>>743415334It's gonna be The Outer Worlds 3 with a Fallout skin. It's gonna be called Fallout New Orleans and characters will be 90% Black, Indian and/or queer.
>>743415325You're are replying to a coping Bethdrone who is mindbroken that Obsidian got Fallout again, and is angry Fallout will be an RPG again, so he's posting sales numbers since he has nothing left.
>>743408714youre making up scenarios in your head again retard chuddy
I'm yet to hear a logical reason why a dev team with over 1000 devs and limitless microsoft money needs 15 years to release one game. What the fuck are they even doing there?
>>743408714>original devheheyou could have used many other words, but you didn't
I want an AI video of Asha on her knees from a POV perspective, sensually licking and sucking the end of an xbox controller.
>>743415393>Fallout will be an RPG again
>>743415392>s and characters will be 90% Black, Indian and/or queer.can't wait to go rampaging and killing through that game just like I did through the previous entries ;)
>>743413746Per Avellone, Todd does seethe at other people getting to make Fallout, because he sees it as "his". He does legitimately love Fallout, but it's more like a toy that he doesn't like sharing and he had to be bullied to even let Obsidian make NV in the first place.
>>743415465HeheheheThere's no coming back from this
>>743415426>I'm yet to hear a logical reason why a dev team with over 1000 devs and limitless microsoft money needs 15 years to release one game. What the fuck are they even doing there?A thousand employees includes Zenimax, so they have been making:>DOOM (2016)>Dishonored 2 (2016)>Prey (2017)>The Evil Within 2 (2017)>Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus (2017)>Fallout 76 (2018)>RAGE 2 >Wolfenstein: Youngblood (2019)>DOOM Eternal (2020)>Deathloop (2021)>Ghostwire: Tokyo (2022)>Hi-Fi Rush (2023)>Redfall (2023)>Starfield (2023)>Indiana Jones and the Great Circle (2024)>DOOM: The Dark Ages (2025)
>>743415426Playing Skyrim.
>>743415426Bethesda has been regularly releasing games every year though?
>>743415516Not to worry, they have a great support team.
>>743408714>UE5
>>743413580Don't look up who developed Fallout 1 & 2
>>743414167Jason Anderson works at InXile
>>743414167>>743415786>Jason Anderson works at InXileYeah the Obsindians are working over time to lie about Josh (जोश)'s project.
>>743408714>Bethesda jeetsTalk about projecting. The only reason Pajeedian hasn't been shut down yet is because of Pajeeta.
>>743415734>Fallout 1 & 2Trash games nobody played. Fallout 3 is the first real fallout that wasn't made by gay Californians.
>>743415350It's LITERALLY the same combat system as Fallout 4 to the point they modded in FO4 QoL to New Vegas with ease.SAME. FUCKING. GAMEPLAY. You'd know it if you actually played it instead of just watching Caesar and Ulysses Reddit essaying videos on YouTube.
>>743413746>Oblivion into producing the next Fallout title.Didn't know the daedric princes were in the game dev bussiness.
>>743415973Fallout 1 is the only good Fallout
>>743415973>Fallout 3 is the first real fallout that wasn't made by gay Californians/thread
>>743408714>>743408714Who cares i want fallout tactics 2 in alaska
>>743408778>forgets that 4 has the most mentally ill tranny modding community next to skyrimThis.
>>743408714???literally nobody cares about this
>NOO YOU'RE A TRANNY NOO YOU'RE A JEETWhat is it about this franchise that attracts such mental illness?
>>743416530They stopped playing games long ago
>>743416530whatever you do, don't read the credits of any modern bethesda game. or do. i don't care. i'm not your dad.
I would've preferred Avowed 2
>>743415167This
>>74341479676 and ESO literally killed both respective IPs
>>743408714It's a monkey paw situation. I've wanted this since Bethesda bought the rights and fucked up Fallout 3 so badly, but Obsidian is infested with ideologues and is a shadow of its former self.
People in this thread are sucking the cock of has-beens, but that isn't even the biggest issue.The biggest issue is that Obsidian is LITERALLY OBJECTIVELY under a current regime that says, "RPG'S DO NOT SELL BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO MUCH LIKE RPG'S".There's no coping about it. No closing your eyes and pretending it doesn't exist. The games they've made in the past decade make it more than obvious that this isn't just some corporate bullshit that never found its way to the creatives. They haven't just forgotten how to make a game any more- they have CONTEMPT for the genre. They do not WANT to make RPG's that are good, because their leadership has nebulously put a fatwa on it. Whatever hopes you have for it need to get past not only the little miracles that need to happen every single day to make a game come out good- but an actual, stated, enacted mission statement that says "We refuse to make a good game".I can't tell you not to hope, and this big miracle might even happen- but it would go against literally everything that is rightly, objectively known.
>>743408926Todd personally shut down every attempt for obsidian to make another fallout after fans liked their version better.Now with new Xboss obsidian is finally allowed to make another fallout game, and Todd is not happy at all.But it's going to be shit because obsidian hasn't make a good game in past 20 years.
>>743416881PoE II Deadfire, Pentiment and Tyranny are all good games.
>>743417017lol no
>>743416829What's puzzling about sales expectations is that they put the games on Game Pass day 1 and are surprised that people don't buy the games
>>743408926
>>743417037explain why not
>>743414987Todd
>>743415334Retarded Jeet post. FNV is an rpg 4 is a looter shooter
>>743416005Bethesda jeets are retarded
>>743414604Based, actually.
>>743416881>Todd personallyDo you have any evidence of that? Also you realize that Todd Howard is not the owner of Bethesda nor the leader, right?
>>743408714Both Bethesda and the original devs are washed
>>743414961yes because the game originally used GURPS until Steve Jackson games objected to the violence and gore, so Cain and Taylor invented ACELIPS
>>743418008>*something good happens*>Todd is personally responsible for every aspect of Bethesda and every decision has to go through him to point devs are lamenting not having enough of his time>*something bad happens*>Todd is powerless, all interns are walking all over him and nobody listens to him. Todd dindu nuffing.
>>743418227Todd Howard is literally the reason why New Vegas exists because he fought to have the game made into a full game from a Fallout 3 DLC because he loved their work.
>>743416005Godamn you're stupid.
>>743418343Completely untrue. Todd didn't want New Vegas made at all. Robert Altman was the one who picked Obsidian and greenlit the project, because he thought it was unacceptable for there to be a 7 year gap between Fallout 3 and 4. Todd was the one who demanded that New Vegas had to be out a year before Skyrim, leading to the 18 month dev cycle though.
>>743418343That's just todd taking the credit for what's already done.
>>743419194>>743419278>they were friends with Obsidian and gave them everything they need to work on a new Fallout since they were busy with SkyrimPlease provide evidence that Todd Howard and Obsidian are enemies.
>>743408714I eagerly await the day this finalizes into a product and the crashout caused by retards living in the past being confronted with the fact that Outer Worlds 3 turned out to be Out Worlds 3
>>743419356The fact that he didn't credit Obsidian at all in the Fallout TV show, specifically John Gonzales who created all the relevant New Vegas characters, but credited Bethesda and Bethesda writers in the show, is enough proof.
>>743419662So schizo headcanon then
>>743408714I really liked skyrim because of all the mods these lazy cunts took 15 years before they even started working on the next game so fuck 'em.
>>743408714>original devs
