How were they able to return to their status as the king of video games after so many years of dormancy?Do you remember the days when people used to mock Japanese games by comparing them to titles like Assassin's Creed?
Total westoid death btw
>Do you remember the days when people used to mock Japanese games by comparing them to titles like Assassin's Creed?Even retards here were doing that so yeah
>>743660451japan is seen as a western country but now better
>>743660264No. chinese will take over. then the indian. then the africans. I dont make the rule but that is just how it will go.
>>743660264They just keep making games while the western sides keep shooting themselves
>>743660264>Do you remember the days when people used to mock Japanese games by comparing them to titles like Assassin's Creed?Yeah it started during the PS2 era.PS2 owners were giving Dreamcast owners shit because their games weren't cinematic.I was fucking disgusted at that behaviour and it only got ten times worse during the PS3 era.
>>743660508/v/ has always just parroted whatever marketing was loudest at the time2009:>japanese games are outdated>everything needs open world, mocap, cover shooting and crafting2026:>why is every western game a bloated ubislop checklist with marvel dialoguemany such cases
>>743660264>How were they able to return to their status as the king of video games after so many years of dormancy?Because around 2016ish moving into 2017ish the PS4 was having a dead period of releases. It was basically HZD and then a whole lot of nothing from Sony so people started looking towards third parties for something new. That then led to games like Monster Hunter World, NieR Automata, Yakuza 0, Persona 5, Resident Evil 2 Remake, Kingdom Hearts 2.8, and Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth to see a bigger uptick in focus on them all as brands. RE2R would have done fine without it, KH was fine, and Monhun is up for debate, but all of these brands got a bump or even an outright revival due to this dead zone in releases.That then snowballed because of more and more Japanese releases seeing successes over and over now that people realized there was more variety than ever, Ghost of Sushi did really well which got people more interested in Japan, and then Covid caused people to have way more time on their hands so they started heavily looking outside of the first-party bubble.I really think people underestimate how that dead zone helped prop this all up at the time.>Yakuza games which were on death's door went from selling nothing to Playstation Hits titles (Meaning 250k-500k sales minimum) on every release at the time.>Digimon as a brand basically reignited itself in the west due to it and now you have Survive and Time Stranger selling over a million.>Persona, which was somewhat popular but also somewhat niche, now became a multi-million seller because of it and ballooned Atlus into doing random stuff like Metaphor that also sold fairly well.>Monhun got way more visibility than it had in terms of the casual audience since the PSP days thanks to World even if people here wouldn't stop complaining about it.and so on. NieR, Monhun, and RE2R had PC releases, but in general many of these were PS4-only at the time or at least heavily focused on PS4.
>>743660264Westoid devs flooded gaming with the sloppest of the slop genres and trends. It was like the MCU was big then everyone stopped caring about slop while budgets were still bloated as fuck. Can't beat good fundamentals
>>743660264>How were they able to return to their status as the king of video games after so many years of dormancy?By having more babies and stop listening the west(America).
> Do you remember the days when people used to mock Japanese games by comparing them to titles like Assassin's Creed?Generally I don't listen to retards.
It helps when western studios gut their employees after each game release
>>743660264>How were they able to return to their status as the king of video games after so many years of dormancy?They never had it
>>743664021This>OMG THIS JAPANESE GAME IS NOTHING LIKE ASSASSIN'S CREED>look at gameplay>it's janky and looks awfulAnd that's when you learn that muh grafix fags are subhuman retards with shit taste.
>>743660264>How were they able to return to their status as the king of video games after so many years of dormancy?they did nothing and won.>hey, these games are too low-cost to make, you need to make AAA Japanese games.>hey these games are pandering too much to a specific niche audience. Can you censor them a little and change the gameplay? also please stop making them for the japanese taste onlyThey literally did nothing. They kept doing the same thing they'd been doing for years, and they won.
The Japanese will always be the kings of vidya though. They are the reason most people like playing video games in the first place.
>>743660264Not saying you're wrong OP, but Japan is castrated>the glorious h games and eroge of yore aren't coming back thanks to banking and credit card kikes>lolis and lolibaba are gone>panty and upskirt shots are gone>oppai and cleavage sternly discouragedOnly saving grace is that they're still better than westoids, chinks, and gooks
>>743660264stop listening to consulting firms for one.
>they won.
>>743660264Japan good. Simple as.
>>743660451Yeah the east is so based haha.......ha.....
If by "people" you mean Western journalists. There are a ton of Japanese games from that era that got shit on by Western reviewers that are actually great and hold up great.
>>743664558They won, bro, just accept it.
>>743664476>remake AAA cinematic westernslop with DEI hands>>743664710>remakeslop with western DEI hands>>743664558>based on united states (lol)>>743664487this is literally your only good post, congratz
>>743664794What's wrong, are you tired of winning?
>>743664872I don't touch AAA games, sorry lil brothis post is alien to me
>>743664872Why are you only posting random SE remakes? A company that doesn't have fans anymore?
>>743664920It's okay, it's a jap game.
>>743664932Modern FF is so fucking dogshit that it doesn't even work as ragebait anymore because nobody cares.If the guy is going to troll, he should do some research first. What a retard.
>>743664951FF7 Demake is second only to FromSoftware and kojima when it comes to being spiritually westoid.That's why it's shit.
>>743665241>That's why it's shit.Is it
>>743660264I haven't played a Japanese game since 2012.I won't say they're worse, but I will say they're not for me.
>FromSoft badlol
>>743660264I fucking hate that so many good games are Japanese. Their weirdness just seeps in, and I'm not the biggest fan of Japanese culture. Why can't America make good games?
>>743665270>Tries to do a UI comparison >It's not even comparable as there's hardly any UI on the screenAt least TRY with your shitposts
>>743665305>Their weirdness just seeps in That's the best part.
>>743665305>Their weirdness just seeps inThey are good precisely because they don't care about pleasing retards and just write and do whatever the fuck they want. It's sad that the so-called "country of freedom" will never experience this.
>>743665305>Their weirdnessPlease specify what you mean by this so I know how to appropriately mock you for being a raging normalfag.
>>743665304Pretty horrid, yeah.
>>743665561>and just write and do whatever the fuck they want.based
we need to return to the dudebro era
>>743660264Have they even made anything worth playing in the last 15 years apart from Palworld?
>>743661850People mocked Dreamcast games because they were 1:1 arcade ports that cost $60. Outside of fighting games, that's ridiculous and even with fighting games, games like Soul Calibur had to add an entire single player campaign that took more than 30 minutes to complete in Tales of the Sword.Why do butthurt Segafags rewrite history as if anyone wants to pay large sums of money for games they could play at an arcade on the cheap?
>>743666634Considering how many good titles come from Capcom, Nintendo, Sega and sometime Square Enix. For example, Final Fantasy: Jack, Dark Souls 1 and 2, Bloodborne (which is so beloved people consider it the best reason to own a PS4 for a long time), Gravity Rush 1 & 2, Dragma Balls, Monster Hunter 4, etc. If Palworld is the only Japanese game you can think of, it's more of a personal indictment to your lack of taste than anything relating to Japan. I love how /v/irgins out themselves as not playing games for a decade now when most must play games over the past 15 years (whether in some game awards or via a cult following) are Japanese or European games. Why the fuck are you on this board if you don't like games?
>>743667275>bunch of normie slopnothing then. I like Japanese games but their good shit was all 90s~2000s.
>>743660264Nips keep making games with shoestring budget while chinks and westoid pouring unreasonable amount of budget into a single project.
>>743664487It's not the soijak's fault that Japan simply does things better and more palatable. The cringiest most fanservicey JRPG is still less embarrassing than what the dialogue western goylennials put into their games.
>>743667298What's a non-normalfag game from the 90s~2000s.
>>743667298>If it's not hentais or dating VNs, it's normalfag slop even if the average normalfag couldn't name most of those games outright.Nice going proving me right faggot.>I like Japanese games but their good shit was all 90s~2000s.No you're just fucking old and jaded. I've seen faggots like you in real life and when I give them game recommendations that are along the lines of things they like, they use similar excuses despite not even trying the goddamn game. Again, get a new hobby.>>743667373Because JRPGs are sincere. Even if they're cringey at times, it's better than someone that constantly jokes around because they're insecure about being mocked. It's a very recent thing too since 7th gen games like Infamous and GoW are pretty cheesy too but are sincere about it and don't try to play serious moments for laughs.
>>743665420Maybe for a lot of people on here, I don't like anime so I probably don't fit in well with most of the people on here.>>743665561>I talk about Japan>this nigga starts seething about America>>743665665It's just off. The stories are weird and I can just tell it comes from a culture that values different things more or less than mine.
>>743667520>I talk about Japan>"Why can't America make good games?"go check your alzheimer lil bro
>>743667520>I probably don't fit in well with most of the people on here.You don't. Reddit is down the hall.
>>743667672I'm too racist for reddit. I left in like 2019.
>>743666634Do you genuinely even play lots of video games if you have to ask this?
>>743660264Lots of big western studios became too big and soulless while the dark age of Japanese games turned out not that bad in retrospectBut to be fair, looking at what has happened over the past decade, it's more striking to see the overwhelming increase in the number of small western studios and their success than the resurgence of Japanese games.
>>743660264Japan has always been the king of gaming. Westoids think they can compare because of ethnonarcissism. The West has made no more than 20 good games in the past 80 years.
>>743665301How do you know if you haven't played one in 15 years?
They haven't. Modern Japanese media are almost as shit as western slop.
>>743660264all of the western studios self terminated while japan kept chugging along with lower budget games
>>743665561>they don't care about pleasing retardsThey do though. They cram their games full of shit that fans love.Especially when it comes to their writing. They write the most cliched crap in the world, because the fans love it.You have countless people here calling it "cringe kino" etc.
>>743665561>They are good precisely because they don't care about pleasing retards and just write and do whatever the fuck they want.This hasn't been the case in decades. They make media for western sensibilities first these days.
>>743667461>No you're just fucking old and jaded.NTA but that person is right.Modern japanese stuff is all western focused.The publishers that survived the shift to HD in japan that nearly wiped out their entire industry, did so by pandering to women and fags and normies in the USA.Capcom, Square Enix etc.
>>743668632This is how I can tell you fags don't play games and don't bother to check up on games outside of this fucking shithole because that is blatantly untrue. Capcom still releases shit like Kunitsu-gami and Pragmata and outside of their more western focused RE series, they still have shit like Dragma Balls and the upcoming Dark Arisen DLC and the recent Monster Hunter games.Same thing with Square Enix. They're still rele3aseing Dragon Quest gmaes which have always been more Japan focused along with Octopath Traveler and they're re-releasing older games that were unknown outside of Japan like some of the Romancing Saga. I hate this fucking hyper-pessimistic attitude on this site where fucking whiny faggots talk about how gaming is dead just because the WESTERN AAA industry is collapsing due to hyper-bloated budgets, poor final products and alienating their fans when you have indies not doing that and the Japanese also not doing that. I'm not even necessarily talking about the quality of the aforementioned games which runs the gambit but is mostly fine, but none of these games are particularly Western focused since they aren't gun and ball games and they aren't Ubishite style open world games. They're very much the same as the respective series they are a part of (again with possible changes in quality). They aren't Western focused and they will never be since Western normalfag audiences fundamentally don't like Japanese games like that. Once the Japs understood that by the end of the 7th gen, they just started doing what they always did but with better graphics.You fags unironically need to get a new hobby or a life or something. Being a depressed contrarian doomer isn't cool and in fact, makes you a massive faggot. If games are so bad, just do something else rather than shitpost about them fecklessly like woman would.
>>743668553>the author writes fanservice because his fans want it, not because he's a straight male, okay?your kind is so predictable that even if the writer posted a video of himself jerking off, you'd say he was just being kind and polite and he didn't mean that.>>743668612>I only play AAA the post
cunny feet
>>743660264No
>>743660551don't use the stupid w word on japan you fucking weeb cunt
>weebs always complain about westoid games being overly cinematic walking sims>while praising JRPGs
>>743671136JRPGs have a couple of hours of cutscenes in a game that are often 60+ hours, most of which you can either skip or just mash out of with east. Westoid games are 10 hours and 8 of those are cutscenes, which aren't skippable. It's not even remotely comparable.
>>743671214>60+ hoursAnd 59 hours of that is walking down hallways and reading text boxes.
>>743671214>>743671214This is why it's hard to take game discussion on /v/ seriously. You might be talking to someone who whines about "movie games" while unironically defending and enjoying JRPG menuslop moviegames with zero self awareness
>>743671245>Doesn't skip cutscenes when it's dead simple to (pic related)>Goes DIRECTLY to where he needs to go with no sense of wanting to explore or do some item trading/buying at minimum>Blames the game for he himself being a retardYep, you're a /v/irgin alright.>>7436715321) You shouldn't take /v/ seriously because it's filled with faggots like you that don't like games and want to bitch about them like women do about men. One glance at the catalogue is proof enough of that.2) If a game gives you the means to skip stuff you don't want to see, makes it very apparent and you don't do it, that's on you retard. Not to mention there are action JRPGs where you use the menu sparingly and JRPGs that are very sparse on plot like the Dragma Balls games and Nier/Drakengard games. 3) Every JRPG I've ever played has <1-4 hours of cutscenes in a game that's 60+ hours long. That is not a moviegame you dumb cunt. A moviegame has ZERO gameplay and does shit like walking cutscenes, QTEs and have very little in the manner of player interaction. If the game is played particularly through a menu, IT CANNOT BE A MOVIE GAME unless you think 4x games and RTSes are moviegames.You niggers are so retarded and whiny. Why even bother playing games when you can't be arsed to play them properly? You're all spiritually the same as DSP. Fucking stop playing games. You don't like them judging by how you cannot find a single fucking niche in the wide world of gaming to stick to and instead only play normalfag adjacent Western AAA games and complain why low quality products are shit. At the same time, you can't even muster the gumption to change shit and play something else, Maybe not JRPGs (that might not be for you. It really isn't for me), but something other than the lowest quality garbage that comes out of the Western AAA gaming industry. Get some taste, you fucking dorks.
>>743672047>doesn't skip cutscenesHow about this; what if the cutscenes simply didn't exist, and we stop pandering to retards who want to watch movies all day? If I'm gonna be skipping 99% of a game, then there's no point in even playing it.
>>743664381>they started a anti trust against VISA lats year, and all the signs point out to them nationalizing their economy like before, and its going to suck for them in the first 2-3 years but long term I guess will be cool to keep themselves somewhat secluded while the west goes in bs mode>we just had a lolibaba doll molestation anime episodes yesterday
>>743672156>we just had a lolibaba doll molestation anime episodes yesterdayTell me more.
>>743672129>How about this; what if the cutscenes simply didn't exist and we stop pandering to retards who want to watch movies all day? It's a fucking story-based game retard. Of course there will be cutscenes. If you want games that don't have cutscenes, play arcade games.Also, the cutscenes aren't so densely packed and not long enough to be an actual movie. One 5 minute cutscene every couple of hours is not the same as this shit. Even in your fucking webm, you sped up the sections where the player had control and instead of doing role-playing bullshit, you just went from point A to point B.>If I'm gonna be skipping 99% of a game, then there's no point in even playing it.No one is forcing you to play that game or any game in that genre. You do this to yourself because you're a retarded manchild with no sense for the value of time.
>>743664381What the fuck are you saying man. Credit card restrictions don't affect domestic sales.
>>743672347>It's a fucking story-based game retard. And how is that any different from what westoids do? There is ZERO difference between the webm you posted, and the webm I posted here>>743671245>b-but the cutscenes aren't so densely packedBoth games still involve shoving shit in my face. Just because JRPGs have you walk down a hallway first, doesn't magically make it better. The game is pure slop because it has to lean on its story, like a crutch. Neither JRPGs or westoid walking sims have the guts to go full on naked and have a minimalist story like Minecraft. No, you need 500 billion dollars invested in cinematic slop because the idea of just playing a game is foreign to you. You NEED someone constantly narrating to you where you have to go next.Infact, having said that, I'd dare say that JRPGs are the yellow paint of video game genres.
>ITT: humans trying to reason with JRPG puristsAbandon reason. They love grindan more than life itself, and think you're the fool because you can't see the beauty of it.One day in the 90s they decided this was going to be their entire personality and by god, they stuck to it.
>>743672515>And how is that any different from what westoids do?Because there's large amounts of gameplay between the story segments faggot.>There is ZERO difference between the webm you posted, and the webm I posted here>>743671245The webm you posted has the player walk and literally do nothing but the main quest in an RPG, which is naturally going to be very boring and uninteresting if all you do is the main plot. A lot of those areas are open enough or have multiple exits for you to go down that aren't part of the main quest.In Dad of War, that is all you can do and you are rail roaded on that path, whether you like it or not.It's the the difference between choosing to cuck yourself out of content and blaming the game for it like a retard or the game literally not having any content and forcing you down a single path.>Both games still involve shoving shit in my face.Then don't play them. Why can't you faggots understand this? If you don't like something, don't play it. Don't cry like a retarded bitch on /v/ just because not everyone agrees with your retarded worldview.>>743672659If you do't like JRPGs, don't play them. It really is that simple. No one is forcing you nor wants you to play games you don't like. Just don't act like a salty bitch that someone likes what you don't. The grind isn't even unique to JRPGs. You find RPGs like the Ultima games and Wizardy or Might and Magic. It's part of the whole role-playing aspect of the RPG genre.
>>743672212Kamui
I like JRPGs and also can agree that some of them moviegames. However how much of a moviegame they are is a spectrum.Good moviegames have blockbuster cutscenes that somehow involve the player in it. Remember FFVII where you can somehow walk around while everything is happening around the scene.The 1st Xenoblade lets your characters wear underwears and it become visible during the cutscenes.As long as the game lets you influence the narrative a little bit and not make it entirely pre-rendered without your influence, I think they are OK.>>743672659I don't like grinding and I love JRPGs. If you scour online forums, gamefaqs, and even reddoot, you will get instantly flamed for calling a JRPG grindy without actual evidence.Suikoden 2 isn't grindy at all. Just get the correct runes and party members. That's it.I hate the bosses in this game and the 1st one though. Incredibly cliche monsters that mostly has no involvement in the story.
>>743672809>Because there's large amounts of gameplay between the story segments faggot.Walking down hallways is not gameplay. God of War should've told you this.>The webm you posted has the player walk and literally do nothing but the main quest in an RPG, which is naturally going to be boring and uninterestingSo instead of fixing this very crucial flaw, they just shove in filler and expect you to ignore it. And you see absolutely zero problem with this?>In Dad of War, that is all you can do and you are rail roaded on that path, whether you like it or not.And by your logic, this would make the game a masterpiece as long as there was some boring sidequests to pad the game out, like collecting 12 bear pelts or something for a random NPC. You do nothing to address that the main story is boring and uninteresting.>It's the the difference between choosing to cuck yourself out of contentJRPG side content is garbage. Nobody rational wants to read through text boxes for hours, just so an NPC can give me some trinket that I'll sell at a store because it stopped being useful 5 hours ago.>Then don't play them. Why can't you faggots understand this? If you don't like something, don't play it. Don't cry like a retarded bitch on /v/ just because not everyone agrees with your retarded worldview.And yet you seem to be unable to follow your own advice, since you constantly whine and complain about westoid games.
>>743672870Cool, thanks.
>>743660264By Squeenix getting rid of Nomura.
>>743660264>he thinks they ever left the thronelet me guess, you fell for the "the TRANSition to HD was le hard for japan" because sonic games were dogshit or you fell for some gachaslop grift? maybe both?
jap gamey games cant touch western gamesjap movie games can't touch western movie gamesyou just loser mad at popular things to justify your loser life
>>743663696>Because around 2016ish moving into 2017ish the PS4 was having a dead period of releases.That was when snoy backstabbed japan and moved to trannyfornia, nigga.By the way that dry period is still ongoing for the barrierstation.
>>743664381>>the glorious h games and eroge of yore aren't coming back thanks to banking and credit card kikesliterally doesnt affect local sales, and youre just retarded if you havent learned how to larp as a jp buyer yet>>lolis and lolibaba are gone>>panty and upskirt shots are gone>>oppai and cleavage sternly discouragedyou keep getting btfo every single time you try doomfag about this, why even keep trying?
>>743660264They were NEVER dormant.
>>743671136>sour grapes baldy found the threadcan your dogshit pc run anything more demanding than terraria yet?
>>743672935>Walking down hallways is not gameplay. God of War should've told you this.If you choose to do that and ignore the actual part of the RPG, where you explore, it is but only because you chose to do so.>So instead of fixing this very crucial flaw, they just shove in filler and expect you to ignore it. And you see absolutely zero problem with this?You only do that at you're own volition. You can play RPGs like you are supposed to and do side-quests and explore or stop playing all together if you cannot conceive of this simple concept. This is a concept so fundamental to RPGs as a whole, even the earliest CRPGs like Akalabeth expected the user to so some sidequesting along withthe main quest.>And by your logic, this would make the game a masterpiece as long as there was some boring sidequests to pad the game out, like collecting 12 bear pelts or something for a random NPC. You do nothing to address that the main story is boring and uninteresting.Dad of War has the exact same problem as FF13, which is an actual JRPG that is a hallway simulator, whether you like it or not.>JRPG side content is garbage. Nobody rational wants to read through text boxes for hours, just so an NPC can give me some trinket that I'll sell at a store because it stopped being useful 5 hours ago.Then don't play JRPGs. WRPGs literally do the same shit in that regard so don't play those either. Some of them are actually worse like Fallout 1 and 2, Planetscape Torment and Baldur's Gate or even shit like Gothic or the Dragon Age games. So don't play those. All this tells me is that you are actually too retarded to have fun in games that are decently open-ended, where the user can do almost anything they want.>And yet you seem to be unable to follow your own advice, since you constantly whine and complain about westoid games.I don't because I don't play them because I know I won't like them. I don't complain about games I won't play anyways, unlike you.
>>743673358*your own volition
>>743673358>If you choose to do that and ignore the actual part of the RPG, where you explore,What am I exploring? More hallways? >You can play RPGs like you are supposed to and do side-quests and explore But I've done that multiple times. Whether it was Final Fantasy, Trails in the Sky, Xenoblade, every single one of them was the same bland bullshit being peddled over and over again. You admit it yourself that the main story is a boring slog, but you forget that the sidequests are even worse. Fighting trash mobs that I'm already overleveled for (because sidequests unlock way too late for you to be threatened by them) is just not fun.>Dad of War has the exact same problem as FF13, which is an actual JRPG that is a hallway simulator, whether you like it or not.There is no difference between FF13 and Xenoblade or Dragon Quest, other than FF13 being more linear. If they added more hallways and side quests, you'd praise it as a masterpiece, even if they addressed none of the other issues.>All this tells me is that you are actually too retarded to have fun in games that are decently open-ended, where the user can do almost anything they want.I do enjoy open ended games, but JRPGs and WRPGs don't deliver the fun. Despite their attempts at being free and open, you're still bound by the gay story.>I don't complain about games I won't play anyways, unlike you.You literally complained about Dad of War 3 posts ago. Come on bruh.
>>743660264>How were they able to return to their status as the king of video games after so many years of dormancy?Most people talking about games today don't actually play them. Since all video game opinions are based on interviews and dev talk, Japan gets to look and feel special by comparison.In reality, nobody in this thread could list more than five great Japanese games made since the start of the decade, let alone one made last year.
>>743660264Because the western video games industry is crashing, again. Nintendo might have to bail them, again.
>>743660264They got even worse, japan is conservative and slow so everyone else just got worse much faster
>>743664794>>remakeslop with western DEI handsit was a game made by a japanese studio and directed by the original director
>>743660264well OP, they have a culture that doesn't make sacrificial offerings to moloch
>>743673520>What am I exploring? More hallways?You literally see an entire city in that webm you posted. How do you not think to at least maginally explore that city before complaining about about hallways.>But I've done that multiple times.It's clear you don't like the genre if you don't like ANY of them. That's fine. Stop forcing the issue and stop playing them if they're all shit to you, you retarded niggerfaggot. You're like the fags that constantly complain about CoD going to shit but buy each yearly release as soon as it is available for sale. >There is no difference between FF13 and Xenoblade or Dragon Quest, other than FF13 being more linear.All the Dragon Quest games are practically open world. Xenoblade FWIR isn't that open, but there's a lot you can do in each area and it is not a literal hallway like FF13. SO yes, there is a big difference between >I do enjoy open ended games, but JRPGs and WRPGs don't deliver the fun. Despite their attempts at being free and open, you're still bound by the gay story.THEN STOP PLAYING THEM. You don't like them because they have narratives. Look for games you will like. How worthless are you that you need to be told this. Play Daggerfall or something if you want a recommendation so badly you stupid cunt.>You literally complained about Dad of War 3 posts ago. Come on bruh.Saying something is shit in broad terms not even relating to the game itself is not complaining about it, you invalid. I'm not seething about it nor am I attached to it. I'm using it as an example to show why your worldview is retarded and nonsensical, especially when you actively play games you don't like but feel compelled to give your worthless opinion on. I have never played any GoW past the last PS3 one in 2013 and I do not regret that decision one bit.
>>743672347>>743672047I imagine if Xenoblade games didn't have cutscenes, they'd be universally reviled for their awful gameplay
>>743673940MMOfags love that kind of combat thoughever
>>743666401No we fucking don't, we need to return to the mgs2, ace combat 3, old bungie, ghost in the shell era.
>Unironically arguing with the "JRPGs are literally movie games" schizo after this.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/743380396/#743402105You only have yourself to blame for wasting your time.
>>743660264The west only sat on the throne by brute forcing AAA HD development through nigh infinite funding from wall street and the military industrial complex. Now that jews have found different mediums to push their propaganda, the western industry has been defunded and the big publishers are downsizing to where they should have been
>>743666401>Turns out that when you go to extremes, neither end is appealingShocking.
>>743673885>You literally see an entire city in that webm you postedA city full of boring, useless NPCs. Same song and dance as every JRPG. Trails made the claim before you, Final Fantasy before them. You just become numb to the 500th NPC that talks about the same copypasted events over and over.>stop forcing the issue and stop playing them if they're all shit to you,You keep advertising JRPGs and japanese games as flawless masterpieces without compare, so you basically invited me into the thread to discuss them. You have nobody to blame but yourself. If you want a hugbox, try r*ddit.>All the Dragon Quest games are practically open world.It doesn't mean anything if it's empty. Dragon Quest And FF13 are still the same, one just has more hallways. Tranime just lends itself to poorly made games with boring NPCs and droning dialogue that goes on forever.>You don't like them because they have narratives. Look for games you will likeTruth be told, it's been a while since I played a JRPG. So I'm way ahead of you.>Saying something is shit in broad terms not even relating to the game itself is not complaining about it, you invalid."I'm not complaining about the game, I'm just..... complaining about it."
>>743674083>all those timeless classics and top tier indie recommendationsWhoever this guy is, he must be pretty based. ;)
>>743672878Pretty much all, literally all, complaints about JRPGs being grindy come from retards skipping all random encounters then only using normal attacks against bosses, then bitching when they inevitably get their shit caved in.
movie games are made for high iq, sorry about that, but only simple people enjoy pusning buttons for hours.
>>743674106>Now that jews have found different mediums to push their propaganda,more like "now that even they admit their plans failed"
>>743674083even baldy seems to be slowing down nowbasically all anti-japan schizos seem to be slowing down after the terminal lucidity from sony killing their physical media and that damage control rushit feels that between this and xjeet having a gorillion layoffs only to hire a gorillion jeets, even the shills know it's basically over for the westand the petrodollar getting raped again and again just drives more nails on the coffin
>>743665305Japan operates under the assumption that the route to success is through semi-niche markets, they historically haven't tried to please everyone. They also had a vertically alligned auteur model of development which ensured design by committee didn't ruin all their games.The issue now is capcom and nintendo have largely moved away from that model and have been granted abnormal amounts of sucess. Both are operating like western AAA just before their collapse and if other japanese studios follow them instead of FROM their entire industry is going to explode.
>>743674268>Pretty much all, literally all, complaints about JRPGs being grindy come from retards skipping all random encounters then only using normal attacks against bosses, then bitching when they inevitably get their shit caved in.No it's actually because JRPGs are grindy.The first true game in the genre, Dragon Quest, is a game essentially about getting to Level 20.
>>743674427Anon, sega, SE and crapcom have always been desperate to be AAA, harada too which was what fucked bamco for like a decade now, I legit have no idea why do people keep using these three to doomfag when they have been making the exact same westoid-pandering mistakes over and over and over and over since the PS3 era.And claiming nintendo only cares about AAA now is laughable when they keep releasing smaller budget games and quadrupled down on that to the point of releasing a game a month now.
>>743674504>The first true game in the genre, Dragon Quest, is a game essentially about getting to Level 20.which eceleb gave you that opinion?
>>743674359>all western games are bad because.... they just are!
>G-GameplayJust play MOBA if you want pure gameplay
>>743674193I really don't care mate. Just stop bitching like a woman and just play shit you like rather than pretedning anyone gives a shit about your worthless effeminate opinion.>TranimeYeah, you are definitely a retard that plays multiplayer online only shooters that are the definition of grind. No other demographic uses this retarded term. You're basically a failed normalfag if you can't even handle an easy ass game like Xenoblade where the whole point is to explore the environments and shit.
>>743674427>They also had a vertically alligned auteur model of development which ensured design by committee didn't ruin all their gamesor a "flat" model of development where nerds fuck around all day like they're in university
>>743674592They literally are, they are all goyslop.
>>743674669>I really don't care mate. Just stop bitching4chan is not a hugbox. If you cannot handle differing opinions, then that is not my problem.>Yeah, you are definitely a retard that plays multiplayer online only shootersActually I enjoy quite a plethora of games. Whether it's titles like Supreme Commander (FAF version for all those sick community content maps), or something as simple as romhacks for already existing games. One of my favorites, ironically, are randomizers for JRPGs, aka Free Enterprise for FF4 and Worlds Collide for FF6. It removes the shitty story from both of them, cuts down all of the dialogue, and just gets me right into the gameplay. Right there it's already a humongous improvement.It's almost as if having NO story is preferable to this silly justification of "oh well just skip le story, maaaan". If it can be skipped, then it shouldn't exist.
>>743674696that just leads to utter collapse from greed, you just get a cult following while you're at it
>>743674816>4chan is not a hugbox. If you cannot handle differing opinions, then that is not my problem.rich coming from the demographic that has been utterly desperate to move any non-antijapan thread to other boards
>>743674816>Only ever lists stuff that can run on a phone.Really not beating the sour grapes due to having dogshit toaster hardware there, baldy.Also, did you stop having mental breakdowns over MP4 being good yet?
>>743674569It's not an opinion, it's a fact.Dragon Quest level gates chunks of its map. If you go into certain areas underequipped (and by extension underleveled, since the only way to get money in the game is to grind or sell off your equipment (which you have to buy with the money)) you just die unless you know enough about the game's inner workings to use your name and map placements to manipulate RNG to guarantee running away, which is basically breaking the game so that doesn't really count as intended play. The game basically breaks down like this>Level 1Beginning area around Tantegal.>Levels 2-3Rest of beginning area around Erdrick's Cave and first eastward bridge.>Levels 4-5Area around Kol (since this is the level where you unlock Sizz).>Levels 6-7Southwest lands / Mountain Cave>Levels 8-11Perpetual grind zone since you can access the harder areas of the Southwest continent, but aren't strong enough to do Haksness or reach Rimuldar.>Levels 12-14Continent around Rimuldar.>Levels 15-17Passage to Cantlin.>Levels 18-20Complete the Rainbow Bridge quest and go to the Dragonlord's castle.That's effectively what you NEED to do in DQ1. You also NEED to buy the highest level equipment because of the game's nature.Magic Armor is basically required for when enemies begin spamming spells or hitting you with heavy attacks, which you also need to prep for Hauksness to get Erdrick's Armor. The best weapon in the game outside of Erdrick's sword costs 9800 gold. Even if you continually lucked out and got Gold Golems all the time, they only pay out 210 gold. You would need to fight FORTY SEVEN of them, and they are not a high chance appearance. They're not low, but you're not going to get 47 in a row even if you go to the island where they have the highest spawn chance.
>>743667020>People mocked Dreamcast games because they were 1:1 arcade ports that cost $60.and with a 2 hours duration
>>743674842hey... i like the linux gaming thing... that was a good thing they done
>>743660264Wdym? Paradise Succubus is the current GOTY tho
>>743674523Nintendo isn't operating like a normal AAA company because they aren't one, they are a platform holder. They ARE operating like a shitty American platform holder, their games are unfocused, repetitive, childish and designed to appeal to everybody and their dog, their output is the same as xbox. Even their development costs are rising because the switch is now stupidly competing with modern console power. Auters have been sidelined, design by committee has taken over and they are back in the retarded hardware arms race.Capcom in the ps3 era was still largely led by the whims of a handful of big name creators, they have all quit or been sidelined. Their production budgets have exploded, their new ip generation has fallen to almost 0 and their focus on resident evil now mirrors ubisoft and assasins creed. This is a problem because last time capcom went retarded and western they flopped, now they have been granted gigantic worldwide success, other publishers and developers will copy their formula.
>>743674936>Normal JRPG progress is le bad because I call it grind.So, from which AI are you getting this from?
>>743674816>It's almost as if having NO story is preferable to this silly justification of "oh well just skip le story, maaaan". If it can be skipped, then it shouldn't exist.That's what I'm saying: you're just an autist that doesn't like ANY story in his games and should just play those. It beats whining about games and genres you don't like over shit you aren't even interested in at all.That's not the games fault. That's yours for not knowing what you do and don't like in games and then repeatedly going beack to the same type of games over and over again. Play games you like and stop pretending your autsitic opinions are universal truths. Not everyone is a short bus rider like you are.
>>743674909>a game HAS to have realistic graphics and require an RTX 5000 because.... it just has to!What a very westoid mindset.
>>743675029I don't get it, man. You demand the freedom to complain about shitty western games, can I not also have the right to complain about shitty games too?
The whole 360 era american AAA push has always been fake and gay and its at the point where they cannot contain the illusion anymore.Part of it is that game journoloid outlets are completely fucking dead and irrelevant now.
>>743660264>after so many years of dormancy?They never were dormant. It's just that the years in the 2010s that normalfags like you perceived to be dormant were years when your lot was obsessed with western AAA games like Skyrim, Bioshock and The Last of Us. The 2000s was dominated by Japan. Most of the best games ever made in this decade were from Japan. The 2010s still had Japan producing amazing titles by companies like From Software, Platinum Games and, of course, Nintendo. And he we are in the 2020s. Japanese games are still the best.
>>743675017>nintendo makes noninnovative kiddy games because i say so!lol
>>743674696What's hilarious to me is that even with infinite money and a history of innovation valve behaves like fucking activision or EA and only releases cynical trend chasing slop. I think this is precisely because their flat structure mandates design by committee, lukewarm shit everybody sort of agrees on is what rules their output.
>>743675115They've released 3 games in the past few months that literally don't have fail states.>Pokopia>Tomodachi Life>Yoshi's Mysterious BookThat alone should qualify them as boring movieshit.
>>743660264I mean it is funny, but this is genuinely how myopic mocking the Japanese had soundedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iwH9S1rSdw
>>743675029>That's yours for not knowing what you do and don't like in games and then repeatedly going beack to the same type of games over and over again.first time talking to ACbald or something? the faggot is a poorfag with a PC that can barely run hollow knighthe literally does nothing but play romhacks for snes games, and ancient indie games over and overby now he's probably sick of it which is why he shits his pants over anything japanese on this board all day all year long
>>743675103I don't complain about western games because I don't play them. I make fun of them or bring them up regarding how they have bad design yes, but they don't preoccupy my mind like you do with JRPGs. I actually know what I like and stick to it and don't care about shit I don't. You actively rant about JRPGs despite not even playing them and hate playing. You are actually autistic if you think it's normal to care about shit you hate or don't like. You are indicative of the type of retard that infests /v/ that would rather spend 10+ hours talking about shit he hates rather than shit he actually likes.All my mentions of Dad of War were in passing. You actively ranted about Chinese cartoon games even though you hate them and never play them. You just come off as an insane retard, which you probably are considering the fact you are here and the fact that you don't like games with stories and shit like that.
>>743675170>fail statesIs this the newest eceleb FOTM buzzword.Also you already got told to get real life achievements instead of larping with pixels on a screen baldy, vidya geims are toys to have fun with, and in the case of jrpgs, to experience a story alongside the gameplay.They are entertainment, esport faggotry was a mistake btw.
>>743675170>They've released 3 games in the past few monthswow, slow down there buddy, that's 3 more games per year than the average anti-nintendo/anti-japan fag can handle per year
>>743675256>I don't complain about western games >I complain about Dad of War
>>743661448Some things will never change.
>>743675256>You actively ranted about Chinese cartoon games even though you hate them and never play them.Reminder he's been doing this for literal years literally non-stop.
>>743675186This is my first time hearing of this retard. At least that puts things into perspective: he's another schizo retard regular on this godforsaken board.I'll ignore him form now on. Thanks for the heads up.>The faggot is a poorfag with a PC that can barely run hollow knight.he literally does nothing but play romhacks for snes games, and ancient indie games over and overHoly shit. What a fucking mong
>>743675115I'm sorry but what is starfox? What is metroid prime 4? What is yoshi and the mysterious book? What is kiby air riders? What is Mario Kart worlds? What is every pokemon released in the last 15 years? It's inarguably non innovative kiddy games meant to appeal to everyone and so nobody. Their games are even starting to ruin themselves with open world years after western AAA started to realise open world was a meme that was ruining their games.
>>743672129>Claims to want gameplay>can't push a single buttonSomething tells me you're mentally retarded
>>743675262>is that a commonly used term to coin a concept that is often discussed in vidya design? AAAAAIIIIYYYYEEEEEEE!! IT MUST BE A BUZZWORD, FOR I AM ALWAYS ON THE CUSP OF VIDYA CULTURE AND DESIGN PHILOSOPHY, NOTHING GETS PASSED ME! SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!
>>743675356>I'm sorry but what is starfox? What is metroid prime 4? What is yoshi and the mysterious book? What is kiby air riders? What is Mario Kart worlds? What is every pokemon released in the last 15 years?Video Games.Any other stupid questions?
>>743660264>How were they able to return to their status as the king of video games after so many years of dormancy? They haven't. Though western AAA games have been extremely lackluster for about 4 years GTA VI will make the japanese industry irrelevant. Not even Nintendo, the only jap company that might be called worthy has a dubious at best claim since metroid 4, pokemon and the starfox remake are of equal quality as decaying western studios.
>>743675350>>743675330>>743675262>>743675186>>743675392>someone says that western games aren't all bad>immediate wall of shitposting and meltdowns
>>743675356>>743675404>>743675443>baldy is already melting down and projectingstar fox, yoshi, "kiby"[sic] air raiders and RHG are not open world gameswipe your tears before posting
>>743675167No, Gabe revealed some university students literally dragged their neuroscience project to valve and kept working on it
>>743675427>nintendo doesnt make noninnovative kiddy games because i say so!What a retarded non argument
>>743675472>>743675427Starfox isn't a video game. Not the switch version at least. It's movieshit. why? Well, you took the N64 version, and then you proceeded to ruin it with muh realistic graphics and muh heckin cinematic story.Whatever happened to "gameplay first"? Why ruin that with bloat and excess?
>>743675404>>743675443I think there's some irony to be had when people into otaku games are telling your bald ass to go touch grass and get IRL achievements instead of getting into "you didn't beat the game/the game it's not hard enough" pissing contests online.
>>743660264They really should learn from westerners, chinese, and koreans about paying shills for "organic" hype though. Their marketing skills are lacking.
ERVO devs>jap devs>other bug devs>ameriblack devs
>>743675540If the SF remake is a movie game then so is terraria, pizza tower and hollow knight due to having more cutscenes and dialogue than SF.Womp womp.
>>743675587i think there's a bit of irony when you can't comprehend that someone wants a bit more of a challenging game just because it's more fun. You can't comprehend that, and assume that it has to be some dick waving contest to show off achievements or something.>>743675635>If the SF remake is a movie game then so is terraria, pizza tower and hollow knight due to having more cutscenes and dialogue than SF.lol I hope you don't actually believe this.
>>743675472Donkey Kong, Mario Kart and metrod prime 4 are, do you really think this isn't a trend? Are you in denial about the origin of this trend? Do you need a break to cope about this encroaching western AAA cancer? Do you want to construct arguments about how open world improved Mario Kart and metroid?
>>743675615westoids, chinks and gooks have wasted millions, maybe even billions, per game in marketing and they still only make flops, not sure what could anyone learn from thatgetting a cult following of third worlders doesn't mean much when they don't actually contribute to revenue
It's funny to look back on the opinion of that cuckold who created FEZ. That was the "official" opinion in the West at the time. The opinion espoused by CEOs, marketing teams, the specialized media, and some tasteless consumers who buy things under pressure.And now that whole shitty empire of ridiculous games is falling apart left and right.
>>743675665>i think there's a bit of irony when you can't comprehend that someone wants a bit more of a challenging game just because it's more fun.i can just get that with no-item runs on jrpgs lol>>743675683>metrodwipe your tears before posting, baldy
>>743675692>And now that whole shitty empire of ridiculous games is falling apart left and right.Not only that, but they have begun to use gubment tax dollars to make their games and studios larp as japanese to try grift people, which ironically enough is admitting japan won and they are desperate for a slice of the pie just like chinks and gooks copying japanese aesthetics with their gachaslop.
>>743675504What does that have to do with anything.
>>743675726>i can just get that with no-item runs on jrpgs lolSo now you have even more content that you need to skip, because the game is a boring, trivial slog so you have to impose more challenges on yourself, something you paid the devs to do, but they failed at their one job.
>>743675692what is phisher fish up to anyway? didn't he shitcan fez2 after a literal woman moment?havent heard of johnny blowjob in years either
>>743675772it means they're like google and they just blow money on the dumbest shit in history
>>743675356>what is starfox? Rail shooter with diverging pathways(actually rather innovative for the genre not the only one to do it but it was rarer than not)>What is metroid prime 4?FPS adventure game using metroid mechanics>What is yoshi and the mysterious book?Actually innovative game that has the player look at various interactions the creatures have with the world and each other>What is kiby air riders?Sequel to Kirby Air Ride a super innovative game that made it's main focus being to only use 1 button(and the stick) the fact so much could be done and done incredibly well at that is definitely innovative >What is Mario Kart world?A sequel to Mario Kart that innovates by taking the standard track layout of both itself and other racing games and thinking about how they could all interconnect as one large world >What is every pokemon released in the last 15 years?A sequel to a highly innovative IP based on catching monsters much like a child would catch insects like stag beetles.
>>743675786nigga, its video gamesi have some moderate success irl and don't need to be so desperate for validation from beating "hard" vidya like you aremake me play westernized "hard" games like rollslop like elden ring and i will cheese it if i feel like it, i don't care, it's video gamesi will also do soloman no-items runs on disgaea if i feel like it, it's video gamesbtw i also played terraria and cheesed all bosses because it was fun due to the building mechanics, feel free to derail the thread shitting your pants about that just like red itself would
>>743675767I get they hate the Japanese but a nigress saying a nuke joke in a faux anime game, these people are demented lol
>>743675847Valve employs like 3 people relative to Google. They aren't burning money on anything, outside their hardware initiatives run by engineers their software output is 100% design by committee trash. Even their hardware output is becoming out of touch and trend chasy.
>Japan is falling behindOnly on the gacha slop market where they allowed the chinese to steal everyones attention with the big budget 3D gacha sloppa titles. Genshin and Co. pushed gacha from otaku degeneracy into the mainstream and that's what Japan missed out on.As far as actual games go? Japan is still king in that regard. Everyone tries to ape their success. Western gaming has been mostly a joke for the last decade with games like Baldurs Gate 3 being the exception - not the rule. Pretty much all big names in the west have completely shat the bed.BethesdaBiowareBungieIWRockstarSome might still make money with microtransaction garbage but the majority either release no games anymore with 6-7 years dev time average and those who do release titles like Ubisoft are generally regarded as trash and failing too.Elden Ring, DK Bananza, Zelda and Co. meanwhile dominate the online discourse and award shows.
>>743675949made with spainard tax dollars by the waythe game is called densha attack in case you want to avoid it
>>743675916>i have some moderate success irl and don't need to be so desperate for validation from beating "hard" vidya like you arewhy do you think that i need validation? Why can't a challenging game just be fun? Why do you assume that people only want challenging games, just to show off their heckin epic gamer score? Are you autistic? Do you not understand the concept?>make me play westernized "hard" games like rollslop like elden ring>Elden Ring is a western gameOkay. So you ARE autistic. My bad.
>>743675987>Why can't a challenging game just be fun?Because he's a normalfaggot, of course.Imagine only playing chess against kids because losing to someone better is "boring." Lol.
>>743675961>Only on the gacha slop market where they allowed the chinese to steal everyones attention with the big budget 3D gacha sloppa titles.Pokemon TCG routinely makes so much money that even by having "combined" rankings where charts pool all the revenue from all the servers of any given gachaslop title, they still have to ignore the JP server for PTCG even exists or it would be glued permanently to the top spot.And even by just counting the westoid PTCG server against "combined" on all other chink gachaslop, PLUS the multipliers, PTCG still routinely hits top numbers.FGO is still done with a literal flash game budget and makes more than even genshit on it's big banners, and that's with the westoid server still being on a 2 year delay or so.Uma musume runs off AA budgets and still routinely competes with the top dogs on the chink side.The idolmaster JP-only gacha also makes so much money that basically all charts ignore it even exists despite that's what allows bamco the money buffer to be so reckless and stupid.
>>743675889Jesus fucking crist, does nintendo pay you to slurp this dogshit toddler media. Starfox is a baby game with retarded western style AAA cutscenes. Prime 4 is a retarded baby game with open world dogshit and western AAA cutscenes, yoshi is the same shitty baby game it has always been, kirby air riders is exactly the same baby 2 button game they released 20+ years ago, Mario Kart world literally plays itself, it's a baby game with western open world dogshit smeared all over it.>pokemon is innovativeIt's not 1999 anymore, wake up.
>>743676123>already having a mental breakdown over people not being brainwashed by you throwing buzzwords at the walllolthe funniest shit of all this nintendo hate is people like me don't even care about nintendo's first party output in the first placenever cared about sony's first party output during the ps1, ps2, psp, or vita eras, because it was all dogshit anyway aside from wipeout which is now deadso i find it funny you care about nintendo's first party output more than i do, so far i have only cared about xenoblade 2, xenoblade genesis, FE engage, and that's kinda it
>>743675961>Pretty much all big names in the west have completely shat the bedWhat's left out with this is it's all of their own creation. They chose short term instant gain over long term stability by pandering to normalfags. They did this with graphical fidelity. Dumb fucks then didn't have the foresight to go "hang on won't graphics be an exponential increase" and now here we are. Made worse they removed anything saving them money so they're spending even more>i.e. instead of designing characters they hire random netflix faggots to face, body scan and motion capture everything on top of voice over making things significantly more expensive than modeling your characters and designing them yourself.I mean think about it we went for entire trilogies completeing over the course of 3 years to there being 2 old trilogies worth of gap between entries in new games.With all these improvements to game dev tech how are we taking longer than what worked 20 years ago? If all that's there are excuses like>muh 4K>muh cinematic appealthen maybe they should take a step back and think about what's needed. Lazy faggots don't even show gameplay until a month or so out from release. How shit at your job are you that you haven't got something playable SIX FUCKING YEARS IN
>>743676219>the funniest shit of all this nintendo hate is people like me don't even care about nintendo's first party output in the first place>but I HAVE to defend Nintendo's honor against the evil haters
>>743676219Dude you defend every tendo slop including bottom of the barrel shovelware like pokemon, you're not fooling anyone, nintendo adult
>Baldy still attention whoring with retarded arguments.What no games does to a mf.
>>743676123>toddler media>baby gamesWe're not talking about Sony's first party games here dumbass. We all saw GOW Laundry's reveal. With in 5 seconds you're being given the solution to basic puzzles. How about you run a stop watch and tell me how long Dora gives you between question and solution? Unless things have changed from the time I watched it nearly 25 years ago it's about DOUBLE the time GOW gave you(that's 10 seconds for your tiny brain) Why is the supposed "mature" game for "mature adults" holding your hand more than the show for literal toddlers.
>>743676359>We all saw GOW Laundry's reveal. With in 5 seconds you're being given the solution to basic puzzlesnigga, its video gamesi have some moderate success irl and don't need to be so desperate for validation from beating "hard" vidya like you are
>>743676221>Dumb fucks then didn't have the foresight to go "hang on won't graphics be an exponential increase" and now here we are.the funniest part is we have been hitting diminishing returns since crysis 1, a game released almost 2 decades ago now and is old enough to legally get shitfaced drunk on most places of the worldand not a single westoid corpo thought quintuping their all in bet on graphics was a bad idea, despite having two goddamn decades to realize the problemmeanwhile picrel told everyone what is happening today, and he did it so long ago that most people shitposting here were not even born yet at that timeand people still pretend japan is slow to adapt despite adapting literally 2 decades before the west and westaboos like square and sega did lmao
>>743676404Even your memes are lazy copies of nintendo stuff.
>>743676404>i have some moderate success irl and don't need to be so desperate for validation from beating "hard" vidya>he thinks Dora the Explorer is "hard vidya"dude... Think before you speak. Now you can never live this down.
>>743676463>>743676478Why complain about Dad of War being super easy, then call people tryhards for wanting harder games? Just ignore the game hints and challenge yourself, bro.
>>743676404>Mf really tried to pull a "n-no u".>And rushed so hard to do so he accidentally said literal toddler stuff like dora are hard games for him.That's how you know a post stung a schizo.Get ready to have "nigga its just video games" copypasted for all eternity proving how assmad the schizo got.
>>743676404>dora the explorer is a hard gameput me on the screencap holy shit
>>743676431>meanwhile picrel told everyone what is happening todayThe only issue with his statement is the delay but even that delay was born from the HD-era and chasing normalfags with even stronger graphical fidelity which would easily out do the AT THE TIME budget. However like Sony is with digital media they believed their own farts didn't stink and thought they were super geniuses because they made even more than before. They didn't think of longevity. They thought like shareholders and accelerated. Now they're getting random netflix faggots acting out characters and laying off hundreds of staff when the game releases because they don't make enough. Hell, they STILL don't understand what Yamauchi's warning was about.
>anime poster has resorted to samefagging
>>743676404>>743676506now i know why nintendo derangement syndrome fags call games like astro turf "hard", it must really be the dark souls of toddler games for people that consider dora a hard game
>>743676656Anon, can you at least pretend to not samefag? This is getting pathetic. You are so desperate for a gotcha that you will take anything.
Europe since 2020>Cyberpunk >BG3>E33>it takes 2>KCD2>Helldivers 2Japan>Elden ring
>>743676705>Makes yet another generational blunder, after constant typos from teary eyed posting no less.>He thinks only one person is mocking him.
>>743676712weebtroons won't like this one
>>743676626its still funny to see people falling for the "japan fumbled the HD era!" meme"japan" didn't, the usual goyslop trio of SE, capcom and sega did, and even then realistically speaking capcom had consistent AA output and at the time and SE was far more prolific with AA titles then as well, so it was pretty much just sega (which makes me believe the ones primarily parroting this meme are sonic niggers, but i have no proof)then again people only ever seem to care about the AAA output of these three companies when they think of "japan", so what do i know?
>>743676656I mean you have to remember hereGame journalists>Called Crash Bandicoot, the Dark Souls of platformers. A game many of us beat when we were children and really just requires you to pay attention and think a little>Got filtered by basic literacy and problem solving for 5 year olds - Cup Head Tutorial>Got filtered by a loop de loop in GREEN HILL ZONE>Got filtered by basic mechanics and animations. Additionally another journo was THIS close to saying the game was like Dark Souls(claiming the game was difficult and unforgiving) - Spongebob Squarepants Battle for Bikini Bottom RehydratedNotice the pattern here? Not a single M rated game to be found. Children's games challenge them. So called "mature" games don't.
>>743676219Kek, why the fuck are you going line by line to defend their most shitty releases then? Do you think I'm going to be writing about how innovative and amazing horizon zero dawn, God of war and last of us are for any reason than being a dumbfuck sony fanboy? You're a tendie, if you weren't you wouldn't even have the energy to engage in this retarded argument.
>>743676756>makes another generational blunderSo you can't decide if casual baby games are bad or good. Not even a moment ago you called me a faggot tryhard for wanting more difficult games, so this schtick doesn't work for you at all.
>>743660264All those awards couldn't save the western devs from their industry crashing?
>>743676705baldnigga, it's just video games (discussion)take the L and leave, then hope people don't bring it up in the future (they will)
>>743661924This is honestly one the strangest things when it comes to /v/. People here insists how smart they are, but they are either kneejerk contrarians or supports AAA slop. Or even worse, parrots fucking e-celeb opinions. Especially the "grifter" kind who just whines and rages over everything.Like see how many on this board nonstop pours money to multimillion and billion corpos while complaining how sloppy those games are.When the Fallout remakes/remasters come out, majority of anons here will buy it day one or even worse fucking preorder them. Same with GTA VI. Most here prob have already pre-ordered it.Then take into account something like Valve and the bs they pull off while this board simps Gaben nonstop and cheers for millionaires and billionaires. Its like I'm in parody universe sometimes.
>>743676359>immediate console war vomit I dont give a fuck about sony, I'm not even going to read that bullshit.
>>743676807>>Got filtered by a loop de loop in GREEN HILL ZONEOver the years I didn't hear this one, the other ones I did but not this.Vid? Sounds funny.
>>743676712Look at these irrelevant games holy shitEuros done
>>743676863>tendie gets caught samefagging and desperately tries to save face
>>743676824Baldfag, you ARE a faggot tryhard, not because you want more difficult games, but because you shit your pants over people not worshipping the games you like and think are hardcore and instead prefer JP games like JRPGs.In simpler terms, you're a faggot for trying to force your taste on other people, like all faggot westoids always do.Then again I don't expect someone with journo tier skills that gets filtered by dora the explorer to really have the reading comprehension needed to understand this.
>>743675615They pay vtubers to shill their games and it seems to work. Koreans are spamming 4chan like a fucking meme coin bot, I dont think anyone expects any first world developer to stoop that low.
>>743660264They stayed (mostly) true to their values. The west went full pants on head retarded with their DEI shit and microtransactions/GaaS.
>>743676805The focus was entirely on AAA and calling anything non-realistic a "PS2 game"A lot of the "Japan fumbled the HD era" memes were about Japan not increasing their budgets and operating linearly(small increases like they did with the jump from 5th to 6th) over the start of the exponential increase the west started.Of course you wouldn't notice this right away because an exponential starts off about the same as the linear increase until it just starts spiking up.As for your comments on Sega, this was still before the spike Yakuza gave and the only big HD era games they had were 06, Unleashed and Generations. Persona 5 technically though it only really spiked when the PS4 version released in English. I don't think it would be them. More than likely it's western industry side since they wanted to usurp Japan's control.>DoA started to get attacked>Looks like a PS2 game was used against anything not having hyper realistic graphics and a piss filterIt also came with the anti-arcade push where everything arcades had brought to gaming was called outdated and we started to see the>I cleared this part already, making me replay it is bad game designargument.
>>743676712Every game on that list is terrible
>>743677085>They pay vtubers to shill their games and it seems to workThe other way around, vtuber agencies effectively do it for free because they NEED the "content", and independent vtubers basically have no choice in the first place and also do it for free.At most they will ask for a free copy of the game, and indie vtubers don't tend to get even that luxury.It's only westoid faggot ecelebs that demand fat bucks and still just shit out halfassed videos shitting on the games anyway.
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>>743677221Name 5 games better from the last 6 years
>>743677034>Baldfag, you ARE a faggot tryhard, not because you want more difficult games, but because you shit your pants over people not worshipping the games you like and think are hardcore and instead prefer JP games like JRPGs.Funny you say this, since JRPGs are basically Dora the Explorer, Japan.Not that I've ever even played anything with Dora the Explorer, let alone struggled with it, but you need some kind of gotcha because your hypocrisy got called out, so you desperately latch onto a typo. For crying out loud, you're defending literal movieshit like Pokopia and Yoshi's Mysteriuos Book and Metroid Prime 4, while claiming that "you don't care about Nintendo's first party lineup". Who do you think you're fooling?
>>743676876>I dont give a fuck about sony, I'm not even going to read that bullshit>already responded angrily over the Dora comparison using a copy paste response>accidentally said Dora was too hard for him>now coping over totally being above all thisYou really should think before you speak
>>743665305Because you need that weirdness (a soul) to be able to make good games
>>743677271is this on a game before sega added the charge dash? i dunno sanic
>>743676953More relevant than Starflop and Floptroid lol
>>743677337Not even the same person. kek you're terrible at this.
>>743677318not gonna read schizobabble from a retard that thinks dora is too hard for him, sorryi have better things to do with my time like discussing jp media
>>743676805I agree on the capcom and squenix point, capcom never had a "dark age" that is stupid bullshit from e-celebs and resident evil fans, square enix is also worse now than it was back then. Japan was outclassed by western studios in the transition to HD era though and nintendo was a part of the image of Japan failing to compete since the wii fell off a cliff after launch hype died down. A bunch of smaller japanese studios also shut down or flirted with bankruptcy in that era
>>743677318>JRPGs are basically Dora the Explorer, Japan>No. 1 complaint from retards when it comes to JRPGs are that they don't know where to go next or that they should've done something earlier to make their lives easier. For something to be Dora it needs to not just hold your hand but guide you every step of the way to make sure you know where to go.JRPGs are notorious among normalfag retards for the opposite.
>>743677398>>from a retard that thinks dora is too hard for himWhere was this said?
>>743677440>No. 1 complaint from retards when it comes to JRPGs are that they don't know where to go next or that they should've done something earlier to make their lives easier. For something to be Dora it needs to not just hold your hand but guide you every step of the way to make sure you know where to go.I'll take "things that never happened" for 500.
>>743677449Right here >>743676404
>>743677496>ctrl+f "dora">0 results in that postYou okay, anon?
>>743677482>>743674268
>>743677540Read the post he's replying to, retard.
>>743677425>capcom never had a "dark age" that is stupid bullshit from e-celebs and resident evil fansAlso from DMCniggers.
>>743675889>Star FoxA pretty good, straightforward remakeNot sure why the game even has a lives system anymore when they rendered it pointless tho>Metroid Prime 4An abortion that shows why tards need to be wrangled>YoshiPuzzle platformer with no failstates, not really interesting if you're above age 8>Kirby Air RidersExcellent racan game, probably the best game on the console right now>Mario Kart WorldWhat should be an excellent racan game ruined by insistence on a slopen world being shoehorned inBasically the dark timeline version of Air Riders>PokemonA franchise that does everything it can to not evolve outside spinoffsZA is an interesting experiment with combat that could be developed much further but they probably will never revisit this battle system again (or they'll do something similar and pretend it's a new thing in like 10-15 years)
>>743677587But he doesn't mention any Dora games.
>>743677425>Japan was outclassed by western studios in the transition to HD era thoughduring the trannysition era JRPGs on the DS/3DS and psp/vita pretty much raped everyone else in terms of profits anonthere's a reason faglus desperately tried to make that niche appealing to normalfags with persona 3, somewhat managed to wrangle them with persona 4, and only succeeded in making it for mainstream toddlers with 5i will also remind you this is the time where xenoblade started to rape the west so hard that westoid retailers straight up had to cope by trying to short stock it to try make it fail, and it still was a financial success even in the west (not to mention NoA straight up sabotaging the japanese branch by refusing to localize JRPGs until rainfall 1 happened)
>>743677337I will repeat I dont give a fuck about sony, do you want to whine about microsoft too? Wanna have a little fight about the dreamcast and sonic? Oh boy the sega megadrive really boils my blood.>the console wars! I have to fight about irrelevant shit nobody cares about, you have to care, you're so mad I hate sony! Every criticism of nintendo MUST be about sony!This isn't funny or interesting as an ironic shitpost so what is it? Genuine mental ilness? Are there really 30+ year old men fighting console wars in 2026?
Not hard to do when the western industry shot its dick off. Figuratively and literally.
>>743677614Even though dmc 4 is better than dmc 5. I think dmc basically never came back and is still dead.
>>743677758>Are there really 30+ year old men fighting console wars in 2026?Either that or they're unironic weebs with some kind of mental illness. Like they will throw even JP developers under the bus if their games are too "westernized" like Elden Ring.
>Baldy doubles down on the dora shit instead of just sweeping it under the rug.Congratulations, now everyone will remember it and mock you for it.Fucking retard.
>>743677717Atlus was going bankrupt in that era you delusional jrpg slorper.
>>743677658Are you illiterate?>Retard-kun calls Tendie games "toddler media" and "baby games">Anon then brings up GOW's new reveal trailer and compared it's time between basic puzzle and the solution being told to the player(around 5 seconds) to his memories of Dora the Explorer(double the time, 10 seconds)>Retard-kun then responds with "nigga, its video games. i have some moderate success irl and don't need to be so desperate for validation from beating "hard" vidya like you are">"hard" vidyaWhen the comparison in question is with Dora the Explorer, a show for literal toddlers.Retard-kun in his seethe used a copy pasted comment without thinking first and accidentally implied he thought Dora was "hard."
>>743660264>Do you remember the days when people used to mock Japanese gamesYeah when "people" were epstein class jewish subversives in games journalism
>make games>winhow indeed
>>743677873>When the comparison in question is with Dora the Explorer, a show for literal toddlers.Why did you associate "hard media" with Dora the Explorer?
>>743677928Because of the irony of it.>Mature game for mature gamers>holds your hand more than toddler's edutainment show on Nick JrIt's basic comedy
>>743660264Are these years of dormancy in the room with us right now?
>>743677873>Retard-kun calls Tendie games "toddler media" and "baby gamesThat was me>Retard-kun then responds with "nigga, its video games. i have some moderate success irl and don't need to be so desperate for validation from beating "hard" vidya like you are"That was some other cringe retardYou need to understand you are arguing with more than one person.
>>743678054>You need to understand you are arguing with more than one person.You expect too much of these people.
>>743660264Jewpan is losing to its neighbors lmao.
>>743660264GTA 6 will sell more than every Japanese game released this year combined, why bother?
>>743678219>GTA 6 will sell more than every Japanese game released this year combinedRevenue != profitTheir budget is $2b+. The fact there's all manner of jeet marketer coping over preorder numbers and Sony losing out on their marketing rights for the game something tells me numbers while high aren't what they need to make back 2 BILLION dollars plus.>but muh GTA onlineConfirmed to be a separate release, GTA6 is single player only
>>743678302>already coping
>>743678410The whole thread is copium. TF did you expect?
>>743660264Japanese games dying was a psyop to begin with. It was only propped up because there was a stream of good western games that you could be directed towards over Japanese games. Then western games went to shit and there was no alternative that could be used to direct you away from Japanese games.
>>743678219>>743678410GTA6 sells, cool.Then what?What does the west have after that to follow that up?
>>743678627One game BTFOs the entire Japanese gaming industry>o-one g-Quality>Quantity, reminder that most gamers buy less than 5 games per year.
>>743678685>it's fine the west releases one game each decade and halfshazam.jpg
>>743678789>One 9/10 game you will play for years vs. 100 6/10 games you will play for a few days at best
>>743676805no it was always just journo speak.journoloids were specifically shitting on japan to make way for american console AAA with the 360.
>>743678862I like how even the most deranged westoid shills would consider "the most hyped generational game ever" a mere 9/10 LMAO.
>>743679030There are no 10/10 games.
>>743679071xenoblade chronicles 2 and FE engage existfeel free to cope until bump limit tho
>>743679109Xenoflop Troonicles and Troon Emblem: Troongage? 10/10?
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>>743679271You didn't show me the examples of 10/10s.
>>743679271You did that here >>743677221>>743676953Weebs have zero self-awareness.
>>743679342>>>743679271 (You)>You did that here >>743677221>>>743676953Lol.You're fighting the voices in your head again.And losing, again.No wonder you think dora is difficult shit for hardcore gamers.
>>743660264>Do you remember the days when people used to mock Japanese games by comparing them to titles like Assassin's CreedOnly retards did this and we called them fags then too. ESPECIALLY the asscreed fags, that entire franchise was mediocre from the beginning and only got worse.
>>743679395>schizo babble
