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Mass Effect inspiration with all the main cast + Krystal, and you can make your own sparkledog OC.

>>743426627
You can't. The fans are psychotic. Literally just remake 64 again. It's the only game they will ever accept.

64/remake gameplay with a new setting and story. Let it take place in Fox's home system instead of Lylat. Expand greatly on the multiplayer. Let there be other mercenary jobs that you can do on the side.

>>743426627
A new game where the main gameplay is a rail shooter campaign. Try as hard as possible not to fall into being a rehash of SF64.
Secondary gameplay in the form of support activities for the shooting missions. Visit the occasional planet or space station and try to get a good deal on the parts needed for upcoming maintenance. Plan your own routes through large patches of less-inhabited, unlawful space. Play space card games with whoever's free between missions. Manage the crew's morale for slight but noticeable performance improvements in combat.

>>743426627
Ace Combat where you land to infiltrate enemy bases or explore dungeons inbetween flight missions.

>>743427514
How can you say that when every game that's come out after 64 has had glaring flaws? Just make a good game and people would be happy.

>>743427950
>Play space card games with whoever's free between missions. Manage the crew's morale for slight but noticeable performance improvements in combat.
I love that idea. Let us wander around the Great Fox, too, doing things.

>>743427950
>>743429768
Create a friendship system too. Learn more about the crew mates if you build up the relationships.

>my precious coombait

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i'd rather have velan remake an obscure gem

>>743426627
>that will make everyone happy.
Not possible, you can never make everyone happy. It's why most new games are just gray sludge that is 'fine' to everyone.
I don't care what star fox does next, as long as its not another fucking 64 remake.

>>743430903
>our precious coombait
>their degenerate gooner slop

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.

>>743429924
That'd be fantastic. I love stuff like that.

>>743426627
What the fuck is she wearing?

Starfox will always be awkwardly torn between two camps of players. One camp wants arcade action in the vein of Rogue Squadron and Panzer Dragoon, while the "other" group, which I won't give its true name, wants sexualised adventures with anthro animals.

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>>743431478
>>743429924

i liked this feature in The Lonesome Guild.

>>743431529
You can appease both groups. The first group is obviously more work, because you have to make a good game. But the second group you just put krystals tits on screen and give wolf a deep growly voice and you are done. The former camp wont buy a bad game, but the later camp will.

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would there be fights in the Great Fox if the friendship system is too low?

>>743431517
are you surprised?

>>743433998
That she wears what's pretty much is a thong? Yeah, I didn't expect that in a kids game.

>>743434209
Miyamoto mandated.

>>743434209
>no sexy women allowed
>circumvent it by making it furry
>"haha youre not aroused by the animal right ya weirdos? so its all okay"
genius

>>743426627
New game
no gimmicks

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>>743426734
>>743427950
This topic has been discussed for a long fucking time, and I was here when Assault's multiplayer was still a thing. Generally, the people who actually PLAY starfox want the refined rail shooter mechanics that 64 had (assault was noticeably slower, etc...) without Miyamoto's new retarded gimick fucking things up (castrate the gyro control dev). Expanding this to have campy moments on the great fox like chat/cards/jukebox/bonus snes vidya in-game on a console etc... Some might argue on-foot sections should be there, I'm willing to entertain it but the landmaster is also an option. A focus on the starfighter side of things is the whole point. Add docking at Corneria for fuel, upgrades, cosmetic bullshit or whatever.
>>743431529
That second camp is exactly like the skyrim players doing sex slave dress up. They're a cancer that accrues in some cases and need to be ignored or evicted outright. Krystal is irrelevant, exactly as irrelevant as the retarded "gay romance" fags keep pushing for. It's a game about animals in spaceships, it needs to stay in that lane. Add multiplayer campaign mode and deathmatch and you are golden.

>>743426627
Is that her bare ass?

>>743427514
>Just demake 64 again
It's failed the last 3 times but 4th times the charm. Idiot. Assault won. Namco was vindicated yet again. Tendies getting blown tf out by smaller devs left and right

>>743434209
It was unironically a different time.

>>743435751
Her VA still desperately wants to be her again. It's sad but also respectable, who wouldn't want to be a smoking hot space fox?

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>>743426627
I'm hoping the leaked adventure game is big and bold enough, and executed well enough, that it finally pushes Star Fox out of SF64's shadow.

>>743426627
Rails on shooter but roguelike and with meta progression

>>743426627
Starfox "RTS". Hero units are deployed from the Corneria, evil units are deployed from venom. Goal is to control lylat. Controlling planets is key, planet wise the closer you are to the enemies base the more you are on the way to victory.

Actual gameplay differs from RTS in that your battles take place via combat like SF64 multiplayer. When you and your team defeat the other one the planets yours until it becomes contested again. The amount of resources you have to make new arwings, tanks, and hire new foot soldiers is directly tied to the planet and the space inbetween the planet that you control. Resource gathering is done automatically.

Simplified gameplay loop. Would probably be fun, it'd introduce something new to starfox. Spits in the face of both railshooter and onfoot fags by making it only a contest of skill between players. Then again they might like it because they could fight eachother.

>>743435302
>bare ass
fox ass, actually

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>>743434209
It used to be normality and you would be desensitized to it until certain focus groups and their dysgenic ilk ruined it for everyone.

>>743426627
>Propose a NEW Star Fox game that will make everyone happy.
Sadly this will be impossible. For Star Fox's fanbase suffers from the same thing Final Fantasy fans suffer from: too much experimentation. When every mainline game keeps trying to add new things to 'freshen' the games up so they don't 'feel like rehashing', it means different people join in at different games and expect what they first played to be more like that game. If this goes on for so long, it divides the fandom and developers are 'forced' to 'pick a side' and risk alienating fractions of fans. You cannot win.

But as for making a new Star Fox game, just reintroduce the Adventures and Assault characters in a new game and new story that flows with 64's and Assault's gameplay combined in a smooth and seamless way. That way 64fags can have their rail-shooter gameplay, Assaultfags can have something extra besides just rail-shooting like ground shooting, and Krystalfags and Pantherfags can have their fanservice back by having them both coming back as well. You can also throw in extra characters people want back as well and reintroduce them to a brand new audience, such as Fay and Miyu coming back. And there you go, Star Fox is back! It won't please everyone, bjt it will please all the core audiences.

>>743426627
Just make literally an Ace Combat game but in the Star Fox setting. A bunch of big setpiece levels, constant radio banter over a good soundtrack, a corny story about freedom or whatever and a ton of different ships and subweapons to unlock.

>Be kid in 1st grade
>Have tomboyish friend who was obsessed with banjo kazooie and Kazooie herself
>She would come over to my house every day and we would play vidya
>During recess pretend to be Falco and she would pretend to be Kazooie Star Fox universe
>Went on missions but also pretended to get married
>Said she wanted to marry me irl when we grew up
>Right before middle school her family moved across the country
>Lost contact with her and forgot about her
>Looked her up recently and found out she died two years ago

It sounds like bullshit and I don’t expect /v/ to believe me but life comes at you fast and you wish you could go back.

>>743437487
If it makes you feel better she probably changed for the worse, so savor the memory of youthful innocence

>>743427950
>Try as hard as possible not to fall into being a rehash of SF64.
Literally all it takes is a fresh set of bosses and new barebones plot. You could even use the same damn planets, provided you stick with the above and maybe switch up the order a little bit.
When I say "I want more Starfox 64", I literally mean I want a systemically identical game that gives me new challenges and new things to shoot.

>>743438102
Well yeah, but apparently that's a tall order these days, so I felt the need to specify.

>>743437487
Based birdfags

>>743437487
really sorry to hear, anon

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>>743436238
why did she do it???

>>743435234
this

>>743426627
What if instead of remaking 64… we remade Star Fox 2?

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>>743431056

>>743441023
Grisdal :DDD

>>743426627
Post-Assault game with similar aesthetics that's a rail shooter (if it has to be on foot too still keep it as a rail shooter). Who cares what the plot is just don't have it be 64 again. If Andross shows up at all the whole dev team commits sudoku.

>>743441023
millions dead

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Might as well follow up "Star Fox" with Star Fox 2, which plays the same way as SNES 2. The board game aspect of SF2 is marvelous and deserves a shot, this game is amazing and actually feels like you are on a REAL war and not just segmented sloppy rail shooter missions

>People hated Slippy in the N64 days
>People now respect Slippy on the Switch 2
What changed?

>>743426627
>Sin and Punishment SS's gameplay
>KI Uprising's banter and humor
>Star Fox 2026's online being expanded with more maps
That's all you gotta do.

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>>743445512
that would be dream coming true.

also add optional co-op where two players can play same mission at once. there's your gimmick, nintendo!

>>743426734
this but minus the make your own OC crap
also have the flight missions be ripped off from Ace Combat

>>743426627
Not possible. But I want a rogue-like Star Fox where you earn money in between levels and upgrade your ship and build a team by hiring mercenaries. Gameplay remains a 3D rail shooter with no other gimmick on foot stages, although the occasional landmaster stage can be in there to mix things up.

>>743445728
the cutscenes between missions and at the end made him likeable

i wont give you ideas shitty dev

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>>743426627

i'm surprised this picture is allowed

>>743432596
>You can intentionally (or unintentionally) sabotage your teams performance by making characters fight
That'd be hilarious

>>743446421
i wish the devs were here to listen to some of these ideas

I'm afraid I can't, because too many idiots want Krystal back.

>>743447789
Shut the fuck up Boco.

>>743447906

Yes sir...

>>743447059
i kinda like that idea

>>743426627
>Star Fox 3
>Its Star Fox 2, but better
>Actuel muppets instead of CGI

>>743446259
>Miyu as bodybuilder
Go away

>>743442595
that would be cool but I'm still glad they remade 64

>>743431440
Bill looking cool

>nukatt

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Star Fox II - The sequel to Star Fox 2026.
Plays like a mix of that game and Star Fox 2 SNES.
Borrows elements from other Star Fox and non-Star Fox games, too.
>Story
With Andross defeated and the CDF greatly weakened, there is a power vacuum in the Lylat System
This has led to unrest across the Lylat System, with new enemy factions and conflicts popping up all over
General Pepper contacts the Star Fox team, asking for support in regaining control over the system
Meanwhile Andrew has taken the reigns after Andross and is coordinating guerilla tactics against Corneria
>Gameplay
Work off of a map similar to Star Fox 2 and Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity
Map contains a selection of planets, key locations in space, and randomly occurring battles
The Great Fox acts as a hub that transports you between locations, and yes, you can walk around in it
>Main Missions
Main missions focus on the planets, each with its own mini-campaign of 3-5 missions
Mini-campaigns have their own stories featuring a key ally and enemy faction
Missions are broken into phases like in Star Fox Zero, so they are longer than typical SF64 missions
Some phases are set (1, 2, 3) while some have split phases (2A or 2B) that you can choose
Split phases typically change gameplay style (Arwing to On-Foot OR Arwing)
Completing a planet's mini-campaign unlocks that key ally as a playable character
>Side Missions
While planet-side, missiles may be launched towards Corneria that you must intercept
Or huge battles will erupt between the CDF and various enemy factions
>Pilots
Every mission you can select which character you want to play as
Fox, Falco, Peppy, and Slippy all unlocked from the start
Characters have their own skill trees and special abilities, like Starlink
Complete all missions and side-missions in a region to unlock that region's companion character
Unlock enemies like the Star Wolf crew in the post-game missions
Freely replay missions with upgrades and characters that you wouldn't normally have

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>>743426627
Fox and Falco get captured and turned into brainwashed castrated troons who are deeply in love with the lizard men that did it to them.

>>743426627
The crew finds out Slippy is a hallucinogenic frog. Hilarity ensues afterwords.

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>>743451238

yes?

>>743452040
It's HARD yes.

>>743451594
everyone's frothing at the mouth and can't answer any incoming calls including Slippy

>>743452878
Their pupils are dilated and wide as the mindlessly ramble things that make no sense.

>>743426627
Krystal survival game set on a doomed space station where she keeps getting exploded into space without her helmet

>>743438102
They did that. It was called Assault, and it fucking failed. And then they tried it again, it was called Zero, and it also fucking failed.

>>743426734
Yes but I feel like only one or two games should have Fox and Krystal. After that make it that you THINK they died, but they just went missing and are still alive somewhere, so now you play as their kid (which you can customize to SOME light degree) to find them and bring war to those that captured them (adding some aspects of Star Fox 2/Command). Slippy, Peppy and Falco will be there but more as mentors (Peppy Strategic support, Slippy for upgrades, Falco for flight training).

You run around and collect a crew, typically people that also have beef with whatever force took your parents. Your character can be leveled then either into a more tech based focus (the fox branch) a more Esper based focus (Krystal branch) or a mix of both. Once you found Fox and Krystal they join the party and basically have the same skills you do but only on their respective branches.

Naturally, just like there are tons of guns, spells and "Krystal's staff but it can transform into other melee weapons" forms, there will also be a bunch of planes to collect. Typically every party member brings one, too but quests unlock them too. So you can go full Star Wars Rogue Squadron there.

General structure is that the overworld is kinda like Freelancer (free space travel), with more defined and linear planet missions, as well as explorable hubs.

>>743452040
she looks better there

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Why did Star Fox turn me bisexual?

>>743431405
>>743431440
wish they'd kept the animal legs for these

>>743436719
Exactly this. A game franchise with an identity crisis is a guaranteed failure. At least remaking the first game over and over is a safety net, but from Adventures to Command it was a perpetual decline for the franchise both in sales and appeal. What they should've done is stick to the initial gameplay foundation and BUILD upon it rather than add a bunch of gimmicks nobody likes and pass it off as innovation.

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>>743426627
thank god miyamoto stepped in and made Krystal such a fuckable piece of ass

is Starfox 2 actually good?

>>743434865
The ESRB were a bunch of clowns in the 2000s the shit you could get away with on a T rating would be qualified as softcore porn today as long as it was furry and didn't draw too much attention to the sexy.

I want to fuck Krystal Fox in Dr Kleiner's lab

>>743431360
Yeah. Krystal is a genuinely awful star fox character and she's only liked for her sex appeal.

>>743459361
Ah... Gordan Freeman... in the flesh... or rather, the fursit?

>>743435918
yes, but please let it keep what's good about 64 and build on it

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Krystal

>>743458878
It is the only good sequel in the series.

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>>743458878
Yes.

>>743453887
People don't give enough credit to assault for how badly it fucked up the success of the series. Making it was a mistake and if they had a more competent team making a game or e en delayed it to wii star fox would have been in a much better place that it ended up in.

>>743446259
Fay is canonically taller than miyu and fox

>>743444858
>Post-Assault game
Nah that game sucked and damaged the series. Preferably i wanted a clean slate after 64 but if the adventures remake rumor is true then I really hope they take the series in a vert different direction than assault.

>>743426627
>will make everyone happy.
starfox: meet n fuck

Slippy’s dead

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>>743462265
ALRIGHT

Is Krystal a poochie?

>>743462060
>that game sucked and damaged the serie
I'm laughing, no one who actually likes the franchise thinks this.

>>743462489
Shadow is a poochie. Krystal is the same genre of that pink bitch from the lilo and stitch tv show. Whatever thats called.

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>>743426627
Alright, easy.
>LoK remake
>AAA budget
>Full 3D
>Get the OG actress for Krystal in on it (she would probably be 100% down for this)

>>743462497
>I'm laughing, no one who actually likes the franchise thinks this.
Worst reviews on the series
First game to fail to sell over 1 million
Worst ground shooting gameplay than other shooters of the time
Worst controlling arwing in the series at the time
Presentation was a major downgrade from adventures
Audio was awful
Characters bland and off
Krystal inclusion was not done well
Campaign too short, linear, and bland
Story was not well made and villian was an outnof no where galaga ripoff

There's a lot of things to not like about assault, especially things that understandably brought the series to new lows than elevating it higher.

>>743462805
Experiment 624 aka Angel

>>743426627
64 sequel on a new galaxy aka new planets and levels, that's literally all they had and got to do to make a great star fox game, enough with the new ginmycky experiments just make a sequel of 64 and actual sequel.

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Imamuras own Wolf sketch

>>743426627
Take just the multiplayer from Assault, scale it up to allow 16 players (and allow duplicate characters), add more maps, more vehicles, more weapons, and a handful of additional game modes (team battle, area control, capture the flag, etc.). Release it as a budget game.

>>743435234
Nigger Star Fox IS gimmicks. It's always been gimmicks.
Star Fox: Show off the SuperFX chip.
64: Show off the rumble pack
Adventures: Show off how many polygons the GameCube can render by giving Fox fur.
Command: DS second screen
Zero: Wii U game pad.
2: The SNES mini.

The only normal one was Assault.

>>743465027
Assualt is not the pinnicle of multiplayer in the series. The new star fox multiplayer definitely puts assault's to serious shame. I don't want star fox to pursue being a mediocre combat shooter but rather it play to its strengths which the new star fox on switch 2 does.

>>743465223
Assault had several gimmicks. It's main one was it's main selling point being a multiplayer focused entry, with the single player not even considered until later in development. It also was the only title to utilize the analog triggers of the GameCube as well as having more cinematic experience with an FMV and orchestral music.

>>743447789
But why do they want Krystal back? It can't be something as shallow as thinking she's really hot and are a bunch of gooners for her.

If the Adventures remake/reimagining is true I wonder if they'll try to make Star Fox the new classic Zelda and let all future Zelda games follow the BOTW formula.

>>743465661
I'm hesitant that it will be a adventures remake since that game really needed a lot more effort out into it since it is notoriously unfinished due to its development history. Making a straight remake like they just did with 64 isnt an option and a more drastic rehauling of the game is needed. The same is absolutely true with assault too.

>>743465645
its literally just that.

I think that if they just made ONE proper follow up to SF64, that would give them enough good will to do whatever they wanted. Just one SF64 sequel, not a remake, not a reimagining, no gimmicks, no Krystal, no chicken walker. Just an old fashioned sequel that does everything the original did but refines it and adds more content. Like Super Mario Galaxy 2. Do that just once and Miyamoto can experiment with a spinoff Starfox as much as he wants.

>>743465998
Is that why she just recently had yet another subreddit made devoted to her?

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>>743463416
Since you may have an actual mental retardation disease where you lose your short-term memory, we'll be nice and repeat what's already been said to you a dozen or more times. Saying "this part is bad and worse than before and I don't like it" doesn't make it a correct argument. The fact that you already got your facts wrong by the first line (and especially the second, since it HAS sold over one million) just shows you're not even trying.

>>743466061
So star fox 3?

>>743466136
You're coming off pretty spicy with your rude mannerisms. I'll bite. Name me the source that says star fox assault sold over 1 million copies. If I'm so stupid then someone so smart like you should have no problem finding that source.

>>743455951
So that you wouldn't be full gay.

>743466136
Where's your proof?

>>743466106
no Im sure its all her very interesting character traits such as being Fox's girlfriend and then cucking him for Panther.

>>743467203
You sure?
https://www.reddit.com/r/krystalofficial/

sex appeal is good, actually

>>743467782
Indeed it is but Krystal is still a terrible star fox character

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while the more anthro aspects of nu64 havent quite caught fire, fans seems to love Wolfs new look

>>743465223
a couple of those are just really far reaches

>>743452040
crackwhore cat

>>743469765
It is the typical assaultfag coping mechanism to make their game be portrayed in the best way possible even when reality proves otherwise

>>743470635
This is the least bad 3d fan model but its still pretty bad.

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So why exactly do people hate Krystal for being a female love interest with no personality, but remain quiet about the other girls in this entire series? Like Katt for example canon-wise appears in less games then Krystal, with less total screentime, and also barely has any personality other than 'female love interest' for Falco, just like Krystal is to Fox. Or the fact that people simp for Fay and Miyu, even though they both aren't canon, and have barely any screen time at all, in just one game, and have absolutely no personality or backstory to either. Or the fact that Fara isnt even a canon character too, and is basically the Sally Acorn of this series. Appearing in a comic, and not in the actual games. Or even the new Command girls that appear only once in a game that fans despise, with not much going for them too besides just love interests.

Seems very hypocritical to just single Krystal out for all these reasons, when the whole series has barely any depth when it comes to its characters.

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>>743471337
>Thiggerslop model
>Least bad
Every thickslop 3d model is automatically the worst shit, full stop. Doesn't even resemble her in the slightest

>>743471463
I don't disagree. The issue is there are no good ones.

>>743471407
It's people mad that she is a love interest for fox, that's it. They can hand wave fara, but since krystal is canon they get pissed off about her existence.

>>743471407
The problem is that Krystal is seen as the love interest of the main protagonist. It's okay if the others get offhand romances, especially if they already had a past history to consider (Katt and Falco being in a gang before he joined Starfox) because the game doesn't follow their story, it follows Fox's. So if Krystal's going to be a love interest, at least have some chemistry beyond "I saved you so now you're my girlfriend."

>>743471715
>I saved you so now you're my girlfrien
You need more?

>>743426627
star fox 65

>>743426627
Adventure 2 made by the Zelda team

>>743471463
>on-model nigger show up everytime to whine without fail

>>743426627
Since flight combat is impossible to do for video games unless its outdated on-rails bullshit we have to move to boots on the ground >>743426734 has the right idea but OC crap isn't needed since Fox is the protagonist.

>>743426627
Develop it in-house by Nintendo JP. That is the only way.

>>743471908
To not make her a static character, yes. Fox could literally save any other vixen in Lylat and fuck them instead of her if that's how the romance works.

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>>743471603
there's like two and one of them is private and the other one never gets used in anything.

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very unfortunate, really

>>743426627
Shadows of the Empire but Starfox. On-foot segments that are actual levels and not just going pew pew pew at hordes, with vehicular segments resembling old Starfox games.

>>743473030
What are the names of the models in question? For a friend, of course.

>>743473857
cumminham and jojomingles. kaylafox gets it almost right too, i guess.

As someone that likes Krystal decently and believes she could work in a new game with the right direction I think the reason why she’s so controversial compared to the other female characters is she quite literally was not designed for the Star Fox the way that they were. She’s was going to be the protagonist of her own game series before they decided to turn it into a Star Fox game so everything about her doesn’t mesh the way the other characters in the game do and it’s noticeable.

Is Estelle actually a furry mommy?

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>>743426627
Every level is Krystal going to a new planet and getting raped by the locals.

>>743475849
She killed millions, if not trillions

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>>743476032
It's not rape if it's willing.

She's literally a slut, she came back to Fox just to suck him off at the end of Adventures.

>>743426627
Something like those fan flash games where characters get fucked (K Fox And The Magic Sword), with Krystal/Fox/Wolf/Panther/Miyu/Fay/Katt playable, plays like SF64 meets SF2 meets Assault. No Aparoids, no Andross, General Scale instead.

>>743426734
Damn, I didn't consider that. I like this idea.

>>743426627
Was the thong really necessary

>>743475929
idk, but she should record some JOI

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>>743463750
you can tell Imamura's art from the way he draws creases on clothing. he draws the outline and then throws a bunch of lines in

Wait a second, this isn't video games. You just want to fuck Krystal!

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>>743479021
It's either Krystal or Crackhead Methroe

>>743451471
only based post ngl

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>>743426627
I must breed Krystal

>>743441023
I can almost see the promised land

just a bit further...

>>743458832
if miyamoto didn't make it a star fox game, we could have had a separate Krystal series

>>743426734
Phantasy star online episode 1 and 2 dungeon crawler boss rush

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>>743479760
I must feed Krystal

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Here's the final wave of NSO icons

>>743481794
Should I spend my platinum for the sweepstakes? Would give the backpack to my nephew

>Every single game is a direct rehash of 64
>Half the fans want 64 but updated
>Other half want like Resident Evil with Star Fox or Grand Theft Star Fox or some shit
I wish they would do the lore justice only that fan made show comes close.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uieM18rZdHY

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>no Bill or Katt icons

Really rustles my jimmies.

>>743426627
My memory is shit and ai is worse but I would do it like that old arcade space shooter where your ship was on a circular track on the outside of the screen and you blew up things coming at you from the center which I can't remember the name of. This would evoke the on-rails feeling of star fox while still allowing skill in positioning and dodging. Then you just make a good amount of branching decisions.

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>>743479021
Actually I want to rub against Falco’s cloaca and am neutral on Krystal but posting her gets more replies.

>>743475849
That is a criticism of Krystal but in all truth that wouldn't have actually been that big of a deal if Krystal actually worked as a star fox character. Being a canon immigrant definitely made things difficult but in the hands of better people she could have worked out as a really good character for the series. Adventures limiting her screen time actually benefitted her a lot since it largely avoided that issue and by games end she was a still open with possibiltiies with how she could have be in the series going forward. Assault was what really created the problems with Krystal with giving her the portrayal that gave her most other criticisms. Even command took what was established in assault with how they handled her for that game.

>>743426627
eroge

>>743471407
Krystal is in the forefront and given by far the most prominence in the series which is why she deserves the most criticisms as she also happens to not be a good star fox character. Miyu and Fay are barebone characters but for star fox 2 being a pretty face for a vehicle type was all they really needed to be. Katt was a small ally role who had connections to falco but again she had a minor role and did that role fine. Amanda and Lucy have a bit more going on with them but again they ultimately are not major characters and thus aren't expected to get that much depth or prominence. Krystal arguably worked best in Adventures where she was gone most of the game but she did a good enough job being the prologue of the story, being a plot device, and a beautiful damsel in distress the player and fox has incentive to save especially since she had been playable in the early part to make her more familiar. Basically she had purpose which felt like she eas lacking one in assault besides just imamura's desire to being her back without a real plan on how to make it work. The end result was krystal feeling shallow and not really fitting in with the rest of the team the way they all usually act with each other in other appearances. Command she was given the most importance and fleshed out characterization but that was widely criticized and still failed to make her anything more meaningful than a love interest fox needs to win back.

>>743485183
Gay furries always draw Fox with Wolf and not Fox with Bill. Gay furries have shit taste.

>>743466106
You want the actual reason? She stands out. It's like why you occasionally see mention of Wolf as if anyone who played the game would care about him. The Archetype matters more than the character's actual expression within the franchise, because those are undersold terribly and are only present because style demanded the protagonist have friends and rivals to not feel completely orphaned and colorless against an otherwise flat backdrop.

That no one can think of what to do with any character beyond the most cringe and shame-inducing fanfic shit imaginable merely speaks to the bell curve for furry media being much deeper than anything outside of niche appeal should have, despite being nominally aimed at a major demographic. There's a lot you could do, but you would have to have sane and well-adjusted priorities first. Lapsed 90s gamers, internet porn addicts, and modern content farmers are not a crowd who cross-section well for broad self-awareness, in my experience.

>>743485490
>Lapsed 90s gamers
How long ago did that occur? It that was a decade ago shouldn't there be lapsed 00' gamers by now for the franchise?

I'm genuinely amazed that Nintendo has kept trying to make Star Fox work and has screwed it up every time

I honestly think Command and Assault had more of the right idea
You just have to take those ideas and make them actually good
The more freeform structure of Command and yes there should be on foot gameplay incorporated as well
Fox is one of the most beloved Smash characters
There is no reason on foot gameplay can't work and be good

>>743468241
I hate those stupid purple shoulder pieces. Smash just painted Wolf purple for some stupid reason and now its made its way into the Star Fox series.
Thankfully they added an option to make Star Wolf's colors red in Battle Mode, as God intended.

>>743478024
Is that what it is? I think the underside of her body is just white and it extends down to the base of the tail like a real fox would.

>>743466136
I love this image. The Reddit comment gets me every time.
>4.5k word write-up
When autism, hyper-fixation, and hatred collide.

>>743482631
Tempest? I guess rail shooter is kinda in the same ballpark.

>>743485912
>You just have to take those ideas and make them actually good
This is the most nothing statement I've seen in a really long time. Just saying do x but good this time is not a real solution.

Pick the right team and don't let Miyamoto be near the project and you will get whatever you want

Mass Effect clone
Ace Combat clone
Adventure/Pre-BotW Zelda styled game
Battalion Wars spiritual sequel
Open World action/adventure game with tons of vehicles
A full third person shooter
A weird sci-fi turn based JRPG

Obviously many of these options are pretty niche but Star Fox seriously has potential, just either drop Andross or actually put effort to make him the Bowser/Dr. Wily of Star Fox

>>743486072
Is he wrong?

>>743486246
Miyamoto is no longer involved with star fox really. He's old now. The newest game had him as just a special thanks. Don't expect anything to really change now that miyamoto or imamura are not longer involved with the games.

Andross and pigma are the only villains worth giving a damn about in the series.

>>743486181
No I think this is exactly the time where that is a real solution
You can just make good TPS shooter gameplay that exists in hundreds of other games and slap Starfox in it
You can have more freeform missions like Command and just have them not be boring and repetitive and voila now it works and is fun

>>743486246
>Mass Effect clone
>Ace Combat clone
A mix of these two. As for the team, I genuinely don't know who is left in the industry that could pull it off.

>>743486376
None of what you sais is laying out how to make them good. Just saying do it better isnt going to magically conjure the solution on how to make it actually good.

>>743426627
I don't think a Star Fox game could make everyone happy, the appeal of the series has become too split in order to achieve this. I wouldn't mind another game like Zero but with new stages and harder, because I liked how that game used aiming to create harder challenges, though figuring out how to keep that while making motion controls optional would make more people happy. Yet, some people explicitly want a game like 64 but with new stages instead, even if it still ends up as easy to medal as 64, because that's what they like. Some want a game like 64 in terms of setting. Some instead want something like Assault in setting, some want the SNES/comics setting back, some want another Star Fox 2, some want a game even more focused on story than Assault.

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>New adventure game not this year
>Supposedly not a remake of Adventures
What do you all think this entails? Like what would a non-Adventures adventure Star Fox game look like?

is there a way to emulate JP assault with english subtitles? i want those better facial animations

>>743487129
I have no idea. Hopefully still a lot of Arwing missions but maybe also missions on the ground, too.

>>743483976
I've been banned for less. Careful, anon

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>I'd make a new game that introduces krystal to canon
she is no longer blue, she is now an arctic fox

>>743489180
Krystal was always an arctic fox dumbass. As for the blue that's actually a large reason why she's so popular to furries. She doesnt look good in any other color.

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>>743479021
I've been found out...

>>743489180
>>743489405
But this time, they make her unga bunga dumb.

>>743471407
>So why exactly do people hate Krystal for being a female love interest with no personality, but remain quiet about the other girls in this entire series?
It's because she actually affects the quality of the games since she was given a bigger spotlight. Like taking Peppy's spot and all the nonsense in Command making Fox look bad. Katt just shows up, flirts a little and leaves. All the other girls can be ignored if you don't like them for whatever reason. You can't ignore Krystal because she was given too much of a role in past games.

>>743489410
This stuff is actually good for the series. The moment nintendo announced Krystal returning people will be exposed to all this porn and other garbage krystalfags and furfags have made over the last 20 plus years once she becomes more relevant on web

Vsites. It might make nintendo regret bringing her back at all.

>>743489445
I would actually buy a Krystal game if she acted like Xavier renegade angel.

>>743426734
>Peppyfags and Falcofags debate the genocide of Slippy's race

>no more spinning memes
>no more Katt the crackhead fanart
>no more vids mocking videogame logic
>no more starfox shitposts skits

We're done. It's over.

What the hell is the lylat system actually supposed to look like? Is corneria still the 4th planet of the lylat system since I don't know what the first 3 are supposed to be anymore.

>>743426627
A brand new starfox game without Krystal

>>743490103
Based

>>743486345
true for 64 but they can make something new for new games

>game sales took a massive dive in Japan the first week
>fell off the top 10 completely the second week
The 64 experiment is dead. The remake was a flop that only has beaten the other two worst games in the series (Command and Zero). Reminder that Adventures actually was a best-seller in Japan, and the next rumored game that’s going to be closer to a non-rail adventure genre is going to save the franchise where it matters. Please pray for the poor gays like >>743490103 and >>743490135 who are going to throw themselves off a cliff once the queen returns.

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>>743489180
I am sure plenty of people will REEEEE over it because she wouldn't be blue, similar to how they REEEE'd over Katt being white, but I think an icy white and blue could work pretty well.
Reminds me of her old Dinosaur Planet concept art. I doubt they would use that old DP art to influence her redesign, but rather I think it would just be coincidental.

They should remake starfox 1!

>>743491750
And star fox 2 since they as well make both super nes games fun smoother.

>>743491481
Not liking Krystal doesnt mean by default that person must be gay. Do krystalfags hate gays because that is based and may have me like her more.

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>>743451238
What about her? She's hot.

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>>743491636
Katt being white was entirely because the retarded jeets behind the remake thought that having a talking animal with an unnatural fur color was somehow crossing the line. But this rushed cashgrab likely isn’t going to define the canon character designs going forward, since even the plushes they’re selling for the game are largely using more traditional character designs (except for Falco’s legs). It was an aesthetic gimmick to help sell 64 again (again), and it clearly failed. They won’t radically change Krystal the same way.

>>743492174
>They won’t radically change Krystal the same way.
Because she won't return lmao
On all seriousness though I do not see the pros of bringing Krystal back outweighing the negatives. Why is going about new direction with a different female lead?

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like this

>>743492174
>this rushed cashgrab
the remake is a good game, though

>>743435473
We'll see when the sales numbers are revealed, the remake seems to have simultaneously bombed in japan while at the same time doing well by series standards there.

>>743492979
Duh, it still has the bones of 64 under the hood, so the core is still intact, it's a good game in the same sense BDSP are good games.

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>>743485480
bill stonks are rising steadily

>>743492771
Do Krystalfags have any sincere liking of the star fox series that isn't because of her?

>>743493246
The multiplayer in the 2026 game is by far the best the series ever had.

>>743493635
No, it should be plainly obvious. Which is exactly why a new game featuring that turd would only serve to ruin it

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>>743492174
>a talking animal with an unnatural fur color was somehow crossing the line
They wanted to keep the art style focused on realism.
Yes they are walking and talking animals. That is separate from art direction.
>rushed cashgrab
Its been in development since 2022.
>likely isn’t going to define the canon character designs going forward
I do agree with this. I believe the push for realism was part of the game being a Switch 2 graphical showcase and for the Avatars.
>and it clearly failed
Don't get your hopes up on that.
>They won’t radically change Krystal the same way.
I can see some changes to Krystal in one way or another, but nothing massive.

>>743493635
no, which is why they never draw her with fox and cannot envision the series beyond her sharpclaw prolapse.

>>743493246
Comparing the remake to the BDSP remakes isn't right. Starfox 26 isn't ugly and they put some good stuff in like the cutscenes, multiplayer, challenges, and holoviewer.

>>743426627
sex with krystal

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A Star Fox game with this vibe would be actual fucking kino.
https://youtu.be/cW6zBuO7sb4?si=_yNHlDVsKeNEZO_m&t=59

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>>743426627
>take Star Fox N64 gameplay
>make a sequel to that, no on foot bullshit
>Star Fox crew gets sucked into a wormhole and end up in a different part of the universe and have to find a way to get home
>meanwhile they discover a new race of enemies (vampires, robots, whatever) trying to capture them and find the location of Lylat
>focus on level design like apocalyptic ruins earth, a waterworld planet with huge tsunamis, a jupiter like planet with huge gas storms, a jungle like world with organic life, etc
>big bad boss showdown right before the wormhole that takes you home
that's it. nothing too complicated, keep it simple, focus on level design, that's it, done.

>>743493846
They also never draw Krystal close to how she actually looks in the games.

>>743494029
Star Fox 2026 definitely is ugly, just not in the same way BDSP is. I'll give you that they definitely put more effort into it than BDSP though.

>>743494029
This.

>>743494898
those are men

>>743494965
like your two parents

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Where would Fox have gotten the other three Arwings from? James was shot down in his and Pigma defected (presumably taking his ship with him) so the only one that would have been left to restart Star Fox with would have been Peppy's.

>>743493635
I don't think they care about the series at all. Especially not after Command.

>>743495410
I think James had four originally.

>>743495410
the Great Fox was a weaponized doordasher until they could fund development of two additional arwings u_u
(reminder Imamura posted recently that there was a FOURTH member of James' squadWolf so presumably they add that one in the hangar)

>>743426627
The other day I was thinking about how Fox's Smash moveset is reminiscent of Epsilon Eagle from Alien Soldier, so you could have a 2D Star Fox game with Fox outside his ship that was reminiscent of that, it wouldn't please everyone but I'd certainly like to try it.

>>743495562
That's still two short. Apparently Star Fox operates on a massive deficit due to the debt needed to start it in the first place so Fox being like "I need two more top-shelf starships to resume operation," would be a hard sell to make.

>>743495136
Why is homophobia now the default response from Krystal cultists to anyone who criticizes her?

>>743495562
I believe there was actually a 4th star fox member in Jame's team before they left due to an incident which was prior to pigma betraying James and Peppy. Some believe that person to be wolf.

>>743495906
> "everyone who hates krystal is foxwolf/foxfalco shipper!"
> krystal fans dont even draw her with fox and instead draw her getting gangraped by dinos/human men
Dunno why they're so rectalpained

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>>743493623

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>>743495906
>homophobia
Dude nobody cares about insulting faggots here of all places, even faggots co-opted the word. Hell theres clades and subfactions of faggots who hate each other in their whole lgbtq, rainbow infused cult.

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>>743426734
We'll bang, ok?

>>743495906
Buddy this is 4chan. Even faggots call each other faggots here. Nobody cares

>>743493635
A lot of them like the games that Krystal isn't actually in, so there's a natural disconnect.
Same thing with Sonic with Silverfags.

>>743495831
I'm guessing it was just Fox and Peppy at the start. They did enough jobs to get the other two arwings and eventually added Slippy and Falco to the team. Also, I thought Starfox already existed before the Great Fox loan. James and Peppy wanted to be able to get places faster and expand their job opportunities across the whole Lylat system or something.

>>743495410
>>743495562
James ordered four Arwings along with the Great Fox
01 - James
02 - Peppy
03 - Pigma
04 - Unrecruited fourth member, later inherited by Fox
Fox, when rebuilding the team, then ordered two more Arwings
05 - Slippy
06 - Falco

>>743496108
You’re dodging the point entirely. Is this your tactic to push krystal propaganda?

>>743496075
Honestly renamon did deserve her top spot for all those years. She's a better character than Krystal ever was and had a better design.

>>743485480
They fantasize about their rapist like women so of course the enemy someone who'll abuse them is what they find hot

>>743496208
>A lot of them like the games that Krystal isn't actually in,
I seriously doubt that

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>>743495906
Becuase you anti Krystalfags are as obnoxious as her own fanbase. Nobody else besides gay furfags or bitter nonKrystal waifufags still hold a grudge over her for 20+ years.

Besides, where the fuck do you think you are?

>>743496175
Calling each other a fag is just a blanket derogatory term usually decribing a certain behavior than actual sexual orientation. The krystalfags explicitly used fag to refer to someone being gay aka liking other men for not liking Krystal.

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>>743426627
Erotic game where you play as a human male and you can date and fuck the various exotic women between missions

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>>743496319
I'm not the original anon and I don't care about entertaining whatever rhetoric or boogeyman you think I'm pushing. But I will post an image of Krystal, you cocksucking faggot.

>>743496730
You definitely seem to care from your response.

>>743496730
>gay furfags or bitter nonKrystal waifufags
I'm neither of those and I don't want her back. I want a fresh start without any of the baggage Krystal brings and don't want a repeat of Command where the love interest is able to affect the story in a terrible way.

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>tfw only played Star Fox 64 and the remake so Krystal means nothing to me and don't care about her one way or the other
Honestly if it wasn't for porn I wouldn't even know she existed

>>743496930
Id extend that to adventures and assault since those games had core gameplay that aren't just vastly different from typical star fox, they're also not very good. The stories all took weird directions that didn't really make the series better so a fresh start after the latest remake is what I'm really hoping for. Even the adventure style game rumors to come next I'm really wishing it turns out to being a very different game than adventures.

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>>743426627
WHAT IS THIS? AND WHY IS IT IN MY STARFOX GAME?

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>>743495906
Stop acting like a faggot, then.

>>743497137
>Stop acting like a faggot, then.
Like what? Never saying anything negative about Krystal ever?

>>743497126
Honestly star fox has always had weird shit, many weirder than that thing.

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>>743495906
Why is faggotry the default response from Krystal haters to anyone who likes her?

>>743497365
Yeah, like a giant floating monkey face and then you shoot his face off and then there's a giant floating brain with floating laser eyes and garbage disposal for a mouth

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Krystal is cute

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>>743426627
Rogue Squadron but with Arwings and the Great Fox. And some on-rail sections or specific missions for classic good old Starfox flavor.
There, I solved it.

>>743495906
stop being a faggot

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>>743426627
A Star Fox 64 remake

>>743495410
Old lore indicated that they had been provided to Star Fox by the manufacturer as part of a field-testing contract. Presumably, keeping the aircraft was the payment.

>>743498015
There's a mechanic in one of the ps3 era ratchet and clank games where you sly around in free space listening to the radio and going to different locations and I think I remember side missions you could pick up. I'd like to see that in a future Star Fox release. Also Star Fox should always remain focused on vehicular stuff and especially dogfights

I'd hit Krystal so hard