price and waitlist in 2 hours are you ready ?!?!
>>743684904what about your savings account?you have a savings account, right anon ?
>>743687359b-but i read it solded tens of thousands of cubibles
WHERE IS IIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTT
I'm about to score a nice ~8k next week. i'm ready.
>>74368900940 minutes, trust
No, I'm poor rn and even if I had the money GabeN doesn't ship to my country
>>743684787>Man cant wait to overpay for a console or get an underperforming pc>Costly hardware for a dead gaming medium is right up my alleyOutside of vr chat trannies, who is this for? Vr is beyond dead, with maybe 1 game a year if you're lucky.
>>743689667I dunnothey"re probably betting on the "great on frame" page to inspire devs to create more games for vr i'm buying them for porn mostly
yoo they got balatro vr now
>>743689667the frame is standalone, it also competing against handheldsI'm gonna use mine to play NES games in bed
>>743684787>wireless>not even better resolution than a quest 3>almost guaranteed to be vastly more expensive than a quest 3Why should I be excited for this again?
>>743690134not being bound to Zuckerberg has its price
>>743689069Your dad pass away?
>>743690183I'm not buying a Q3 either. I still have my Index, I'll just wait for something actually better to come along.
>>743684787Proof?
>>743684787Yes but im not buying it if its like over $1,500Saving up for this actually helped me because every time I wanted to do a big purchase like a gun or switch 2 I was like "but actually I want a steam vr goggle" and my savings account went from 5k to 12k because the goggles still ain't out
>>743689667They don't want to run the risk of Poodroid supremacy leading to the abandonment of PC as a platform for games and VR games, because that would mean needing to negotiate with Google and whichever company is shitting out the Android spin in question.They saw the damage done in the 2000s and 2010s by bad APIs like Xinput and Operating systems like Android and Windows 10 and are trying to get ahead of that by promoting Linux and good APIs like SDL3. >>743690134No Android.But I'm more interested in 2026 Pimax Linux support anyway.
>>743690293it didn't happen last weekonly sensible guess is today
>>743684787ZEEZ GOGGLES ZEY DO NOTHING!
>>743690352>PimaxI was interested in their Dream Air SE until I found out it's the same piece of shit as the BSB2 albeit cheaper.
the PSVR2 with the Pc adapter is 10x times better than this shitty headset lol
HALF LIFE 3 IN 10 MINUTES
It’s out, restart Steam.
>>743690860Holy shit, $1,200 for the base model??? lmfao
How much will it be?
>>743690341yeeei became a lot more sensible with money too recentlybut sometimes ya gotta splurge on some bullshit
>No lighthouse supportProbs not. I know lighthouse tech seems to be on the way out in general, but I'm not ready to give it up yet.If reviews come out saying that somehow the frame can see your hands moving without you looking at them, I might consider it.
>>743690650Yes, it's kind of looking like this specific kind of pancake lens + screen optic stack is pseudo-standardized from what I recall. So i guess you can just wait for Doublechink knockoffs that just slap this optic stack into the cheapest package they can put together, like the Chink knockoff 3D printer boom.
Just put myself in the queue for all of them. Really hope I don’t get the $2,100 model.
>>743685031>savings accountDo I look brown to you?
I won't buy yet another VR headset but I hope this brings a couple of new games out of the would be hype.
Will I be able to play whilst sitting down?My ceiling is pretty low and I can stand still with just 10 cm (I'm European) between my last hair and the ceiling (please say yes)
>>743691032>seeing your hands behind your backAren't the Quest 3 controllers like that?
>>743691032There's nothing stopping you from slapping a tracker onto it. There are also tools for synchronizing tracking ecosystems to get the lighthouses to work with other VR systems. Apparently that's how some people wanted to get their WMR headsets working.I don't think lighthouse tech is on its way out necessarily since there's still headsets that want to use it, but dedicated support in headsets might be.
>>743691034I also realize I'm in the minority here with wanting a tethered headset so that also makes its harder to find a suitable upgrade to my Index.>>743691032I'd be more concerned with the wireless bullshit because anyone who believe their 6 gorillion niggahertz wifi dongle or a router is going to be actually lossless in quality and input is a genuine retard.
>>743691032You cant even buy lighthouses anymore
It's live
HOLY $1,200 LMFAO
Ok i lied but next week i promise
>>743690134>try to play PCVR on my quest>lol we broke the Link again xdd t. zuccenburg>eat shit and but the games from the zuccstore btw we will brick your quest if you mod beatsaber t. zuccagain xdddThe only thing I've ever had buyers remorse over and I bought a Wii U
ITS UP
Page is being slammed but I saw $1,300 before it errored out.
>>743691335Never had a problem like that. What game is that happening in?
god damn it's even more expensive than the Machine, and I haven't even got my purchase email for the Machine yet... oh well, just put in reservation for all 4 options
1500 in canada LMAOOOO
Fuck you OP and fuck that fatfuck Gabe!
>>743691335What? Did everything with my Q2, installed all sorts of things, tested many ways to play games and this never happened
>>743691451my bad gangsame time next monday?
Page still isn't up for me...
>>743691507Restart Steam.
>>743691507oofthey might not sell them in your country then...
>>743691507lmao we got him guys he fell for it
>>743691426Not even a game, just starting up the Link to the PC fails to go through. Bootloops, random errors, something new every couple of months that only factory resetting the whole headset would fix. This was in the Quest 2 days, trashed the thing like two years ago because fuck dealing with that shit.
>>743691335I'm desperate enough I'm looking at used Vive Pro 2s but I have no idea if they're good or not because I wasn't following any HTC happenings at all over the years.
>Introducing Foveated StreamingMy eyes are weird and look almost closed when I'm just normally looking around. My family had said they thought I was asleep when I was totally awake before and in school even my teacher once thought I fell asleep in class. Am I just fucked for this feature?
>>743691549Oh fuck. I have to kill myself now.
>>743691607Presumably they tested this on chink eyes. You're probably fine.
>>743691607Use an AR filter, see if it registers your eye movement
>>743691569Never had that issue really. Only had it fail like twice over a few years and then it just worked after restarting steam on the pc. I got a used quest 3 on Facebook marketplace and haven't had a single problem connecting. If you want to try again I'd recommend getting a used one locally for way less
>>743691017Its definitely a process, one step at a time, steam frame is going to be worth nothing no matter what price it is, if I had bought a $1500 gun it would still be a $1500 gun or more laterLike you said though, we need our bullshit sometimes, I just pray its not a mistake buying this to use with my 4080 rather than just buy a better gpu and skip the vr for now, last one I had was the vive like 10 years ago
>>743691762That's a good idea actually.
>>743691150Most Quest 3 games have seated mode. I guess PCVR is more flexible
STEAMSISTERS??? WHAT THE HECK????
>>743684787
>>743691607Theres an entire race of people like this I think you'll be fine...
>>743692569Now you've got my attention
>>743691607>My eyes are weird and look almost closed when I'm just normally looking around. My family had said they thought I was asleep when I was totally awake before and in school even my teacher once thought I fell asleep in class. Am I just fucked for this feature?
>>743692569what makes the frame better for gooning than the quest 3? its the only thing I use my headset for
>>743690134Better controllers
>>743693223I would hazard a guess it's nothing because both have the same resolution.
>>743693223Zuck doesn’t watch you touch yourself
There's no reason to buy this if I already have an Index, right?
>>743684787>another heavy as fuck standalone mobile graphics headsetNo, that piece of shit can go right in the trash. It's crazy how there hasn't been a single competitor to the original rift in all this time, I could wear that thing for hours. I get tired of the quest 2 after 20 minutes.
>>743693557You don’t need to fuck around with those lighthouses anymore and Frame has modern pancake lenses so you can look around using your eyes instead of turning your head
>>743693557If the only thing you care about is better resolution then I guess you could buy it? But at that point a Quest 3 is a better option because it's cheaper. Otherwise no, it's wireless and doesn't support lighthouses.
>>743689075WHERE. IS. ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT???????????????
>>743693635I can wear my quest 2 for 24 hours it's just a you problem
>>743690183Basically.I do not want ZucKKK and his marry band of shit hoovering up data while I play video games. I'd rather Gay Ben have that.
>>743693856And I can jack off 4 times a day, that doesn't mean that other people should.
>>743693969They should though
You lied, manifesting conseqeunces, op. Your punishment is that VR will become the best form of gaming, but your left joystick, no matter what controller, will always develop joystick drift within 2 weeks of purchase when playing VR.
It is weird for being a premium and expensive they cheaped out on no color passthrough
>>743693838*me with steam frame shaped belly*GULPhaven't seen any headsets =)
What's with the retards trying to sell the technofacist surveillance device in this thread? Imagine getting gunned down by the ICE because the Quest 3 heard you wrongthinking in your own home lmao
>>743684787is it going to be cheaper or more expensive than the steam machine?
>>743695418BOM cost should be cheaper but only marginally so, might be more expensive due to software
>>743695418definitely cheaper
>>743694825>why doesnt this mid tier headset have the same specs as apple vision pro???
>>743687359I literally just got my steam machine incite to buy this morning!Our kids are gonna be so happy to have a nice living room PC! Should be here next week
there will be aftermarket full color modules
>>743695604Quest 3 will be half the cost and still has color passthrough The end of it is Valve doesn't want to subsidize the cost for the Machine nor Frame while Meta gobbles data to make up for the difference
So what stream or announcement is this exactly its certainly not on jewtube so it doesnt matter.And its certainly not on steam itself.
>>743695418I thought I was going to buy one, no matter the price. Now, I won't buy one unless it is under $1000 at this rate, and honestly, I probably won't buy one unless it's under $800.
>>743695836it's wild speculation from op
>>743695895yeah it sounds like he pulled it straight from his arse.
VR newb here, is €780 a good deal for meta quest 3 + elite strap + link cable? or should i get the 3S instead?
>>743695950LOL youre a fucking bitch if you buy that jew shit.
>>743695836valve doesnt announce release dates so people are just guessing when the frame is going to be released based on when valve usually releases things (tuesdays at 10am pst)
>>743695950Someone wants to be surveilled harder!Just bend right over and beg for it
>>743684787I'll get the Steam Machine when it's available, I don't like vr
>>743696036They announced that their shippin my kids new GABECUBE
>>743695981>>743696039Then tell me what I should get instead you homos
>>743696087Not something developed and sold by fucking facebook your goddamned moron.Good god man why would you want your privacy violated like that?
>>743696087Just wait for the steam frame like everyone else whos sane faggot
>>743695950>even considering putting yourself in the meta ecosystemHonestly, you should just go ahead and buy it. What do you have to lose?
>Half of the reason for VR is VRChat>All my friends stopped playing>Have to give your ID to Palantir to escape from retarded 10-year old prisonIt's probably going to end up being the perfect device I've always dreamed of, but a decade late to the party when it doesn't matter anymore.
>>743690183>>743693901There's Pico for that. Some Chinaman will watch you masturbate instead, better than Mary at Valve
>>743696259maybe for tranny groomersadults use it for flight and racing simsnothing else comes close
>>743695950Meta will randomly brick your headset with a (((firmware update))) and refuse to accept responsibility for it. You can open as many support tickets as you'd like but they're just going to ignore you or suggest some useless "fixes" in jeetspeak until you give up.And there is still no way to use one without a valid facebook account. You may think about creating an account under a fake name but you'll immediately get hit with a (((security notification))) and won't let you log in until you provide a valid ID.
>>743696259Don't worry the next "VR is here, this time for real!" fad is only 15 - 20 years away.
>>743695950Do not buy fresnel in the year of our lord 2026
>>743696353>And there is still no way to use one without a valid facebook account. You may think about creating an account under a fake name but you'll immediately get hit with a (((security notification))) and won't let you log in until you provide a validWutThis is false
>>743695604Pico 4 has color passthrough and that was 400 bucks like 3 years ago>>743695950Quest 3 and Pico 4/4 Ultra are your only real options, 3S is basically 2 but with 3's exclusive games (which you can play on Pico anyway because they were ported by some Russian guy)
>>743696353Facebook account hasn’t been a requirement in like 5 years
>>743696259Just be glad you experienced it, anon. VRC was kind of a bad place for me because of all the women looking for connection (I'm married) and because it's so easy to just drop into a party at any hour of the day/night when everyone else in the house is asleep and pound down copious amounts of booze. Booze and women looking for men is such a bad combo for married men. Especially when they are chasing you, you are not even giving them the time of day, further increasing their desires, they start posting pics and it turns out they are hot, and the booze makes you give the wrong signals.
>>743696487zuckerborg spying on your pp remains a requirement.
>>743696445>>743696487>i-it's not a facebook account it's a meta accountSame privacy nightmare, zuck is watching you masturbate to vr porn.
>>743696532>women>VRchatI'm not even gonna say it, you're setting me up
>>743696347A cool party trick that isn't worth the thousands upon thousands of dollars to put a simulator setup together for. Especially those dedicated racing sims chairs. I think I paid like $500 for my Index used, and I don't think I've put 500 hours into racing and flight sim games combined in my entire life.>>743696358I thought about playing Todd's games in VR but apparently neither Fallout 4 nor Skyrim are turn-key, you still have to mod the fucking shit out of them to get the full experience. I played a couple VR shooters, those were fun.
I wonder how quick the setup is. No lighthouses, no cable and a wi-fi dongle should in theory mean you could play it anywhere* (*that is inside).Which would make it ideal to bring along places.
>>743696630Tranxs womxn are women chud.
>>743696660Of all the games you thought wouldn't need extensive modding you picked Todd's games? Really?
>>743696660>the thousands upon thousands of dollars to put a simulator setup togetherIt costs 300 bucks to get a racing wheel with pedals, you clamp it to a 20 dollar desk and you have a "simulator setup", if you want to get fancy you spend 40 bucks to get a shifter.
>>743696957I played all of them totally vanilla.
>>743696630Nah man, they are there. If you are single and looking for a novel experience, I 100% recommend you go find some women in pc-only worlds and find a 21-29 year old chick to be friends with. If you can talk to women without scaring them away and you aren't a disgusting beast, you could 100% hookup. They are there, and 90% of the guys there are absolute fucking chump simps. I often found them in game worlds or drinking worlds. Unfortunately, there's a fair amount of married women trying to fuck around too.Just try not to get too carried away with drinking and vrc, because it's easy to turn it into a habit.
what is babby's first vr headset?i just want one for cheap to finally try the games
>>743696969Or get a $200 racing wheel with good force feedback and make your own pedals with free parts from the car dump, $3 in rotary encoders and a $10 MCU.
>Make a VRChat device after VRChat was nuked by an ID requirementWho is this for? Simdads already have headsets, cattle will just buy the quest, and gooners have all left.
>>743697056Did you cheat on your wife?
WHERE IS IT GABEWHERE IS IT
>>743697250People who want a VR GNU/Linux desktop
>>743697140Quest 2
>>743697323All 12 of you? I bet half of you already have a headset
>>743697056What do you mean fuck around, you're in a game. Everyone is just LARPing, including you right now
>>743697275No, I legitimately just went to treat it like going to a bar without having to drive. However, the women in that game could fucking smell it or some shit because they would always gravitate towards me, and being drunk usually, I would chat with them. I think it was just the fact that they felt comfortable since I wasn't actively pursuing anything, but then would start catching attraction after having a chat and trying to be friends, trying to hang out when I would show up, etc. I don't play anymore because it was becoming too much of a hassle/danger while drunk.
>>743697140cheapest but also most ass (the lenses are bad)Quest 2, Quest 3Sless cheap but with better lensesPico4, Pico4 Ultra, Quest 3
>>743697651>you couldn't possibly meet a hot woman from playing together in a video gameI forgot I was on 4chan, sorry. For real though, vrc is pretty much a virtual social media platform where socializing is the primary purpose so it has every single kind of person you can think of, including attractive single women that are into vr/gaming. And I've heard a few trying to find legit bf's to meet up with IRL and knew one who did that and actually moved in with the guy. One of you lads could benefit from it, but not me. Trying to hook you lads up with some primo knowledge.
>>743697250Resonite
>>7436959503s just werks, only get 3 if you really need it's features (games will run exactly the same on both)
>>743696609Eh, every single device I own is spying on me
>>743684787I've lost all the Steam lotteries so farThey don't make enough units of their shit manThe problem is I REALLY WANT A STEAM FRAMEI don't care about the machine or the controllerFUCK I hope the price is like $2000 just so I have a higher chance of getting a unit
>>743697993lol
>>743698545I feel you anon. I was hoping with the steam machine backlash I'd move up the wait list, but I guess there's too many of us non poorfag consoomers. At least I got the controller, you're likely to get one soonish.
>>743696969>clamp it to a desk>brake>chair goes backwards
>>743684787>Look up wtf is going on cause I have a mild interest in the steam frame ..>Estimates from retailers suggest $899 - $1.2k for the base 256GB model given the RAM shortage Actually... That isn't bad for what I was expecting depending on how their FEX translation layer runs.>Specs would make it able to run most PC games at Mobile gaming graphics which would be whatever.>It can stream from PC for high end graphics snobs >Can be an alternative to a gaming PC I mean.... If this is what Steam Deck was for Proton layer I am curious to see how it does.>OP IS A FAGGOT FOR LYING ABOUT PRICE AND WAIT-LIST HAPPENING THOUGH.
I wishlisted this because of a general curiosity in trying VR, but given how expensive the machine is I doubt that this will be at a price I'm willing to swallow. Or that it'll even be available for purchase at whatever price they set.
>>743699081Have you tried being fatter so the chair doesn't move?
>>743684787>4 hours agoSteam Frame preorders in August.
>>743698949I wish they had gotten their act together sooner. If they had released all their shit 1 year ago it would have been perfect, there would have been plenty of hardware available for them to source
>>743696259Didn't VRC go full jew and and cash shop shit?
>>743698545>i hope this piece of shit is way more expensive than it should be so i can be a good little paypiggyWhat is this mental illness called?
>>743696259>>743699785VRChat is old news, every autists moved on to Resonite
>>743700354bro I have money I don't give a fuck how much it costs, I just want to get a fucking unit. Okay, maybe if it was $100k I'd think twice but I care way way way more about being able to have a unit than I care about what it costs
>>743700354>What is this mental illness called?Having plenty of money such that the price of consumer electronics is orders of magnitude below the level where it could possibly matter to you
>>743700354uh oh poorpiggy detecteddont worry you can have my hand-me-down slop in a few years on ebay
>>743684904yeah, this.Plus I wanna get a switch 2 first... (splatoon raiders)I'll just have to make do with my quest 2 for awhile longer.
>>743700475>unironically says bro>is a retarded consumerPottery.>inb4 you poorNigger I can order the Pimax Dream Air right now, doesn't mean I will because I have the self restraint required to understand it's an overpriced piece of shit.>>743700542>>743700575Couldn't even inb4 before all the good goys got their panties in twist. Pathetic.
>>743700626Why would it matter to me whether the Frame is $1000 or $2000 or $10000I feel like the only person who would give a shit about that is someone for whom money is so scarce that it would make a difference to their lifestyle
>>743684787i don't really see the point. i don't even have space for my current headset and i already spent a lot of money on other shit. plus day 1 buying is kinda... yeah
>>743697140>babby's first vr headset?PSVR2 or old windows mixed reality from HP or Lenovo
>>743692569I only ever fap to 2d girlsWhat's the appeal?
I kinda hope they changed gears and are gonna release a non-standalone version.I really don't want to pay stupid ram prices for a headset I'm gonna exclusively use for PCVR
>>743703551It can’t be wireless without all that standalone stuff
>>743684904Same here, bud.
>>743690134foveated rendering
Who even cares about these headsets anymore when glasses are right around the corner?
>>743707408
>>743707408>spyware glasses from metano thanks
>>743702894I haven't been impressed with VR.Sure, metaquest has some shit but they force you to use fagbook and collect biometric data from you.At least with steam there is finally a wireless, open source head set that isn't harvesting your biometric data to make stock price go up
>>743707408>posting the edit
>>743707574You're being tracked anyway. 99% of people that say this have a google account, chatgpt, or whatsapp and then say this without irony.
Where is it...?
Quest 2 dust collector owner, should I buy the steam frame?
>>743707617>Valve doesn't track youlolThey are so obsessed with user data that they have several Psychiatrists working for them, they check player position, time spent on a location, input, graphics config and anything else they can get from you to continue selling you stuff
>>743707782>same resolution with shittier tracking for 1200what for?
>>743707796you don't understand... with gabe... it's different!
>>743707820I very much doubt it has shittier tracking considering a quest 2, you can't even have your hands leave your peripherals without them getting stuck.
>>743708327you are in for a surprise then
>>743684787maybe 27th.......I fucking need it
>no Valve launch game with Steam MachineI have no hopes of a surprise drop with the Frame beyond some tech demo thing like they did when Knuckles came out.
>>743691156Quest Pro controllers (which can be used on a Quest 2/3 iirc) could, but it came at the cost of shit battery life and its own slew of problems since you now have controllers with a Snapdragon processor/ram/etc doing its own SLAM tracking and then having to synchronize that with the headset's own relative position.
>>743708704I guess they'll use Alyx as a demo, gosh I'm so envious of everyone that will be able to play it standalone.
>>743703458gaussian splat
>>743708824why? it's a shit game
>>743697993If this was five years ago, you would have been laughed out of thread with faggotry this hard. Internet relationships and sex are lame and always fake. It may have worked 20 years ago in MMO's because digital interaction was still novel at the time, but it sure is shit aint novel now. I don't trust anyone online anymore.
>>743685031Do you know how hard it actually is to turn gold into cash? It's not exactly convenient or one to one.Luckily I keep 10k liquid in my checkings at all times in case of emergency and this is an emergency.>>743687359If it shitted n flopped then how come I'm still on the fucking waitlist despite living in the US.
>>743707408Gaben is the only jew (crypto) I trust.
>>743708824Steam Frame wouldn't be able to run Alyx unless they vastly simplified the environments/models.
>>743708917No?It's fun, the graphics are gorgeous, also Desktop Saints & Sinners but standalone, ah you guys have fun for me.
>>743709290What's fun about it?
>>743709261Why not? The deck can "run" it on VR and that is with all the background stuff for streaming, this will be native so it will be lighter.
So, when is the price for this shit really going to be announced?
>>743709356Deck ran it at 30fps interpolated to 60fps. For a standalone headset you want nothing less than 72hz natively, and even then my preferred minimum is native 80hz output to lessen the visible judder.
>>743709316Shooting, "scavenging" feels satisfying, first time someone used "managing your "body" in a 3D space" as a gameplay feature
>>743703458
>>743707782If you have a computer that can do 4k gaming then yeah. There's a ton of mods for PC games. Steam Frame is comfort focused so it's the opposite of the Quest 2 that feels like you have a brick hanging off your face.
I want to play TTT in Gmod or CSGO in VR.
>>743690373Foolish.
>>743709728The funny thing is that the Frame can't do this, cause it can only do passthrough in black and white in unknown quality/resolution.>b-but the front add-on!!!Literally nobody has made anything of worth for the Index's front add-on slot and the same will be true for the Frame.
>>743709565>ShootingWhat's fun about shooting braindead bots?>"scavenging" feels satisfyingWhat's satisfying about dumpster diving for resources which you don't need, but which also degenerates the only part of the game which can be considered fun (for the sake of the argument) by making it possible to automate reloading, trivialize aim with red dot etc?Or maybe you found the obnoxious countlessly repeating puzzles for drooling retards fun? >first time someone used "managing your "body" in a 3D space" as a gameplay featureHuh? You have no body in alyx, you are floating hands. Did you even play the game?
>>743709798That's exactly what I was thinking, I got my 4k rig going 3 months ago, and was thinking I could do some heavy gaming on it since it's wireless. Sucks that it's going to way more expensive than anticipated, but I got a budget that can handle it.
>>743709950But why the fuck would I want that.Why the fuck would I want to see the robot arm I'm fucking in my filthy room? Why would I want to be among the iridescent alien coral forests on the planet Booblion 5 getting jerked off by an 8 foot Amazonian succubus' prehensile tail under in the soft glow of the twin suns reflected off the planet's rings at dusk?
>>743709950>Literally nobody has made anything of worth for the Index's front add-on slot and the same will be true for the Framethis time.... it's going to be different. trust the plan
I heard they made a big update for steamVRbut did they add (real) steam input to it yet? I don't want to play waggle games. I want to use a real controller
>>743710427You do you. I'm just saying that for the small amount of people who do want passthrough.
The price will be $1500+
>>743707408puckslop
>>743710846frame has a puck, you just wear it on your head
>>743709728>dedicated masturbation machineholy fucking shit dude
So where is it? Did Gaben eat it?
>>743709950>The funny thing is that the Frame can't do this, cause it can only do passthrough in black and white in unknown quality/resolution.wrong, its been widely known that Valve plans to release full color camera modules as an upgrade after the fact.
>>743711370>that Valve plansReally, bro? That changes everything.
>>743684787I was at work so I wasn't here to say this post was full retardDesktop view got working at all on linux with wayland just a few days ago. The software isn't done. They'll never let anyone review these if you can't use desktop on either the frame or steam machine.There's no sign review units are out, everyone actively denies having one instead of silenceFCC hasn't received all the documents they need to give approvalThere's some train game sale going on steam right nowEven the 27th is optimistic. August 3rd is sane until we are on the 27th and there's no sign of this thing then August 10th will be the new safe bet. It's always 2 weeks away
>>743695418Valve said it was going to cost less then the Index, BUT that was before all the RAM fuckery started so who knows now
>>743691032Lighthouse retards every timeYou can use the index controllers with anything
>>743693223IR illuminators and presumably a 3dof mode or it a least won't shit itself when tracking is blocked
>>743711650>FCC hasn't received all the documents they need to give approvalnothing has been submitted to the FCC you tard, valve hasn't applied yet
>>743693557Everything is an upgrade over index except tracking occlusion and maybe haptics, the index had better haptics than shitty ERM motors eight?
>>743695950no not for meta bullshit.half that, maybe.
>>743709728God is Real
>>743693635Both the CV1 and Rift S are heavier than frame retard, and you have the weight of the cable, and frame's weight is split in half and perfectly balanced instead of all up front
>>743695418I think it was more expensive before the ram crisis and it will be less expensive after. The memory and storage on it has gotten more expensive but not at the rate of what's in the steam machine. Don't expect a huge difference though. Like $950-$1000 instead of $1050
>>743695604$300 3S has color passthrough and time of flight. This comparison will never not be valid, deal with it.
>>743712181>The memoryaren't they both on lpddr?
>>743695950You need to include the price of a router if you don't have one you can dedicate for VR. A link cable sucks unless all you do is vehicle sim.
>>743696358VR is here it will just always be unevenly distributed and niche until nintendo does it.
>>743712267deck is on lp, box is ddr5(16gb)+gddr6(8gb)
>>743712424the only reason is that nintendo knows how to make contentnot happening any time soon though, maybe in 20 years
>>743696660I was thinking of buying simming hardware before I played vtol and I was surprised VR motion controls are just enough for combat flightsim. It's not podracing. Maybe a cheap chair and food pedals would be worth it though.
>>743697140If you have a decent PC, used quest 2, try to find one with a headstrap. You still need to buy a dedicated router if you don't have one.If you don't have a decent PC. Quest 3S. But without a PC I can't say it's worth it. You can play forefront though
>>743709963>dumpster divingYou can pull shit from afar>no bodyEugh, yes that, the Jeff chapter makes you manage "your body"
>>743691607Hello, Shiga Prefectural Police? I've found the Fox Eyed Man.
>>743712835Is something wrong with your head?
>>743707408I think these glasses will disappoint despite great contrast and resolution. Expect $2000 and shit FOV. I don't even know what the controller situation is going to be. Meta puffin might use quest 3 controllers because they will probably promote it as a controllerless device. Regardless steam frame controllers will be the only good controllers for a while. I'm really tired of no menu button in PCVR. I'm really tired of no left and right bumper. I'm tried of no dpad and not enough face buttons that make flat to VR mods have retarded bindings. Frame also has dual stage triggers and grips. VR developers keep putting retarded functions on the easy to press grip buttons. We need the squeeze back like on index.
is this full body compatible?
>>743707782depends on why you aren't playing it
>>743712962I guess...but how is that related to this
>>743709950A third party is supposed to be making a color passthrough. Because monkey's paw it will be overpriced though
>>743711919When you split hairs you can keep both halves
>>743684787The only good thing about this will be ARM support for steamos so that all chinkhelds will become steam decks
>>743713419unilikely to happen, gaben is jewing with the drivers
pew pew
>>743713615do you want it?
ratatatata
>>743713113Extremely uncomfortable for sitting down if not just fully reclining, not a very seemless pcvr or steam vr experience, and it's basically like clamping a brick to my face.
>>743713782SteamVR slowly gets updates from valve, how long has it been since you used it? Or you can try virtual desktop. Usually the seems and hiccups for me are on the quest side that valve can't fix.Frame seems to be perfectly comfortable from influencers/VR press giving impressions, I don't trust all of them but it's unanimous and I've heard criticism for the frame from the same people. Namely quest 3 quality displays.
>>743713782>and it's basically like clamping a brick to my faceDo you have a counterweight? I have a 20k powerbank strapped to the back with velcro and it's not that bad.
>>743713782>Clamping a brick to my faceIt's about 300g anon, calm down mate
>>743714059not that anon but even though counterweight batteries help they are generally not headrest friendly, and even though it's not slumping on the face as much or yanking my neck down, I can still feel the 800 grams of trash on my head. If you don't want to use a quest VR headset I'm not sure spending $50 dollars on it for a battery headstrap is going to work and be worth it.
>>743714130nta, but q2 visor alone, no faceplate, is 390g
>>743713313I know that Bradley guy saw some lines of code in a SteamVR Beta update and there was some sort of contract found, but I'll believe it when I see it. But yeah, if it does exist, I'm expecting ~$200 for it.
>>743714130quest 2 is about 500 grams mate
I'm waiting on the Pico Swan or whateverLess weight on my head is worth it for my Beat Saber machine.
>Halo 3 in VR on github, youtube video is almost an hour of jank but 6dof works>description is that it was entirely coded by AI and the guy says he basically just kept prompting it and kept testing itjesus christ that's impressive but it will also be a long time before its not vibe slop
>>743714341it's >less weight>actually working tracking>color passthrough>face tracking>high res uOLED instead of Q2-tier LCD trash>modern chip on new techprocess instead of 4 year old garbage from the dumpsteryou have to be retarded to buy frameif you want cheap shit first headset, you buy quest for half the priceif you already a vr user, there is no point in paying insane prices for outdated tech which misses basic functionality
What should I upgrade to from my Rift S bros?
>>743714664So I should buy this swan that is 2x the price of the frame?
>>743690183>>743693901>boot up quest>create meta account>connect to pc>enjoy vr gameswow the horrors, zuckerberg is gonna knock my door at any second now>>743693901
>>743714965yeah. and for that money you get an actual modern hmdor pay half and get basically the same thing, but with actually working trackingand it's not going to be 2x, frame is going to $1100 + scalper tax because they are going to produce 5 and a half headsets total
>>743715076>>create meta accountyou don't even need to do that actuallythere are ways to activate it completely offline and also root it at the same time
>>743714223Fair enough yeah.I box for an hour every day in my quest 3 and don't mind the weight, but my friends complain if they try it, I guess you get used to it
>>743690183The downsides of being in the metaverse are exaggerated. It was a shite deal about 4 years ago, and it was pretty bad when they were pushing horizon as the focal point, but now that they cut that out and fired lots of people, it's just a solid headset now.I deactivated my Facebook a while back, not even sure you need it anymore.But to be clear that period where you definitely needed a FB account and if you made one just for VR it would brick you for trying to circumvent it, that was utter bullshit and I don't blame anyone who noped out at that point permanently
>>743715221what's even the point of rooting it? it can already sideload and pirate any games without restrictions
>>743715276User experience with weight is weird. If I want to go on a killing spree in blade and sorcery the weight doesn't matter because I'm interesting in physical activity. If I just want to chill thats when I notice the headset the most.
>>743715656disabling the system bloat created by zuccjeets which is constantly running in the background and will eventually soft brick your headset if you use the headset with blocked internet access (ask me how i know)
>>743712090The CV1 had a rigid strap that evenly distributed the weight of the headset and the actual display unit didn't weight much at all.The frame is using the same elastic band bullshit as the quest which does not support the torque from the headset sticking off of your face, it doesn't matter if the weight is split in half, what you'll get is pressure on your cheekbones with a weird tugging feeling from the top strap. PCVR needs to go back to rigid halo headbands.>>743714223It's not about the weight, it's that it has no support so it constantly twists down and applies pressure to your cheekbones.
>>743716140>needs to go back to rigid halo headbands.>t. knower
>>743714965I really don't see how Frame is competing with even the Pico4. Let alone the rumored Swan.
>>743709049Whatever dude. I hope some other anon scores with a hot chick based on the info I gave. They are there and thirsty if they can detect even a hint of masculinity and you having your shit together. They are usually from well off backgrounds too since vr is more of a luxury curiosity.
>>743716140There is nothing more effective or comfortable than a top strap, especially as weight goes up. Halos are shit unless the headset is so light that it doesn't matter if its a halo or not. With a top strap you don't need hardly any pressure on the face, just enough for stiction. Without a top strap rigid could be better but it does add some weight. I'm sure there will be numerous $50 ones on amazon.>It's not about the weightYes it is
>>743717854>since vr is more of a luxury curiosity.Nigger, are how daft are you? You can use VRchar on a phone, you think the normal faggots that infest that mentally ill shit hole use lighthouse headsets? No, they use the bottom of the barrel meta headsets that can't even render most avatars correctly. I've used VRchat for a few months and they are all literally the exact same. No one here is impressed you can catch E-Pussy dude, especially on 4cuck. Buy hey, you can catch them pretty well I see, makes sense, you are just as much as a normal faggot as they are.
>>743718151nta but i didn't read this schizo babble the first time you posted it and i'm not going to read it right nowhalo straps are the best, simply because>better fov>better comfort thanks to the unrestricted airflowonly retards disagree
>>743691335WiiU was good tho. You GENUINELY WILLINGLY buying Facebook slop is your own fucking problem my dude.
>>743718316>muh torque>oh he knows what those words mean and I don't, better go back to low effortMost people can't black out a room, you only benefit from the easy maxed FOV at night. I tried FOV maxing and my eyelashes hit the lens before I got any benefit over face gasketIf you don't have working air conditioning you should definitely try a halo then return it and get air conditioning
>>743718632>Most people can't black out a roomthose are not peopleanyway, nobody cares about your "WORDS WORDS WORDS" copeoculusface sucks, sweat sucks, fov is worsethis is the objective truth
The only thing I would want to play is:Half Life AlyxLA Noire VRWolfenstein CyberpilotAnd Virtamate gooning.
>>743712082Of course he is, we created him
waiting to see how real games play on it and normal person controller supportnot interested in shooting gallery, waggleslop, prison gay grooming
>>743718763Ok when its common knowledge that it's one of the most comfortable headsets, you'll still have your stubbornness which is heavier than any headset on the market.
I mean is it gonna be BETTER than a quest 3? Will it run longer? Will the strap be better out of the box? Will their compatibility layer actually make regular games VR supporting, or is it just a really REALLY expensive pair of XR glasses?I'm interested to see what people do with it but since everything is just gonna be on linux I'll just... use my quest 3 to reap the benefits, lmao.
>>743719021bigshit is just shit comfort, mostly thanks to the meme facial interface which traps the heat which radiates from an extremely hot headset
>>743719091Yes but not so much in display + optical stack which is basically the most important paper specI expect battery life to suckYou will want to pay extra for the top strap and ignore shills saying its fine without oneThere will be no automatic VRifying of games, it looks like that rumor of automatic stereo 3D was bullshit. But VR mods are increasingly common.They aren't XR glasses. Wait for meta puffin, pico swan, or the next apple vision
>>743719179Ironically its the perfect candidate for a halo headstrap but I don't even know if they put it out. I'm tired of checking.
>>743719291>meta puffinis that q4?
>>743718196>what are pc only worlds and curated serversLet me see if I can convey this in a story your people would understand.>Daquarius was da kang>He be knowin how ta have snacks and smoke all da tyme>one time he pack a hole ass phillie with that sticky shit, we talkin the whole thang up in that muhfucka>we hit up a block party with fine ass shawties and dem bois>Daquarius a kang and shared dat shit with all the homies n bitches>Big Smoke with his fat ass pull up askin "man what yall bustas smokin on">Big Smoke seen Daquarius' fully packed phillie and said "Man, these bustas gettin' high off a cigar" and he walk away>Me n the homies all look around each otha than bust out laffin>Daquarius woulda smoked him out, nah mean?>Big Smoke end up drankin n pissin himself while we all turnin up>Cu'had his dick suced if he stay in the circleDoes it make sense now?
>>743719291Well the entire thing was advertised with "Play all your games on the VR headset" so if it isn't applying some sort of wrapper like UEVR to them, it's just a fancy pair of XR glasses with a regular ass VR headset, for what will likely be 1.5x if not double price.I really don't see the value in it. Certainly not to start. And with how poorly my steam controller performs (no xinput in fucking 2026) and how shit the steam machines have been (rrod-ing lmao) I'm significantly more wary of supporting valve which is a huge fucking shame.
I have $1.2K set aside for this thing and that better fucking be enough. I have not been willing to starve myself just to get my hands on it.
>>743718151>With a top strap you don't need hardly any pressure on the face, just enough for stictionWith my halo headset I have completely taken off the facial gasket and have nothing touching my face. It basically hovers in front of my eyes. Slipping isn't a problem either because it has a honeycomb rubber pattern on the back that sticks to my head even if I don't tighten it.
I just want to know the price, I promised my boyfriend I'd buy him one and want to know how much it'll hurt.
>>743719483with the price of the steam machine, and even the increase to the deck, I would be very shocked if it comes in under 1k. I'm realistically expecting 1.2k minimum, probably 1.5k for a model with fuller storage.
>>743719386No its microoled glasses with a compute puck. I think meta said they will be showing something on both puffin and Q4 for their September event, but Q4 is supposed to be further out than puffin, like 2028
>>743719537>It basically hovers in front of my eyes.this is basically THE way to wear the headset, if you are not a retarded newfag
>>743719537I can't do this, because every movement the thing moves around. Not sure how people rock without a facial interface. For me I like it touching my forehead and open on the bottom. I want to be able to look down and see the floor.
>>743719573wasn't it phoenix?
>>743719573September is the meta connect event, so that would be Q3. But yes they mentioned they will be showing something off. I doubt they will give many details. Afterall most of their prototypes had to be abandoned because Valve made eye tracking standard.
Is it worth it for porn at this point?I have a handy but I mostly just use it for video scripts
>>743719537>With my halo headset I have completely taken off the facial gasket and have nothing touching my face. It basically hovers in front of my eyes.This is good and bad. You are able to ignore the headset unless you have lightbleed. But the real problem is headsets with normal weights have inertia and wiggle when you turn your head. It's not just melee fighting where this is a problem either. Vehicle simming can get your head turning fast.>Slipping isn't a problem either because it has a honeycomb rubber pattern on the back that sticks to my head even if I don't tighten it.I've been there done that. It sticks to my hair, but then my hair slips so it's pointless. You are completely dependent on balance to make it work so you'll be buying the battery halo straps. This isn't a flaw though because you need a counterweight and extra battery life anyway. I'm just saying the rubber is a meme unless you have really short hair in the back, like buzzed. You could probably switch back to pleather so dust won't stick to it.
>>743719671Yeah I actually don't know the difference between puffin and phoenix. I can't remember if it was a name change or two different headsets.
>>743719850>Is it worth it for porn at this point?I don't think so, because it is hard to jack off while wearing a headset and using controllers. That said it has its sexy moments. Like in Blade and Sorcery when you capture a female warrior and hold her down, slap her ass. Feels good man!
>>743719957Phoenix is the Quest 4, thought some call it the Quest Pro 2. Puffin is more like widefield mixed reality glasses. Not the size of normal glasses. Seems more like hololens.
>>743719850You're better off finding a gf and banging. I will say, the weird gf experience 360 3d irl vr videos are kinda weird and will fuck you up mentally if you are in a bad spot, but are interesting from a technical standpoint (plus the lady is hot as fuck). It's not porn, but feels like it was made for lonely dudes.COGNITO HAZARD ALERTThese are the ones. Some real nightmare fuel after your brain processes this shit, and a taste of manmade nightmares beyond your wildest dreams coming in the future:https://deovr.com/playlists/date-experience-with-a-girlfriend-22473
>>743719895>But the real problemnta, but it's not really a problem, even if the headset "wobbles" a bit on high intensity movementthe picture inside is still stable and correct>>743719957phoenix is still used internallymy first thought when you said puffin was q4, but i don't remember all the codenames that well>>743720047huh?
>>743719975Frame has the hardware for handtracking but valve won't hire a computer vision expert for it because they are dumbIt's so good for user experience and just removing jank from VR when you drop your controller to answer your phone
>>743713615>>743713670how the fuck you play perfect dark in vr
>>743720047>Puffin is more like widefield mixed reality glasses. Not the size of normal glasses. Seems more like hololens.Yeah that is not going to happen. This is the monkeys paw timeline
>>743720102Yeah it's not disorienting, it's just a kinesthetic comfort thing. I like a headset feeling secure. Something wiggling and creaking in front of my face is way more distracting than something consistently touching my face.
>>743720102>huh?Not sure what confuses you. I answered the question. >>743720154There is software now to convert 2D games to VR.
>All this talk about new vr headsets when there no games coming out on the platform that isn't already 5+ years oldVRchat is not an excuse, its full of autistic anti-social faggots. And not in the good way.What is the reason to even get a new headset? The only good porn games for it are modded skyrim, Anthro Heat and Vrit-a-mate.No one else does anything in the VR niche. VRchat fucking sucks if you older than 25. But in reality, it always sucked.
>>743720154https://github.com/Alex-LeTux/perfect_dark_VRThey are just now fixing warping issues, you might want to wait for 1.4 that could be out in a couple of days. Runs PCVR and standalone on quest
>>743720047>Phoenix is the Quest 4This conflicts with my understanding hard. What are you basing this on?Afaik, Q4 was canceled until very recenty, it was supposed to AIO headset, no puck, similar to the current quests with everything in the visor>>743720250>ai slopoh, fuck offI thought you are someone with a brain. Nevermind.
>>743720119Even if you can do handtracking, many games you still need a controller. At least the porn games I've tried.
>>743720315>I thought you are someone with a brain. Nevermind.I didn't get my answer from AI. I follow VR closely, which is how I knew. AI just confirmed what I said.
>>743720315>ai slopQuit being a furry, the source is uploadVR it's right there. AI works as a summary machine
>>743720250>>743720314What a time to be alive. VR perfect dark.
>>743720394Only retards unironically post LLM slop. Enough to discard the "opinion" instantly. >>743720391>AI just confirmed what I said.lol
>>743720451https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHyNbbg9PsE
>>743720451No one cares what you discard. If you didn't believe him he should've just called you a furry and provided nothing
>>743720484yeah, you are not helping your case here
>>743720530Hey you just want to fuck around that's fine.
>>743720551there is no point arguing with LLM, they don't "know" any betteryou are just a meat proxy, not worth the time
>>743720530It's VR. It's going to be a guy with cat ears, cuck glasses, a covid mask, or all 3
>>743720635I usually prefer some Naysy tits!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI8RL2RWvFo
>>743720625>my first thought when you said puffin was q4, but i don't remember all the codenames that wellThis is what a human "knowing" looks like
>>743720635thumbnail tells you who the target audience is, i'm not interested in trash he repeats without undertandingi have standards for fuck sake>>743720697ask the "AI" to break it down for you in a tiktok video format if you think anything in that quote implied "knowing"at least when people are unsure they can tell you that, not just confidently lie while making shit up
>>743720836What do you want, a wikipedia article with references? These are rumors. It is the nature of the game.
>>743720252Pavlov is always good fun, feels like playing airsoft.I mostly play conversion mods. It's pretty cool going through my backlog of PC games and discovering one has a VR version for it.
>>743720974the original source of the rumori'm not interested in playing the broken telephone
>>743719537Cute anon
>>743721112There are multiple sources, which that video summarizes with the Phoenix.
>>743721238>summarizes akareading the slop llm shit out
>>743721320Yeah right, you aren't going anywhere. If you want to find the stuff yourself start with the commercial showing off the puck on the Snapdragon Elite. Meta having already said a puck design was going to be used for Puffin. Doesn't take a youtuber to make a connection when it is so obvious.
And of course when I go look it up myself in the usual places it turns out the LLMsloper are just being retarded and making shit up again.
>>743721509Kill yourself, braindead retard.I follow VR closely, my ass.
>>743721585That's old info when there was less info about Phoenix. Luma is good a data mining all the Meta software for info.
>>743721732There is no more info, you are making shit up.
>>743720836>at least when people are unsure they can tell you that, not just confidently lie while making shit upYou typed this and pressed post, holy shit lmao
>>743722284What are you even babbling about, meat proxy?
>>743719850depends on what you are into, I guess...
>>743723068why the horizontal borders?
>>743720252>What is the reason to even get a new headset?To watch VR JAV without the binocular effect.
>>743723068I just want to fall in love with anime girls.
>>743723068that is not raytracing
>>743723287the what?
>>743723958The FOV being too low which makes you notice the black edges of the lens.
if i buy this, can i look at anthropomorphic women stripping?
>>743724272oh yeahIf you have pancake lenses you can push the lenses as close together as they will go then set your correct IPD in the video player
>>743724272>>743724956oh sorry I thought you meant bad binocular overlap, which gets worse when you look at subjects up close. If you want wider FOV but worse overlap you would do the opposite and widen the lenses
>>743696259In a perfect world, the people who made VRChat content would have migrated to V-Sekai.
>>743724364Sure why not
>>743684787>14 hours agoIt's ogre
>>743719658you could try the meta open gasketi like itget almost all the benefits of taking the gasket off, but you get some extra stabilityit has little springs in it too and a slightly different material so it's a lot more comfy than the default meta one that came with the headset
>>7437203141.4 is out now btw
>>743723117I guess it's just part of the stage design.https://litter.catbox.moe/zv5gbu.mp4
>>743719957any game made in UE4/UE5, and RE Engine should run in VR, and most of them already come with ton of nude mods and camera hacks, so...
>Slightly better if not worse than Quest 3 in many ways 3 years later for $500 dollars moreWho is buying this trash?
>>743710941This is tame, the real gooners beat their meat to fast paced HMVs/PMVs while shocking their cocks with repurposed estim machines driven by custom waveform tracks. Some even have diy buttplugs that can tell if you're getting close to cumming and slow down/stop. (apparently your butt clenches as you get close and you can measure the clench)I fell down the rabbit hole and made myself the SR6. (Didn't get into the weirder shit like estim.) Waste of time mostly, it's too cumbersome to set up if you're not going to leave it mounted to your desk like a fucking weirdo, it's too loud and a lot of the free content is shitty hmvs/pmvs, almost everyone tries to charge for putting a script out for porn videos. It works pretty good for stuff like that 3D "game" that I can't remember the name of where you do poses and animations. I think there's also a plugin for unity or unreal that ties the motion to a bone in the scene.
>>743720252DAGASI my beloved
>>743709091Why not just have a credit card with a 10k limit?
>>743730306Nta but why not have both?
So where is it?
>>743730380A hysa alone would probably get you a couple hundred bucks in a year. Or put it into riskier stocks.You use the credit card for the emergency then pay it off after withdrawing from whatever safe investment option you use. I can't think of a reason to keep all 10k in a checking account. Can't even withdraw it all without getting flagged by anti money laundering systems
So if halo headstraps like bobovr are supposed to be shit, what should I have instead for melee fightan
>>743727778I'm not that deep into it either but i got the handy faptap is pretty nicebut i do hate that everyone has a patreon for their funscripts
>>743684787After the steam machine I have zero confidence in this being priced well at all. A used quest 3 will end up being the better deal.
>>743731154>facejew shillkill yourself, you vile kike parasite
>>743731221I don't have a quest 3, but I simply state facts. Sort of like how the $899 steam deck is a hilarious waste of money compared to a used $399 rog ally z1e with battery mod.
>>743727778>Some even have diy buttplugs that can tell if you're getting close to cumming and slow down/stop. (apparently your butt clenches as you get close and you can measure the clench)And here I thought gooners couldn't get any gayer
>>743720252>What is the reason to even get a new headset?VaM is enough reason to upgrade for me but there just isn't anything worthwhile to upgrade to.
>>743731676is this a safe place to say that I'm too stupid for VAM?
>>743731789You're gonna get shit on regardless. It's not the easiest "game" to get the hang of but if you persevere then you should figure it out eventually. Alternatively just use complete pre-made scenes exclusively.
ok how exactly would I play my VR games I acquired on f95 on the framejust adding them to steam and then running it with proton?
>>743720095people always hype these up to be super dangerous but I never believe it.same thing with those hypnosis tracks that people said would fuck up your mind a decade ago.
>>743684787yea bro cant wait to play some more games about picking shit up in a room sized area
>>743732231>people always hype these up to be super dangerous but I never believe it.i still see remnants of my tulpa gf in reflections
>>743732231the bambi stuff isn't good for you bro
saw this news todayseems like waggleslop is finally over thank godhope to play some real games in VRhttps://www.theshortcut.com/p/steam-frame-release-is-being-held-up-by-valve-as-its-still-finishing-gamepad-mode
>>743684787I bought index and I used like twice, never again
>>743734545can I buy it off you anon
>>743734560what shithole are you from
>>743697140search for used index on ebay now
>>743684787WHERE IS IT
I could buy a used full valve index set for 450€ is that worth it?
>>743735016VR headset isnt worth it at all
>valve releases two whole devices to play games>makes 0 games to promote the hardware>uses this to promote the hardware
>>743735125how will steamdrones defend this one
>>743734623Califurnia
>>743735196fuck off then, you and your faggot state
>>743735165their copes are:>what about this other company who had trannies?>why do you care? just let them get away with it>I don't like that but they offer half life for $1 so I can forgive them
>>743735016get a psvr2 when it's on sale
>>743735165>>743735274i don't look like that so yes i don't care if they use ogrehons in their promotional material
>>743703458It makes you feel like a cuck watching porn as if you were there but not fucking them yourself
>>743735125>uses this to promote the hardwareIt's actually kind of genius.>These two are set up in this shot to set up an initial subconscious impression for the later VR shot>Choice of color (literally dressed like a sofa), lack of enthusiasm and the weird hairstyle immediately sets "Left" apart as a social loner>This then pays off in the VR marketing clip, because the people using VR aren't the most socially awkward outcasts in the shot. "Left" even tries to engage in conversation, but everyone is so focused on the person using VR that "left" is ignored>Choices of haircut for those using VR deliberately don't look weird when wearing a headset>Fat actor "right" using VR to eliminate the idea that moving around isn't for everyoneIt's a lot of subconscious impressions for a product that really can't be properly marketed without a demo and which has a lot of stigma.
>>743735309don't worry, failing to pass doesn't make you any less validall trannies are equally mentally ill and need to join their "sisters" under the bridge
>>743735225mad lole
>>743720252Well yeah if a game is upcoming it by definition cannot be 5+ years old.Holy fuck you furries are retarded.Oh by the way alot of great VR games came out last year.Yiff in hell.
Knights of Fiona will release when you get Frame. Trust the plan.
>>743737547>Knights of Fionanever heard of it before but it looks cute
>buy $100 controller>it doesn't work and steam refuses to helpYeah nah I'm not going to purchase any valve hardware any again.
>>743737798Would work on my machine if I had one.
>>743735125
>>743740104>tfw I use arch
>>743737798The first time you have to connect it with the USB straight into the controller, not try to go wireless straight away.It needs to update.
>>743740104
>>743684904*polite chuckle*
>>743737798Show us the email they sent
>>743693969>And I can jack off 4 times a day,Rookie numbers tbhfamlam
>>743727296https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FLRHejWAo8
>>743737547>>743737624Can't wait to go questing with /v/
>>743684787are there affordable hobbyist gloves with haptic feedback? I want to be able to feel characters when I grope them in games.I guess other affordable haptic stuff would be cool to know about too.
>>743742931gloves not so muchthere's a couple of expensive project things that replace your controller and have tracked gloves but they don't have haptics afaikcompanies like bHaptics make a slew of haptic things. Like a vest, a facial interface, and I think they also have some things you wear on your wrist that vibrate too.The amount of support for them falls off once you start looking past the vest.you can definitely use all of their accessories in skyrim though and they have a support list on their website.but that's just vibratory motorsthere's also the uwusuit that shocks you through electrodes, don't think they have anything for hands.what your describing exists in enterprise tech. A loud backpack that pumps compressed air into gloves that can restrict your hand to simulate grabbing objects. It's like $7k and obviously you have to create you own support for it since it's designed for like aircraft mechanic simulations or some shit
>>743743186>gloves not so muchthere's a couple of expensive project things that replace your controller and have tracked gloves but they don't have haptics afaikI imagine its another one of those "Technology is held back by worthless patents by companies that won't sell products for average consumers" scenarios, just like with 3D printing.
>>743743405possiblyif you have a 3d printer there are some diy haptic gloves that use string and little motors to restrict your fingers.i imagine there's very little support for em and I have no idea how well they workI have the bhaptics vest and it's pretty good. Games with native support take no effort, you just put it on and it works.funny enough a lot of games that have come out over the last year haven't included support, but most mods usually do. (because it's fairly easy to implement I guess)even has an audio mode if there's no support you can tie it to an equalizer so it vibrates sectors at certain audio frequencies
Insider here2 hoursDon't (You) me
>>743746328Inside her2 hoursDon't cum
>>743746328>>743746650I'M CUMMIIIIIIIING
>new to VR>just want to play Ace Combat 7 VR and fuck around with mods for existing games>literally just this shit>know Frame is dropping, know Pico Swan could be good, know that other options are retarded and jewish and/or overpriced>still no fucking Frame nor Pico SwanLET ME FUCKING BUY THIS SHIT YOU FUCKING KEKS
>>743747290no :)
>>743746650>2 hours inside her without cumming Realistically, how do you pull that shit off? Wouldn't you automatically cum once the vagina acid goo enters your urethra even if you aren't thrusting anymore?
>>743747576jack off just before sex
>>743747961and during
>>743747576Alcohol
>>743735540>Oh by the way alot of great VR games came out last year.Name 5.
>>743709091Consider putting like 8k of that in a High Yield Savings Account! It only takes a day or 2 to move HYSA to your checking account, and it will make you a couple bucks a month. HYSA Interest Rates are still a little elevated.
>>743735540And the most retarded post in the thread goes too...
>>743707114>the selling point is that it makes the part of the display you're not looking at worse
>>743747576>Wouldn't you automatically cum once the vagina acid goo enters your urethra even if you aren't thrusting anymore
>>743749254nobody forces you to make it look worsejust leave it alone and make the part of the display you are looking at better
>16GB RAM onboardHow is this going to be less than $1299? I don't see it. PSVR2 is good enough for a third of the price too.
>Resident evil 2,3,4,7,8>Deep rock galactic>Hitman>Trepang2>Subnautica>The Forest>Payday2VR is pretty sick when you pivot away from actual VR games to VR mods for already good games
>>743723592
>>743732231depends on how susceptible you are I guesswouldnt be surprised if some of them were druggies
>>743735016nonot only are its specs almost a decade old, its controllers constantly break and replacements are expensive
>>743712303Not true, I play over wifi and have never had any lag or blurriness.
>>743696164What privacy do you still have retard, nothing you are doing is of any interest or you'd already be in the black site.
>>743732231I'm not touch starved or susceptible to these types of experiences at allhowever, the nut you have in VR porn hits some different neural pathway and you just know you're playing with some dangerous magic
>>743697140Just go to your local pawn shop, buy one and then buy a new strap to get the groid stink out
>>743741737The issue I'm having is that the controller won't work unless I run steam as admin. Windows detects it so my USBs work but steaminput doesn't work unless it's admin and there's no way I'm running steam as admin. I've been going back and forth with steam support for a month now and they have no solution and would rather just refund it.
>>743750680ah so your "steam refuses to help" bit was a lie then, considering they even offered you a fucking refund
>>743708905okay fuck it buying a frame right now
>>743708905there's a lot of research and tools coming out around that, it's niceI guess if you really want to take full advantage of it you'd want something like an AVP
>>743750721a refund is not help. a refund is admitting that you can't help or fix it and just give up. the fact that they were so eager to offer a refund within a week without even bothering to try to help me troubleshoot just shows that they don't care. they know this problem exists and all the support they can offer is just to tell me to post it on the forums and not offer me any real support on what may be causing it.
>>743751016>>743750680Literally says they're actively looking at it, stop being such a faggot
>>743750893>a lot of research and tools coming out around that,the "tools" become paywalled after gaining enough usage
>>743751184Yes and the first picture is saying there's no timeframe and may never actually get fixed. This is a premium $100 device and oh whoopsy it doesn't work doesn't cut it.
>>743751295So you would like them to instantly fix an issue that they first have to pinpoint and despite being upset that it doesn't work, you have no desire to take them up on the refund they've offered you.Have I got all of that right?
>>743749267That doesn't answer my question
What is the state of VR porn now? I only really want this thing to level up my goon sesh, I don't think there are any VR games that look good. Why don't these bozos just make shit like sin and punishment but immersive?
>>743751295it sounds like you would rather have an $100 paperweight so you have something to be mad about instead of just refunding itthat is to say, you're a faggot without anything better to do
Where's the waitlist?
>>743747576If you were a chad, you wouldn't need to ask.
>>743751016>>743750680hahahahahaha steamies BTFOshould have bought an xbox controller, an 8bitdo, a gamesaar, etc. it just WORKS lmao unlike steamie controller>>743751129>pay money>product doesn't work>steamies think you should be happy it doesn't worklmaoooooooooooooo
>>743752349Eww an Indian
>>743692569ffs, this is the h3vr dev btwi always kinda worried about this shit, but he mostly kept his politics out of the game and devlogs.But then when his *super secret new vr game* just turned out to be a sequel? of a game that hadn't even left early access at the time?whatta cunt
>>743751501i would have preferred them to offer me some things to test on my end to solve the issue but all that they can offer is "post on the forums". It sounds entirely like a "not my problem" issue and would rather just give me a refund instead of helping me fix it.>>743751760I would rather have a device that costs $100 to work. Steam releasing a controller in 2026 and it not working on all devices is not okay. I have a very standard w11 setup and it's not working. Idk why you faggots are defending valve, if this was any of the big 3 console companies releasing a $100 device you would be shitting on them nonstop but valve gets a free pass because ???.
>>743753090>and would rather just give me a refund instead of helping me fix it.Nigger they said they're actively looking into it, you didn't get some automated response.
>>743753090>w11No one is forcing you to use proprietary shitSteam controller works fine on FOSS operating systems
>>743753305nta, but they can say anything, you retarded bootlicking cultist
>>743753398Wow what an argument, anyone can say anything so I just choose to be angry and retarded!
>>743753492>small indie company pls understand!kill yourself
>>743753305This issue has been known since launch and who knows if they knew about it even before then. It's been 2+ months and they can't offer any personalized support and give some things for me to test test on my end. They just give generic responses and tell me to be patient. This is not okay for any kind of expensive tech.
>>743752608He needed to get a Quest game out quick. The 5k sales on Steam don't bring food to the table.
>>743753678>This is not okay for any kind of expensive tech.Well it's a good thing they've offered you a fucking refund then
valve can do no wrong
>>743753989nooooo, he's one of the good billionaires!what do you mean he takes the same cut of money as every other storefront, gets kids addicted to gambling, and spends all the money on his yacht business instead of vidya??!
>>743753090they're getting a pass from me because the controller I have works on my setup which leads me to believe you have some retarded shit happening on your end, which is unfortunate and I hope the problem gets fixed either from you figuring it out or valve figuring it out, but the main factor here is that you seem like a bit of a dickhead
>>743753090I do think that xinput not at least being an optional driver you could install or something is retarded but with Steam the controller just werks even on my glued together w10 iot ltsc. If you don't want to have Steam open to use it there's third party tools on github.
>>743753989this nigga is getting glazed harder than Elon in 2018
>>743684787I'd rather just wait 5-10 years for this shit to be like $300.
>>743684787Where?
>>743755292look up the current price of index
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamframehttps://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamframehttps://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamframeWAITLIST IS UP
>>743755446FUCK NOT AGAIN
>>743755446>$1350>$1350>$1350LMAOOOOOOO
shant get baited
>>743755641Thirdies are here to cry already I see
>>743755446
>743755446stop baiting faggot, christ
>>743755446E N O U G H
The samefagging is off the charts lmao
>>743753090>offer me some things to test on my end to solve the issueBecause you installed something retarded on your PC that's hijacking the controller, and they can't tell you what you have installed.
>>743755363looks like a full kit is averaging $500 on ebay. Given the extra equipment you'd need to use an Index like light-stands, I think my estimate is still pretty reasonable. Maybe closer to $400 given that it can function as a stand-alone computer.
>>743756160I have a pretty basic setup with W11. The only thing I have installed that requires elevated access that I use frequently is cheat engine but that doesn't run in the background. I even booted my PC is safe mode and the controller still wouldn't get picked up unless steam was running in admin. I also did a clean reinstall of steam. The last 2 things I could try is to update my mobo bios and do a clean reinstall with windows but it's such a pain with TPM bullshit these days.
>>743732231>same thing with those hypnosis tracks that people said would fuck up your mind a decade ago.jackpot
>quest 3 costs half what the frame does>Colour pass through cameras>Native steam support through a few different apps>Available right now >2 years of return to base if something breaks>Large aftermarket parts selection so you can tailor your setupMaybe I had to set up a Facebook account a couple of years ago, I genuinely don't remember, I just got set up and then never thought about it.I play offline, attached to a VR casting router that's wired to my pc for wireless steam games.I'm just saying consider it, it's right there and I've had great fun most days for nearly 3 years now
>>743756786>Different appsBy which I mean, you can use virtual desktop, steams app, metas own app, probably others.>Return to baseI should also clarify, one of my controllers partly died from sweat, it had a button act like it was stuck in. I sent it away and got a replacement controller within 2 weeks. I just needed to talk to jeet support on WhatsApp and provide proof of purchase. Overall a decent experience.
>>743756786>VR casting router that's wired to my pc for wireless steam gamesDo you have a quick rundown on how much work/money this is to set up? I've been using the link cable for years and want to switch but i don't want to compromise on bitrate/delay for wireless convenience
>>743756387I'd bet on the windows reinstall working, but it's really the nuclear option. You ever try to get a dualshock running or map keys to a controller or something? My guess would be you installed a modded driver for some reason. You could try uninstalling whatever the device pops up as in device manager without steam running, if that doesn't work you could try and go in and delete the dinput and hid drivers then using dism and sfc to reinstall them from scratch, but if you don't really know what you're doing that might just end with you reinstalling windows anyway
>>743757098>but i don't want to compromise on bitrate/delay for wireless convenienceyou don't want to switch then
>>743737798the zip on the case for my steam deck kept catching to the point i could barely close it and they sent me a new one no questions asked
they put a computer inside it for some reason so it's gonna cost over $1k thanks to sam altman
>>743753305>>743753492>>743753783>>743753346>>743754310>>743754369>>743756160Steam Defence Force's best arguments are>it werks on my machine>it wekrs on loonix>just be grateful valve took your money basterd bloody benchod biyatch>it doesn't matter that it was a known issue before release and they have no fix in sight>it doesn't matter than an xbox controller literally just works on any device and any OSNot sending their best.
>>743757965>they put a computer inside it for some reasonit needs to be there for wireless
>>743737798The first time I had to return my deck they were a gigantic pain in the ass to deal with. I had to do like 3 weeks of trouble shooting with proof for them, then when I finished they passed me off to another guy who told me to restart and do the whole thing again. Eventually I asked why they were wasting so much time and they just accepted the RMA request.
>>743758067>first timewhat are you doing to your decks
>>743759001Steam hardware quality is horrible. Index needs 3 controller replacement a year and new cable every other year
>>743759001I bought a launch product near day 1, valve also has shit QC.
>>743757098Not much maybe 30 bucks, I just bought the cheapest ipv6 or whatever router, that could transmit a lot of Mbps, I connect it to my pcs ethernet, and it broadcasts just as a normal WiFi router, I connect to it with my headset and then run streaming over air rather than via cable.It's the same as cable after that for me, just a one time setup.I'm sure there's a smart way to bridge it with my PCs WiFi so that I can get my quest online but it's not a must for me as I only play singleplayer stuff
>>743758047The computation, RAM and storage cost to decode video or track things in positional space is not the same as the cost to play videogames. It needs to be there to beta test ARM steam OS, that's the only reason its there.
>>743757748>but i don't want to compromise on bitrate/delay for wireless convenience>you don't want to switch thenUnless anon has that red kind of USB (3.1?) a modern router will give just as high a bitrate.When I'm wired it's with one of those, my experience is about 95% the same with wireless, in terms of perceivable bitrate. Maybe sometimes my blacks get crushed for a second or two, but that's about it.
>>743759947I should add, my quest doesn't live offline, because it has to keep version parity with the meta app on PC. You'd have to keep both sides offline to avoid ever updating, but in my view, they've improved more things over time than they've broken, particularly pass through picture quality is really good compared to 3 years ago on the same hardware
>>743760064>The computation, RAM and storage cost to decode video or track things in positional space is not the same as the cost to play videogamesit's very similar unless you design your own chipthis is just a standard phone chip, which likely costs less than designing and making a more barebones chip
next monday for surebabby's first VR headset is gonna be +1k bucks because of sam
>>743760365You don't need a powerful chip that can handle games, 8GB of RAM or 500GB - 1TB of storage for that and this is going to be the main cause of the price discrepancy with their original target.
>>743757548i've tried all of that of individually uninstalling all the HID drivers and rebooting steam. I have an xbox controller that works fine, it's just this steam controller with steaminput is a menace. for whatever reason. I plugged the steam controller into my windows surface pro through a hub and it worked through that for whatever reason so it's not the controller.
>>743758025>it wekrs on loonixWhat's wrong with that?I'm a Linux user, so I want my hardware to work natively on it.
