>trust me bro it gets better after the base game >gameplay loop is exactly the same but the story is "LE KINO"I want my 80 hours back.
i liked the part where my character smiled then nodded
>>743708468>IT MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE THE MAIN CHARACTER :0
well hey guess what, second game reboot in next expansion
I enjoy it but I'll freely admit it's not for everyone and it is objectively not a good game. I find it fun though.
Yeah I don't see how anyone could compare this to WoW. WoW let's me actually play a video game. I'm told to just go off and do quests. I spend 5 hours killing shit non-stop, complete 25 quests and then turn them all in for that dopamine rush. I was in control of my character the entire time. I was pressing buttons. I was fighting actually hard things sometimes (if Classic). MSQ is turbo dogshit for trannies and women in comparison>go to talk a lala across the game>teleport>walk 10 feet>unskippable dialogue about some nonsense that has nothing to do with the main plot>10 minute cutscene>"okay now go talk to Yshtola">teleport>walk 20 feet>10 minute long cutscene>"go deliver this to Ul'dah bro">teleport>walk 30 feet>10 minute cutscene>unskippable fluff dialogue>"now escort me over there">walk 200 feet while the npc yaps in your ear>"OH NO WARRIOR OF LIGHT AN ASSASSIN APPEARED">dies in like 5 hits>this is the only combat you experienced in the last hour and a half>you won't see anymore combat for another 2 hoursIt's FUCKING TRASH. JRPG dialogue only works when you have a compelling story. 90% of the MSQ is fluff and padding, not compelling. Let me play the fucking game.Then you have shit like level scaling in dungeons, so even when you are max level a majority of your time spent doing your dailies you are getting scaled down to fucking ARR/Heavensward levels where your job plays like fucking boring trash with only 3 usable buttons. XIV is an erp game, not an actual game.
you either raid with>hardcore raider who micromanages people and is annoying but is good at game>casual raider who sucks at the game and barely improves but socially good to have around
>>743707948>200 hours of mostly low effort nonsensical mmo story with fetch quests>"it is the peak of FF storytelling"no wonder the brand is in the shitter ever since FF13>>743709343It was decent and had something going for it at heavensward, but stormblood and beyond to me was just bad. It timegated ur progress anyway with weekly tomes/rng raid lock gear and made farmed gear entirely obsolete the next big patch. Not like crafted gear wasnt bis day 1 mostly.>Nowadaysit would be ok if there was an actual game left, but now it turned into a weird cybersexting experience a la second life for weebs, where every fag spams that shit in dutyfinders.
>>743709724>mfw I'm the first but my static are the second
>>743709468>can't mount in cities>invisible walls everywhere>can't move while an npc is yapping>teleport gameplay>every zone in the world is an instanced area making everything feel disjointed and not like a part of a worldXIV just feels bad. If your MMO isn't a seamless/near seamless open world like RS/WoW then you may as well just make a MonHun style "MMO" because your game is trash and it's not too late to pivot.
Where is FFXIV ARR Classic?
>>743709724How about the 0 parsing healer currently in mine that nobody has worked up the guts to kick out, who spends the entire time complaining but also ardently refuses to read how to actually play the game.
>>743707948its good from the beginningIt just gets better afterDisagree? Filtered.
>>743709724You may hate the asshole raid leader, but you know without him you aren't getting those sweet epics so you kneel. And you'll look back on it as fond memories.
>it gets better after ARR>okay heavensward wasn't too great but just get through stormblood and it'll get better>okay well shadowbringers kind of ramped everything up too much and now you're super special but endwalker is the epic payoff>okay well endwalker was a bit rushed but things will slow down with dawntrail so don't worry>
>>743707948getting into xiv nowadays is something I wouldn't recommend to anyoneI imagine it's akin to what retail wow was, as in"you had to be there" to fully appreciate the highs and lows the game offered>t. started in 2.0 and dropped during endwalker
>want to replay all the gta games before vi>cant stop playing ffxiv 60 fish away from having all the big fish. Why is it so addicting.
>>743709468The worst part is that the game has enough side quests that are similar to WoW quests (go kill 20 X and collect 5 Y) to level up to the max level fully. But you are FORCED to complete the MSQ. WoW doesn't care how you reach max level. You can quest, you can spam dungeons, you can spam pvp, you can go grind mobs the entire way, but nothing is forced down your throat in order for you to progress outside of small things like getting dungeon/raid attuned (which you'll naturally accomplish if your goal is to get geared up and raiding anyways). XIV tells you "sit down, eat your 500 hour goyslop movie that gets more MCU avengers-like as the story progresses, or else you can't have dessert (an actual video game)".The only content I found any enjoyment in is PotD, HoH, and Bozja. Even PvP isn't enjoyable, because you get a stupid PvP exclusive job abilities. You aren't even playing YOUR CHARACTER in an mmoROLEPLAYINGGAME, you're playing some gross abomination carefully bred for "muh balance" like some on rails goyslop "FUN" that the devs want to force on you. AND THE NETCODE IS ABYSMAL IN PVP.Anyone who tells you they enjoy XIV gameplay is actually mentally deranged. Square is kings when it comes to making a spectacle, having great music, cool characters and cutscenes (Emet Selch and Zenos for instance), but the gameplay is just lacking in every major way from start to finish. I actually Mythic Raided in WoW, got cutting edge for every single raid tier through Legion and BFA, was in a top 100 world guild. Savages/Ultimates just don't even fucking come close in terms of gameplay. The music swelling and mid fight transitions are cool, but that's it.
>>743709468Brvtal trvke. And I say this as a day one of 1.0 player. I broke the spell years ago though, I've been just playing through expansion stories then quitting until the next expansion since shadowbringers.
The fuck weird ass chatGPT thread is this
>>743710686>gameplay gets BTFO so handily that a tranny calls it chatgptYou're clearly personally offended.
>>743710830What?
>>743710686Like 90% of threads on /v/ nowadays is one schizophrenic retard samefagging dead threads, seemingly unaware this site has lost 75% of its traffic in a two year span
>>743707948Only way to enjoy FFXIV, is to travel back in time when WoW first turned to shit, and every MMO player was looking for something new to do.Then act like the game is the best thing ever as you slog through ARR leveling, claiming it's the story that keeps you enthralled.Do this for 10 years, until the end of Endwalker, and realize it's all been a waste.
XIV's gameplay is shit but all these essay length posts telling you to play WoW instead are AIDS-ridden blizzard bots.
Video game generals belong on /vg/Making XIV related vague threads does not give you exemptionUma threads mog youGacha threads mog youEvery thread on /v/ mogs you
>>743710906Can you point out which posts in this thread are created by jeetgpt you deranged faggot? (You won't because none of them even look like slop)
>>743711074>how dare you compare the biggest MMO in the world to the second biggest MMO in the world using first hand in depth experiences you had playing both games on a non-casual level>you should only discuss games based on facts you made up in your dreams!Fuck you. I don't play either anymore, because Blizzard has shit the bed just as bad but in different ways. RS/WoW/Everquest these are actual MMORPGs and fun video games. XIV is not and never has been.
Goon. Plap. Sex. Cock. Rape. Cum. These are the reasons why we play the game.I like this. You like this. We like this. This is Final Fantasy XIV: Dawntrail.Wuk Lamat? The rite of succession? Sphene? Don't care about them unless I can plap them, and now that mods are back, we can. We can finally Play The Game™. Time to get comfy and eepy, now that mods are back you can coom ‘n goon with all the classics in the ‘cord like AS (x3), GL, OL, HH, LL, SS, VM, MV, IM, and many others. All we need now is a movie meetup and it’ll feel like we never left Endwalker. One could say it's like going to the "grammy's".#ThankYouModmakers#ThankYouYoshiP#ThankYouKate#ThankYouSena
>>743711458No one is in your thread, you are an out of touch incel now go back to spamming chatGPT slop
>get into the game after over a decade of WoW>share all the same sentiments as anons here>kept playing though because a girl i was dating really wanted me to play with her>end up spending a majority of my time standing around limsa/uldah and the /xivg/ hangout spot fucking with Mare and all the related gooner modsIf I had the capital I'd make an MMO where I could make my cute catgirl but in an actually fun game. Sadly life is cruel.
>>743711590XIV is dying. I know that frustrates you and makes you mad, but you need to let that sink in.
>>743711554Where is the sound version?
"the story is good" has got to be the biggest lie XIVfags unceremoniously get away with for no good reason. "for an MMO though" you might say, but even that is wrong. XIV had its time where it was a good game, but having to play through ARR rightfully filtered most people
>>743711701I do not play ffxiv, I despise the fact your ilk has killed this siteLook how slow this board is.
>>743709851>>Nowadays>it would be ok if there was an actual game left, but now it turned into a weird cybersexting experience a la second life for weebs, where every fag spams that shit in dutyfinders.It's the same shit as it was back then, to its detriment sometimes.Fags being fags in pf or dutyfinder doesn't affect anyone with a static of bros.
Dumpy killed himself lmao the absolute state of anti schizos
>>743707948It also abruptly stops being kino the moment Endwalker's main storyline ends. Holy fuck everything after that was ass and the new expac is going to be even more ass with noble savage au ras that will clearly represent minorities.
>>743711458WoW was the death of actual MMORPGs and you should kill yourself. Runescape was also never an MMO. It was a shitty browser game for Brazilians.
>>743711643>game can either be fun or sexyWhy is this so often the case?>gacha>nier>stellarGood looking, but boring generic and mindless gameplay>DmC>RE>Palworld>MonHun>Dark SoulsGoated gameplay, but the girls either look like trailer trash, designed to be safe horny, have a childish cartoony look, BIPOC, or are non existent.
>>743712013Wrong. Shitnix went bankruptcy after the fucktardery that was all the lightning games, and they fucked up ff14 which was supposed to bail them out.So they had to cancel everything else and put all that device and money into salvaging ff14.It is why they finally had to announce remaking ff7.Because they have always said they would only ever redo 7 if they were about to die.And then we got... whatever the hell the 7 unmakes are supposed to be.
>>743710969>seemingly unaware this site has lost 75% of its traffic in a two year spanThat's really how it feels. On most boards it's literally just a few generals getting a handful of posts per day and dead threads that are mostly politics.
I started the game in Stormblood sometimes around patch 4.2. The ARR story was a slog but then HW saved the game for me I enjoyed the overall atmosphere of that xpac. Going into Stormblood was enjoyable for me as well since I like Asian cultures. The gameplay was at it's best in Stormblood I enjoyed how each classes were but I guess all the savage raiders didn't so it was changed. Anyways Shadowbringers was the first time I was invested into this game where it took a good portion of my time away from other things.Shadowbringers was perfect SE's Magnum Opus, not to mention it was before the full on modbeast apocalypse the game felt like an mmo. Now everything is soft-locked behind mods, your interaction are all fake because everyone is looking for someone to goon with as their character models fuck. It's actually grim how fast this game went downhill when it got the spotlight.I look inside a the shell of the game I formerly loved. All I see are modbeasts gooners, cheating raiders, spreadsheet warriors, and no mmorpg.
>>743712161Moot and Gookmoot could have saved the site by simply rangebanning all of India/China. Bots shitting in our streets caused a lot of people to leave, so now the only threads that get bumped are samefags or bots. Sad state of affairs.
>>743712229Is that a longer post that isn't licking XIV's balls?.... CHATGPT CHATGPT CHATGPT THIS POST IS CHATGPT THIS THREAD IS CHATGPT AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>743712161People got tired of the /v/ threads just being /vg/ general-litesWe have attention whores that have literally spent a half a decade here, it's no small guess
>>743712291I'm just writing whatever comes to my mind i'm not even going to use appropriate punctuation either because most of the time people just write it off as some ai generated response. but it is what it is i literally cant leave this hellhole but at the end of the day its better than most places on the net unless im just uninformed about whatever other banger place there is. just sad to see this place become nothing more than an indian revenue generator really are dark times oh well.
>>743711195chink spotted
>>743709468>>743710539i'm afraid you've bumped into the extremely common hurdle of "WoW player expects other MMOs to be WoW with a coat of paint"
>>743712565>it gets good after 500 hours trust me bro
>>743712276This 100%. Or we get the most "hello fellow kids don't you wanna register to vote" type shills.
>>743712565>player expects game to be good and funwow how dare he, right sister?
>>743712656>>743712692these are so far removed from the post you're replying to that they're visible from space lolespecially 2692's "good and fun" = it's WoW with a coat of paint
>>743712930I accept your concession
>>743712692>WoW>good and fun
>>743712565>two mmos with similar amount of players and a similar expansion + subfee system>how dare you compare the gameplay to let people make an informed decision on which to play!Fuck off already. No one wants to spend 2 months watching your shitty movie only to be met with crippling disappointment when the actual game is subpar. The second post you quoted only mentioned WoW when comparing sidequests and the forced MSQ progression and end game raiding gameplay. Nothing he said was wrong. He could have used any other example of a video game to prove his point, because the point wasn't "WoW is better" it's that "Final Fantasy has shit gameplay" and he used WoW because it's the closest example to the game. You don't compare CoD to Dark Souls. You compare CoD to Battlefield. You don't compare Stardew Valley to Chrono Trigger, you compare it to Harvest Moon and other farming/life sim games. You are being purposefully disingenuous and obtuse.
>>743712930>bad faith>biasedkeep going anon you have to keep your thread bumped and alive somehow
>>743713215yuo see ivan for as long as WoW has existed, WoW has been used as a yardstick by players that expect all other MMOs they play to be "WoW, but", reflected in the poster angry that FFXIV is not an endgame-focused game, it is an MSQ-focused game, and getting to endgame is a slow, laborious, and unworthy process. to the point of calling it "goyslop"to which i say the poster is one of the billions of braindead shit eaters in WoW's world-chat who treats world-chat like it's /pol/, and when he gets told to fuck off back in return he immediately AI gens a picture of their character being eaten alive by fire ants to calm himself down
>>743712685If you browse multiple board you'll see the same image used but with different verbiage. This whole site is nothing but shillbots with a few people sprinkled in at this point. The hack really exposed a lot as well as most went elsewhere.
>retards keep falling for this 40 hour scamkek
Shadowbringers is never going to happen again, SE can try as hard as they want but it just won't. They unintentionally captured like 5 lightning bolts in the same bottle and they can't even get one of those back.
>>743713418But the MSQ is bad and it is shitty goyslop and it is a dogshit uncompelling story made for retards. Glad this has helped.
>>743713556i mean, good, shadowbringers was kinda dog ass outside of 5.0 and 5.3 and bozja took fucking forever to finally arrive, up to and including upcycling the canceled garlean expansion's varis boss for the relic weapon series
>>743713418>entire MMORPG is centered around a boring JRPG storyline where the majority of the time spent is opening a map and clicking teleport and then being trapped in a dialogue/cutscene with no control of your character>this is the only MMORPG like thisIt's shit, sorry haha but I just won't play it!
>>743713768good, everybody that bounces off JRPGs anyways and then decided to play the JRPG MMO and bounced off of it deserves every ounce of self-inflicted suffering they subject themselves to
Why are these threads the same template every time. I thought it was because maybe a janny auto banned them on sight but no the OP just does this
>>743713846FFXI is the JRPG MMO though. XIV is the visual novel MMO.
>>743713870op's pic is one of the first google images results for this game from a steam banner
>>743713925>boring JRPG storyline oh but it's not a JRPG it's a VN actually :^)i'm onto you, pole smoker
>>743713418Classic WoW was a slow, laborious process to endgame. The game still felt fun to log in everyday because you actually were playing a video game, using your character to do fun things, and were always in control of what you did and how you did it. The average 1-60 playtime was about 9 days /played, that's around 200+ hours of content where you were playing a video game, meeting people, making connections to accomplish hard quests or go dungeoning. The world was open and seamless which made it feel alive, going an entire 10 hour play session where the only loading screens you saw were when you first logged in and if you used your hearthstone. WoW was a gamer's MMO. Yes, they shifted focus to an endgame seasonal bullshit cycle that only rewarded the top 1% of the playerbase, but the core gameplay was still good and never faltered, you could ignore that playstyle entirely opting to only do PvP and still have a blast. MSQ on the other hand has ALWAYS been trash.
>>743714027>Classic WoW was a slow, laborious process to endgame.As I recall it Classic WoW is also not terribly endgame focused until you start getting to the expansions.
>>743713998Not onto me well enough to know you're talking to two different people, stupid bitch. You'd bounce off FFXI the same way your retarded zoomer ass bounces off of random encounters because you hate JRPGs.
WoW is trannyslop now, but it will always feel good to play. XIV only feels good if you've never played WoW, or just started XIV.
>>743714125ME BIG BOOMBOOMYOU TINY ZOOMZOOMME SHIT ON U
>hmm i want to play an MMORPG>chooses to play the singleplayer visual novel where you interact with nobody in your instanced content, that you are forced to participate in unless you pay to skip it (which is skipping the entire "game" because XIV has 0 substance)It's like wanting a safe space social media that talks about liberal politics and bans anime then choosing to post on 4chan. XIV can barely be called an MMO or an RPG.
>>743714178>feminized zoomer has a mental breakdown when confronted with his shortcomingsCrazy!
You can really tell Fanfest is soon
>>743709468>>743710653Also a 1.0 player and I completed M9S last time I played. I tried getting my brother into the game and he quit like 1 hour into playing. It's hard trying to convince people to spend hundreds of hours to catch up to you in the game, trying to argue that the MSQ is the main selling point while also trying hard not to steer them towards the pay to skip MSQ mog items. Plus no one socializes in dungeons and people are cliquey as fuck. Unless you play with people it's a solo experience.Anyways, should just install the nav and quest skip tools.
>>743714165Then why do my wow friends like doing ultimate raids so much?
>>743714125I love JRPGS. XIV story simply sucks and is not worth the time investment. It quite simply can never be good, because it's a story told over the course of multiple decades in piecemeal chunks, full of retcons, plot inconsistencies, outdated pop culture, and an incoherent story with no goal or ending because it's an MMO. JRPGS are grounded, set in stone, self contained, the story can be told well because the creator knows how it will end, and the storybeats/pacing feel good throughout the entire playthrough. There is also actual gameplay in a JRPG lmao.
>>743713556People forget that even the Shadowbringers expansion was a mess for releases, consistency and some content issues, and that stuff bled over into EW hard. Bozja literally didn't finish, they just quick shortcut it to conclusion. The job streamlining that neutered everything bad began in StB but started hitting its apex in SB. The retroactive attempts to make it easier for people to get to newer content started getting obstructive and requiring dev time to trim out old shit for content that still is overly long in the tooth at times with arbitrary bullshit. The only reason, the ONLY REASON, people actually still put Shadowbringers on a damn pedestal is entirely because it was the most interesting the MSQ tried to be beyond empire fights and politics, and they quickly pissed it away for a generic and anti-climactic end of the world special.I can argue that FF14 never actually had some massive peak of awesomeness or anything all around, and that some people overlook some of the actual good content in favor of some surface level bullshit elsewhere, but at the end of the day even the supposed "peak" didn't even bring the highest player numbers at the time.
XIVbucks literally cannot help but mention WoW any time criticism is brought upWho here has ever played WoW? The issue is XIV itself sucks massive shit both for new players and old
>>743709724you forgot about the rare third category>hardcore raider with social skills who got gud, but eventually quits because he finds something more fun to play and you may or may not be invited to play friendslop, lobby games, or other mmos with him
>>743714275Manly WoW player shoots fish in a barrel to establish his superiority and dominance
>>743714489There's a WoW player somewhere in this exchange?
>>743714165XIV feels so floaty and laggy it's hard to take the few gameplay moments seriously. Also I spent years hearing XIVtroons shit all over WoW because "muh dbm" but I try XIV and literally every single raider was using modded tools that acted like DBM, even though the bosses themselves literally telegraph every single attack slow as fuck with gaudy lightshows. I felt second hand embarrassment for everyone who played it and then never looked back.>>743714417Let me guess, your friends' best accomplishment was getting AotC.
>>743714562Manly WoW player with dementia, pardon
>>743714623I mentioned another MMO but it wasn't WoW. Can you manage to remember what it was or is the ADHD all you kids claim to have preventing you from acknowledging it?
>>743714682>ADHD no uLmao you suck at banter
>>743711195/dabs on your faggot assstay mad brownie
>>743714714I see the boonspeak is starting to come out. Getting a little tilted "bruh"?
Lost Ark has amazing combat that shits on XIV but it's dying p2w gookslop so... yeah. Worth trying before EoS if you're not in the "I will only ever play this ONE MMO EVER!!" phase of your life.
>>743714761Honestly I can't think of an alternative game to FFXIV being brought up in these threads that didn't undergo either some kind of immediate death or isn't really worth anybody's time. New World was a popular "FFXIV killer" for a while, then, lol lmao.
The real reason XIV trannies freak out when WoW is mentioned is because they know their game is the closest thing to WoW and also know that WoW has and will always be miles ahead of it even with all the nu-pozzed shit. They also know Square will never bring back a "Classic" type experience and seethe and froth that they are stuck playing Troontrail. It's like AMD vs Nvidia. AMD will always be behind Nvidia, so AMDshills seethe relentlessly about it.
>>743714830Frankly all the MMOs aren't really MMOs, or are made for mobile crowds. Remember the double failure of Blue Protocol. You get a couple outliers, old super classic shit still running like Maplestory or Everquest, people doing private servers, but at the end of the day, in terms of theme park MMOs, literally only WoW and FF14 still stand because everyone else crumbled or went niche.
>>743714832>They also know Square will never bring back a "Classic" type experience and seethe and froth that they are stuck playing Troontrail. Wait, there's people who spam the troon word everywhere and want a Classic server for FFXIV? I can't think of any reason to HAVE a Classic server for this game, least of all with a second reboot-level expansion coming. It'd be a 1.X classic server or a Dawntrail classic server.
>>743714438>The issue is XIV itself sucks massive shit both for new players and oldThey need to make a new MMO but they won't, I don't think its possible to fix XIV's core issues. The problem is XIV continues to print money and I doubt they even have developers with enough expertise to develop one from the ground-up, considering most of CS3 is just building on a foundation they inherited, one which they have openly admitted they don't really even understand themselves. If XIV money ever dries up SE might actually be in trouble, but considering XI is somehow experiencing somewhat of a Renaissance decades after its launch maybe XIV will just continue to print money for them forever.
>>743714937part of the issue with an MMO that's still profitable is W H Y would you make a new MMO instead of just making another update for your existing one, this is something square enix has already experienced with XIV 1.0
>>743714832nobody wants xiv classic, even the people who played 1.0/ARR back in 2013 admit the game sucked balls, its funny how people just assume that because the big mmo had a classic version that all mmos would want one, it only worked for literally 2 of them, wow and runescape and that was because both games became unrecognizable zombies of their former glory
i played it for a year from 2022 to 2023 then just quit. gameplay is outdated and bad. graphics are bad story is bad music is good community is weird and bad glad i quit
>>743714931>>743715003Heavensward/Shadowbringers Classic is something a lot of people would cum over.
>>743715000>part of the issue with an MMO that's still profitable is W H Y would you make a new MMO instead of just making another update for your existing one, this is something square enix has already experienced with XIV 1.0But then why doesn't SE pick one way or the other? Hasn't their content releases schedule for 14 slowed down and not sped up?
FFXIV: Combat Devolved
>Entire MSQ is running across empty fields>Flying mounts>Can only fly after completing a zone
>>743715093the thing people would cum over is if the community/life was the same back then, its the same folly that classic-wow fags fall into, the game wasnt vastly more interesting or complex back then, you just had more time and were new to the world so everything seemed more interesting.
there he is
dude
>>743715115anything but reducing the 5 minute GCD
>>743715115you know there's already a dalamud plugin that lets you have your precious 1-2-3 back right
>>743715141they believe slowly running across a field is part of the "MMO World" experience
>crossover event>oh cool CHARACTER is coming this is gonna be neat>CHARACTER arrives >uhhhhh ooohhhhh my head hurts I dont remember where im from >WoL says I know, let's go around eorzea and show you places to jog your memory >sometimes you do fates >oh wow thanks WoL I remember everything, now its time for me to go home >finEvery crossover is like this. They could do cool shit but they are so fucking lazy.
>>743715215It is. If you hate exploring large worlds then why would you choose to play an MMO?
>>743715108their release schedule is set to speed up again as of evercold
>>743715249Oh...I don't know...
>>743709468this is probably the most valid complaint about this game is that the Story is mandatory but the story itself is quite nice all things considered I feel like them selling skips is kind of a dick move.
>>743715249nigga holding W for five minutes isn't exploring
>>743715249There's unfortunately nothing to explore in XIV's overworld, it exists entirely for them to scatter NPCs you have to talk to for MSQ and gathering points across, which is a shame because some of the zone designs are quite nice (but some are also incredibly hideous)
>>743715297skips are mostly there for people who want an alt character, otherwise if you're a newcomer and you're for some reason set on skipping the story you get the esteemed privilege of paying almost as much as you did for the game itself on a story skip
>>743715319Nobody said it was. Explain what counts as exploring to you.
>>743715215What do you mean I cant activate this aetheryte yet. I KNOW YOURE GONNA MAKE ME RUN BACK HERE
>>743715249>exploring
>all the sprouts quit after realizing they'd have to go through a 400 hour mediocre visual novel>all the returners quit after they realized there's no new content other than raidslop that died 6+ months ago>evolved backlash so bad they refuse to even talk about it in berlin>playerscope 2.0>after crybitching the whole expansion that they'll quit if no second ultimate sloppers are now crybitching that DMU was "mid" and the glowsticks are not "hype and aura" enough>mobile game EoSing due to lack of interest
>>743715215>buy the goddamn ff7 bike mount just so i can have one star of travel speed in every new expansion
anyways whats everyone's go-to job in pvp
>>743715402Explain what counts as exploring to you.
>>743715428>playerscope 2.0a vibe-coded mess that's already been repeatedly fucked with and compromised by /xivg/
>>743715380gee anon, I don't knowmaybe when there are things that are actually worth finding instead of just running in a straight line to get to the next quest marker
>gatherer stellar mission is a reduction mission
>>743715530BRD because I hate Frontline but my friend drags me into it anyway
>>743715604>by /xivg/ No it's just one redditor excitedly spamming about it nonstop, whoever actually doxxed him isn't from there. They do have people mentally ill enough to try to take credit for it though.
>>743715727i didn't say it was made by /xivg/ i said /xivg/ has repeatedly fucked with it and compromised it already
>>743707948A Realm Reborn is Kino. It's Diet FF12 and I'm sick of pretending it's a bad story. Millions of modbeast catgirls CAN be wrong, actually.
FF14 would be epicsauce if it were singleplayer and you were a Miqo and the whole plot was about getting Miqo bitches
>>743716586but I'm a miera and pull miqo bitches in multiplayer all the time
>>743714329I did my bingo shitposting chart for it today.
>>743716801saving this for the future
>>743716801wait we already know evangelion is the 8-man raid albeit
>>743717179eva is the 24 man
>>743714727You were pretty silent the last three times you triedLOL
>>743717217oops i'm stupid
>>743715797Yeah, and I said it wasn't /xivg/ doing that, it was one of their local schizophrenic retards taking credit for doing so to feel like a hackerman.
>>743713418>XIV is not an endgame-focused game, it is an MSQ-focused gameOkay but the issue is ARR and post ARR mostly suck so it takes 50-70 hours for the MSQ to get good which seems like an issue
>>743717365unironically if you have no tolerance for ARR and it taking an age to set up foundational information every other expansion draws from you probably won't have tolerance for any other part of the story
>>743717452Bruh they aint even any aura or hype moments in ARR...
>>743715727>whoever actually doxxed him isn't from thereHe's referring to people on /xivg/ doing network probes and using dummy alts to trojan horse stuff into Echo Vault's hilariously insecure (because Claude vibe-coded it) back-end, not the doxxing.
>>743707948>step 1 download the game>step 2 download the cheatsYou are now a xiv player. Please make your way to the to your containment/vg/ board.
>>743717492guys who join specifically for stuff like "I HEARD 5.3 WAS KINO KINO BASED KINO" are my favorite type of player to get filtered out by ARR and the glacially slow pace of all MSQ
>>743717452The start and end of ARR were nice but the middle was bad, Sylph shit was literally the worst thing I've ever had to do in a jrpg. Post-ARR wasn't very good but the ending was kino. Heavensward has been kino. It's just been mostly shit for a dozen or so hours of high highs
>>743715530This one, of course! It's my favorite thing to ride. Trans pride!
Interested in trying this game, never played an MMO beforeDo I get it on steam or the SE website?
>>743715530DRG. just so i can sky shatter while twin adders get 3rd place again
>>743718363SE website
>>743718363If you've never played an MMO before, try WoW. Both of the games have free trials, but this is not the one to start with.
>>743718451Recommending the WoW free trial at all is laughable man
>>743718451Kill yourself blizzdrone.
>>743718363>never played a mmo beforegood thing because ff14 isn't a mmo
>>743718509>>743718543>XIV trannies seething. I literally recommended he not spent money on the game, you're mindbroken from HRT.
>>743718602Kill yourself blizzdrone.
FF14 is one of the few games to inspire a sub genre of action game. It doesn't have a name yet but I call it the "AOE indicator co-op boss fight" game "
>>743718451>Reccomending warcraft after all the actual gay shit blizzard has done>post sterilization worldNah dude you're doing him dirty even telling him to try the game thats in a downward death spiral.
>>743718635name three hundred fifty-two examples
>>743718635Co-op hotbar action game
>>743718363Either/or but SE website goes on sale more often than on Steam
>>743718615>>743718652Again, you're retarded faggots trying to defend XIV too hard. We just had an entire thread about how XIV has hundreds of hours of ARR MSQ that most people won't get through. He's going to quit instantly and forever. At least WoW is fun and that might hook a new player into the genre.
>>743718748Kill yourself blizzdrone.
>If you've never played an MMO before, try WoW
>>743718748you are a literal WoW cultist trying to lead someone away from a game he clearly has interest in you're retarded desperation is fucking sad because I used to be like you. he doesnt have to spend money on FFXIV but he also doesnt have to spend or even try Blizzards walking corpse of a videogame.
>>743718543>>743718615>>743718761>>743718839Is this dude okay? He saved all this on his PC?
>>743718761>>743718839>>743718870WoW is more fun, and it's as simple as that. You can samefag and seethe with trannyslop screenshots, it won't change the truth.
>>743707948I just wanted world dueling so I could RP as a traveling ronin who duels people or something but the community shits itself at the mere idea of that. Theyre so carebear they dont even want other people to pvp
>>743715530SMNdabbing on retards out of position with ifrit dash into titan root is always satisfyingalso dropping bahamut on the masses
>>743718903Kill yourself blizzdrone.
>>743718212not trans, schizo
>>743718967>WoW bad now makes XIV le GOOD now!!Not how this works troon.
>>743718903>wow is more fun>just leveld a whole ass level 60 on Ascension>felt nothing>stopped playingeven your private servers cannot undo the damage blizzard has done to the brand.
>>743719015Kill yourself blizzdrone.
Anti-blizz shill got real uppityWhat did he do in XIV today? Nothing except cry here and make threads on /v/ all day
We need to convince Asmongold and Rich to play Evercold. It's the only way to save the game.
>>743718895Uh oh, janjan didn't like this one for some reason.
>>743718451Please, anon. FF14 is slow and sluggish but at least it teaches you how to play, though actually learning jobs is a bit more online info hunting. WoW just fucking throws you into the deep end and expects you to look shit up to get to endgame as fast as humanly possible.
>>743719070Must be upset his dragonfucker thread died
>>743719105Counting the minutes he evadesJust wait...
If you can't admit WoW has its pros and cons, you're a deranged tranny, simple as. Both games have their pros and cons.
>>743719171get outa here with your reasonable takes, this is /v/- ragebaiting
>made a genuine thread about some issues getting into the game>this happens
>>743707948>he actually believed "it gets good after 80 hours"
>>743719206Post your playtime? Should be easy, right?
>>743719169I didn't get banned or even warned. Tell your pet janny your advertising thread is under attack, blizzdrone faggot.
>>743719105Hey sisters where can I join your Discord.
>>743719230I played about 15 hours then made the threadThe point is that for some reason, my genuine thread got copied and pasted by the weirdos that play
>>743719271I don't think you did, though. What are you even talk about?
>>743719261>If you've never played an MMO before, try WoW
>>743719306What?
>>743719271either schizoids or bots, both are equally likely and some boards like /tv/ or /mu/ have noticed word-for-word repeat threads
>>743719310>If you've never played an MMO before, try WoW^ This, unironically. XIV is for people in their 30's and 40's that have experience XI, WoW, and early XIV before as context for the game. People who haven't played an MMO jumping into XIV will hate it.
>>743710257>imagine it's akin to what retail wow was, as in>"you had to be there" to fully appreciate the highs and lows the game offeredNot even remotely close. FFXIV is largely the same game it has always been. Yes there have been substantial changes over time but how the game is played and what makes the game what it is remains. WoW doesn't even remotely resemble what it used to be. The core gimmick that made the game interesting to begin with (the split between Horde and Alliance) has been raped and destroyed to the point of irrelevance. That's not even mentioning to how they're destroyed any sense of progression and completely disneyfied and ruined the ongoing story and lore. This is largely because, unlike WoW, the same people who were in charge of FFXIV then are still mostly in charge today, and they themselves are gamers. Everyone from the glory days of WoW is gone, replaced with people who only care about the bottom line.FFXIV's glory days are definitely behind it, don't get me wrong, but its situation is nothing akin to WoW's.
>>743707948Story gets good 2000 hours in.
>>743719338One of our lunatics in FFXIV threads has this thing he does where he snaps his fingers in your face and goes "huh? huh? what? huh?" over and over.
So Saturday they will reveal the new tank job?
mentally ill people ruined the internet
>>743719591ye
>>743709092>>IT MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE THE MAIN CHARACTER :0But there is like a million other main characters.
>>743719629Will it be WoL as the new tank job, or someone else like Thancred or even... Hoary Boulder?
>>743719763i could legitimately see them try to uplift hoary boulder
>>743715428You live in a parallel reality lmao.
>>743719839.... World... of... Warcraft... ;^)
>>743719310I want to believe that one on the left is taking the piss but I know better.
>>743719839projection
>>743707948Generals belong on /vg/
>>743719990No, I just know what I observe first hand as someone who plays the game and follows media reactions to it and none of that shit is accurate. It's someone with impotent pent up rage (there are a lot of former FFXIV players like this for some reason) engaging in absurd levels of reductio ad absurdum.
>>743707948Tried this after eso, the lack of voice acting was so obvious i had to quit. How can zenimax voice act every single quest, but square cant voice act even the main questline????
>>743720286Voice acting is for hylics.
>>743720186You are in a cult and lashing out at presented facts like you've been trained to. Want a treat for towing the party line dog? Report in next week to receive your tri-monthly slop from Yoshit.
>>743720286full voice acting is what games do when they have way too much budget
>>743720325me fricking epicly playing both sides (yolo) (swag) #packwatch
hey guys i've never played ffxiv beforewhat am i in for?
>login to xi/v/g>everyone would rather discuss WoW insteadIs FFXIV really that boring?
>>743718602It's not a question of being a xiviez crazy tranny or a blizdrone man, the WoW free trial is actually fucking harmful to anyone playing experience and recommending is really just shooting your own foot/argument.
>>743720509that miera is in dire need of prostate rearrangement
>>743720520Still not a lot to talk about 'til Fanfest on Saturday
>>743720414Yes, see >>743719391 again. Nobody gives a fuck about your tranny spam collection, we've seen both sides of it for years, XIV has the tranny players, WoW has the tranny devs, both sides have their reaction images, nobody actually cares anymore.
>>743720968>If you've never played an MMO before, try WoW
can you guys at least hornypost about npcs or something instead of slapfighting over which gay tranny game has more gay trannies
>>743721024>Pictured: a group of people having infinitely more fun pressing buttons in their MMO than XIV players
>>743709851>stormblood>badOpinion discarded.
Just a reminder that Speen is joining the Scions and you will apologize this weekend for denying it.
>been playing this off and on since 2013>never read a single line of dialogue or watched a single cut sceneI play for the end game, anything else doesn't matter.
>>743721613honestly you aren't missing that much, it's mostly drivel
I just started playing WoW because M+ really interests me but having to use portals and fly everywhere sucks ass.
>>743718363If you have never played a MMO before but played a JRPG, I would recommend FFXIV and using SE website for it.FF14 is a RPGMMOWoW is a MMORPGThe problem with WoW is that if you didn't play it when it released or during TBC at least and played it since then, you will not have a good time.The game expect you to know everything, so it just throw you into the latest story or expect you to buy a boost to max level, then it's just dailies/weeklies/M+The problem with FF14 is that it's a RPG first and foremost and a MMO second.Basically for up to 200 hours you'll just follow a story and move character to stuff to kill and have some multiplayer dungeon or trial from time to time.
WoW is a videogameTrany14 is a book
>>743721752>The problem with FF14 is that it's a RPG first and foremostWhat RPG mechanics does FF14 have?
>>743721802That's like asking "What RPG mechanic does a JRPG have?"
>>743721832Can you answer the question? What RPG mechanics does FF14 have?
I realized I like MMOs because you get the experience of a RPG without really needing to or caring about collecting 100 of a bunch of random bullshit. You can just go farm bosses and get strong that way.
>>743710135The only problem with endwalker is the majority of story dungeons being significantly lower quality than stormblood or shadowbringers
It could be better but it's far from bad. An MMO isn't meant to have a super engaging story 100% of the time. Filler is meant to be there.The fights in the MSQ could be more difficult though.
>>743721846levels, exp, classes, and stat slots
>>743721984Based on this description, you believe Marvel Rivals is an RPG?
>>743721802Class selection. Skill point distribution. Gear choices. Playing as a character you create.
>>743721984>FF14 is an RPG first and foremost>and by that I mean it has surface level labels on your character window that you would typically associate with RPGs but in this case they don't actually mean anything and you don't engage with them at all
>>743722021Do you create your own character in rivals?
>>743722021>>743722097too easy
Must have mods for FFXIV? (no gooner shit)
>>743721846You play the role of the Warrior of Light, you have moves that let you kill things that grant you experience points to level up and grant you abilities to play the role of either a healer, a tank or a damage dealer, you follow your own story in a quest for adventure with tribulation and disasters, you have the ability to even upgrade your starting class to a job system which give you the ability to swap to different roles, this system was introduced in Final Fantasy II.Is that good enough for you or you'd rather we go the >"You can't pick talents points or your own stats so XIV has no RPG mechanic!!!1"
>>743722121Did you list character creation?Can you also explain how you think a completely cosmetic character creator is an RPG mechanic?>>743722070Can you explain how you think a completely cosmetic character creator is an RPG mechanic?Can you explain what gear choices you think you make in FFXIV?Can you explain how class selection in FFXIV differs from Overwatch?
>>743722158aetherphone
>>743722171>You play the role of the Warrior of Light, you have moves that let you kill things>it's a video game and you do things
>>743708468>Thancred and Alphinaud reference the PC's constantly nodding.I had to laugh at that. At this point when the PC nods, I just put "you got it, dude/dudette" with the Olsen Twins saying it there as a line and start to laugh like a maniac over how common it is.
>>743722182here's my explanationhttps://youtu.be/9FLRHejWAo8
>>743722224Yeah?Will you also say that because you push buttons in overwatch it's the same game as XIV and so not a RPG?
>an RPG is when you control a character and do things
>>743722191What's it do? I know for sure i need the mod that lets you zoom out more and that one that tells you raid mechanics
>>743722270I think FFXIV has more in common with Overwatch than any proper RPG and I am absolutely willing to back that up.
>>743707948>gameplay loopYou're talking about the running back and forth, talking to NPCs for hours on end, right? Playing FFXIV was like reading a bad book, but getting interrupted after every paragraph to do a chore.
>>743722270Mario has moves that let him kill things so Super Mario Bros is an RPG
>>743722341Overwatch stem from MOBAs which stem from MMOs no?
>>743722423MOBAs come from RTS
>>743722423MOBAs stem from RTS's. Do you know anything about video games?
>>743722457>>743722472DOTA obviously took inspiration from Warcraft 2/3 but things like specific line roles was definitively something more TRINITYish
>>743722341Cool but no one cares what you think
>>743722645The assmad torrent of replies I'm getting proves you wrong.
>>743722687Its good bait desu I'll give you that
WoW has statsTherefor it's a RPGhttps://www.wowhead.com/guide/attributes-and-stats-from-world-of-warcraft-6117XIV has no stats and gear don't matterTherefor it's not a RPGThere you go.
>>743722774It's not bait, XIV is just a game played by a lot of people who hate video games and don't know a single fucking thing about them. Saying XIV isn't an RPG is, for some reason, considered an attack on the game and on themselves. As if the value of the game rides on it being an RPG and not what it actually has to offer. It's all about perception with the XIV playerbase.
>>743722687
>>743722870This supposed to be relevant to the discussion bud?
>>743709468the """"people"""" saying the MSQ are good have probably never read a book in their life.
>>743707948I spent 136 hours on and it but it doesnt get any better lol.
FFXIV: Evercold is the greatest game in the world and if you disagree you're just a barry pablo doomsissy lil buddy wowtranny chud.If you want it to read even more like an old-school 4chan schizo/philosophy post—with less polish and more "guy who's been arguing about JRPGs for six hours" energy—I can do that too.
>>743723298you got real quiet after that post you're copying to make it seem like not a big deal was posted
bros...its over...
thread raped and gapednice 'discussion'
>>743724585we're in the other thread shitposterkun
>>743722384Honestly, it would be a better game if they just removed the game entirely, made the entire MSQ into a huge movie, you had to watch the entire thing, and then you pop out the other side as a max level character. Why even bother with the running around?
ARR was fucking soul.https://youtu.be/Z4yK2nmMvpo?si=LbLOTdxo8_anVFEe
>even with having my max level friend taxi me around MSQ on her flying mount, where I'd normally have to walk, it was still absolutely boring dogshitAnyone who thinks this story is anywhere near any other JRPG stories or even "as good as a novel" should kill themselves.
>>743725267most novels are ass, just like the rest of human creative workfino fanto having a decent enough story to invite comparisons to better works is more a sign of how FUCKING LOW THE BAR IS for MMORPG storytelling than it is a sign of its own ability at storytelling
>>743712565I expect your MMO to act like a MMO. This forced story 90% cutscene crap aint it. Its an outlier to the genre and even if its popular that doesnt mean its good. Whats worse is that its popular for terrible reasons like the Second Life modding scene.
>>743709724This is a baldfaced lie.You actually either raid with>causal raider who sucks at the game and barely improved and micromanages people and is annoying but is good at game>casual raider who sucks at the game and spergs out over every little thing, acting as if they know everything but doesn't>casual raider who sucks at the game and barely improves but socially good to have around
>>743726653>Second Life modding sceneBack to r/shitpostxiv with ye.
>>743726850You made this post last week briefly before admitting to being a redditor and trying to shame people making fun of you for it.
>>743727030Ah cool I stepped on a Thread Schizo™ landmine for knowing about r/shitpostxiv's usual tricks and japes. Surely you won't hang onto this for 300 more posts begging for attention from a perceived slight.
>>743727184You know about what happens on reddit because you post there.Funniest part? You don't even play this game.
you guys do anything fun in final fantasy 14 today?
>>743727312Still working on gold ranking all space crafting missions. Just one left on the moon and it's pretty absurd.
Hopes, fears, jeers and queers for the Evolved system? Recap:>Dragoon got left/right positionals that matter, the old Spineshatter Dive with a baked-in True North effect replaces Jump, PvP limit break Sky High with 90% damage reduction>Paladin didn't change a lot but Cover is now tied to Intervene when targeting a party member and it gets a 1000 potency "counterattack" from a specific defense cooldown>White Mage is forced to use GCD healing to build job gauge, 1 1 1 1 1 gameplay seemingly remains>Bard has MP refresh and Expedition effects in addiction to situationally changing its songs and getting an overhaul on its bow stuff>Party buffs and personal buffs are both dead unless you're Bard or Astrologian
[Good News] Final Fantasy XIV Online has officially reached a new low on steamcharts. The lowest low of Dawntrail and the lowest low since the Stormblood content drought. Now that the crust has settled why did the NA Fanfest hype die so quickly? Will EU fanfest reignite the flame? Find out on the next episode of Dragonball P.
>>743727312Didn't play todayI'm sick
>>743727243>>743727312>>743727352>>743727509are ya winning son?
>>743727568doing ok. i'm getting a bit bored with mentor roulettes, as i keep getting LotA, MSQ roulettes or guildhests
>>743727363I probably won't even resub regardless but I am curious to see what they do with Monk at least, if they bother doing anything beyond compressing the button layout
>>743727568As a matter of fact I'm currently not winning this last moon mission.
>>743707948you should have listened to the anons here
>>743727890the ones that go on daily crusades against the game but complain if they recognize any posting pattern that's not their own????
>>743719618>watch someone an old youtube video of someone doing baelsar's wall and watching the shinryu/omega cutscene>nearly cry when they teleport to idyllshire and aren't instantly surrounded by gooners in garish glams, modernslop, and incoherent outfits that are clearly modded on their endWhenever someone tries to gaslight you and say that the current playerbase hasn't undergone a perverted shift, just watch old footage from the HW or StB days. Sure there were plenty of scantily clad catgirls running around but it's not like today where people use XIV as a substitute for second life and imvu.
>>743727978Oh my Fauci why do you care? Demographic changes don't matter or affect you especially in a community-oriented multiplayer game!
>>743707948FFXI is the better game. An ancient, outdated, and confusing game, but still a better game.I enjoyed XIV's story, but I felt like I was enduring the walk around and talk on repeat plus the hyper linearity of it all. Once I finished Endwalker it was like all my tolerance for it vanished despite enjoying the story.FFXI at least you can ignore a lot of the story content after starting stuff and make significant progression before coming back to it. The only time I ever really felt really story gated in FFXI was when I learned I had to do Chains of Promathia missions to gain the ability to upgrade my artifact and relic gear to 119.
>>743727363you could legionize every job rotation into the game and its still not going to make it a horrible and boring slogno matter how many times they copy wow again its never going to work because the game doesnt have rpg or ff elements to actually use in their copied wow combatthis game was a lost cause when arr came out and it has only become an even worse lost cause as time has gone oneven square enix is trying to get players to stay by saying "oh we're finally giving yoshida money pls come back now"lol
>>743728037>
>>743708468Being a White Mage is so fucking funny in this game. Whenever anyone is slowly and dramatically dying around the WoL and he just stands there totally apathetic to it not casting so much as Cure I I can only conclude he is simply an asshole who gives no fucks.
>>743728054ok anon time to unsub and then go to bed
>>743728065it's been years since I've seen this. thank you, anon
>>743728046If you didn't play 11 while it was current your opinions on it are irrelevant.
>>74371107414 has fine combat. Although you really need to use plugins like noclippy to remove the horrendous animation locks to make it feel as smooth as wow.
>>743727978>nearly cry when they teleport to idyllshire and aren't instantly surrounded by gooners in garish glams, modernslop, and incoherent outfits that are clearly modded on their endat the time it would've mostly been racial gear, moogle costumes, last expac's bahamut or allagan gear (or mhach gear for stormblood) and the same random array of tards in current dungeon gear we've got now, to my memoryi don't think anything really changed, just which glamours are current changed and there's more options than there were before
>>743728331oh also the goblin cap
>>743727978>nearly cryWhat a tranny lol
>>743728189>waaah you didn't play in le super hardcore and punishing 75 era so therefore your opinion on XI being better then XIV doesn't count!!!
>>743728583yes
>>743728583You don't play XI though, you just vaguely know about it from "le chillwave aesthetic vibes of the PS2" bullshit videos
>>743728583even i played in the 75 era anon
>>74372858375 era was much less hardcore because you weren't expected to have gearswap luas and 50 hyper specific gearsets and multiple REMAs to do anything.
its over...
>new trailer soon.Hopefully all ushtola and urianger
>>743727312>>743727557humiliation rituallike a moth to the flame
It took me 3 attempts to start enjoying FFXIV, but I finally did it.The secret was treating it like an RPG, and not an MMO, and also starting in Gridania as a sexy Elezen milf.
>>743729112Did you tell chatgpt to write this one?
>>743728124>Haurchefant dying in your arms>Benediction on CD
>>743729192find a deltarune thread to whine in anon you're a bit lost
>>743727312really sad this guy took alphi poster's bit... peak attention whore behavior
It took me 3 attempts to start enjoying gay anal sex with Hrothgar men, but I finally did it.The secret was finally accepting my place as a bitch, and not a man, and also caging my clitty so I could focus on the pleasure of being cummed inside.
>>743729275The /vg/ general is down the block. XIV isn't even an RPG.
>>743729192Ironically enough the only blatant AI posts are the local schizo's meltdowns like >>743723298>—
>>743729429we're dealing with a real intellectual here if he's so goddamned lazy and stupid he can't even mock a post without an AI's help
>>743729290>did you do anything in game>asking how you would improve the gamenot the same question anonkun
>implying Evercold was ever going to be good>implying Yoshi-P hasn't been coasting since Shadowbringersit's completely over. The casuals and tourists won't stop coping, but anyone with a brain knows the game is dead in the water.
>>743729520nah, its doing fine. and we'll learn more positive news at fanfest
the schedule is already out, and we know exactly what "positive news" they are going to drip-feed us. they are going to reveal the generic physical ranged and the new tank job. Get ready for more homogenized, braindead 1-2-3 combos that play exactly like everything else.
do we love this?
>>743729875this is stale copy pasta.
when the brainrot is so severe you let grok do your FFXIV crybabying
lets talk about the game then. personally i've always felt that current movesets were servicable and that encounter design is what needs more work. the so called boring healer gameplay would be improved with more interactions with the current toolkit rather than changing glare to have no cast timealso, anyone may use this as an excuse to post their characters so others can steal their glams or judge you
>>7437251461.0 fucking sucked to play but the story and cutscenes were better than ARR tbqhfam
Doomerbros... wtf is happening?
>>743729906naw, he's archive posting nowhe hasn't come up with a new tactic in about 4 years
>>743729949it legitimately is a problem that healers use three to five buttons in normal stuff and then twenty-six in savage
>>743729949naw i don't believe this for one bit
>>743729987Is luckybancho trustworthy again?
>>743707948I used to love the game but it became so streamlined and gay that I can't recommend it anymore
>>743727705LotA with first timers is pure hell
the developers have painted themselves into a corner and their only way out is making everything braindead. normal mode you press two buttons for ten minutes straight and turn your brain completely off because the tank is immortalberlin is going to show the healer reworks and it will be an absolute disaster for anyone who actually likes a challenge. id rather just play an arpg at this point
>>743729987free account update, new expansion hopes. thats about it.
>>743730089lol youre seething.
OUR SONG OF HOPE SHE DANCES ON THE WIND
>>743730175im not seething im just laughing at your expense because you actually think cbu3 gives a damn about the player base anymore
>>743729949Healers are boring because bosses are boring. There is hardly any raid wide damage mechanics that aren't telegraphs which everyone can avoid because even Ultimates are baby shit compared to other MMO endgames. If the only person taking any damage is the current tank holding aggro, then there is no reason to heal. Don't know how XIV hasn't solved this already, which means it's a personal choice by the developers. Once again proving that the game was made for mouth breathers and they only thing they put any care into is the Snoy-level Movie "Game" called the MSQ. Everything else plays second fiddle. They can't even trust you to PvP with your actual job and your actual gear you acquired playing the game instead opting to give you some tailor made PvP only garbage, they can't trust you to engage in outdoor world pvp either or duels that both players have to agree to for god's sake. Everything in XIV is a safe sanitized environment free of risk, stress, and challenge which makes the entire game feel stale and mind numbing. It's the MMO for goycattle who want a safe space to turn off their brain.
>>743730251Dumpy it's well established here that nobody even knows or cares what luckybancho is and also it's completely inaccurate and laughable as a metric.
How many real humans actually posted in this thread?
>>743730251i don't understand. is luckybancho a relevant and reliable source now?
>new tank>its a garlean tankno it isnt you stupid garlenigger larpers
>>743729987Ah, so that's why the schizo is working overtime.
How does Square expect players to suspend their disbelief regarding the WoL? You spend the entirety of the game being told you are the omega special dude, only you, in this entire world. But you are surrounded by millions of other WoL and do content with them and it's just never addressed even once. Even when WoW made the player character speshul it makes sense, because you are just 1 of the many speshul adventurers that has saved Azeroth from countless world ending events, basically WoW players are like top tier mercenary units, but the WoL in XIV is supposed to only be 1 guy. Why didn't they just have you join the Scions or some shit? That way every player call just call themselves one of the Scions?
>>743730251As long as the blue line doesn't grow, the game is dying.
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>>743730450the wow comparison is brainlet retard tier.. you claim wow makes more sense when wow lore is a notorious dumpster fire where you are the champion of the alliance but forty other champions are standing next to you doing the exact same quests
>>743730318It's reliable when numbers go down, it's not when numbers go up.
>>743727363Since Mr.Prime also designed umad, which actually deals enough damage to force healers to gcd heal and the tanks to actively mitigate autos, most likely the support design going forwards will cause a lot of crying since evolved combat will be more demanding on healers and tanks.Dps players will have more fun job designs with more freeflowing rotations. Wannabes will claim this makes the jobs more brainless but knowers will see the new jobs and think about how the new designs lets you hard game if you are genuinly skilled at the game.
>>743730450>You spend the entirety of the game being told you are the omega special dude, only youNo, that's only something that happened in ShB.
>>743730510you are huffing industrial grade copium if you think hikaru tanaka is going to save you with "evolved mode" when square enix will just nerf all incoming damage two weeks after patch 80 drops so the second monitor and balmung crowd doesn't unsubscribe. the so called """""freeflowing"""""" dps rotations are just going to be brainless one button combo systems designed to play themselves on a smartphone.. or by a literal bot
>>743730478Yes because you and those 40 other players all beat Ragnaros, Illidan, Arthas, etc together. The WoL is 1 tranny crystal's champion sent from another world and only 1. You are told this many times, but it's never reinforced through gameplay.
>>743730567>still failing to understand the literal plot of shadowbringers and endwalker
>>743730450are you incapable of suspension of disbelief? tell me, how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast yesterday
>>743729889are they all trans
>>743730556You don't even play the game lmao
>>743730719i am literally sitting here looking at the exact patch notes and community meltdowns over the armory reflection system while you try to argue that a game showing seven dudes spawning out of a glowing magic crystal isn't gameplay reinforcement. you are just mad because you got caught red handed skipping every single line of dialogue since ARR just to sprint back to limsa and stare at catgirls. get a new bit.
>>743730616I would be upset that I missed breakfast and that I don't always have the luxury to have a nice breakfast and my skin is white, cuck. Now tell me, how do you expect a player to believe he's the most special isekai anime protagonist, the only person who can save the world, when you are a nobody in a sea of nobodies doing the same exact shit as you? XIV has multiple organizations in it they could have had the player be apart of, but the WoL is forced down your throat through a majority of the MSQ. Everyone bows down to you, because to them you are Hydaelyn's gift (god's gift). The only people who treat you remotely normal are the ascians.
>>743730251>lose 50%>nothingburger, natural falloff, just a small bump on the road>gain 3% back temporarily>WE DID IT THE GAME IS SAVED DOOMERS BTFO!!1!content drought hasn't even started btw
>>743730765dont look at the green number eitherLMFAOTHIS GAME HAS NOT RECEIVED A NEW PLAYER IN LITERAL MONTHS HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>743730297>Everything in XIV is a safe sanitized environment free of risk, stress, and challenge which makes the entire game feel stale and mind numbing. It's the MMO for goycattle who want a safe space to turn off their brain.This also applies to modern wow though. Everything outside of 15+ keys and mythic raids is laughably easy. This is a mmo problem in general. The average player has 80iq.
>>743730753because people with functioning brains can accept that fantasy is just that and that the rules of reality don't apply to it.literally every single time the WoL pulls in allies its explained in game. its not my fault you can't read
>>743707948Yeah you were really going to put that time to more productive things otherwise right?Your time is so valuable, that's why you're here.
After playing korean mmos i dont mind XIVs gearing process. Aside from haste dont add redundant shit like cards to your game. This shit does not to be complicated
>>743707948You're 13 years late to the game
I played through SWTOR as if it was a story based singleplayer game. Can I do the same with XIV? I really REALLY hate social shit so I will try to hide chat and hope to have as little interaction with other people as possible. Is the game set up like SWTOR where it's valid to play as a singleplayer game with almost 0 engagement from other players?
>>743731034I've been through the cycle of>patch comes out>gear up>play game>new patch comes out>regear>play gameenough times in my life now to not be excited about it.I'd be thrilled if they just decide to remove gear from the game entirely and once you hit the level cap you're done "progressing" and the rest comes from knowledge and skill.
>>743731119Like 99% of it yes, and the 1% you still need to group for can be done without speaking, you just matchmake in, hug the floor for 10 minutes and move on with your life.
>>743730251ff bros...
>>743730943Sure, but XIV never had it. Meanwhile in WoW you used to be able to just get ganked out in the open without having to turn on a pvp mode. You could get your kills stolen (all MSQ content is either instanced or it spawns a new set of mobs for you). You could get your ore/herbs stolen. There was a lot more player friction because you shared a world and it felt so much more real. Everything about instanced MMOs feels so lackluster in comparison. And I stopped playing WoW when they started these sanitizing practices. "Oh all gathering nodes are shared now, oh loot is all shared now, oh mob tags are shared now, you gotta turn on warmode to engage in friendly gentlemanly pvp none of this player killing tomfoolery!" Fuck I hate modern MMO design. It's just weird that XIV came out of the box with this modern design in 1.0It really is the singleplayer MMO more than any other.
>>743731119All the major story dungeons have npc support but you'll have to group up with 7 other people for raids and trials.
>>743731362It's just forward thinking. What you're describing sounds fun to a teenage edgelord with unlimited time. Ganking is fun when you're the fastest one to level up so you can get ahead and crush lowbies who don't have a chance of fighting back. Contesting herbs and mob spawns is fun when you're on the dominant side. If you're being corpse camped and can't play the game, you're not having much fun.When WoW came out, it was novel, and different. People enjoyed it for that reason. Over time, game design gave way to the common sense opinion of "I just want to get shit done and not have to deal with this nolife fag who thinks mass dispelling world buffs from my raid group is hilarious."Furthermore, WoW's concept of factions and every game that copied it has only succeeded in bisecting the playerbase for almost no reason, making organic matchmaking and community formation randomly twice as difficult, and it's a great thing that XIV never fell into that trap.
why dont we just cure the planet with emotion magic
>>743729192I’m just autistic. Sorry for the way I write.
>>743729112post elezen
>>743731556>novelWoW was more baby mode than the MMOs that came before it. There were no PvE servers in those games and when you got killed you lost XP. This is the way MMOs were and should have stayed. WoW didn't begin getting the modern design until late into it's life and it had the most players during Wrath when none of these systems I mentioned were even implemented. If the game can become that successful while having the bare minimum then why did they change it even more? For a dwindling playerbase that was already fed up with their bullshit? It clearly didn't bring any new blood in as the game is worse than it's ever been in terms of player count. So the changes meant nothing and proves that people like the friction. Sure it sucks sometimes, but it's fun other times. Dark Souls sucks when you're new and it takes you 30+ tries to just kill a single boss, but that friction is what makes the joy so much stronger. There is no joy in playing XIV unless you are heavily invested in their crummy story and there are plenty of other JRPGs out there with 10x better writing and stories because they don't need to plan for the game being updated with new story for over a decade. Hell any other final fantasy game has a better story than XIV.
>>743731892I’m on vacation and away from computer, so can’t sorry.But she’s just mother miounne with raven hair and light blue eyes.
>>743730297sex with savage buns
3d mmos are for trannies lmao
>>743710135This is just how weebs operate, if you're not correcting for it you need to start
>>743707948The MSQs are just too fucking long every expansion.
>FFXIV was my first FF game, enjoyed it a lot (got to the end of Shadowbringers about 5 years ago, burnt out, then quit)>years later, I actually played through FF1-7>suddenly want to replay XIV, with the knowledge that I'd actually get most of the FF references this timeIt feels dumb making a new account for this, but the base game to Shadowbringers being free now is such an insane steal.Anyway, has anything substantially changed for the main game in the past 5 years? All I've seen is that minor character model update.
>>743732120Maplestory looks like a game that was designed for 7 year-olds, but exclusively 40 year-old groomers/pedos play it.Wait, wait, I just came up with something:>MAPlestory
>>743732212You can play every story dungeon with NPCs now instead of waiting for player queues, there's been some visual overhauls for some early content but not everything, and more job overhauls to a controversy point. Honestly, if you were more of a casual player, you're probably not gonna notice most of the stuff besides some QoL additions.
>>743707948how many fucking times is this identical thread with the identical pic be made?
>>743707948Like who the fuck plays MMO's for gameplay? lolThese games are for social interaction and those kind of people who like looting and turning the game into a job for best gear and min-maxing and stuff. The gameplay itself has never mattered and have never been good. No MMO has actual good gameplay but among them FF14 is one of the best, if not the only one that even tries. Too many troons though.
>>743709959based
>>743732212Shadowbringers is basically a FF3 prequel, it's easy to see it in a very different context after that.I also played the early games after XIV, and stepping out of the tutorial cave in FF3 and hearing the overworld music blew my mind.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9xyV-Rz5Jk
>>743732323>social interaction>entire game forces you into 500 hours of singleplayer content only to shove you into singleplayer end game and expects you to just somehow find a group of competent 7 other players to do the final final stuff meanwhile randoms in the world don't even talk to youOkay lol. The most social interaction I ever got in XIV was when I started using gooner mods and joined a few public syncshells. Before that I was like a ghost who no one ever cared to talk to. Mods are what saved XIV from being irrelevant trash and actually put a social experience into the game.
>>743731728I assume most of Meteion's sister are dead, and Meteion isn't powerful enough on her own.Also we don't know where she is.
>>743732573*sisters
>>743707948The nortubel of final fantasy
>EU fanfest>Extended trailer starts playing>Picrel shows upKINO!?
>>743732821I hope so. I'd love to see shitters cry about it.
>>743732298I see, thanks anon>NPC dungeonsProbably not for me, unless the queues are obscene. The playerbase was nice enough>job overhaulsWell some were kind of shit, so maybe that could be a good thing for me. Also yes I was casual, my main focus eventually became collecting all the Triple Triad cards (that shit was fun)>>743732421Yeah it's my hope to experience things differently after playing the old games, maybe I'd get more references. Like I didn't even know Gilgamesh was a recurring character.
>>743732821Woops I posted the wrong character!
>>743732821Would be funny if he turns out to be a trauma-induced hallucination that mocks the WoL for being a hypocrite
>>743732913sorta a dickass ardbert?
>>743732913get this fucker out of our heads
The game would be amazing if they let you level normally by doing quests and dungeon spamming, but no, you must play 10 years worth of boring story in dead zones without a single player in them because that's what the out of touch manchild known as Yoshi-P thinks you should do.
>>743732821Tranny post
>>743732889Sphene is the new Nanamo, so she'll show up when we need numbers eventually
>>743732993trannies hate him though so you're just projecting
>>743711961Dumpy died when owo went pay to play and then became mostly useless because its IPs all get blocked and the ones that do get through get their posts shadowrealmed and never reach the thread
>>743732984It's so they can force smart people to buy skips, but the smart people decided that the game just wasn't worth playing lmao.
>>743733015tranny cope
>>743732889speen is great.
My friend unironically said it does get good after 100+ hours, but he also said it's unethical to recommend a game based on that
>>743727352Just got that done last weekNow the real grind to 500k all beginsI wish the mastery missions for DoH were as good as the ones for DoL for score grinding, got all 3 gatherers to 500k in one sitting because of how retarded those are with class point rewards
>>743733284>unethicalYou make it sound like a warcrime
>>743733316He did use that exact word but I dunno what else you would call it to make it less dramatic. I guess just go with "stupid"We had long discussions about the length of JRPGs and basically just have a difference of opinion. I love JRPGs but I'd rather play 5 different games at 40 hours each than play one for 200 hours
>>743732984>dungeon spammingMental illness
>>743727352Is it the fucking waterfall fishing one?If so, good luck lolThis motherfucker right here will NEVER bite unless the stars align
>>743733382JRPGs average around the 40-50 hour mark though, maybe 30 back before the PS1.Shit going past 80+ hours is reserved for completionist autism or Dragon Quest 7
>>743732263your guildmates probably have pronouns in bio while mine are bad Asian bitches who barely speak English
>>743733573I don't wanna turn this into a blogpost, but in this specific case it is mostly because my friend got bigly into the Trails series and spends like 100+ hours on each one. He does talk to all the NPCs apparently
>>743733602Oh yeah there's no helping the Falcom autists. I don't know why they're all like that but just going through the stories of those games isn't that long either.
>>743733382I think it's best to go into the game with no expectations whatsoever.I did it like that, and it was actually me liking my character so much that kept me playing.Discovering that the story just gets better and better was just a nice surprise after I was already commited.
>>743728037nice fucking Groomer tier line idiot.
>>743733598not that guy but a good chunk of the modbeast playerbase are zoomer foids that spread their legs for anyone
>>743733316Time is the one resource you can never have more of. Taking someone's time is effectively taking their life.
>>743733741never allow women into your guild unless they can handle mechanics, you'd be surprised how often these dumb bitches try to cost off being a girl in a male oriented space to get thier carries and gear. Seen way too many guilds fall apart because women are a part of the equation.
>>743733693Only a few and far between, at least on /xivg/ anyways, like that one asian girl who started an onlyfans after gaining clout as her modbeast Aura. But even in the wild I only met a few foid modbeasts, almost all of them were men who either liked controlling a cute slutty girl or wanted to become a cute slutty girl.
>>743733786>hes been in multiple simp guildssounds like youre a simp too.
>>743733786You can have 1 woman, but only if they barely speak and are already in a relationship with someone else in the guild (who isn't in a position of power). Another female in the mix and things become catty and chaotic and even the good silent girl will begin doing some trashy heinous things because women are all attention vipers.
>>743715297people also claim that MSQ is mandatory because it teaches you how to raid or some shit... i still remember how I learned about Twintania's divebombs after watching the Sultana get poisoned. That guide was immaculate
>>743733816arleast not in 14 but in WoW it was wayyyyyyy too common, If I see it now I automatically leave the guild because I already know and in 14 its only been three times atleast.
>>743707948This is such a joke, it never works like so. If you didn't like the game in the first couple of hours, there's no reason to continue playing it, it won't get better to the point you'll like it. I loved this game from the moment I saw a title screen. Then the character creation, then the world design, the music, the combat - I got hooked immediately. Funnily enough though, I've never cared about the story, I was skipmaxxing every single cutscene. So yeah, hope you've learned your lesson, forcing yourself to play a game is stupid.
There was once an Arthars clip where he reminisced about an old IRL friend who played with him back during the 2.0 launch. He said that friend later logged in for patch 2.2, saw the new tomestones, timegates, etc. and immediately dropped it permanently. He saw the writing on the wall. The rest of us were too stupid, I guess. And unfortunately, the game has never really changed. I think the only thing we really ever had going for us was the job/encounter designs of 3.X and 4.X, but then Shadowbringers brought about the sweeping homogenization and simplication garbage and that was that. I still played it at the time because my friends were there. But, I finally realized how bad things were. Add a mediocre MCU-style story, and here we are today.
>>743732537it's a reverse psychology thing Yoshi-Peak thought it'd work wonders. first they starve you for social interactions for hundreds of hours playing MSQ so when you encounter another miserable and socially starved player like you, you start talking because you need to let it out
>>743734656Its basically the same structure as DQX's story experience. Almost everything that ARR didn't lift from WoW can be traced over to DQ.
>>743734638>He saw the writing on the wall...10 years of economic growth and ffxiv basically being half of squeenix revenue?
>>743733786Well only troons play this game so that’s a non issue
>>743734858It is a money maker, yes, but I think you're missing the point here. I'm not arguing that Square haven't built an attractive online game a large number of people play. What I'm saying is I think the game never really evolved, and its design stagnated into being a barebones playground for casual gamers to waste away in. The current-day state of things with the Second Life stuff is probably the biggest evidence of that.
>>743734981You say the game never evolve, but in your argument you bring up how they changed the gameplay in ShB. You use the term "homogenization" to give it a negative connotation, but factually you admit to them changing how things work
>>743735134bodied that freak.
>>743735134Tearing apart your combat system and removing skill expression isn't evolution. It's regression. Change comes in multiple forms, saying "well they changed it!" is reductive because it leaves out the details of what actually happened. There's no excusing, for example, what became of the Summoner job.
>>743707948>80 hoursSee, there's your problem. You need to play at least 700 hours before it starts to get good.
I suppose i want to throw in a story as a passive lurker. Especially to people who say XIV is bad as a first timers mmo. XIV was my first mmo, i loaded it up after a bunch of friends started playing it in late 2021. I never liked mmos, tried WoW as a kid, played Tera for about 300 hours in college, etc. I decided to give XIV an honest chance and made a lalafel thaumaturge. I told the merchant in the opening cutscene that i was there to get wealthy, and played into that. When i found out teleporting costs money i stopped doing it, i spent the entirety of arr walking everywhere. I had a mental map of eorzea that i still remember to this day. During heavensward i started exploring crafting and gathering, if i got bored or needed a break from the msq i went and did that. When i finished heavensward a friend wanted to help me clear Thordan extreme but was always busy, so i cleared it myself by, i'm not kidding, using duty finder. Even got the mount from that clear. I know many people can think of good stories from their first time playing other mmos, but XIV to me has always been different because it always felt like it made an honest attempt to anchor me into the world in ways no other mmo really cared to do. Maybe that's my personal experience, maybe i just prefer the msq structure. However i tried WoW last year, Classic and Retail. Dropped it under two months, anyone trying to paint xiv as having unique problems with overworld content or city afkers or whatever does not fucking play either game. XIV is not a perfect game, but it feels like a game that wants you to engage with it. I've had my issues with their dev decisions as well, but i'll take an earnest if misplaced attempt over whatever soulless slop blizzard wants to pump into their game. And personally, i'm excited for 8.0.
>>743709343In a game with as much content as FFXIV has, you're going to have a lot of kino and a lot of shitshows. You simply can't make a decade of content without have some shit stirred in. Anyone that things otherwise has ridiculous standards. Even Shadowbringers, for example (which is generally recognized as pure kino), has that whole "lol we're all warriors of darkness!" storyline in the post-MSQ content which is one of the most pants-on-head retarded plots the game has vomited out.90% of the game is not good, not bad, not worth remembering. Just alright. And there's really nothing wrong with that. It's still hours of entertainment for $14/month. People just like whining.
Same thread Same postsSame schizosTake it away Vauthry
>>743709343>objectively not a good gameYou're a stupid underage faggot. Learn what "objectively" means.
>>743735502So you have the patience to watch janky in engine cutscenes with no voices where you have to read, but don't have the patience to read quest text in WoW to get anchored to the world? And you think XIV anchors you to the world when every zone besides current content and major cities is empty as fuck devoid of any human connection? Please, anon. You're just a pedophile. I 100% know you played Elin in tera and the only reason you sunk 300 hours was because of that decision. Lalafells are disgusting subhumans all of em.
>>743715297You don't need skips. You can do the MSQ in 2 days per expansion. I've done it around 25 times (?) to make retainer farms on different DCs. I'd have to check how many characters I have all over the place. But the MSQ can be completed in 2 days per expansion as a benchmark, plus it doesn't hamstring your character into missing a bunch of shit that you need checklist to go back and find.
>>743734638>Believing Arthas
>>743735583Janitor applications are closed
>>743735502>2021Stopped reading after that, newfags aren't welcome.
>>743711643go play second life then you degenerate fuckwit. all of you freaks need to be banned.
>>743735871I just stopped playing the game because it was boring shit and full of trannies and after 2 seconds of Wuk Lamat I wanted to strangle YoshiPiss.
>>743707948FF14's main game is a visual novel with some minigame elements. It's so bad that in fact actual visual novels have more choices and pathways than FF14 does, which has none.
>>743736038oksex with cat
>>743709468I'm not saying FFXIV is amazing, but trying to say WoW is any better is fucking stupid. They're both terrible. To make matters worse, it's a dying genre in general. I can say that because I started my MMO gaming with EQ back in 1997. Playing that shit on dial-up. The days of having 80 buttons plastered all over the screen are over. It's a genre that needs to evolve and no one seems to be taking that seriously.
>4 days until someone opens a thread with the new job saying "FFXIV is saved"Threads are predictable as their content schedule.
>>743735717I could bring up all the reasons WoW lost me despite questing all the way up to wrath. However you're a foaming at the mouth retard seething about someone finding lalafells funny looking so honestly just neck yourself.>>743735781Fuck you too
>>743736416I'm not saying GW3 will be our saviorbut at least he's bringing booze
>>743736475>they recoil when you discover what they are
im having fun playing gw2 desu
>>743707948It DOES get better after ARR, but not by much. The story is peak FF though when it focuses on the empire, the ascians, and the primals, otherwise it's a goddamn slog. I'm pretty sure you could crop and condense the main quests down to maybe 40-50 quests maximum.>>743718839I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT CUNTS ON TWITTER ARE DOING>>743718935Nothing destroys a community faster than PvP. The issue is that PvPers make it their entire personality and the streamer ones will get their goons to report-bomb you if you even look at them funny. I'm glad it's segregated.
>>743736416>eq>97Eq released mid 1999
>>743736671Don't remind me I need gob
>>743736671As someone who has like 3k hours or something and full legendary with multiple legendary weapons, the cracks will start to show eventually. It's pretty bad but glad you're having fun.
>>743718748ARR doesn’t take hundreds of hours. Barely 50 and that’s if you’re extremely slow. It’s about 8-16 hours max. Thats including queue times for mandatory dungeons and instances.
>>743737313Going at an absolutely glacial pace and getting distracted i beat ARR in around 112ish hours. My friends playing around the time finished the entire msq in around maybe 120 hours. Hyperbole is a hell of a drug though when you jusr want to be mad.
>>743728124>>743729262They usually try healing magic in cutscenes to show it doesn't work because the wound is too great, FFV style. Besides you never go full Amdapor.
>>743737281>the cracks will start to show eventuallyoh i already dont like stuff like the writing, i just like that i can collect things and dont have to pay a sub and there are sluts walking around
Xiv hasn't been good since heavensward. Might as well play retail wow if you want real autism raiding
I played this game for 1k+ hoursI regret ithow to get refund on the time I lost?
ONE BRINGS GARNET, ONE BRINGS SPHENE
>new smartphone mod with all sorts of apps and shit with twitter and instagram and tinderThis is gonna go well
>>743728632I've see some of that guy's videos, god he is such a massive faggot
>paying a monthly sub fee for a game with outdated MMO tab target gameplay, bloated, irrelevant "content," instanced housing, a large trans player base and a fucking cash shopI'll never understand FFXIV.
>>743737920The Limsa discord humour audience will love it
>>743735713Despite his retardation I don't see what review scores have to do with objectivity.
>>743738241>outdated MMO tab target gameplayWhy do gachafags/tourists out themselves instantly? You don't play MMOs, fuck off.
>>743738517I've never played a gacha in my life, and I've been playing MMOs since I first started on UO back in 99. If you weren't a retarded faggot, maybe you could've deduced that from the complaint about instanced housing.
Let's all give a round of applause to OPHe kept his shift running and kept the thread alive the WHOLE TIMEVery impressive!
>>743707948Gameplay is a 90s concept that should've stayed in the 90s
>>743738241>outdated MMO tab target gameplayIt's an MMO, and it's an MMO designed to run on the fucking Playstation 3, what do you expect>bloated, irrelevant "content,"What does this even mean, you have to progress through nearly everything so nearly everything remains relevant to new or returning players>instanced housingSo what, I played for nearly a year and never, ever engaged with the housing system, why does this hurt you>a large trans player baseStop letting some terminally online weirdos warp your view of online communities. 99% of the playerbase does not engage with Twitter, Reddit, or /v/, they're just normies who silently play the game>and a fucking cash shopName one MMO in current year without a cash shop (even OSRS has bonds, ie official RWT)
I can't buy a bbc dildo because I live with my parents, what can I use to plap my failorbs?
>>743707948this is every game I've ever played after 10 hours
>>743737870TWO TIME MONARCH'S STROKING MY PEEN
>>743737920>use videogames as escapism from real life>normgroids bring real life shit into my escapismWhy are they like this? Normalfaggots ruin everything they touch
>>743710135The universally accepted litmus test is heavensward, if you don't like that on some level, there's no point sticking with the game, nobody says the other stuff after that
this is how we blippy it
>>743709468>Yeah I don't see how anyone could compare this to WoWLike this:WoW is complete dogshit, FFXIV at least has a good story. Hope that helps, raidtranny :)
are we getting the benchmark this weekend?
>>743743261nah, probably sometime after JP fanfest
>>743743261Benchmark is normally 2~ months out from launch. DT was early because they upped the system requirements with the graphic update.
is the full trailer gonna be shown this weekend or will that be on the JP fest
>>743745694nope, it's gonna be what we saw at NA + another short snippet that probably shows off a new classFull trailer doesn't get shown until JP
>>743715530I love reaction checking people with Air Anchor into limit break snipe. It always works.
How the fuck is the switch 2 version gonna work with the free trial? I know I'd like the form factor on switch 2 the best but if the nintendo tax invalidates the huge free trial I might as well not wait and just start on pc instead.
>>743747417no idea.I know the game doesn't require NSO, and it only needs the sub, but I have no idea if that means you'll be able to play the free trial without NSOI'd hope it doesn't need itAlso, if you already play on another platform, you need to pay a different sub because Nintendo Tax
>>743747643to my knowledge it doesn't *have* a free trial after the "beta test" whenever that goes up
>>743747964fug, guess I'll go with pc then. Switch 2 sounded comfy
>>743709724the only """"harder"""" reward that i was ever interested in were some artifact recolors being gated behind EX, so bottom since he's cool
