granblue relink is a pretty based game huh?
I met an actual Ferry in the field.We lost that one.
>>743410531still haven't seen a single eugen, I've seen like 3 ghandagozas and 2 rosettas meanwhile
>>743410642I saw a couple while slimeblasting. Where he belongs.
>no Altair, Uno and QuatreIt's just not the same without them....
real talk, what's the point in playing anyone other than fediel...? list one reason please.....
>>743410531Not unless they added Kyoka and let us see her tsundere loli panties.
I don't know what to do now
>>743411649Play a real character
>>743411679no I like retard unga characters AND tall/giant women. not my fault grubble one has ONE
Rentry for stuff about DMG caps and what sigils to use at endgamehttps://rentry.co/ytczavom
>>743412216Ok, but what color are her panties or is there a black void since Cygames is a DEI company now?
Favorite comfy quest?For me it's the Four dragons of the Apocalypse
>>743412216>crab collectingpass
I'm currently on level 20 master trait doing 150% damage cap damage with Maglielle, will I be able to iron that out to 100% on later levels? Because right now I dont think there's much I can change on my build
>>743411394right in the feels bro...
>>743410642im tempted to try eugen only because no one plays him. really the only thing that is putting me off is his personality, but maybe i just have to play him to find out because he seems like a generic veteran. i do genuinely like all the character interactions in the game, despite not knowing anything about the original game. from what ive experienced, rackam and bea have the best quips.
>>743412658No, it pretty much only gets worse from here. Technically in missions or on a chaos++ level HP dummy you'll probably do 250%+ dmg cap. Don't worry too much about it as long as you're below 300% I'd say,
>>743412658>>743412757NTA but i'm lvl 50 mag and despite having every node unlocked in masteries for the weapons and having dmg cap out the ass i'm still getting 150%-250%
>>743412658on that note what's her best weapon? I was thinking ascending her crit weapon since how much often her normal combos attack
>>743410531Harvin thread Post harvins
Asanagi
>>743413382Crit weapon is good, then when you can, max out ascension and use that til you can max out a terminus at end game
>>743412216>>743412324Still waiting for an answer, shill-kun.
Io as a party member seems very good for afking farming slimes. AI has been able to get over 100 kills using eustance, 2x Io, and Fraux. Who should I replace Fraux with for better efficency?
>>743414106Prob a Fediel, Eugen or Rackum.
Who's SHE???
Is AFK farming slimes really possible? Every guy I try stops attacking them after a while.
>>743414651Mia but human
>Astral God story has this picture representing their visage>the Astral God actually looks like an older LyriaHuh?Lorefags?
fediel's butt cheeks
A lot more to come but don't expect new characters since they are hard to make
unironically fediel is way too bigeverything is way too big
>>743414905>older goblinaIn what way?Just seems like a vaguely egyptian styled figure to me desu
>>743415094don't care, more characters
>>743415094I'm expecting they'll make Conflux a co-op feature in some update.
I have 61% conflux completion.
>>743415094I heard they were still crunching up until right before release and most of the ER dev team moved over to the awakening project so we're probably in for a long wait.
>No rapier weaponWhy japs are like that?Are they still salty that 200 dutchmen held their positions and slaughtered 2000 katana wielding japs?
>>743414905In lore the Astral God only started to look like Lyria after she was created because that's convenient for the writers. Originally it was a Bahamut looking dragon, so maybe it had other forms in between. Alternatively this is some old guy retelling a tale of the origin of the skydom so there's probably a lot of in universe embellishments over the millennia. And finally grubble story is like 80% bad being generous so it could just be shit writing.
How much more power do you get out of upgrading a character from mastery trait level 50 to unlocking the next 5 levels and getting all the new mastery nodes?
>>743415431.....100%...
>>743415524isn't that what katalina is using?though they are devolving into more and more fantasy bullshit and less of a sleek sword designed for thrusts.Blutgang looks like absolute garbage for her fighting style.
>>743415524For the most part they consider a rapier to just be a very pointy sword. Early in GBF's life Katalina used a rapier style of swordsmanship, but ultimately it's a sword and swords need to slash in their minds. Cannot count the amount of JRPGs with a rapier in the sword category doing slashes. They have a few people in the main game that use rapier properly but you'll never see them outside of the gacha in a million years.
>>743415858Yeah... I'm not really sure why gave it to her desu
Still surprised we got so much homoknights and society wank in Relink. Could have at least had Monika or Lecia for Enforcers rep.
Doing Infinity the World is a massive pain in the ass when you do it with your own team of CPU. I think it might actually be the hardest to do with the CPU because the AI will basically never perfect block his quickening attacks which is basically mandatory to do enough damage to beat him. Online the World is probably the easiest infinity quest because all 4 of you can try and perfect block his quickening but you've only got yourself with the CPU. It's annoying cause they clearly do it right when you fight against Beelzebub and don't get caught by his orbs but for whatever reason they just don't perfect block on the World.
>>743410531NO, fucker. WHERE ARE MY TRANS LOLIS?!
>>743415939black knight would be so fucking kino in this gamewith an armorless skin on release so coomers and armorfags can both win
>>743416106Funf is in the gacha
>>743416046
>>743415524Imas collab had some, but they obviously will never be added to the relink
>>743412347I'm AFKing proud++ luci, since the MSP there comes from the flower drops I don't have to quit to town to spend the MSP often and can just let it run for a long time.
>>743416129any of the old six would be.I'd prefer Craig over BK, but either would have been great.just leave the gold and unicorn out
>>743415467thats why we arent getting new characters lol
need the mod that replaces bea's shorts with her canon pantsu already
>>743415219This is what the Astral God actually looks like
>>743412347WHERE IS THE FUCKING KOKO
It is absolute shitter hours do not queue for infinity quests you have been warned.
>>743416324Might as well make our own room
Beat main story and in the "post game", how long until I unlock dlc content?
is it just me or are all of fraux's rank 3 mastery perks fucking ass except for insight which is just okwhy do the other two have such bullshit drawbacks?
I'd love to see the damage cap percentages on this bitch.
>>743416268Nah, I know what australia looks like.was just curious where he drew the resemblance to lyria from in his image
>>743412324>>743414087https://antifandom.com/lgbtqia-characters/wiki/Cagliostro_(Granblue_Fantasy)Take THAT, election tourist, white-supremacist, Zionist.
>>743415145granblue needs more big women
>>743416665>Transgender Whoever wrote this shit never played GBF.
>>743416665Didn't answer if you see the potato panties or not, fagot.
>>743416374that artist fucked up, the armor should not look like that from that angle.
>>743416046The roster was decided back when they were adamant that they're only going to add characters from early Granblue (around the first 2 years of the game's lifespan) and said that they won't add any modern characters (until they caved in to popularity demands).https://gbf.wiki/SSR_Characters_List#Classic_Draw_I
>>743416374How the fuck do you get that much? I just hit 100k and I thought I was doing alright.
>>743416929>said that they won't add any modern charactersI'm assuming they were talking about base game?Because Sandal, and now fediel aren't old granblue.
comfy....just need to replace half of this with stun power shit
>>743416929my poor birdman and vampy...
>>743417041I wouldn't worry too much about your attack value since you're gonna get brickwalled by the damage cap with no way to get it anywhere close to 100% anyway.
>>743417041It's a meme build to make the pwr number higher anon. It's not actually something you should aim for.
>>743417091Then you need to join everyone else in the Stout Heart/Berserker echo/Spartan Echo/War Elemental summon mines.
>>743417136I got those but with shit rolls and I guess I am there
>>743417151>got the 4 optimal giga meta summons before getting 3 stun sigilsGenuinely how?
ok but when's the lilith summon?
Hexachrome quartz?
>>743417226You have to beat all 4 infinity quests and then beat the new 5th quest that unlocks after that. Yes you need to beat the hardest quests in the game simply to unlock the last upgrade to your weapon. Yes, Cygames are retarded.
>>743416374I wonder how tweyen can push 929 atk. I tried and the best I can get is 750k with maxed out atk, berserker, glass cannon, tyranny, all atk masteries too
So lore wise I am trying to figure out this fucking story.In this world the Moon and the Earth went to war with each other and turned the Earth into a blasted hellscape. The moon went into stasis. Then something awoke Bahamut which I guess is some sort of super AI thingy and went about salvaging what he could of the Earth by using some sort of magic or technology or magitech to suspend islands in the sky and then made the Six Dragons to maintain the system. Then went Bahamut was killed by the mortal races he split into two components and one became the Astral god and the other kept looking like bahamut but became god of the sky. But where are the Astrals? Are they in a separate dimension?And so the Astral's invaded the sky and took it over on behalf of their god who wanted to reunite with its other half. But then the Astrals were a bunch of jerks and kept backstabbing each other. And they build a bunch of autonomous beings called Primal Beasts who eventually betrayed them and helped the sky people revolt against the Astrals. Who then went back to where ever they came from. But those are separate from the moon people who send shit like Pyet-A.So am I following this right?
>>743417136Wait. Do beserker echo and spartan echo stack??? Also uh...where would be a good place farm summons with those?
>>743417262>yes you need to dodge 200 lightning bolts in a row for the best weapon in the gamechill
>>743417325>Do beserker echo and spartan echo stack??? Yes they stack. That's why those 2 and war elemental are considered the holy trinity of mandatory sigils.>Also uh...where would be a good place farm summons with those?Here you go. You can also farm the infinity quests but they're a pain in the ass so I opt for farming chaos++ quests instead since I can AFK when I need to and also work on building up some of my other characters while I'm working on it.
Can someone tell me (or point me to an up to date guide) of what the hell I'm supposed to be grinding towards? Is it simply "do all new quests as they pop up and grind mats for Ascension weapon"? Do I need to invest much in other weapons before that? And, uh, sigils? >>743417321My favourite part of the lore is how Bahamut did a shitty job and made everything out of whack.
>>743417262....looks like im sticking with ascension
>>743417339FFX literally does have superbosses you can use with your new best weapon though so your comparison makes no sense.
>>743417321>something awoke bahamutI still think the original Bahamut is the dimension hopping one that fled the RoB world desu.A couple things.The majority of the living astrals are trapped in a jail dimension....which is a different jail dimension from the one where the 1st gen primals (origin beasts) like Sandal were kept.Bahamut might be a robot from the moon!
>>743417489You'll want to upgrade every weapon since there's a new row of permanent buffs associated with them and you get an additional 10% (rounded up) on top when you max the respective weapon out.For progression though, your ascension weapon will do until you get to upgrade your terminus weapon.
>>743417262"Beat tough boss to get better weapon" is always the cycle. I don't know why you're surprised. It's like only having SR weapons to beat the Omegas back in the day.
>>743417206I don't synth
So basically I probably should have all Terminus weapon before trying to fight Siete and Song right?
>>743416757>>743412324Still waiting for an answer.
Who gives a fuck since there are plenty of better harvins to relate to this question?
>>743417610>The majority of the living astrals are trapped in a jail dimension.>...which is a different jail dimension from the one where the 1st gen primals (origin beasts) like Sandal were kept.OK cool. But we are looking at a setting where we have supertechnology that is indistinguishable from magic right?
>>743412216hold upthe in-game description for the defense perk mentions defense (blue icons) and support (pink icons) but not special (purple icons)
>>743417489get all weapons.Get all weapons to 150 for all their mastery nodes. if you can get carried into chaos you can skip awakening your ascension and terminus weapons for a while.start transcending your weapons once you get into chaos. Defender is a good start but eventually you want all since they get new mastery nodes. halfway through chaos++ you can transcend your ascension. and sometimes after that your terminus.Don't forget to get all your mastery nodes, some half decent over masteries for now and your master level.>sigilsidk. i am still rocking absolute garbage.
>>743417051Yeah, back when they were still developing the game and revealed the early roster (back when Metera was part of the early roster), people asked whether they're going to add newer characters and they said no, before they obviously caved in and made Sandalphon.
>>743417535Zelda then?One of the wii games does it, as does the newish one I think?RE4 has the typewriterwitcher 3 had something like it in the dlc as well.Final boss weapons in dmc/souls games
>>743417535Also, MH does the exact same thing actually.Don't know why that wasn't my first example.Beat the final monster in the final update for a title and there's nothing new to use that weapon on.
>>743415660Anyone? I want to know if I should specifically farm a bunch of MSP.
Give me just one more sigil slot holy fuck
>>743417489once you start transcending weapons you get so much free attack that you literally do not need any attack boosting sigils, everyone's pivoting to stun power/supp damage sources like the echoes and damage cap maxxing
>>743417762>>743417646Thanks.>>743417051WMTSB might as well be "old" Granblue now.
Is 250 good for stun or do I need more?
>>743417968No, mh has challenging quests with higher difficulty than "final monster"
>>743417969master breaking once and getting two dmg cap mastery points somehow boosted my power from 40k to 47k
>>743417969Beeg power.150+% cap increase and 10500 base health
>>743418098Iceborne didn't. Nothing ever got harder than Fatalis and he had all the best gear. Though that too is probably an unfair comparison cause Fatalis was the last update Iceborne ever got and I'd imagine we're still going to get more updates.
I wish siegfried had the rock sword skin from the fighting game. I would use that to cover up the ascalon, ugly piece of vomit shit.
>>743418165>Nothing ever got harder than Fatalis>Fatalis was the last update Iceborne ever gotAnon, even outside of "harder" part, iceborne got barioth variant after fatalis
>>743418253>Anon, even outside of "harder" part, iceborne got barioth variant after fatalisLook anon my memory isn't what it used to be
>>743416046No Moni is a fucking crime
>>743416929Vira was the most popular character for years and she's not in game.
>>743417262lol the only hard quest is luci other then that its not that bad
>>743418138>>743418145That sounds beeg. Guess I'll farm up for that on my main 4 before I get to farming infinity quests.
>>743418345Moni with inflated tits but not being a draph is the real crime. Either keep her flat if you're going to keep her as a human anyway, or fully make her a draph.
>>743416092What would people say is the easiest infinity quests with the CPU?
>>743418583Hexa>Bubs>Versa/World(dependant on you PBing)>Faa
oh so you can use stop ghandagoza's gauge from draining by quickly dodge canceling the eternal rage buff skill.
>>743416374>crabs can go up to level 45wut?
Why do we want stun on the first slot again?
>>743418703
>>743418703See>>743417759 but also because end game quests have a bunch of stun checks where you will literally fail the quest instantly if you fail to meet them so getting more stun is important for it's own sake.
>>743418703That third tier mastery trait that give 20% damage cap for each basic stat type sigil. Has to be first slot to count for it.
>going to be in the dragon mines for a long time Atleast I like fighting them.
>>743418771that sounds dumb
>>743419185Yeah I think the stun checks in the last quests are massively overtuned. If I have to see THE END one more time I'm losing it.
>want to try out other characters>crewmates on Proud join at level 60 even after beating the dragons and NihilasDoes it ever increase at any point in the rank or do I have to wait until the dlc difficulty? I just beat the moon robot but when I checked before then to see if I could use the Society guys for the fight they were still at 60.
>>743419343Yeah if you beat the expansion new characters join at level 100 and mastery trait level 20.
Best method for getting a lot of Silver Centrum?
>>743419438No idea. I'm constantly selling them cause I keep hitting 999. Just do chaos++ quests a bunch and you'll be drowning in them.
>>743419438Get to the postgame and all the missions shit them out.
>>743418373Cygames always does stupid shit with characters. Pumping out alts for some while ignoring others that the fanbase clamours for. >should we make easy money with a Fenrir SSR?>NO!
bros who should I pick if I want to farm MVPs (aside from titty monster)
Just bee yourself
Is she good/fun?
somebody tell me how to play frauxwhat's the fastest way to get both of her gauges full and what mastery should I go for
>>743419624wise words brother
>>743419371That's the only benchmark after the Proud one?>mastery trait level 20I don't even know what that is yet so it seems like I won't be using my cards any time soon.
>>743419624Oira?
>>743419786I don't know if there any incremental increases to be fair but honestly it doesn't really matter. If you really want to play someone now just get them, the game gives you more than enough resources to bring them up.
>Fediel in party>lose motivation to play because I know I'm gonna lose MVPBWOS....
What the fuck is Io's endgame build? Do I just have to sacrifice Quick Charge/Quick Cooldown/Cascade on the altar of Stun Power/HP for the Mastery Trait?Also holy shit this character is braindead, I switched from playing Yodarha and I thought that was brainless combo spam, hurr durr hold Y for MVP is a new level of rot. Until the boss forces you to dodge all the goddamn time and all of a sudden your Concentration is never up and you're charging piss slow.
>>743419786i think the lvl will be like this>chaoslvl 90>chaos+lvl 100 mastery lvl 1>chaos++lvl 100 mastery lvl 10>after beating babs in confluxlvl 100 mastery lvl 20
>>743419671>GoodShe's okay>FunVery!All of her moves throws Beatrix onto the boss, so you get a lot of uptimeYou'll either use orange-clock for Stout Heart or get it on a summon, so you'll never get knocked around by the monsterShe has two different playstyles for her different master traits. One is a skill spammer the other manages clock buff to go into Y-spam modeAlso other players can hear you scream your lungs out during combat
>>743419890they may have won mvp in game, but if you play a lesser seen character then you can win mvp in their hearts.
>>743419673As a Fraux noob it just seems to be spam attack. She seems pretty straight forward, with plenty of utility, which I like.
>>743420070if you're a noob then why would you reply to someone asking for advicego fuck yourself nobody cares about what you think
What's the highest achievable HP? Currently sitting on 675k for my afk Cag.
>>743419673https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGig8l0GSVQtry this, no idea how reliable they are though
>>743420110Wow rude.>>743420070Don't worry anon I care.
We want Monika, Lily, Aya, Danua, Haaselia and AlatheiaInstead we will probably get getting some stupid shit like Reinhardtzar, Estarriola, Marquiares and Spinnah
>>743420110Just 'cause you're dumb enough to read my shit doesn't mean everyone is, sucka.>>743420218Thanks, anon.
HELLO????What's this
>>743419917>Do I just have to sacrifice Quick Charge/Quick Cooldown/Cascade on the altar of Stun Power/HP for the Mastery Trait?Never trade comfort for more cap, if you often find yourself stalling out on cooldowns then get more reduction.>What the fuck is Io's endgame build?Nyx Io
>>743420248>MonikaNo, we need to make Leica great again.
>>743420352Lecia will be a boring X spammerDO not want
I had no idea this nigga was so popularI skipped his event
How is this a goblin
confused about how damage works in this expansion.>apparently some buffs are applied after dmg cap and other aren't?>some sigils give different dmg output despite being the same percent, are some applied multiplicatively and others aren't, or some applied before damage cap and others aren't?>Is the goal in the expansion to get the DMG cap as high as possible now? because i dont see nearly as many people stacking damage increasing sigils anymore. Is the damage so inflated that you solely need to focus all your slots on DMG cap now?
>>743420394He's funny but sill too much
>>743420352>leciaplease stop. i already gave up hoping good things for her.
>>743420452what the hell is that armoroh no no noit looks terrible
>>743414905Isn't this just random astral? The one with the sky god is in the dragon split into two picture.
>>743417759colorblind moment, fixed
>>743420430>>apparently some buffs are applied after dmg cap and other aren't?No, all buffs are applied after dmg cap.>some sigils give different dmg output despite being the same percent, are some applied multiplicatively and others aren't, or some applied before damage cap and others aren't?Yeah some sigils are poorly worded and effect things differently from what they say.>>Is the goal in the expansion to get the DMG cap as high as possible now? because i dont see nearly as many people stacking damage increasing sigils anymore. Is the damage so inflated that you solely need to focus all your slots on DMG cap now?Yes, you will basically not need a single attack boosting sigil because you're hitting the caps regardless.
Please give us NicholasI need my rider kicks
>>743420430Don't forget that some debuffs stop working during Overdrive (like DEF down)Oh and some buffs stop working while they're in overdrive too, but not all of them!
>>743420532>シロウ>Nicholashuh?
>>743420419Pretty sure she's an astral who hit her head so hard she thinks she's a stinky gobu nano.
>>743419951That all sounds more manageable thanks. From 60 straight to mastery 20 with nothing in between sounded ridiculous.
>>743420593Translations for this game a super fucked, you're partially playing a fanfic written by the translators.
i want to max out Io so i have a tool against really annoying bosses that like to jump around a shitload. which mastery tree should i take? are there any noob traps in playing her?
>>743419185just wait until you get to the new lucy fightspost-paradise lost he immediately casts the end with a short timer (like 10s?) and if you fail to either stun him (easy) or kill his swords (much harder) it's an immediate fail
>>743420430>apparently some buffs are applied after dmg cap and other aren't?As far as I'm aware all offensive buffs raise damage above the damage cap now and all defense debuffs increase damage above damage cap as well.>some sigils give different dmg output despite being the same percent, are some applied multiplicatively and others aren't, or some applied before damage cap and others aren't?This isn't a thing with ER. Even back during base game updates there were inconsistencies with how effects were worded. As a general rule you should just assume that any attack sigil that isn't named Warpath or new in ER isn't worth using if all it provides is an attack or damage buff. New sigils that say they increase damage are actual multipliers that extend damage beyond the cap.>Is the goal in the expansion to get the DMG cap as high as possible now? because i dont see nearly as many people stacking damage increasing sigils anymore. Is the damage so inflated that you solely need to focus all your slots on DMG cap now?Damage cap is still one of the most important stats but unlike before there are so many sources of damage cap now that you aren't focusing purely on that single stat. The old Luci sigils that used to be meta are basically worthless now because the amount of damage cap you get per sigil slot is fucking garbage compared to the passive 1000% or whatever you get passively from masteries/summons/weapons. Adding another 30% does almost fucking nothing for your damage so you're better off optimizing for more utility.
>>743420419Goblins are basically an old skydweller warcrime. During the war they were created by a group called jorha as a way to make specific islands unlivable. Goblin "females" are just women modified to be able to direct them.
>>743419185yea, this game really likes its DPS/Stun or you auto-lose the entire quest gimmick for some reason, like its MH frontier.They really need a new way to shake up the gameplay other than just having you hope your teammates know how to build their character properly while you splooge all over the boss
Where do you get Warpath+ sigils? I didn't think they existed but I saw my friend's rental character had one.
>>743421429used to be from curios and knickknack only, but they drop like candy on chaos.
>>743421429Transmarvel drops a lot, the highest tier with normal tickets does too but a lot less.
>>743421473you're thinking of war elemental
>>743420532>We will never get to HYPER MEGATON KICK in Relink>We will never get to HYPER MEGATON KICK in VersusFeels bad.
>>743420532>malehard pass
So how do I build myself now? Which sigils do I replace?
>>743410531I thought this was just another gachaslop or some boring jrpg shit but its actually a singleplayer monhun-like from what I've seen? what's the consensus as a new player, should I play with the new expansion enabled or not? I don't want any streamlining or catch-up mechanics for base game like in monster hunter if there's any
>>743421429Save up 100 transmarvel tickets and savescum the results until you get what you want.>>743422042There are steamline mechanics in a sense but it's a completely separate game mode you need to actively go out of your way to engage with.
>>743422015Just be yourself bro
>>743422042When the option to enter something called a conflux/white looking portal is given, just ignore it until you finish up Proud difficulty quests or if you want to speed up a second character to play.
>>743422042>what's the consensus as a new playerUnlock the main story and progress the co-op asapYou can play offline with AI too if you prefer, but doing it with players is much faster since everyone is end game>should I play with the new expansion enabledYes if you bought it
>>743422042The catch up mechanic in Relink doesn't actually do much other than cut down on grind time. This isn't like Monster Hunter where you're given an easy mode weapon and armor set that trivializes everything.
where's the mod that removes the batch transmarvels?
>spend 15 minutes brute forcing a quest im too low level for>DPS check right at the end>Losehate this gay nigger shit. low effort, low creativity wall of progress.if i can scrape by underleveld, fucking let me, stop arbitrarily locking me out with your nigger DPS checks for no fucking reason. DPS checks aren't skill, theyre just grinding walls
>>743422739The skill is saving your SBA for it.
Did every chaos quest with a 2nd character.Still not enough MSP to reach master 50.Is slime grinding really the meta gameplay now.
>>743415660>>743418410I would suggest to do it for your main, then get your AI team ready and do it for them after you have them all up to 50 first.
beat infinity hexa and dropped the game dont see a real reason to autismo grind for perfectly min-maxxed summons
>>743423421It's "technically" the most efficient for MSP specifically but honestly I prefer doing the 4 dragons one at the end of Chaos++ cause it gives a bunch of other shit that you'll need for weapon upgrading too.
>finally beat the "final boss" of endless ragnarok>figure it'd be something really difficult>it was actually incredibly easy compared to all of the previous bosses' patternswerd
Does anybody knows where to find the King Silverslime for that one quest?
>>743411453there isn't one
>>743423683I dont want to grind either, I want to do a varied amount of quests but the DLC doenst even give me enough MSP to reach 50 with a character I need to grind.Might just start playing with a new character.
>>743423870yes, you can find one in the Lair of the King Silverslime quest in chaos++
>>743411453Tea drinking hobbit is more engaging
>>743423912Then why don't you? All end game quests give plenty of MSP.
>>743423870conflux 2, just keep doing it and try to do fights not dexterity.I got it after 2 or 3 tries, you end up just nuking it not even realizing it was there but the slimes spawn in the 1st arena in most cases.
>stuck at 97k weapon strength>54k power>leveled past 50 4 times, only one more to goIs this the end for me anons? I dont want to leave ny 300k health...
>>743423998I'm at a comfy 180k hp with stout heart (25% damage reduction), the sigil that gives more damage reduction while you have stout heart, and the sigil that gives you more def the higher your hp is. I basically never get oneshot and small hits get healed by drain before they become an issue.
>>743424927Yeah being under 200k now feels less harsh than being under 45k did in the base game.
>>743423421Slimes were meta in the original game because they gave you basically everything you'd want outside of Terminus weapons. This time around they don't really give anything except MSP and a very, very, very rare shot at a very specific summon which will end up garbage nine times out of ten that you do happen to see it drop. There's realistically no reason to be farming it outside of a handful of runs for some quick MSP to bump up a character. Most of your farming should be spent in content where you can actually get good summons because they account for the biggest power spikes and contribute the most to build flexibility.
whats the best quest to farm for stout heart summon?
>>743419890It's not impossible. Fediel players deserve nothing.
>>743425072m29, only won because she doesnt become broken until m30 master trait
>>743425072>song MVPyour teammates might have all three been lobotomized
>>743425046The skelly man with the bag on his head at the end of Chaos++.>>743425072>>743425131>>743425207Song literally always gets MVP because she absolutely shits out buffs and debuffs more than anyone which massively sway the MVP score. Beating Fediel with her means nothing. Same with Cag.
>>743425046AFK the postgame skeleton.
>>743425072>prior to master traitI feel like people don't understand what it is that actually makes Fediel so strong and they think she's just an inherently busted character.
>>743425297is it just the retarded "dodge cancel into spamming 5 orbs" playstyle that is disgustingly broken on her?what are her other master traits even?
>>743425207>your teammates might have all three been lobotomizedIt is not that rare of an occurence
>>743425297>people on /v/ are retards that just parrot other people's opinions without actually thinking about it themselvesWho could have guessed.
I thought granblue and FGO was the same franchise. All gacha is so trash.
>>743425263Debilitator is a pretty guaranteed boost to your chances for MVP but I didn't even get it in that one
We can all agree that Zeta is the worst playable characterBut what character is the worst companion?
>>743425131what about this
>>743425348She's only an outlier with orb spam. She's a good character in general but she's not broken unless you lean heavily on that one clearly imbalanced trait.>>743425445Ferry is probably the worst companion because not only is she an extremely weak character in general but the AI plays her in a very retarded way. I guess she gets points for an easy defense down debuff but there are plenty of characters who can provide that while also providing good buffs or high personal damage.
>>743425470Vaseraga is the only character who could be considered on the same tier as the Feds
>>743425470>>743425552I've always wanted to try vaseraga but everytime I see him being played he's riding on LOW hp and I dont like that. Is that just his gimmick or something?
Is drain still bad for characters that attack once but hard (like Io and Vas) instead of 20 times per second?
>>743425649Is drain good for maglielle?
>>743425552Absolutely not, Vas has to work for his damage, know fights and positions, while Fediel is braindead easy.
>>743425548>She's only an outlier with orb spam. She's a good character in general but she's not broken unless you lean heavily on that one clearly imbalanced trait.well, then i have hope that if they feel the need to balance her they won't swing too hard into the other direction and make her complete garbage independent of the playstyle instead.But if it's just the orb spam that's a problem it should be an easy tweak.I like the tall lady who runs and dodges way too cutesy for her size. too bad i can't play her or everyone thinks i only do because she is busted.
is behemoth III super rare or somethingi have only two after plenty of tries
>>743425649Yes. Drain sucks unless you're playing a fast attacker. Most characters manage HP with Nimble Defense and Regen/Divergence.>>743425686It works on Maglielle because if you're playing her right she's constantly dealing damage multiple times per second.
For maglielle is there a preferred combo finisher? Like, do you want the XXX Y finisher or just spam X Y?
What summons would have healing cap 100%? Highest I've seen is 50%.
Which female characters do the most damage as AI companions?I only want to use waifus and after I build one ideally I'd like them to still be useful as an AI companion when I want to play someone different.All the "best companion build them!!!" zoomers seem to be heavily shilling male characters.
>>743425348>is it just the retarded "dodge cancel into spamming 5 orbs" playstyle that is disgustingly broken on her?Yes that is literally the only thing that's busted and it's only because of the dodge cancel. If they made it so you couldn't quickly reset the animation with a dodge cancel to shit out balls like 3 times as quickly. Patch that and she's fine. No need for drastic changes.
>>743425635he has a jammed attack buff that needs you to be on low hp to be useful, otherwise you don't need to play on low hp, and he has stout heart + def buffs naturally, which makes him a bit tankier than most normally, only issue is that he has an unironic big body and some patterns are harder to dodge because of it.
>>743425889>or just spam X Y?Range is too small and active time is too short, so I almost never use it
>>743425889If i get the refund correctly from blade dance i tend to do XXXYXXXXY which seems to fill 2/3 of her bar pretty nicely and then go directly into pissing swords again.The XXXY i feel like is the nicest since it stays up for a while and sticks to the enemy if you do the powered up version so gives you a good amount of time to build meter. But it is a pain to track smaller enemies with it.
>>743426054What do you use anon? I try to get the blade tornado as much as I can (enhanced version). XX Y is fine too but I don't know if the payoff is worth it.
Loving marriage with bea
>>743426061Got a ss of your current build anon?
>>743425889Full combo is higher damage but it can be difficult to land on certain enemies. XY triggers the enhanced attack instantly so even against small or speedy enemies it's easy to go right into a combo to build ~1/3 of your gauge and repeat.>>743425943Probably Fediel(good personal damage plus attack buff and defense debuff), Cag(strong buffs, shielding, reviving, defense down) and a toss-up between Tweyen/Maglielle/Fraux. Possible Charlotta but I don't know how well the AI uses her.
>>743425943Fraux. She has perfect execution similar to vanilla game Zeta and her loops.Magliele is also good since she aimbots and can keep her shield at max for her massive damage buff although I don't know if she's max damage.
>>743424974Summoins are the real grind in ER but MSP is needed so much that like you said you need to farm slimes for a bump.In base game you never needed to farm slimes, for anything, but people did in hopes of getting a prismatic slime.You just gave me a good idea though, I might as well kill 2 birds with 1 stone and farm sumnmons rather than slimes, yeah MSP gain will be longer but its more economical.
What sub-traits are good on summons? Healing cap? SBA stuff?
>>743426061I've never seen the X followup after a powered up finisher, what does it even look like? I assume that's what you mean by XXXXY right?
How bad are the infinity fights?
I thought they made it so attack buffs let you deal damage beyond the cap now but I seem to be doing about the same damage whether I use Phatasmagoria or not.
>>743425743nevermindguess all i had to do was to complain here
>>743410531I'm a little surprised by how Maglielle plays. I was expecting more like Gate of Babylon stuff and the attacks being normal and not this weird turret mode and having to spam held X>Y
>>743425943Maglielle, Cag and Fraux probably
>>743426393You can hit damage cap +100% on high tier summons.
>every single aspect of upgrading your character is just +damage cap shit againthis shit is trash
>>743426612I have yet to see snny 100% traits. Are they in infinity?
>>743426671Possible on chaos++ but very unlikely
>>743426654Not really. Damage cap matters significantly less than before because you get such a fucking massive amount of it passively. Autism min-maxing for damage gains less than 2% damage per sigil slot.
>>743426654There's so many sources of it now and you hit such a high level of it that you hit serious diminishing returns. You don't actually need it all because even scoring +100 damage cap on a summon is probably only going to be a 5% gain at best.
>>743426671Nyes.
>>743410531More people should use Vane, every run with him around is smooth as hell.Not me though, lmao
I just came back from vacation. How is the DLC? Do I need to max out everything in the main game before trying it?
>>743426424>XXXXYno, i just mean to do one full rotation of her basic string and just drop a XY. she builds more of her meter while one of her finishers is active and since the enhanced XXXY is active for real long and tracks i just like to finish on an XY especially on smaller enemies since then i don't have to bother tracking for too long before going into her blade stream. Though now that i did a quick test it doesn't look like that's enough to fill 2/3 of her meter...though in the heat of battle all that shit goes out the window anyway and I forget how to play. and during link time she just holds Y anyway.>>743426240Not much of a build i got going. i threw on some shit i had from the end of base game and i haven't bothered to replace or level anything besides throwing fatebreaker sigil on.Hell, i still don't have any of her unique sigils and no clue how much they would change her.
>>743426758>>743426776Yeah I'm building for comfy traits way more than I was in base game.
>>743426612>>743426671I would assume any III summon can drop level 15 sigils, I expect only the summons like lucillius, rolan, beezlebub and lilith have the 100 traits.Mainly because they are all end game summons, only needed for end game infinity quests and in those quests you dont even use summons.
I love my giant retard dragon wife.
>>743426793Nah, you can start doing the new ER content pretty smoothly with a very basic build that you can slap together with random shit acquired while clearing each quest once up to Bahamut.
>>743426782>>743426840How bad are the fights? Or am I just better off farming elsewhere?
>>743426848There's several characters in the granblue universe who could say this line and several retarded dragons it could apply to.
>>743426840Summoning any of the dragons is quite common in Infinity World to deal with the death card.
I don’t want to collect the crabs…
>>743426919get to crabbin anon
>>743426915Until they add Wamdus as a playable character, Fediel will have to do.
>>743426905They are end game quests so expect you to know mechs, have high stun and big damage and survivibility.Other than the boss having more damage, health, debuffs etc and being on a timer, its the exact same matches of chaos++. Though bhamut versa is dark sword nightmare instead (with id)
>>743426970I honestly wonder IF they'll add any new characters.
>>743426919Get to crebbin anonI need to do it toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC73harJp14&t=250s
>>743426905It's mostly the same fight except timers and stun checks are tighter. There are edicts that can help you do mega damage, so make sure to read up on them on the quest board.
>>743426905They're not really that bad. The power recommendation is misleading because they're based on the free +10k you get for level 51 mastery. If you can handle everything in Chaos++ with no trouble then you can probably get through the challenge fights.>>743426919Everything except slimes are shown on the map now so it's pretty easy to collect them. At worst there are a handful that may require a few seconds of thinking because they require you to look around and find a path to descend/climb.
>>743427025I really hope they do. There are so many characters. If they bring Octavia over I'll be happy.
>>743426994I have 300 stun, 350k health, and attack value at 100k. I dunno if that's good enough.
Dear CygamesPlease add lewd Wamdus, Jamil, Basara and Fiorito to relink.I will also accept Ayer/Bowman
idbros my thumb is tired
>turn on dps meterWell the results are quite humbling if that even is enough to describe the reality.
>>743427081I dont know how you can have that much stun, health and atk?I assume you are using ascension weapon?250 stun is basically the requirement to not fuck the quests up.
>>743427081Just knowing the mechanics is all you need. Like not being Beel's dunk volleyball or attacking swords during The End.
>>743427153I will leech your raids as a support character and you can't stop me
>>743427060I didn't even notice a power increase when I hit 51 honestly. I'm 54 and I feel like i'm basically capped out at this point, hit the damage ceiling. Unless 55 gives me a shit load I doubt i'm pushing past 100k attack even with a maxed out ascension.
>>743427243There's not much value in getting really high attack when you'll get brick walled by the damage cap anyway.
>>743427162>I dont know how you can have that much stun, health and atk?It's pretty easy to reach those numbers with the right masteries. Stun is the only thing that isn't handed to you on a silver platter.
>>743427324I'm still hitting anywhere from 150% to 275%. Despite having lumen, fatebreaker, regular dmg cap, and so forth. I feel like they need to tweak it just slightly, that or some characters genuinely struggle to hit the caps.
>>743426776>>743426758I have damage cap out the ass from sigils, masteries, and fully transcended weapons and I'm STILL doing like %200-300 on the dummy so I have no idea where you guys are getting so much extra cap that I'm apparently missingI'm not even running atk+ or anything like that either, obviously
I'm maining Fediel and I hit an 800% against the training dummy. That number was BIIIIIG.
>>743427340Not all 3, health stun and atk that high
I wish my first impression with Bea wasn't in Versus Rising, she looks like a fun character but she just pisses me off now
>>743427535Fully maxed ascended, maxed out my stun, and I love aegis/great aegis.
>>743420596Where’s Lily?I need Lily in this game…
>>743427439>I have no idea where you guys are getting so much extra cap that I'm apparently missingYou're not missing anything, it seems like 200-300% is "normal" because pushing damage cap only goes so far since it's additive and every skill you slap on isn't really adding much to it at all (on its own, at least) since you already have a shitload baked into your character and weapon from the get go.
>>743427439>>743427419Might even be worse since apparently the training dummy isn't set to Chaos by default so fatebreaker sigils don't work.
>>743427217The one who got humbled hard is me, anon. I'm afraid you aren't leeching anything from a wet noodle.
>>743427419Yeah i dont get their reasoning, and then there is all these "get affected by this debuff get +100% dam cap"Its retarded, like sure on a few quests you could purposely get affected by that debuff and then do a little more damage.it should have been the other way around, do +100% cap to enemies affected by debuffs.
Do people still run Narmaya's Warpath? I took it off early in the DLC to make room for Fatebreaker and never bothered to put it back once I got more free space after summons.Never really liked that sigil anyway and I still didn't get a + variant
Is there anything after mastery 55 or is that it?
>>743427439You're looking at this the wrong way anon. In the base game you built your sigils around stacking as much attack and damage cap as possible because it made a big difference. That's no longer the case. You're handed so much free attack that even with autism min/maxing, perfect summons and foregoing utility for inefficient sigils like Luci's you're still going to be dealing more damage than you can overcome with damage cap.This makes it so you have a ton of flexibility with how you want to build. Are you a tryhard who cares about squeezing in as much damage as possible? You have that option. Do you want to build more defensively because you're not confident? You can do that without neutering your damage to the point of griefing your team. Do you want to build for utility to improve the feel of your character? Go right ahead. Build in whatever way makes the game most enjoyable to you. You actually have those options now while still being able to contribute to the team whereas before ER attack and damage cap was so central that you barely had any spare sigil slots left to do much of anything else.
>>743427631>+200% cap from poison+burn>cog can do boththe strongest support....
>>743427792She can burn???
>4 different Percivals>they all keep DYINGwhat the fuck is wrong with these niggers, I don't play him but I thought anons said he's supposed to be unkillable? what are these chinks doing
>>743427923Chinks are famously terrible at all games unless they’re cheating.
>>743427840Yeah crippling combos traits
>beat The World in Chaos++>"good job, now refight the eternals why not"uuuuuuh, how much longer is chaos++?
>>743427631>it should have been the other way around, do +100% cap to enemies affected by debuffs.I'm almost positive those traits were put in almost exclusively for Conflux stuff because debuffs are far more common and there are ways to debuff yourself.
>>743427987Fraux's story isn't the ending of ER.
Why's there no high power Cornflakes challenge mode anyway.
>>743427923you're playing clock bea who's basically unkillable, have pity
>>743428106yeah, i guess bubs was also being all vague and shit at the end of cycle 5 so probably still have to beat him up with other people too.Then they probably throw a chaos++ lucy in because why not and then Fediel still has to observe a couple fucking or whatever her motivation for being here is.
>>743428032I cant imagine why, the conflux is not even that hard. I did level 5, must have been 10 master and my AI still using all the terminus end game stuff.>>743427792I didnt know that she can apply elemental affects, but many can, percy afflicts burn.having those stats so they boost damage with debuffs on bosses would have made it so more team comp means more damage (though would force an AI meta/team meta)As it is now its just there as a stupid option to turn on and off/have builds set up for specific matches that have those debuffs.its not even worth it either as any quest that applies those debuffs are not that difficult anyway.None of the infinity quests apply those debuffs.
>>743427737That is it.As far as I can tell too its not worth the MSP grind for anyone but your main. Then maybe use them on your main AI when you have a team all the way to 50. Just for the extra cap.
>>743427923Percy is reasonably high skill, you have to get his timings right and if you fuck up timing its pretty much eat damage or lose dps.these retards probably dont have shit like stronghold or steady focus on.PC retards so most likely dont know how to play, just cheated everything and are copying builds others told them to use.
oh boy the anti PC schizo is back, great...
NOW ITS SANDALPHONS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>>743428154Just unlocked the gold clock. Is it better to mash Y or use the skills off cooldown?>>743428573>2 deadweight consolephonnow what
>>743428419Mastery traits are just all over the place. Like the random att+10% that doesn't go over cap, or why everyone even has crit damage +9%
>>743428913>forgot pic
I got the DLC a few days ago, but I didn't reach proud when I played the game on release (just. I'm so lost, the game has been pushing me to use Terminus weapons (those are the closest thing I can seem to use, where I'm not too behind in PWR), but i just don't understand how i'm supposed to progress the game. Of course I get oneshot by most things because I'm bad and I have a Terminus weapon, without even dealing big damage. And I'm relatively "stuck" on using one character.Now I'm stuck against Gallanza (and I'm like 2k PWR behind the recommendation)Is there any build guide somewhere? I play offline because I don't want to grief people.
Did they add new playable characters?
>>743428940There's that transcendent weapon skill that boosts your damage cap relative to how much crit you have over 100% but who the fuck's using it.
>>743429092>>743428940I guess shit like this is for players completely new to the game with ER
>>743429092Oh yeah, I sort of understand the multiple crit+25% because you can't crit cap without overmastery and you can pick which mastery tier you can use it on. Also for Stinger although it's just wildly outclassed by both ascension and terminus. But I genuinely am stumped what crit damage+9% even is doing. If it went over cap and just applies over your final damage sure, but it doesn't look like it.>>743429010I think you should already have transcendence on defender weapons available. You can use that instead of terminus so you can bulk up a bit. If you're offline, don't forget to also build and gear your AI allies. They're legitimately better than probably 80% of randoms.
Anyone know the best way to get Grand Refinium I? I need so fucking much of this shit and even Conflux barely has any and I can't find any quest that has a good drop of them.
>>743429010dont use terminus weapons, transcend you defender
>>743429010The game has a rather formulaic pwr increase structure.Choose base weapon. Uncap that weapon, level it up.Get all character masteries, weapon masteries.Uncap and level the other base weapons, get all those weapon masteries.Get overmastery level 3.Use whatever sigils you have that increases in tier.When you get to the 1st proud mission, make a build.(damage cap)After the 1st proud mission you start getting V+ sigils. Now you proper make a build, level the sigils up that you are using. Damage cap V++ doesnt drop until bhamut, where you get the terminusGet ascension, uncap and level it up. Use ascension, awaken ascension.Get terminus, uncap and level it up. awaken terminus, use awakened terminus.Then you can go for the opus sigils (lucilius) or skip to ER.ER: Get defender weapon materials, transcend it to level 3.Use MSP in new mastery system to make a new build.Get new sigils, upgrade sigils.Get new base weapon materials, transcend the weapons, use whatever you want.Get ascension materials, transcend ascension weapon. Use ascension weapon.Get terminus materials, transcend terminus, use transcend terminus.Spend shit loads of MSP to overcap your mastery to 55...Sigil synthesize so you are using the meta damage shit.Game completed...for one character.Now do it again with everyone else.
>>743429525>>743429372Thanks for the tip, guys!>>743429582Wow, that's a lot of advice for me to use! Exactly what I was looking for, THANK YOU!
>>743429390Just do every quest in order in low chaos and see which drops the most refinum.its most likely gonna be one of the horde mode tier quests.
>>743410531I found the japanese voices annoying.
>>743429668>Wow, that's a lot of adviceI was just being reasonably thorough as the pwr increase.Its rather simple to figure out, if you can level up, awaken, uncap, upgrade, transcend...do that and you will be getting stronger.You need MSP for masteries and the new mastery system.Materials to upgrade weapons and sigils.Money to pay to upgrade shit.
Are celestial aqua/incendo worth using over other utility or survivability options? Break damage seems a bit overly specific to be too worthwhile but enemies are in overdrive pretty often yeah?
>>743418084Good enough. High 200s/300 is ideal, but not really necessary.
>>743429908It is character specific.for example, rackham can shill keep the damage on pretty much every boss so the extra damage in overdrive is where gandagoza can barely hit a boss in mode but when they are in link or break he does BIG damage so the extra damage in break would be brilliant for him.In fact that extra damage in break is also good for rackham as that is when you can defo get the big bomb off. I am using both on my rackham atm.
>>743429908Incendo sounds like a brick since it's just 50% dmg cap.Aqua though is damage dealt. It also works during chain burst and link time.
>>743425348Yeah basically. Her 5 orb finishers give so much SBA gauge, and pair that with being able to animation cancel it, you can easily get full SBA by the time others will be at like 50%.
>>743426458Everything but Luci is fine. Luci is just the same visual vomit as his previous versions.
If we're going to assume this game's going to get content updates like the base game did what do you think they're going to add be it new characters, new bosses or even no avenues of progression?
>>743430431It doesn't matter as much, you will just force bloodthirst if you SBA without full burst.
>>743420049This, i love seeing any of the big guys being played
>>743428913Mash that Y.
So is Immortal Shell actually the best sigil in the game or not?
Do you need to complete the whole mission when collecting the new crabs or can you exit after picking it up?
>>743430814You can exit after collecting them, you can do this for any collectable really (slimes, chests...)
Some of the music in this update is amazing.AS I PRAY TO YOUUUUUUU is now getting associated to people who just wasted their SBA on trying to stop a paradise lost and are now at 30% while luci is casting The End.
>>743430724All I know is that if the two traits on a sigil is worth as much or less than 110% damage cap (eg stun+celestial Terra/Lumen), immortal beats it.
>>743430865Thanks
>>743430895Unfortunately it does not have my favorite song from grub though. But it really is Six's song so I understand why it did not come up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9sDCHySub4
>>743430895SOUND THE TRUMPETSTO THE EMPIRE'S EEEEEEEND
>>743430593Get a load of this anon who doesn't understand how valuable Ferry was back when she built SBA twice as fast as everyone else despite not having damage. Orb spam Fediel is basically a mix between pre-nerf aerial Rackam's damage and pre-nerf Ferry's SBA generation. I don't think you understand how fucking busted this is.
disappointed that the infinity bosses are all so easy.None of them feel as hard as Zero did.
>>743431474Force bloodthirst didn't exist back then.
>>743426458They dont change much from their Chaos ++versions. Do/Avoid their gimmicks and youll be fine>The WorldThe gimmick is Perfect Block, he gets insta stunned gets a debuff that amps your damage by 300%(?).By far the easiest in the list, poor guy just explodes.>bubzHe throws more colored orbs than before, getting hit by them increases his stats, he becomes dangerous at 5 stacks of landing orbs.If you fall from the arena you lose permanent max HP.>LuciliusThe fight that has a bunch of shit going around at all times, for each hit you lose 20%(?) of your max HP pool, can only healed by doing damage to Lucilius, how quick depends on tje damage and debuff stacks.>VersaHP sponge and now you actually wanna kill id cause hell grant you a really strong "buff" (getting by Versa grants you the same effect but killing Id lasts way longer)>Hexa Dont dieYou start with practically no critical bar, if you spend more than 5 seconds on the floor, the round ends as soon as it started.You can gain some critical bar back if you complete the trials.
>>743427153Its sad seeing people do less damage than my Oigen bot
>>743430895I'LL SHATTER THIS SKY WHEN THE LAST CHAIN BREAKSIN THE ASHES, AND THE RUINSWE'LL ABIDE TO RECREATEAN AGE OF REVOLUTION WILL DAWN
>>743431550I mean Zero is just a dogshit fight.>Watch this movie>Dodge some shit for 30 seconds>Do some damage for 15 seconds>Now watch this movie>Dodge some shit>Now watch another movie>Okay you can play now>But only for 20 seconds before you have to watch this movie
I can't fail infinity quests if I don't play them.
>>743432098You forgot the part that the "you can play now" is 50% chasing him as he teleports from one edge to the other.
>>743432098I hope they don't bring his fucking ass anymore. Tired of that fucking spastic boss. Him being in Infinity was already tiring.
How do i know what abilities stack and don't stack? apparently some sigils like two-crown boundary dont stack with terminus weapons for example?Also i assume not, but do imbued weapon abilities contribute to the "x basic type sigils" total?
>>743432098>Siete&Song fight shown the trailer>excited for Gal&Mal 2.0>finally play the expansion>cutscene, cutscene, cutscene, cutscene>"uh...well it was a tutorial fight kinda a harder version is probably ahead">indeed they get two more fights>cutscene, colored floor, cutscene, colored floor, cutscene, colored floor, cutscene
>>743429390I've been doing Gray Gear Reverberance. Drops 5-7 a go and if your damage is high enough you can just nuke it before the shield ever goes up. Takes me like 35 seconds.Every other boss in that tier either flies and is annoying to hit or otherwise has some mechanic that slows down your kill time.
>>743432632Siete & Song are a million times better than Lucy. For the majority of the time when those two are doing some AoE arena-flooding stuff, you can do something other than just evade. Either hit the other one, and if the other one is taking a break, you can usually hit the one attacking you. The only time where you really can't interact with the boss and have to just dodge is during Asteroid Jaeger or 1-2 of Siete's big circle AoEs.
I will fail your infinity quests with ferry and you will enjoy the pits
Are attack sigils still worthless and a player trap for mh fags, or damage cap changes fixed it?
>40k health>chaos++seriously what the fuck is wrong with these people
>>743433623If anything, they are even more useless now. Stuff like Tyranny/Stamina had some use but now nothing that just gives you raw attack matters now because your Masteries and weapons will cover that for you
>>743433623attack sigils are still badi've gotta say that damage cap really sucks ass >>743433680based dodge gawd
>>743433680They got carried there. And they'll be carried on into infinity quests.
>>743433623as in the basic "attack I-V" sigils? the only real use they have is being used to get the bonus effects for having basic sigils in your grid; but theres really no reason to use those instead of the other basic stat sigils instead
>>743433623Attack sigils only have value while you're leveling or if you're playing base-game content. It doesn't take very long for transcended weapons and new masteries to give you fuckloads of attack to the point that you never have to worry about getting more attack from your sigils. They're obsolete once you progress far enough.
In the end what's the DLC like if I never bothered grinding all the way to end-game? I had some max level characters as I remember, about the last thing I did IIRC was grind some mission to get some items so I could unlock Tweyen, so that's about as far as I got.If I want to play the DLC, do I have to go through some massive grind to catch up?
>>743433731>i've gotta say that damage cap really sucks assI kinda liked how it fixed mh autism, but on the other hand it fucks over characters with rare slow attacks, and gives too much power to someone like Maglielle who has shitton attacks per second. And glass canon fags are still around anyway. But idea wasn't so bad...
>>743434001If you unlocked her I think you can go straight to the DLC content.
>>743434001the first thing the dlc does is give you conflux to catch up to endgame.
I still haven't the foggiest idea how weapon grids work in the gacha
>>743434001>If I want to play the DLC, do I have to go through some massive grind to catch up?If you were far enough to be trying to unlock Tweyen then you're definitely strong enough to jump right into ER content. The early Chaos difficulty quests are easier than the mid Proud quests and you're very quickly introduced to new mechanics that give you a ton of character power which does not rely on min/max sigil autism or having a fully awakened Terminus weapon. The power curve is handled extremely well and you shouldn't have to grind at all until you're near the end of new content.
>>743420330One of the new races in the gacha.Those are furries and all the female ones seems tiny.
>>743434157That takes me back, it used to be that you had to use collab weapons in your grid since they gave bonusses on a different multiplier, and if you missed those collabs you were fucked. I haven't played the game in forever.
>>743434053Yeah, I unlocked Tweyen when I had access to whatever mission it was which allowed me to farm the items I needed for her. I think the mission was in some lava field and had 2 phases basically, first you'd use some turrets to shoot flying enemies and then they'd start spawning from behind and you'd fight them normally. You also had to kill a certain number to hit a condition to actually get the needed item if I remember right. I played Tweyen a bit as well after that, but not too much. I don't remember exactly where I stopped, but IIRC I had upgraded Tweyen enough to the point where I was doing similar or more damage playing her as I was with the previous character I used (which was Zeta).>>743434067That's some new roguelite mode, right? I've seen people talk about it.>>743434235That sounds good then. So I should either be at sufficient power already or if not I can catch up quickly with the new game mode. I should probably pick the DLC up before everyone stops playing then.
>>743434529i've been playing on and off for 3 years now and have just been copying basic magna 2 and 3 grids, and still have no idea what i'm doing.
With Bea tank I've been breezing every mission, I'm at super(?) lucilius now.Is there any difficulty spike soon? I'm honestly a bit disappointed for now.
>>743434751>play character that ignore core game mechanic>wtf why so ezhurr durr i retard
>S++ every mission>got every achievement>finished my buildNow what?
>>743427036what do you gain from doing the crabs?
>>743434886getting a job couldn't hurt
>>743434886Get the bub sticker
>>743434862cope harder shitter
>>743434157Don't worry about it.
>>743434981I was playing today during a meeting at work because I only had to listen to a boring hour-long presentation and didn't have to say shit
>>743435045
>>743410531I gave the demo a try. A shame you can't try out the other characters in the story demo because the MCs moveset is pretty bland. Are the other characters good, and can you play as them in the story?
>>743431029enlightened taste
>>743434929Unique sigils.
>>743435210>and can you play as them in the story?yes. you can swap to any character youve unlocked after i think the prologue. And you earn character unlock tickets pretty quickly so you can unlock any character you want right out the gate if you wantwhether you like how they play or not i dont know.
>>743435210Yeah you can play anyone n the story, when you unlock them just the captain needs to be in the team.Keep in mind that characters move sets change when you level them up, some when you get their unique sigils and everyone when you get to ER has 3 distinct playstyles.
>>743435445>ER has 3 distinct playstylescmon lol, there's only 1 that's intended for most character. Other's are filler trash
>>743435210iirc in the demo after the story chapter ends you're free to do a couple of quests and half the roster of the game is available to you.The main story is like 95% playable with the character of your choice. You still need to unlock them but the game lets you try them before spending ressources.
>>743435592I have only checked 2 characters out yet and of the 2 only 2 styles on 1 char and 1 style on the other yet I can see they are completely different styles of play.Percy 2 styles I played are so distinct, cant even tell which is best, though they could be better suited for different bosses. All 3 of his styles are clearly unique.>Other's are filler trashMaybe you are just a shitter who cant build characters right and play their toolset differently.
>>743433680Sandy has a unique sigil that locks his HP below 45k for +100% cap, I guarantee he refuses to let go of it.
>>743435786lol lmao, well keep your expectation high anon
>>743433680>he needs more than 43k HPwatch and learn, bud
>>743435696>>743435445>>743435428Christ I just quit the story demo and tried the quest demo and there's like twenty characters to try
Going to start a collage of pictures where I steal MVP from Fediel players
>>743435890You must simply be a retard.
>>743435994Based SongGAWDdebuffs gives you a ton of honors
>>743435592>t. Fediel player
What should I be looking for from wrightstones and my 4 random overmastery bonuses?
Can anyone explain to me what the actual fuck you're supposed to do against Hexa? Casue I have no idea how the fuck people can say this shit is easy. Not because the actual fight is hard but simply because of how unreasonably fucking tanky this asshole is. How the fuck am I supposed to accomplish the trails when those fucking things are damn near impossible to kill without just spamming your SBA on them.
>>743436734It's the first boss that expects you to have more than just your main character invested in just like the Pyet A was in the base game. Either stop and work on your companions for a while or get carried in co-op.
>>743434929The best sigil in the game
Are sigils with Path to Mastery even a thing?I somehow don't have any after 240h in game.So the only source of this skill is summons for me.
>>743437154How have you not gotten any? They're pretty common from specific quests.
Siete is so fucking weird to play as.
>>743437030Well how invested are you talking? Cause I've got all of them at mastery trait 50 with 3 stun, 2 HP sigils with max level damage cap, max level sup damage, almost all their weapons maxed with their masteries unlocked. How much more am I needing?
>>743437306Only part I don’t really get is swordshine. When the meter stops glowing does that mean I’m not getting the buff anymore and have to dump it?
>>743437154isn't it a conflux sigil reward? I have one but forgot if I got it from that or some side quest.
>>743437348Anon what the hell are you doing? I was thinking you were still at mastery 30 or something with companions at 20. Are you talking about the Defy Infinity version? In that case you need to do some manual SBA fuckery and save your own if needed for the next one.
>>743432632they jumped the shark with cutscenes during fights for sure. ironically they feel utterly mundane now because of how many fights they're in
>>743437154>>743437515I mistakenly deleted mine after starting ER thinking they will be useless.They dont drop on 2nd traits only a standard sigil as a V version. You need to go back to before V+ and after IV+ sigils are dropping to find them on the quests.Still, the better way to do them new, because obviously you are only gonna be using them for one quest, slimes, is to farm slime summons, which drop with that trait, rupee collectors too.I have 3 so far, I think that is enough for max
How strict are the parry timings for characters like Charlotta and Percival? The same as a perfect guard or easier? Are they universal or they vary from character to character?
>>743438134Universal, timing it right as the attack lands. Captain has one too, anyone with a charge attack you can let go to attack should have one.
>>743437847Yeah I'm talking about the Infinity version.>manual SBA fuckeryKind of annoying with the CPU either doing all of their SBA or using none of them. This is kinda similar to the World where he's by far the easiest fight of the 5 online but he's one of the harder ones solo cause the perfect blocks become mandatory and you are 1/4 as effective at doing them cause the CPU will literally never perfect block over dodging.
>>743437458Build avatar gauge (leftmost) with combo finishers then summon avatar (Y button) and build swordshine gauge (rightmost) with combo finishers / damage skills while the avatar gauge depletes.Once max swordshine you can avatar finisher with the long combo (XXXYY) OR Infinito Creare machinegun if you have the funny Mastery style which is essence. Infinito Creare machinegun ends with a avatar finisher once the avatar gauge runs out IT IS NOT the same as a regular AF its a very fast lunge with good reach.
>>743438134percivals is extremely easy. If you take the 2 increased parry window nodes it feels like half a second
I only remembered to equip my Terminus after the last transcendence step (before Infinity)
>>743436734Just don't die, your AI won't. Save SBAs for 71% and 31%, get link time off the first and second Logos it spawns
>proto bahamut>suffer through dogshit fight for 15m>last 15% dps check>>ai#4 presents the myth of consensual link time, isn't there somebody you forgot to ask?>>>BLLLAAAARGH I STILL HAVE 2% YOUR DEADWhy did they make this fight of all of them the one you have to grind?
>>743434886how did you get the 4 calamity aura achievement
>>743438752I lost because my CPU died though.
>>743439017First conflux 5 I did after unlocking infinity gave me a shitton of calamity auras, so I assume unlocking it makes them more common.I wouldn't know because I only did conflux 1 afterwards for the 50 surveys achievement.
>>743425889Finisher 1 is weakest but it's pink version activates basically instantly and is good for small humans. You can quickly dodge cancel after it and then go right into another attack+finisher 1 to quickly build gauge.Finisher 2 is solid AoE for hitting groups and is stronger then finisher 1. It's easy to control so it's pretty reliable for hitting things.Finisher 3 is the strongest but moves fast and is the hardest to control. Because it moves fast, it's also good when you're far away from whatever you're attacking but it can still be used in melee range as well. It's great for large enemies like dragons, I usually just let it go through them a bit then tilt the stick backwards to have it go back into them and that's usually enough to get the pink version. The tornado itself also has good AoE. I don't really know what the "optimal DPS" is to be honest. I usually just go for the finisher that best suits situation.
>missed out on a link time after perfect blocking the World 3 times in a row cause some retarded fucked it up and died
>pressed B to trigger link time>my character jumps towards the boss>finger slips and I accidentally press dodge, cancelling the attack>happened twice in a rowI'm sorry
This is bad im getting the urge to start playing the gacha again
>the only way to get terminus to its final transcendence level is to do the beyond infinity questsnooooo bahamut versa was pretty easy but his attack pattern is easy as fuck to deal with, he isn't really beyond infinity
>>743439689same, but apparently they changed something and i have to log in via steam now? the fuck?Probably for the better that i am too lazy to figure out how to get my old account back.
>>743438462With insight tree I can sit in avatar mode for a pretty long time so I wonder if it’s worth going for the big finisher asap. I need to test it out on the dummy later.
>>743439787I thought u cant use your mobage logjn in steam? That changed?
Is there any way to get a good warpath sigil besides transmarvel scumming I only see one of the one I want every hour and it's always got some shit seconday
>>743433680It's possible to get dragged into chaos++ quests right after you unlock regular chaos via quick quest.I got dragged into versa and id before I even unlocked weapon transcendence.
better luck with the mvp next time horny dragons..!!
>>743439887i have no clue. i just saw that going to the website wants me to log in via steam. and trying to go the the jp website just sends me to the appstore where i can't download the game due to region.i am too lazy to get the apk from somewhere else and see if i can use my old login then.
>>743429390Revenge of the ooze.It drops Grand Refinium II too.
If you don’t go for the overkill SBA every time you are a soulless bugperson.
how do you discover what an optimal rune build is for characters?
>>743439689I probably would enjoy it if I had a time machine but starting a gacha 12 years after it released sounds like a terrible idea to me. That feeling of knowing you are joining something closer to the end than the beginning really sucks.
>>743440232having the boss die from the bahamut blast from above will never not be cool as shit and i am very upset when someone doesn't extend it to full burst just because it would be dead already anyway.
>>743439818Don't know the exact numbers but you feel way stronger in Avatar mode. Faster attack speed, twice the range, mastery buffs and your stand acts as a form of supplemental damage. It also buffs damage skills. Keep in mind that A. Finisher is free during link time also.
>>743431029Anon...it does though, in the second fight of eternals phase 2
What trait do you have on your terminus weapon? Is it worth having glass canon on your CPU characters?
That bar to counter lucy's "The end" is it filled by damage or stun?
>>743410531>no Sara>no Andira >no Cidala>no Aster>no Kyouka collalooks like shit to me
>>743440878Stun
>>743440879seriously doubt monkey would ever appear outside the gacha, gaijin piggu couldn’t handle it
>>743440232I once lost a quest because we were doing an overkill SBA and one of the other tards died during it and ran out the critical bar
>>743427792Anon, those perks are for when YOU get afflicted.
>>743440934kek
I have no idea who does the japanese voice for Beatrix but she does an excellent job, i always smile when i have a Bea in my party just because of the voice
so it is possible to get 100% cap summons outside infinity?
>>743410531is PuriCon on EoS?
Ideally you want Stun with Damage cap right? what exactly is the easiest way to get those?
>>743441448Get a bucket of Stuns.Get a bucket of Damage Cap.Synthesis Gamble.
>>743441089Yes but it's extremely rare to the point that you shouldn't bother.>>743441448Synthesis.
>>743441524Does save scumming not work for those?
>>743441585it works but you have to start a fight to reset it
>>743441758So similar to the transmarvel stuff, gotcha
Having numbers over 100% on the dummy means you have to much dmg cap or too much attack?
>>743439689Dont, if you want to read the story and listen to the ost that didnt appear in relink sure but "playing" seriously?Quitting grub (gachashit) was 1 of my best decisions for enlightenment. It used to be like my 2nd job during GW. I kinda regret spending like 6 years of my life on it but oh well you cant turn back time. Nowadays the only gachashit I play is horsepussy
>>743441850Over 100% means not enough damage cap to support the amount of attack you have.
>>743441850bigger number than 100% = you need more damage caplower number than 100% = you need more attack
>>743439689I still read the events unless they are the homo knights shit.This whole new arc with underground races and demons is interesting.
>>743441936Uma dailies are way too fucking long. JP gachas are getting fucked by CN ones and dumb nips refuse to adapt.
>>743439985You build tank Bea or more offensive Bea
>>743442062That's crazy, every unlock is damage cap yet the number doesn't go down, it had me seriously doubting i read the text right.
>no lilith fight>no rolan fight
>>743442280I'd rather shove red hot coals in my eye sockets than read chink wordvomit.
>>743442280I play global semi casually and i can finish it in 5m roughly. What are you talking about?
>>743442337>astrals>good at fightingit's kind of their whole thing, being autistic nerds with zero social skills.
The Chaos++ versions of Bub and Lucy drop their summons too right? I wonder if fighting their Chaos versions would be faster than Infinity even if the drops are worse? I've beaten each of the Infinity once already.
>>743442280Wrong on both counts.
>>743442337Rolan's little scene in the main story where he gets to go ham and fly around with the rapier was cool. But I get why they are not making him playable I suppose.
>>743441548It's extremely rare in infinity as well, unless I'm just a huge lucklet.
>>743442434What about bubz and luci?
>>743442183to add to this, don't really fret over being below your damage cap, you'll eventually "grow into it" through weapons, mastery levels, etc. it's more important to keep your damage below your damage cap.Eventually you'll reach a point where trying to even dig up damage cap is difficult without getting rid of all your defensive traits and you'll be stuck in the 100's.
>>743442863Bubs had to be fitted with a primal core and had to take a dip into othernigger chaos matter to even be on the level. Lucilius never was an astral, he was a primal made with a core that had almost zero power output and had to do a headswap with the first supreme primarch.
>>743442863astrals are specialize in different categories, mostly in 3Bubz is the peak astral with physical powerLucilius is the peak astral with wisdom, he himself doesn't actually have combat power, he gains his current power after belial stiches his head on lucifer bodyThere's one more astral that peak with magic power, but he's gacha onlythis anon >>743443025 is mostly right except Lucilius is actually an astral
>>743442967Nah, my issue is that no matter how many damage cap things i unlock, i'm not getting any closer to 100% on the dummy. That left me wondering if i even understood the data right.
The game has almost no characters unironically.
>>743441143Soon.
>>743443072No, Lucilius is a botched clone of the speaker Helel who ended up without any power, but lots of knowledge. He never was an astral.
>>743443107It’s because damage cap is additive with itself, and there’s already so much from the base mastery tree, and one sigil, that each additional point of damage cap is going to affect the way the cap% number shows up on the dummy less and less.
>>743443259anon speaker is speakerastral is astralLucilius was created by the astral god by copying the speaker, he IS an astral
I got all 20 dark wee pincers, what do I need to do now to get the sigil? I already did the crab quests from the faggot in Folca, he doesn't give me any more, he only starts some dumb useless search.
>>743440383Its been a while but i dont think they gonna eos
this game is unplayable without stout heart you get flinched by a slight breeze
>>743443507do i need to get all regular pincers first before the dark ones appear? or just finish RE?
>>743443507There's a new crab quest NPC in Seedhollow.
I want a grand order boss or szoey character
>>743443686God fucking damnit, AI and guides are so fucking useless.Thanks anon.
>>743443963gotta wait for relink 2 to have the fights against M1 and 2, egypt gods, the balancefags, pandemonium and so on.
Is there a "one size fits all build" for AI characters?I dont feel like reading guides for all of them.
>have free 60GB>the update is 49GB>not enough free disk spaceHow much do I actually need?
Damn, it's easy to scale the player character health wise (unique sigils), but not the bots.They are dead when any boss does a major attack.Any advice? Should I skimp out on their damage and give them more health?Djeeta and Rosetta have a bunch of sigils improving dodge, and Katalina has a bunch of perfect guard skills and garrison + steady focus.
>>743444153120gb
>>743444153lol
>>743444298mine never get hit so I don't usually worry about it
still in chaos + that was the magna osts used right?
>>743444308>>743444313Do I still need 120GB even If I have the base game installed?
>>743444298Are you trying to do ER content with those stats? The beginning is designed around ~30-40k health.
>>743444298Bots only ever P.dodges.Give them nimble defense/onslaught and maybe improved dodge.
>>743444146You build them the same as player characters now, just don't give them Stout Heart or they'll facetank instead of dodging.Extra emphasis on Improved Dodge and Nimble Onslaught, bots are good at perfect dodging but won't consider when they're out of dodges.
>>743444556They do block but it's pretty much only when they can't dodge.
>>743444615WHAT
>>743445161YOU BUILD THEM THE SAME AS PLAYER CHARACTERS NOW, JUST DON'T GIVE THEM STOUT HEART OR THEY'LL FACETANK INSTEAD OF DODGING. EXTRA EMPHASIS ON IMPROVED DODGE AND NIMBLE ONSLAUGHT, BOTS ARE GOOD AT PERFECT DODGING BUT WON'T CONSIDER WHEN THEY'RE OUT OF DODGES.
Can you savescum the curios aswell as the other stuff or not?
>>743444358Mine do, plenty.Any of those cutscene attacks 1-3 are down.>>743444502No, I'm still in the epilogue.>>743444556I donl't know if I have enough Sigils for all 3, but I will check.
>>743444442yes
>>743445686Well, I guess it's time to delete Rebirth. I thought I was going to finish it one day but I didn't touch it for more than an year.
Can stout heart appear on + sigils or is the only way to get it to sacrifice a slot
>>743445536You can't, everything inside is available from Transmarvel too so doesn't really matter
>>743443679The former.
>>743446114Sacrifice a slot or get it on a summon
So what's actually happening when you invest beyond level 50? A message pops up saying more mastery nodes are available but I don't see anything new, I don't have any more points to spend and my character power isn't going up.
>>743446220It's over
>>743446263You get new nodes in the "old" mastery tree, they only appear after you do the mastery break. you can't "preview" them.
>>743440282Play them, get a sense of what's missing, solve with sigils.
Does the invulnerability from nimble defense and onslaught stack?
