WTF was her goal even? Just finished kotor 2 and Im so confused, not even sure if all my companions survived (Atton surely is dead I could not be bothered to reload 15minutes of dialogue to MAYBE beat one of the major sith lord bosses solo with his butchered build).This old lady has been yapping to my ear entire game, but i still do not get what was her point.
you need the Restored Content mod to salvage the trainwreck that is Kotor II's ending
>>743423865Lmao, TSLRCM is a huge meme and makes everything even worse.
She straight up tells you? She hates the force because she sees it as a manipulator and wants to free herself and everyone else of its influence
>>743423779Her actual endgame:>Step One: Get the Exile to kill Nihilus because she couldn't teach him to be anything other than an all consuming hole.>Step Two: Get the Exile to reunite the Jedi Masters so she could see if any of the last decade has taught them anything, kill them if they haven't.>Step Three: Get the Exile to come after herself, Sion and the Sith Assassins so all her remaining failures, and threats to the galaxy she participated in, can be wiped clean.>Step Four: Hope the Exile learned enough of what she was teaching to finally understand that he should live for himself, not for Jedi/Sith dogma or the "will of the Force".She wanted to remove the force from every living thing, recreate Malachor on a galactic scale and use the exile as proof that you don't need the force to live.
>>743423779Think for yourself except don't because when you think you are making a decision you're not you're applying all the external forces that have shaped your perspective as an autonomous force of will and the only way to actually think for yourself is to kill all the oppressive forces that are trying to shape, shaping, and have shaped (You).
>>743423779she hated that the Force steers people's behavior. she hoped that (You) would come to the same conclusion as her, but you didn't. then she had to put you down
>>743423779Basically since Shitsidan have the writing levels of a 10 year old childher losing access to the force was a stand in for her having her child killed and she's just raging over it. IE 'a stronk womyn is rampaging because muh baby died' and the end goal is to kill all those that are responsible and hope the adopted little shit isn't failure (exile)
>>743423913agreed on everything except the expanded bits on Malachor, it's way too abrupt without it
>>743423927>>743423935>>743423987>want people to be finally free from the force's will... but everyone must follow her will
>>743423779>he lost attonSkill issue
>>743424215>Conveniently ignore the posts that refute your bad faith pointKYS.
>>743424008And it's way too cringe with it
>>743423779She's a bitter grandma that failed at being both a Jedi and Sith so now she goes>If I can't have it no one can
I genuinely think Kotor1 is the better game. I played both modded kotor2 with TSLRCM + fixes+ difficulty mods and kotor1 with dialogue fixes. Not only Kotor1 was still difficult, it also didnt have author self insert who for entire game was trying to convince you to his fanfiction takes on Star wars and force.
>>743423779KotOR2 is the "The Last Jedi" of Star Wars video games. Don't bother thinking too hard about it. It just has a very dedicated small group obsessed with calling it great, just like TLJ fanatics.
>>743423865The same mod that has Kreia tell Atris "I am the one who asked him to be exiled"?And has Kreia playing dance dance revolution with your companions on Malachor?
>>743424795What if I hate TLJ and TFA, haven't even bothered to see TRoS or D+ streamslop, but love Kotor 2?
>>743424954Then you're pretty much exactly like the TLJ fanatics. Where the other stuff is shit, but "this is the good one that tried to be different"
>>743424649Kotor 1 Light Side run is really good and mops the floor with Kotor II.The Dark Side run suffers from the comically over the top evil dialogue choices. In Taris it's literally "OK I will help you" or "I will kill you and take everything you own"
>>743425019And if I like Kotor 1 as much as Kotor 2?
>>743424950>And has Kreia playing dance dance revolution with your companions on Malachorlimitation of the engine/tech, use your imagination a bit
>>743425104nta but you're probably a faggot thenhope this helps
>>743425052one of the most popular kotor1 mods is dialogue fixes which has optional component to slightly reword evil dialogue choice to make it less cringe and immersion breakinghttps://deadlystream.com/files/file/1313-kotor-dialogue-fixes/
>>743425104Probably just retarded would be my guess. But hard to tell from here.
>>743425158Nice
>>743424000obsidian derangement syndrome
General, Malacho~~~~~r
>>743423935>you dont need the force to live!>uses the force to wiggle around light sabres to try to live
>>743425247>whispers angrily
>>743425296He's dead at the end btw
>>743425239Anon, name one fucking good story in a game they did outside of South Park which wasn't written by themI like Obsidian, I do. Because of them we get to see just how shit it could be if other studios were like them but you cannot literally give a good game they made outside of the South Park ones where all they did was the engine and combat.
>>743425124None of the obsidian scenes are as cringe as this
>>743425337He died at malacor.
What would Kreia think about Palpatine?
>>743425893she would frown and disapprove of him having fun and loving being evil
>>743423779Kreia's goal is the one thing that's actually explained clearly in the vanilla game's ending
Revan understood snacks.
>>743424795>KotOR2 is the "The Last Jedi" of Star Wars video games
>>743425893He would gain influence with her by manipulating othersHe would lose influence with her by doing anything with it
>>743423935but why does she want you to kill her
>>743423779ah yes the eternal /v/aggot too smallbrain to understand kreia thread.
>>743424215>You want to free slaves? What if they WANT to be slaves, huh? Isn't it kind of like you're ENSLAVING THEM to FREEDOM?
>>743423779She was a Sith who realized the inherent flaw of the Sith society but came to the wrong conclusion to correct it.The Sith are about the attainment of power to secure freedom, utilizing raw emotion to harness theDark Side of the Force as a weapon to gain that power. Naturally, this power corrupts, not as an effect of the Dark Side but rather as a factor of basic sentience. Those with power and freedom go to extremes to keep that power and those freedoms. Paranoia over your lessers and jealousy for your superiors is the natural end-point of Sith philosophy because of this.Kreia believed that this was being caused by the Force rather than by sentient nature, and so sought to create something 'outside' the Force. She somewhat ironically couldn't accept that paranoia and jealousy were natural to all beings, and that it HAD to be the Force that pushed people to such extremes.She wanted the Exile to think and act on their own without the Jedi, the Sith, or even the Force influencing them.
>>743425527>old game has bad animationsDo oldfags really?
>>743423779The Overman.
>Force is the source of people suffering and war>remove Force and people still fight, evil exists and innocent people sufferKreia was a retard
>>743423779She wanted to kill the Force because she saw it as an evil and manipulative god.I have no clue how she intended to accomplish that, or why we bothered flying to Malachor to "stop" her (from doing what?).
>>743431689Apparently she would kill herself and you in the process through the bond you both shared.
>>743431868and you prevent that by killing her?
>>743431980yes thats the part which confuses me too lmao
Perhaps you would like some pretzel?
>>743423935>Step One: Get the Exile to kill Nihilus because she couldn't teach him to be anything other than an all consuming hole.He learned from the best and she punishes him for it
>>743423779I wasn't the only one who wanted to rail her right? God Kreia was just asking for it. Want me to make my own decisions? I'm deciding to bend you over this table and rail you for the next 26 galactic hours.
So is Kotor2 pretentious drivel or work of a genius ?
>>743423987She hates a lot of things
>>743431689>I have no clue how she intended to accomplish thatKilling the Exile at the Trayus Core would release the echo of Malachor that deafened him to the Force at the end of the Mandalorian Wars, which would then be amplified by the planet itself and spread outward until it engulfed the entire galaxy, deafening all life touched by the Force
>>743435142So then if he'd have stayed away instead of going after her...her plan could never have worked?
>>743435985She threatens to kill the Exile through their bond by killing herself if he doesn't go to Malachor to face her
Reminder that KOTOR/SWTOR isn't canon.
>my extremely competent disciple has brought all you fucking useless faggots together again, be useful for once>hmmmm no, we will sunder the exile's force and hide in a holeMAYBE THE JEDI DESERVE TO BE WIPED OUTATTON, PAZAAK THEM
>>743437178Considering George Lucas constantly flip flops and changes opinion what is canon, i dont think hes the best source about Star wars
>>743436964OK, do it bitch. I'll noble sacrifice by not going.
>>743437418>Considering George Lucas constantly flip flops and changes opinion what is canonHe never did.KOTOR 2 is particularly stupid with the "wounds in the Force" nonsense and Kreia's entire ideology requiring her to be the Force User equivalent of an illiterate flat-earther, because her retarded rambling is incompatible with how the Force actually works - something that every Jedi and Sith in-universe knows -, and her plan not making a lick of sense and impossible to implement without killing all life, thus making it contradictory to her delusional goal of "saving the galaxy and poor people" from the "evil controlling force".
>>743429864lol, why did I read that in antons voice
>>743423779shes avellone self insert shitting on star wars with proto BEAR AND BULL posting
>>743438591its written in his sarcastic style
>>743433095*snort* lol
