this will forever be the best GTA game ever made, Rockstar isn't capable of topping their masterpiece with anything new they release
>>743650987GTA IV is absolutely the best GTA game, but Bully is the best Rockstar game.
>>743650987>>743651157genuinely how did they do it? and why did they stop?
>>743650987For me it's San Andreas
>>743651182>how did they do it?Dan Houser.>why did they stop?Dan Houser left.
>>743651182gta games are a reflection of the times they were made in, that's why the magic can't be recreated like time can't be reversed and also why gta 6 will suck
>>743650987it's worse than 3 and 5
>>743651390You are saying we don't have the technology to make games fun and with novel mechanics when it comes to rockstar?
Tries too hard to be a gritty crime drama
>>743651810not technology but culture
>>743650987this game isn't even that goodwhy does /v/ ride it so hard?
>>743652615>performative outrage
>>743650987Why have to avoided porting it?
newspaper articles were good
>>743650987Based>>743651157Based
>>743650987boring ass game. total downgrade from san andreas and that shit ran on 8 MEGABYTES OF RAM.
>>743650987BTW, i was playing the ballad of gay tony and I heard the news station talking about someone called Epstein raping sexually harrassing someonewhat did they know?
>game ends with lady happiness looking down at you judgmentally
>>743653331Third worlder detected
>>743653331No, the port runs at like 4 on max settings
>>743651264He literally left a few years ago and Bully came out 2 decades ago...
>>743653485>lady happinessYou mean Hillary Clinton?
>>743650987I've been replaying it and it's legitimately kino.One of the things I parroted as a teenager from critics was>If Niko is trying to be a good guy, why can the player go on massacres and hit old ladies with his car?Only now, after actually paying attention to the plot instead of listening to Yahtzee, do I realize that that's literally the most retarded complaint ever. Niko isn't a "bad guy trying to be good." He's a man who can either be an unabashed monster or a repentant monster, and the player decides that through mostly diegetic choices the player makes. The only exceptions are the clear moral choices about saving or executing people. It's really about that last question anyway:>How much do you charge to kill people?Apparently $40, considering I ran down that fat bitch so I could buy a new sweater.
>>743653135>buzzwords
>>743651157>bully 2 never because rockstar of david’s jewish urge of selling shark cards to playstation fags
>>743654363>niggerfaggot
>>743650987I tried it and was bored. Quit one hour in.
>Come, Niko, let us have some F. U. -ACK
>>743656015I found it funny how Niko killed the guy over this
>>743650987Genuinely one of the most boring games I have ever played.
Why do 7th Gen kiddies love this game so much? Does it make them feel mature or some shit?
>>743651157bully was boring as fuck
>>743656660>so obsessed with posturing that he can't even fathom the idea of someone liking something he doesn't likegrim
>>743656660It's the only game I'm aware of where the driving actually feels like driving, for one.
>>743657157damn you faggots are insecure
>>743656682 summer /v/ really had the worst takes
it was kinda ahh
>>743651182GTA 5 was made entirely as a reaction to the minority of critics who were annoyed that IV took itself too seriously
Why do people hate on the pegorino/mafia missions?
>>743650987why would you post something so astonishingly based
>lived long enough to see something that was objectively dogshit be lauded and praised by people who were kids when it was released, thus skewing their perceptionThe only valid argument for best GTA is between VC and SA, anything else and you're a zoomer or gen alpha retard.
>>743658086You can tell they were running out of time in making the game and basically rushed through those, they're all "drive to the place and kill the person" without much to them beyond that and you can do it in ten seconds for most of them. You get the impression they probably wanted more missions in total but cut them, which is a problem given that you're supposed to have some sort of sympathy for or understanding of what Peggorino wants in order for the ending to work (esp. the revenge ending) but instead it feels like you hardly know himBiggest proof of this is the Phil Bell vs Ray Boccino choice where Pegorino tells you he doesn't know which to whack and it looks like you're going to make the choice similar to the other choices in the game. Then Pegorino just tells you to kill Boccino.
Did they ever explain what the fuck this was supposed to be?
What is anon's favorite GTA clone?Mafia, Sleeping Dogs, Saint's Row, Watch Dogs, anything else?
>>743658817Mafia 2 was nice but suffers the same thing as GTA iV where it's obviously incomplete. I wish Saint's Row 2 would get a modern port but they would probably ruin it with a shit remaster. I don't like what they did to Saints Row after 2.Honestly though, they all have their own strengths but they still can't beat GTA itself.
>>743658432Missions are pretty basic but I do like for the most part you can tackle them however you want, unlike V where I'm forced into an exact script. I say for the most part. I'm still in the middle of replaying it so it might become more scripted in the later missions. I also like how some missions have variations if you enter the trigger differently.
Best thing about IV is that it's a perfect encapsulation of the pre-financial crisis, pre-smartphone US. Feels very genuine and immersive in a way where VC and SA aren't because you can tell they were pastiches made after the era they cover.
>>743650987It was their magnum opus and RDR 1 was their goodbye letter.>>743651157It was nice. Too much of a wasted potential though.>>743651264That bald faggot was also responsible for GTA 5 and RDR 2, so no. I'm glad I wasted more than two hours listening to that literally who's podcast where he interviewed this bald faggot. Completely exposed himself as a midwit wannabe filmmaker and Hollywood reject.>>743656015IMMA BOUT DONE WITH YOU HOMO
>>743658817Sleeping Dogs.>>743659587That's another big part of GTAIV's appeal to me. I can't think of anything else that captures the 2000s as well. It was great going back to it and hearing faggot every other sentence, because that really was the vernacular.
Saints Row 2 > Grand Theft Auto 4
>>743650987They won't even try.Undead Nightmares multiplayer modes were more fun and creative than most of the shit in GTA Online and they can't even do team-friendly co-op shit like that. They're fucking lazy.But their fanbase is blacks, indians, and teenagers or younger so all they have to do is ship a game with functional everything and a new map and they can probably milk the cow until GTA 8.
V is better.
Has anyone tried the RTX Remix mod? It surprisingly looks pretty good. I want to get a new playthrough going with it but I can't get some of my simple and essential mods to work. This game is still fucked in most other regards
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>>743650987best ragdoll physics bar none, gta v felt too stiff
I did not mind driving in GTAIV. It was very engaging the entire time so it was always fun.
>>743650987why have so many people been jerking off about this pee and poo toned game lately
>>743661262It was their first GTA so it's forever the best GTA. I'm the same with Vice City.
>>743660831performance rapist thats not worth it imo
ugly brown and bloom garbage
>>743661321Mybforst GTA was the PC version of 2.I still enjoy IV greatly.
>>7436623474 is not brown, TLAD is and TBOGT is colourful
>>743651157overrated as shit 90% of its gameplay is literally just sprinting from point A to point B
>>743661321at least vice city doesn't take place in liberty city. i hate liberty city.
>>743662606Liberty city with countryside would be peak
>>743662660I'm sick of America, I wish it was in Tokyo or something but "muh guns"
>>743662980Kys weeb. They used America because America is the easiest place to parody (especially nowadays with Trump and the Epstein Class)... Plus if they set a game in Japan and did parody the culture, all you stupid weebs would freak out and hate it for making fun of a culture that hates you and doesn't want you appropriating them
>>743662980I feel like fukuoka would be a cooler place for a GTA game
Gta4 was so good. Driving was actually engaging rather than the arcade dogshit that was 5.Hours of fun making your own fun both in offline and online. Getting the sultan rs and being untouchable, chaos at the airport, racing to weapons pick ups. Doing parkour across the rooftops. Jump in and just have fun. Gta5 online takes you 30 minutes to load between constant screens to listen to some pozzed faggy dialogue and do a 10 second mission in order to get 2 bucks to buy some ammo to actually have fun fucking around with. Heists are interesting enough on the first go around is the only positive thing I'll give it.
It's always going to be Vice City for me, but IV is fucking great. San Andreas and GTA2 are also excellent.
>>743663157no we wouldn't, us weebs would laff and laff at the suicide and pervert jokes
>muh realistic driving
>>743653172>>743653268the ingame internet was somehow more interesting and detailed than what V offered, like having to go to dating websites to set up dates and being able to download phone themes and ringtones. small but immersive details
Modders have been improving this game. Also it's relaxing to drive slowly with your controller listening to some radio station
>>743670853I'm surprised rockstar never did a remaster just to clean it up for pc and get it on ps4/5They treat their prior works very strangely I can't understand what goes on over there. Surely it'd be financially sensible to get a few guys to smooth that and the psp games over. I'm sure they'd sell 5 million copies of gta4 remaster at full price too lol
>>743659587>Best thing about IV is that it's a perfect encapsulation of the pre-financial crisis, pre-smartphone US. Feels very genuine and immersive>>743659797>I can't think of anything else that captures the 2000s as well. It was great going back to it and hearing faggot every other sentence, because that really was the vernacularWhy just make shit up to suit your own autism? This doesn't happen every other sentence unless maybe you're talking about Ballad of Gay Tony. Who is just one character constantly saying "fag" and "spic". I hate IVfags so much. IV and V suck so much dick and is when the series became so boring.
>>743651157Probably the last time the words 'fun' and 'engaging' were used in the design document for a Rockstar game.
>>743661262Because they know once GTA 6 releases most people will finally flush this turd out of their memory. Even though I do think 6 will suck as well. IVfags are unbelievably sensitive to criticism.
>>743672196PS2 nostalgiafaggots are so fucking annoying
>>743658210It's objectively the best in the series, and no amount of nostalgia goggles millennial faggots whining about the driving filtering them will change thatThe PS2 games' core gameplay aged like shit
I don't understand this LARP.
>>743672298I'm a nostalgiafag for everything. Because as games get more polished the devs adhere to philosophies and design guidelines that become a "FORMULA", which means they strip out a lot of creative design and content that was present in the experimental, jank years of game development. Kind of like how animators devolved into tracing model sheets in the 80's instead of actually drawing anything new.
>>743658210GTA is the bestGTA 2 is the bestGTA 3 is the best GTA VC is the vestGTA SA is the bestThere is no contradiction here
>>743650987V already trounced this overrated pile of crap 10 times over. Been there and done that shit.
its a great game but calling it the best is silly niko is a retarded character who cries about muh war and muh crimes he did while he still goes out of his way to kill people for money with no hesitation, then hes shocked when what goes around comes around. its not even like hes trapped or anything, he was stuck for a little while but he had plenty of chances to let go and be freenearly every mission is boring as fuck and is literally just go point A to point B while killing some people. theres not even that much intrigue in most missions, you are just sent to assassinate some people, there are plenty of filler missions without much build up to the next, so when you go into an actual real mission it feels sudden and jarringnot being able to swim underwater or drive planes was a letdown from GTA SAits not really a bad game, it has massive flaws and although it has some great points like the dark atmosphere and more realistic approach but those who call it the best just have nostalgia goggles on
>>743672803>>743672803>i don't like a specific character starring in a specific workwow... moving on
I DON'T LIKE LENNY FROM OF MICE AND MEN. HE'S SO SOFT BUT THEN HE KILLS SOMEBODY? AND THEN HIS BUDDY SHOOTS HIM, WHAT THE FUCK? WHAT A STUPID CHARACTER
>The worst Gta game is good actuallyUh okay?
>>743650987Why couldn't they just make this game with Max Payne 3 shooting mechanics? The combat is still abysmal. Otherwise it's cool.
>>743650987VC and SA shit on this game.I remember how disappointed people were when it came out. Now /v/ sucks it off because crowbcat said to.
>>743658817I had more fun with Sleeping Dogs than I did with both GTA 4 and 5.
>>743673605is this a bot post? I made plenty of valid criticism not only about niko but also the game itself
>>743662569Name one Rockstar game that can't be simplified to that.
>>743650987V mogged this garbage
>>743664570Road boats were great.Reminded me of driver 2.I think only thing I disliked was too much traction control.
>>743673875Filtered brainlet lol
>>743650987Based, I put it on par with San Andreas, easily the two best games in the series
>>743675162Everyone who wasn't a retarded goyllennial loved it
>>743658086I like it actually; I just wish there were more of them. Felt like the mafia dynamic is undercooked, that's all. Ray got moved into the background despite all he's done for Niko, Pegorino's downfall being too quick, all that stuff.
>>743672803Yeah as much as I like the game, I kinda hate Niko. All the shit he's done and the dude had the gall to think he could just get away with it. He deserved both of his endings.
>>743650987GROUNDED ATMOSPHERIC UNINTENDED PERIOD PIECE KINO
>>743677447Craziest part to me is that 5 is also starting to get that period piece feeling when I play it now.>Every girl was almost a hippie>Yoga was getting popular but wasn't institutionalized in gyms so it was all happening in people's homes and yards>Physical signs with letters were still commonplace over digital signs, but every single one was out of date and had letters falling off because they were phasing out>Obama hope poster style>Nikes branding from the era>Michaels kid is a CODbro
>>743679247GTA VI is going to be so schizo attempting the same thing. Late 2010s-early 2020s culture shifted so much, to the point I'm wondering if some of the shit they wrote is already out of date
>>743679247>>743679416I always felt that GTA V was already outdated in this regard by the time it released. CoD jokes and social media jokes had already been run into the ground by 2013 and that was 90% of GTA V's cultural references.
>>743679503GTA IV had the same thing too, like Reggaetron was already dead as a trend by the time the game came out. Slav radio was kino though
>>743679416I genuinely have no idea what GTA6 could possibly do to recreate that feeling of being on the cultural pulse given that monoculture/culture at all has essentially died in the 2020s.
>>743680090I guarantee the internet in VI is gonna be worse than V's and that was already pretty shit but I assumed that was the point since the real internet started devolving into garbage around the point V came out.
>>743680238>Your in game phone gets 6 "scam likely" calls you have to decline a day
>>743680317definitely getting a reddit-like site alsogee I can't wait for anti-vaxxer jokes and nothing for the left side even though GTA used to try to balance things out. GTA IV makes fun of both sides of the fence, but Republicans definitely get more of it
>>743680442I mean it was the Bush era it's hard not for them to get more of it. I felt like V is almost exclusively lampooning rich liberal tendencies
>>743680515I just wanna see Donald Love as president or something. Granted that would break the whole "3D characters don't exist in HD" outside of the radio stations like Lazlo suddenly showing up in person in V
>>743656660it was a technological marvel at its time>>743653172>it's not just x, it's yoh no no no
>>743680592I'm not sure that is an official rule Rockstar follows or they just do it sparingly to keep the artistic integrity of the 3D era games as they would have to redesign whatever characters they bring back in HD but Lazlo isn't the only exception, Cris Formage, the Epsilon leader first appears in SA on radio then in person in V same as Jack Howitzer, that action movie actor. Madd Dog and OG Loc's album artwork also appear in HD.
>>743681432>Madd Dog and OG Loc's album artwork also appear in HDI just took that as more of a cameo, like the Vinewood Stars listing a lot of 3D characters. Didn't remember the other guys, granted Lazlo is the most memorable. Now that I think about it, showing Donald Love will either lead to Trump trying to shut them down and he gets patched out or Trump loving him and making more AI-generated memes about him saving GTA America.
>>743680592I think the elephant in the room is that V absolutely captured the era of "the calm before the culture war", just like real 2013, people were chilling and interacting who would be at each other's throats 3 years later. GTA6 is absolutely 100% without a fucking doubt going to be the culture war GTA but because of the sheer length of the games development it's coming at a point where fatigue is so incredibly high on the topic that I don't think there's a single soul who wants to endlessly hear about the culture war for a whole GTA game.It's also hard to imagine the writers tackling the subject without their biases on display to the point of being distracting/not super enjoyable
>>743650987The Vibe is one of the best GTA stations ever imo:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlgp-jjHzC0
GTA V is more fun, but none of them are special when it comes missions.
>>743681681VI is definitely going to be obnoxious to a degree, hearing there's a pride parade kinda shows that. I wouldn't be at all surprised that the mission that shows that starts with the main characters "owning the chuds" that will inevitably protesting. The only way that sequence won't be annoying is if the pride parade is full of hyper sexualized drag queens trying to get kids to join the parade.
>>743656660baby’s first serious business story. it’s usually 14 to 17 year olds that love it because it makes them feel mature when they can find the same shit told better in the high school literature they refuse to read
>>743680090in gta6 jason and lucia will have a large social media presence and the choices you make during missions will change their reputation on the in game instagram/tiktok you can already see it in the trailers
>>743682031I'm signing Lucia up for notOnlyfans the moment I can
>>743650987zoomies will never understand that this game was a massive downgrade to SA. We get it, it was your first big boy game.
>>743662980>what if we did GTA but removed everything GTA about itwhy even ask R* to make this go play yakuza
>>743681991>feeling intellectually threatened by a game taking itself seriouslyStick to GTA5 lol it's more your speed
>>743682137But it was an upgrade on SA in every way. San Andreas' gameplay aged like shit
>>743681963you know that story about pride parades is not true right. it’s literally based on nothing, like you’re one of the culture war NPCs they will likely make fun of who believes whatever they read
>>743682205>dude after killing people for money after 40 hours of gameplay, I find out, I’m also le bad guy tooriveting stuff
>>743672490Imagine saying something aged poorly to defend GTA IV
>>743656682it really wasn't
>>743682356This but, unironically
>>743682296all I know it's a rumor that hasn't been denied or confirmed at all, but I would legit love for them to make fun of me and others for believing what they hear on the internet. They've been commenting on shit like that since GTA III I'm pretty sure. Definitely made a bunch of jokes like that in IV.
>>743650987YELLOW CAR!
>>743681963This is going to be a mess regardless of what they do because nobody is on the same page anymore culturally. The way they make fun of different groups in GTA was always pretty reserved in my opinion. Like they never actually go for a full on verbalized fried chicken joke in San Andreas, for example. Ballad of Gay Tony hinges more on the known absurdity of gay male social circles than it does in depicting them unflatteringly. The pedophile jokes should be about Epstein IMO. "Everyone at the pride parade should be a pedophile" sounds like "please GTA6 please acknowledge my right wing talking point to legitimize it". San Fierro had pride flags in San Andreas. The people in the pride parade should be silly, because ultimately it should be an excuse for the player to need to beat up a guy in a gimp suit cause he owes someone money and it not working because he's into it
>>743682398San Andreas gunplay objectively aged like shit. So did the terrible AI, the half baked RPG elements, the crappy gimmick missions. Meanwhile IV is still the gold standard of driving, gunplay, physics, etc. in the open world genre. So yeah, I will say that
>>743681963in gta 5 R* removed troon npcs from spawning in front of a gay bar either because players were killing them too much or for stereotype reasons so I doubly they will add pride parades in 6, maybe only in a cutscene where you can't harm them
>>743650987Revisionist history, GTAIV is still the worst GTA game.
No matter what GTA6 does it won't feel right culturally because it's releasing on the precipe of a big change. GTA6 is going to release into a world of data centers and AI surveillance and it came about so quickly that it's just physically impossible that's accounted for in the plot. GTAV felt like the world until Trump's candidacy. GTA6 is going to feel dated day 1. Even Epstein becoming mainstream knowledge was in the last year the development can only be so flexible
>>743682468of course it wouldn’t be confirmed or denied, it’s completely made up. I can say that you go up to space and fight aliens at the end of GTA6 and it has as much merit as the pride parade stuff.
>>743682816gta6 takes place in the scum capital of the world, the main thing it will probably fail at is to portray how scummy that place is
>>743682247>worst map in the entire series>worst radio>worst characters (they actually thought Kate was final choice material)>only two good missions in the entire game>half of the features of san andreas removed and replaced with... bowling and darts minigames>all that shit just got brought back in V anywayThere's a reason that V took off so far and VC and SA are always fondly remembered while IV praise exists solely in the armpits of the internet.
>>743682548Objectively wrong on all points. Is amazing how zoomers can be this retarded
>>743682416MGS already did this plot point better 10years before GTA4 without being as stupid, because Snake worked for the government so he felt like what he was doing was right because he was told it was right. Niko is a criminal, why the fuck would he think he was anything but a bad person, he’s just retarded. Kojima isn’t even that great of a writer
>>743682991Sorry but GTA accurately gives that honor to New York City
>>743682548Your gold standard was outdated at launch. Even crackdown did all of that shit better a year prior.>gunplayOkay this is bait.
I miss Cops n Crooks
>>743682548>crappy gimmick missionsTo be fair, every Rockstar game falls victim to this. They like their missions to be so overly railroaded and handholdy that they'll still be introducing new 'mechanics' for one mission 30 hours into the game that will never be used again. It's genuinely bad game design.
>>743683012IV has a lot of good missions and brought the gameplay out of the stone age. San Andreas is an incredibly well designed open world but the shooting feels like an early PS1 title.
desu growing up is realizing literally every gta sucks lmao. im not even saying that to be contarian they are all so fucking boringbut i will attest, gta 4 was fun when i was 10 yrs old. i would get drunk by taking michelle to the bar and i would get us in a car crash together while speeding. was kino. mid game overall though.red dead 2 is rockstars magnum opus but if we are being fr that is actually a low fucking bar if you consider how bad boring and bland all their other games are. even gta 5 is really not that good.popularity =/= quality
It's cool how immersive the world was with its physics. I thought it was also a well written game, better written than GTA 5 was anyway.But fuck the controls were bad. Both driving and on-foot. It was such a sluggish and clumsy game to actually play.
>>743683012>worst map in the entire seriesBest map in the series>worst radioBest radio stations in the series, it filters utter plebs like you. SA's radio is mega overrated>worst characters (they actually thought Kate was final choice material)Literally the only great cast of characters in the series. Surely you can't think the cardboard cutouts of the PS2 games or the endlessly cynical assholes of V are better>only two good missions in the entire gameBest missions in the series, a return to the classic formula with a focus on core gameplay instead of gimmick trash like stacking boxes with a forklift or stacking containers with a crane>half of the features of san andreas removed and replaced with... bowling and darts minigamesBy features you mean half baked RPG elements and 500 bland minigames that you did once for the novelty and then never again. The dating literally started in San Andreas and it was much worse in that game, not that you'd know since you're clearly a poser and clearly haven't played those games in 20 years (like every SA nostalgiafag)>There's a reason that V took off so far and VC and SA are always fondly remembered while IV praise exists solely in the armpits of the internet.IV is easily the most fondly remembered GTA these days, people are going back to it, discussing its gameplay systems and appreciating what a masterpiece it always was, you have videos with millions of views praising it. Meanwhile SA had a resurgence of memes back in 2016 but that's it, nobody really talks about its gameplay today (because it sucks)
>>743683620i loved it because the phyics and controls make the action messy, it's too sleek in V. V feels like a michael bay movie but IV is like no country for old men
>>743683620this mod essentially remasters the game and makes it a lot more playable https://github.com/ThirteenAG/GTAIV.EFLC.FusionFix
>>743683729holy TRVKE
>>743652615GTA IV came out in 2008 so for all the zoomers on this board it was the first GTA they experienced on release.That's also why they dickride the broken vehicle physics and the brown-gray color filter even though every other GTA did both better.
>>743683012Worst radio is fucking hands down 5 it has almost nothing memorable and what's decent is buried under the sheer volume
>>743683168>Your gold standard was outdated at launch. Even crackdown did all of that shit better a year prior.Lol no
I genuinely don't know how they went from the gunplay in GTA IV, Red Dead Redemption and Max Payne 3 to the absolute dogshit that's in GTA V.
Alright fags what's music would you add to each game to help capture the era better? >5 Get LuckyCall Me Maybe>4Low Girlfriend>3Darude Sandstorm but unironically it was everywhere back then>Vice CityWalk Like An Egyptian>San AndreasAround the World
>>743684341I added my personal list, independence radio station ftw.
>>743684439Yeah but is
>>743651157Most nostalgia glasses game ever.>>743656682TRVKE
>>743650987Yeah I agreeIt had a great campaign, great city setting, only downside was no parachutes/tanks or jets. The former two were fixed in BoGT thankfully.I love GTAIV. It's really perfect
>>743651157>blocks your path
I can still remember my disappointment when I realised that there is, in fact, no MGS codec calls in this game and that tutorial prompt about "optional phone calls" was a complete lie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHOJBtZhKQoIV's radio is so fucking good, I can't believe plebs hate it
>>743685247Yeah it felt very unfinished and way too ambitious for what they could actually make, still love it though.
>>743650987Nope it's1. Red Dead Redemption2. LA Noire3. GTA San Andreas>>743651157>bullyincredibly overrated.
>>743685247It's not exactly the same, but you do have optional phone calls after certain missions, you also have a crazy amount of optional conversations during friend hangouts, not to mention alternate dialogue for every single mission in the game if you fail and retry. It's a crazy amount of detail
>>743685837YOU KILLED MY FRIENDS? FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS!?!?
>>743683729TRVKE
>>743661179>he forgot to greentext>or he doesn't know how
>>743683968it's actually mind boggling how fucking terrible and unfun the shooting is in 5.
>>743688083they removed the physics that was in gta4. that's why it's less fun to shoot stuff, they barely react to anything. it can be modded back in though.
>>743650987insufferable piece of shit, gta died with san andreas
>>743675501Driving is fun though, running isn't
>>743687928I was being sincere
>>743658210It's funny actually playing SA and seeing how delusional and nostalgia-blinded you retards are.If anything, SA is the casualization of classic GTA. Missions are much easier, much more railroaded, much more cinematic, and the game constantly tutorializes and holds your hand, and the RPG stat mechanics are basically pure fluff. I can see if you like III and VC just due to their arcadey nature, but IV and V are basically a straight across the board improvement from SA.
>>743684816>Built a table tennis game to test out the new engine for the next GTA game>Next GTA game features multiple mini games>Table Tennis isn't one of them
if this is really to scale gta6 will be the most boring map ever, just procedurally generated green areas of nothing, similar to gta5 but worse
>>743651157Based and true. It's literally the only game of its kind & that makes me sad. We need more school sim games.
>>743658210GTAIV has>better story>better writing>better characters>better controls >better gunplay>better physics >better driving and car handling>better car damage and deformation>much more intuitive driving controls (R2/L2 instead of X and O)>better police/wanted system >better radio>better side activities >better atmosphere>better world design and immersion>can fast travel with taxis instead of having to constantly drive from one end of the map to the other>interiors can actually be entered in real-time instead of being segmented zones with loading screens>no RPG stat grinding bloat crapYou're a fucking retard
>Mission where you have to infiltrate a law firm and assassinate the most Jewish lawyer imaginable>The law firm is called Goldberg, Ligner, and Shyster>The only reason Niko's able to even kill his target is because he gets brought on as a diversity hireMan, I miss the old Rockstar.
>>743688604Why do they always have to go overboard with the reflections? This car looks like it's made of bronze.
>>743689573
>>743689587they never go the extra effort to correctly setup the materials so they don't reflect in such a way. or maybe they just think "everything is reflective therefore rtx works correctly".
>>743683729absolute gigachad.
>>743689424RDR2 did a good job being diverse despite being all wilderness. North is mountains, middle is flat grass lands, south is swamp and then there’s about 8 towns of various sizes outside of Vice City. Port Gellhorn has its own police department so it’s an actual city along with the keys as well
>>743651810The technology and ability is there, but the six layers of Karen management above that will make sure it's woke slop
>>743687928>>743689224Aren't you that one anon that was seething in that Halo thread from a while ago and posting gay Sangheili art?
>>743690350the north side of rdr2 is really boring, barely any npcs. there's an achievement that wants you to have 250$ bounty in all parts of the map but it's almost impossible to do that in he north side because there are not enough people there to rack up such a bounty.
What are some other games millennials disliked but zoomers came to enjoy years later?
>>743690892I've seen this one get its flowers lately
>>743690892>millennials disliked GTAIVWhy are you retarded?
>>743691280they didn’t dislike it, but it was more criticized back then compared to now. MGS2 is no different, it did well critically, and financially.
>>743651182Reminder that everyone shit on GTA 4 at the time for the same reason people still love it now. People were complaining that it was too serious and boring coming right after San Andreas and previous GTA's
>>743682816GTA 6 has been in development for so fucking long I have a feeling most of the satire they wrote for that is already gonna be out of date when (if?) it finally comes out
I don't get the whole >hur dur this is pretentious and takes itself too seriouslycritique, sure the game doesn't have the same amount of hollywood action movie missions as previous releases but the game itself has plenty of jokes and is pretty silly overall
>>743651182the microtransaction jew
>>743690510I'm not the laughing gif Samus poster. I also never played Gaylo so I wouldn't be hanging out in those threads.
LET'S GO BOWLING
>>743694571My bad. For context: there was this Halo thread from a while ago where some anon was having a meltdown over something I can't remember and he signed all of his posts with male Sangheili posing in thongs and stuff.I just figured since you keep posting Samus pics, you were him and just moved onto some new autistic hyper fixation that wasn't as gay.
>>743650987GTA III is the best GTA ever made.
>>743695058>>743695107>>743695247sovl
>>743694928Lmao. Sounds like the AI Trump Thong poster on /pol/
2008 was such a kino year
>>743681681You have to wonder how much of the delay was Rockstar desperately trying to scrub outdated 2020-era woke shit out of the game. But I bet most of it is baked into the main story and impossible to remove.The irreverance and frat bro culture that made GTA special no longer exists at the company.
>>743656660Airport + bazookas, all you need to know, chum
>>743695846R* could not give less of a fuck about this man. This place keeps jerking off about how RDR2 is woke, that even with this cope to excuse it selling a fuck ton, people here will still complain that GTA6 is too woke
>>743650987My least favorite GTA. I liked it when it released, dont like it nowadays very much. Small world, grim, doomer friendly, far fewer activities... yeah, I pass. GTA SA remains the best GTA
>>743656682TRUTH NUKEit's slop
>>743696027>R* could not give less of a fuck about this manYou are coping hard.
>>743696170I talking about being afraid of “go woke go broke”. It’s not a real thing when there’s substance behind the product because online chuds think fucking everything is woke.
>>743658210VC is carried HARD by the soundtrack. There's one strip of neon lit V I B E S, then its just a small ass mapSan Andreas is the actual bane, it's a Three Act story with a middling second act that stretches out to around 60% of your time. >muh San FierroAss>muh woozieBoring>muh catalina and le heggin CLAUDE?!?!waste of time and fanservicy>da troothBoring>mike torinoBoring>las venturasBoringAll of that to wind up back in the hood except this time there's nothing memorable. DJ Pooh wrote the opening and after that the scotts had the impossible task of making things cool when the coolest part was already written. GTA 4 is the best because at the very least, it's narratively consistant. Niko makes at most $300,000 and the "LE CRAZIEST" thing he ever does is jump off a bike onto a moving helicopter.
>>743696074>GTA SA remains the best GTADie you nostalgia blind retardSee >>743689557
>>743696390No one thinks GTA will go broke, you dumb ESL retard, it's already made a profit. They think the game will be castrated shit, and they're correct.
>>743696460i agree san fierro and las venturas were bad>the truth boringdisagree>mike toreno boringdisagree
>>743658210>The only valid argument for best GTA is between VC and SAIII was the best GTA
>>743696506No it’s the retarded belief that online culture war retards here think R* is so scared of them that they delayed the game to rewrite everything. It’s just embarrassing
>>743696390Funny how when you were it winning it was "Everything is political!" and "White silence is violence!" but now that you're on the back foot you vacillate between pretending woke never happened and celebrating wildly when people grimace through woke shit in a massive blockbuster.
>>743696476LMFAOOO this has to be fucking parody
>>743696531The truth is just dude weed lmao, he overstays his welcomeMike Torino is the introduction to everything wrong with GTA 5; bombastic mission impossible assignments that go beyond street crime. Heists should be the peak.
>>743696682>bombastic mission impossible assignments that go beyond street crimehave you played GTA III and VC?
>>743696604>they're not scared of youNope, they're scared of you since your embarrassing ideology caused the biggest flop of all time. Shortly before the game was inexplicably delayed lmaooooo
>>743660831It looks insanely good when you grab all the modded textures with PBR. Anyone saying it's shit are upset their AMD card or GTX 1060 can't run it. The RTX remix version uses the complete edition version which breaks a lot of mods. It's a shame a lot of those mods didn't get updated.
>>743696604>online culture war retardsWhat a strange way to describe yourself.
>>743650987zoomie's first GTA
>>743696910Can't you downgrade it? I've always hated how the myriad versions of IV basically forced you to choose between visuals or mods.
>>743696640None of the actual woke shit ever did well. And it was never popular. This schizophrenia however has mutated into everything is woke now and it’s becoming an increasing humiliation ritual when things deemed woke here(when they’re actually not) does well. There’s so many countless games that have the Type A\B shit that have been hits that just do well that most people here don’t even think it’s enough of a factor for a game to do badly. RDR2 is considered woke here but that has not affected it one bit. I remember people shitting their pants over peach being a girlboss and the mario movie then did gangbusters at the box office and that shit disappeared. I mean the Odyssey is the newest example, and then GTA6 is gonna come out, everyone here is gonna call it woke and it’s gonna sell a bunch.
>>743696917I’m not dumb enough to think R* delayed GTA6 over drumpf
>>743696981There might be work arounds but im not sure.
>>743696790I dont remember Claude or Tommy breaking into area 69 and breaking out with a jetpack that becomes a permanent unlocked vehicle.
>>743679503We have seen some of the cultural jokes in GTA6 from the leak and one of them was about Facebook. So yeah it might feel a bit dated or at least run into the ground.
>>743697245It wasn’t about facebook it was about the ceo of facebook that got killed in GTAV and how it was a conspiracy
>>743650987Fuckoff with your boring slop. The series was dead if not for gtav.
>>743697339Ah right that was it. Yeah i can see 6 going with a lot of trendy conspiracy stuff. I think it might be a bit too late in development for Ai/Data center jokes.
>>743697057>woke was never popular.There it is lol. I think my least favorite aspect of leftists is you literally cannot have a conversation without lying. And it's always lies about the most obvious facts one can discern with their own eyes. Genuinely subhuman behavior.
>>743650987Nice contrarian opinion, did a shill shituber give it to you?
>>743697229what about destroying an entire building under construction with a toy helicopter
>>743697417They're already doing it in gtao, the latest update cutacene has your fixer Raf joking about how your new Gen Z art forger has a photographic memory like Eyefind "before it was all ai porn".Based on how they treated Yong-Rae, I have low hopes for R* being able to connect with Gen Z and Gen a
>>743696668No rebuttal, kys retard
>>743697472Yeah you’re not getting my point, you have this conversation mapped out in a certain way and it’s making you look retarded, companies doing something they think is popular =/= popular. It just wasn’t, woke shit was tolerated but it wasn’t popular, most normal people did not care for it.
>>743650987the most iconic, influential and recognizable GTA games are Vice City and San Andreas. That will never change. GTA4 was just a fart in the wind, the game everyone forgot about.
>>743697057>shove woke shit into everything>people notice and firmly reject it >It never happened! You're crazy! Why are you still talking about thi-YES YES YES A TRANNY IS IN THE ODYSSEY FOR THREE MINUTES HAHAHA TAKE THAT CHUDS YOU LOST YOU LOST YOU LOS--I mean, I'm just so tired of this whole culture war grift....
>Vice Citybest time parody>San Andreasmost fun>IVbest story
>>743697576The content for GTA6's story was probably finished a year or even 2 years ago. It's likely just been polish, testing, getting the systems right etc. Getting actors back for VA and mo-cap is something devs avoid unlike common Hollywood reshoots. They might have done some key reshoots if they felt the story needed it. At best you might get a one liner datacenter joke they snuck in there but an actual data center mission is unlikely.
>>743697715-woke happened -it was tolerated but it was never really popular among the general populace -but it wasn’t enough to ruin something with actual merit to it at least financially speaking
>>743697637>all companies, media, and artforms doing something =/= popularYou're doing the thing again lol. It must be so ingrained in you to lie that you don't even realize you're doing it.
>>743650987Vice City is the best GTA game hands down, doesn’t waste your time with a bunch of extra BS like San Andreas. Doesn’t have whiny ethnic Albanian or whatever the fuck Nico is, and the stupid dating gimmick and cell phone shit. GTA V is easily the worst though with Trevor.With Vice City Tommy Vercetti is a bad motherfucker, no whining about his mommy or the hood like CJ, no whining about war and immigration like Nico. He’s just a piece of shit and proud of it.Plus Vice City is short and sweet with exotic cars everywhere.
>>743695058>>743695107>>743695247brownslop
>>743697985I mean are you retarded, yes, just because a company does something doesn’t mean it’s popular among normal people.
>>743697929>woke happened, it was tolerated That's all it takes.>but it was never really popular among the general populaceIrrelevant. People went aiong with it and enabled it through their passivity, like all atrocities.Now they pretend it never happened, or it wasn't that bad, or they were just following orders, depending on which way you pin them down in the conversation.
>>743697929It was popular among women besides the trans stuff, which is the main thing getting mainstream backlash with even leftist parties retreating from their pro trans positions all because trannies started making karen uncomfortable. Women ruin politics.
>>743662464Bump that contrast, nigga. Jesus.
>>7436624644 is really an ugly looking game. People pretending it looks good and that RTX Remix or Icenhancer ruined it's looks are fucking kidding themselves.
>>743698156>just because we pushed our ideology in video games, movies, TV shows, cartoons, books, comic books, tabletop games, music, advertising, food, beer, sports, the government, public infrastrcture, street names, schools, holidays, and medicine DOESN'T mean it was popular!The lying little freak can't help himself.
>>743698378It was never popular enough to support itself, it failing is more of a correction that the average person really doesn’t care about this stuff. If something big is being made it will live or die based on the quality of the thing itself. Sure if something leans hard on grifting the left or right it can make some culture war bucks but it will never compare to the success of just being a good product
>>743698646you might just be too stupid to grasp what popular means man, you simply are too stupid to even understand the conversation
>>743697929The only successful woke works latched themselves to already popular IPs like Spider-Man, Baldur's Gate, etc. Original woke works were the lowest-grossing in history. That's how parasites work.
>>743698898>already popular IPs>Baulder's GateYeah no, BG isn’t a nothing franchise but BG3 was self published for a reason because it was a dead franchise
>>743698716>lies>gets proven wrong>"y-you're stupid!!!!"The facade of intellectuals, the temperment of toddlers.
>>743699242here I highlighted what popular means since you think it means “done widely” for some reason.
>>743699013>we wuz just a humble indie sequel to one of the greatest RPGs of all time kek
>>743699405WotC wouldn’t even fund the project, so so much for the greatest RPG of all time
>>743699337I see we've reached the semantic pilpul stage of leftist discourse lmao
>>743699447>Take-Two won't pay me to make GTA 7 so the IP is basically nothing
>>743699880well the difference is that R* would sue me if I tried to make GTA7 because they didn’t give me permission to
>>743699640all of these definitions point to the public wanting it which proves my point. So unless you consider companies the majority, you seem to be wrong
>>743650987Can you play this game on PC without the Rockstar DRM? I'd like try it out but I'm not making a 3rd party account.
>>743689573>>The only reason Niko's able to even kill his target is because he gets brought on as a diversity hireI’m pretty sure one of the three lawyers was black too
>>743701232not in any legal ways that is for sure
>>743698646truly a transformer
Fuck it I'm gonna replay gtaiv for the first time in years, it's weird to think I was a kid playing it, might be better now I'm an "adult"
>>743703350Yeah, bowling with your cousin hits different when you're an adult.
>>743697532Lmfao it was a building under construction, not even the same thing. The most bizzare thing to happen to Tommy was actual voodoo
>>743651157anyone know if they fixed the latency on the ps4/5 port? If not I'll just emulate on pc.
>>743703350Niko is a pretty relatable character as an adult>wants to move on from his past and start fresh but it keeps catching up with him>hustles around and does odd jobs to make a name for himself>has humble dreams and aspirations but they are always just out of reach>hangs out with coworkers, still more like acquaintances than actual friends>has close family who doesn’t listen but you know they want what’s best for you
GTA 4 is the only game I've replayed like 5 times and I'm currently in the process of replaying it again with fuzionfix on pc. Previously played it on xbox 360 and then series x via back compat. Pure soul: the game
>>743707242I heard fusion fix improves the graphics but also makes it run worse. Does it at least fix the stuttering from vanilla?
>>743703350See>>743707161Niko is very relatable if you're not a complete man child (I mean we all partially are since we're on this site). But the only people that can't into Niko are terminally regressed tendies who were most likely molested and still think and act like a 12 year old
>>743650987>most story focused game>does the worst job of establishing the story out of every GTA
>>743707242>>743707491Ypu heard from retards. Fusionfix + Radio Restore and liberty legacy trainer is all you need. I just spent my weekend spending MAX 10 minutes of install and setup and finished Three Leaf Clover last night. Import your favourite NY ost and enable the snow with 766 555 0100 and its KINO
>>743707491it runs way better because you can enable vulkan which takes way better advantage of modern hardware compared to native dx9. i don't notice any stuttering.
>>743651157enter
>>743650987Gta3 was better
>>743707809Pipe down Marston
I tried replaying gta4 on cuckbox recently and it is so redicuously ugly couldn’t do it. I assume the people that like this game must be playing it on pc
>>743662980>I wish it was in TokyoWhat is Yakuza
>>743707491vanilla has fps drops for me instead of stuttering, fusion mod adds vulkan which fixes the fps, it might have some stuttering at first but it clears out once it builds cache
>>743707993correct assumption
>>743650987>protagonist is literally a balding, dyel, fugly war criminal slav
>>743689557>better storyNo>better writingGod no>better charactersFuck no>better controls I'll give you that>better gunplayWhy, because it turns it into a shitty cover shooter or because NPCs fall over in funny ways?>better physics Yeah>better driving and car handlingDebatable>better car damage and deformationAbsolutely >much more intuitive driving controls (R2/L2 instead of X and O)The controls every driving game had at the time were the last thing you could call unintuitive >better police/wanted system Probably, my memory fails me on that>better radioFuck off>better side activities What side activities?>better atmosphereIt's not even the best at it's own atmosphere. GTA 3 does it better>better world design and immersionIt most definitely does not>can fast travel with taxis instead of having to constantly drive from one end of the map to the otherRight, the driving is so good that you want to skip it>interiors can actually be entered in real-time instead of being segmented zones with loading screensYeah. Off topic but you reminded me how there aren't enterable restaurants in 5>no RPG stat grinding bloat crapYou can ignore it completely beyond that one mission that requires lung capacity, and you should've spent a decent amount of time swimming underwater by that point unless you're trying to blow through the story like you're playing GTA 4>You're a fucking retardYou're underage
>>743708642and literally the most high test protagonist of all the games
>>743683923you could also go to a pizza site and get V&
>>743651157rdr1 is the best rockstar game gta 4 has the best sandbox by a pretty big marginarguably the best story in gta but thats debatable
>>743707704>>743707758>>743708450Vulkan? So that means it'll run Godlike on Steam OS? Also the graphics, I heard that on Vinilla High Settings would be Medium on Fusion so you if you set Fusion to High it uses more resources. The only thing I really want is Night Shadows beucase they make the game look amazing.
>>743708642Nobody has even played GTA6 and I already know this guy would piss and shit his pants in the presence of Niko Bellic. Maybe even cum.
>>743708757>I am a retardNot an argument
>>743709573i play at 4k max settings but with the recommended draw distance settings and shit with a 5070 and unlocked i get 100+ fps but i cap it at 60 for peace of mind since it's always had problems over 60 fps historically, although i've never experienced any issues with an unlocked framerate myself.
>>743709630Claude would blow up Niko's shitbox taxi with a half second burst from his M16. Sit down
>>743709630The only guy pissing himself is the one crying himself to sleep every night over people he killed
SA has fucking horrible writing, each character is just a walking caricature, the whole story is rushed, plot threads are rushed and nonsensical, and the payoff is a wet fart.Also it actually has proper aiming, your character actually orientates properly, and the lock-on isn't perfect laser accuracy that melts enemies from 100m awayGTA3 has a great dreary atmosphere, but that's basically lighting and nothing else. Meanwhile GTA4 is like the literal best time capsule videogame in existence, it perfectly captures that early 2000s energy, atmosphere, and technology through the actual world, gameplay, writing, and characters. Not to mention it is also the absolute best recreation of NYC/big city living. No other game even comes close. The attention to detail is just insane, meanwhile GTA3 is incredibly barebones, it's more just a mindless arcadey experience. Also>you can completely ignore it and it's only annoying *sometimes*!!is definitely not actually an argument in favor of a gameplay system, nice tryYou're a low IQ jaded retard, just end it alreadySA is pure quantity over quality, it's bloated with pointless filler side activities and grinding, plagued with bugs, the world map is spread way too thin, and having to sit through two fucking loading screens just to go inside a tiny copy-pasted interior is an absolute fucking joke when even GTA3 already had it seamless
>>743710059GTA 4 has such shitty writing it doesn't even give you a good plot hook until halfway in>every character is a characterYou don't say. The only GTA 4 characters anyone ever talks about are the most one dimensional stereotypes in the game
>>743656516It's been a long time but I remember this being true. I poured hours into it until I just quit. Didn't even finish the story.
>>743707809just started playing this again. god i love old rockstar.
>>743663157>Epstein ClassAre lefties still trying to invent euphemisms for Jews instead of just calling a spade a spade?
>>743710280The hook is you're a poverty stricken immigrant trying to make it out of your shitty hellhole apartment and dead ens job. More interesting than most GTA games honestly, and it's helped tremendously by the writing, characters, and humor that all about the best R* has ever done, outside of RDR maybe
>>743710819That is the weakest hook since the top down games. Maybe it beats the stories games, I didn't play them
GTA IV and RDR1 were the end of an era. Rockstar have been shit ever since.
>>743711207The characters make it. the PS2 trilogy you don't give a shit because characters are paper thin
>>743710819>betrayed and left for dead by his partner in a bank heist>walked into a set up during a major drug deal>his mother was murdered>I'm poorWhere's the intrigue? Where's the direction? Niko can do literally anything with that. Beat the gambling tendencies out of your cousin and get a job bitch. Story over>but revengeMaybe establish that at the start of the game then
>>743711989>Beat the gambling tendencies out of your cousinI like how people shit on Sweet for holding CJ back when all Roman does is dig himself into holes that Niko has to drag him out of
>>743711443suffering from success, gta5 was mediocre but at the same time made too much money, it made the company implode
>>743709847What IS the recommended draw distance?>4k Max settings on 5070>Only 100+ fpsLol this is why I refuse to play in 4k. I wish there was some way to handle upscaling like the Switch 2.
>>743709929GTA2 Claude would piss and shit and maybe cum on GTA3 Claude. Shit down and Shit Up.>>743710031I didn't need your blog, anon.
So true OP. When I got GTA 5 at launch it was absolute trash too. When the online finally launced like 3 months later, I killed someone driving his sports car. Then went over to steal it but the game blocked me because it was "part of the players garage", I uninstalled and never played it again. Don't care how its changed since 2013, all I've heard is bad shit. But zoomers retconned it because they were 10 years old in 2013, so now suddenly its all heckin kino
>>743711989>>betrayed and left for dead by his partner in a bank heist>>walked into a set up during a major drug deal>>his mother was murderedNo one gives a fuck about any of these because nothing has been established prior to this point. It's like how TLoU expects you to care about the little girl when you just met her five fucking minutes ago. Not to mention GTAIV's city and worldbuilding are miles better than any GTA before it and is just begging to be explored.Meanwhile a rags to riches story is inherently interesting even from a GAMEPLAY perspective.
>>743709053Does GTAV even have this stuff? I rarely interacted with it because just like real life I didn't give a shit about social media shit.
Redpill me about Red Dead Redemption.Should I play RDR 1?Long ago I played GTA IV for a bit and mostly remember the insufferable slowness of RAGE controls. But it might feel appropriate on a horse.
>>743715251>But zoomers retconned it because they were 10 years old in 2013, so now suddenly its all heckin kinoThis is a big problem because I was probably 10 when GTA1 came out. I played all of them. GTAV was dog shit and I was an adult. Zoomers have literally only known GTAV for the last 20 years.
>>743715394It's the best R* game, but why the fuck do we care if you play it?
>boring/terrible missions>uninteresting protag>WOAT setting>WOAT drivingno ty
>>743715394I hated the shooting in RDR1 so I dropped it. Love RDR2.
>>743715460>>743715503Hmm, guess I'll try it.Seems like some major graphics overhaul mod got a new version recently, might be the right time to jump in.
>>743715394Its basically a game running off the GTAIV engine but by Rockstar San Diego. Yeah it's slower but it can be more comfy. Its a lot more empty. Some missions will be bullshit "drive the wagon and listen to the character talk" shit that made GTAV insufferable. If you didn't have fun with IV you just have shit taste but Red Dead is definitely its own atmosphere. I never played the Zombie spin off but I've heard everyone say it's probably peak Rockstar. For comparison GTAV and Red Dead 2 were developed by every Rockstar Studio so it has no character, and basically made to be monetized with microtransactions. Red Dead 1 is a full game and I only recently played it on Switch 1 on an actual physical cart. The only problem with playing it today is that you'll be getting the Complete/Game of the Year edition and apparantley they give you the best horse right away so you never have to work for a better horse or try to wrangle a wild horse.
>>743715279Beats being expected to give a shit about these nameless soldiers from halfway around the world who died in some war 20 years ago that get maybe 10 lines of dialogue about them. Every GTA is a rags to riches story from a GAMEPLAY perspective. San Andreas might just have the greatest distance between the rags and the riches. Meanwhile Niko's riches don't amount to anything gameplay or narrative wise
>>743715187fuzionfix auto sets it for you>only100+ fps is more than enough. it's not a twitch shooter and it's an old game so it won't scale amazingly well across a lot of cpu or gpu cores. vulkan does wonders though.
>>743715695>Meanwhile Niko's riches don't amount to anything gameplay or narrative wiseAre you trolling? The entire game revolves around Niko's progression to the top of organised crime and the accumulation of wealth.
He was Trevor done right
>>743715279>It's like how TLoU expects you to care about the little girl when you just met her five fucking minutes agoUnlike TLoU and GTA 4 those things weren't written to make you feel sad for the protagonist you moron. They were written to set the stakes. To make you want to see what happens next. To hook you into the premise
the last good GTA game was 2
>>743716287Stakes require you to care, you don't give a shit about some girl you see for 2 seconds in an intro cutscene, or some random goons you see in a 30 second cutscene, or CJs mom that is never even shown or named in any way and that CJ has barely any reaction to.For Niko, you want to play for him as a character and to explore the world, not for some incredibly lazy and threadbare "hook" that is basically just a lazily handwaved footnote later in the story anyways.
>>743716439>stakes require you to careStakes used to be about setting up an exciting premise. Muh emotional investment is the real millennial writing.Enjoy playing as a sad sack of shit I guess. Different strokes for different folks
>>743716072I wanted to bash his head in soon after he showed up.
>>743716390High IQ post. I still play it on Steam Deck. There's a good community control config for it.
>>743716651You are like genuinely like 70 IQ, go watch the latest marvelslop, retard
>>743716439>explore the worldThe world that's 80% concrete blocks? There's nothing to find in Liberty City except the heart of the city
>>743716731You are genuinely pretentious. Go play RDR2 again so you can get hit in the feels from watching a dying mass murderer feel bad about mass murdering.How much like 70 IQ am I by the way? I'm curious
>>743653172Before game devs had completely formed ranks around leftism and therefore journalism.
>>743656682I bet you didn't even unlock the go kart you fucking faggot
>>743716731>You are like genuinely like 70 IQpot, kettle, etc.
>>743658086Jimmy P is a nothingburger of a villain and Niko should've killed Bulgarin, not fucking Luis.
>>743717048>I can't get invested in a story for its writing, or characters, or setting, or themes>I literally only care about some lazy wafer-thin "hook" to make me basedface overNo, you are genuinely just a brown subhuman retard.
>>743658817Scarface the world is yours
>>743717161why do you keep saying genuinely? do you think it genuinely makes you seem like a genuine genius?
>>743717196Are you done yet, brown subhuman?
>>743717161>implying the previous games didn't have all that and an intro that's actually interesting
>>743650987contrarian ass. the missions are shit and the game is repetitive. yeah the gunplay, physics and atmosphere is good but the game is not that good.>oh dude a game set in new york and... thats it. awesome!
>>743717409No... they didn't actually... the stories were never really compelling. San Andreas is carried by its humor and a few likeable characters, but VC and especially III have almost nothing going for them in the story or writing department
>>743711913Bro 90% of the characters with any presence are one note tropes
>>74365115730FPS and broken as fuck on PC even with mods.Someone should make a recomp.
>>743715279>it's like how TLoU expects you to care about the little girl when you just met her five fucking minutes agoIronically that's exactly how I felt about Darko
>>743650987The DLCs were better than the main game, especially The Ballad of Gay Tony
>>743651264>Muh Dan HouserJesus Christ the mythologizing of this bald faggot and his shock jock buddy (Lazlo) is embarrassing.Llsten to some Opie&Anthony episodes with Lazlo on and realize how painfully unfunny the dude is, and Dan Houser got the job just because his brother Sam wanted to give him something to do and "writing" is the only thing you don't have to demonstrate any actual competency in, since we're talking about gaming, anything goes.He wrote GTA3, VC and SA, which are lazy pastiche of cinema most iconic scenes cobbled together, he wrote GTA4 with some basic bitch message about war-bad, he wrote GTAV which is a masterclass of incompetent handling of three characters (if we can even consider Franklin a character at all), he wrote RDR2 which /v/ never stops bitching about it being woke (understandably, given how comically anachronistic it is).Their satire always was bottom of the barrel, low hanging fruit, SNL tier, but as soon as they left the place they somehow became fucking Mark Twain.
>>743720161>SA, GTAIV, RDR, and GTAV are all considered very funny and well written with great characters>literally every lead writer of these games is gone from R* is gone except for Robert Humphries>all writing from GTAO from 2020 onwards has been pure raw sewage, painfully bland, cringy, and unfunny>STOP WORRYING GOY, THIS IS ALL ACCORDING TO PLANFuck off retard
>>743720953>are all considered very funny and well written with great charactersYes, and Dad of War won a thousand awards.Do you get how easy it is to be considered amazing writing in the gaming space? Most gamers never even opened a book, Alanah Pearce and Anthony Burch are famous game writers, ffs.>B-but GTAO and GTA6I never said GTA6 was going to be a Pulitzer Prize winner, I just resent the fact that somehow the other GTAs are retroactively retconned into literary masterpieces, because IGN said a guy saying war is hell is incredible insight into the human psyche, and because you need a reason to frame the newest thing as bad and the old thing as great.
>>743720953anon GTAO has been around since before dan or lazlow even left and it never had good writing, lazlow literally shows up in one of the dlcs for fucksake. they just don't put their best people in GTAO for obvious reasons. Anyways the gtao dlc with the best writing is the contracts update with Franklin and Lamar and that came out after Dan and Lazlow left
>>743721560GTAO's writing never used to be this bad. The OG Heists had the best writing, Doomsday was kinda bad with the cringy Elon shit, but post-2020 is a special breed of shit.
>>743721383>hollywood jew, game writer >:(>hollywood jew, screenwriter :OYes nigger, we read books and watch film. Games can still have great writing.
>>743676923agreedI wish we got the option to pick between ray and phil
>>743710587Good goy!
We had vice city, San andreas, Bully, The Warriors, Manhunt, GTA 4, RDR1 coming out a few years appart from each other, then the shark cards happened...
>>743650987Niko, my cousin!
Because games stopped trying to be weighty and realistic
>>743722421Which game in your opinion has great writing?
You are in the twilight of western civilization.
>>743722421>Yes nigger, we read books and watch film. I'm sure you do...>Games can still have great writing."Can"? Yes, theoretically."Do"? No, and certainly nothing Dan Houser has written.
>>743656660shit taste>>743656682point proven immediately
I liked 4 and 5.Still replay both.
>>743650987based>>743651157true
>>743650987Thats San Andreas for me. I just hate liberty city and the attempt to make the game grounded that veers into no-fun-allowed territory. I also hate liberty city as a map. Just endless flat block after block of dull boring identical grey buildings. If you're not at times square or central park nothing has any real character. Also so many fucking missions that are just padded out because they make you drive all the way around the map if you fail at any point that made the story mode just feel fucking tedious. I still played the shit out of the game, I'm not saying I don't like it, but it just is never going to be my favorite.
>>743651157Would a bully remake today let you grope and pinch little girl butts?
>>743650987The radio fucking sucks. Lazlow and the hotdog guy is funny but everything else sucks especially the music. Just thought you should know.
>>743727019Before Dan Houser left I remember him giving an interview where he was talking about how their budgets and dev cycles has become untennable, and that after GTAVI he wanted to start scaling back on major productions, and instead let their individual studios work on smaller scale games that can take risks, and not put all the eggs in the same basket.
>>743683968I remember being hyped for GTA5 thinking that Max Payne 3 was the foundation for the gunplay, especially with the news that Michael would have his own bullet time ability. Lol lmao
>>743650987cant believe this thread lasted two days, bump
Kinda crazy to think almost everyone here is older than niko
NIKOLETS GO BOWLING
>>743651157I have never played bully or seen any gameplay, no idea what kind of game it is, just because the weird name gives me the ick so i dont even want to find out
>>743683729Completely substanceless post, I like how the only arguments you have have no actual depth to them and are just word salads>Literally the only great cast of characters in the series. Surely you can't think the cardboard cutouts of the PS2 gamesthe PS2 characters were infinitely more memorable and better written than any of the GTA 4 characters. Niko was a massive retard who killed people all game but then... im le bad guy? Johnny is a jew and Luis was alright but nothing special>Best missions in the series, a return to the classic formula with a focus on core gameplay instead of gimmick trash like stacking boxes with a forklift or stacking containers with a craneYou mean the classic formula of going from point A to point B, killing some people, and running away from the cops? The game literally has the most boring missions ever since most of them are assassinations Niko does, theres like 3 or 4 filler missions in between any real one where you just go up and down and kill people and then go back. Niko rolls in a cutscene, some guy is acting tough and an acts like asshole to him, he throws a ballsy one liner, bad guy laughs and ends up liking him, then Niko gets sent to kill someone. Wow thats like 45% of the cutscenes in the game>By features you mean half baked RPG elements and 500 bland minigames that you did once for the novelty and then never again.Like I said, completely substanceless since you dont even defend how dogshit GTA 4's minigames are. In GTA 4 you can go bowling, darts, race... eat a burger? The minigames werent special in GTA SA but you had freedom of choice and could actually fool around and have some fun. You could be a firefighter, cop, or ambulance driver, all of those gave you great perks like increased HP, or you could go to the gym, change clothes in like 5 different stores, and have 3 fighting styles at different gyms. You can't even ride a plane or go underwater in GTA 4 lmao.
it's alright
michael, why are you posting on v. nobody cares about your opinion
>gta4>shit map>shit controls>shit story>shit characters>shit missions>shit driving>shit radioWhat part of it is supposed to be good again?
>>743736912the part where you got filtered
>>743650987God I used to watch so many GTAIV stunt Machinimas as a kid. Truly peak
>>743650987>>743651157Do you think they'll ever relaunch those or it will make their new games look bad in comparison?
>>743650987>Game map is one small city and 2 towns, the rest is mountains.>Physics considerably worse than the game that came before it.>No interiors besides safehouse and Ammunation>Shitty missions such as Crane operator, yoga, apple offices, any mission involving Michael's kids>Terminator cops with ridiculous accuracy so police battles are usually short>Removed crouch feature>Restrictive linear missions that fail if you try to be creative>Unlikeable characters>Forgettable villians>3 protagonists>So many guns that they all feel the same>GTA Onlinegta5 is such a disappointment
>>743736912The Russian radio host should've been an FSU Jewish emigree, speaking with a stereotypical Jewish-Russian accent.
>>743737807Reddit loves all of the media in that image
>>743738064but does reddit love (You)?
>>743683729
>>743712608>Sweet for holding CJ backThis was a great litmus test, Sweet was 100% right here, its just that hes a retard and doesnt know how to communicate it properly>RomanHe is a comedic character thats not really meant to be taken serious, he is unironically a spineless cuck who contemplated watching Vlad fuck Mallorie. After all the flirting and playing around Mallorie did, Roman still forgave her and married her kek when she clearly has no loyalty. Whenever Niko calls out on his bullshit Roman constantly defends himself and attacks Niko acting like hes in the wrong when hes a pathetic retard yet doesn't really do anything to stand up for himself or get himself out of trouble
>>743650987I think I just aged out of the demo on the new stuff and I don’t really care enough to get the next one until it’s on sale. But the storyline, gun and car handling overall was way better than 5. Too much UI, too much like Saints Row
>>743730698History is ending, who knows when?
>>743709573Yes just do it faggot. They even have an additional setting "Extra Shadows at Night", fusionfix adds back every neon sign (the diner by safehouse 1 for example) and the draw distance at max adds an even bigger scale to Liberty City
>>743716072>>743716659In hindsight I now realize Billy was right and Johnny was wrong. Trevor is trash, and will continue being trash, not even worth an on-screen death just have Jimmy or Tracey mention his passing.
>>743739758>Billy was right and Johnny was wrongjohnny murdered his entire club and then still went back to his junkie glory hole girlfriendhe was always wrong
Cinematic pile of shit with terrible car handling and a terrible Open World map.Takes itself too seriously and becomes a parody of itself.
>>743650987Agreed. Great story. Great characters. Great even balanced multiplayer that didn't Jew you out of your paycheck every month. The combat in the multiplayer was balanced and fueled by creativity. Our favorite mini-game in multiplayer was the 6 star wanted level run from one side of the map to the other without getting in a vehicle. Off that one game type we spent hours having a blast. Once GTA 5 came out, the game was flooded with more annoying immature niggers running around in faggot dreadlocks and Night vision goggles, sniping you and Spamming explosives at you on God knows whatever retarded new vehicle Rockstar churned out for a cash grab, just to grief and tell you to "git guud" when all you wanted to do was go to the customs shop and avoid niggers in the first place. So yea OP. You are a gentleman and a scholar. GTA 4 was the last great GTA.
>>743739993>Takes itself too seriouslyUnbelievably reddit opinion. Not enough quips for your taste?
