Is there even a single MMO that makes good use of underwater zones/content?
>>743435172no because vashj'ir was incredible and the 'community' still threw a meltdown the size of spergnigger mountain
>>743435172Guild wars 2, Maplestory, black desert, archeage
>>743435356>tfw faggots were so gay and retarded we never got a water raid in vash'jir and cata got guttedCouldve had another raid tier between firelands and dragon soul but noooooo
>>743435172you're too young, but kedge keep was pretty fun.
>>743435172>>swimming contentT_T>>flying content:Owhy are primates like this
>>743435717that was was entirely blizzard’s incompetence
>>743435356As much as I'll shit on Cataclysm Vashj'ir was fucking incredible.
every cata zone is a phased linear slog even if you like the aesthetics, the quest designers should all be shot
>>743435172>MMO>goodtrannieslop
>>743435172Sea of Thieves.
>>743435356That was during Cataclysm, right? I remember the time spent in that zone being pretty short. What were the complaints about?>>743435532Underwater content in Archeage is pretty scant and not very fun. Almost everything you're going to be doing is on the surface or land.
>Underwater area>It's actually just five or so big bubbles at the bottom where all the action happens in and the underwater is just a combatless floating void connecting them
>>743435861The deep sea is a dark, scary, almost alien place that can feel claustrophobic. Navigation is slow and difficult. Compare that to the bright, open sky that gives a sense of freedom.
>>743435356AOE underwater is "weird" so gut anything. Was playing GW2 like 12 hours ago and talking about how no mmo has underwater combat or doesn't use it. Vashj'ir was so fucking peak. Blizzard catering to the normie paypigs ruined everything. Which is why I haven't effectively done raid content with guilds and friends since Cata, and I haven't touched end game in an expansion since BFA. "Nerf Heroics in cata, they're too hard, nerf this, nerf that, the underwater zone sucks." It's so fucking tiresome. >>743435717It was Blizzard being Blizzard, not the community. We're lucky to get 1 raid finished on launch now. Neptulion being kidnapped in that Throne of the Tides Dungeons by Ozumat has never been resolved until sort of BFA with Azshara, even then it was handled worse than that RISE OF THE ZANDALARI event where we at least got to know who the troll was in the trailer during BFA for some form of closure. Neptulon and the giant squid were just dropped entirely. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfoCq-RssLkThere's a giant snake in Zul'Drak to set up a troll raid in Wrath as well. Shit just got cut all the time when it made sense to do a raid to tie a zone + dungeon together to one.Cata was so dope thematically but so fucking weak in gameplay everywhere aside from maybe the vanilla raids and the new zone questing. Dungeons were such a fucking disappointment, and later raids were just... not that fun for me (though I didn't do any after Firelands).
>>743435356it's the goddamn SPERGNIGGER MOUNTAIN MELTDOWN
>>743436093>>743436908Probably about not being able to AOE effectively, or perceive depth in movement. This is a community that is unable to not fight in the middle of WSG, keyboard turns all the time, and cant start clicking an area where the flag will drop before it drops, all in the same BG.
>>743435172Guild wars 2 has adequate water combatIts not fun but it exists and it's playable
>>743435861>put head underwater>drownI believe this might have influenced primates in one way or another
>>743437106I find it extremely perplexing that the average person can't think in three dimensional space. Some games can certainly be 'too vertical', but that's more of an issue of the way a player is allowed/able to navigate. For example a lot of games these days like to give players walls/cliffs to slowly climb for no apparent reason beyond padding playtime or slowing down the pace of gameplay.
>>743437569Game?
>>743438532Guild Wars 2
>>743437857>I find it extremely perplexing that the average person can't think in three dimensional spacethere was this space moba called fractured space, I remember than when it came out, I'd get a lot of kills by flying below unsuspecting enemy ships and blasting them apart because most people only looked around, maybe above in some weird instance, but never below
