Damn this game is kino and free.
if a game is free, (You) are the product
is the next one about to come out or something?this is one of the few games i've pirated then went and bought after i finished it
>>743667039it's coming out today
>>743667039Its coming out in like a few hours.
>>743666880I really dig the worldbuilding and characters. Long live the Emperor and may the nobility die. Bureaucratic Illustrated Despotism or death
>>743667049>>743667190oh shit, that's awesome. didn't actually expect that.
I wondered why I saw a thread about this yesterday. Guess I'll play it.
>>743666880A VN?
>>743667610More like the text adventure. There's not super many cgs.I fucking loved this song and the moment it was used in the first timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg40YVZyXLo
>>743667562The devs made the first game free-to-keep for a few days to celebrate the sequel releasing today. Its why the player count is so high rn
>>743667716My favorite track is the one which plays when you're in a noble party/ball.
Noblechads, were you able to slay the vile bluenigger?
>>743669576Yes. One of the best moments in the game to finally kick that fucker's jaw.
too many words
>>743669859This isn’t a lol thread.
>>743669576I think you can fight him and win as a child on the normie route.Tho maybe that was some other dude...
>>743670104that's your friend not the arknian
>>743670182No no, I mean when you're a child and he is an adult. When you help Sophia to break free you can kinda overpower him for a moment and then flee.
Any other good text based games like this one?
>>743670562Disco Elysium?
>>743670562gameplay is way different, but i really liked roadwarden
>>743670562Suzerain is very good.
>>743666880>>743670695>You are deeply fascinated by the history of the world and the events of the game,>Filler family route begins
>>743670864>>Filler family route beginsIt's not filler.
>>743670864>french revolution with a bit of unnecessary ooga booga animismfascinating
>>743666880The prose itself is solid, but the mechanical part is absolutely dogshit. Exemplified by how >>743669576 is constrained to a very specific path, and the fact that the default setting is SHOW ME THE STAT BREAKPOINTS FOR THE EVENTS IN THE FOLLOWING CHAPTER BECAUSE THE SYSTEM DOESN'T FUCKING WORK IF YOU ARE NOT PLAYING BY ITS RULES.The peasant route had a nice twist, and there are a bunch of crazy girls if you're into that, but if you can tolerate awful mechanics then Alexis Kennedy's games are more engaging. Also any text game that can't implement builtin Ren'Py options warrants a beating of the developers, replays are a fucking slog.
>>743670873>don't pay attention to your family and don't do anything for them.>NOOOO WE HATE YOU WE ARE NOT FAMILY ANYMORE>Nothing else changesIt is filler. I'm creating history, why would I care if my older brother I never liked was put in jail?
>>743670695>accept all bribes>own a soccer team>enact no social policy>win a war>cruise into second term beloved by country
>>743670997the stat breakdowns have razor thin margins. i think some sort of meta stat you could cash in for temp boosts or just 1 point of leeway with a lot of choices would have done a better job of allowing players to sway the narrative.
Was anyone able to please both Arkanians and commoners in the demo? I focused on trying to send out the new world expedition but what I think really fucked me was trying to unite the family, only to find out they aren't worth uniting.I am just guessing at this point, but I think the new world expedition is going to give you shit tons of wealth one way or another.Uniting the family will make schemes against you much less likely.Uniting nobility and commoners will make reform much smoother.>>743670864Family in Suzerain is downright terrible. Literally the only ones who aren't bitches or retards are your daughter in Sordland and your mom in Rizia.
>>743671027Same but>accept all bribes>nationalize the entire industry>imprison all political opponents and other undesirables>lose war horribly >die in a gunfight inside your office
>>743671138also>bring the country to economic depression
>>743671138Couldn't be me.
Winning a solo war against Rumburg was very cool.
>>743670864Real
>>743671027taken as a whole, original suzerain tends to be hilarious>currying favors by NOT letting your wife do any speeches>helping your neighbor with the bludish question and then going i dindu nuffin at the bootleg league of nations>"people describe you as a radical centrist">literally promising the moon in the second term epiloguethe biggest problem is very little reactivity across the years, most things just sorta happen by themselves regardless, and you only have the option of how to respond
i think the Family is just there to be a huge fucking impediment and pain in the ass to keep Unity up>I AM LE STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN WEARING MEN'S CLOTHES! LISTEN TO MY POETRY>stfu pleb i'm going to marry you off.>AIEEE ENTER IN TO A SECRET PLOT TO KILL STEFAN FOR ME PLZ>little bro: *does a lot of drugs and has degenerate orgies in the background*jesus christ.
>>743671138badass
>>743671415If a character has a family from the start of the game, they are always there to be a burden. It would be a miracle if, after you decided to be loyal to them, they would contribute at least some help at the end of the game, like in the Beholder where you degenerate son actually helps you flee the country if you helped him first.
>>743671415i felt this way about the childhood friend. like bro, how many fucking times do i have to help you? do you ever plan on returning the favor? the ring is a fuckin trap.
>>743666880It's a good way to market their next game, I'll pirate anyway.
>>743671126I tried getting the event where you're liked by everyone + uniting the family but sadly it didn't work. I think you can only get one or the other.
>>743671415Don't you DARE badmouth SAINThan.
>>743671126Your son becomes based if you send him to the army.
>>743671708He dies in a war tho
>>743671670I'm sure you can get both but only if you metagame the fuck out of the game.
>>743671771Sounds like his problem.
>>743671813eh i already redid it many times to get both but it didn't work out. I don't think its possible honestly, since the game says you need to balance your family plus the kingdom
>>743671964also to add, I also tried getting the additional family events for your mom and dad plus the unity thing. Maybe it is possible to get "beloved by all" if I just chose to skip one of those family events.
>>743672185You can do it it's just hard.
I wanted to side with grandpa more and put poorfags in their place. The game practically railroads you into siding with the poorfags.
>>743672351anon, its practically a dystopian setting where giant, blue-skinned humanoids see you as literally beneath them. the fuck did you expect?blood tides and all the other magic rituals originate from arknian culture
>>743672339Eh fuck it, i'll just buy the game and see how far i can get with my build. I intend to play it multiple times like with the Sir brante one anyways,>mfw getting smothered by lucrezia's (canon fiance) huge tits
>>743672351>Born into an oppressed class>Dreams of becoming an oppressor instead of overthrowing them.Brown.
>>743666880The alien subplot was hella retarded.Also both times I played I ended up with the commies for some reason, despite trying to be a loyalist.
>>743672392What does that have to do with keeping women in their place? I was really displeased being made to work with that witch who I let get run over by a chariot. No matter how much I betrayed them they never gave me an option to kill them outright. I even tried ratting her out to some blueskin noble. She just fled.
>>743672497>ended up with the commies for some reason, despite trying to be a loyalist.
>>743672525You can kill her in last 2 acts
Ah, another Russian game I won't play.
>>743671708>becomes basedYou mean becomes a loyal servant of your masters?
>>743672476They deserve to be opressed. There is a path to being a noble through being a contributor to society. They not only spite the will of the gods by rejecting their lot in life they are also refusing to better themselves.
>>743672603Might be worth trying again for that alone.
>>743672628>theyYOU, nigga. You are the oppressed.
>>743672628>spite the will of the gods>get the ability to sentence anyone to True Death if enough people vote toI don't know man..
>>743672685Nah I'm on that grindset. The nobles like me. Can't say the same for the impudent who refuse to conform to society.
>>743672742>if i pick enough cotton maybe massa will let me own land too
>>743672626>Your mastersYou are the president?
>>743672626??
>>743672718They gave some fluff lore reason where they said the gods were cool with it. I don't expect richfags to be good people.>>743672779Crab in a bucket. Enjoy sweating out in the fields singing them songs cursing me as an uncle tom while I enjoy the indoors.
>>743672816>He didn't play the gameIron law of oligarchy my son
is it better to go commie or neolib in suzerain
>>743672847>He played once as an oligarch's henchmanYou know you don't need to suck their cocks, right? You can steel their shit and jail them all.
>>743672907Neolib in Sordland.Status quo/authoritarian in Rizia.
>>743672923>steelI mean, steal...
>>743672907I thought neolib was easier to get an ending where I didn't either get couped or killed. I never won a second term tho as lib thoubeit.
>>743672907trying to tread a middle path just seems to get you hated by everyone. felt like the game favored the neolib/western aligned approach tho.
Apparently they AI slopped art in the new one? I really liked the first game, but I don't wanna pay for lazy job.
>>743673073>I don't wanna payDon't pay then.
>>743673123Yeah I'll steal the game if it's true.
Is it still a video game if there is no video?
>>743672847>oligarchyWho?
>>743673245It's still an elite ruling class virtually no different in practise.>Hierarchical structure in nature>Guy at the top obviously doing better than everyone else>Power is also held tightly in an organised minority at the top of the hierarchySame shit different name
>>743673316Yeah, with a single difference that it's ME who's on top, so no masters for me.
>>743672628>the will of the gods They don't punish anyone with their wrath if they defy their lots. The lotless frequently take up arms and kill nobles throughout the game. The only time they show their anger is when the old and new doctrine clash happens and they destroy the tree. The elder even comes down and asks you and Nathan for advice in fixing their fuckups>>743672779Lmao bodied that freak
>>743666880>I died a virgin 4 times
>>743670562Esoteric Ebb
>>743673073I only see one russian guy saying this in steam discussion, but can't find any confirmation about ai usage
>>743673073lmao
Is this the new faith I've heard so much about?
>>743674432https://dtf.ru/id1292766/5194283-neyrohruchyevo-v-neyrobranteI'm not sure how true this is, I'll play the game myself before coming to conclusions
I just played through it, it was a fun 5 hours. A bit too easy though, I wasn't expecting to lead the rebellion and win on a single playthrough, my only 2 deaths were because of fucking Tommas but he came back in the epilogue so I'll forgive him.I assume if you don't let Octavia become a La-Tari she becomes miserable and kills herself or something, which is a shame because I enjoyed the blue pussy.
>>743674698you can see comparison to first game later in replies, It has same problems (fingers, duplicatre objects in picture), I think artist simply doesn't give a fuck and makes mistakes without correcting it later
>>743674698Oh wow what the fuck, the dev responded to that ~an hour ago. Snipping the start of it, though there's more you can go read for yourself>Sometimes AI served as a form of communication within the team. We used it when assigning tasks to artists—primarily so that someone who couldn't draw (like me) could more quickly explain to the art department what they wanted to achieve and show reference.>So, we know from experience that humans make mistakes just as often as AI.>I realize this answer is unlikely to convince anyone. Perhaps this is truly part of the modern internet: if there's a suspicion of AI being used, the dispute almost never ends with a respectful handshake.
>>743676384>hired artists>used AI in communication>but there's no way any of those artists might've been lazy and just inpainted with AI slop!It's funny every time.
>>743676384The fact that he didn't say "No AI was used in the creation of our work" is suspicious. Nobody thinks using Google AI to convey something to an artist means you used AI in your work.This smells fishy.
yikes sisters i cant support ai-using burguesia stealing jobs from our hard working comrades
>>743676654No one cares that you have the standards of an Indian
>>743676654thanks for the input, rajhesh
white power
not many know this, but hitler's prison essay was actually about how using AI is wrong
>>743670562Maybe not exactly the same but Veritas Tales is kino
Since this is an artsy ready game thread, I would like to present to the esteemed anonymous public, the most interestingly dogshit piece of "interactive fiction" I've had the displeasure of reading. A simple look or three at the store page will tell you to dismiss the thing, and that instinct is entirely right, provided you have sufficiently high level of racism. But as a man who spent his hard-earned wagiebuxx, I must warn people easily baited by stylistics (like myself) for posterity. If nothing else, I want you all to know the following list of sins (presented in non-decreasing order of severity) committed by Inhuman Resources:>developers are Canadian, and some art grant is credited>the term "capitalism" is used in video-essayist sense>default placeholder name is Finnegan Joyce>there are constant mentions of how (you) feel in any situation>approximately zero wit employed in the prose, despite the titleThe whole ""adventure"" is one big pathetic glimpse into the mentality of some self-loathing member of NA intelligentsia. Which is what makes the denouement, following a shonen-tier twist involving player character's heritage, truly hilarious. What loathsome creatures those creative types are, too weak to fight, too cowardly to run, and yet so conceited as to expect to inherit the machine. Have suspicions that it was a prototype/demo for a text adventure Unity plugin, that's a nice backdrop to the plot. Go play Anthology of the Killer for some real outsider art instead.
>>743677475>that japanese attention to PC customization, that is to say none>all 3 language packs downloaded at once, despite being clearly separated files>no instant text, no decision shortcuts, no quickload>in a game with ye olden choose thine own adventure bad ends everywherewitch PC is cute, but that's not enoughif it's at least "fabled lands" tier of wholesome murderous adventuring, then i'll power through, but my patience sure is fucking tried
Since we're all advertising games here, may I interest you in this gem? It took 624,000 hours to make!https://store.steampowered.com/agecheck/app/489830/
>>743677978>/agecheck/roddy-kun...
should be like an hour before release
>>743666880I still miss you, Superhans.
>>743674698>>743676384Art director steps in, says "100% of the art is hand-drawn." After reading the main dev defending AI and admitting they use it, I don't believe him.
>>743676384During the kickstarter:>We DO NOT use AI in any wayAfter they have your money:>Sometimes AI served as a form of communication within the team.
>>743678536In their defense, It's possible that the main dev is retarded and had no clue but decided to yap anyway. Some people have low impulse control.Especially since the art director is saying 100% of the art is handrawn.
>>743679267Don't think they've used AI for the game, but show me if I'm wrong.
>>743679027>>743678536did you check their twitter feeds for opinions aswell? fucking trash
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It's up.
Is it up on torrents already?
>>743682663I haven't seen it on the places I usually check yet, they're slacking. Give it another hour, I guess.
Best path?
>>743672623What are the other ones? Vangers?
>>743682874who knows bro it literally came out, I guess it's gonna be the path where you just tardwrangle the retards among you
>>743682820keep me posted friend
>>743674304Seconding this. I went in expecting basically just a Disco Elysium reskin, but it was genuinely very good. Obviously heavily inspired by DE, but not just a soulless clone
>>743672457who the fuck is lucrezia?
>>743683241shes jerian's fiance in the new game
>>743683891and she has huge cans? niceany tips for playing? I found the first one had an extremely specific playstyle for anything you wanted to (successfully) do
>>743683935Pretty sure it's gonna be the same, try to specialize your build and try to figure out the paths you want to choose.
>>743683935>any tips for playing?The game is very different. I don't know how many routes there are but you basically need to tardwrangle your family and the relationship with the empire estates. Unlike with brante, you get base stats (such as Diplomacy) from the beginning which progressively levels up each chapter depending on event choices
>>743684016I mean sure I just felt like a headless chicken trying to do anything, felt a lot like Age of Decadence now that I think about it
>mentions of a shadow near the TwinsOk this will be kino.
>>743684220 Based knower. I'm curious how often they'll reference the previous game, probably not too often tho
Ferdinand seems like a cool dude. I'm guessing hes the equivalent for Tommas here.
>>743682820Anything yet? Nothing on rutracker still.
Does the 1st choice matter?
>>743684220That shit was complete ass though. You don't get to pull such "who is the third who walks always beside you" mysticism with all the obviously divine influence. Also it's thematically inconsistent nonsense.>church route all about muh will>opposing at the critical junction, thus enforcing your will, just puts you onto regular final act>submitting at the critical junction, thus following another's will, gets you a weird alt end and vaporized by literal divine judgment
Dog
>>743685838the only person who isn't trying to manipulate you
Game is up on cs rin, probably elsewhere too.
>>743685838>la tari dog
>>743686014nice thanks for heads-up
>>743670997>you can tolerate awful mechanicsThere's nothing wrong with AK's game mechanics
>>743685838Why is there a paw growing out of her ass?
>>743672476It's a slave mentality, yes
>>743673819You literally can't die as a virgin if you go church route.
>>743674698Half of his examples of "ai usage" is just him being a retard desperate for some controversy. Not to mention there has already been cases of imbeciles crying AI when seeing examples of classical art (Monet's lilies for example). Everyone who screeches that "THIS IS AI FOR SURE I CAN TELL FROM SOME OF THE PIXELS AND FROM SEEING QUITE A FEW AI IN MY TIME" can be safely disregarded
>>743674719>she becomes miserable and kills herself or somethingWho cares? Blueniggers deserve the noose. Send her into the mines to cure her boredom
>>743685838Did his duty for gods and empire.
>>743683935Retards on steamforum already crying that your decisions can sometimes have unpredictable negative consequences. Why even play this game if you just want to have your peepee kissed?
>>743688483shit like this happens with every cyoa type game, just ignore the retards
>>743688483Isn't the whole point of this game and the last one that you can't get to do everything you want in one run?
>>743688969No, the point of this games is that you can't get to do anything on the first run and then you can do everything in the next run because you already know what to do.
>>743686014>cs rinI don't see it
>>743689497nvm, I found it
> the first Emperor was a fucking tyrant who killed the senators of Not!Rome aka the arknian republic > You have a younger brother who is a fucking witch What the actual fuck. The sequel is insane.
Jeet AI slop
The sanity options besides the first one feel like big traps.
>"learned fencing with my father" trait>never had a chance to use it because I'm not a nobleman>tried to max out Scheming>couldn't use it in the final battle for the rebel commander role because I was only 1 point short from 20>Used Valor instead because it somehow reached the required value
>>743676384>three yearsno wondershould've used ai and made it in one
Agatha best girl.
>>743677682oh, i don't like how it sounds, I guess I'll stay away of it anthology of the killer doesn't have the cyoa or choices matter tag though, I think this is more of a cyoa than an artsy thread.
>>743690193>First oneBased>Second oneYeah he's a faggot
>>743690548They fuck you progressively harder
>>743690548yeah the sanity options are a pain in the ass. I feel like there are too many of them.
So what's your opinion on Jerian so far? Does it have the same kino start as brante with you literally being born?
>>743692706IMO yes. And the game only gets more batshit as the chapters progress lol. >>743690193 are just a handful of mind boggling revelations.
>>743692706It's AI slop
>>743693014keep repeating that lie subhuman
>>743693035saaar you subhuman saar india superpower 2027
The game ain't free, nothing is. Todd "WE OWN THIS IP" Howard ain't my lead dev. The tree of gaming must be watered with AAA flops.EVE from Stellar Blade not STEVE from Baldur's Gate okay. Praise Gaben.
>>743693146???
>>743666880It's not even a real game, it's a literal cyoa book
>>743671415The childhood friend was even worse. He suddenly gives you a marriage proposal, and then does jack shit but ask you for gibbs the entire game.
>>743672351The grandpa sucks ass. I got (wrong) advice in this thread to be friendly to him if you're going noble, which is a trap. All that does is bypass a 10 point skill check. You can be as mean as you want to him and he'll still love you if you become a noble.
>>743693625>You can be as mean as you want to him and he'll still love you if you become a noble.Yeah. That's like, his bigest dream or something.
>>743671027Replace "win a war" with "lose a war", and you got Peronism.
>>743672497All the romances are terrible. First run I tried romancing the blue lady, until she suddenly kills herself and becomes an alien bird that spouts vagueposts. The other two romances are hardcoded to always turn against you because of the revolution. This shit is dumb.
Is Jerian canon to the first game? I remember he briefly shows up in Brante. Are they happening at the same time?
>>743693795He is in the first game but the timeline of events seem to be different. Its probably an alternate reality.
>>743688969The point of these games is to fail miserably and then follow a guide if you want to get anything done.
>>743693793>The other two romances are hardcoded to always turn against you because of the revolutionMakes sense for Sophia since she's ahother rebel leader and they are known for betraying each other. What about the last girl?
>>743693989Jeanne always becomes the leader of the inquisition. If you're a loyalist she injures herself and you can let somebody else take over. If you're a rebel you have to fight her. All the love interests don't value your romance at all.
>>743693989Jeanne doesn't betray you unless you're a New Faith believer but even then you can convince her to surrender and join your side. I don't really get the problem here.
>>743694159You can only convert her after defeating her. She always picks up a sword against the new faith.
>>743671415I think that helps it feel pretty satisfying when I manage to keep their retarded asses unified and even turn some of the lives around in the ending, at least.
>>743672351It's set during revolutionary times. Siding against the coming tide, instead of riding the wave, is naturally going to be much more difficult.
>"sure, he's handsome, strong, a respected noble, has been in love with me for the past 10 years and marrying him would allow me to live out the lifestyle I always dreamed of...">"but he gives me the ick"
>>743695017he doesnt think of her as a person
Sir Brante is a decent visual novel for the first three chapters, and falls apart in the last two purely due to the utterly insane stat requirement. I minmaxed about as well as a blind player could, but it was nowhere close to good enough. Passing stat checks leads to more stat increases that lead to passing more stat checks etc. This creates a feedback loop meaning if your stats ever fall 1 point below the target, you enter a death spiral and can no longer make choices. Utterly insane design decision that the developers should be mocked for.
>>743695095Neither does any other man of a woman.
>>743695204>debugs youre path
>>743695017Suzerain also has this shit. Your wife is a bitch that values feminist activism above your marriage. What a utter wench.
>>743695204you kidding? the fourth chapter is the most fun. So many twists and turns regardless of which path you pick
>>743671415This was extra funny in my route cause there was literally a civil fucking war brewing outside, terrorists bombing buildings and statues, people afraid to even sleep at night, and I gotta deal with my fucking sister wanting to wear men's clothes and read poetry and my stupid brother wanting to marry her off, can't you fucks put this on hold until later?! I need my willpower for more important shit.>>743695204Yeah I find it kinda dumb that "passing a stat check is the only way to increase that stat". I ended up on Path of the Lotless with only 10 Scheming and it was already game over for me from the start of chapter 4 despite having 20 manipulation and 20 diplomacy, since some essential stat checks to survive require at least 14-16 scheming on that path, and the only way to get more scheming is passing the scheming checks which I needed scheming for...
>>743695624Ignoring the BS stat requirements, all three routes have too much overlap because of the civil war and family drama subplots which are the same every time. The civil war should have been tied to the commoner route, and family drama divided between the other two.
>>743695894We see different sides of the civil war depending on each path. Each family member is also tied to a certain path and extra options are unveiled for their events.
>>743695856>10 scheming>20 manipulation>20 diplomacyhow the fuck? Your initial scheming is dependent on previous choices. You probably focused too much on Determination during Childhood instead of Perception.
>>743696282>you failed because you made the wrong choices as a toddler
>>743696282Yeah it was my first playthrough and I figured "maxing 1 stat at the beginning is better than spreading myself too thin across both". I wasn't aware the stats would change later and then combine. >>743696448>story of my life
>>743696448There are no "right" or "wrong" choices - it depends on which path you take. If you're going to be a noble then focus on stats which are related to nobility.
>>743696615The first half of the game favors spreading your stats around. The second half punishes that. There's no rhyme or reason to it. You're supposed to use meta knowledge.
Redpill me on the twins, are the lots right?
>>743696786The lots are fanfiction. The twins never said anything about them.
>>743696448
>>743696895>t. nu-faithistTo the Foot of the Pillar with you.
>>743696786The Lots are right but the Twins are retarded since they don't live amongst the people so they don't know the good and bad of it.
>>743696895Why do the two fuckers let it happen then?
>>743696786Game never gives you a definitive answer.What the twins do say, is that Arknians are destined to rule and that the Arknian Empire is holy in of itself. So the prophet guy, Isatius, wrote down the holy texts and assumed that the way the empire was run at the time was holy so the lots must be holy too.The new faith thinks Isatius interpretation is wrong. That's all. The biggest losers in this conflict are the lotless because no matter what they do they are going straight to this universes hell.
>>743666937>(You) are the productAlways explains why I'm in high demandHEY-O
>>743697256Thing is, Isatius only wrote down the Lots based on the caste/estates system of his time period. But in the present day the socio-economic climate has changed and the Lots don't reflect the new reality.
I don't know how people like this game. All the plot points are ripped straight from Les Miserables and Pillars of the Earth, the blue people are a direct ripoff of the Gamilians from Space Battleship Yamato, and the whole "you have three extra lives" thing is so dumb even the authors realized it was a bad idea.
>>743697517The extra lives thing is just their version of a wound system. I've seen it in other games.
>>743697517its ai slop
>>743695856>This was extra funny in my route cause there was literally a civil fucking war brewing outside, terrorists bombing buildings and statues, people afraid to even sleep at night, and I gotta deal with my fucking sister wanting to wear men's clothes and read poetry and my stupid brother wanting to marry her off, can't you fucks put this on hold until later?! I need my willpower for more important shit.I mean, life *is* like that sometimes.
Sophia is a fucking bitch, I literally gave her my gunpowder barrels and had sex with her and she was at 5 favor and she still wouldn't put me on the plan to assassinate Fillipe and left me to die like a dog.
>>743695856No different than Crusader Kings where my viking army is taking over Spain and in the middle of my conquest my wife comes to me and says she wants to plot to kill the guy I have managing half of England not for any reason, but just because it seemed fun.
>>743697950>I showed you my gunpowder please respond
>>743697950>picked the crazy BPD girlbossyour lot is to suffer
>>743697950Hot.
Do I have to play the first game to know what's going on in the second
>>743698250No. It doesn't reference many things from the first game.
>>743698250why would you wanna play ai slop
>>743693014I literally don't care, bro. Keep seething
>>743693867>Its probably an alternate reality.It's probably the writers not giving a shit because they want to tell a specific story
>>743694241That's kino, I don't know why you want your waifus to be spineless worms who live for your dick
Is the second game good so far?I'll wait for a pirate version before I give them any money
>>743698695because why won't they obey me 100% after i romance them???
>>743698558good morning saaar
Buy an ad.
>>743698752ai slop unfortunately >>743676384
>>743698752I like it more.
>>743695624The game doen't bend over backwards to accomodate anon's bad decisions so it's bad, ok?
>>743698759good morning ma'am
>>743697015Because they gave you free will. If you want Gods to fix all your problems then you don't deserve it, so die as a slave
>>743697950It's what all simps deserve
>>743698752Pretty solid so far. Its much more complicated in all the right ways.
yikes, this, so much this
>>743697015The world is perfect just the way they made it.Brante gets to reexperience his life over and over because the Twins are using him to settle a debate around how to unfuck the world or whether to do it at all.
>muh AIPost evidence of your claims. The artstyle and the writing match 100% with Brante's.
>>743700395then why so many art mistake?
>>743700448you saw previous game?
>god literally comes up and asks you "how would you improve the world?" >"well I'd do away with the lots" >"oh ok" >every sword, book and whip from every temple disappears overnight and all the peasants with permanent lash marks from the ritual get healedHuh that was easier than expected.
Do these questions even do anything?
>>743696895>The lots are fanfiction. The twins never said anything about them.Then why does the common lot getting whipped in the church leave permanent marks on the body in that coming of age ceremony?
>>743701974>god literally comes up and asks you "how would you improve the world?">"idk man I'm going through stuff right now"
Secret Police route is really cool
>>743666880I only know this game, because someone did a daily /v/plays for it, but he quit halfway through.I think we just massively fucked up our run and would get a bad ending no matter what we did
I don't usually like that meme, but this is literally soul vs no soul.
>>743702076Wow, look at this obvious AI art! I am very smart
>>743703673did what
>>743703031For the same reason why the mob can grant you True Death. The power of true faith
>>743700395>The artstyle and the writing match 100% with Brante's.why would they? its an entirely different art team
>>743703831No matter
>>743700395https://dtf.ru/games/5194775-neyroseti-v-iskusstve-vzglyad-na-sovremennuyu-illyustratsiyu>1. Working on the game's art took about three years. During this time, approximately 300 illustrations were created by four artists. If our goal had simply been to create as many images as possible using neural networks, I think the result would have looked quite different—and there would likely have been significantly more illustrations. :)....>3. Each final illustration was created by a specific artist. All artistic decisions, composition, movement, characterization, lighting, color, and presentation are the work of our artists. We have no doubt that each work has its own author.....And a response:>First, second, third, and final... and so on with every post. He doesn't even bother, generating all the texts with neural networks. And for some reason, he keeps lying...>The art is 100% neural, there's nothing to even argue or discuss about it.>Add AI tags to your Steam page, or redraw all the art, stop lying to people.It has as much updoots as the original post, which is a bad sign.
>>743703916clearly AI, women do not look like men here
Does the new game give you freedom of movement? I was disappointed that they gave you this map in the first game but you couldn't actually visit any of the places on it. It's good for worldbuilding at least and setting the mood
>>743704058>>743700395Mismatching a window and its shadow is a very AI thing to have happen, that a human just wouldn't do.
>>743704035>>The art is 100% neural because... IT JUST IS!lol, ok
>>743704126>>743704130Having multiple chess pieces on the same tile is also a very AI-like mistake, that a human just wouldn't do.
>>743704126I have no idea what the read circle is even about
>>743704126lol, you think human wouldnt say fuck it good enough
>>743704163Ok, cool. it's AI. I still don't care
>>743704187
>>743704172are you a robot?
>>743700395>>743704242Goalpost: moved
>>743704163>Comically large pawn at the bottom>Random mermaid-like piece
>>743704242its worse qualityand for an artistic, soulfull indie project, you kind of want the craftmanship and hand made feelits just lame to go to a hipster restaurant and get served a warmed up frozen burgeryou expect something else here
im glad laymen are all artists now, care so much about the details
>>743704163>>743704331>You don't get it chud! It's just... Weird fantasy chess, not like our chess.
>>743704331i dont know how these passed very basic QAthe developer paid artists for thesehe saw the images, said "yep, im paying for that" and published it on steam in a video game with a marketing budget.bro.
>try to be a religious man>get forced into sexwtf man
>>743704790didnt the priest tell you where mana comes from?get on your knees, boy. you about to get holy.
>>743704395>i dont know how these passed very basic QASimple: the developer also says that he can't even write a tweet without using AI. He's a dyed-in-the-wool sloptard who sees these things as progress. This is evangelism for him, trying to bring more into the cult or at least wearing people down into passively accepting it.
>>743704290No, I simply don't care if the game is using ai. You can screech, fart and shart all you wnat but AI will continue to be used and there is literally nothing you can do about it. I suggest less crying or you will die of dehydration
>>743704340>and for an artistic, soulfull indie projectI also understand that indie projects dosn't have billions to blow on twatter trannies who make bad art. the art was never the main draw of the game - it was pretty damn ugly in Brante. It was the setting, the narrative and the prose. I have sene no complaints on that front
>>743704856my american managers do the same, they use chatgpt for acceptance criteria and comments, and all their links have chatgpt in the url because of it
>>743704856the only error is answering to retards like you, not what he actually uses
>>743704928>>743705012>>743705049its bad, manits worse stuffwhy do you want worse stuff?
>your dad is a faggot>your mom is an evil harpy you can imprison forever in hell>the important reforms aren't properly labeled so you curry the wrong favor and now I have to replay the whole fucking chapter so I can retain my birthright and not give it to the retards, holy fuck why would I ever want to give away power like my faggot dad?I can't remember the name of the blood rite that was the most based, but he's the one who realised that humans are way easier to control than other blue cocksuckers and so he gave them rights to gain more control.
>>743705046Always remember that these people are not ensouled, anon. They are the reprobate, those who God created and intentionally passed over; those with no avenue for reaching Heaven.
>nobody will ever look at you like this
>>743705430i've experienced this before when i threatened to beat my father, who was always a bully and seems to have ignored he's 50 now and i can throw him out the windowhe changed his character on a dime, like he got a talent reset
Is Brante really that special, or is Shadow Brante the fate of any human who decides to forge their own path?
>>743704856>Guys, of course I proofread my posts with neural networks>of courseThis is straight up scary. He genuinely cannot comprehend not using AI for something as small and simple as writing a social media post. And this is a grown man who quite literally did that before AI ever existed. The next generation is so fucked. No thoughts, no inner-monologue, only a for-profit corporation's sycophantic chatbot telling them what to say, how to act, who to vote for.
>>743670562Fabled Lands
>>743670997>Ren'Py optionsWhat are these and why are they so important?
>>743695204the death spiral is kinda the point isn't it? It's not fun gameplay but it makes sense thematically
>>743671608>>743693507Oh thank fuck, I thought maybe I was doing something wrong to have my childhood 'friend' be my worst enemy. He got me into so much shit and even killed once because he just could not stop being a nigger for even one moment.
>>743704856the majority of humanity is so fucked because of ai.
>>743709837Skipping through text use ctrl, for one. Brante doesn't even let you play it keyboard-only, which is utterly retarded.
>>743712657The ring does exactly one thing in the commoner route. Aside from that he's nothing but a burden.
>>743712998What a cunt, I thought maybe it was only because I was noble. Maybe Otton was right to kill him, he probably gave him no choice when the cocksucker kept tanking his rep, willpower, career, and wealth.
More like the life and suffering of deez nuts
>>743670562Roadwarden
So where can I pirate the sequel?
>>743703694how so? the visuals look better
>Play the Prince Jerian Demo>Get to the flashback with The Younger.Killing your own brother because you have a terminal case of LAWtism really makes him seem like a snivelling little bitch.
>Get to Flavius' introduction >aww he seems quite innocent, i'll help the lil guy out>Few years later, he becomes an absolute egomaniac (Joffrey from GoT but somehow fucking worse)The devs played me
>>743723903After getting most of the way in, younger was probably right. Elder wanted compassion for all after death.>>743724271Same, it was neat. I hope there's a way to kill him, but at this point the game seems pretty intent on "muh absolute power crumbles your immortal soul absolutely!" instead of "being god on earth is actually fucking cool as shit".The creed seems like hell of a chapter, I need to replay it today and I already barely made it through yesterday and lost almost all of my sanity.
>>743724426>Same, it was neat.well i'm playing as an evil noble so I might side with him lol>The CreedHaven't gotten there yet. Hope its as kino as chapter 4 in Brante.side note: I've heard people say there is AI art but so far I haven't found it noticable. The writing of this game however is of the same style as Brante so I doubt they used Ai to write the game
>>743724426>Elder wanted compassion for all after death.Given the nature of the aftelife in the setting, this doesn't seem too eggregious. Ultimately it comes down to whether it's better to spare everyone or obliterate some percentage of people who don't deserve it to make sure those who are guilty are punished.
>>743724608 NTA but I can kinda understand the Younger's issue with this. The Elder wants ALL souls, regardless if they are in the Peak or the Foot of the pillar, to receive this eternal Love which doesn't feel very lawful.
>>743724271I remember Brante's brother was similar relatively well meaning as a child, if a bit indoctrinated, and then after the Grandfather he's genuinely kind of a dick to everyone.
>>743724939Nathan was more of a lost soul who didn't really belong anywhere. Yes he got his family into trouble but you still felt some pity for him. But Flavius? Lmao fuck no
>>743724574I can definitely see some AI slop, some of the animation is very AI looking. The writing seems fine though, aside from one mention of "making the empire great again" and the 5 times I've encountered "that made me cringe" in the fucking translation, but these might just be issues with whatever freak is translating the game.
>>743670587Disco is more like a VN with gameplay but yeah it's quite kino.>>743670670Roadwarden is great yeah, Alchemist route was very engaging even though I lost fights with animals.
>>743725121yeah if there is use of AI in art then the devs should be held accountable for that. Regardless, I started the game without knowledge of this and still enjoyed it just fine. It could also just be art mistakes (last game had many of those too and that was before AI)
>>743725051I meant the other brother, but yeah Nathan kind of got cucked. He's sort of a bitch but to be fair after he was born he was basically an abuse goblin to his Grandfather, Mother, and Father. And in some respects, the other brother as well. Gloria kind of ignored him too. You can't really blame him for how he ended up.
>>743725232Oh yeah you meant Stefan my bad. Still it was sad to see Nathan end up that way, and that event where he opens up to you felt quite emotional. One of the endings where you help Nathan become a Prophet was quite funny and fitting for the guy.
>>743725358Yeah it is pretty interesting. Good for him to somewhat turn his life around. Stefan at least felt like the sibling that turned to you and confided in you the most.
>>743666880Cool, I have had it on my wishlist for like 4 years.
>>743670670isn't that game woke?
>>743725498It's a bit woke but it's not offensively woke. All the woke stuff is kind of opt in except for I suppose strong "independent" female characters. It's got good atmosphere, the mini rpg systems it has are nice enough and the writing is nice.
>do run>get to end>lose all progress because I don't have willpowerthis shit sucks, why the fuck would i be leading a army then just decide to sit and stick my thumb up my ass doing nothing, retarded ass dev
wait you play as a arkanian in the new game? why the fuck would I want to do that?
>>743726141Jerian offers you a glimpse into hedonism, degeneracy, and evil the likes of which you wouldn't understand in Brante (nobles are worse than Epstein and Arknians are basically Caligulas on crack)
>>743726141why not?
>>743726141Why the fuck wouldn't you?
>>743666880this game is awesome!
>give humans equality and the ability to retain their nobility>they still sperg out and try and coup meGuys, were the Arknians... right?
>>743666937Not always, and this game is only free if you grab it before the 23th. The real product here is the new game that released yesterday and takes place in the same universe. They just want to get people hooked and interested into buying that by giving this 5 year old game that likely does not earn them much anymore for free.
>>743727354nahfuck the blue people
>>743727974Yeah, I will fuck the blue people. With my COCK
>>743728009sure, you can keep octavia. She turns into an ayylmao anyways
>get almost all my reforms through>get chain fucked into rebellion before I can present themNice.
>destroy mommy>the emperor is happy!>he's so fucking happy he wants to spread love to the whole world and kill everyone>lose 1 sanity stopping himYeah, from now on, I'm siding with mommy every time. She may be a heartless adulterer, but at least she isn't a faggot.
Why don't you have the choice to just fucking kill Sophia the moment you're alone together? She betrayed you
>>743728320why wouldnt you side with your hot mom even if shes crazy?
>>743671278this is an old thread, but here is a (You)
>>743728141I'll fuck her weird alien puss too
>>743728362You can kill her if you are on a based lotless path
>>743728386She's fucking the king's brother the whole time, that bitch is nasty.
>>743728362You are both on a Secret Police's leashAlso, she's a fucking wizard. You'd need to take her off guard to do so.
>>743728942 its not really her tho, arknian culture with the masks is fucking weird Honestly this game is introducing so many new, crazy elements with the worldbuilding. Its awesome.
>>743729151I mean, it is her, just her before she was reborn as a Tempest. Honestly, knowing more of the story makes her more sympathetic, she had to marry an impotent homosexual instead of his cooler brother.
is the sequel story good? Wanna pirate it but want to know if it would be worth my time
>>743729267Without spoiling i'll just say this: things get more batshit the further you progress, far more than the first game ever got.
>clutch through chapter 4 with all my reforms by the skin of my teeth>hit the wedding and my wifey saves me by improving my standing with the council at the last hour before I get hit with total breakdownI love this bitch, even if she doesn't love me.>>743729267It's pretty good. Feels more expansive but I don't think there are set routes this time, you have a set Lot and you can't change it, just pervert it. I like all the world building stuff, you get a much clearer picture of the true state of the world due to your position.
>been waiting for this game for a while>find out there's ai slop in it>no way to tell if any of the writing is ai tooit's like i just ordered my favorite dish and there's a bug in it
>>743729224 eh, Cornelius is cool but hes also very hypocritical. He doesn't really care about the humans, he just thinks the dynasty needs to side with them in order for them to survive
>>743729364I don't think he's right, but he would've been a better emperor than his spineless brother. The true emperor is the guy who killed the witch Milanias or whatever his name was, that guy understood Jerian's will. Might makes right, fuck the true houses, fuck the humans, they're all pawns in the game of house Tempest.
>>743729361I didn't hear about the AI rumors before playing it myself, but I can tell you that the writing style didn't feel different from the first game at all. Maybe they used AI to translate some lines weirdly but otherwise I doubt it. The art also looks normal for the most part and is the same style as the previous game.
>>743729361Imagine you grew up with everyone around you telling you cow dung was bad and disgusting, so you just assumed it was true. Then you had the most delicious yogurt ever, only to find out after that it was made from cow dung. Would you get angry, or would you act rational like all the brahmins at Microsoft? They have to force feed you AI until you stop being such a luddite chud, why can't you see it's good for you like the cow dung?
>>743729340 is there any way to make her genuinely love you?
>>743729507if i eat the cow dung yogurt and it tastes good then it only means people worked very hard to disguise the taste of cow dung which is a shame because it would have been that much better without the cow dung in the first place and now i can't enjoy it because i caught a whiff of the cow dung
>>743729603I just started chapter 5, probably not. I think Agatha is meant to be the "canon" choice if you ignore your blood tide, but that bitch was far too pompous for a whore. Loyalty is more important than love anyway, Arknians are fucking weird and they do weird shit like have a kid with a human to test the waters first, I don't think there's any love there aside from honor.
>>743729668 sad but thanks. I'll assume there has to be a way cuz even in the previous game you could make Jeanne convert to the New Faith. This game should have even more routes so we'll see. Agreed on agatha, she can't fucking stop chimping out and ruining my rep on public. Maybe next playthrough i'll romance her
>>743729626saar do not be disrespecting the sacred food
>>743729110doesn't she legit tell you that she can't use her wizard powers because he would just kill her if she tried to do it since she has a huge tell
aw shit, new AI slop evidence droppedone of the game files is literally named "ChatGPT image ####.png"
>>743729738I understand why they eat this, but I'll never claim that is an equivalent culture
>>743730204I heard the artist quit before they could finish the game iirc
>>743730204uh oh guess the ziggers were right, no ai disclosure on steam too...
>think I'm doing pretty well in Jerian>get to part 3>personal stats being 10 or higher becomes important >maxing personality trait becomes a detriment Looks like civil war or being assassinated will be my end.
Is there a path that doesnt require maxing stats? Like, you're completely weak, but you have your whole family and allies behind your back, or something like that?
>>743730794No, lol. I'm in chapter 5 right now and getting completely raped because there doesn't seem to be any way to replenish legacy blue points here and every fucking choice needs them or scores over 15-20. Might just cheat some in, honestly.
>>743730204i wanted to verify if this was true, but after looking through the game's assets i'm unable to find this particular file
>>743730794>>743730595Brante's supporting attributes were often more specific ending requirements than used in checks normally, it's gonna be that way
>>743730204lmaoPost the file and filepath
>>743731042that's just what someone posted on steam that came from a russian thread that i can't understand. possibly from an early build with placeholder assets
>>743731042he made it up
>>743666937but I'm free too.
Just finished the game, felt a little abrupt in terms of an ending. Maybe because my creed was freedom for all but I still get to stand at the top forever.
KINO
>>743733429>not spending it with mom or gloriabaka
>>743733520Or Nathan, the one that actually needs it.
>>743712937Are Ren'Py options able to be used in engines other than Ren'Py? It seems pretty limiting.
>>743735241they are features that take work to add, but 1% of the work is actually implementing the skip functions while 99% of the actual work is just verifying you haven't broken any scenes you already have scripted
>>743735241He just means basic visual novel features, like ctrl skip or text history or ability to step into scenes from a certain point. The nips have been doing this since the fucking 90's but somehow this is often lost technology to modern devs
>>743735743I feel like this isn't a huge deal if you let the player quicksave and load anywhere and don't bombard him with dozens of paragraphs and animations before getting to the next choice. I love clicking through Fabled Lands Java and exploring the world and the game never feels too tedious despite often backtracking through the same sections.
What stats are required in order to get Beloved by All?
>>743736490Dunno about personal stats but you need to maintain a good rep with at least 3 estates.
>>743725591anon, the phrase "his boyfriend" is found in the very beginning if the game at first camp.
who here /bluegf/
>>743736997why would you fuck blue women instead of agatha
>>743737035blue girl sexyI'm playing with everything hidden but I need /v/'s advice on my next choice: should I try to marry gloria to the noble who's interested in her on stephen's advice? I've got a good relationship with both of them but usually take gloria's side in their conflicts since I'm a siscon. Considering that Stephen's suggesting it and he doesn't really like her, I'd err on the side of not supporting the marriage but he DOES have a point that, should the husband be a good one, it would probably improve her life to marry into nobility.
>>743737153You're in one of the turning points of the game. I'll just say this: you cannot satisfy both siblings no matter which ending you pick in the game. So you can only choose to either agree with stefan's idea or reject it. If you have family unity 8 and non-negative willpower, then reject this plot
>>743737153Marry her
>>743737153>I'm a sisconSo you're retarded. Not gonna give you any advice then. Wallow in your retardation alone
I feel like the new game doesn't have as much content. Feels like the first half of a game that they rushed out after running out of budget, which is a shame because I really liked what was there. Maybe it opens up more with different decisions, I didn't even get to go visit the twins. I didn't play the first game that much, did you find out that the new order are just trying to damn enough peasants at the foot to make the gods reconsider the whole "Lots" bullshit? I guess it was slightly implied by them storming the tree in the first game and getting true death'd for it.
>>743738000There are multiple, completely different paths you can take with events tied to them. Some characters are more relevant and have more appearances in those paths.
>>743738153Are you always railroaded into the council? Feels pretty clear cut, maybe there was an earlier branch point I missed where you can become a waster like your father.
>>743738195I think the childhood friends are more important if you decided to reject the blood tide.
Did anyone find the shadow of the will ending if there is one?
>>743666880>VN that revolves around minmaxing stat points so you don't get arbitrarily locked into a bad ending (not as a consequence of the actions you took but because the completely unrelated conversational option you picked 12 chapters ago gave you -1 in agreeableness or whatever)This "game" is so shit it astounds me that it has any kind of following whatsoever
>>743739347I'm guessing you get it if you kill your father and take his place for the mystery, but I didn't have the stats for it. My second run I'm trying a hardline Arknian, so maybe it'll pop up.
>>743739150I'm doing that this time, but they seem very useless. I just fractured my mind the first time to avoid getting consumed.
>>743737153>but usually take gloria's side in their conflicts since I'm a siscon.very based
Agathe sexo.
>>743742824This!
>>743733429>whisky>wineglassbut whyand why is it kino? idgi>"the last night"
So it looks like siding with the new faith guy while having Agatha as your love interest is the way to get the good ending with the gods. I made it there and just got foot'd for my troubles because I didn't pick her or ignore the gods.
I just finished the first game. Chapter 4 was kinda a nightmare, I ended up stopping giving a shit about the family or tommas because they were a pain in the ass. Also feels like you definitely get railroaded into being a rebel if you choose the nobility path. And there's simply not enough ways to regain willpower. It's retarded that dying doesn't at least reset your willpower to 0
>>743747385No. As nobility, you can choose to side with your uncle to be a rebel or oppose him. It depends how high your "career" stat is
>>743747714I had no way to do anything else because my deception and manipulation was below 10.
>>743740387>not as a consequence of the actions you took but because of the consequence of the actions you took?
>>743747898Didn't you get an event where you met Remy El Verman? If you didn't that probably explains it. I think you need like 8 points on the career ladder for it.
>>743747976The magistrate/mayor guy? Yeah, but I told him to fuck off because he was running interference for the blue dick. Also I decided to end the nobles private court because I am the law. It's just that when the checks started getting requirements like 10 willpower and 10 if some stat I've never prioritized which then closed other doors permanently. Basically my prowess and charisma carried me to an ending, but literally all of the choices were gray or some variation of retarded (like not killing Sophie, for example)
>>743745734>>whisky>>wineglassAAAAIIIEEEEEEE IT'S AI HUMANS WOULD NEVER MAKE MISTAKES LIKE THIS!
>>743748190Ah, I think I understand now anon. Without spoiling too much, I'll say that there are 4 different ways the Noble path can go>Extremist poorfag lover = Support Mayor Egmont>Moderate poorfag lover = support your uncle El BorneThe other two are basically variants of which noble you support, either the new Archduke Gaius or Milanidas (represented through Verman). Each of them are different people tho, but if you rejected Verman's deal and your carrier is high enough then Gaius comes to you
>>743748409forgot to mention, but you deciding on ending the nobles private court is pretty much you saying "yep fuck you bitches, i won't accept your opression against the poorfags" soo that probably explains it...
>>743748526The nobles have no right to run a parallel criminal justice system at odds with the Emperors judges, simple as
>>743745734>whisky>wineglassI've seen americans siping vodka from whiskey glasses.
>>743748596Eliminating the Court of Honor is one of the main decisions of the storyline and doing so pretty much ubiquitously puts you on the Rebel path
>>743748368why are you mad? it's a literal who indie slop game, just join in and shit on it or find another thread
>>743666880>can't fuck gloriaCringe. She's not even blood related
>>743748791She is. Half-blooded tho
>>743670997>but the mechanical part is absolutely dogshitI got pissed off when I maxed out my strength or whatever the sword fighting skill was during the childhood part, then I still lost TWO separate fights as a noble both causing deaths. Game is nigh unplayable without reading a guide so you can minmax every stat
>>743748791>Can't just have Stefan marry gloria and fix herI'm mad about this
>>743749332Determination isn't your strength, more like how ambitious and confident you are.
>>743671246I really like this game but I hate how it's missing VN features like skipping text, etc.
>I will play as noble so I should max Valor and Diplomacy to win duels and negotiate>I will play as lotless so I should max Scheming and Manipulation to boil plotsCringe>I will play as noble so I should max Scheming and Manipulation to boil plots >I will play as lotless so I should max Valor and Diplomacy to lead the revolutionBased
>>743677682>human resourcesAfter reading A Deepness in the Sky, human resources has a very dystopian and disturbing context for me now, and current situation in the world and job market is exacerbating it even further.
>>743748627I drink all my beverages from whatever's at hand. I don't give a shit about this fancypants "the right glass for the right beverage" garbage
>>743748736>slopBut it doesn't have poorly hidden trannification or muh depression metaphors, or pixel graphics so it can't be slop by definition
>>743736727I wouldn't consider that offensively woke until it beats you over the head with it personally. I didn't it wasn't woke but rather that it was the more inoffensive type. Also, I had forgotten about that
The biggest woman moment in the game so far. I shouldn't have given them the title should I? Only hope now is that Emil is a proper man, else I will be throwing them both in the shit pit.
>Some art tranny is screaching about AI in this threadI should buy this game with money.
>>743752520good morning saar
>>743695017I grew to hate every single member of my "family" as I progressed with the game. This bitch especially.
>>743752062I succumbed to my passion and had sex with her anyway, worth it. If you lead them both down the path of being fucking retards then they get captured by Cato later on for tempting Arknians, who didn't even seem to give a shit that I let him marry a fucking human, and you can choose to kill them, pardon them, or just let Emil die.
>>743745734>>whisky>>wineglassYeah, it should be a nosing glass.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVG1U-faqHY
>ignore my fiancee and pursue the forbidden uncle's fiancee fruit instead>she starts smashing all my death masks so I either have to turn her into a blood slave or let her be retardedIt was alluded to in another ending, but I had hoped she would be tamable. The only girl who remains is Martha now, I guess I'll take that retarded whore to the gods. None of the chicks are very good in this, as emperor I should at least be able to make a harem given the max number of kids you can have with a blue wife is 4.
>>743752579Indans are poor anon, you should know better.
>>743753128>buying ai slopsaar do not redeem
>>743710365>being dogshit is the point and nuancedholy shit I hate drakengardfags so fucking much
This was the best piece of dialogue in the game so far, it actually made me sad. All I can hope for is that this poor sod doesn't get swept away by the tide. T
>>743754056 Oh boy, this will become so funny once you go further in lol
>>743754056Well fuck
>>743754056I hope he likes that lute I got him!
>>743672907Dunno I went full Sollchud and I still beat Rumburg, was re-elected, bitch wife came back, etc.I think the game allows you to win as anything really.
>If you like the Life and Suffering series, you might also like....>uuuh>Miside? The fuck?
>>743757156russian game
Is it more optimal to die as a child for the +2 stats increase or should I watch my toys melt in the fire for the +5 willpower gain?(This is my second playthrough so don't moralize me.)
uh oh
>>743758712Don't. That death is worthless in the long run.
>>743758907I'm going down the Path of the Priest this time, will I need any deaths for that? I did Lotless before and I never died as an adult, if I knew that I would have thrown myself to get killed by the carriage too as a teenager.
>>743759049The most worthwhile death is the one where you rescue Sophia from horses. Make sure you have the willpower for that.
>>743753430I'm not saying it's good tho perhaps a good compromise would be an easy mode with more forgiving options and a "suffering mode" that removes them.
Fuck you to whoever recommended Roadwarden. I thought Suzerain was wordy, but this is ridiculous. Paragraphs upon paragraphs of filler text with 2 lines of importance that you have to fish out manually. This is torture.
>>743759049Noble is the only path with multiple adult deaths. For common/priest you may as well die as a kid because it won't matter.
>Would you like to read a book, anon? >Would you like to read a book on your PC under the guise of a video game? >Now would you like to read a book on your PC under the guise of a video game, but with pictures? >Oh no...it's not a visual novel. It's a book with pictures. >It's kino and free, anon. Come on.
>>743761205yeah i tried playing the demo but I just couldn't take it. Maybe I'll try again if its as kino as some say
>>743748694Is there any reason to be a rebel noble? It sounds self-defeating.
>>743761614>Play as a prideful nobleman>At the end join rebels to destroy Otton in battle
>>743761730You can already own Otton via the court of honor. On the other hand, during the civil war I saw there's an option to join his side. Why the FUCK is that an option?
>>743761614You get to rule over the new city state as one of the Governors.
>>743761801>Why the FUCK is that an option?If you chose to side with Milanidas' faction, then Otton can be your ally.
>>743761819So is that something you do if you don't become a noble of the sword? Is that the point?
>>743761205damn, dawg, sorry you didn't like it. to me it's pretty close to something like the classic game books of the 80'si really liked how slow and laborious it starts out as you explore a hostile wilderness, but as you take time to do something like painstakingly dump rocks into a river each day you slowly build a bridge that cuts your travel time down. by the end of the game the entire area feels like it's changed and you've conquered the wilderness.
>>743761801>Why the FUCK is that an option?Well, his side is empire side so...
>>743761884>So is that something you do if you don't become a noble of the sword?Not exactly. This is separate from becoming a Noble of the Sword. You can be a Noble of the Sword and still have access to this ending. The point of this ending is that you chose the people to not be oppressed by the evil nobles. And they pretty much chose Brante and El Borne as the new leaders of the independent city state.
>>743761885I feel like I really would have liked it if it focused more on the mechanics instead of filler text. Conceptually it's great, the execution is just terrible.
>>743762004I'm asking about what it makes sense for Brante to do. If the empire wins they reform to become more progressive anyway. Going through all the effort to become a noble of the sword and throwing it away by joining the rebellion is dumb.
>>743761614>>743761801>ree there can't be alternative timelines and gameplay choices one can make for a difference in how my character develops ree stop giving players more freedom! keep them gay, token and cucked!
>the objectively best ending is the one where you become a glowie and murder the revolutionaries in cold bloodWhat did the developers mean by this?
>>743762354>Russian dev>Secret Police ending is the best oneHmmm...
>>743762007>filler texti think there's a disconnect here as i enjoy reading a description of a bugs crawling out of a rotten log or trying to read weathered lettering on deteriorating signposts, trying to discern which direction was the one you're supposed to go in
>>743762482>trying to discern which direction was the one you're supposed to go inThat shit actually made me drop the game. I got directions from somebody that weren't accurate to how the map was laid out. It was infuriating.
>>743762086Depends on how the empire wins. Gaius may decide to not become more progressive at all as well.As for Brante, becoming Noble of the Sword is more of a family objective rather than an individual one. The question is if Brante is willing to sacrifice so much for his grandfather's wishes. Becoming Noble of the Sword doesn't mean you get fewer privileges on the Rebel Path (there are two ways for the rebel path anyways, a peaceful or violent victory). It depends on how you play the character.
>>743761875>Otton can be your ally.I'd rather die
>>743751964let's just go back to calling the devs fags and leave it at that, the word woke means something different to everyone after the bastardization campaign by that fat fuck who tried to coin "woke right", which is a contradiction akin to saying the left right. bin it, the word is dead
>>743762981That's fair. The game doesn't force you to, but the option is there. I prefer kicking his ass in the duel with 20 Valor. SUPER satisfying kek.
>>743762354>the objectively best endingWhat makes it so good? Sell it to me.
>>743763637Hes lying. Its the most Game Of Thrones-like ending.>t. over a 100 hours
>>743763637You avoid the civil entirely, the empire takes liberal reforms, and you become a noble of the sword to satisfy grandpa. The only downside is having to kill your love interest and moralfag sister hating you, but they suck anyway.
>>743763736I bet you love the "I become le heckin god" reddit ending.
>>743764386nah, that one is funny but certainly not one of the best ones
>when you die you either get absorbed back by the Eldest and melt into the collective unconscious and live forever in bliss>or you get cut down by the Youngest and your soul disintegrates out of the universe >either way, you as you are stop existing entirely>oh but your descendants can use blood tide to call you any time :^) What? Is this explained or is it a plothole?
>>743764802I think a semblance of your soul remains via the Blood Tide. Only for Nobility tho.
holy shit, Flavius is an asshole
>>743704163an explanation could be since both players are moving pieces its plausible they are resetting the board for a 2nd game or something
>>743764802The blood tide and death masks aren't actually the person, they're the memory left behind by them. The soul returns to the twins.The blood tide honestly seems barely any better than the elder's "love".
>>743762354The best ending is the one where I get to be fantasy Martin Luther and inform the church that the selling of indulgences will cease.
>>743765697I was really expecting him to be a usurper but all he did to me was be melancholy about being a worthless Nathan tier fuckup with no real Lot. And hunt random women for sport, but come on, we've all done that before.
>>743767045dont forget becoming patriarch and marrying jeanne
>>743767220And creating Saint Nathan, that's also important.
>>743761314It can't be a VN because all the girls are shit.
So without any meta knowledge Old Believers are objectively the good guys?
>>743758712>optimalwhy play a VN to optimize?if you want to become a noble, you want to make friends with grandps, i'll give you that hint
>>743768614>he doesn't know
Love? Law? Or... Will...?
>>743768614The virgin new believer I will condemn a million souls at the foot of the spire with lies in hopes of maybe making the Younger reconsider the Law for a second maybe... vs the chad Brante yeah old man I just met maybe just get rid of the Lots? lol
>>743768817In Sir Brante I died because I lost vital forces defending my home from looters.In prince Jerian the bald guy clearly states he will condemn hundreds of thousands in the hope that maybe, just maybe the Younger one will reconsider his choice. Both he and the Elder say you are pretty much doomed since I went with the new faith.
>>743769850I really hope you're hanging out with Agatha, or you're going to get judged and die before you get to show off your cool new creed.
The later chapters of Jerian really remind me of the Small Council meetings during early Game of Thrones. I kinda like it, weirdly enough.
>>743770020Not that anon but>retarded human hippie whoreI really have no idea why the devs thought anybody would pick her.
>>743770064They're a bit too easy when you realise all you really need is to be above 0 with everyone, and then force through with blue points if you don't have +2 in the important ones for that piece.Honestly, I was disappointed in the creed stuff. Feels all very meaningless, which I guess it is given the Will is coming back any day now.>>743770131She's the fucking messiah, lol.
>>743770260>intentionally sees spoilersDamn. I didn't plan on picking her next run but now I might, thanks anon.>above 0 with everyoneDepends on what type of reform you want i guess
>>743770454If you take her you need to go new faith and sacrifice yourself like the rest of the retards for her eventual ending after you cause both the twins to despair when they try and judge you for it.
>>743770020You don't mean to tell me everything I have worked for so far, the creed, keeping as many people alive as possible, forming 80+ strong alliance with the estates will end in a blue ball ending?
It's sad that this setting will never get a full blown rpg since it's games have a budged of a pack of vodka
>>743770674Shouldn't have chosen to go against your Lot, buddy!
>>743770640dw I intend to go New Faith/Social Reformist for my next run anyways. I was kinda curious about Agatha, but I disliked how she was mocking you during her introduction event
>>743770685The closest thing to a "cool" setting in a regular RPG is Elder Scrolls which is just magic mushroom induced CHIM slop.I don't know how you could even do a setting like this without it falling apart thematically when you take your Lotless on a Arknian murder spree with no consequences.
>Come and SeeThis is not a reference to the movie right? It's pretty much the only thing I can try to get and not have to replay the whole game.
>>743771425Why wouldn't it be?
>>743771425It's a reference to the name of the movie. Not necessarily to the theme of the movie
>>743771425It's from the Bible, bro. That's where the movie got its name
Does Jerian balanced any better or do you still need absurd amounts of minmaxing to achieve anything?
>>743772693They improved on that aspect. Basically every year you get a chance to either buff all your stats at once by a point, or buff another aspect such as Law/Love, etc. It makes things much more manageable IMO.
