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Why is everything a remake now?
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>>743709402
In the case of EoSD specifically, ZUN lost the source code for the first three windows games which is why they were the only ones not ported to Steam.
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>>743709469
I heard that they are using the reverse engineered copy by some modders
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>>743709402
im pretty sure its including the original version within the remake so im not upset
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creativity is dead
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>>743709402
no one can make new GOOD(very important distinction) stuff anymore, so the next best thing is practicing necromancy on things from the past
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>>743709402
Have you played all of the classics?
No?
Well then we really don't need new games.
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>>743709402
Western studios for the life of them cannot make unique games anymore. You can blame many modern devs being those who wanna make movie games, pozzed crap, or its ran by HR.
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>>743709402
Because you need to please risk averse investors.
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>>743709776
nyu~
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>>743709776
>>743710056
nyu
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>>743709402
This actually did need a remake. Or at the very least a re-release because it's a pain in the ass to get running on modern hardware nowadays.
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>>743709402
Theyve ran out of games to make
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>>743710160
What you don't like playing it at Infinity FPS. Don't you know more FPS means its better.
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>>743709402
Remakes are cheaper to make and can draw in new fans while the next mainline title is being worked on. Square acknowledged they struggle to bring in new fans for DQ and FF because it takes a decade to make a new entry. Someone who was ten years old when DQ XI came out will be a legal adult whenever DQ XII drops. Remakes help to bridge that gap and bring in a new generation of fans.
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AI lets everyone shit out junk for zero effort
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>>743710160
I ran it just fine tho...
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>>743709402
Games are too damn expensive to make now, so everything that isn't a well-established AAA series is in perpetual "testing the waters" phase until it is absolutely sure a sequel will be a success.
Also because gaming audiences are aging and it's easier to sell them repackaged nostalgia than new games, especially since a lot of gamers are now innately distrustful of anything new (and to be fair you can't really blame them for that).
>>743709776
Nyo
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>>743709402
Zun has been making these games since the 90s.
He's tired. Let him rest, sell a few cheap remakes. he's done enough.
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>>743710890
Touhou 20 used AI so I wouldn't be surprised if it was used here as well. At least ZUN is a real indie dev (as opposed to "indie" devs with the backing of large corporations) so the time save is real for him I guess
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>>743709402
Progressive ideology like all tyrannical ideologies has stifled creativity. As such most of these companies have little to offer other than rehashing old creative efforts.
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>>743709402
The older Windows games actually need them.
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>>743709402
End stage capitalism
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>>743714023
At most they need a straight port using DX11 so people don't have to use community fixes for them
The only Touhou games that deserve a proper remaster or remake are the PC-98 games, and ZUN will never ever acknowledge those games again
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Everything has been a remake since 2012
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>>743715804
EoSD at least badly needed a remake, it's a game too bogged down by a bunch of stupid quirks and bad stage design to be truly considered great. It could've been a definitive top 3, but as it stands now it's somewhere in the top 8 at best.
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>>743709402
It makes money. And a lot of it.
Why would you bother making a new product and take a chance it would make money when you can just sell the same old thing "but better" to retards and make guaranteed cash?
It's the same thing with movies. Every movie nowadays is the fucking same shit, why would anyone deviate from the norm when the norm makes consistent money?
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>>743716108
>EoSD at least badly needed a remake, it's a game too bogged down by a bunch of stupid quirks and bad stage design to be truly considered great.
Damn anon, that's a horrendously bad opinion.
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>>743709402
>>743709469
Also older XP/7 games are starting to have compatibility issues on W10 and 11.
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>>743717081
he's right, eosd is a terrible game
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>>743717081
But I'm not wrong? How is it a bad opinion?
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Star Citizen.
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>>743709402
I don't know, maybe because there's a new generation of gamers? Stop being a loser who cries about their childhood games getting released and start a family
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>>743715804
PC-98 is garbage though, nobody but hipster trannies are asking for it anyway, and even if they did get it they'd cry about it since the games are trash
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>>743716996
I can tell you've never played a game
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>>743709402
The activation of the Hadron Collider created a spiritual hole in the metaphysical barrier protecting this causality and a True Manifold used the opening to feast on all the succulent creativity herein. Eventually the sheer banality level will cause a full rupture and the soul harvest can commence.
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>>743717081
anon when was the last time you actually played eosd
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>>743709776
you CAN'T just say that, Puchiko
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>>743717883
Wrong. Lotus Land Story and Mystic Square are capital G good. They'd be even better with windows-era conveniences.
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for most studios, because it's safer to remake something everyone knows is good already than it is too gamble on something new, for ZUN? idk maybe he just wanted a more accessible touhou 6
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>>743712401
>Games are too damn expensive to make now
games being expensive to make is literally the fakest fucking excuse imaginable, no one is forcing devs to have 136781263781k graphics, hiring a-list celebrities as voice actors, motion capturing every single piece of animation using real trained actors. they have full control on how much money they have to spend on video games, they just decided to torture themselves.
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>>743709402
Because consumers will pay for recognized IPs consistently but extremely rarely take risks on unknown IPs. Slay The Spire 2 has sold millions upon millions of copies JUST off of being a sequel to Slay The Spire, meanwhile there are equally good games buried in the pile of 500 deckbuilder roguelikes that pretty much nobody tries because "I dunno if it'll be good since it's unknown".
STS 2 has 65K reviews after being in very early access for a few months.
Wildfrost has 5K reviews since 2023 despite being a very good unique deckbuilder that is finished and got major updates addressing the little issues it had at launch.
Griftlands has 5K reviews since 2021 despite being a very good deckbuilder that also has larger story and roleplaying focus in the main mode. It even has 2 different deckbuilder combat systems with very different gameplay so it isn't as samey as many other deckbuilders.
Cross Blitz is at a criminal 1500 reviews since 2025 and that lack of momentum cripples it. It's on sale for under $6 right now and only has 20 reviews from the past month. It has 5 full campaign story modes where you unlock different cards to build with from beating enemies, on top of a full roguelike mode with 20 fully fleshed out character options.
I've put over 100 hours into all 3 of those games and hold them all as fantastic titles, but it doesn't really matter how good a game is if it doesn't blow up in popularity and become recognizable. People will buy sequels and remakes without a thought but won't consider new IPs most of the time. I bought STS2 because of course I did as a fan of this genre, but after playing it for a few days it barely felt fresh because so much of it is the same as STS1, so I went back to play more Cross Blitz. There are masterpieces in probably every genre that get overlooked because consumers don't buy them.
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>>743718426
>no one is forcing devs to have 136781263781k graphics, hiring a-list celebrities as voice actors, motion capturing every single piece of animation using real trained actors.
The stockholders and investors do
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>>743718283
Poorly made, unfinished garbage given Windows-era conveniences they'd be playable but still forgettable at best. I get the feeling you only know about it from the music or the wiki considering how obviously poorly slapped together and not playtested LLS and MS was
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>>743712401
Then explain why only japanese do this while chinese and korean thriving?
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>>743709402
Do you remember how many remakes you've played?
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>>743718517
weird comparison, 2hu doesn’t have mainstream appeal its a shmup.
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>>743718605
Are you sure you're not confusing both with the previous PC-98 games? MS is entirely serviceable, hardly unfinished garbage.
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>>743718862
Yumeko is impossible and if you can LNN her with Yuuka, you're cheating simple as. It's unfinished garbage
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>>743718856
2hu is the only shmup with any appeal lmao. The hipster shmuptrannies who hate it don't even play their own games.
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>>743719026
Every game has its shot type that handicaps you compared to the others, hardly something that is PC-98 exclusive. Just pick the other ones that work well. Yumeko is tough but ultimately can be learned because she has some form of pattern to her madness.
>LNN
I don't judge games by self-imposed challenge runs that only 0.001% of the population will even bother seriously attempting. For 99.999% of all other cases you are allowed to use bombs
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>>743709402
Everything must be censored and made lame (casual, by another name) and literally gay for woke zoomzooms, who are bitter and jealous after hearing "uncs" talk about "the good old days", because they realize basically all new games really do suck ass and, since most zoomzooms are very susceptible to FOMO due to being raised on hypebeast faggotry, they want to destroy series.
Thus they get very upset and constantly BEG for demasters/demakes, etc., because they know the entire point of demasters/demakes is to replace the "problematic" original, especially public consciousness of it, with the new, sterilized version.
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>>743715804
PoFV needs it the most, no proper netplay really hurts it. PCB has broken UI if you do any scoring and IN needs a rebalance of the solo shots, like make Sakuya solo not complete garbage ffs.
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>>743718778
0
Fucking none. Ever.
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>>743718862
The game literally breaks in some places and has dogshit balancing
The only reason people like PC-98 is because it has the shitty humor that the annoying AGP troons of today love, but instead of admitting that they pretend like the games weren't just slapped together for ZUN's beer money
>>743719257
One more paragraph might make you a real woman
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>>743718223
Now post the Rabbit of Honesty and Sincerity
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>>743709402
People don't buy enough new shit for shareholders and the like to warrant experimenting on "risky ventures" so people take the "This worked so do it again but prettier" route which has been shown to be much more successful in comparison. Creativity is barely rewarding in media nowadays where it matters to stock holders and companies.
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Why do you dumb fags think that the EoSD remake is anything more than an improved port on modern systems? I feel like none of you know what to talk about and are trying to doomfag from nothing.
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>>743717963
I've played video games for the first time when I was 6 and I haven't skipped a day since.
I am 37.
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>>743718605
I'm not gonna lie, almost all of the PC-98 music blends together for me and I've been listening to the whole series' OST for over a decade now. I can only recall Strawberry Crisis and Infinite Being.
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>>743719257
>censored and casaulized
Neither of these are true in this case
It is the exact same gameplay just in 60fps and none of the art is "censored". Though I wonder, what even is there to be censored?
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>>743719753
Exactly because it's forgettable, uninspired trash
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>>743719494
Game-breaking bugs and questionable balancing is not unique to MS. Do I have to remind you that shit like MoF MarisaB exists? If that's your criteria then the vast majority of the windows games are unfinished garbage
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>>743709402
I'd rather a remake than a reforge
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>>743719243
>Waawaaa, why are you trying to dodge in a game about dodging? Stop being sweat ahhh. You're such a sweat. No one bothers with that
Retard
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>>743719779
Weren't some low IQ shmuptrannies seething about the infinite lives mode? They were going to use continues anyway, like who fucking cares lol
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>>743719917
Okay? Then don't fucking use it. This whole thread is just mad over nothing.
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>>743718856
you can say the same for roguelike deckbuilders. the couple big ones like STS are big, none of the rest ever get big.
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>>743719826
Not to the degree of PC-98, and at least the Windows games have memorable enough characters, good enough music and design to compensate for that. Literally all PC-98 characters are bland, uninspired and the same, the stories and themes of the games are also not much significant at all. But again I wouldn't expect you to know this.
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>>743719870
LNNs will never be taken seriously except for the few dozen or so tryhards who wouldn't be too out of place at GDQ. Sorry if that makes you feel bad.
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>>743719753
And which one's your favorite? Mine is Complete Darkness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glGtklFzZ2k
>>743719808
Excuse me?
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>>743720034
Shitty boring music with some tracks here and there that are just okay.
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>>743720034
for me it's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UZJbdvHKSI
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>>743720034
Strawberry Crisis encapsulates the despair I feel when dying to Yumemi on Lunatic for the 4th time
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>>743719982
Not to the degree of PC-98 and yet it exists anyway. That's even worse, given ZUN's had more than a decade of experience at that point and was working full-time, versus PC-98 when he was a literal college student. The latter is understandable, the former isn't.
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>>743720123
Damn anon, that's another horrendously bad opinion again.
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>>743720170
>Not to the degree of PC-98
So you admit that it's low effort unfinished garbage?
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>>743720267
So you admit windows era is low effort unfinished garbage?
I only use your own criteria against you, your words not mine.
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>>743720235
Complete Darkness starts off good and sounds like keyboard smashing, I can see why he wants to forget PC98
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>>743709402
big companies are increasingly more risk averse but still want big bucks for their products so they just recycle and remix already established stuff. This is an issue across all of current entertainment. If you want creativity then you have to look indie or underground
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>>743720320
No because I can still play the Windows game fully lol also the Windows era still has better characters, music and story so there's that. Pc-98trannies only know 3 characters and 2 are because of reddit memes.
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>>743709402
Modern ZUN is garbage.
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>>743720267
>>743720320
The only game that is literally unfinished low effort garbage is Highly Responsive to Prayers because ZUN just needed a game to showcase his music on.
He had no series or franchise to care about, he had no reason to care about the game part. He only needed a medium.
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>>743719318
why do you think ZUN won't implement a dogshit netplay?
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>>743719961
I'm not disagreeing with you. The average shmuptranny will melt down over anything
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>>743720453
He followed the same idea for the PC-98 era since the music was the only good part of it, I don't blame him for wanting to leave it in the dust
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>>743719917
It seems like the people who need infinite lives are the ones who complain because they feel their grind was wasted. Shmup chads just won't use it if they don't need it
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>>743718618
Gacha money.
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>>743720412
Something being better in some categories doesn't mean the other is automatically bad. I obviously favor the windows era games but the later PC-98 games are good for what they are. You can appreciate a Honda S2000 even if it's no Ferrari Enzo.
You sound young, I hope you take this as a learning lesson for the future. There's still a lot more you can learn.
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>>743709776
OH MY GOD LOIS IT'S BROCCOLI-CHAN FROM THE HYPERDIMENSION NEPTUNIA SERIES! HI BROCCOLI-CHAN!
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>>743720679
No anon, you don't get it. Those old cranking cars from bygone eras were worthless and pointless and never should have existed because nowadays we have automatics.
That's the logic some people apply to remakes too btw.
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>>743720679
No the PC98 games are shit because they're coded like shit, balanced like shit, play like shit AND lack the endearing qualities of the Windows games trannt
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>>743720593
>It seems like the people who need infinite lives are the ones who complain because they feel their grind was wasted
It's the other way around, why would they care? Most of the people who would need infinite lives will play through the game once and drop it. It's just credit feeding in a different light.
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>>743720679
I love Megumu
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>>743720831
Why? She's such a "whatever" hu
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>>743720809
You sound like a woman.
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>>743718223
I fucking hate you, black tewi. I really really do.
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Wanna know who doesn't even LOOK like a woman? LOL!
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>>743720874
Because she's tall and blue.
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>>743720152
>that title
didn't know zun used to be this based
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>>743721062
Referring to the Romantic era, tranny pedophile secondary.
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>>743721062
You exist to serve ZUN like the pathetic goyim human fleshlight you are he'd probably be disgusted at your existence and replace you with a better fucktoy.
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>>743721129
makes sense thanks, you don't have to add your own signature to the end of your posts by the way
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>>743721019
There's probably a lot hus who fit that category
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>>743721062
>based
i can tell you're Indonesian
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>>743721183
>
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>>743721194
Yeah, and I like them all.
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>>743721215
i don't even know where that is on a map
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give me your rumia fumo
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>>743721062
ZUN named this song in English but since he's an ESL I'm guessing he thought Romantic meant of the Romance era/countries. Same kind of deal with Lunatic Princess, Luna (of the moon) + tic.
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>>743721294
Why is the text on this image inverted? Shouldn't
>They're fun facts about me
be on the bottom?
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>>743721351
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>>743721379
Well I mean, Lunatic Princess does make sense. The association with the moon is clear enough and ZUN has admitted that Kaguya is fucking insane. Not with those words of course but its all there.
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extremely vocal whiny millennial bitches own the online discourse and zoomers just follow along with the whole "old=good/new=bad" mantra.
oxymoronically millennial crying has also lead to the modern entertainment we have being made now. millennials don't know shit, they just want their childhoods again. and their childhood entertainment (made by older generations) happens to be better than the modern entertainment they socially clamor for.
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>>743721351
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>>743721503
I do not.
>>743721624
happy cutie
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>>743721390
You can reject a claim after saying what they are, anoj. There's more than one way to cat a skin.
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>>743721581
Didn't read.
>old=good/new=bad
This but unironically.
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wch firy wud u prone bone
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>>743721379
God bless him for trying, a lot of the English in the series is unique stuff.
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>>743720829
>It's the other way around, why would they care?
I don't know, but a lot of people act tough or desperate just to be "respected" in a community, even though they don't really care about the community's actual purpose
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>>743720152
for me it's
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MysZ54LHZL8
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>>743721721
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>>743721390
either order is perfectly coherent and grammatically sound, but if you want a joke to land then you usually don't want to lead with the punchline.
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>>743721721
the strongest one
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>>743709402
Because people buy it.
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>>743721721
Obviously Star Sapphire. Great Fairy Wars is an excellent game by the way, you ought to play it if you haven't.
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>>743721721
Star Sapphire looks a lot like my imouto now and I don't like it.
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>>743721697
What?
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>>743721798
I cleared normal + extra
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>>743721531
When is she described as insane
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>>743721721
Didn't this artist draw porn at some point?
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>>743721798
I can't play games the torment and dread doesn't stop creeping in.
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>>743721771
how is clappy so damn erotic
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>>743709402
We all want to go back.
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>>743721735
Howdy!
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>>743721829
What I'm trying to say is Kosuzu should've died.
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>>743709402
>>743709776

Art forms cycle through eras of innovation and eras of performance.

Consider yourself lucky, we just had a decade of 'innovation' and it was dogshit.
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>>743721885
Kill yourself pedophile
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>>743721885
I'd put my face in there if given the opportunity.
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>>743721881
Only FGO smut of Abigail, so it doesn't count.
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>>743721837
Not bad... not bad..
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>>743721872
>When is she described as insane
She's not.
I don't remember the article or words from the top of my head but ZUN said something like.
>I wanted Kaguya to come out as rather delusional and insane in her ways
Or something like that.
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>>743721885
When did this place become full of SEA shitskins?
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>>743709402
>>743709402
>Why is everything a remake now?
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>>743721885
Inherited her mother's genes.
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>>743722007
always has been
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>>743721934
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>>743721009
mokou's itty bitty eternally teen titties
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Realistically speaking what SHOULD they change for the EoSD remake?
Not really what you expect to happen, just what they should change to make objective improvements
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>>743721934
>Kosuzu should've died
I'm really glad she didn't. It's great the story didn't turn that way.
I fucking hate Grimsokyo
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>>743722113
Akyuu should be in Higan pencil pushing for Eiki by now, the little liver-stealing whore.
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>>743722238
>Reimu if she SANS (Sreimu After Not Surviving)
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>>743722170
>Realistically speaking what SHOULD they change for the EoSD remake?
An ideal remake shouldn't change anything but graphics. That's the entire discussion in this thread I think.
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>>743716108
> it's a game too bogged down by a bunch of stupid quirks and bad stage design
Unfortunately for you its a faithful remake down to the stage design and even recreating the glitching according to their release interview.

>>743712545
This one surprisingly doesn't, ZUN actually had very little directly to do with it because it was some of his friends and his wife redrawing everything from scratch after he found the original EoSD artwork on a CD. I hope he uploads those originals somewhere, but we're getting the full body sprites for the first time after decades.
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>>743709776
That implies EOSD was ever creative in the first place. Rather than being a collection of tropes and ideas vaguely shoved together in a manner that only somewhat resembles a coherent plot or idea.

Still the best Touhou btw.
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>>743722278
What the- The Kyuun never stole anything in her life!
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>>743722381
You're talking about a remaster. A remake changes way more than just graphics.
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>>743716108
>it's a game too bogged down by a bunch of stupid quirks and bad stage design to be truly considered great.
It's still better than PCB and only slightly worse than IN.
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>>743722170
The only thing they're changing is adding a visible hitbox and the infinite lives mode. I dont recall if they said anything about easy mode still cucking you on stage 5 but I imagine that's still in.
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>>743722449
>That implies EOSD was ever creative in the first place. Rather than being a collection of tropes and ideas vaguely shoved together in a manner that only somewhat resembles a coherent plot or idea.
But that's exactly what makes it good
>Spoiler
Oh.
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>>743722453
She should've died back in 2020-2021, but she's still alive and kicking. The only reasonable explanatiin is she stole and ate Mokou's or Kaguya's liver!
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>>743718426
>no one is forcing devs to have 136781263781k graphics
This is the same board that complains about Pokemon games looking several generations behind, complained about the latest GTA6 footage not looking as good as the trailers, complains about Squenix overusing the cheap HD 2D aesthetics, and also complains that every single indie always goes for low budget retro graphics instead of using art styles that require more of a budget.
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>>743722468
Call it whatever you want. No game should ever be "remade" past graphics.
Hell, even graphics is pushing it. Just play the original you fucking monster.
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>>743722486
EoSD is easily the worst out of the original 3.
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>>743722583
this image is amazing
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>>743709402
>I can finally play 2hu handheld and with a joystick too
Thank God for remakes
Somethings source ports and emulators just can never do
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>>743722583
I wouldn't trust that sex fox as my lawyer
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>>743722592
RE Remake proves you wrong.
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>>743722612
That's PCB.

>Stage 3-5 might as well not even exist while stage 4 is the longest one in the entire game.
>Difficulty curve is a steep cliff.
>Youmu fight is a annoying chore without even being fun like Reisen or Sakuya.
>Yuyuko fight is much more bland than Remilia or Kaguya/Eirin despite being hard as balls.
>Nobody can even pretend to care about Letty or the ghost sisters.
>Lore was permanently ruined by actually vaguely being about something.
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>>743722278
This image makes it look like Eiki is 8 feet tall when she's basically a midget.
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>>743722504
Might be considered crazy for saying this but EoSD doesn't even need a visible hitbox. I get why they're doing it for consistency reasons but that's it
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EoSD is like 25 years old at this point i dunno why some people are screaming about the remake, its not a The Last of Us situation
>Re-release of a remake of a remaster, HD- 2 years after the original.
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>>743722712
No it doesn't. Wanna know why? Because I didn't play it.
I played the original Resident Evil and know for a fact it doesn't need any remakes or remasters. It is still as good as I remember I'm sure.
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>>743722743
>Youmu fight is a annoying chore without even being fun like Reisen or Sakuya.
What? Youmu is one of my favorite fights with the slowdown mechanic. Her nonspells are kinda boring but whatever.
>Nobody can even pretend to care about Letty or the ghost sisters.
Prismrivers were some of the most popular fucking characters for years, retardbro. I'd be willing to bet it was at least in the top 5 of remixed songs until MoF.
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>>743722810
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO ITS GONNA BE DIFFERENT FROM THE ORIGINAL MY LOW FUNCTIONING AUTISM CANT TAKE IT
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>>743722743
No one caring about the ghost sisters must be a recent thing. When touhou was at peak popularity (late 2000s-early 2010s) they were fairly prominent characters. Also their boss fight is fun, just don't attack Merlin.
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>>743722763
Eiki is tall!
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>>743709402
multiple factors
>cheaper to produce since base work laid out
>game already popular so guaranteed return
>avoidance to risk new projects for lower income/incompetence of dei hires
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>>743722910
>Youmu is one of my favorite fights with the slowdown mechanic.
I might be biased here because I hate fighting her.

>Prismrivers were some of the most popular fucking characters for years
I don't remember that, frankly. Either way their popularity fell off a cliff.
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>>743722958
No she isn't. She is cute and small.
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>>743709402
Why must you always make threads about things I wanna talk about when I need to sleep? Good night anon.
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>>743722743
>>743722910
Decided to look it up myself
>Phantom Ensemble rank by year
2004 - 3
2005 - 5
2007 - 5
2008 - 7
2009 - 8
2010 - 11
2011 - 15
2012 - 12
2013 - 14
2014 - 17
2015 - 14
2016 - 14
2017 - 13
2018 - 13
2019 - 15
2020 - 14

Out of 400+ ranks, very consistently high rated song.
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>>743723404
Propaganda against the Yama
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I like all 2hus, even Highly Responsive to Prayers — a fun game with a lot to master, even if some bosses may be janky. Ten Desires was boring as shit, though.
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>>743722585
>v is 1 person
For AAA games, it's because they still manage to waste the same amount of money only for game to look worse than PS3 graphics.
For indie games, it's just bunch of trolls and retards complaining about something that is not a problem in the first place.
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>>743723702
PC-98 is honestly better than modern Touhou in everything other than execution.

Most of the Pc-98 cast is conceptually more intresting than anybody who appeared in the last ten Touhou games.
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>>743723702
supposedly Ten Desires gets a lot better if you play it at a high level. but I never bothered past normal mode so I can't personally verify, it's just something I've heard
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I like Yassy' art but i don't like his storylines.
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>>743723902
TD is one of the easiest games to lunatic clear imo, probably like 3rd or 4th easiest. Definitely the easiest extra.
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>>743723902
TD has a chaining mechanic with the black spirit orbs but it isn't very noticeable. Most casuals just see the XXC gameplay and brush it off as lame, which I can't really blame them for.
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HSiFS is good, actually.
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>>743709402
ZUN doesn't know how to make games at this point, and the competition for doujinsoft shmups has greatly increased, so now instead of making games he's going to release the few titles people somewhat recognize as nostalgia, and these will still be significantly worse in design than the big indie/doujinsoft shmups popular today, and honestly worse than the lesser known ones too. However, normalfags are incredibly fucking stupid and just consume an endless cycle of remakes they don't even play. The "remake" stick is sort of a fomo thing where they're like "WAIT THAT GAME WAS POPULAR ENOUGH TO BE REMADE??? I REMEMBER SEEING THAT WHEN I WAS A KID". Of course eosd is about as entertaining as watching paint dry, so this will likely just push them away from shmups. Or at least I'd say that but they were never really going to play them anyways, and we'll see a large play count on release, some people flop through easy or normal, and then never touch the game again.
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>>743724884
What's one of the hardest lunatics?
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>>743725280
>ZUN doesn't know how to make games at this point
>t. seething about th20 for arbitrary reasons without playing it
a tale as old as time
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I want a new touhou fightan
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>>743725312
FW > UFO > EoSD
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>>743725280
EoSD is one of the greatest shoot 'em ups of all time. Sorry ZUN made you asshurt.
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>>743725312
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say FW depending on your shot type. That's the true difficulty selection. The demo was a bit harder even.
I still haven't even Hard cleared LoLK so I can't even speak about its Lunatic.
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>>743725328
If crimzon clover is a 10/10, there has never been a touhou game about a 2/10 in quality. No sane person thinks touhou is a beacon of quality in the doujin sphere, which isn't surprising since touhou fans are largely mentally ill.
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>>743725391
Crimzon Clover is good as is Cho Ren Sha 68K.
Even then Touhou is just better.
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>>743725435
Based onitroon finally found the thread
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This >>743725494 was meant for >>743725435
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>>743725435
Little contradictory don't you think? If he doesnt' know how to make games at this point, then he did in the past, but now you say that none of them were even a 2/10.
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>>743725494
There is no touhou game better than Cho Ren Sha. It's an absolute miracle CRS exists and was made in the time period it was. The touhou series is such incredibly low quality and it's a big shame it's pushed as hard as it is, because if people were introduced to shmups through other titles they'd be a lot more popular. And that's going to be my last post in this thread, as it's a waste of time to be in here, and scrolling up it's the same spam as usual.
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>>743725593
Go make another tranny shmup thread to samefag in so the mods can delete it again
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>>743725593
I've played the other SHMUPs after playing through the Touhou games and appreciate them for what they are.
Even then I still gravitate back towards the Touhou games. You are wrong and Touhou has a level of quality and craft that the other SHMUPs simply do not have.
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>>743725391
Going by raw danmaku I'd say FW, LoLK, UFO, and DDC are at the top. DDC has the most schizo shottype balance - ReimuA and SakuyaA make it among the easiest 1ccs and MarisaA and SakuyaB are up there with FW/LoLK.
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>>743725391
FW felt a lot more difficult than the standard fare, though I wonder how much of that is due to being more different than the mainlines in terms of gameplay.
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>>743725593
how assblasted did the 2hu meanies make you in your gay little seethe threads this time?
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Is Rin in it
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>>743725375
Why are you playing like this, is this your first shmup? Do you not understand how dodging works
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>>743725931
Did you see my comment on Youtube
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>>743725909
I'm in Rin
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Not him and I should thank Christ for that, but since I actually like Touhou, I'm here. I also like the other shmups, yes I think they're better games than Touhou if only because CC and CRS are the best of doujin shmups, but something isn't immediately bad when it's lesser. That's something a lot of people need to learn, somehow, and Imperishable Night is still a wonderful game.
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>>743723450
WRONG. This Reimu is deceased.
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>>743726019
>my wife is deceased
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>>743725979
I'm not whoever you think i am, im asking a serious question because this looks really dumb. That's not even how you move in a shmup. What's going on in these threads exactly?
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>>743725715
DDC gimmicks & balance are incredibly whack. It'd be an unquestionably top-tier 2hu game if not for that. The main PoC mechanic is simple and elegant
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>>743725931
The video showcased dodging all the attacks just fine. You are getting upset over nothing.
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>>743726071
No one in these threads actually plays.
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>>743726071
I know what you are. Go to the bathroom, you're shitting yourself.
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>>743726071
>>743726164
I know what you did.
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I don't see any 1ccs being posted
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My wife is deceased!
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>>743726142
I would very much like to see a full clear by someone who flails around like a retard like that
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>>743726202
mommy
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>>743726283
...oops
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>>743726287
>Uhh uhm but but actually you didn't dodge the RIGHT way
Spergs like you are hilarious.
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>>743726202
O.O
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>>743726354
No really, I would love to see a full replay of this person clearing anything. Doesn't even have to be that game. Doesn't even have to be touhou.
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>>743726287
How would you have done it instead?
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>>743726428
he would've simply not played and instead shitposted all day on /v/
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>>743726428
I'm an evil bad guy apparently, why should I tell you how to do it?
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It's the truth.
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>>743726415
It's okay Lilbitchy, you can go back to your 404'd threads to samefag about us some more until the mods catch on again.
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>>743726464
another w for you, the zero clear shitposter
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>>743726464
?
Just answer the question
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>>743726523
Nina more like Mima
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>>743726081
Stage 3 and 4 balance is fucked up. Kagerou is RNG hell and Benben is fucking miserable with Marisa but quite easy with Reimu and Sakuya.
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>>743709402
Devs dont have original ideas and if they do their scared it wont sell so they go the movie approach, which is silly since games arent movies and new IPs pop off all the time or at least pop off more than new movie IPs.
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>>743726428
It is well established that the only correct way to play the games is to dodge right. Only to the right. Dodging to the left makes you a prancing lala homofag with dainty genitals covered in milksop that will never be on the guest list at the finest parties.
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>>743726798
if you play reimu yukrai in SA, you could quite literally do this
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>>743726798
ok tei
you could probably beat ez modo and sa with reimua with only right
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>>743719494
Not an argument, keep projecting, faggiest generation yet :)
>>743719779
>>743719917
>n-not true [explains why it is casualized, lame and gay]
Shockerrrrrr
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>>743726701
I don't remember the Benben fight too much but agreed 100% with Kagerou, her boss fight just seemed really unfair in a bad way. DDC bosses in general feel like they really needed more time in the oven.
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>>743722797
You're right. EoSD bullet patterns were designed without visible hitbox in mind. That's why they are easier than in later games.
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>>743726831
Years ago there was an Anon ITT that was trying to 1cc SA like that. Don't remember if he also excluding vertical inputs too.
Either way I think even down to Easy he got cucked by Orin's Stage 6 midboss spell. The red & blue zigzag one.
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>>743726976
Orin fucks up anyone
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>>743726964
is EoSD considered easier? I thought it was considered on the tougher end since it's relatively gimmickless compared to the later games, i.e. less ways to cheese through the game. Also rank and RNG fucking you over more than usual (not that that's inherently a good thing)
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>>743726916
The problem with Benben's fight is it's very hard to stay under her :3 so homing shots are highly preferred. You also can't hug the bottom with MarisaA in general or you barely deal damage even if you're under the boss. You're incentivized to spam Master Spark with her, but she moves slowly, making PoCing for resources harder. It's just a terrible shottype all around.
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>>743727092
When was the last time Marisa was strong?
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>>743727092
DDC Marisa A might honestly be the worst shot type in the entire series. I struggle to think of a worse shot type.
(webm not related)
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>>743722585
>This is the same board that complains about Pokemon games
pokemon games in current year are quite literally broken on launch with bugged textures, unstable framerates, and no content
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>>743722585
/v/ is not one person
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>>743727068
>is EoSD considered easier
For me personally. There are just less bullets on the screen.
Also the difference between the difficulty levels is not that big. Hard is not more difficult than Normal. I haven't tried to clear Lunatic, but judging by the videos online, it's not much difficult than Hard mode.
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>>743727068
EoSD is not considered easier, but last I played it, I had more ending lives than I did in both PCB and IN and I knew the answers to most attacks. YMMV perhaps. I don't remember how to fight Youmu but I know Sakuya is mostly just misdirection. If fighting Kaguya, her final spell is probably the easiest of the three.
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>>743727169
There's Malice Cannon, DDC MarisaB is pretty broken and MoF MarisaB is actually broken. She's good in UFO, TD and WBaWC.

>>743727204
Sakuya solo in IN is abysmal. I don't know which 1cc is worse honestly.
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>>743727364
Marisa is also fine in HSiFS. Reimu just tears the Extra a new backdoor.
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>>743727068
No clue.

IN is the only one I would describe as noticeably easy.
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What did I think of touhou 20?
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>>743727408
I only did no release runs in HSiFS so I can't say in full honesty. MarisaSpring is probably on par with ReimuWinter, but it means you had to face spring final.
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>>743727068
As far as i'm concerned it's dead average within the series. Nothing really cheesy about it but aside from a bit of bullet vomit here and there that goes both ways, and the patterns feel about average in difficulty. I don't think it's completely devoid of micrododging but it's definitely a transitional game between PC-98's hectic jank, and the later 1st Gen titles with slower, more dense patterns.
Nons don't tell the whole story but while the thread is discussing DDC, the gap in difficulty between Patchouli & Benben's nons is massive. I fucking hate Benben's nons. Even if you get that you can misdirect them slightly its still dense as shit. Yatsuhashi's nons aren't as bad but you're gonna have to deal with Social Upheaval (her last spell, made Top 10 of the hardest spells in a Japanese poll), with music notes coming from behind while having to follow Yatsuhashi. DDC really wants you to have homing but sometimes never gives it to you.
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>>743727483
Unexpectedly kino for all the hate it got.
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>>743727483
It's very schizo but very fun
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>>743727306
Idk about that. I definitely felt the jump from Hard -> Lunatic in terms of spellcards. EoSD spellcards can be really fucking mean. Mainly talking about Patchouli and Remilia here. Sakuya's nonspells can easily make you waste several bombs as well.
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>>743727483
Chaining Wonder Stones screen clears makes your brain feel good.
Fuck the big Pyramid bosses and their GFW tier speeds except I can't freeze things here.
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>>743709402
2 main reasons
>Corpos that "make decisions" and the fuckwit shareholders that are the actual puppet masters seek the holy grail of products: something that will magically appeal to everyone, so they think this shit will guarantee sell among fans of the original (unfortunately not so far off), and normies will want to jump in and see what [game] is about, now that it's been modernized beyond recognition
>The industry is (and has been for years) creativity bankrupt. Flooding the development side with "Cs get degrees" devs to meet the apparent needs for making modern games and yes men who try to make games for the same kind of people that frequent walmat and amazon, and feel the need to keep up with every normie trend, which creates a feedback loop from first point
Buckle up, Anon
It will only get worse, with no sign of turnaround in sight
>>743709776
Was bound to happen in normie entertainment media like tv, movies, music and (since gen 7ish) vidya, where there has to be NEW TO CONSOOOOOOOOM every 17 seconds or so
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>>743727483
Cheesy as fuck but fun
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>>743725375
you realize you can just hug the walls of the lane created by the yellow bullets and just tap dodge away from the green bullets that intersect with your path, right

no brains required, just hug left side of lane, tap to right, then go back to the left wall for the next wave. it slowly pushes you right but the spellcard will end before you get walled
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>>743727883
What about damage?
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>>743727883
You can't just follow the lane right if you want to capture that spell, Patchy will move away from you. You have to push left, which is what he's doing.
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>>743728043
by moving in this fashion you will stay underneath patchouli. you're cutting to the left after each wave so the bullets line up correctly which puts you under the boss as an additional consequence. you really shouldn't obsessively attack people when you dont play the games, its not cool man.
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>>743727883
in theory that's how you're meant to do it. in my experience patchouli sometimes moves too much in places you don't want her to move to that you're forced to lane switch if you don't wanna time out the spell. that spell is one of those where it can be easy as piss or it can be really annoying especially if she decides to move closer to the bottom of the screen.
still not as bad as emerald megalith at least
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>>743728062
yep

>>743728138
nope
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>>743728194
>that you're forced to lane switch
you just pop two lanes instead of one, theres not much garbage in between waves that this is more inconsistent than what he's doing. its like the difference between 5% consistency and 95% consistency. eosd is a very easy game and you people are acting like its the hardest thing ever lol
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>>743727505
I prefer MarisaWinter because if I'm remembering right there's a bug that keeps Winter stronger than intended, and the extra damage does matter. The release itself even boosts damage while it's active. Reimu's homing is just crazy good in that game so I'm unsure which is better.
>>743727483
It's good, and I'm sick of posers saying that it's not. "Touhou is reclining" has been a meme for ages and with the AI scandal it paved the way for more of that type of downplaying from people who haven't even enjoyed a Touhou in 10 years, maybe longer. It's like if genwunners were actually entertained by the casual audience.
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>>743728287
Winter has the bug where the laser options stack with the release level as long as you keep shooting. I can see why it would be OP if you could use releases.
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>>743709402
i've only played the text adventure game era where you get to romance the touhou girls, but i've never played any of the touhou games. ama
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I still think this was a cool spellcard.
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>>743728138
That sounds boring, that shot type is meant to kill things fast
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>>743728273
>you people are acting like its the hardest thing ever lol
It's just an avatarfag arcade shmuptranny shitposting and trying to derail the thread. No one should be taking them seriously
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>>743728572
its a little too late to do damage control now, you're an ass
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>>743728572
it's also wrong lol, patchy will move left whenever she wants to.
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>>743728601
It's even funnier because he used to shill Touhou as a good beginner option until the Touhoufags bullied him for being a schizo retard and now he acts like there's any reason beyond that for him hating it. Arcade shmups are awesome; he isn't
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>>743728682
the new obsession is puzzle games and TSS. he shit his bridges in a tetris thread earlier
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>>743721951
It requires people living better
Nowadays people are too busy surviving and not enough kids to sell your products
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>>743728675
Then just follow her
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>>743728675
no its not wrong, you move to the left after every wave. thats how the card works retard
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Thoughts on LoLK?
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>>743728738
>then do what the webm did
ok
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>>743728776
I was watching
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>>743728776
Schizo difficulty curve but very iconic. The webm spell is even worse in the demo, the bullets were always glowy there.
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I just came to OSAKANA2Gou 2hu futa pics starring Reimu x Flan/Koishi
AMA
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Does Aya secretly... you know...
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>>743728734
TSS is pretty fun, not a 10/10 masterpiece but a very novel shmup which inspired three Touhou games. PVP shmup is a really cool idea. Tetris is probably the best puzzle game, I don't think the five guys in those threads deserve a schizo spewing bullshit.
>>743728776
Best Touhou game until Stage 4 where ZUN gives up on balancing patterns for Legacy. Cool game despite that but not the S tier some claim it to be. Unpopular opinion maybe but I like HSiFS more even if it's blander.
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>>743728891
Can I order the potatoes as a side dish?
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>>743728891
which 2hu would you have gay sex with
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>>743728776
IWBTG slop
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>>743728959
I feel like I'd like HSiFS more if stage 5 and beyond didn't exist.
I dunno maybe I just didn't learn it properly. Felt like stage 4 was the peak of that game.
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>>743728790
Yes? I'm agreeing with what the webm meant
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im so close to a hard 1cc if i could just stop fucking choking
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>>743729069
i thought the okina fight was good. spring and summer final fucking suck tho

>>743729075
aight cool :)
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>>743729030
filtered
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>>743729158
Ganbaru
Which game
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>>743729069
Stage 5 kind of sucks, yeah, and Okina's fight has some very messy visuals where most of the nonspell difficulty comes from you not being able to see the fucking bullets (I like the spell cards themselves). Anyway, elaborating on Stage 5, Mai and Satono have some extra unfun patterns, star RNG one especially, and the stage has some laser bullshit. The boss has even more laser bullshit even. I got used to the cheeto lasers that were in some of the other games (MS, UFO come to mind) but I hate attacks that force me into a tight space, besides Devil's Recitation. That includes some of Mai/Satono and some of Clownpiece. Clownpiece has two survivals though so I still think she's more annoying, they're not particularly hard survivals but still.
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>>743729317
EoSD
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>>743729369
Don't die
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>>743729325
I could never forget Mai and Satono's fight.
It's definitely an experience
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>>743729549
I don't know what ZUN was thinking with that one. Releases don't even take care of it, besides maybe Cirno with her shotgun and that's a maybe.
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eh... eh... eh- eh... eh...
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>>743727204
i heard sakuya b is the worst in ddc
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>>743727092
>It's just a terrible shottype all around.
Welcome to DDC. I like the game, but it's true.
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>>743729740
For scoring there is no better option. Her bomb is designed with score in mind, while Master Spark is just kinda ass at everything. You don't have to try to shotgun with SakuyaB either.

Maybe hot take but I think Benben MarisaA is harder than Yatsuhashi.
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I haven't played touhou in nearly 4 years. How the fuck do I enter a flow state again?
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>>743729984
pick up your favorite game and do some chill runs. download thprac to do some random spells on a whim
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>>743729947
Well, I mean, isn't Benben supposed to be hard, since A Shot is supposed to be stronger than B Shot
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>>743729947
benben gets overshadowed by 99% of ddc players picking reimua or sakuyaa. with marisaa everything is hard

yatsuhashi is basically just requiem dice roll for all b shots
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How come I never see anyone talk about this game?
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>>743730316
It's a great game in all aspects except the gimmick. Boss patterns have nice visuals to express their character even further like Murasa's anchors and Unzan's fists, and they're pretty nice patterns too, but above Normal, a Hard 1CC is akin to a Lunatic in some other games and the Lunatic itself is the hardest one. It's a frustrating kind of difficulty.
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>>743730316
if you dislike curvy laser attacks (a lot of people do), you're going to HATE this game. The gimmick was reiterated in a better way in Wily Beast and the Weakest Creature. It's harder on average, even though the patterns look cool. It has some of the worst recovery doom spirals in the entire series. The narrative and the OST are top notch still, especially Stage 6. It's a fun game, but yeah, it can get on your nerves real hard.
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>>743730701
where did WBaWC have curvy lasers? I haven't played it in a while but I don't remember seeing those. Was it in stage 4?
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>>743730316
UFOS filter people
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>>743730778
Excuse me, I didn't mean the lasers as a gimmick, i meant the game's gimmick, which is picking up random flying shit for bonuses.
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>>743730701
WBaWC also had Youmu. Otter is for playing it safe, but you can feel the power with Wolf. Maybe it's an underappreciated game, I don't know, but I liked the areas, love the Beast Trio, and the final boss was really cool. It's true that it's maybe too cheesy but that might not be fair to say to it after 20, a game that I like more.
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Haven't been following the touhou fan scene in ages. Did that one Suika metroidvania game ever get finished? If anyone knows what I'm talking about.
Did KKHTA finish?
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My theory is that its cheap to do now because of LLMs
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>>743709402
the geriatric bunch no longer wants to make new games due to demand for maximum profitability and too much bureaucratic red tape and dei oversight and self censorship imposed. artists and the creative process are literally being trodden and your designs have to go through multiple hurdles. platform exclusivity is bought out, and steam is able to deny publishing forever if it finds a single fault or when banks take issue with depictions of affairs because gotta desensitize people by not showing the effects so that lawyers clean up affairs messes. search algos will only promote specific things to people now, everything else might not even show in search results even with the direct search term. wikis are fucking dead, consumed by the fandom horde, with gamepedia sold from twitch to amazon to fandom and then cannibalized. imgur led a war against gamefaqs board and disabled all image showing, technology print media is dead, nobody has made a fun lower spec handheld and physical games are being killed pushing everything to pc and steam. the digital mobile games market and pc market takes a greedy 30% cut when physical was only 10% or so. sideloading is being disabled so dodging that won't even be possible. everyone demands that games make the same as the latest blockbusters and smash hits with big historic names attached to them, and only remakes are spared from scrutiny because their profits are calculated based on the long age of the game instead giving freeway. why even bother at that point.
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>>743728287
Touhou is reclining has always been about the girls, music and fanworks in that regard it's true. 2hu is getting less and less fanart as well as doujinshi and arranges with each passing year. LoLK was the last Touhou game people gave a fuck about when it comes to girls and music and FW is no exception. The girls get fuck all fanart and I listen to 2hu music religiously and I've ran into 2 whole FW arranges. It's extremely unpopular even though it has recency bias on it's side.
For fucks sake FW has 700 images on booru. That is absolutely abysmal. It's losing to fucking VISUAL NOVELS a genre that has been dead for over a decade at this point.
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>>743730316
>doing well
>enter stage 4 with a lot of resources
>come out with like 2 lives
It hurts so bad.
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>>743728565
That is a very cool spellcard, I like it.
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KINOOOOOOO
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>>743731142
FW won't have recency bias for much longer because EoSD which was already the top dog is coming back to assrape every other game. I like the music and girls in 20, but its popularity definitely isn't explosive. It it was then we would've gotten 500 vocal remixes of Stone Goddess.
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>>743731258
I always thought this was a witch hat
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Is it really a remake if it was never released in English before?
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>>743731142
> LoLK was the last Touhou game people gave a fuck about when it comes to girls and music
t. western only retard
wbawc is insanely popular with futaba
tsukasa as well as a sole outlier within 18
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KINOOOOOOO
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>>743731258
What does Kaguya even do?
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Should I give Len'en a shot?
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>>743709402
Every shit series with no ideas left for geriatrics always turns to remakes out of desperation. Resident Evil, Touhou, Assassin's Creed, The Witcher. All this slop should've ended years ago.
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>>743731434
Speed through 1-2-3 so you can play 4
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>>743723702
Poder politico.
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>>743731398
>insanely popular... with futaba
Bro.......
Fuck me this actually made me laugh out loud
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>>743709402
Troonjj3wk1kes want to take over every IP and infect them with globohomo so women can have fun playing bideo gaymes too. theres no other reason
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>>743731417
You only like this game because you want to fuck the fairies
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>>743731565
Excuse me, I like freezing bullets and timing the mechanic to hit enemies AND I want to fuck the fairies. VFiS was the manga's peak.
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>>743731398
>wbawc is insanely popular with futaba
How so?
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>>743731908
They love the tribal shitposting of otter, wolf, and eagle
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>>743726871
Still not censored. Also its an optional feature similar to how you can add more lives in the original.
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>>743731982
What's the most recent thing they have done?
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>>743723531
Why is her skirt so short?
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>>743719779
they changed a magic circle to another magic circle
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>>743732202
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>>743732126
What kind of question is that? What's the last thing /v/hu or /jp/ has done?
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>>743709402
Because Mayans were right we all died in 2012 and this is hell
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>>743732250
I meant the recent maymays
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I miss funny non-h doujins.
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Why didn't Reimu just ask Kasen to oneshot Mizuchi during the entirety of CDS, is she stupid?
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>>743709776
HOLD ME BABY NORI ORI PARTY
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>>743732413
Kasen's chest is too big to fit on the page so she couldn't be included, sorry
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>>743709402
Because millennials are the only ones keeping the industry alive. And they love nostalgia bait.
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>>743709402
Same answer as
>"why are they remaking the middle game in the series?"
Judaism.
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>>743733721
Elaborate on that
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>>743732936
but the CDS mangaka is the one who actually draws chests
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Every toy need a remake after every 10yrs
Video games are toys
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>>743731142
To be fair booru uploaders are not the most consistent thing in the world, and hardly anyone tags the girl with her game. Ariya & Yuiman are currently at 1.1k and 1050 respectively on Pixiv, which is a little better but not great.
Modern characters just don't get the luxury of sticking for long, being in more prominent roles, or another genre that could make them shine more (since Tasofro's dead so no more fighting games). They also aren't in the g*cha which is really popular with the youth. In an ironic twist if you'd like to blame genwunners, it tends to be the older fans that care about the new characters. Every surge of popularity like Yuuma or Toyohime is met with a lower than average % of underaged fans, no girl from 19 or 18 even breaks into that average either.
Remember Nareko's 2 weeks of fame? All she got since officially is a small panel cameo in LE, and you bet your ass if an egyptian meme or situation ever comes up in the artist sphere, she's not even guaranteed to be the one drawn doing it.
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>>743734325
Tasofro isn't officially ded, though their last act of doing anything was updating AoCF in 2023. Since they haven't announced anything anywhere I assume they're just in hibernation kinda like Demetori was between 2017 - 2022
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>>743733994
I'm just glad Okuu is now a canon titcow
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Cause we hit our freshold in creativity and tech so it means god is real and is going to judge us soon and hes going to blame us all christianity buddaism jap gods and jews equally and he will use me to judge you all and myself
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Drawings???
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>>743709402
Devs are creatively bankrupt, publishers aren't looking for new talent, and paying Indians to remake old games is cheap.
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>>743735660
Let me judge you first.
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>>743736034
Its inevitable anon
Either my death will trigger the massive irl final event or something within this life "my life" will
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>>743734038
did you go to Toys-R-US and there's a yoyo remake? this makes no sense
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Clutching onto an existing IP is the only way to survive in a sea of unproven indie garbage.
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>>743709402
Will there be a physical release on Switch?
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>>743736948
>Physical
Not likely
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>>743734038
Remake Bionicles
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>>743737018
Bionicle wasn't a thing in 2007?
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>>743718778
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>>743734038
Why pong didnt get a remake in 80s and it was released in 70s?
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>>743721934
>>743721697
>kabanfag in the thread
Don’t you have a loli thread to groom and larp as a celebrity?
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>>743737287
>
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>>743734038
this nigga still plays with toys
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>>743731417
my favorite stage theme
such a shame not even ZUN likes it
>https://youtu.be/0WzALopXC84
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>>743737476
>nintendo
K tendie
You will never steal touhou
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>>743737638
Zun loves Nintendo
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ZUN betrayed you but JynX still loves you.
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>>743722170
I'd like having that little indicator at the bottom of the screen that shows you where the boss is, but that's really it.
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>>743730870
it got cancelled, the suika game
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>>743737909
Lennies are dead
Soon (in December) you'll be able to celebrate 10 years since Lenny 4
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>>743722170
Full res original sprites and the option to choose prerecorded SC-88Pro midi tracks in options. The new arrangements are also interesting.
EoSD doesn't need more.
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>>743738075
>prerecorded SC-88Pro midi tracks
I thought I was the only one.
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>>743738015
Yep loli games are being trageted
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>>743726202
They are not that big
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>>743738246
That dev went radio silent long ago
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>>743728946
Have sex with human males? Yes, absolutely.
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>>743732202
To tempt men into sinning of course. Why else?
Eiki literally gets off the bed every morning thinking
>I hope he tries to peek under it today
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>>743732401
why is joon such a whore
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>>743735689
Post one
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>>743732971
>Because millennials are the only ones keeping the industry alive. And they love nostalgia bait.
No I don't. I've never once played a remake. Why would I?
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>>743732401
I love that doujin
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>>743738920
byakuren is a fat fuck
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>>743719026
I play Touhou games on Normal, or Hard if I want to really push myself, and I enjoy LLS and MS a lot on Normal difficulty. I will never beat their Extra stages and I'm okay with that. I think 2 and 3 are very charming too even if they're harder to enjoy.
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>>743719318
If Touhou 19 had dogshit netcode then a remake of 9 would, too. At least PoFV has fanmade solutions to netcode, probably better than what ZUN would produce unless ZUN explicitly hired the people who made said solutions
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>>743738954
Its all muscle actually
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>>743720034
The only official Mima anything in years.
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>>743739042
The EoSD remake is largely being handled by an Aquastyle developer, Jyunya, who showed a prototype and idea for it to ZUN, who coincidentally happened to finally find the source for EoSD, combining the two. Although Aquastyle doesnt really have experience in netplay either, they've only ever made SP games (Genso Wanderer series, Double Focus).
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>>743739117
its all tits and ass actually
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>>743709402
You must learn that the things made in the past can't be made today, even if everything you've played is touhou EoSD twenty years ago
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>>743739253
full of muscle
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>>743722917
I've been looking at the recent 2hu popularity polls, and I think all three fell into the triple digits at some point; lemme check:
>Lunasa: 103rd
>Merlin: 125th
>Lyrica: 132nd
Yeah, it's unfortunate.
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>>743739723
Saki's always low so I don't have faith in the Japanese Timmies anymore. Maybe she will be high this year because of the Uma meme.
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>>743739429
Nooo you don't get it! Old thing clunky and bad! New thing fun and good!
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>>743739860
Okina is old and clunky!
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>>743739860
>New thing bad
is the average /jp/ doomer tbqh
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>>743717134
Touhou does not have compat. issues regarding the software, just hardware. there's zero locking of FPS based on CPU/GPU type of shit like on old hardware by default, so they make these games unplayable. they require a remake essentially to add FPS caps an option in the menu screen.
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>>743709402
Because a lot of people (not you) like them. Is other people enjoying things you don't such a hard concept to understand?
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/v/hu... /v/hu has healed!
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>>743739723
The Prismrivers are not the only one to have a theme that's more popular and beloved than the character themselves
>Idolatrize World 8th -> Keiki 62nd
>Inchling of the Little Princess 33rd -> Shinmyoumaru 87th
All of these characters rank below Koakuma (57th, above Nazrin and below Chimata), by the way.
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>>743740028
It has?!
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>>743739797
go back to whatever shithole you came from jeet.
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>>743740051
Koakuma is the most sexually attractive Touhou character.
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>>743740028
Really feels less like /v/hu and more like a Touhou thread on /v/. I'm glad I got to talk about gameplay for once.
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>>743734585
Shame. I'd love for them to update Sunken Fossil World to work on Switch 2.
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>>743740160
>I'm a jeet because I think Uma is a dumb meme game
Reading comprehension holy shit
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>>743709402
0 cost
hire indian
they work only for 6 month
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>>743740183
Lets keep it that way, before the others wake up or something
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>>743740284
That's the plan. It helps that the usual genre schizos are busy elsewhere.
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Your opinion on THpractice?
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>>743740373
Cheating
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>>743740174
No... that's Yuuka.
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>>743739982
As far as I remember, only 6 needed vpatch, the rest works fine out of the box. Except for 9 that completely ignored my controllers.
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>>743740414
103, arms do not work like that. Please work on your anatomy.
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>>743722170
Add spell practice
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>>743740219
>using "japanese timmies", capping them, thinks he fits in.
you don't: go back curry munching acktard, only jeets obsess over whites like that because you want so bad to be recognized as one but never will. you are a subhuman that deserves to die. your AI programmed answers do not matter here.
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>>743740408
How?
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>>743740415
Vpatch is still recommended to mitigate input lag, but OpenInputLagPatch and Neopatch make it sort of obsolete.
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I talked about it before but since the original is included, what small features & changes do you think they'll make?
I personally am not sure Rank is making it to the remake. Its a remnant of the PC-98 games that's just barely a thing in PCB, and was gone by IN. Not sure they'll include it again.
>>743740373
Not really my thing but difficult genres tend to all have built in features or patches to reduce the tedium & inefficiency of training for a specific thing in vanilla, so I have nothing against it even if I don't use it.
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>>743740503
What the fuck are you talking about? I call them Japanese Timmies because most of the voters in the official Japanese Touhou poll are in fact Japanese, and are statistically young too, but you're just here to be a race war tard.
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Yuuka is in fact one of the most sexual hus don't @ me
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>>743740639
NTA but that's not how I had interpreted Japanese Timmies, although it does make sense now that you spell it out. I read it through the lens of 4chan baiting, as in using Timmy as a derogatory synonym for whites, so essentially, weebs.
Don't ask me why I think you wouldn't use weeb or anything else, that's just how my brain works when interacting on this site.
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>>743740639
>misues language, no yous.
yeah you are an indian retard, you do not fit in, go the fuck away.
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Don't reply to that retard. You should know who he is by now.
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>>743740785
you don't add any such name to referring to Japanese when it comes to Japanese just "Japs" or "Takeshis" are the common names for Japanese average natives, he's clearly lost his way from some India/reddit to 4chan.
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I DEMAND your cutest Alice
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>>743740881
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>>743739797
If it's about the animal yakuza, then Yuuma is there. (Even directly above Mima.)
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>>743740917
Thats not the correct aspect
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>>743740934
Nobody is above Mima.
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>>743740785
>using Timmy as a derogatory synonym for whites
I guess that happens, but I associate it with the Mario Maker kids who make the worst levels known to man. I don't know what it is with anons during these hours.
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>>743740962
Oh my bad, here you go.
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>>743741013
nobody has ever used timmies towards Japanese and only Indians obsess over that timmy word like its some huge gotcha. whilst their names are like "ranjeet talwar..."
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>>743740028
/v/hu... has changed... no more /v/hufriends...
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>>743741131
This is what happens when the /jp/ gameplay general dies
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>>743740779
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touhou is finally video games
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>>743741131
But I'm right here...
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>>743717081
It needs a remake, but not for those retarded reasons.
GIVE ME A RESTART OPTION IN THE PAUSE MENU FUCKING HELL
Also Spell Practice would be nice I guess.
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>>743740314
I think it's too late, they found this thread
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>>743740881
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My /v/hu friends will always have a place in my heart, no matter no far apart our threads drift. I've been having fun with UM lately.
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>>743741363
The game was perfectly fine without any of that.
It doesn't NEED that.
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Something something Meira and balls mang
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Is it too late to make a HSiFS Summer challenge?
I wanted to make it EoSD to celebrate the remake but with it being a month and a half away it feels a little too late.
I also have no experience tallying up replays and making sure everything is in order.
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>>743741363
THprac is like one of the best inventions. I don't ask that they replicate it but ZUN should at least add mid-boss and boss select options for his games.
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>>743741543
You should always be playing touhou. You have my full support anon.
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>>743741543
In like two or three days you will get it, good luck
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>>743740414
:^O
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>>743740881
>>743741749
Does it upset you? Faggot.
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>>743741817
:^(
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>>743740983
You know what I meant. (For the record, Yuuma and Mima took 48th and 49th, which I believe makes Mima the highest scoring PC-98 2hu that didn't make it past that era.)
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>>743725593
Touhou will continue being the face of shmups and there's nothing you can do about it lol.
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>>743725204
Do anons think it's bad
I liked it
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>>743741817
UH OH GORILLA MELTY
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>>743725593
>Cho Ren Sha
This sounds like a chinese dish, what is this?
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I need my fix of touhou shitposting
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gay sex with a /v/hu
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>>743741543
Go for it
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HEY MERTH
HEY TEWIMOM
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>>743741992
The general consensus is (or was) that it's mediocre and forgettable since it came right after the Clownpiece game. Seems to be a bit more appreciated nowadays.
>>743742097
That guy's a shitposter but the game is a doujin shmup classic from the 90s
https://yosshin4004.github.io/x68k/crs68k/official/index.html
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>>743709469
>lost the source code for the first three windows games
I get that he is just one guy but holy fuck this is painful.
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>>743742304
None you beseech is around to aid you anonymous... There is me and only me tonight...
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>>743718778
Uironically 8
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>>743742373
It's the japanese curse
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>>743742452
Who are you?
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>>743742452
Draw Fatchouli
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Because people have too high of expectations on sequels / new iterations
So it's safer to go for nostalgia
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>>743717081
Going from Mystic Square to EoSD is the worst feeling possible
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>>743742493
Your best friend and your worst nightmare.
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>>743722585
honestly I also thought the newer Pokemon games are hated by graphicsfags and haters, but it also got lot of deserved criticism in terms of worse level design and effort compared to older games
The Dex cut is the biggest one, and PKMN company seemed to not care about it at all anymore
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Now I DEMAND your ugliest Marisa
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>>743742587
Honestly both criticisms are very valid for pokemon.
I mean, why would they even bother with quality when they basically monopolize the entire genre? No reason to care about graphics and no reason to care about gameplay.
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>>743718778
A handful I suppose
Since they are usually remaking a good game even the most mediocre ones still manage to be alright
Though some are truly abysmal
EOSD one will most likely still be decent even in the scenario if end up dropping the ball for whatever reason
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>>743742652
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>>743742652
That's an impossible request. Marisa is cute in all her iterations.
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>>743709402
>Why is everything a remake now?
Cheaper and safer to make, it's really that simple, why make a new game people might not like or might not buy, when you can just slap a new coat of paint on an old game, charge 40 to 80€ for it and rack in massive profits since those don't cost hundreds of millions to make.
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>>743742539
While I wouldn't go that far, I do think Mystic Square is a better game. To date it's the only one with a credits song for the Extra stage, because it was actually a send-off.
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>>743742763
>That's an impossible request.
And?
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Bump limit please
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>>743742950
Congrats.
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Is Misdirection supposed to always make me bomb or die?
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>>743738246
>>743730870
If I recall, their computer went up in smoke or something along those lines.
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>>743743157
Thanks, it was nice to enjoy a normal touhou thread each once in a while
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>>743740174
That's Kasen
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>>743742097
Doujin shmup from the 1990s, notably made by a solo dev for a platform that was already on its way out. Good and clear fundamentals, along with some of the best sound design in the genre.
The thing is that after Touhou, you just find out that opposing "story" and "gameplay" is just faggot shit and you can just flat out have both all of the time, and most STGs aren't interesting enough in story AND gameplay. It's not even needed to have a 2hu-tier narrative, things like Ikaruga or Hellsinker are just fine to let you know what the fuck are you actually doing here, but even they are rare.
>>743743258
Go into a lane than dodge another lane while dodging the projectiles from the previous lane that have been scattered. Basically yeah, bomb it.
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>>743743348
Yeah, it was. There's a lot to talk about with this series.
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>>743743447
There is but some shitposters would think otherwise
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>>743740174
Probably Raiko. Have you seen that canon ass in the latest CDS?
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>>743743258
just pick a side and stay there. try not to move too much because everything is aimed
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>>743742334
>Seems to be a bit more appreciated nowadays.
Good to hear at least
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>>743743648
No, post it
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>>743743729
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>>743743774
God fucking damn.
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>>743743774
I'm gonna bang that drum
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>>743743774
woah
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Is it worth continuing to try if you died before stage 3 boss?
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>>743743774
>manga such a forgettable failure it has to resort to coombait fanservicing
kekarooni
just cancel it at this point
what the fuck was the point of calling it Satori's even when she's just jobbing all the goddamn time
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>>743744141
You never know until it's over
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>>743744141
If it is your first time playing sure
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>>743744150
bbut Mima might appear any second
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Bump limit!
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>>743744150
I like the coom bait but you're right, I don't even care about the current plot, the Mizuchi thing happened and I checked CDS after and was jumpscared by Mamizou again. Lotus Eaters is just full of unlikeable characters. Bring back the fairies.
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I'll make a new thread in 3 days, are you in?
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Kukulu this Saturday
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>>743725280
After the Third Lighting remaster we got, please update R-Type to "Alive but at what cost?"
>>743722917
Raiko showed up in the new CDS chapter and they did not when they should have, so they might appear soon.
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We made it good job
>>743744527
I've got mild curiosity for CDS as its getting to the newer games and there may be a modicum of a chance of seeing some characters' 1st non cameo manga appearance.
Maybe Misumaru will somehow matter.
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>>743741361
which /v/hufriend are you?
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>>743744814
I want them to get to HSiFS so I can see Larva again, or maybe Narumi again. Aunn could actually do something where the fuck has she been seriously.
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>>743744527
You have to grin and bear the endless Mamizou/Aya/Suika chapters in LE because every now and then you get a Marisa chapter or a Sannyo chapter
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>>743745137
Sannyo may not be popular but the people just don't get it. She carries a manga on her back.
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>>743744150
Because they changed the artists and the new one took control over the story
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>>743745178
As expected of a Meira clone
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>>743745137
Sannyo is the best thing about LE
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Why's ZUN trying so hard for Sannyo to be a people's favorite anyway
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>>743745283
This artist draws butts better than breasts
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I think Marisaface is funny. There I said it
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>>743745439
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>>743745439
You mean Kanmari or other Marisa faces?
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2hu manga has too much nothing ever happens for me to care
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The best way to read the Touhou manga is to look on the Wiki for every time your favorites show up and skip to those parts
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>>743745554
Always bet on nothing
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>>743745584
What if they don't show up
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Is not ZUN supposed to announce his next game this week?
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>>743745667
Then fuck everything
Wrigglebro btw
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>>743745667
Look up porn and pretend it's a real manga
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>>743745584
>most favorites is from PC-98
So I should just not even bother?
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>>743745798
ye
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>>743745798
Shinki is actually my favorite but that's never happening ever
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>>743745798
Your first mistake is thinking pc98 will be relevant again
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>>743745930
Genjii was mentioned recently though
In an official game
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>>743746001
No he wasn't



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