https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftCvnEE6rfIYOU FUCKS BETTER SUPPORT THIS GAME SINCE YOU WANTED TURN BASED SO BAD
>>743415214i dunno isnt it just the monile game storylike i know they made an actual game around it but it's still weird
>>743415214I don't understand this autistic hateboner some of you have for HD2D.
>>743415214>gachaslop assetsHard fucking pass.
>>743415214>YOU FUCKS BETTER SUPPORT THIS GAME SINCE YOU WANTED TURN BASED SO BADThat's not how that works, SE. You have to also make a non-shit game.
>>743415214I already bought it but it’s low on my list. I’ll get around to it in 2030 or so
>2.5d pixelslopnah
>>743415214https://store.steampowered.com/app/3259780/FINAL_FANTASY_RESONANCE/
>>743415247Yeah, but adapted as a sp game.
>>743415310It sucks ass because it's not trying to look good. It's not an artistic or stylistic choice, its a shortcut to save money and is spiritually the same as making your game a gacha instead of making a good game. Which is funny, since this shit was also a failed gacha.
>>743415247more dead mobile games deserve asset reflips
>>743415479Dragalia Lost...
>>743415214Should I get it on PS5 or Switch 2?
>>743415310they always put way too much bloom
this game must be like 150mb why is it a gkc does square enix not want my money
>>743415214>another story about crystalsAnd FFfags call Persona creatively bankrupt.
>>743415214I'm interested, but $50 is too much for this shit.$30-40 would've been an appropriate price.
Why would I support this failed mobile trash turned into an attempt at a real game?
>>743415310>Make a couple of animation frames and then use shit like shaking and shaders for the rest instead of creating more unique sprites and call it progress>The pixel art, while good by itself, often clashes with very simple/poor 3D that 90% of the game is actually in>BLOOM BLOOM EVERYWHERE MORE BLOOOM FUCKSeriously, I'd be way more receptive if they just laid off the fucking bloom a bit
>>743415214If they mention:>Bahamut>Ifrit>Shiva>Garuda>an "evil" or "oppressive" religious order>crystals>fire, wind, water, earthI'm out
>>743415214I'm sorry, but I hate brave exvius or whatever its name is.
>>743416675>if they mention>(literally anything final fantasy related)lol
>>743415336You're not talking to SE, you're talking to a seamonkey who is eternally butthurt about SE not releasing gacha games in their sorry ass region>>743415470>its a shortcut to save moneybasic 3d models are cheaper than sprites retard
>>743415214>Incorporates 3rd-party DRM: Denuvo Anti-tamperPersona non grata.
>>743416379Because if you knew a single fucking thing about how corporate business works. A game has a set of expectations that they model based on presumptions in the market and early data.If this turn based FF game notably exceeds their internal model despite being a lower budget game overall. Then conclusively they would look at that and see that there is strong demand for a turn based style of FF game and would therefore look at making a bigger scale game to keep that gravy train going.But retards like you wouldn't understand cause and effect, so please sit it out and pass so I can continue to laugh at turn based UNC's still seething at Square like their old bitch who dumped them.
>>743415214I'm totally fine with HD2D and I'll probably play it day one
>>743415792>another story about crystalsThat's the entire point of FF you fucking idiot.>uhm why is this basketball game about basketball? Those devs are creatively bankruptSouth(-East) Asia is a blight on humanity
>>743416667The thing I can't deal with is the sharp hi-res fonts over the pixel graphics. MATCH YOUR UI TO THE FUCKING GAME.
>buying gacha slopnu-square faggots deserve their fate
>>743416903Oh, yeah, I hated that in FF Pixel Remasters. At least they later added an alternative font.
>>743416717Whats that?
>>743415214Exvius was my first gacha and the main menu theme is still in my head, will probably shed a tear playing this, id never thought to see it reimagined as an actual game
>>743416820Well guess I will have to just kill you then :)
>>743416820sameI don't even like HD2D but I like comfy 4 niggas in a row
>>743415214If it makes you happy, I pre-order the physical copy of it for the PS5.>>743415417>>743415470Are you always an ungrateful little shit that wants to stay mad forever?
the truest and realest FF fans finally get the turn based game they've been begging for decades, i'm sure it'll sell 8 million copies day one to show square that's what FF fans want!
>>743416667>The pixel art, while good by itself, often clashes with very simple/poor 3D that 90% of the game is actually inShit like this is why I can never take you larping zoomers seriously.
>>743416805>basic 3d models are cheaper than sprites retardthat's what that anon is saying broyou should see the prices pixel artists charge for their shit which some of it now is probably traced over AI anywayit's just not realistic to have a game with full pixel art anymore but if anyone could do something like that it'd be square penix
>>743416667>>BLOOM BLOOM EVERYWHERE MORE BLOOOM FUCKthe bloom isn't really the issue, it's the depth of field. Once i turned it off in The adventures of Elliot, the game looked good
>>743416667Literally the only point here that's valid is the 3rd one. The only reason H2D2 doesn't look good most of the time is cause of all the obnoxious overuse of effects. Without that they'd look amazing.
>>743417335I'm an ancient fag and I agree with him. Also with the anon mentioning the UI.
>IT EXISTS SO YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT ITI support good games, being disingenuous isn't going to win you any favors anon.
>>74341521460 bucks for a mobile game.
>>743415647It's 13gb, which isn't a lot either. What a piece of shit company.
>>743417602>I'm an ancient fagNo you aren't. JRPGs have done that since before you were born zoomer.
>>743415536Xbox
>2dhd>Crystalssquare and FF fucking sucks
>>743415792>another story about crystalsThere hasn't been a main series FF that doesn't involve the crystals or a crystal as either the central part of the plot or lore. The majority of the spinoffs involve them too. This is like being mad that they made a Dragon Quest with dragons or that your beloved Persona has demons.
>>74341521420 seconds in and I want the game to fail because of how fucking disingenuous that shit is being presented.
>>743415214>turn order UIshan’t be playing. I’m not a fucking retard who needs my hand held
>>743417335>retardHe is 100% correct though.
>>743417893>because of how fucking disingenuous that shit is being presented.Take your meds you schizophrenic man.
>>743417937>no argument>immediate fallacyConcession accepted.
>>743417923how else do you plan for when the boss smacks you 5 times in a rowOctopath would have been artificial difficulty if they didn't show you the turn order
>>743417770Sounds like you're the zoomer if you can't comprehend someone playing NES and SNES JRPGs.
>>743418103You've never played an NES or SNES JRPG
>>743418048sometimes you lose. that’s part of difficulty. turn based is already easy enough without knowing what the enemy is going to do
HD-2D makes me nostalgic as fuck for the PS1 era like FFT and Grandia where they were mixing the 2D with the 3D
>>743415214Here's my problem with this. I want to buy this game, but I just refuse to support SE.>pointless release of S2 version of FFX/X-2>pointless release of S2 version of Star Ocean 2>pointless release of S2 version of Octopath 1 and 2>you can't upgrade from S1 to S2, and you can't transfer save dataRemake and Rebirth are already on sale (65% and 40%), but they are trying to screw you with useless ports. I swear, they will release Resonance now and an upgraded version in less than 8 months.
>>743415214> Metrosexual urban shithead turns a nice burger joint into a pretentious hipster salad bar because he hates his parents, patriarchy, testosterone or whatever> He loses tons of business with the locals and he begrudgingly reverse course> Instead of doing it properly however, he finds an old moldy patty and only sprays it with water, though he really wish he could just spit on it instead> When he approaches your he doesn't even put it nicely on a table but tosses it like he throw a bone to a dog> When you look at his face you can see someone who wants you to fucking die because he saw you enjoying a french burger on the other side of the street rather than his pretentious salad.> He eagerly waits for you to leave in disgust because he just cant wait to say: "See! You never wanted this! You just want to antagonise me!". He's been practising this line for days waiting for this moment.> Other self-made eunuchs sitting at other tables (like OP) have the most obnoxious shit-eating grin and wait for your reaction.This is basically how it feels to be a FF fan nowadays.
>>743418175These games are designed with the turn order in mind. You would lose almost all of the time because interrupts are supposed to be part of the base strategy and you wouldn't properly know when to set one up. But of course you're another ADHD riddled mess that hasn't put more than 5 hours into any of these games past the tutorial stage to figure that out.
>>743418226The difference is the visual style between the sprites and 3D backgrounds was cohesive in older games. Modern HD2D looks like fucking dogshit.
>>743418316Both FFT and Grandia do not look cohesive. Even as a kid I thought the style was slapdash but it still had soul and I was happy that there was 3D at all.
>>743415214Imagine buying squenix shit in 2020+ lol
>>743415214I played from the start up to the third season, and the story is shit. It doesn't feel like Final Fantasy at all.
>>743418367You're objectively wrong. This is not a matter of opinion and the fact that you're unironically trying to push this shows how clueless you are.
I'll get it once it's on a 75% sale.
>>743418226There's also the reverse with old games have 2D backgrounds and 3D character models. I have no idea why retards are acting like JRPGs blending 2D and 3D assets is somehow a new thing.
>>743418419Anyone who has the use the word "objectively" to add validity to their opinion is just exposing that they can't actually defend their own stance with logic and reasoning.
>>743418478>retardIt has nothing to do with validity. You got called out for making a false statement. If you can't handle that then maybe you shouldn't say stupid shit. Pretty simple anon.
>>743418536I'm not that anon I'm just calling you out for being a retard that's too stupid to even defend his own position.
>>743418557>I'm not that anonThen nothing you say matters.
>>743415214Hd2d is aids, mobile games are cancer, mix them and you get this piece of shit
>>743418438Dousing them with modern filters and VFX that call to attention the fact these are just games simularcra and not fictional worlds to get immersed into is a new thing
>>743418595Yeah like you who needs to say "objectively" to make his opinion seem important.
>if i reiterate a point that was already dismantled it means i'm right!Concessions come so easily these days.
>>743418636Ok but the blend of 2D sprites and 3D assets and the obnoxious overuse of VFX and filters are 2 completely separate points of contention.
>>743418419>objectively wrongPlease provide the peer-reviewed papers that prove beyond shadow of a doubt that my opinion is wrong lmao
>>743416675>GarudaGaruda is in hardly anything! Garuda is in less games than Carbuncle!
>>743418669>your point was dismantled because I said soAn argument as stupid as you would expect from someone who thinks to say his opinion is objective. Life must be nice when you can just ignore reality. I envy your simple mindedness.
>>743418691>opinionI realize this may be difficult for you to understand but opinions are outside of the realm of objectivity.
>>743418743I'll give you points for at least being a funny troll
>>743418743lmao tell that to yourself.
>>743416815when did /v/ become filled with corporate bootlickers like this?
>>743415214I'm not buying this garbage. SE has made plenty of pixel turn-based games, and XVI was still action slop. Buying this will not making 17 turn-based. If anything E33's success would.
>>743416815You're just as retarded as Square-Enix.>>743420032welcome to summer /v/retards galore this season
>HURR DURR BOOTLICKER>HURR DURR SE>HURR DURRWhatever happened to having your own opinions retards?
>>743415214>pixel remasterwhat when wrong with SE? nomura? no new writers?
>>743420136Why are you such a passive aggressive pussy?
>>743415310Every single game with that artstyle looks the exact same.
>retards thinking SE will make the next mainline FF turn-based if this literal who pixelshit succeeds
>>743415310It looks good in Octopath, and that's it. It's stale now.
>>743420210I could absolutely see them making a similar system to E33 but with ATB.
>>743420210SE fanboys, especially in the FF sect, are a special breed of retards.
This looks hideous.
>figurative gacha feces recycled into a game>"but how do you know its shit?"smell, taste, appearance and reputation
>>743420210I mean if it exceeds SE's always ridiculous expectations wouldn't they be stupid not to?No, the real mindfuck is if FFXVII was sprite-based. Turn-based wouldn't be a shock.
>>743420236yes exactly they'll copy E33this garbage game OP is pushing will influence nothing - it's just throwaway mobileshit
>>743420275>questioning SE's stupidityc'mon now
>buy this shit for a chance of something goodhow about fuck off and just make something good
>>743415214I have it ordered alreadyCan't wait to see Rain flirt with Shiva voiced
>>743418226>duuuude it's like that thing from my childhood but it's like a completely shitty and butchered version of it, i love ityou faggots aren't real, stupid fucking cattle
>>743420230OT is literally one of the worst looking HD2D games. If you want an actually good example of a good looking HD2D game look at the SO2 remake.
>>743415214>50 dollaridoos for a repackaged gachanah
>>743420327this. fuck off.
>>743420384>remakeI shan't
>>743420491based
>>743420491>>743420498Retard
>>743415214I'll support it when it's on sale for $15 6 months after release.
with all of the games with absurdly bloated budgets, I welcome a company like Square Enix re-using assets to cut costs.
>>743420550only retards buy remakes
>>743416675this man is right, i don't understand now can anyone tolerate "crystals ifrit garuda".why are there even some garuda? i played ff7 there was no garuda. i played ff8, ff9 and 10, there was no garuda. fuck off, this is not even interesting monsterin 2000's Final Fantasy games was something new every time, and now every pixel shit is some parody on FF1. We don't even like ff1, nobody.
>>743420935Only contrarians with no actual standards refuse to buy remakes.
>>743415479Wish they would revive FF Record Keeper
>>743415214That looks like shit.
>>743415214so this game is a gacha turned to single player game a 'la octopath 0?
>>743421065Yeah
>>743415479Opera Omnia as a full single player game would be incredible.
>>743415214is Nishiki behind the soundtrack?
>>743415214I'm still not buying a gacha rehash with stagger.
>>743415214yes because we have to treat game devs as some devine entity which we have to bow down and make sacrifices to in order to please them, and not them being fags that are supposed to make games we want to buy
>>743420935kek>>743420986>talking about standards when you play soulless demakes
I would have supported it but Squeenix went full retard on game keys just to save $2
>>743415214>comments disabled>dislikes disabled it's like they know they suck and their games are absolute garbage no wonder pic related to is refereed to as FF but good
>>743421187>remakes are soulless on the basis of being remakes regardless of the actual qualityProving my point. If you are incapable of actually judging things on their own merits and need to run a simple binary check list cause you're too stupid to do anything else your opinion is worthless cause you have no logic or reason behind your thoughts. Just an NPC doing what people tell you. Only difference between you and some normalfag pre-ordering GTA6 is where you get your opinions from. Your both equally as brainless.
>>743415792thisfinal fantasy NEEDS TO GET RID OF "MUH CRYSTALS " bullshit storymake it back about how summons are a sidething, not the big gods that rule everythingsee ff 7 and 8
>>743415214Never liked the look of 2DHD, I guess I must be the only one that ever felt this way.
>>743415214litteraly eyuden chronicle lmaoThat new 2D is so worthless after you played 1 of them (so nothing new in the 4 nigga in a row genre)
>>743421268remakes are nothing but easy cashgrabsshut the fuck up and kill yourself faggot
>>743421268cringe>>743421479based
>>743421479>>743421492Pathetic samefagging loser.
>but you said you wanted a new Bomberman game, what's the problem?>ugh you just don't know what you want and will complain about everything!>oh you want a "classic" Bomberman game? well if you buy this one, maybe you'll get it ;)
>>743421529cry harder retarded newfag
only a squeer-unix cunt would defend remakes
>>743421603lmao
>>743421605Ironically only a newfag would actually think this is proof.
>>743421636fuck off retardgo play a shitty remake like the zoomer you are
>>743421650lmao seethe
>>743421479yeah the only point is if the game is remake after like 3 year and they just call the dev back to work on news update (Hundred knight dungeon explorer endgame).But that not really a remake so yeah, all remake are shit
>>743415214>THE EVOLUTION OF PIXEL ART*>as long as you've played nothing but final fantasy in your life*
>>743415214>ex-gacha shitNo
>>743416815Reminder that Adventures of Elliot was a megaflop. So there's no evidence that action games sell way better than turn based games, or that Final Fantasy can sell more as an action game.
>>743415214i just want a good game. besides, the majority of FFs aren't even turn based. The only ones that are are 1,2,3 and 10
>>743415214Keep your gacha, Chinpira
>>743421716>Red coloured link flopsImagune muh shokkk
>>743420941>i played ff7 there was no garuda. i played ff8, ff9 and 10, there was no garudaThere was a garuda enemy in FF7, 9 and 10.
>>743421605It's so easy to fake these pics that I don't understand why people use them as proof. See pic related.Deleting any of these (You) is easy as well. I made this in Paint.
>>743420935>Someone using the SO2 remake as an example of bad remakes>It does literally everything right, even the UI and using the original sprites instead of 2DHD pixelated messesI actually cannot believe I share a board with people this stupid. If there was ever a remake that did things well, it's SO2.
>>743421970> I made this in Paint.Kek now we found the retard
>>743422062>original spritesIt looks horrible with the 3d hd background.
>>743421716>Put in a sidekick that NEVER stops talking>The option to tone it down seemingly does nothing in the demo>Everyone is voice acted like it's Dora the explorer>Writing is also Nickjr tier>OMG HOW CAN SHE FLOP?!
>summer /v/ defending remakesters
AI > SE
>>743422225>2026/v/ is full of indians newfriend
>>743415310it looks like fucking dogshit
>>743415214nah this looks like low effort garbage
>>743418438PS1 games are 20+ years old at this point. For your average zoomer it is new. Can you shitpost any harder? If you are honestly arguing that OG DQ7 or Xenogears look the same and/or as the today's HD2D games you're either a retard, a faggot with no taste, or both
>>743415214This is a really weird test to see if there's actually an audience for turn-based and old-style FFs.I appreciate the effort, but there's no way this is going to do all that well. It's mostly just a very vocal minority who talks about how FF needs to go back to TB but never shows up when Square does TB.
>>743422387That's literally my point though. Anyone saying it is new is a zoomer. Are you genuinely stupid?
>>743422398the fact they need a "test" shows just how out of touch Squeenix is
>>743422419I'm arguing that nothing is really "new" but within the context of the market, it is new for the kind of people that are buying games these days. Newsflash the majority of power purchasing gamers aren't, now, 50+ year old boomers who originally bought PS1 games . You're the retard if you had any modicum of reading comprehension
>>743422424Almost every game company will test old IPs or old styles before fully committing with a bigger budget project. Capcom and Konami has done it a lot testing with rereleases/collections and ports before committing to new games in given IPs.
>>743422251Godspeed
>>743422601So you're a zoomer if you don't like 3D/2D blends. Got it.
>>743422225must consoom
>>743422251I'd say soulless AI slop, but FF8 was soulless to begin with
>>743416675Good, then get out. I fucking hate secondaries so bad.
>>743422692FFXVII should already be decently underway at this point. I know game dev takes longer than it should these days, but especially with SE's whole reboot phase thing wrapping up soon it would surprise me if we don't get it by 2029. Either way, I don't think Resonance's performance will have a profound effect on whatever the fuck XVII is at this point.it's gonna be a TPS or some shit anyway
>>743415214looks good, but this is like, 15 years too late.
>>743422251SELPHIE A CUTE
>>743423113cute butt
>>743423076Well no, it won't have any affect over 17. But testing audience tastes for the future.
never played ff beforeis this a good entry point?i tried ff14 cause it was free but didnt like it
>>743423374>is this a good entry point?How would anyone know? It's not out.Unless one of you is a time traveler and haven't told us
>>743415214wh...why do they think it's the PIXEL ART people want? That's the most braindead, surface level analysis ever. People don't want fucking pixel art, they just don't care if it IS pixel art. Because visual fidelity is a secondary concern.People want a cohesive art style, they want a properly told story, they want engaging strategic gameplay. The reason old JRPGS worked so well was the PACING which allowed characterization to be parceled out over the course of a long, epic (in the literary sense) narrative. Pacing is where most of these games completely fall apart. The characters and world need room to breathe. You can't hurry from plot point to plot point, set piece to set piece. And that SCALE is why it's incredibly hard to do a game in high visual fidelity because of the associated costs, and why 'retro style' is useful. Old Style pixel art was also just vague enough to allow people to fill in the gaps mentally. Characters today get overdesigned with greebles or look like the most bog standard basic bitch pastiche possible without hitting the sweet spot in between.Pixel art is not a selling point. Pixel art is a tool, that allows your art team to go easy on details, and allows you to produce more content cheaper. HD2D completely defeats the fucking purpose.
>>743421287I know this is bait but FF7 revolves exclusibly arround crystals: materia are the crystals in FF7.Only FF8 and 10 do not revolve arround any kind of crystal or stone or cristalyzed.
>>743423476they make this even more explicit in Rebirth. Materia is crystalized life stream.
>>743415214>Finally get turn based FF again>Lazy ass HD2D shitPost that bart simpson picture
>>743423374Pick any SNES FF, from there pick any you'd like from I - IX. X is also fine as honorary FF.
>>743415214>want turn-based FF>get 2D pixel mobile-remakeWOOOOW I SHOULD BE SO GRATEFUL
>>743423514there never was any doubt in the original.
>>743423471It genuinely baffles me that people don't mention pacing more often when it comes to SE shit. The FF7 remakes have the worst pacing of any shit I've ever played in my life.
I'm not giving SE any more of my money, simple as that. They can take their half baked ai pixel art and shove it up their ass. The only thing that can save them, is getting the kyoani treatment.
>>743423471Because 99% of the assets this game has are being taken directly from the old Gacha Brave Exivus and put through a filter to make them HD2D.The one thing Brave Exivus was known for after it's narrative went off the deepend by the end of season 2 was it's Pixel Art within the Gacha scene.And even then, it was hit or miss compared to some indie games trying to do pixel shit at the time.
>>743421603kek
>>743423729Honestly i'm playing them right now, and I feel like the pacing is good? Remake it's a bit awkward and stretched out, but that's because they do the asnine thing of trying to stretch all of Midgar into an entire game (and still manage to make storming the Shinra building feel less eventful, somehow).Rebirth seems to be much better arranged, and knows when to let you dawdle and pad, when when to shuttle you. Some of the side content is eye rolly and some of the characters are cringe, but it's not too bad.
>>743423476The spheres are the crystals of the FFX world, they just aren't considered something mystical by its inhabitants but are basically everywhere in the game worldThe "Sphere Grid" is even how the characters power up
>>743423245unf
>>743415214I'm interested in the game so far, but so help me, if there's even a mention of gacha in the game then I'll do everything in my power to make sure no one else buys it. Sick of gacha ruining games.
>>743423245Maybe Nomura was right about calling Squall Leon in Kingdom Hearts..
>>743423925>and I feel like the pacing is good?You might actually be retarded then. There's a difference between a game having "room to breathe" in it's pacing and having literally every single scene, every single gameplay section, every single bit of side content side content, every single transitional animation stretched out as much as humanly possible like it's fucking Red Dead Redemption 2. Rebirth is even worse cause it has zero excuse for how abysmal the pacing is. I've never played a game that is as guilty of dragging everything out unnecessarily as FF7 Rebirth.
>>743415214Why in the fuck would I buy this garbage just for a sliver of a chance SE makes something decent, when they haven't made a decent game since FFX?
>>743424117kek
>>743424204Well, i'm only as far as Costa Del Sol, so maybe it gets worse.
>>743424209just shut up and consoom product
>>743423926But it has no relevance in the story at all, hell you can even finish ffx without using a single sphere (I did it witha friend a couple years ago), in all other cases the crystals are core to the story and in the best cases story and gameplay (ff6, 7 and 9)
>>743424209Their best game (The last remnant) was made after FFX though
>>743424497not even the most wild contrarians pretend to call the last remnant the best
>>743424497the last remnant was okay at bestdropped it when best girl died and was replaced by a downgraded version
>>743424529It's the JRPG for people that hate JRPGs.
>>743415214I quit my job today, my career even. when my co workers asked why, I looked them right in the eyes and said i refuse to contribute to squeenix unless it starts providing me with unlimited, convenient access to mainline turn based Final Fantasy.I am never buying another FF in my life until I wake up one morning and there is a mainline, high budget (no 2dhd) turn based(no action) fresh new final fantasy on my doorstep with blue eyes and an intact turn system that has never had actions or counters and wants to have my x presses. She must also have no nostalgia bait, has never been out of japan, and has a good relationship with both the devs, who are themselves still playing and very much in love with no history of infidelity on the mothers side. Until then I will spend my time making as much sqeeunix bait threads as humanly possible, making deep fake porn of cloud, reading 4chan, and refusing to pay anything squeenix related. every time someone criticises my decision, I will donate $50 to Atlus, I will also from here onwards spend an inordinate amount of time harrassing devs who have decided to cater to people who dont play video game on social media, as well as people who call themselves MMO gamers or wittingly buy remakes. Furthermore, I will be cutting remasters out of my life until said demands are met. this is the future the aeons chose, get out of my way you fat crystal
>>743424497tlr was alrightnothing specialgod tier music tho
>>743415310the pixel art generally sucks. low res pixels with very little animation
>>743423471Ultimately you are right, pixel art isn't a selling point for the masses, it is one for some. Pixel art alone is not sufficient, see timespinners 1 or code cross. The propaganda in these games cripple sales.
>>743423925What the other anon says. 7r is widely acknowledged to have abysmal pacing.
>>743424423It's bad from the first minute. Cloud's obnoxiously slow walking animations, the shitty climbing, shimmying, ducking under things, opening doors. There's so many things already that are just unnecessarily slow and long from the 1st moment you start playing and it makes no sense when you have cutscenes of Cloud jumping the height of buildings makes the tone of the game completely fall apart cause there's literally zero attempt at creating any logical consistency.
It amuses me that despite this game's entire plot being out for a decade, no one bothers spoiling it in these threads.
>>743424732>>743423925I feel that if you play the mains tory directly without doing side content they would flow greatly, which in on itself is an abysmal desing flaw.If there was not a grocery list of all the idequest and events and enemies you can encounter each zone, I think players would feel commpelled to explore at their own pace without that "push" or "obligation" to mark all the items in the list before proceeding, and the pace would feel way more natural.tdlr: Chadley groceries lists are to blame for the pcing issues in rebirth.
>>743415214Is this the one where you summon characters from other final fantasy games as stands? can I summon Sadu
>>743425036Needing to avoid side content in a FF game is a sin in it's own right. Old games had side content fit the flow of the main game so even doing 100% of the game's content felt right. Honestly I think the issue is how big the dev team is, the side content and main story content was probably designed by completely separate people which would explain why there's zero flow between them and the pacing of the main game only works if you do nothing else.
Well I wanted a NEW turn based FF, yeah.Not a rehash of mobile slop that did so poorly they had to shut it down.They're literally using the worst example they can find of an awful story no one enjoyed and will proceed to tell us "no one wants turn based" after it launches and flops.
>>743416667/threadThe bloom in particular is just absolutely hideous.I don't understand how someone can sit down and LARP that it's acceptable.
>>743415214No one wanted this.
>>743425356>mobile slop that did so poorly they had to shut it down.It was an always online game so it was always going to be shut down.
>>743425386why is this literal who being spammed lately?
>>743425519I mean ff11 is still going 20 years later, sure seems like if it's not still up it failed.
>>743415214not buying gacha slop
>>743425356I'm for shitting on Square Enix games, especially in the gacha department as much as the next guy. But Brave Exivus was one of the few mobile slop they put out that lasted a while. 8 years globally, 10 years JP. Most Square slop dies within 2-3 years.
>>743415310probably because its fucking ugly.
>>743425195another glaring case for this was scarlet nexus, what a mess of side content that game had.
>>743421603/thread
>>743421603exactlyfuck OP
>>743423471Because those are way too fucking expensive. Even Persona needed 10 years and it has just hubs and anime graphics. If you see expedition sequels it will be like every 5 years minimum.
>>743425195>Needing to avoid side content in a FF game is a sin in it's own right. Old games had side content fit the flow of the main game so even doing 100% of the game's content felt right.Well, doing allthe forst condor battles in ff7 broke the pace like nothing I've ever seen though.Still not having the grocery list makes encounting things to do more natural, even if going for 100% would be the same slog in the end. I think that each area having it's own gimmick didn't help either, it was a cheap way to differentiate the chocobos.
>>743425795>Well, doing allthe forst condor battles in ff7 broke the pace like nothing I've ever seen though.which is why noone ever does it
>>743415214$70 for some top down 2D gameHow is this even appropriate? FF6 was $70, the pricing is all fucked up for these games, this should be $40 max
Why does MC look like Shulk?
>>743425905its 50 bucks in the US on steam on my end
>>743415310>70$>low effort>ugly fucking UI and menus that clash with the pixel artstyle>cheap animations and 0 immersion>very limited in gameplay design due to the nature of the 2D and graphical style which means no vehicles, mini games, verticality, exploration>again it's $70
>>743425605The point is that it shut down. It stopped selling, people stopped liking it and playing it, why would they try to make a full game out of something people STOPPED playing? lmao.It's like saying "hey we heard you were looking for a new car, here's an old clunker we dug out of a junkyard that someone pissed shit and did heroin in, it's the same thing, brand new just for you!"
>>743416675This is like saying you're out if you see a Chocobo or Moogles
>>743426031They shut it down because the gacha became notoriously bad and the writing went off the wall.And guess what they're selling? The game with the gacha ripped out and the season 1 story which what made people fans of it and helped it last 10 years and even get it's own spin-off.
>>743418226this look like 30x better shill
This looks like dreadful mobile slop
>>743415310I don't hate the concept of high quality 2D sprites on a 3D world, but it's almost always done poorly. Usually it's ugly pixel art tossed in a world that looks unfitting, with tons of post processing effects to try to distract you
>>743426031This is adapting only the first main story though. This is way earlier than when it started falling off.
>>743426094So, they're selling a game that flopped so bad it doesn't exist anymore and had it's writing go off the wall, but with even LESS content because they removed it.got it.
it looks more like an octopath reskin, not final fantasy
>>743418367the pixelated characters in grandia are 3D but low poly and are completely 3D in gameplay and have 3D animations that fit the game, these 2DHD games are pixel characters ripped from a snes game and plopped into some xbox 360 game era environments, it looks fucking awful, shut the fuck up retard
>>743421869The self-proclaimed turn-based final fantasy fans of /v/ don't play the games they say they love.
people are calling this game an asset flip but the game like entirely new. If you havent played FFBE then you wouldnt know it looked like crap
>>743426202all of BE is over 150 hours long
>>743426202no retard, season 1 is the only good one. season 2 has some cool moments but its nonsense
>>743426348why does a fucking final fantasy game need seasons? You're just proving my point, who wants this fucking shit?
>>743425529Because the average /v/jeet cannot argue for himself so he hides behind opinions of e-celebs and xitter troons that align with his own.
>>743415214Huh? Chinese and French have already replaced final fantasy, we don't need it anymoreSquare enix should not be supported and should die
I don't like Remakes. I'm going to play the original one.
>>743426423>ChineseGachaslop are not games, Zhang.
>>743426423what did china do
>>743426368Are you truly struggling to understand? Brave Exivus was a gacha. It's first story arc/season was praised in Japan and led to the game getting more support. As time went on, Brave Exivus suffered the thing all Square Enix games and especially their gacha's did. Piss poor writing and increasingly worse gacha monitization.So after 10 years, the game finally shuts down because the story has been told and Square thinks they've gotten all the money they can out of it when the new CEO comes in and tells them to gut a lot of their mobile gaming division.What happens next? They take what they can from the game, turn it into a HD-2D game focused on the first season to capitalize on the nostalgia some westerners and the japanese certainly have on the original story arc/season the game was praised for 12 years ago.
>>743415214I hate that it's just a mobile asset reflip turned into a standalone single player JRPG. Did Square Enix look at the mobile game and think? Yeah, we can make something with this, but what if we make it sharper and more 2.5 HD? You really have to appreciate the art style, and I never cared for it. They're really trying to appeal to people from the late 80's and 90's, like perhaps the nostalgia will tempt them to buy it because it's pixels and sprites but it's more "modernized" so men in their late 30's and early 40's will want to play it, and also hipsters.
>>743416805That's his point you god damn retard. They want to make a 2D game but HD sprite work is very time consuming and expensive, so they cut corners by not making the world 2D, make the sprites low quality and pass them off as retro, and blind you with so many processing effects and camera shaking so you don't notice how ugly everything is.
>>743426837>and blind you with so many processing effects and camera shaking so you don't notice how ugly everything is.That's literally false though cause every HD2D game looks way better when they remove the dumb effects.
>>743424813>>743425036>the shitty climbing, shimmying, ducking under thingsyeah the open world navigation is pretty ass, and Chadley is by far the most annoying character, outstripping even Yuffie. That said for OW slop, it's not the worst OW slop, and at least everything has some semblance of a narrative tied to it.
>>743426934The world exploring itself is fine it's literally just how the game feels to control that bothers me. You move lightning quick in combat but outside of it Cloud becomes geriatric and can barely move.
>stagger barFUCK YOUUUUUUUUU
>>743426983my problem is how you get stuck on everything and the slowness of climbing. It's particularly egregious because you know they can do it better - Yuffie climbs shit seamlessly in INTERMISSION.
>>743415214The Sonic Mania of Final Fantasy Who gives a fuck what others say, I’m excited for this and I’ve never played a Final Fantasy past 10.
>>743427185>The Sonic Mania of Final Fantasythat was FF4 TAY
>>743415214>Incorporates 3rd-party DRM: Denuvo Anti-tamperI'm not using hypervisor bypass tho play. See you 6 months after release.
>>743415310its fine for reusing assets or whatever, but I'd genuinely prefer if it looked like the mana remakes or an atelier game or even falcom games. the nostalgia pandery aspect of it turns me off
>>743415310At this point it’s extremely forced, I’m not seeing this hate anywhere else except here because of course /v/ hates everything.
>>743427246more like the sonic 4 LMAOnow that i think about it TAY does have a number of paralels to sonic 4 in the worst ways possible
>>743427185feels more like the Sonic Superstars
>>743415214This shit is $70 while expedition 33 was $50, that elliot game was also $70, the suits at square enix are fucked in the head
>>743418438nobody is saying its a new thing they are saying this modern attempt is done badly
>>743415214It has my wife in it, of course I will buy it.
>>743427305I liked Rebirth outside of my latent dislike of remakes. I kept thinking to myself while playing, "man, imagine how much more awesome this would be if it was a new final fantasy and not just 7 again"
>singleplayer gachaslop for $50lmao fuck no nigga and even if i did want turn-based Squaresoft has NEVER balanced one correctly, let alone even had RPG elements worth a damn. Final Fantasy is closer to a VN than a video game.Delete this thread and then your life.
>>743425884which is exactly my point to counter >Old games had side content fit the flow of the main game so even doing 100% of the game's content felt right.
>>743417893Okay Grandpa time to slowly walk you to your bed
>>743418058Name of this chick?>>743418226Breath of Fire on PlayStation also came to mind
>>743425036Certainly is.>side questsWhere designed by a different team so they feel tacked on.
>>743418380Super Mario RPG Remake! :)
>>743416815If it succeeds they'll just continue to shit out more eye bleeding 2DHD games. They don't make big budget turnbased games because they don't want to, not because they think the market doesn't want it.
>>743422251Lemme take a Selphie!
>>743423076Depending on how good enough Resonance turns out I might consider a true FFXVII.I mean I consider Sonic Advance the true Sonic 4.
>>743423471>they want engaging strategic gameplayDoesn't apply ro jrpgs lmao
>>743428418JRPG's absolutely exist in moment to moment strategic thinking. It's just that strategy is usually pretty braindead or surmountable via grinding, but this was always by design.
>>743428273This implies FFXV and XVI are their true selves at face value or you've had other true FFs for a while. Hit me anon.
>>743418438The older games blended 2D and 3D well. The new ones throw low quality sprites attempting to mimic 16-bit games on 3D backdrops using a different stylistic look. It looks bad, and they know it looks bad because they blind you with shit like bloom
>>743415214>love turn-based jrpgs>hate HD-2D slop>most modern turn-based jrpgs are HD-2D slopKill me pete.
>>743423245Zell looks badass too for a Chicken Wuss!
>>743423076>>743422692>>743422424>>743422398you guys are misreading the trend: this is part of the degachification market strategy that SE and WFS have started.Square will likely do offline ports of the Nier gacha, KHX/UX/DR and possibly the SaGa mobages.WoTV is guaranteed as well.Have the whales pay you to make individual sprites then flip it into a standalone indie-ish game at EOS.
>>743424627TLR was great and that screencap is fucking wrong. Grinding is 100% fine in TLR, just focus on chaining big enemies so you get more attacks/battle so your stat and skill proficiencies increase.Ironically you should always reduce your offensive stats via formations and shitty weapons for Rush because that way you end with way more chances to for stat/skill exp spark.
>>743423524>Retards somehow trying to treat this as a Monkey’s Paw meanwhile there are better examples.
>>743425908I always thought Shulk looked like Tidus
OH MY SCIENCECLOUD AND SQUALL AND ZIDANE I SURE LOVE CROSSOVERSLOP WOWMORE OF MY FAVORITE CHARACTERS ALL IN THE SAME GAMETOGETHERLIKE AN UKRAISRAEL DUMBLEDORE ARMY AGAINST THE EVIL DRUMPFTIN EMPIRE
>>743429118>heh you see anon worse things have happened so clearly there's nothing wrong with this
>>743415214>Gachasloppy secondsNo thanks.
>>743415214Preordered the deluxe edition. I am hyped to fuck.
>>743429204They're just ghosts anon, calm down. Cloud doesn't have a single word to say in this story.
>>743427365Crystal Chronicles or WoFF look more comparable to Sonic Superstars.
>>743416675>FF should just be tweens in designer clothing driving cars and doing dbz shit forever
>>743427831nigga fina
Why is /v/ so particularity aggressive about this game? I swear every thread about it that appears opens with the OP being very aggressive.
>>743415214>lazy gachacrap with squeenix’s usual “here’s some characters from when we were good”Maybe they should try and make a good game and not use their history as a crutch
>>743421716>€70goodfuck them
>>743420210The three Octopath games are already on their way to outperforming the FF7 trilogy and probably cost like 1/20th as much to makeA game that actually has FF in the title doing similarly is probably going to make their fat retards on the board take notice
>>743421716I liked the demo, it felt like offbrand Ys/Zelda but I'm not paying $60 for it.
>>743415214Why does "HD 2D" mean low-res sprites again
>>743429413Crystal Chronicles isn't a crossover it is entirely stand alone
>>743415214>WHAT IF FF HAD CONTINUED TO PUSH THE LIMITS OF PIXEL GRAPHICS?>shows 3d rendered backgrounds, some default flameFX with a pixel filter, and some honestly quite ugly sprites - that you can hardly see because they are constantly slathered in particle effects and bloom. i'm probably going to buy and enjoy this game, but i found that very funny.
>>743429485>why are people sick of how shit modern Square Enix is
>>743429873>and some honestly quite ugly spritesYou're talking bullshit. Brave Exvius's spritework is gorgeous.I understand the overwhelming need to talk shit, but let's not lie outright.
>>743415310I’m not opposed to sprite artists continuing to get work because of the style; they’re just continually let down by how staggeringly bad the 3D camera direction is by comparison. Look at how extreme it is just inside the trailer!
>>743421026Its still alive in JP
>>7434233746 is a good entry point for having a great cast and story, and being super easy. It's not hard to hit the damage cap every round at the end and end the game with no challenge.4 is another good entry point because it's short (less than 15 hours) and is simple, but some bosses are like puzzles where you could brute force them with a lot of difficulty, but using certain spell effects like reflect or stop are super beneficial. There are difficult spikes in dungeons where spell effects are really useful too7 is the most popular but I honestly haven't played it since I was a kid so I couldn't tell you for sure. Materia was cool but I can see it being annoying nowadays. Maybe I'll replay it since none of the games I played as a kid are as long as I remember.
>>743415214>A classic tale of Christimas???
>>743424437>>743423926>>743423476The aeons are literally people encased in crystal that are summoned from their sleep in a form that parallels fiends, spheres are a similar biproduct of how the world works, being outright crystalized memories
>>743416675>BahamutYes and he's probably the most important summon>IfritYes>ShivaYes >GarudaNot in season 1, that's season 4.>An evil or oppressive religious order.Vaguely remembering, but I don't think that's a thing in season 1, more War of the Visions the spinoff.>CrystalsThis shit's classic FF inspired so they're in and the main plot focus>fire, wind, water earthyes.
>>743423245would a nunchuk train girl
>>743423476In VIII, Lunatic Pandora is supposed to parallel the crystal tower from FF3. Pretty sure sorceresses are also sealed with crystals
>>743423476FFVIII had the Crystal Pillar as a plot device. You might remember it better if I call it Lunatic Pandora?
>>743415214I think giving people the option of gacha leftovers is a great way to sabotage turn based interest.Leave it to square enix. Fucking morons.
>>743428617Mistwalker games?
>>743430389considering the legacy of the franchise is resting on two fucking MMOs at this point an adaptation of a mobile game is nothing, especially compared to how its been done for KH
>>743430023>(less than 15 hours)I know I take too long with vidya but is it really that short? Even going by a savefile from my younger days where I meandered less I was still at 16+ hours by the Sealed Cave.
>>743415310100% some newfag just picked a random topic to be le epic hater for.That said I am not buying mobile shit for more than 5 bucks.
>>743430505Based.
>>743429342>characters are just empty, corporate shellswow how meta
>>743424437>But it has no relevance in the story at allfiltered
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/final-fantasy-resonance-switch-2/Game file size (estimated)Nintendo Switch: 8.8 GBNintendo Switch 2: 12.7 GBHow does this make any sense? It's pixel art sprites yet Switch 2 is much larger
>>743422062So ugly visuals is doing something right
>>743429204Calm down tendie
>>743423476FFVIII: Lunatic PandoraFFX: Spheres are the crystals >>743424437>But it has no relevance in the story at all,Fayth are incased in crystal. Everything from the big ass mountain of Fayth corpses to all the Fayth for the Aeons in each temple. The spheres themselves (which may or may not be the same material, just in sphere shape) are the source of power in FFX's world and how normal inhabitants can get stronger. We can POSSIBLY extrapolate that they're absorbed into the body like how they were doing with Materia in FFVII: Advent Children, but it doesn't matter if they are or they aren't. Lastly, they house memories. It's how you're able to see Jecht's backtory. They are a not central to the story, but the "crystal" in this case, just like FFVIII is central to the lore.
>>743415214why does this shit have denuvo?
>>743415214lol, i don't buy garbage gachaslop. There's a reason why this game failed and shut down. It's shit. Nobody wants to play this shit.
>>743415214I dont like the "stands" bullshit, just use new characters
>>743432398>There's a reason why this game failed and shut downAnon Brave Exvius chugged along for 10 years, 8 of which were highly successful.The "reason" that it failed and shut down was because they completely ran out of meaningful content and the writing quality fell off a cliff.
>>743432042it's not just on 'tendo
>>743425036Checklists are a blight of modern gaming in general, but no one is courageous enough to get rid of them. The industry has trained people to treat them as a necessary feature with achievement bullshit.
>>743415324retard
>>743415214>a classic tale of Christmaswait... what?
>>743415214remember when they did a trailer of a fake stand alone brave exvius game for april fool? everybody was excited thinking it was real. How fucking tone deaf but better late than never i guess
This feels really lame.
>>743415214>pixelI'm not supporting low effort garbage. Hell, I'm not supporting square at all. The day they go under will be a happy day
>>743429982yeah the game got carried hard by its gorgeous sprite work (and banger music)
>>743418290Good morning sir
>>743432814>they completely ran out of meaningful content and the writing quality fell off a cliff.I quit early in S3 since the combo of Fina being a boring as fuck protagonist + 7.5 star characters were the breaking point for me. What was S3 onwards even about story-wise? S2 already got fucking terrible towards the end.
>>743434118>S2 already got fucking terrible towards the end.it was terrible from the very beginning when they brought back the veritas to life out of nowhere even though they had their conclusion in S1
>>743433706I've played porn RPGm games that look better.
>>743430143most of ff8 for me was trying to upskirt her as a young teenage lad
>>743433706laughably bad
>>743421603It is funny that grown adults are expected to fall for this kind of gaslighting, or think others can't see right through it
>>743415792The premise of one is copy/pasted in every crappy anime, harem and Visual Novel, and the other isn't. Cope.
>>743415214I'll pay 30€ max
>>743421287You're retarded and a larper
>>743415470I like the style of it>shortcut to save moneySo? When has budget correlated with game quality?
>>743434561yeah, philistines think like you
>>743418268Do you need those upgraded versions?Do any of the changes made drastically change any of the games?Are any of the changes large enough to warrant a new play?If you said Yes to all of those or any of those you're a faggot
>>743415214This thread itself just proves how negatively biased /v/ is towards FF.
>>743415214This thread itself just proves how positively based /v/ is towards FF.
>mobile asset flip>fire emblem engage ass "summon Cloud™ from That One Game™"I've been buying Bravely Default and Octopath and Dragon Quest. Not my fault Square is retarded.
>>743437372cmnk ody gives a fuck about FF anymore - and rightfully so >>743437483based
>>743437372It's just not fair. If this was a turn based 2.5D game based on a Last of Us gacha, you know /v/ would all be loving it. Name ANY other IP and everyone here would love it. But because it's FF there are people who are criticizing it. Wouldn't happen with any other IP.
>>743415214>YOU FUCKS BETTER SUPPORT THIS GAME SINCE YOU WANTED TURN BASED SO BADNo. It's a repurposed gacha and lots of it is still in the game. Other characters from past games = cancer. Make a completely original game with all original characters with no "multiverse" or shit like that. That's what I want. I love them, but I don't want to recruit Tidus and Terra. They belong in their own games.Also do people seriously think this "HD 2D" shit looks good?
>>743437690lmao
>>743437807>Also do people seriously think this "HD 2D" shit looks good?I could entertain this idea that maybe it doesnt look good but then people think metaphor looked good and that 3d anime style is also good, so...
>>743437807holy fuck this looks like shit
>>743421603Nail on head
>>743437896>Metaphor out of nowhereWhat.
>>743415479This. We need more Megaman X Dive Offlines in the world.
>>743421603It's a good thing people need to make up scenarios like this to prove OP wrong. It just makes OP look right.
>>743415214>HD2DI sleep
>>743415439right unironically looks better
>>743438045you are mad your gaslighting won't work. too bad.
>>743438045neck yourself OP
>>74341772420 bucks in the 90s is like 50 bucks today if you account for inflation
>>743438112It's not gaslighting at all. You people beg for turn based combat, but then when it comes out you need AAA graphics, except you hate AAA and you just want AA games low budget. In reality, you dont even know what the fuck do you want. >b-b-b-but exp33!Exp33 is unreal engine 5 slop. If FFXVII was UE5 slop (as you have criticized FF7 remake for being UE4 slop) you wouldnt be praising it. If FFXVII was Exp33-like, then you would also criticize it for just copying another game and not being original. If they make an original game, then you would complain it is trying to surbvert your expectations and not being classic or tame enough like Dragon quest. See how negatively biased you are?
>>743421603FF resonance is not what this pic is showing. Are you retarded or what?
>>743415310Only the DQ ones look good since they're basically an evolution on the DQ7/DS style. Only downside is the inability to rotate the camera in towns.
>>743415310The only reason people here "hate it" is because it is SE developing it.
>>743415310They are mad at effects that can be turned off in the engine settings
>>743438603Not applicable to consoles which these games are made for, and I shouldn't have to jump through hoops to fix the retarded dev's decisions either.
>>743438603It's easy to do on PC, sure, and I do it. But at this point I just get annoyed that Square just apparently wants these games to look like blurry bloom shit so I'll wait for deep sales from now on if the games otherwise seem interesting. Editing ini-files takes away precious seconds I could spend jacking it to Ayane and Kasumi.
Gachafags, how's the story?
>>743438369go back to plebbit you insufferable faggot
>>743426263The characters in Grandia are sprites. Wtf are you talking about?
>>743415310I don't hate it, Octopath Traveler was such a dogshit game it left a sour taste in my mouth but Triangle Strategy on the other hand was pretty good
le oldschool half assed shit I mean indies did it first so its cool to monopolize
>>743438721Developers don't allow you to disable motion blur on consoles either, so everyone is retarded by your metric
>>743415214I didn't want the shitty mobage then and I don't want it now either
>>743415214Ah yes, "pixel art".
>>743415214>brave exvius cringeshan't be buying
>>743440041kek aint no way broaint no fuckin way
>>743433706Square always use these ugly generic royalty free system fonts with horribly clashing assets now. It just looks inherently cheap.
>>743420935what the fuck was his problem
>>743435761You don't understand my point. Those versions are useless. Pointless. And honestly, I don't think they will sell.And then what's gonna happen? SE will say there is no interest for their games on S2 and will drop the support.
>>743437807This is from 27 years ago. On a fundamental level HD-2D is awful, it looks cheap, tacky, mass produced for a quick turn around.If someone says to me that the HD-2D looks better than FFIX's style then you're not a fan of the series.
>>743437807The obviously mobile-inspired UI bothers me more than the game's graphics.
>>743440802>This is from 27 years agoIt is a picture
>>743415214pirating it like I pirate everything else
>>743438369>>743421603
>>743437690>>743438369Man, what a retard you are.
>>743415214Unlikely, Turd-Based fags don't buy games
>>743437690>>743438601I don't think I've ever seen someone more delusional on this website in all my years.
>>743441116>It's a pictureNOOOOO YOU DON'T SAY!
>>743415310Full price and looks meh. They could have made better looking 2d graphics but they went low effort.
>>743438369>>743437690>>743438601Correct
>>743415470You want every game to be photo realistic AAA shit?
>>743415582This one has none>>743420192
>>743441237see >>743438045
>>743420192Not reallyOctopath look diffetentDragon Quests ones look differentStar Ocean one looks different tooThis one also looks differentYoure just mentally retarded
>>743437690>If this was a turn based 2.5D game based on a Last of Us gachaWhen you have to make up falseflag scenarios to prove a point, you know you have failed.
>>743438086>RPGMaker looks betterIt never will
>>743437807It looks cool so I will be buying.Also its not a reporpused gacha, its a game made from scratch
>>743433706>>743440343first thing ill do is wait for a mod that fixes this font, it was bad in the old FF3-FF6 versions, it was bad on the pixel remasters' launch and its still bad here
>>743415214I'm sold.100% buying it.
>>743440802Thats just a JPEG
>le pixel
>>743415214this is just a free phone game right? I guess it's worth a download
>>743440343I like them>>743441946
>>743441946No its a game made from scratch, the phone game looks worse and its no longer available
>>743437690>>743438369>>743438601This is an astronomically bad case of the persecution complexes. Your entire grip on reality has been destroyed.
>>743415470>It's not an artistic or stylistic choice, its a shortcut to save moneythis nigga thinks old games with pixel art didnt just want to save money by making it pixel or turn based
>>743425386first console turn based final fantasy in over 10 years and not even sold at full price and he's still crying
>>743437690>>743438369>If FFXVII was UE5>If FFXVII was Exp33-like, then you would also criticize it>If they make an original game, then you would complainWhen you have to make up falseflag scenarios to prove a point, you know you have failed.
>>743442154I'm not making scenarios, it is actually what would happen, because i've seen it already happening.
>>743430776Not mobile game, its a new game made from scratch, the mobile game looked horrible and wasn't even made in the same engine
>>743442192>i've seen itOh shit, when did FFXVII come out?
>>743421603This is what happened, I remember that.>>743438045>make up scenariosHuh? Are you 12? That's what happened.>>743438369FFXVII doesn't exist yet, none of this happened.
Is it (now) safe to say that Expedition 33, while a good game, is actually not original and how they took an inspiration from games such as Legend of Dragoon?
>>743442237What would be your opinion on FFXVII being UE5?What would be your opinion on FFXVII being exp33? Like Hamaguchi saying "we've being inspired by Exp33 so much that we've decided to make our own exp33! *laughs?Would would be your opinion Hamaguchi showing up deciding to make FFXVII on an entirely new battle system, not turn based, not using any other engine but an entirely new one?
You will never be able to please FF fans. Everyone will parrot muh 2d turn based return to tradition but in reality, what they want is just a clone of whatever FF game they played first as a child.
>>743442312Lost Odyssey was their major inspiration
>>743438369I liked XVI despite its flaws and am hoping exvius' adapted story is decentI do not like the VII remakes because they are bad games that fail to grasp anything the original did right, not because of how they look
>>743442402Finally a correct opinion
>>743442312Who gives a fuck if a game is original? Their favorite games are on the company website
>>743442402>I liked XVI despite its flaws and am hoping exvius' adapted story is decentYeah well, good for you. Now lets talk to the 99,9% rest of /v/.
>>743442115$49.99 seems like full price.
>>743442402>Like 16>Hate 7RPoor taste
>>743442453>>743442312All the japs have done for 50 years is visit Europe on holiday and copy European history and art and weaponry and culture and call it a JRPG.
>>743415310There is always three times of retarded niggers in these threads>the niggers who hate all pixel shit, usually zoomers that grew up with the ps2 and never played classic games asking for 3D games but still complaining when they come out>the classic boomers who hate everything new and want games to look like they were made in RPGMaker>the in betweeen niggers who want photorealistic AAA turn based games Did I miss any?
>>743442453I don't know why I said that. Maybe because some anons pretend like E33 set new standards for JRPGs that everyone should follow? If that's the case, then we should at least acknowledge who did it first. No?
>>7434425207R fucking sucks and brings nothing of worth to the compilation, which already blew ass
>>743441116but still, it was ok for characters to walk on picture
>>743418226I realized when I finally played Octopath on PC that it looks pretty good, but absolutely REQUIRES turning off the bloom and vignette. Only then does it look like an earnest game and not some 12 year old from 1992's misguided concept of what "games are going to look like in the future.">>743415439I'm much less dismissive of this after seeing the comparison. This is less of a wholesale recycling than I assumed, which I guess was retarded because the phone game wouldn't have usable assets for this.
>>743442473 I like XVI too
>>743442360>What would be your opinion on FFXVII being UE5?That's fine as long as it's a good game. I have never loved or hated a game simply because of the engine it was made on before. Would you hate it?>What would be your opinion on FFXVII being exp33?I mean, I'd want it to be FF, not E33, but if they took something from it that they felt inspired by, what's the problem? I know you are obsessed with it and it's an evil force in your life but I don't really care about it. Would you hate FFXVII if they took influence from E33?>Would would be your opinion Hamaguchi showing up deciding to make FFXVII on an entirely new battle system, not turn based, not using any other engine but an entirely new one?That would be very exciting. Why would I hate that? Would you?I don't understand why you are bringing up these "worst case scenarios" when you would like them no matter what. Why so preoccupied with what others might potentially negatively say about a game that is still about a decade away from existing?
>>743442652I heard your lack of taste the first time, there's no need for you to repeat it.
>>743442615I love that you will never be happy as long as one person on earth is saying they don't like the most recent FF game. The curse of Barry must be a nightmare to live with, but I have no sympathy. Even Barry eventually moved on (somewhat) but I wonder if you ever will.
>>743437807they're just summonsno different than Ifrit and Shiva and shitThey're literally just summoned heroes who have their own origin completely independent of their games. Meaning just because Tidus is in the game does not mean the plot of his game is canon or that Spira exists to some extent in the world of THIS game. I wish they would at least redesign them more like they do the actual summons from game to game though.
>>743442739yeah I haven't developed a fondness for dogshit like you I get it
>>743415214Buying day 1
>>743415534Stop...
>>743437690>>743437896>>743438369>>743438601>>743442360Are you actually insane or just the biggest FF schizo fanboy ever? Every single videogame that isn't FF is not your enemy you fucking loser.
>>743442630You're fighting ghostsThe developers openly talk about the games that inspire them
>some fag tries to turn yet another ff thread into a kvetching about ex33 and atlus therapy sessiona shame
>>743415310I dont hate 2dhd. I hate squenix re using assets and story from its f2p gacha game and charge you more than 20 bucks from it. I aint paying 50 for that shit
>>743443097I know. And I know that the main guy behind this game loves FF VIII
>>743442924>Says the one praising a game that's too afraid of its own fucking skinLmao
>>743437807What a Bitch Baby lol >WAHH! WAHH!
>>743418702it's crazy to think how there literally wasn't an iconic ifrit-tier summon for wind before fucking FFXIwe had fucking titan since III
hmmm how do I keep lashing out on the offensive in a completely unreasonable way and refuse to answer any question directed at me even though he answered mine?attack attack attack, never give an inch, that's the wayit's him who is a bad poster, not me. they are all biased, not me, I am the only one who isn't biased.
>>743442924>>743442652>>743442402>Wants to be an arpg but too afraid to do that properly>Tries to be deep and mature but quickly pivots to a plot that makes the average tales of game look nuanced>Blatant MMO MSQ structure that bogs down the game>Shitty Eikon pacing where you spend like 1/3rd of the game with just Ifrit and Garuda and then at the end, you get Bahamut, Shiva and Odin practically back to back>Lazy gearing system that might as well not exist beyond accessoriesEtc
>>743440802FF8 > FF7 > FF9There I said it!
>>743443656I always loved bottom right but can never quite articulate what it was.
>>743437807Looks fine to me. I don't know why people act like filters and bloom raped their mother.
>>743437807>Make a completely original game with all original characters with no "multiverse" or shit like that.The use of past characters is purely a gameplay thing. This game DOES have it's own characters with it's own story. The crossover shit has no bearing on the story.
>>743430143>>743434596I love how amongst all the bickering and complaining us Selphie enjoyers can talk about how much we love her.
So let me see.According to this thread, FFXVII (and all FF games, even spin offs), should be>Classic turn based, no funny business, extra mechanics, or new stuff, just classic turn based that feels fresh somehow>AAA graphics, no pixel, but also very artistic, we dont want something soulless>Everything about the story: good. Dark, but not edgy. Whimsical but no humor so we can take it seriously
>>743443908Why are you so concerned about what others want FFXVII to be like? You're going to like it no matter what SE do, right? But you're still angry 10 years before it comes out because you're imagining criticisms of a game that doesn't even exist yet.
>>743444082Is that a no? What do you want, then?
>>743444126No to what?I am asking you why you are mad about people criticizing FFXVII ten years from now, already, based on what you imagine will happen. You're telling everyone they are wrong, pre-emptively.
>>743415310Some people don't like anything and make it their personality to be a doomer retard on /v/. I'm sure a lot of them will look at this post and feel a moment of self-awareness before opting to call me a faggot.
>>743437690>>743437896>>743438369>>743438601>>743442360>>743443908It must be so exhausting and miserable living like this.
>>743443519I must say, you've got that "dodge all questions" part down to a fine art.Too insecure to state your opinion, I guess? Just keep grilling others and tell everyone they are wrong. Question them endlessly. If they ask you something, ignore it. Question them again. And again and again. You're not biased btw.
>>743444262You don't like /v/ and yet here you are. Faggot.
>>743443908>/v/ is one person
>>743420935This remake is better than all other versions.>>743429982yeah that looks pretty bad ass>>743437807HD 2D looks awesome. Just turn off the stupid vignette.
>>743415214fuck you.i'm gonna support this game because i played ffbe and loved the shit out of the first two seasons.and they better put their back on the space train saga to not make it a snorefest, or create something totally new and fun.
>>743444606Looks like I struck a nerve. Feeling self-conscious about your behavior?
The fact that I can answer your questions and you can't answer mine just means you lose, by the way. Concession happily accepted. Enjoy spending an entire decade imagining people disliking FFXVII and being angry about it.
prompt: create an image that is on the same level as the pre rendered backgrounds in ps1 games like final Fantasy 9. Are you capable of identifying what I'm talking about? Make the pre render a scifi fantasy castle town the player will run around in. Should look like high quality ps1 cgi cut scene pre rendered backgrounds. It should like an area the player can run around with fixed camera
XVI is the best one
prompt:create an image that is on the same level as the pre rendered backgrounds in ps1 games like final Fantasy 8, parasite eve 2, resident evil 3. Make the pre render a scifi fantasy gnostic dungeon the player will run around in. Should look like high quality ps1 cgi cut scene pre rendered backgrounds. It should like an area the player can run around with fixed camera
>>743415214Very low chance of me skipping this. Pretty much a sure thing ill buy and finish it because i did in fact ask for it. Must be weird for people on /v/ that dont play games but model their personalities around YouTubers though.
>>743445386forgot pic
>>743415214I didn't ask for this and there's a very high chance of me skipping it
>>743415214the problem isn't the graphics, it's the censored lame stories they keep adding, that has all kinds of "problematic" content taken out of it. Square Enix are a fully blown goy slop company.
>>743415214>HD2Di sleep
>>743445397>Very low chance of me skipping this. Pretty much a sure thingNaturally>model their personalities around YouTubersPoint out what posts you are referring to and what you mean by this. You can't, because you are a schizo fighting voices in your head. Disagree? Then tell everyone what you're talking about and show us the posts. You won't, because you are just a schizo. Proving otherwise would be easy... but again, you won't. You can't.
>>743445162>>743445842>>743444302>>743444196>>743444082>>743443087what a life
As someone who has played FF since the SNES, let me just say this is the worst fanbase in all of gaming
>>743445842Sorry, I can't!
>>743445979You're such a fucking loser man. How many times have you entered the thread as a new person to drop "wow looks great! everyone who dislike is retard" yet again? At least once every time you were asked a question that you didn't want to answer. That insecurity and dedication to a brand is quite the combo.
>>743415214Resonance lookin goodcan't be much worse than Redditbirthso I think I'm buynary on this one boys
>gachaslop recolourednope
>>743445842Here>>743445326>>743445386
>>743446063As someone who has played since the PS1 days (but started with the PS1 versions of IV and VI), I'm inclined to agree. No game in the franchise since IX spinoff or otherwise has pleased everyone. There is no hypothetical game they could make that would please the majority of the fanbase nowadays, much less the entirety of it.
>>743447740True. No matter what SE do, someone will say they don't like it. Much like how people react to literally every single piece of media in the world. But I think you and I (and nobody else) can agree this is only really a problem when people treat FF games this way.
>>7434152142dhd is such a fucking disgusting artstyle. Just cheap ugly and lazy
>>743415214Looks awesome, will pirate.
>>743448449You kept asking for this turd-based pixelslop return to form for Final Fantasy and now you're not even going to buy it?
>>743448401Entries in this series are a lot more divisive for fans than other series
>>743448898>>743421603
>>743415479Kingdom Hearts X my beloved
I'll buy it if it's good.
>>743448898>>743449213What are you trying to say here? That Resonance doesn't look "classic" enough for you?
>>743449502ugh yet more unrealistically high demands from the worst fanbase ever
>>743449619You are such a loser
>>743449598Listen, when i made >>743421603 i wasnt thinking clearly, i was just mad i was getting told.
>>743449721You still here? To post what, I wonder.
>>743438369I'm hoping this is bait, but it is summer after all.
>>743449787still mad that post ruins all the posts you had planned for the next 10 years? consider it a gift. now you don't have to pretend to be 50 different people per thread all saying the same retarded thing over and over.
>>743444302It is. He's still going by the way.
>>743443862holy sexo
why are FF fans so fucking autistic?
>>743450049Is it... not normal to imagine people criticizing a game that won't be out for another decade and to get mad about it?
>>743450128>>743449976>>743449910>>743449886>>743449819>>743448401What a life
>>743450128imagine reading this and KNOWING it's making fun of you because you genuinely have this mental problem
>>743450220You know what make you feel better? Bitching about turn based games, E33, Atlus games, and FF fans for daring to dislike anything SE do, for 12 straight hours again tomorrow. How does that sound, champ? Sounds good, doesn't it?No?Well, maybe you'll do something different instead. (lol)
>>743416675FF6, FF7 and FF8 are literally the only FF games with a good setting. FF12 is okay but everything else is absolute dogshit. Yes that's including FFIX.
