Just finished AC 1 and it ends with a fucking magic ball that let's the old man mind control an entire village, he tells you all miracles performed by Jesus and other extraordinary events in history were all made by this alien device and you have an entire fight with him in which he revives all the targets you killed, teleports himself and makes ninja clones of his old ass. Yet killing greek gods in odyssey "broke the historical accuracy"???Was it just fake fans who never played any AC the ones who complained?
who gives a fuck about assassins creed, dumb faggot go play a real video game for once in your gay life
>>743429363Nobody here actually plays video games, they just like the thought of playing them and they get all their opinions from YouTube videos.
>>743429363Leave Jesus alone
>>743429363shitting on Christianity was cool in the AC1-2 era
>>743429363Holy shit that sounds kino
>>743429746Yeah, and now Jesus is flossing on their stocks.
>>743429363Ngl I always thought the Dan Brown sci-fi stuff was unnecessary and I was kinda pissed we didn't get a historical action game
>>743429363>ancient ayylmao technology is the same as literal demigods doing magic with no technology
>>743429541/v/troons will say this then go play some weeb dating sim jap garbage like persona
>>743429541What's a real videogame?Also i'm queer, i'm here. Get used to it.
>>743429746I think AC 1 was the first game released with a sensitivity/trigger warning at the start, but that was back when they were more worried about religious fundamentalists than they were worried about SJWs.
>>743430348you're a fag and you're a nag
>>743429363>Game add a Ford Focus to the middle age because everyone with more than 2 IQ will know it's not real since it doesn't fit and is isolated from the rest of the gamevs>Game add gods or a nigger and make it the main character and act like it's the most normal thing in the worldYup same thing
>Altaïr: Tell me, "Master", why did you not make me like the other Assassins? Why allow me to retain my mind?>Al Mualim: Who you are and what you do are twined too tight together. To rob you of one would have deprived me of the other, and those Templars had to die. But the truth is, I did try. In my study, when I showed you the treasure. But you are not like the others. You saw through the illusion.>Altaïr: Illusion?>Al Mualim: That's all it's ever done, this Templar treasure, this Piece of Eden, this word of God. Do you understand now? The Red Sea was never parted, water never turned to wine. It was not the machinations of Eris that spawned the Trojan War, but this! Illusions, all of them!>Altaïr: What you plan is no less an illusion. To force men to follow you against their will!>Al Mualim: Is it any less real than the phantoms the Saracens and Crusaders follow now? Those craven Gods, who retreat from this world that men might slaughter one another in their names? They live amongst an illusion already. I'm simply giving them another, one that demands less blood.>Altaïr: At least they choose these phantoms.>Al Mualim: Or do they? Aside from the occasional convert or heretic?>Altaïr: It isn't right.>Al Mualim: Ahh. And now logic has left you. In its place you embrace emotion. I am disappointed.It seems (You) didn't play the game, you disingenuous christcuck subhuman faggot. Illusions, FAGGOT! ILLUSIONS!
>>743430136Anon all the gods in Odyssey and Valhalla are stated to be the aliens who created all these artifacts. AC:Black Flag had fucking magic reincarnation and demonic body posession for fuck sake.
>>743430348absolutely disgusting, how embarrassing I'd tell you to imagine someone showing you this as a kid but you'd probably get hard, you sick fuck
>>743430602But Yasuke was real anon. There are records that prove it.
>>743430668> No no you see it's not REAL magic, it's just MIND CONTROL magic that makes all the villagers attack you and be turned into slaves and makes clones and teleport but uhhh it's all AN ILLUSIOOOON!What's the difference between necromancy and mind control magic? :)
>>743429541>*proceeds to post his tenth thread about tranime cunnyshit on /v/ for today*/v/ermins are really pathetic.>>743429746Good. Abrahamcuck poison deserves to be shat upon. Imagine falling for jewish schizobabbles.
>>743430956>the villagers attack youThis never happens in the game, they just stare at you like idiots.You didn't play the game.
>>743430668I miss this original idea that the Pieces of Eden were just forces of mind control. Even the sci-fi not-magic bullshit tied into the basic theme of this all being about controlling/guiding the minds of humanity. Not the crazy superpower magitek shit its turned into.
>>743430770Are yo usaying you're a kid and i'm showing you this so this is inappropiate?
>>743429363as someone whos been playin since ac1 i never understood why tards hated the sci-fi stuff, like desmond was boring as shit and ac3 sucked but the eden stuff was neat
>>743430368it was because in AC1 you go around killing muslim, jew and christian leaders. the game was gonna piss off everyone if it wasnt done tastefully.
>>743429363>all miracles performed by Jesus and other extraordinary events in history were all made by this alien deviceis this true? if this is true im not going to church on sunday!
>>743431098Literally have a screenshot of every single moment in the game and you have to fight multiple waves anon, maybe you should try playing it instead of being a pretentious larper? The "AKTHUALLY IT'S AN ILLUUUSION NOT ACTUAL NECROMANCY" is such reddit behavior. No wonder you have no girlfriend.
>>743431413You don't kill a single jews and muslims are constantly humanized while christians are mocked and the scientist in Desmond section constantly tells you the bible is a fictional book. Game sets out to attack christians while making you save jews from the evil slavers and humanizing muslims. Game even has f*minist garbage.The only minority that takes a hit is gay men.
>>743429746You didn't play the game:>Richard: Well fought, Assassin! It seems God favors your cause this day.>Altaïr: God had nothing to do with it. I was the better fighter.>Richard: Ah, you may not believe in him, but it seems he believes in you. Before you go, I have a question.>Altaïr: Ask it then.>Richard: Why? Why travel all this way, risk your life a thousand times, all to kill a single man?>Altaïr: He threatened my Brothers and what we stand for.>Richard: Ah. Vengeance then.>Altaïr: No, not vengeance. Justice, that there might be peace.>Richard: This is what you fight for? Peace? Do you see the contradiction?>Altaïr: Some men cannot be reasoned with.>Richard: Like that madman, Saladin.>Altaïr: I think he'd like to see an end to this war as much as you.>Richard: So I've heard, but never seen.>Altaïr: Even if he doesn't say it, it's what the people want, Saracen and Crusader alike.>Richard: The people know not what they want. It's why they turn to men like us.>Altaïr: Then it falls to men like you to do what is right.>Richard: Nonsense. We come into the world kicking and screaming, violent and unstable. It is what we are. We cannot help ourselves.>Altaïr: No. We are what we choose to be.>Richard: Hah! Your kind, always playing with words.>Altaïr: I speak the truth. There's no trick to be found here.>Richard: We'll know soon enough. But I fear you cannot have what you desire this day. Even now, that heathen Saladin cuts through my men and I must attend to them. But perhaps having seen how vulnerable he is, he will reconsider his actions. Yes. In time, what you seek may be possible.>Altaïr: You were no more secure than him. Do not forget that. The men you left behind to rule in your stead did not intend to serve you for longer than they had to.>Richard: Yes, yes. I am well aware.>>743431110The more the series tried to explain ayyylmaos, the worse it got.
>>743431916Why do you keep using an online script? If you played the game you should remember the dialogues yourselves instead of copying and pasting them from somewhere else :S
>>743431660>you have to fight multiple waves anon, Of trained assassins and deceived fellow fighters, not the fucking random villagers that is inside Masyaf Castle, you disingenuous prick.>The "AKTHUALLY IT'S AN ILLUUUSION NOT ACTUAL NECROMANCY" is such reddit behavior.Saying necromancy is reddit by itself, you fantasyfag. None of them were dead in the first place so it's not even that reddit term.>No wonder you have no girlfriend.Ah, resorting to projection, I see. Double check your screenshots, retard.
>>743431769>things that happened in my chuddy dreams: the postThe jokes write themselves.>>743431986See >>743432080Blow it outta your ass.
>>743429363Yeah AssC is a series about ancient advanced tech. Notice how giant Minotaur is not ancient advanced tech
>>743432080>Of trained assassins and deceived fellow fightersAre they not part of the entire village now? Did you play the game?>None of them were dead in the first placeNone of the targets you kill were dead? Are you trolling?Maybe you should go watch Asmongold play AC so you can have more knowledge of the game. Girlfriendless loser.
>>743430219>people autistically obsessed with video games would rather jerk off to underage characters than play assassin's creedthat reflects kinda poorly on AC when you think about it
>>743432203>Are they not part of the entire village now? Did you play the game?Moving goalposts after getting exposed, I see.>None of the targets you kill were dead? Are you trolling?Again, ILLUSIONS, faggot. You kill them and the illusion breaks, revealing them as just other assassins that your mind was hallucinating as your targets because the apple was fucking with you.>Maybe you should go watch Asmongold play AC so you can have more knowledge of the game.Is that what you do and how got your knowledge? Explains things.>Girlfriendless loser.Thank you for revealing yourself and projecting your sad existence after getting BTFO back to back.Pathetic faggot KWAB.
>>743429363Was this before or after they turned into god awful damage sponge beat-em-ups with incoherent plotlines?
>>743432468Odyssey was when they went full retard with damage sponge enemies
>>743432350>revealing them as just other assassinsIf you played the game you would know there were no other assassins, you were fighting ghosts, there was nobody else. Altair was just frozen the entire time. He didn't fight other men thinking they were his dead targets.>projectingBut you don't have a girlfriend so how is it projection? You came into an AC thread to act extremely aggressive and petulant like some pathetic "AKTHUALLY!!!" redditor, you clearly have no girlfriend and it shows.How haven't you killed yourself yet?
>>743429363They were never ever aliens. They were the original Earthlings. Humans are their creation. I have no idea why to this day people think the Isu are aliens, they make it so abundantly clear they're not aliens even from AC2 by outright stating they created us. Humans are literally a slave science project.The Apple and all the other Pieces of Eden are just advanced scientific and mathematically-produced items. You literally help Consus create the Shroud of Eden in Fate of Atlantis and you can see the computer Minerva is using to calculate where to place information for Desmond and Layla to find in Valhalla's Isu content (Picture related) albeit obfuscated by Eivor's drug binge.>Yet killing greek gods in odyssey "broke the historical accuracy"???Because the Pieces of Eden are scientific items. They don't perform magic, they are just using nanomachines or tapping into the fact humans are Isu slaves with a killswitch to mess with our fragile minds. They are the direct showcase of Clarke's Third Law. Al Mualim isn't creating clones, neither is Ezio. They're literally just messing with with Altair and Rodrigo's minds due to the humans being unable to deal with Isu technology on a biological level unless they themselves have Isu blood in them, and even then you need high concentrations to do so otherwise you go insane.The reason the Greek and Egyptian gods are a bad thing to add into the game is because it takes a concept that is specifically meant to be grounded and introduces mythical creatures wandering around. The only time up until Odyssey that anything close to that happened was in AC3 with the Headless Horseman who was implied to be real. In order for the Trial of the Gods to work it has to be handwaved as an Animus glitch, for Apep and most of what Eivor deals with to work it has to be handwaved as a drug binge, and for the other beings to work it has to be handwaved as the collectible beliefs of people due to an Apple manifesting to defend an area.
>>743432849>redditspacing>backtracks like a little bitch>lol dude le randumb trolling!https://youtu.be/qnIxxS8Qtjk?t=397Ironic shitposting is still shitposting. You're forgetting your appointment to suck your daily dose of dick, projecting faggot.
>>743429363I haven't played any past Rogue but all the alien ball and modern day shit was always the worst part of these games.
>>743429363>Why did losers get so upset about Odyssey having magic alien gods??What?Of all the criticisms Odyssey had, this wasn't one of them.
>>743433147> The girlfriendless loser is now avatarfagging with frogsOh how embarrassing.
>>743432849>you were fighting ghosts, there was nobody elseYou were fighting Assassins that Altair viewed as the Templars he killed because of the Apple messing with his mind. You were not fighting ghosts. Likewise, Rodrigo was not fighting multiple Ezios, he was fighting a single Ezio but the Apple tricked his mind into thinking there were multiple because that's how Isu technology works on human brains.>>743433209Yes, it was. It was regularly panned for having the Cyclops, Minotaur, and Medusa as real, tangible beings you could fight.
>>743433261>le frogKek, newfag exposed. Frog website.I accept your meltie and concession, subhuman.
>>743430368The games featured murder of religious figures, denied christian and muslim faith and implied figures like Jesus were just men with alien technology. They needed that warning to excuse themselves of being accused of being serious.
>>743430846Yasuke existed but he wasn't allat
>>743431110The apple of eden specifically remained that, even if the illusions are strong enough to kill someone. Other pieces of eden do other things.
>>743431413>>743431769>You don't kill a single jewsSeveral of the minor assassination targets, mostly in Jerusalem, are clearly Jews.>muslims are constantly humanized while christians are mocked That's not true at all. At least not of AC1. >the scientist in Desmond section constantly tells you the bible is a fictional book. And he's a raving asshole and a major villain who's had you locked up and strapped to the Animus. You're not supposed to be taking cues from him.>The only minority that takes a hit is gay men.I don't remember any in AC1 at all.
>>743429363>Why did losers get so upset about Odyssey having magic alien godsThey did? that's so ridiculous, the entire series is about that. Guess they never saw AC3's ending either
>>743433602Not that anon, but the fat merchant you kill in act 2 of Damascus is indirectly stated to be gay, which is why he's bitter and throws in his lot with Templars due to the societal persecution.
>>743433602There is one gay main target in AC1 who is despised by the people but tolerated due to his status and joined the templars to forsake the religion that despises him.
>>743433781>>743433789Thanks guys. It's been nearly two decades since I've played it, and while it's a powerful game that sticks in your mind, especially if you go in unspoiled, I don't remember everything.
>>743433676>the entire series is about that.No, it's not. The mythological creatures roaming around are not the same as the Isu existing as a concept. They as a whole go from ancient humanlike beings with super math and science using objects that seem like magic because we're like peasants in terms of our knowledge to "Actually magical creatures exist". They literally had to handwave a reason to justify their existence within the world as them being a bunch of corpses an Apple puppets and presents itself as something the viewer would find scary just so they could have them there to fight. Even in Curse of the Pharaohs the gods are because a chick is using an Apple to pretend like the gods exist so people fear them and become more religious rather than slowly secularizing.
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>pretending like the ayylmaos of the original games under their creator are the same as the ridiculous faggots after
>>743429363Problem is the new games want to have their cake and eat it too by both pushing the fantasy elements further while also reducing focus on the modern day plot, those have to be hand in hand to work
> I can accept Aliens and DNA literally holding the memories of your ancestors from a thousand years ago and a secret war between Templars and Assassins and all historic figures like Da Vinci being gay and being told that christians are a joke and Jesus was a cheating bitch who used the apple because CHRISTIANS ARE EVIL>> But i cannot accept a magic creature!!Are you guys for real?
>>743434427The modern day plot nowadays is just there because it is expected to be.
>>743434186This is confusing. Which play is he discussing? I'm pretty sure Hamlet didn't have a Sphynx show up.
>>743434783The odyssey, its a really interesting way at how we look at fantasies
>>743429363The Curse of the Pharaohs was the beginning of the end, and Ubisoft went ball deep with Odyssey.They don't care about keeping up with a coherent world/setting/narrative, everything is allowed as long as they can explain it with either alien technology or drugs.
>>743435027The Odyssey had plenty of magic though. How is the Sphynx out of place in a story where Circe turns men into pigs, and a Cyclops holds them prisoner?Plus, your excerpt is discussing Oedipus, not Odysseus. What's the source of this text, anyway?
>>743435094>They don't care about keeping up with a coherent world/setting/narrative, everything is allowedThat fits with the Assassins' credo: "Nothing is true, everything is permitted."
Creativity bankrupt. People hated the introduction of aliens on fucking Naruto
>>743434430>Are you guys for real?Yes. and the fact you keep harping on them hating Christians is idiotic and shows you've never played the games because in the AC universe every religion is fake. All of them. This is repeated constantly. You even literally have Valhalla making Eivor go to Valhalla, experience Ragnarok, and go "Holy shit this is so retarded" while directly having the main antagonist being a guy you actively help to reform Christianity so that people stop worshiping Isu and instead worship the Trinity.Shay is a Protestant and stays that way during his entire life for crying out loud. It never presents Christianity as bad. Hell, most of the good people in the entire series tend to be Christians actively helping the Assassins or being helped by them. Arno, a staunch atheist, literally helps the priesthood and nuns while taking down the Cult of Baphomet, a Templar-run Satanist club.
ughfarquaad thread
>>743429363You're just wrong.Assassin's Creed 1 & 2 were about a battle between two ancient enemies that has transcended time. The Templars and Assassins have been battling for thousands of years. However, this battle was strictly under the surface and was much more about mystery than anything else.Ass Creed 1 & 2 center around ONE artifact that has the power to influence people. Ass Creed frames history as great people who had access to this artifact and were able to use it for their plans. This is pretty standard National Treasure/Da Vinci Code type stuff. Where there is a secret, hidden history that no one knows about but a select few and you slowly unravel it.Assassin's Creed 2 had a whole ARG thing in the game where you would gather fragments that showed a chopped up video of Adam and Eve seemingly stealing the apple from the garden of eden. Is this fantasy? I mean yeah, but it is literally framed as a strange, crazy conspiracy that you can't believe... but everything you've seen... it's so strange...Basically, the average person in Ass Creed would never know about any of this. To them, they live in the same world as us. That is why it is more acceptable, because the sci-fi elements are kept to the two secret societies.Now it is just like "Yeah, fight a dragon and a unicorn and a minotaur whatever dude that is the same thing."
>>743429363Remember when the FF15 guy showed up in Origins and was all like “sup?”
the magic ball is what ruined assassins creed. every game after the original was bullshit.
>>743435902The best way of phrasing it is that the Apple is a vague golden sphere that lets you control people and the new games have straight up fantasy monsters in them. If the Apple were a literal apple that had the power it would be more in line with what OP is talking about, but it is just a piece of ancient technology.
>>743435945That crossover was still baffling, especially when you take into account the Dead by Daylight and Attack on Titan ones where they actually tried to make them make sense in the world. DBD straight up feels like a part of the Shadows world and they ended up being warped into some alternate dimension or hallucinating whereas in Origins Ardyn just opens his eyes, looks at Bayek, has the Royal Arms drop around him, and then flies away implying that FF15 takes place in the same world and he's flying off to the FF part of it.
>>743436107The monsters are created through technology though. It's a step further, but fits Odyssey.
>>743435329Sadly porn, by tlp. Its really fun for some weird reason
>>743429627Why don't you play games?
>>743435902AC1 was not a battle between ancient enemies, much less in the shadows. Those assassins murdered openly and the fact that Altair's enemies were part of a larger organization was something he discovered along the way, with the assassins(minus Al Mualim) being none the wiser. While 2 has the context you mentioned, the battle between assassins and templars is much less important than Ezio's personal revenge.
>>743436185No it is not. The minotaur is not a M1N0TAUR V1.24, it is a fucking minotaur. You can try to say it is some kind of piece of tech or an alien or whatever, but it is not the same and not even remotely the same.The apple is so small and nondescript that it could be mistaken for some random old piece of jewelry or something. Some treasure. It also is very easy to pretend like it doesn't exist. Even if you saw the apple you wouldn't think anything of it really. People complaining about how "the series always had fantasy!" are completely incapable of telling the difference. It also ruins the subtlety of it too. As I said before, the most the artifact from AC1/2 was doing was giving some kind of influence or control on those around you. Its powers are also vague enough that it is something that can simply be given to different world leaders under different contexts/periods and it all fits. How weird is it that these ancient weirdos made Minotaurs and Gorgons and shit? They're so specific and then, what, they're ONLY on Greece and so that is why Greek people love Minotaurs so much? They didn't just put them everywhere?>>743436462AC1 literally starts with Desmond being used by the Templars to get information from his genes. That sounds like ancient enemies to me when they're figuratively going back in time over 1,000 years for it.
>>743436534>That sounds like ancient enemies to me when they're figuratively going back in time over 1,000 years for it.I'm talking about the past storyline, not the modern day storyline.
>>743436750The modern storyline establishes these two societies have had a battle going on for a long time and then the Altair story helps to explain that and some of what they're fighting for. Back in AC1/2 the modern storyline actually mattered and I thought was pretty interesting, though it obviously got ruined by 3 and dropped after Black Flag, I think.Am I really the only one who sees a difference between:>Some kind of nondescript artifact has been found by some of history's greatest people and was used by them to win influence behind the scenes, but no one knows if it is realvs>Gorgons, Minotaurs, etc
>>743436534>No it is not. The minotaur is not a M1N0TAUR V1.24, it is a fucking minotaur. The minotaur is not the son of a woman and a bull, it's a person warped by Isu technology. Fantastic as it may be, it is just what AC did before brought to it's extreme, which would be out of place in previous games, but fits AC Odyssey.>They're so specific and then, what, they're ONLY on Greece and so that is why Greek people love Minotaurs so much? They didn't just put them everywhere?They're leftovers from when the Isu were around and used names later associated to gods. If you want an explanation for not seeing such creatures so blatantly in other games, we could say they were slain by other people at some point. Odyssey is the earliest entry after all.
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>>743435945what
>>743430770>unironically using the 'OH MY STARS, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!' fallacyYou're on 4chan, grow the fuck up
>>743437034>Am I really the only one who sees a difference between:>Some kind of nondescript artifact has been found by some of history's greatest people and was used by them to win influence behind the scenes, but no one knows if it is realvs>Gorgons, Minotaurs, etcThe apple of eden cast illusions, messes with peoples minds and holds some sort of Isu knowledge. It could have been used to by people who did miracles like Jesus. It is not nondescript and assassins and templars know it is real, just keep it hidden for their own means. The monsters in Odyssey are either weapons or experiments from the age of the Isu that inspired legends from the few who saw them, and whichever ones didnt expire when the Isu were destroyed stayed in isolated places and were killed by warriors like Alexios/Kassandra leaving nothing but unproven and highly undocumented folk tales. It's more absurd but no different other than looking aesthetically more mythical and less technological.
>>743429363The aliens would have been great if they were implemented from the source material, Nova Express, properly. Here the aliens are trying to get a human to stand on a pedestal to stop a solar flare, when the aliens should have been non-three-dimensional celestial criminals who ruled Abstergo to brainwash and drain the world dry in preparation for total exploitation and destruction, while on the run from God. Also when are they gonna get to the point and do a Mayan one?
>>743429937Yeah the weird scifi shit always felt like a bullshit cop out whenever they needed something to happen. Going full historical and completely cutting out the modern Desmond bullshit would have made a better game.
>>743436534>The minotaur is not a M1N0TAUR V1.24, it is a fucking minotaur.
>>743435593>Shay is a Protestant O'Irish are Catholics, m8.
>>743429363I never finished odyssey, the gmae was too lame
>>743438140Supposedly he's a Protestant because of his discussion with Monroe having leanings of that side of the faith. The most concrete answer we know is he is a Christian of some sort, just which way he leans is up for debate.
>>743430219yeah lol
You have people just regurgitating the "every AC character is a reincarnation of a god" shit even though that is very specifically a quirk of Norse gods in AC Valhalla who were active during the game's timeframe.
>>743438613The idea started with AC Black Flag, though the reincarnations being explicitly gods is indeed from Valhalla.
Okay so Assassin’s Creed is about >a mass-media syndicate, board, government, is subliminally controlling the world with predictive programming>they are targeted by Hassan I Sabbah’s assassins’ whose creed are HIS’ last words>who kill wielders of ancient artifacts used to beam authority signals directly into the public controlling their bodies and minds, these artifacts associated with ‘the apple’ and ‘the word’>…and turn out to be alien in origin, the company’s goal is to unearth them all so they may carry out operation total control>so the company develops a dangerous and often lethal technique by which a subject is able to time travel through a process of ancestor projection, and the trick is to slowly achieve total synchronicity by fully synthesizing with the historical subject>so they go back and retrieve the artifact>but the agent within (the subject of the experiment) rats, slips out the back door, and employs this stolen ancient tool and technique to take down the syndicate government >and thwarts the syndicate plan by dissolving in electric waves after fully synthesizing as a true silence-agent, Hassan I Sabbah’s assassinANYONE ENCOUNTERED THIS BEFORE?!ANY READERS IN CHAT???
>>743429363The ayy lmao artifacts were always supposed to be supernatural. You're just a human and you're being exposed to immense outworldly power.Historical characters interacting with the fictional ones is still plausible and in most cases it feels natural, fitting for the records. It's also worth noting that even if the protagonists of the previous games participate in major events they're never doing it as leaders or the sole reason why any of that succeeds, altering the history too much doesn't happen either.Integrating mythical creatures and Gods into the story in Odyssey is what breaks it.And Shadows being an outright fanfiction made just to jerk off a negro is what breaks it in the other way.
>>743439131Well you understand all history is fiction yes?
>>743439131>The ayy lmao artifacts were always supposed to be supernatural.No, they weren't. The second game already established they were just special technology we don't understand.
