I say Gran you say Blue. RELINK TIME
If she loves me so much, why doesn't she have my daki?
>converted my old mods for the original gameFinally I got rid of the spats.
Just like Anthuria, whoever puts themselves through the slog that is Relink truly must be cucked for all eternity.
>>743671642alternative costume when?
>>743672231how?
>>743674265Someone made a conversion tool, it's on github. I'm a total layman when it comes to coding and shit but even I could figure out how to make it work and for the mods I tried it worked perfectly.https://github.com/N78Wy/GBFRTextureFixer
don't mind me just here to grudge post>>743618705>>743633020
Katalina anons why does it feel like Army of Two is her only decent master trait? Am I missing something with Forever Ares? Maintaining Ares for more than a minute just to get the full benefit of the buff feels like shit.
>>743675280because it is
>>743675280Haven't tried Army of Two yet, how are you even supposed to play it 'optimally'? Get to the last stack and then constantly interrupt the pactstrike with skills so it never finishes?
AAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEE
>>743675759Queue during na hour which is in 3-4 hours
>>743675452>constantly interrupt the pactstrike with skills so it never finishes?you can do dmg skills after the full pactstrike combosupport skills won't let you do pactstrike again after finishing it but you can weave it by>casting it while doing pactstrike ->do dmg skill ->pactstrikeor>dodge mid pactstrike ->support skill -> dmg skill -> pacstrike
>today I learned that I played Maglielle wrong and she has perfect combos>trying to do them>absolutely suckHaha...
>>743675334
First time I have stolen MVP from TWO Fediels at once
>>743676096So if you finish the pactstrike you won't lose a stack if you follow it up with attack skills? I might have to spend some time at barrold testing the ins and outs of this, seems the in-game description isn't really doing it justice.
>>743676339>So if you finish the pactstrike you won't lose a stack if you follow it up with attack skills?yepI just leave one stack and try to maintain it for as long as possible with frozen blade, enchanted lands, and that one stun skill I forgot the name of.
>>743676154The fully charged finishers? Yeah it sucks to control the tornado one. I hope they patch it to control less like it has a mind of its own. It's fine for bosses that stay put but for teleports behind you nothing personnel kid which is more than half of inifinity, it gets really annoying.
>>743676695I found treating it like a boomerang works decently, make it move through the boss somewhat from the side instead of straight at it.
how goes it anons?
>>743676942>Vaan against Luciyou didn't beat itj/k i fucking love running into a vaan for that first lost paradise
>>743676549Huh, I'll definitely have to test it out then, the text made it sound like you'd always lose a stack on finishing the combo so you'd have to constantly watch out not to mash the button too much. I suddenly have a ton more questions, can't wait to get out of the wage cage.
>>743676942I still can't get my bubz s++
>>743676823Yeah, I just hold it and then tap on stick down and then up as soon as I see damage numbers in the hope of stopping its momentum. The problem is when I need to swing it left or right and then it just kind of slides all over the place. I think they made it that way so it kind of holds in place when you're dodging around but it feels clunky either way.
>>743675280Why would you need the Forever Ares buff if you're already hitting cap?
>>743677162It buffs damage dealt, i.e. final damage after the cap.
>>743676942I haven't even reached infinity
>>743676695I mean perfect finishers when you need to let button right after the purple flash. I need to master it if I want to use her exclusive sigils.
>>743676981i'd say half of them are with Perci
So i unlocked very hard quests and now my biggest gate to progress is money, what's you guys best tips for fast rupies?
I tried Infinity The World for the first time.I hated it.
>>743677851Check the shop and hit the last option, it should let you sell all the tradable itemIf you still need rupies, just progress the main story / co-op, eventually you'll have a lot of rupies
>>743677914Beat the story, my current strat is killing bosses and selling excess dropsThere's one i've been doing that drops a lvl 3 guts sigil pretty frequently and they're worth a fair amount too
I'm sorry for the stupid question but why is Stun Power so important? Does it really matter if you stun an enemy in 5 or 10 seconds?
>>743677419Oh, you mean bladedance 4. Yeah, don't forget to double down on bladedance during link strike. You can get double bladedance when you're already shooting at it when the stun bar breaks.
>>743677162Attack+% (pre/outside of combat): worthless once hit the damage capAttack up+% (when applied during combat, will have a buff icon near your health bar) increases your damage as it says up to the damage cap. When reaching the damage cap, any further boost is halved (eg if you're already at the damage cap, a 30% attack up buff from a skill will increase your damage by 15%)Damage/DMG Dealt+%: takes whatever the final damage number you would've done and then amplifies it by the %. Does not interact or care about damage cap.Damage/DMG Dealt+% sources from BASE game content: generally functions the same as Attack+% (pre-combat) and is restrained by the damage cap in most situations. Overdrive Assassin says DMG Dealt +80% but because it's from base game content before they decided what words actually mean, this does not function post-cap like all ER sources of damage dealt amp are. However there some exceptions, like Narmaya's Warpath, which DOES amplify final damage.:)
>>743678062stun is important because the only bosses that matter have massive stun bars and will cause you to instantly fail the quest if you don't break them in time and/or you'll get less Link Times because by the time you're about to break them they'll fuck off and do some intermission attack and when they come back their meter will have reset.
>>743678062That could be the difference between getting Link Time off or the boss going into his yellow temper tantrum and resetting the stun bar.
>>743677889Get your first Qucikening just guard and you'll see why people like it.>>743678062Enemies start having stun checks instead of DPS checks. And even back then when Zero was endgame, you generally couldn't stun him with base stun power so cheesing him with link time was just off the table without it.
>>743677889why
>>743678046Very hard is still very early, I'd suggest you to unlock higher level firstYou can sell higher level sigil too
>>743678087Thanks, I guess.>>743678191>>743678239I got one perfect guard, but most of the time I either guard too early or too late (death), which just snowballs into an embarrassing showcase.
>>743678298I need money to do that tho, most of my guys only have level 75 weapons and its like 10k to uncap
So how does save scumming actually work? I always get the same shit from synthesis, and doing stuff between rolls doesnt change it??
>>743678780save gameroll for sigils/sigil fusionif no like roll, quit to menu and then load gamedo a mission (not conflux)repeat
>>743678780Change which 2 sigils you used for synthesis. If it still doesn't shit out what you need, do a random quest.
>>743678861Is there an official fastest mission to use? One with only a single enemy and no chests.
>Bought DLC>Haven't played this game in several months, know nothing anymore.>Expecting my save to be gone. It's not. Right where I left off post bahamut farm for one Terminus (Eugen), and nobody else has gear.>Do (read:scrape by since the sigil system is convoluted and I didn't get it) conflux quests until the quest to unlock a new difficulty emerges.>Try it, do no damage obviously. Fail miserably.So what exactly do I need to do to get at least partially ready? I only have one character playable due to the whole 'online parties' thing, and the other characters I do actually have aren't great (undergeared Charlotta, fire sword guy and apparently Yodarha) plus I didn't use crewmate cards to really unlock anyone else?
>>743678780if you're going to save scum sigil fusion and you're on pc, just use the mod that lets you pick the fusion outcomeyou get absolutely showered with sigils in ER so fusion is shrimply a matter of tedium when you're trying to get a certain outcome.>>743679243literally any boss mission that you can kill in one hit
>>743679270The fastest way is host a lobby and got carryIf you want to do it alone, awaken your ancension and terminus, so you can transcend your defender for better useBut the transcend mats are only farmable in chaos difficulty, you might need to take some time if you're going to play aloneThat being said, HOST THE LOBBY
I am in proud now and the quests with 3 bosses are so.... unfun. I am not getting killed thankfully but it is so stupid to have 2 other bosses hitting you from off screen.
>>743679773I'll recommend stout heart if you're playing melee and having some hard time
Magi main here, for the other anon talking about her finishers you basically want to treat her 1st one as a quickie you can toss in anywhere if you don't have much time or expect the boss to move soon. It turns purple almost immediately on contact so it's essentially free.Use the 3rd one when you've got a bit more time, preferably when you know the boss won't move for a second or two. If you wait a moment after contact it will pass through the boss, then you pull back towards you and it will usually turn purple as it's returning.The 2nd finisher I use least since you usually need to reposition it a bit on the small humanoid shaped bosses. It's fine enough for big things but takes a little longer to hit purple range that it should imo.
>>743679687>Awaken your Ascension and Terminus>AscensionMight be missing something.>DefenderNever found it. Don't know what this is. >HOST THE LOBBYAm waging. Plus I'd be a floor humper since I'm nowhere near optimal. I'd be hosting later, if anything.
>>743680265I mean to say ancension and defender is one of the earlier weapon you forge from smithThey got giga upgrade after DLC
>>743681034Oh neat. Guess I'll crank out some defender weapons.
>DPS check in the end>you lose the whole fight if you fail itBruh...
>>743681408your fate is over retard
>>743681408Teaching you to save your SBA for the finisher, not to get to the end.
>>743671642Not breedable by Gran btw. Still baffled how the game has any following post Cantbreedfantasy
>>743681408>"You didn't pay enough" mechanics>In a game where you can't pay to winAmazing.
>>743671642No Vampy no buy.
>PL still hits you through dodge invul
>>743682665Pretty sure they don't
>>743682735Well, I sure got fucked over with a hit and hp debuff at the same time I got an invul.
I've noticed a bizarre problem where specifically at Hexa after the platforming phase, specifically for my CPU Id but not any rental Id or any other character, he will often stop using SBA for the rest of the fight. It didn't start happening until recently so maybe there's a sigil or master trait that makes him retarded, but it sure sucks ass finding out halfway through the fight that he's going to throw.
>>743682057Why not?
>>743679773If you keep playing you'll be dealing with a lot more multi-boss quests, the dlc has them too. As the other guy suggested stout heart makes them less of a pain. Nimble Onslaught too if you level it enough to get the extra seconds of invincibility on pdodges.
>>743683645nta, but it's not possible for interracial couple in granblue to reproduce which doesn't matter anyway cause cygames will never allow fade to black sex and even kissing in their gachashit
>>743683645Because they needed to make up some drama for an event and decided that would be the drama source, even if it’s contradicted by a bunch of other shit already established in the 10 years before hand because one of the writers literally doesn’t give a shit about the setting or lore.Danchode specifically has plenty of friends that could help them work around it though including Cog and Babu.
you can breed whoever you wantyou don't even like cygameswhy do you respect their canon?the people that spend all fucking day crying about this shit are so fucking retarded.
Whatever happened to PlatinumGames involvement? Is any of their "DNA" still in the game? What even was the deal with their involvement? They're not in the credits anywhere are they?
>>743684910A billion years ago they dropped so Cygames made it themselves, it's why it took so longGod forbid you google, you fucking monkey
I don't understand how to make a good build.
>>743684910They're not in the credits. They developed the game on a contract and took way longer than they were supposed to, so CyGames ended the contract, poached a bunch of their staff, and took over the project internally. Most of what Platinum made seems to have been kept in the game, since everything they showed in the previews is in.
>>743684910I think PG was just contracted to do the design concept of the game, what you see in the first gameplay trailer.Then Cyg took the project internally and remade it from scratch while keeping the core gameplay element. I've also read somewhere that they poached a bunch of devs from PG to continue to work on the game.
>>743685270Just slap on whatever sounds good on it and hope for the best.
>>743685270https://rentry.co/ytczavomYou can use this as a reference. Just don't worry about the meme crab sigil.
>>743685270You want things that will boost your damage, but at a certain point you will hit the damage cap wheere then you will want things that raise it. Then on the side of that, you can get things like supplemental damage which circumvents the cap in its own way. Lastly, depending on how good you are at the game, you will want supportive traits (potion hoarder, guts, stout heart, etc.)When it comes to the new things like the extended mastery tree, that's entirely character and playstyle dependent
>>743685270>war elemental>stun power>dmg cap>supp dmg>berserker echo>spartan echo>celestial ventus>celestial aqua>immortal shellthen whatever utilities you like or your character needs in remaining slots, or fatebreaker/celestial lumen if you aren't cappingi'd personally consider improved dodge + nimble onslaught mandatory and potion hoarder/autorevive/guts always worth taking for insurance
>Evyl Blackwyrm>couldn't bypass the final DPS check>said fuck it and went online>was lucky and and one hundred-fifty was in the game>he died the most and wasted almost the whole reviving meter>wonI know I'm supposed to feel bad but I don't.
>>743685418>I've also read somewhere that they poached a bunch of devs from PG to continue to work on the game.Seems like they jumped off of a sinking ship right before it sunk. Being on Cygames's non-gacha division seems like it'd be a lot better than being stuck at PG.
Is this a trap? -30% SBA gain seems like a pretty damn huge downside.
>>743686034Would need to see it in action but it's not necessarily a trap as long as she can reach 70% by the time everyone else is ready to do a chain
>>743686034It used to be -50%.As long as you're getting to around 60% in the time it takes everyone else to get to 100% it's fine.
>>743686034You can easily slot some uplift in the weapon and sigils to counter this.
>>743686034Narmaya has a mastery trait that increases SBA by 10% so you're working with -20%.
>infinity bahamut>its another episode of me soloing the boss while the rest of the team fights Id on the other side of the arenapain
Where can I find good Wrightstones?
>>743686571Siero
>accidentally went online with character I've never played beforeWell, I'm glad that my teammates were competent at least.
Any granblue character that encapsulates picrel
>see fediel in team>leave matchwhen is that slut getting nerf like that forgotten whore, ferry?
>>>/vg/
>see Fediel on team>quest goes faster and I get a face full of her big boobas every time she pops SBAthank you based FediGODS
>>743678087>Attack up+% (when applied during combat, will have a buff icon near your health bar)Note that buffs like this (and debuffs to def against the boss) will have no effect on damage dealt during overdrive. DMG buffs still work as expected.
I did my best.
>>743689056you need them mastery trait levels dawg
>>743689056Coughing Mag vs Hydrogen bomb
>>743689056You have much room to grow. Okay maybe not grow because you are Mag, but you can become much stronger with mastery levels.
I love my pogo stick wife
>>743689530registered sex offender + predator
imagine
>>743689605out of 10!
>>743689724>spamming support skills like a bitchassyou didnt earned the mvp lmao
>>743689724What mastery tree do you use with him?
>>743689605owari da...
>>743689724>Lore accurate danchou John Granblue
Why is feddy such a creepazoidNO YOU CANT WATCH GET OUT OF MY ROOM
>>743671642Did they finally manage to keep coop alive and retain an active player base besides a few people endlessly grinding the same 2 endgame bosses?
>>743690147yep
>>743690147yeah it’s not just endless p-baha and slimepede again
>>743690130
>>743689724support or actually dps?I never got MVP from fediel even though I spam phalanx / rage all the time
>>743690317She will be a mother afterwards
so how many ways are there to get damage cap now? i got 65 trait, i know i have to transcend weapons so thats in progress, but is there anything else? overmasteries are done and i already have M.Level for all 3 styles maxed, but there's gotta be more right? still overcapping on some attacks with beatrix at mid-chaos
>>743690184>>743690245hmm might be worth checking this out again sometime then
>>743690501summons
>>743690501also at trait level 50 you can eventually uncap that even further which adds new nodes to your main mastery tree with damage cap
So since every gacha seems to have some form of female rapist, which one qualifies for granblue?
>>743690683Zeta
I don't know how this happened when I wasn't even honors scamming with Phantasmagoria or debuff/support mastery. Always kinda thought super collapse Cag was below average.
>>743690750proof?
>>743691079>>743689998
Still on the fence about getting Relink Ragnarok, I've been really into Palworld but I have FOMO to play this while other people are playing it.
>>743681408many such cases
>>743691231I dont see her pinning anyone down and wringing a baby out of them though?
>>743692379BLUE BOARDBLUE BOARD
It'd be cool if in relink 2 they let gran switch between all the basic classes
>>743692379lewd
>>743671642How the fuck is this homo angel game still alive?
>>743693071May be hard to believe but we have a whole world here outside of Southeast Asia
>>743684910rumors are PG used Cyg as paypigs for other projects while doing the bare minimum on Relink but Cyg eventually figured what PG was doing and kicking them out, taking part of their devs with them and then created a new studio for the development. Given what PG did afterwards it sounds plausible
>>743693286Platinum really hit rock bottom anyway. Glad Cy was able to save the project.
Did they say whether they will continue to update the game?
>>743693356Outside of their Nintendo games I cant even remember what they did all the years after their heights. There was this live service game but this was DOA and otherwise? I think all the big names left at this point anyway so only their IPs remain and some of them were already sold off like Astral Chain to Nintendo. I recall the people that left created their own studio to produce AAA games now but I cant remember if they announced anything yet. Sounds just like what they did at PG creating some super huge mystery game with the funding coming from other projects like relink when they were still contracted.
>>743693931most recently they co-dev’d Ninja Gaiden 4
>>743693870I figure it's still up in the air, maybe smaller updates. We weren't supposed to get ER, it's basically a bonus in itself. Relink did so well that they made ER after two years so who knows, reception has been good so far so it's possible we may get a little more.
Are there some combinations that are impossible to roll? I'm trying to get a greater aegis sub but it's not happening.
>>743694289we are getting swimsuit dlcunironically
Recently bought the game and am really feeling the difficulty spike trying to go into Chaos. What should I have on myself/party to make it reasonable? Playing Io, party is Eugen, Cag, Eustace.
>>743694608You mean when you make sigils fuck each other to make a new sigil baby? yes, you should get the combination eventually if that's what you mean, there's no impossible combo outside of cheating of course. RNG can be a nigger sometimes.
>>743694760As in you're having trouble even getting into to chaos or that you're struggling but you've cleared some chaos quests? Like if its the latter one of the biggest power boosts you can give yourself are transcending your weapons and getting to rank 10 mastery level. The early chaos quests are far simpler than the eternal duo and should get you the first set of mats for the 1-3 transcendence and they can also drop the important 3 of spartan echo, war elemental and berserker echoYour character choice looks fine, all the AI have been reported as good so i'm assuming its a gear difference. How are your sigils and weapons looking?
>>743694760I felt no spike other than the eternals taking a bit longer to beat, but I wasn't using terminus like the game warned me to. All I did was transcend defender immediately after that and things went back to normal.
>>743695603Struggled with the Eternals and was worried that the rest of Chaos would be like that, so it's good to know they're not the floor. Pic attached are Io's sigils, Eugen and Eustace are similar for dps and Cag has a bunch of cd reduction for support.
Every time I get a Luci summon drop it's fucking tyranny or beta just give me berserker echo I'm sick of the homo angel mines aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh
>>743694740Hard confirmed?>inb4 it's for homoknights only
>Game options>Full assist mode>Alt + tabYup, it's grinding time
>>743696431in one of the livestreams they did before launch they confirmed alt costumes are comingsummer outfits specifically is probably wishful thinking but I guess we will see
Call me a retard but how do I gear up to beat the two eternal people to unlock the expansion quests
>>743696706Do you have your terminus weapons maxed or close to max for your party?I was able to do it with most of my party around 21-23k power but now I am grinding because I feel undergeared for chaos mode
>>743696178Setting aside the obvious upgrading to V+ sigils and better secondary effects as you get them you have most of the skeleton of a build. As you transcend your weapons and go through the DLC you'll find that you no longer need stamina and tyranny to hit damage cap and berserker echo. Make sure to test your damage at the DMG cap training dummy at some point. You should have also gotten a fatebreaker/dmg cap sigil for beating the eternals so thats not a bad one to slot in. IIRC the quest just after the eternals should award you summons so thats an extra 4 effects to work with but for now thats an okay baseline. On a side-note how deep into the conflux are you allowed to go? Depth 3 should be doable and has an option for the good sigils and awakening of terminus weapons if you need a power boost
>>743697153Depth 3 is the deepest, yeah. So pretty much I just have to go back and actually farm for good gear rather than power through everything. Time for the transmutation mines ig.
>>743696706At this point, the game should let you run conflux 3 which gives you everything you need to max a terminus weapon. If you want this for your ai, you need to play as them and do 3 sba’s, fight Bahamut versa, and maniac angra mainu.
>>743696706You may need to grind proto bahamut for a bit to get terminus forging mats.
>>743696601Summer Mag in micro bikini. It's coming.
they ruined charlotta btwshe feels awful to play now
I want to bully harvinsI want to bully Mag by tucking her in and reading her a bedtime story while she screams about being a grown up woman
>>743698218The only thing that changed is that you plunge for damage instead of spinning for damageWarpath and Noblest Stance made things even simpler
>>743698978plunge is lame
I thought I would get raped online, but it turns out most people are even worse than me.
Does Zeta and Beato get yuribait in the gacha
>>743696178>Cag has a bunch of cd reduction for supportI think by this point you should start building everyone mostly towards damage and stun like you would a player if you have the sigils for it. You don't need much purely cooldown related sigils even on someone like Cag other than nimble onslaught, to take advantage of the AI always perfect dodging and charge SBAs faster when combined with uplift. Also I'd start swapping all that supplemental for just spartan and or berserker since transcended weapons and summons can give a lot of attack and health. You can add supp back later on if you have extra space.>>743698849>reading her a bedtime story while she screams about being a grown up womanShe wouldn't actually mind that if the book was about cool swords.
>>743699358Fair enough.I do like seeing the big single number on plunge though.
Is relink good?
Give me the deepest Fediel lore
>>743698978>Noblest StanceIs that what people run? I've been in the invincible tree for a while now.
>>743699741last thing you see before getting de arimasu’d
Why does a lv20 HP wrightstone on my weapon make my HP jump up by 40k? Is there some crazy multiplicative shit going on?
>>743700491Are you using aegis/greater aegis?
>>743699968I've been using it since it increases plunge damage and lets you shortcut to plunge without needing skills or the warpath sigil.
>>743671642Help me decide on last team member: I got Percy, Bea and Capt'. Percy is main, Capt is support and Bea keeps morale high with her obnox...spirited yelling. But I can't settle on 4th member.
>>743700762>Bea keeps morale high with her obnox...spirited yelling.DORYAAAAAAAAHDOKEEEEEEEEEERIDING FREEEEORYAAAAAAAAAH
>>743699881In her dragon form she’s got that skeletussy.
>>743689998Its ok, theres plenty fish in the orphanage
>>743700762Gallanza for the unga or Mag for elegant lady in compact size
>>743700547I just noticed that I had tyranny lv10 on my weapon before. I completely forgot that it lowers HP.
>>743700816Shes like a cheerleader for combat
when are we getting those alt costumes?
>>743701172in another two years
>>743700816>Vas, Zeta and Eustace have to deal with this on a daily basishow are they not deaf yet?
>>743700762>sword>sword>swordSiete.
I feel like ever since I swapped my mastery tree to the "better" one I've been getting lower honor numbers and I can't tell if it's because I've been in the Luci mines instead of other stuff or if my build got fucked
>>743675209>retard thinks that getting MVP means the most damageYou are literally fucking braindead. What do you think>Guardian>Guard Master>Guard LoverAll relate to? Damage?
>>743701172soonTM trust the plan
>>743701172Charlotta's has already been leaked.
>>743701668More like Charlotta pussy
>>743701668mod link NOW
>>743675209I wish the Vanes I ran into did damage instead of bubbling during break
>>743701273>VasHe's augmented.>ZetaShe's just used to it.>EustaceHe uses a gun, which means he has ear protection.
>want to get the final terminus upgrade>have to do EVERY single one of those cancerous infinity fights>finally get to infinity omnis zegalith>fail the quest 5 times in a row>3 of those times have randoms died twice in quick succession when the critical bar is low IMMEDIATELY failing the quest>the other 2 times the game has bugged out and the boss is just sat there behind his invulnerable shield and not movingI think I'm just going to properly build up 3 more characters to do it with AI and hope it just fucking works. I REALLY don't like the infinity fights at all, they're all fucking terrible and the last one doesn't even fucking work properly.
>>743701943The only legitimately frustrating one is Luci.I thought the rest were a lot of fun and still fair.
>>743683883>>743684020Yeah, which as a result of shipping Homoknights and coombait all throughout GBF leading to one massive decline. Like half of the female cast which were lusting after Gran now have to follow it with that asterisk, because Cygames is led by retards.
>>743674691Which character got fixed? Does that include photomode fade filter as well?
>>743701749Vane is at his worst during break/SBA chains/linktime.
I feel like Low Profile is extremely underrated. I got it on my weapon at lvl 10 and I pretty much never get targeted.
>>743702383I would think it’s value varies greatly depending on the fight.Most of the time the danger isn’t the boss directly targeting you but all of the aoe bullshit they vomit all over the arena.
>>743702383I always have it on when playing Tweyen or Io, it's great. I would guess Maglielle also benefits from it but I haven't played her yet
>>743702460it’s good for characters that need to sit still and charge up a big attack from far away
>>743702509Mag can frame 1 dodge cancel almost her entire moveset, doesn't lose her progress on Blade Dance, and can continue controlling her finishers during dodges. She's well-suited to taking aggro.
Who is the best ranged charnother that ty?
Man, carrying support skills is so tough on most characters. I have skill slots to spare as eugen but on both Siegfried and Lancelot is a huge sacrifice.Is it overly selfish to not bring mirage (70% damage cut) or glaciate?
I knew that gallanza is considered one of the largest draphs, but I actually didn't expect him to be noticeably taller than ghanz and vas
>>743702275He may gain almost nothing during link time, but even with the bubble style there's no way it's worth doing nothing for 7+ seconds to activate a tiny buff over attacking on his own. But that's how all the Vanes I run into play and it always makes fights miserably slow.
>>743703196Lancelot’s freeze is one of the best CCs in the game, I would take it always.Sieg with his dmg cut saved my butt in a couple infinity quests so if I was playing him in a hard quest I would just take the dps loss if it means less people dying.
>>743675209How?I stopped leveling my Vane since all his moves felt like they did fuck all damage.Is it growing hostility?
>>743703671>glaciate is a must have>+supp dmg is amazing>you need a gap closer>southerncross is your best damage move>mirror image buff opens lots of attack windows>jump skill is also loved for some reason, tried it for a bit and found it lacking but whatever
>>743703993I know that struggle because I play Siete and he has some really good utility, but also hugely benefits from being able to shit out different damage skills as often as possible to keep building meter.
>>743703697Blocking gives a lot of honors. Guess what Vane does 99% of the time?
Finally finished the base story. How much grinding do I have between where I am now and ER?
>>743703993>glaciate is a must have>+supp dmg is amazing>you need a gap closer>southerncross is your best damage moveThere you go, there's your loadout.>mirror imageYou already have an invuln Y and can do entire combos after Nimble Onslaught. I'd take it if it were a party buff but I see no point when it's just self with nothing else attached.
>realized I've been queueing into japan for two weeks>switch to NA>no matches for chaos+ok back to japan I go I guess
>>743704824I’ve been getting queued with almost nothing but japanese players in Chaos++ and infinity anyway. I don’t know where all the other gaijin piggus went.
>>743704824Why are you not just using "any"
>>743704912Oh I just saw there's an 'any' setting but that probably limits me to other people set on any? Guess we'll see
>>743703413How does Vas put on/take off his helmet?
>>743704984>but that probably limits me to other people set on anyCorrect.
>>743704274Pic shows both top honors and damage dealt
>>743705217>using the buggy parser from nexus>bragging about 2.4 million a minute on a character with almost 100% uptimelol
>>743705018The same way all draphs with headgear do
>>743705601Cry harder parslet. If I see you doing sub 600k in my quests you are getting blocked.
>>743705601That's the thing, even with full uptime Vane hits like a wet noodle save for energy discharge and with the nerf to supp damage proccing his personal sigil it's on a long as fuck CD
>>743705718As a Vane main I'm well aware of his shit damage. That's why it's so funny that some autists insist Vane is actually really good or top tier.
When is he gonna say Gran?Hello??
Zetabros... I don't mean to be a negative nancy but I'm not feeling her anymore.
Okay are my chances or getting DMG cap + Crit Rate extremely low by design or am I just getting fucked on RNG here? This is like my 40th reset.
>>743706753RNG is fucking you because they thought making it fully RNG was a good idea. Download the mod that lets you pick the outcome and spare yourself this nasty RNG bullshit. Even if you pick a repeating trait on a sigil so that it has a higher chance to show up the game will STILL fuck you over.
>>743706753you want crit + dmg cap, not dmg cap + critThank me later
>>743706909>Download the mod that lets you pick the outcome and spare yourself this nasty RNG bullshitI don't like busting out the mods because at that point I may as well download cheatengine and just give myself all the best sigils. I at least kinda wish they would make a decision to either force autosaves here or patch in the decision themselves.
>>743707001they shouldn't thank you because you don't want a crit sigil in the first place
>>743707094Fair enough, but I personally did my time in base game with that bullshit sigil synthesis and I'll be damned if I put 30+ hours into doing that alone when I just wanna keep fighting the dlc bosses instead and not worry about sigil shit. You STILL can't do anything about character sigils having shit secondary traits btw, that's still all gacha unless you cheat. I used the mod to speed up the synthesis for my AI companions because I'm just not gonna deal with it anymore, simple as.
>>743707197Well at this point in my game I still need one or two crit sigils to get 100%. But honestly i'm convinced there's some kind of algorithm in the game that dictates which traits are "high value" and gives them significantly lower chances of pairing them up.
>>743671642What characters would I like if I like magic , attacking quickly, or smooth combos a la Vergil's boots and gauntlets from DMC V?Also should I just go ahead and drop this game if I don't plan to do the grinding end game
The Rolan mines have failed me today, this is the best I got
>>743707839I got a rolan and beebz summon so fast but I've been at luci for days and cannot get one for my fucking life
They should let us play Mariachi Danchou.
>>743707839Isn't that just the first time reward for completing the infinity quest?
>>743708057I got three Rolans and they all suck.I would suck Rolan.
Can anyone OTHER than Fediel carry shitters that do no damage and stun?
All these characters and I choose to play the retard. I love her.
>enter any infinity quest>everything going well>slip up at some point>slip up again>can't recover and either have to be carried or the quest fails because someone else was doing even worse
>>743671642After 80 hours in the expansion I think I'm done until they update it again. Can't really be bothered going hard on summon farming. It doesn't really seem worth the effort.
>>743693071SEAbro I hate to break this to you but the angels haven't been relevant for longer than they have.
I need a tall brown skinned big tiddy dragon bitch in my life niggas
>>743708292God I wish human females were real
anyone infinity quests
>>743707482>smooth combos a la Vergil's boots and gauntlets from DMC V?Fraux has a slow kick and fast kick stance gimmick, that is marginally similar to Balrog. As for the grinding idk because I haven't finished the dlc. Not sure how necessary it is for whatever the endgame is.
>>743710589>>574706545
>>743710589>>743710835ID: 6HMN FGYU B3C1 DETTPass: KokoDoko
>>743671642Isnt that the one with the nasty tranny? No thx
>>743710937damn u guys just departed? says it was 3/4
>>743711237We JUST filled
Who else AFK grinding right now?
>>743711263NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>743711276gotta that enugi grind going in the background
>>743711276I've been doing some 4 dragons afk grinding and I'm not sure why, but there's something incredibly upsetting about seeing Silver Centrums at 999. It's like the game is laughing at my prior suffering in base Relink. I should really be building up more weapons for other characters but I can't be bothered to go back to early Chaos
Damn. I'm already burnt out on the DLC, relinkers.Shoud've just cheated in MSP instead of soul draining slime grind.
>>743712358Except for refinium, they are VERY generous with low level chaos mats. Like you can do a single quest and thatll be enough
I heard cosmetics were unlockableAnyone have pics of the new outfits?
>>743712630>I heard cosmetics were unlockableTheres very little in terms of cosmetic customization
>>743711276Trying to get a decent Rolan drop. I like the fight, but I'd go mad if the only option was manual grind.
>>743712392If you build Eustace, you can afk the harder choas++ quests and you get viable endgame summons along with shitloads of msp, crafting mats, and sigil synthesis fuel.
>>743712831But theres more then just recolors.... right?
>spent the last two days trying to get mods to work on the steam deckReloaded launches, and can launch the game, it just doesnt actually mod it. I could mod it on my pc and then just transfer the game over to my deck again but thats over 100 gigs of transferring, it'll take forever. There has to be a better way.
>>743712894
>>743712520Talking of refinium, does anyone remember what the best quest is for farming Exceptional Refinium? I assume I can get lots in Conflux 3 probably, but if there's an obvious quest to farm I'd rather do that
what's the song that plays during the ice and earth dragon double boss fight in Chaos? Apparently a lot of the dlc fight songs are from the gacha and other things so I'm not familiar with them.
>>743713702If you can remember how it sounds it might be worth checking in the Music Collection part of Lyria's Journal, as it has song names there
>>743713809>Music Collection part of Lyria's JournalI forgot the journal had things like that. The only time I've used it for something other than the rewards was during the Roland journal hunt.
Why is she looking at me like that
>>743714069If you were smart, like Beatrix, you'd have remembered!
>>743713547I just trade in my rafale coin for it exclusively
Which boss drops stout heart summons again?
>>743714821>from the rentryStout Heart:Supernatural Appetite for Meat (Behemoth III)The Myths Are Real (Behemoth III) <-- My recommendationFour Dragons of the Apocalypse (Vrazarek Firewyrm III)4 dragons gives berserker echo and lots of msp and fort L too if you need that
>>743705840As an actual Vane main his damage is far from the worst. It's his being borderline invincible and the uptime that comes with it.Also anyone not on the fucking crux tree is throwing.
>>743714321>I'm even more retarded than Beanyo... but seriously I ended up finding it. And I like how the collection has little animations that show whether the song is a battle theme or exploration one. It's legitimately soulful.
>>743714298She found your homework folder
>>743715031It's pretty damn close. He's in the bottom 5 for sure.
>INFINITO CREAREHoly shit it's beautiful.
How do I Yodarha?
>>743715909Depends of the mastery trait.I like the one that makes you spend your kanji number shit to do more finishers.You basically try to maintain Illusion on everyone then buff and use counter if needed to get back to kanji shit 3 then spend it on finishers.
>>743707094I really don't see how simply picking an option is any different than save scumming until you get the outcome you want.
>>743714918>berserker echoNot Stout heart?Anyway it's a long afk session for this one, I recommend doing before going to sleep. Use a PowerShell script to automatically turn off your PC after a hew hours.
>>743711276im such an autist i hate the idea of not having afk grinding in the background if im on my pc. first thing i did when i booted up my pc was set it up. even built eustace to afk farm more efficiently, though i gave him a far shot playing him normally but he does not feel fun to play. farming for fortitude crystals now and gonna decide on trying a new character. though when i get maxed fortitude crystals i am switching from 4 dragons to luci.
>>743671642what's the best ai team for solo'ing? specially for proud/chaos quests? i'm willing to grind whatever materials/weapons necessary to make them work
>>743716056Is the counter-based one any good?
>>743689056>>743689134I stopped playing before getting any terminus and just returned, what is this mastery trait thing?
>>743716403Eustace, Id, and Gallanza are the standouts to me. At Proud's progression levels you might get more out of Zeta, Siegfried, Eugen, or Fraux. Consider Cag if you desire a healslut.
>>743716403Eustace as your leader. Put Provoke on him too.For party members, Siegfried Eugen and Fraux are kings. Yodarha is also very good for Mirror Image to the rest of the party. Don't forget you can also just enlist a good Fraux/Siegfried too, so you really only have to build 3 party members to start with.
>>743715849>temu ubwis the damage worth it outside of link time, avatar gauge drain and sword shine buildup?
>>743717537In the fights where bosses don't fuck off every 15 seconds to do their shitty cutscene attacks, yes.In those, no. It's fucking painful how slow it ramps.
>>743717537It's his best attack skill even without the master perks. Arguably the non-Essence version is better since you can dodge cancel it early and still get full damage and stack multiple with Crux
How come i only see clock bea?
>>743717821it does the most damage, and from my experience, she doesn't do much damage to begin with. which is a shame because the triple clock build is not fun to setup and playing her standard feels a lot more fun, changing up the clocks based on situation rather than if you need the buff
>>743712392What a FATTY.
Cagliostro say trans right!
>>743686034SBA gain largely does not matter because of how bursts work. You're always going to be able to join in unless you're at like 40-50% when it starts but if that's the case you're doing something wrong even with that sort of a penalty. It primarily matters for characters who naturally generate meter quickly so they can start the chain faster but even then there are plenty of cases where it's not going to amount to more damage.Really wish that instead of nerfing Ferry they leaned into SBA gain as an archetype because she brought actual nuance to the system.
>>743719048Is Uncle Cag a virgin?
>>743690894You get bonus honors for any buff/debuff application. Super Collapse applies a defense down debuff. Super Collapse Cag basically has a 20 second "inflate my honors" phase multiple times per fight.
>>743706753>save scummingYou're most likely on a bad seed.
>>743717821isnt skill chain better for getting into DC quickly and consistently?
>>743686034>-30%Nice, they buffed it. Used to be -50%. Guess I'll actually use it now, whenever I get around to playing Narmaya again.
>>743719048Cags a dude?
>>743719913you just realized that after he rimmed your ass?!
Generals belong on /vg/
Sorry you missed your chance this time. Better luck with your next janny application.
>>743720306Make sure to check your janny acceptance email lil bro
>>743713702I believe it's this, galleon fight from versushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hfp8FxuMIMiirc only conflux song is new in relink
It took me 10+ hours to get all weapons crafted for Id and FedielAre people seriously doing their weapon grind for their 3rd character an onwards without cheating?I'm doing the infinity and chaos++ grinds legit but there's no fucking way you expect me to do proud and maniac quests again, I will just cheat 999 materials for those.
>>743721727mats isn't even the hard partthe hard part is MSP
Anyone got insight into which of katalinas styles are better.i have tried 2 so far and no matter what i still have to unga bunga or lose ares.the 1 style seems to allow you to spam pactstrike combo 3 times and I guess has more damage because of DMG up. Still both styles she plays the same.Not tried the light wall style yet but i guess its just the same.
>>743721727I'm almost done with my 3rd.
Can Bea survive with Terminus? If so, what utility sigils does she use since G.Aegis is out of the question?
>>743721727Only Excavallion materials are a pain to farm. Everything else you can stockpile dozens of in a matter of minutes.
>>743721727>3rd character an onwards without cheatingYes. Why be a faggot.I ucapped, levelled and awakened every characters weapons before ER released. No AFK, just play the game and grind, it is the point.>>743721785MSP and there is a grand refinuim 1 bottleneck which I think the devs want you to farm in conflux.You can repeat chaos 1 quests and the last 4 bosses drop like 17 but you get other materials farming conflux, which you will need for the next character.
>>743717537>temu ubwwait until you see who voices archer..
>>743719312>has a 20 second "inflate my honors" phase multiple times per fightThe 20s collapse spam is on the insight tree not the essence one.
>>743676942going for war element with normal attack cap up ive only managed to get one with 100% skybound damage cap
Are buffs like this 10% attack on Y useful if I'm already hitting like 300% cap on Y attacks? Will it boost my damage beyond cap?
>>743721898>Yes. Why be a faggot.It will literally take 500+ hours to do it for all characters and I don't want to grind a shitton for a character only to find out I don't like playing as themPre-ER grind is nothing compared to the insane levels of grinding for post-ER
>>743722462No
>>743722501>Pre-ER grind is nothing compared to the insane levels of grinding for post-ERHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHYou fucking retard. You didnt even play the game.You can max every character in about 20 quests in ER.Grinding is the fucking point of the game.You literally dont even want to play the game you just want to jump to end game and give yourself no reason to do anything.Stop being a retard, the grind, the journey to end game withe very character is the fucking point, it is the gameplay.
>>743722501You can try them in the lower difficulties as you gather their mats.
>>743722501>Pre-ER grind is nothing compared to the insane levels of grinding for post-ERNot really, pre synthesis relink was way way WAY grindier.
>>743722634>You can max every character in about 20 quests in ER.Why you lying broI've literally done 100+ infinity quests
>>743722363>SBA damage capI'd take that over my crit rate
>>743684910they pretended to do work while in reality they stole the money to fund their games and cygames gave them the boot
>>743722762>infinity quests>I been doing the quests that dont actually give me the materials for weapons and MSP to max my charactersWhy are you a retard.
>>743722109I think he means link time since you can tap collapse after every skill. And I thought it was pure damage and not honors scamming. They kind of did Cag dirty with these master traits.
>>743691550Well, better sooner than later if you plan on doing multiplayer
>>743706753You need to do any quest to reset seed after reloading.
>>743723143I pretty much stopped looking for players in chaos 1 an 2 now, takes too long to find people rather than storming through the quest.Similar thing happened to base relink with maniac after 2 weeks. I think chaos++ especially the gold quest will be active for quite a while as you can grind summons from them that are useful at end game.
>>743722831Infinity is the only fun part of the gameWhat's the point of doing shit like early chaos and proud when most of my characters have nut sigils and summonsIt's literally impossible to lose
>>743723295>what is the point of doing the quests that drop all the materials that I need to transcend my weapons>what is the point in replaying all the content in the game except 5 missionsGod you really are a fucking retard.How about you do this, you play the game as intended.Play a character, build them up, do every quest, then...start a new character and do the exact same.Instead of just repeating the same 5 quests over and over with 1 character you fucking retard.
>>743723389You're really a moron, huh? Or maybe autistic?You legit thought you was cooking with that commentI KNOW I have to grind proud and maniac shit to have mats for my weapon ascensionsWhat I'm trying to get through your tick skull is that shit is not FUN
>>743723438>quests are not funYou fucking retard.Every quest is fun.KYS you spastic
Who's the most mechanically complex character?
>>743683608What the fuck is this gameplay...? Is this just a single player mmo?
What should I farm if I want to upgrade all weapon to 150? Conflux 2?
>>743723467>Every quest is fun.Nah
>>743723527Namaya probably, especially in a quest getting her timing loop is difficult
>>743723541Is multiplayer
>>743723578Just tag the items you need on wishlist then go into conflux and see where they are. Those items will be needed by every character to level your weapons.
>>743722462Those don't ignore the damage cap so they're worthless.
>excited to try Fraux>she's incredibly boring to play and is super button mashy
>>743723916So the only sigils with %ATK that ignores cap is celestial sigils?
>>743671642How are the raid mechanics compared to FFXIV?
>>743724148Basic, but it's okay, this actually has good gameplay.
>>7437236596 star bounty, conflux 3
>>743724006Turbo buttonThat's what I use for lancelot/charlotta
>>743724006>super button mashyWhen characters are like that they are best to be played with stout heart and if they have fast attacks, also drain.I tried her today with her fate episode, she wasnt overly mashy. i didnt put much effort into learning her but it seems she light have a loop of 1 style into the next or 1 style, skill, next loop.>>743724232So do that.or, i would suggest doing the actual missions instead. its where the gameplay is.Dont be like the retard above trying to just get to end game so you can repeat the same 5 quests over and over.Personally i am only using conflux as a top up, but i have played since base game and farmed everything in base game and maxxed everything before ER released.
>>743721786Forever Ares is probably the most consistently useful. Take that to anything C++ or below and it should be fine, maybe a couple of the very late C++ runs like the 4 dragons would be difficult to faceroll. For Infinity you better be supremely confident about your defensive moves because you can't just Ares through everything, so for those fights I would argue Blade Blue, the support one is probably best. Army of Two just doesn't feel good to me, too many conditions.
>>743723279I started ER late but have still had quick matchmaking for all of chaos, including the earlier quests like the Gallanza rematch. I think all the dlc quests are decently populated and will be for the month at least. It's only the base content that's drying up fast with maybe the exception of late Proud.
Every player should be mandated to play the gacha for at least a month and require an active account with verification before being allowed to play Relink. I'm tired of tourists not knowing what they're getting into.
>>743724351Not tried the blade blue yet though i am still using army of two and just slotted light wall as glaciate didnt help me in the later C++ quests.I used to play kat full unga bunga face tank with berserk but took berserk off (wrightstone) just before ER was releasing.She is my 2nd fav character and I was really hoping I could have a different way to play her, like keep ares up as I travel to boss but even army of 2 seems like it dispels ares that only forever ares is viable.Especially as I already have/had a good loop of skills where I could keep ares up for ages.Seems army of two is only there to give you extra time if your cooldowns are not back by giving you more ares pactstrike combos. maybe a viable style to remove cascade/cooldown sigils.Thing with the light wall is invincibility doesn't last that long and the cooldown is long it doesn't even seem worth slotting. though i have not tried the style yet so will build it up and see if I can mitigate it with the traits.Either style I seem to be just playing her the same way, need to slot stout heart, steel nerves, drain and just unga bunga.
>>743724148Closer to PSO2 mechanics than anything since there's a lot of reactive portions rather than full choreography. You can play a ranged character with threat down buffs and the enemy will largely ignore you aside from ground aoes that will always appear, or you can play a melee tank character and have to really engage with the boss throwing hands at you.
>>743724408Yeah i can still find some people but the queues are too long and missions short i am just soloing it now.Might start queuing again for them when i try a new character.
>>743726280>I'm a jannyHE DOES IT FOR FREEE
>>743726280not anymore lul
>>743726280>deletedOHNONONO AHAHAHAHAHAH RETARD.anyway, any other ferry user? how do i cope dealing with RNG removing my pets, even with pet mastery?
>>743724104Celestial sigils use the stat DMG up, also anything %DMG from warpath sigils and in the mastery trait tree ignore the cap. The red attack up buffs with the orange up arrow still work from anything pre-ER when the enemy isn't in overdrive.
Percival is not as fun as I thought he would beI tried both the skill spam trait and the nuke oneI just die to everything while charging his Y and having to keep glancing at the corner of the screen to check if my skills are ready is annoying
>>743726971What a young man
>>743726971Why did you post Leon?
>>743726971You have to max charge reduction time to get those parries out on demand, you should use Molten Edge because there's less cooldown management involved and it does more damage
Fraux is pretty fun to play
Using Eustace as an AI, what skills should I have on him? Is this a good setup or eh?
Is it worth running though the campaign levels again for the crabs?
>>743727098I postd Vane
>>743727181It's the best sigil in the game and the crabs are all marked on the map. It takes about an hour if you just rush the crabs and don't fuck around.
>>743727232Not the best sigil in the game its marginal increase in damage and its a 1 slot sigil, Assuming you mean immortal shell.>>743727181There are also crewmade cards as well as the OG crabs which give you good sigils if you never got them before. Just check the map in every location. Collect everything.
Rosettabros, which type of quest/boss is the most annoying for you?
>>743726971Agreed. He's not hard to play and can be fun sometimes, but I find that it feels like I'm always wasting time even though his DPS is still way above my other characters. He plays almost exactly like Cagliostro but without any of the satisfying combo finishers.
>>743727098he's a bit too young to play leon I'd say
>>743727181It's definitely a good sigil, and it's only 20 of the fuckers instead of 45 this time. There is at least one you have to chase and keep track of for about 10 seconds to get, and another where you do the tayutar portion and you have to specifically hit a part of the environment to access the crab after the fight. So you may want to have a video guide up on another monitor or something if you don't want any issues.
>>743727290>akschuallyIt's good enough that you never want to drop it from any build. Exact rankings don't matter when there are 12 slots. Anything that is good enough that you'd be retarded to not use it is equally "best."
>>743727658>good enough that you never want to drop it from any buildAnon its 5% extra cap and 5% extra sup damage, Slotting 1 opus sigil would be better increase in damage.Crab sigils are meme sigils they are essentially there to be dumped on the captain.
>>743727836Bro
>>743727836>clueless retardAnon please stop. Any build that cares about damage should be using Immortal Shell. No matter what you're thinking of replacing it with is not worth it.
>>743727936I just checked its 10% dam cap if you calculate all them together.a regen and drain sigil, Crit and ATK sigil which you dont need of courseThen a +2 def, 5% sup and 2%damage.Its really nothing.Not worth 2 slots.I would rather slot 2 opus sigils, like alpha and buff the team.
>>743728016STFU you retard, You might as well say any build that cares about damage uses glass canon and berserk.You are a noob at the game.
More reasons why I think Perci is annoying to play is because most late-game infinity bosses have annoying "kill this crystal/thing fast" mechanics and those things usually aren't worth exploding a full nuke on, so I'm just sitting there dealing baby damage to those things and waiting for my teammates to do most of the job otherwise I'm just sitting with a finger up my ass waiting for the boss to stop teleporting everywhere so I can unleash my nuke
>>743728067>trying to compare Immortal Shell to Glass CannonYou genuinely have no idea what you're talking about.
Quick quest keeps matchmaking me with Proud babiesHELLO?Infinity or Chaos++, PLEASE
>>743727836The most important part is the 2% amp, surprisingly. With all effects combined, in practice it translates to roughly 5% more damage than a 5th stat sigil with fatebreaker or lumen. Damage cap is highly diluted by about 2000% whereas amp usually sits around 30~50% and supp is 60~80%.>>743728067The difference is those kill you whereas the crab also has built-in survivability.
>>743728094I am a percy main and the nuke is only good for a few bosses.2 of percy weaknesses are high mobility bosses and killing shit like lucillius weapons because other than skills or schlatt he hits weak. So you have to wind up schlatt and it takes time to do damage unless you are preemptively winding it up.Its why steady focus is a must have sigil for him too and you expect to eat damage.>>743728178>must have sigil for damage>but nit these sigils that increase cap and do more damageKYS retard.You only just started playing the game, you dont know what you are talking about.
>steady focus on percylmfao holy shit
>>743728263>he thinks Glass Cannon is more damage than Immortal ShellYou genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. Even if Glass Cannon was twice as strong without the downside it would be less damage. You're fucking clueless. Stop vomiting ignorance you retard.
>>743728375Yes its stout heart so he can charge schlatt and not ever get hit out of it.If you werent a faggot you would understand that for percy his charges shclatt is his bread and butter an taking damage is not important when getting hit out of the skill/schlatt rotation is a massive dps loss.you fucking retard.Quick charge and steady focus are mandatory sigils for percival.you can be a retard and slot stout heart instead then loose 1 sigil slot, where percy also needs quick cooldown and cascade...and uplift.he is sigil heavy.
>>743728425>vomiting ignoranceironywhen you are vomiting this bullshit>>743728016>Any build that cares about damage should be using Immortal Shelli wonder why you rent slotting beserk and glass canon.you fucking retard.
>>743728491Anon, he has innate steady focus.
Is AI Eustace capable of using his parry skill or no?
>>743721727It's called conflux you dumb motherfucker.>>743727836>>743728024>retard doesn't understand how damage up and supp damage worksPeople with actual brains have already done the math, it's better than any basically every celestial sigil by about double on avarage. Trying to argue it isn't good just makes you look fucking ignorant.
>>743728641Yes, with perfect consistency.
>>743728587>i wonder why you rent slotting beserk and glass canon.Because they have massive downsides while providing less damage than Immortal Shell. Thank you for announcing how much of a retard you are.
>>743726736Warpath Sigil helps, but really you just have to deal with Ferry being generally unfortunate.
Just stop coping collect the crabs, silly.
>>743671642>aislopwhy is the great granblue so without real art
I have no idea how to use this. My endgame save very likely might be gone.
>>743728723Stop replying to bait
>>743728696Oh, that's pretty great then. I like the setup here, parry and his two buffs, but should I replace Flamek Thunder (the stun thing) with anything?
>Collector's DigestI can't get max rank in this dogshit.
>>743721727My AI Io and Fraux generally finishes proud/maniac mag dumping their cooldowns before I can even get to do anything. I just queue one up I need and let them do all the work
>>743728771>fucking around with a save editor in a language he doesn't understand without backing up his save firstWhat is wrong with you?
>>743728628no he doesnt.idk where you got that bullshit from.go charge schlatt against sir barold and watch yourself get hit out of it retard.
>>743728723>loosing 2 sigil slots to a meme sigil is more damageLet me guessYour penis is chopped offOnly those retards can say retarded shit like this
>>743728646>mathsee here>confirmed for no penisyeah i wont listen to your retarded "math" (singular)Fucking dicklessness retardation knows no bounds.
>>743728771What does this do that an English cheat engine table can't do already
>trannies trannies trannies!What mental illness causes this?
>>743726280>deleted
>>743728786You want to keep Flamek Thunder actually, it's one of his better skills.
>>743729162faggotry I guess.You just started talking about trannys you fag, you are in the wrong thread fuck off back to fag board >>>/lgbt/
>>743727181If you want to minmax your damage, yeah. You can pick up the crab and exit the chapter immediately, so it's not as time consuming as you may think. https://rentry.co/ytczavom
>talks about trannies>gets called out on it>"nuh uh actually you're the one doing that!"What mental illness causes this?
>>743728192pretty sure you can't match quick quest with infinity, no?
>>743729383If you are talking about me. i never mentioned trannys.i mentioned something that is even worse than trannys, more mentally retarded and also have their penis cut off.the shitstains of the world.the only ESL retards who call mathamaticS "math"th fucking cock goblin dickless mutt retards......americans(who are also nigger and tranny loving faggots/trannys)god, the world will be a better place without these retards.just look at the retarded shit they post day in day out.
>>743729383Funny too. you are such a dicless retard that when you get called out on being a dickless retard you mind instantly goes "trannys"HAHAHAHAHAthat is how much of a dickless retard you are.
Fediel needs a nerf
>>743729515They nerfed Rackam, they'll probably nerf Fediel.
>>743729531>nerfed RackamYou mean his shotgun stuff from base relink?
Uh oh. We've got a Solar Beam situation.
what is going on in the thread? why are we suddenly talking about trannies
With Nobelest stance Charlotta, how much should you focus on building stacks with normal attacks?
>>743729663Some retarded burger mutt is.You know how much they love their trannys.
>>743729663>suddenly
>>743729561Yes, the jump attack one.
>>743729561I thought that was impractical? Was that just downplaying from Rackam bug abusers back then just like Fediels are trying to gaslight people now?
>>743729729Trannies misunderstand this character so badly it's just sad. Add to that the actual tranny in the gacha outright refusing a new, fully female body because the body he has was a precious gift from his parents and he'd never replace or alter it.
Currently going for the crabs, is there any point going for all the slimes? They don't get marked on the map either, it sucks.
>stealing MVP from a FedielI cum
>>743729959Ever*At least crabs get marked after completing the story, that's nice
>>743729812They also nerfed percivals wheel but that was a kind of exploit.Funny they didnt patch lancelot spam early, well until nerfing FOF but they reduced the amount of "haaa" he did because they seen shitters were all doing lucy with lancy/FOF.its actually been more time now, i think than when relink releaed to teh time they nerfed rackham.>>743729898Not sure if it was a bug. You could charge his shotgun in the air iirc, but the damage cap on it wasnt fixed too high.Its pretty much the same issue with fiedal I think, but there is also here swipe thing I think is being exploited to be infinite so they will probably patch that out.I cant see them leaving in 1 character being massively more outperforming than everyone else.
>third-world brown skin foaming at the mouth over math and blaming Americans for sharing knowledgeWhat mental illness causes this?
>>743729898Jump attack rackam was just as braindead easy to play as fediel is now. Just jump and hold attack, the damage cap on it was set way too high so there was nothing else that could compete with it for damage. Very similar to the current Fediel.
>replying to petty insultsYou're just as brown as himI'm brown too
>>743730027Having one character overperforming if the character requires effort to play like perfection Eustace. But every time we have a character overperforming it is also the easiest shit possible.
>he's still sperging out over mathWhat mental illness causes this?
>>743711276The Infinity quests are pains in the ass so I'm just AFK farming the chaos++ ones instead.
>>743730000>>743730027Oh, so it's like warpath Charlotta spins. It's not rotter wheel cap transfer bugs like Perci, Danchode, or Cag.I wonder when they'll release a fix to stuff. I heard buffs aren't working again in overdrive. I stopped carrying Phantasmagoria in lieu of max shields - which from what I hear is also a bug.
>>743727181It took me like an hour to get all of them. You can quit the chapter after finding them so it's not bad at all.
>>743730027What exactly is it with fediel that is broken?Is there a move that doesn't have the cap sorted like rackhams shit or percivals wheel.
what's the best mastery trait and abilities for seofon? trying to make him work but my damage always seems so low.
>>743730193Izzat. Once you understand it you will understand the absolute retardation some people feel no shame for displaying and why india needs to be rangebanned.
>Connection error>Connection error>Connection successful>Infinite loading screen
>>743730260It's just her multi-orb mastery trait. That's it. That's literally the only thing that makes her an outlier. If she didn't have that(or if she couldn't dodge spam into it) she would simply be strong.
>>743730236>so it's like warpath Charlotta spinsNot even close. Charlotta spins was strong sure but not insanely broken strong like jump attack rackam and ball spam fediel.
>>743730236Charlottas wheel is a rather retarded thing where they added a warpath sigil and because of it, it changes her base kit to a point that doing her base kit is no longer as more damage as the retarded spin to win shit, which of course ignores her base tools.My guess is that they never nerfed it because its simply just an option. you dont have to play her like that at all.
>>743730303Not only that it's specifically the ability the ability to dodge cancel to speed up her attack that makes it broken. if you couldn't dodge cancel the attack so easily she'd be perfectly balanced. It's literally the only reason.
>>743730260From what I hear, her balls have an active hitbox as soon as it spawns, it immediately spawns as soon as you press Y in the air allowing you to dodge cancel and quickly stack 5 of those on top of a boss hurtbox. That along with a high damage caps on the base move.
>>743730342>>743730372They're also active a long time and hit multiple points, so dodge cancelling can be used to reposition Fediel directly by their weak point and have the ball's entire path pass through their bodies.
Action game fanatic here, here's my analysis so farId very funFediel very funPercival kinda funVane kinda funEustace boringEugen boring
>>743730503Yeah, I was wondering why there was some variance on World and Bub and then Versa and Luci. When I heard how it worked it started to make sense with Versa's huge hurtbox and Luci's wings.
>>743729942It's also like a Full Metal Alchemist Alphonse situation where she knows that her male body is one of her most powerful weapons to use in protecting what's important to her as well.
is it a bad idea to equip stout summons on my ai companions? im assuming they will probably be retards and facetank attacks instead of dodging it
why the hell am i finding people at master level 20 in chaos+ pyet-ause your fucking MSP
>Vyrn and Lyriathey won't stop yapping
>>743730924They will, but not if the attack will kill them. Just don't combine lumen and ventus on them unless they have a lot of self-recovery.
>>743730795Try katalina
>>743729106Nothing really. I just followed the wrong guide probably made by a Chinese person.Good news, the first mission of Ragnarok starts Id at level 37 so he can probably carry the rest of my team at level 1. That's the power of being a cuck subsidiary character in the story.
>>743731014Vyrn and Lyria are relics of very old gachasPrease understand
>>743730948Anon, for new player they can only unlock ML30 after unlocking chaos++
>>743731058what? i unlocked it after getting chaos+
>>743730924Remove stat summons from your AI team. Only use stout heart summon for your online character.In fact with your AI team you want a 1 slot, 2 slot and 2 3 slot summon really using them in that order.Well unless you are just min/maxing for quicker clears.Still stout heart will just make them eat shit.
>>743731073You do understand that there are some of us who actually want to play the content at the recommended pwr right?When i start a new character in ER I get to 10 at for chaots, 20 for + and 30 for ++. Will be doing this for everyone unless I dont like the character.though i did just storm through with kat because I wanted to level her fast. Might do the same with seig too.
>>743731183ive been at the recommended power the whole time
>>743671642should I just unlock fraux immediately or wait until I get her card, she looks the most fun to me of the new characters but I wouldnt mind trying maglielle while I wait for her unlock
>>743730873Alphonse is a dude though.
>>743731056i'm so glad Grub isn't a nugacha.
>>743731118This is outdated. With the release of ER they fixed companion AI with Stout Heart. They no longer immediately become suicidal.
>>743701416late response but are you genuine fucking retard anon? It literally has the damage dealt by each player in the picture
>>743731224There's a surplus of cards, so it won't hurt. 2 extra are hidden items in the MSQ and 2 more are from the conflux quests, latter are pretty RNG sensitive though.
>>743731224You unlock her kind of late. Not as bad as Fediel but by the time you unlock her you'll be like 80% done with Endless Ragnarok content.
>>743731430They're still suicidal, just not to one hit kill attacks. They will still facetank most hits, touch a puddle and die.
>>743731224You have to go through most of the quests to get her normally. If you really want to play her, you should just pick her up now. I've gotten all the characters and I have 4 crew cards left, and I know I can collect at least one more card.
>>743731527I cleared Infinity with AI using stout heart and they never died, so it can't be that bad.
>>743703697Crux: Resolve is the only style worth playing on Vane. It does more damage than hostility while being tankier and you can still share buffs from team player, just very very marginally not as well.Arm Destruction and Drachenstolz are generally a lock. Your other 2 skills you can pick between Soul Eruption, Bubble, ED, Heroic Beat and Breakthrough. Take bubble if you can do something useful with it (Paradise Lost), take Soul Eruption if you want to free up trait slots like Potion Hoarder/Autorevive since it should be enough to keep you alive the entire fight if built properly. Take ED if you're fighting an enemy that won't randomly leave whenever you try to use it (do NOT bring it against Lucilius). Take Heroic/Breakthrough if none of the above is relevant.
>the world infinity>miss one quickening parry>someone quits the fightJesus Christ, dudes
>>743704824>realized I've been queueing into japan for two weeksso has everyone else bro, it's the default because small indie companysince everyone's unknowingly on japan, your best option is to also be on japan or pick "any"
>>743685571Not a meme. You can lose 100% DMG cap and still do slightly more damage with Immortal Shell.
So judging from some of the teams i'm seeing ITT elemental weaknesses seem to not matter that much and i should just focus on getting 4 niggas maxed out ASAP, especially as i'm still quite early in the game (highest power character is currently 4.9 k, about halfway through very hard difficulty)>>743731590
>>743685571>just don't worry about the sigil that is worth more than a basic stat + Celestial Terra/Lumenwhy
>>743731752Element only matters before you get War Elemental. After that point everyone hits weakness no matter what.
>>743731752there comes a point where everyone gets a sigil (later a summon) that makes it so you automatically deal weakness damage to everything, always.
>>743731774Did you miss earlier posts where clueless retards were sperging out and crying about America because of math? Whenever you see someone posting something so objectively wrong you don't need to ask them why. Just assume they're literally retarded or trolling.
Odds I fuck my wifeEvens I farm Beatrix pubic hair
did they say if they will add more characters? i was disappointed that the dlc only had 1 guy and 3 girls
>>743731906But they added 2 guys and 4 girls..
>>743731984i don't really care about the 2 old ones
>>743731906No since making new characters is hardThey might sell skin in the future though
>>743732186that's a shame
I totally thought The World's theme had proper English and even thought I knew it but it's all extreme engrish...
>>743732283Wait until you read And You lyrics
How to not die in 1 hit to infinity fightsI have 200k HP ffs
>>743732874steel nerve and crabvestments on summons
>>743732874if you're not running stout heart + steel nerves for a permanent FORTY percent damage reduction then you are a fool
>>743732874Stout heart and steel nerves.
>>743731906The real disappointment is in their thematic value, we got 1 evoker and 1 dragon so they can shove the world and hexa as bosses, instead they could add Ilsa and Cassius as characters with Diaspora and Yatima as bosses because most of society is already in the game and it would justify them being there.This is why homoknights for example are such trash group, they have nothing going on for them, no plot, no big bads, no hype fights, nothing worth of note.What drives me up the fucking wall the most is the fact you could have actually themed DLC with focus on one group, just imagine 12 new unique characters with 14 new bosses in Arcarum themed DLC, that would be sweet. Sadly Cygames is full of retards that never plan ahead so here we are, if we get a new character it's 99% Nier/Galleon/Raziel.
>>743732949But isn't stout heart only when charging attacks?
>>743732874Stout heart steel nerves stronghold crab.
>>743733016You're thinking of Steady Focus
i haven't gotten the crabs but do you only get one crab sigil? would you have to rotate it between characters you want to play?
>>743733016Stout Heart only exists as a single sigil so it doesn't have a V+ version which is why it's very important to find a summon with it to save yourself a slot.
>>743732660No, thank you. I've been hurt by Wings of Terror before...
>>743733196Yes. You just save their sigils to a loadout and whenever you change characters you load it, which will auto rip the sigils back off of anyone else using them.
Last for dogshit game.
>>743729729Transhuman, not tranny
is Relink better solo or multiplayer?
>>743733687Multi but you're only getting there after you finish the tutorial (story)
>>743733016Steady Focus grants the Stout Heart effect while charging. Stout Heart is a sigil itself. You can also get it as a summon main stat(which is ideal because it gives you an extra sigil slot.)
>>743733687Both for different needs.
>>743733687Solo for first clears, multi for farming unless you're a shitter who actually enjoys getting carried hard by people who do ten times more damage than you.
>>743734308i mean when i match with randoms it's always maglielles who dont accomplish much or sandalphons who spend the whole fight having sex with the ground
>>743732949Actually it's 45%. There's a mastery node that buffs stout heart to 30%
>>743734918For who? Also I thought stout heart and steel nerves weren't additive so it was just a 36.25 reduction when combined.
