how were they allowed to release a game this based so shortly after 9/11?
>>743707536>USA campaign starts by rolling into bagdad with tanks to get their WMDs>the blackhawk down "rescue da pilots" mission>the all-commanche mission where you "protect convoy" (read: farm kills)>the beach invasion with tomahawksfrom peak to peak to peak
>there was a mod that turned it into mech commander>it didn't replace the campaign>rolling into bagdhad, USA 01, with SLDF mechs and tankspeakest of peake
>game where the muslims are the bad guys with none of the THE EVIL WEST MADE THEM LIKE THIS narrative liberals love to spout it certainly couldn't be made today
>>743708319ackshully, i think the interplay between (hypothetical) USA and GLA campaigns could depict that pretty well. get some USA mission where you bomb a series of insurgent lairs in villages, do the classic iran/hamas/palestine/etc thing where they hide the terrorist shit under a hospital. make a big play out of using precision weapons, limiting collateral damage etc.then flip to GLA mission, you get to watch a cutscene about americans bombing your village, homes in peril etc. then proceed to rebuild your GLA barracks next to the local girls' school. you can get a real "cycles of violence" narrative going on, some "heroes and villains on both sides" kind of shit, lean into some metal gear shit about cynical profiteers (ex. saudis, lockmart) keeping the wars going.that is, if only they gave a shit.
>>743708319yet everyone likes GLA the most
>>743709372because imaginary muslims are better than the real onesSoviets are my favorites in Red Alert but in real life I genuinely believe communists should drop dead
>>743709372People like them because they're funny and endlessly quotable. Every single GLA line is hammed up to fuck. Only a few China units compare.
>so weak and irrelevant they're not even a faction
>>743708319>Are the bad guys? They are objectively morally correct.
>>743709534If Soviets actually managed to raze London to the ground they would be far more sympathetic in the first place.
Spamming hackers and huge tanks was my favorite strat. Chyna numba wan
>>743707705This is the generals timeline anyway. Gla will get their land back and expand.
>>743710614play rise of the reds
>>743716929RoTR Russia is ironically a less accurate depiction of them today then RA2 Russia.
>>743717198If the game was accurate Russia would be using sovshit vehicles 60 years out of date and have an upgrade that allows you to train soldiers three times as fast but they die in 2 seconds
>>743717254> parroting western propagandaThank you for showing us that it's not worth to listen to your opinion
>>743717598TSARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>743717620How's your iran expedition going? Are Persian cats hard to beat, yeah? Certainly you can find solace in believing that you did them oh so much damage, they lost 5000 years, likely more. Look, UFO!
>>743716929Incredible amount of work and love in that mod, but man does it have shortcomings. Some units have multiple active abilities and require an annoying amount of micro to use properly. The extra tier of AA also fucks the fragile glass cannon air units really hard.
>win
>>743709683They're also fun as shit to play as with friends. You might not win every game but nothing beats sneaking a few demo trucks into your friends' huge column of overlords that he's spent the last 20 minutes building, only to have them all blow up as soon as they reach your base.Hit and runs with mobs of stealthed rocket buggies was also good for a laugh, my friends hated that shit.
>>743707536In the modern world, great leaders talk with words.Words like:
hate these fucking niggers
>>743707536I like how there's a different level of derangement in each faction>USA is all Star-Spangled Banner "we're the good guys" lines>China with throwaway lines on killing people and delusions of grandeur e.g., Dragon tank, Overlord tank, the dozers>GLA went full wacko with all the screaming and psychotic mutterings
>>743720167Get in loser we're building the 4th Reich
>>743707931>screenshot saved to *.bmpow, my crinkling kneesat least it's not .tga
>>743720167I like how the American derangement is just the baseline for American media at the time.
>free those poor peasants from Chinese oppression >How? By blowing up the dam and drowning them, of course and do it fast we gotta raid UN lootboxes and make sure grandma's don't steal em by running them over 10/10 kino I was laughing so hard. Definitely my top favorite campaign far as RTS games go.
>>743709683>Only a few China units compare.Chinese bulldozer is a melting pot of frenship with how positive he is.
>>743720268These cunts are so fucking useless it's almost comical. How I would imagine the EU today as a functional military power once they stopped having meetings about their meetings.
>>743720791That's why they got rid of the civvies in Zero Hour I'd reckon. Shit's too spicy even for the devs.
>>743720976rusnigger
>>743720167>Battlebus driver is a neat freak that likes to keep his ride clean>Quad Cannon is a raging prick>SCUD Launcher is completely deranged
>>743721096Imagine building a turtle faction that is completely worthless once their power grid goes down because they rely on a meme solar generator.
>>743721179>open final.big >find file that pertains to solar reactor>edit file to say i can build as many as i wantthere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpBUy2OFaAMbest RTS ending ever
>>743719250beep beep faget
>>743721360the "anthrax" is just brown girl feet smell
>>743717915The ECA making extensive use of layered defensive structures only to get flattened by nukes seems like a waste. In another game that isn't as fast paced they could work well.
>>743708319The issue is you're conditioned to think of it as bad guys vs good guys. It's just people fighting for their own interests vs people fighting for their own interests. That's all it has ever been
>>743719250Humvees are worse
>>743721723humvees don't have artillery range or self heal
>>743721756Just a early rush capabilities and upgrades, not big deal, reeeealy
>>743721907China tank is unplayable
>>743719250Fuck your missileman in a jeep.
how does she smell?
>>743707536It makes perfect sense.
>>743722168It's today they wouldn't release the game.
>>743722146very smerry
>>743722146with her nose
>AK-47s for everybodeee
>>743724739Pretty sure it's "everyone".
>>743708319the GLA campaign starts with a universal good of killing as many somalians as possible
>>743719250>outrange almost everything>outrun almost everything>extra ammo upgrade>pair with flak so they can't get chopper spammed>GPS scrambler makes them invisibleOh yeah, it's GLA timewww.youtube.com/watch?v=mhsFGJs8a3A
>>743710614painfully accurate.
>>743707931>.bmp.exe.jpeg.jpg
>>743708319If you're this direction brained, you should avoid the Expansion Zero Hour at all costs given the GLA kicks America's ass into full isolationism, complete with them sinking the USS Reagan.
>>743731870bad guys winning isn't a new thing in videogames
>>743709372Even the GLA likes fighting the GLA. You have several mirror match fights with them in the campaign. Meanwhile both the Chinese and American campaigns is also almost nothing but GLA. Biggest downside of the game is that if you just play the campaigns you will not really get to experience any interesting fights against the Chinese or America as either faction in their respective campaigns. No rogue agents, no turncoats, nothing. Just GLA.
>>743721360All the endings are "canon" right? It's been a while, but I always thought each faction's endings are chronological, with GLA then USA then China, which is different from how mainline C&C and RA endings work.
>>743727798You're getting raped by Iran
>>743733550Iran is winning so hard Russian citizens are beating each other up for gas lmao
>>743707536>how were they allowed to release a game this based so shortly after 9/11?Because back then social media didn't really exist. You didn't have a bunch of outraged faggots and ugly women telling AAA game companies what to do.
>>743719250>manifests 12 goo blaster rebels next to your rocket buggy blobnothing personnel
>>743709372But that's wrong you fucking retard. China #1!
>>743733346Yeah, I played through Generals and Zero Hour recently and if you play through the campaigns how they're organised (I think it's China, GLA then USA in Generals and USA, GLA then China in Zero Hour), they clearly feed into each other.
>Congratulations General! You have been promoted.What ability are you getting?
>>743733859The best one.
>>743733859>cash bounty>spy drone>carpet bomber
>>743707705This, not to mention the factions had three very distinct things going on, AND had 4 versions each to play of them with god power tech trees that other RTS didnt really do yet. The campaign was fucking great and multiplayer is still amazing and has a competitive scene going.
>>743719250>build 5 of these>protect them with a few quad cannons>park up on a hill out of the enemy's range and just deny access to a huge area of the map>the second trouble comes I duck back into my invisible tunnel network and teleport to another hillFucking love GLA.
>>743718135China is crumbling faster than the US. lol Lmao.
>>743734680no its not, china is strong like three mountains green bull of fable and wise like meandering river chili oil crisp jade sage water
>>743707931imagine having a game with western vs jap mech and maybe some insect robots or diesel punk mech faction
>>743708319>with none of the THE EVIL WEST MADE THEM LIKE THIS narrative liberals love to spoutLmao the fuck are you talking about. Libs are hardcore pro-west rats who pretend the west is source of good, systemically downplay western crimes and claim west is spreading democracy and good values everyone should follow etc. Only tankies point out reality that it was the west who made their Saudi puppets admittedly spend hundreds of billions on spreading wahabbism (a modern ultra puritan and radical form of islam) with the intention of radicalizing them against socialism and the ussr, and the west also armed them with billions to overthrow socialist countries. There was literally no "islamic terrorism" before the 80s when the US started doing this shit with Afghanistan to overthrow the socialist gov there and propping up the taliban and alqaeda, and there was no terrorism in the middle east at all before the Israeli terrorist groups, who were also shipped there by the west with the intention to serve their imperialist interests. Middle east in general had several times less conflicts than europe had.Libs only like to point out the fact that islamic terrorism claims are exaggerated in a racist manner, which to be fair is also a fact. The posterchild of terrorism aka al-qaeda only ever killed 15k, mostly military targets. By comparison US directly killed hundreds of thousands in illegal resource grab motivated invasions and indirectly killed millions through imposing starvation, impoverishment and propping up divide and rule conflicts to set up overthrows of undesired targets (aka govs who wanted to nationalize their resources)Westoids ofc won't believe reality because their "free (and totally not snake) media" doesn't talk about the US+western alliance in that manner, making westerners assume that "US probably has a moral reason for all these things, otherwise our free, honest media would have informed us already".
>>743735434>There was literally no "islamic terrorism" before the 80sNot that anon, but holy shit stopped reading there.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre
>>743734680>China is crumbling faster than the US>says this will he's sucking Netanyahu dick
>>743734680>year 10 of "china will collapse in 3 months"
>>743733859The most OP ability when you're playing as GLA Demolition>Rebel Ambush>Put some recon into enemy base>Spawn rebels with suicide vests right on the command center
>>743736427>>743736849>two more weeks until the US implodes and us BRICSissies will rule the world!
Does this game still boast the deadliest most proficient sniper units in RTS history?
>>743738032RA2 snipers are pretty OP too.
>>743738032Jarmen Kell would easily run circles around a Vindicare desu. And that is without stealing a MX bike along the way.
>>743707536>how were they allowed to release a game this based so shortly after 9/11?Uh, precisely because it came out shortly after 9/11? I'm not from the US but I came across the episode of the Howard Stern radio show that was airing that day. People were fucking furious along with the radio hosts. The sentiment basically was "BOMB THEM ALL I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT NO COLLATERAL DAMAGE"
>>743738524Yeah I'm guessing anyone who thinks it was surprising for a game like this to immediately follow an event that dramatically stirred things up culturally is too young to know what it was like back then and just assumes it would have worked like they do now, where corporations and governments would all go into damage-control overtime to defend the reputation of the browns
>>743738524Generals ends with a giant "Mission accomplished" style paradeZero Hour ends in the US running away with their tail tucked between their legs letting China take over Europe Looks like this high went away very fast
>>743740012The way I understood it is that 9/11 was what turned the US around forever, made the country united for just a short period only to further highlight the differences between the two main camps later.
>>743722146Do you know why she's called BLACK Lotus?
>>743740012It's amusing that the game which rides on post-9/11 hysteria in America depicts the US as the ultimate loser in the end.
>>743707536Shit was in the works for a long time at Westwood before EA bought them out. That's why they were able to release it.
Capturing the oil!Preserving and spreading freedom by capturing the oil!Oil of freedom!
I BUILD VAGINA
AK47!!! FOR EVERYONE!!!
>>743708790>do the classic iran/hamas/palestine/etc thing where they hide the terrorist shit under a hospital. make a big play out of using precision weaponsPeople make this point but doesn't make sense, unless you disagree with this idea: War is about winning by any means necessary.Consider this: If the USA (or whatever your home country is) were to be conquered by some foreign power, would you really go tell whatever local resistance movements there would be, that they should all clearly mark themselves for easy targeting by the enemy and to stay far away from "muh civilians"? Why make it easy for the enemy?
>>743718135Why don't you post Xi's real face? Does he look to much like a nigger? It's always that edit.
>>743745924>War is about winning by any means necessary.You are implying they have any chance whatsoever of "winning" a fight against a superpower who is operating with resources and technology from so far above them.There's zero chance of victory, it's just idiocy and ideology that results in the deaths of innocents for no reason whatsoever.
>>743741561they pulled off a brood war so the story would continue in Generals 2 (coming to your favorite mobile device)
>>743746338So you should just always give up if the chance of success is low?
>>743707536>KILL BROWNS. KILL BROWNS. KILL BROWNS. KILL BROWNS. KILL BROWNS. KILL BROWNS. KILL BROWNS. easiest thing to sell in amerika in 2000s and even today. your president says its okay to do that
>>743747309>implying it isn't an inherent pleasure to kill muslimsif you disagree with this, you're probably brown yourself
>>743734680Should have upgraded your propaganda center.
>>743747492this. the only thing that's collapsing in China are the buildings, the bridges, the roads and the elevators
>>743735429Empire earth did it at some point i believe. I think it was the third game. Last tech level was literally just western mecha vs gundams and the third faction was a bioweapon faction with bio machines and "biomechs".
>>743747492+1000 social credit.
>>743747703EE2 or 3 maybe. I don't remember any of this in EE1 and the game didn't really have factions.Metal Fatique has mechs but they don't follow a specific theme
fucking sucks
>>743747620The environment, the dams, the factories, the birthrate, the exports.Over 10 thousand people drowned from collapsed dam last week, western news didn't cover it.At least 5 factories were set on fire last week, no news coverage.
>>743747074sometimes I think about what a Generals 2 would be likewould they change China to have drones?what would you give GLA?also what specialty generals would we have?
Mental Omega
>>743747492
>>743733260>Insert joke you tee'd up about America winning in the original game.
>>743751323From the little we saw from the pre-alpha back in the day, EA watered down the war on terror aesthetic real bad. I kinda glad it was cancelled.
>>743710614>Talking about Russia when you should ask where is the rest of Europe that GLA managed to setup shop in HamburgThe game came out in 2003 and it predicts most the Europe would-be supportive of Muslimic take over in one form or another just by its in game missionsOnly the extreme nationalist and right wingers were talking about stuff like this at 00's and that made it into a video game?Like who wrote the stuff?
>>743752381the motherland calls for our aid.
>>743750946>10k chinks die>of 1.3 billonThat's if like 200 americans died in Huracaine Katrina or something.
>>743751832how about I tee your mouth, cute boy
>>743745924War is a continuation of politics by violent means. "Victory at any cost" is an idiotic idea.
https://www.reddit.com/r/VRGaming/comments/1uxyput/command_conquer_gernerals_zh_vr/Somebody is working on a top down VR mod for zero hour.
