LORD HAVE MERCY
>>743710645>tfw reset my achievements time to start all over again :)
>>743710645Dogma balls
I started playing this game recently. What do the batteries do?
>>743710645IsaacAnd his mother
>>743711427recharge your active item(if you get one its on the top left of the screen wigh green bars next to it). Clearing a room grants 1 energy. Small batteries give 2, and big batteries give full.
Mewgenics is too hard, and runs waste my time. Isaac is fast and snappy.
>>743710645dogmer
>>743710645Got Dead God on all 3 saves for the special image, one save fully legit and 2 abusing all exploits I could. The steak was juicy and Edmund can NEVER make me chew slower.
Coom
>>743712136me watching girls gone wild infomercials on comedy central at 2am
More isaac baddies please.
>>743710645Genuinely how do you get good at bullet hell games? I know isaac is for babies but still
>>743713345learn to move
Coomers are patheticcan't even enjoy a game about a dead baby without having to shove in coomslop to enjoy ittry getting laid so you don't have to cope with a crippling porn addiction
>>743713345Focus on the gaps, not the bullets.
>get a build that rapes everything including bosses>um except these ones, they get an arbitrary DPS cap that gimps you... just becauseGenuinely whats the point of this shit?
Not a roguelike. Not a roguelite. Not a bullet hell.
>>743714723If I had to guess it's to make your defenses matter just as much. The problem is that if you're blasting a fucking nonstop kamehameha at a boss that should, realistically, be dead, it can make visual cues very difficult to see.
>>743714723It's a band-aid solution to bad balance.The game has a seriously snowballing problem.
>>743713345survival first, doing damage second. losing health because you wanted to do a little bit of damage a little sooner is a death sentence unless you can easily recover some life
>>743714943Isn't that the whole point? To get as op as possible and borderline breaking the game?
>>743714723To waste your time by making you reset 100 times until you get one of the 5 items that allows you to rape the bosses even with the damage reduction.
>>743715232No, since the developers clearly want the end-game bosses to be difficult even for broken builds.
>>743715039Nah, in Isaac you want damage first. The game is not designed around default tear DPS.
>>743715914this, usually you want tears up items first and damage up second, health becomes an afterthought if you can kill everything fast enough
>>743710645Best workshop mods to download?
>>743716004Item descriptions and Classic music mod is all you need.
>>743715914Yeah, this is a problem Rebirth has been dragging for over a decade now, the whole game is a DPS check with some critical speed checks sprinkled in. You could do wonders with low damage in the original if you played well enough without sacrificing 20 minutes of your life per boss but it still had some speed check rooms
Best coomer mod to download?
>>743714723the point is that you can't beat the game by pure luck, you must get gud or fuck off
>>743716004The one that makes every item have the same weight for true randomness
>>743716109I only ever did daily challenges for the achievements and then never touched them again
>>743716115breaking the game is the most unfun and lame thing you can do, aside from the first few times, it makes the game boring as fuckthat mod only increases the odds of that
LazyMattman is arguably the best player for this game, and even he can lose a run if RNG doesn't give him any damage ups. Skill matters a lot but the default stats are simply not enough to win.
>>743715869you are fucking retard and never played a roguelike in your life. kys
>>743716173Man, I like the dailies more than the regular game. Their fixed seeds and gimmicks make them more like solvable problems rather than rng fests.
>>743716285TBOI is not a roguelike.
>>743716441Oh boy, thread is over
>>743716223>breaking the game is the most unfun and lame thing you can doI know what you mean but 70% of the items found in Repentance are garbage so it's not that big of a change, I just despite item weight as a concept, not as much as the previous Special item one but still (noooo you can't get lucky one time out of literal hundreds noooooo).The process of breaking the game is the whole point of the game and where all the fun comes from: Searching every secret room, using up every penny, bombing beggars and shopkeepers for a small extra deal chance, using every card as efficiently as possible, knowing as many synergies as you can so you can exploit the; nuking everything is just the cherry on top of the actual game, although sometimes you do all that and still end up struggling with a shit build and those runs are great too.
>>743716617I just despise*Oops
>>743716617>>743716654Saar.
>>743716682A nigga can't post about Isaac while half asleep at 3AM anymore or what?
>>743716617Incorrect. The game disincentivizes optimal play through boss rush / Hush.
>>743710645Are people still making lewd mods for Isaac or has that more or less cooled off? I remember there was a Mom one that was absolute fucking gold, since it replaced the voice lines to be sexier as well.
>>743716779>The game disincentivizes optimal play through boss rush / Hush.Yes, that's a retarded fucking design decision which is why I wipe my ass with it and use No rush. Boss Rush and Hush are challenges on their own already, that's the risk, there was never a need for a gay time gate. I think there's more methods to go around it in Rep+ (I only knew Mama mega and Dad's key while back when I played vanilla) but I'll only ever take that mod off if I'm playing online.
>>743716984There always is something but the good stuff is the same old. Never play without my Bestia mod
>>743717021I always thought Bestia was pretty overrated but that's probably just my taste. mgtexture leans more into the cuter side while not losing sex appeal and that's my shit.>>743716984I think people are still updating Maggy's toy box every now and then with some lewd mods that pop up. The last one I checked out was Big Tiddy Keepers but that was a while ago now
>>743716997if you can't break the game AND meet the rush/hush timer you're just being inefficient.not every run needs to go for them, you can usually tell something's coming together before you're done with basement anyway
>>743717237That's not the point. The issue is that Boss Rush requires you to play badly. It's a perverse incentive.
>>743717237>if you can't break the game AND meet the rush/hush timer you're just being inefficient.I can and I've done it more times than I can count across a couple Dead Gods, it just harms my fun and goes against what I want from the game. I don't care if I have 440 damage with 12.4 tear rate, I'm still gonna go around the floor up and down for 20 minutes looking for ways to squeeze even more items so I can be loaded for the victory lap (after doing several Dark room-Void loops with the red key and a red sac room).Isaac is a game best enjoyed by taking as much time as you want and can and I don't care if the designers thought making you skip over all the fun was a "challenge" somehow, I'm still going to mod the timers and item weight out, random start and see where my wits take me 3 hours later.
Shut up nerds, DELIRIUM 2027.https://x.com/tyronerodriguez/status/2079299539186684275
>>743717706I don't trust a single word that comes out of Tyrone.
>>743717706Don't give me hope, I know they're gonna fuck it up and spend months fixing it>Aiming for upgrade path where possibleWhat?>More balancesLEAVE IT THE FUCK ALONE ALREADY HOLY SHIT
>>743717706forget about the cum boss, when are we finally getting Raglich? This guy is stuck in the files since the release of Repentance
>>743717706I'll fucking believe it when I see itanything short of giving Delirium its own custom attack script that gets attacks toggled on by previously-seen bosses is going to be a sham. Void bosses better all have a Delirium look to them too, the entire floor is so boring.
>>743717706The Delirium rework is this game's holy grail. I don't understand why it's so hard for them to do. If the code is spaghetti, why not rewrite it from scratch? It would have been faster at this point.
>>743717928I wish Clutch shared that fate. They're unused for a reason
>>743717868>Aiming for upgrade path where possiblethats for console cucks. True newgen support for switch2 and ps5, something like that
>>743717932>Void bosses better all have a Delirium look to them tooThere's a mod that does just that already so they can just copy that just how they copied the ambush alert things
>>743717706Does anyone else hate Repentance+'s UI in general? There's this insistence on using this ugly blurry font for everything when there's a perfectly good pixel font right there.Repentance+ feels so superfluous and hacky. The sounds, the design decisions, all of it.I think it's only one guy working on it and all he can do is programmer art.
I'm probably the only person who didn't have any problem with Delirium, even before Repentance. Are you guys fighting him with shitty builds or something? You should only go for Delirium with cracked builds.
>>743716741No. If anyone makes a typo, you're automatically an indian and nobody has to engage with your post. Welcome to modern /v/
Somehow this game is selling more year over year. It's becoming a free money printer like Minecraft.
>>743717972alt path needs more variety. I'm tired of fighting wormwood, gideon and visage. Then there's also this fucker on picrel
>>743714723To encourage you to learn how to use a memory editor.
>>743718029>Repentance+ feels so superfluous and hacky.what, making every single DOGSHIT bottom tier item actually usable and interesting? god forbid
>>743718029I've hated on Repentance+ for the longest time but since Repentogon finally started working there I'd stay behind the mods if I didn't downgrade. NEVER forget Tyrone threw a fit and pulled the Online/Rep+ beta for a whole year, essentially setting everything back, just because a hint of the shitty nothingburger PvP minigame at the end of online runs was datamined.
>>743718062Yeah sure bro.
>>743718062if you have health to tank the random telefrags you do not understand the issue with the boss's designit's not possible to dodge in a way that is intentional. you have to pray that you kill him before he gets lucky a single time and that's bullshitit shouldn't be possible to telefrag the player, it should be entirely telegraphed attacks that are difficult to dodge by design, rather than difficult to dodge by accident.
>>743718091I do agree with that. I go alt paths almost exclusively and whenever I lack keys/bombs and have to go the regular path I am reminded of how much more diverse and interesting the normal boss pool is. I wouldn't mind even more bosses if they're good and not cheap, buggy messes
>>743718214This never happened to me. That's just bad luck I guess. Did you try again?
>>7437182141200 hours here, think i was telefragged maybe twice in all my hard mode marks, i know it's just rng but it really wasn't that common
>>743718214Out-fuckin-skilled
>>743718278>>743718284Yeah wild.
>>743718214Shit like this only started happening to me after Dead God thankfully. I don't know how people can defend this shit, even if you come in with a fuck you build that kills Delirium in 5 seconds there's still a chance for you to be the player in that webm
>>743718337The Gate doesn't even move in it's own fight what the fuck was that
>>743718337Your game is bugged brother. Try verifying the files perhaps?
>>743716256>LazyMattman is arguably the best player for this gameWhat??? Not Sinvicta??
>>743718387Go back to work on Delirium, Tyrone
>>743718385if i had to guess when he turned into widow for a second the gate might have inherited the momentum from widow's jump and been launched
>>743716256>LazyMattman is arguably the best player for this gamenot even close to Neonomihttps://youtu.be/ccFxfbbXrik
>>743718214Chew your steak
>>743718448I was playing Flash the other day and tried this Rebirth classic, then had a rude reminder you just die if you do that there
>>743718375honestly because it's not that common, not a big deal by the time you can get to the void, and only a problem for two (one, lets be honest) charactersit's not "good" sure, but i always thought people blow it out of proportion
>>743718448For a long time I debated myself on whether or not to start uploading Isaac videos because I always hear about big jewtubers doing these "insane" plays and they end up doing exactly what I do regularly or even end up missing out on things I would've gotten. The only thing that stopped me is that I have a bogged 200+ mod setup that makes the game laggier than usual while not changing all that much and I refuse to play vanilla again just for that whim, I have the charisma of a wet cardboard box too. Did anyone here ever think of something similar and actually go through with making Isaac-centered content?
>>743718889I make Isaac videos but more about lore/minutiae/insight about the game. I think samey disposable "record your run" videos are tacky.
>>743716256>LazyMattman is arguably the best player for this game>t. Guy who has only seen LazyMattman play the game
>>743718889>Did anyone here ever think of something similar and actually go through with making Isaac-centered content?I did but for the same opinion as >>743718993 I was going to just record a good run and edit it with memes and shit but I thought that was lame and gay. That niche of recording runs has already been done to death by Mattman and Sinvicta.
>>743718993Sounds dope, the description reminded me of the guy who did this https://youtu.be/cakb7abbrRM>I think samey disposable "record your run" videos are tacky.They are, but I was thinking of treating it as a chill public gaming journal kind of thing.Anyway, do you mind sharing your channel? You sound like you upload quality
>>743719362That guy you linked is such a sperg.Anyways I don't have much yet but I have a lot on my to-do list. I'd define myself more so as an Edmund McMillen fan rather than strictly an Isaac fan because you have to know him to really get to the core of his work and that includes Isaac. Much of the videos I do plan to do are specifically about Isaac though.My most notable video is about Mewgenics but my heart is with Isaac, I'll just say that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QovB0hTTjuM
>>743719049He's the only guy I watch because he's entertaining and loves it. Other players sound like they want to kill themselves.
>>743714104Uh oh, melty
>>743719647Oh shit I didn't know you had a YT channel, cool. I like most of Edmund's works so It's gonna be a great time no doubt. I look forward to your future Isaac videos.>That guy you linked is such a sperg.ikr? He's great.
>>743718089The whole game with every DLC went for 5 bucks this summer sale so it's no wonder, even I bought another complete collection just to gift it to my friend. Winter used to have the biggest Isaac discounts and even then I had to pay around 30 euros for everything back when I bought it, this is 6 times cheaper for a game that never loses demand.
>>743718214Delirium only turns into bosses you have seen that run. You should know that certain bosses make delirium impossible to no hit and abort a delirium run on lost when you see them. Webm is literally a skill/knowledge issue.
>>743721430that just sounds like bad game design
>>743721430anon, mom is a forced fight and she's THE main reason that people get telefragged. since the foot always spawns on top of isaac, all it takes is for delirium to transform into any non-mom boss to guarantee a telefrag
>>743711983The "big batteries" (Lil' Battery) only give six charges if you have Repentance installed. Otherwise you're right, they give a full charge.
>>743714104i have censorship fatigue.
>>743721430>Delirium only turns into bosses you have seen that run.Bosses that have the splash screen, or bosses in general? Like, do the bosses in Chest count?
dps caps are gay
>hearing the new ost after playing the flash boi for so longIt's FUCKING awful.Flash out clears this shitty soundtrack>BUTBUTBUT IT GETS BET-kys
>>743721754You might be right, but I dont think Ive ever ran an item with more than 6
>>743721834pretty sure i've had the game muted the last 500 hours, i wouldn't really know
>>743710645
>>743721834Living In The Light is fantastic. Everything else, you are correct.
>r key doesnt reset rush/hush timersAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>743721834Rebirth's soundtrack isn't a problem anymore, a guy composed more music like Danny B to match the current game (if you can accept it not being absolutely 1:1)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxQeE9pyc-0
>>743710645Isaac... you're making me.... VERY, VERY MAD!
>>743721834Repentace improvement the OST but yeah, still not as good as Flash, although I enjoy the Antibirth OST I have it modded inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RVt8Q_O8Sk&
>>743721834Filtered. Rebirth Caves, Basement and Cellar theme is good.
Game was abusecore kino until you make your way back up. The mom v. dad shit is souless as fuck and completely misses the point because of the forced melodramatism by the VAs trying to read *those* lines.
>>743722258it will NEVER be finished up to repentance...
>>743722301>basement and caves are goodAbsolute shit taste. These are the worse one. Yeah, take my previous advice and kys
>>743722301For me its:https://youtu.be/AxLyvIL7CioBut when Im listening to it Im mentally mashing it up with:https://youtu.be/HpGQaUZ5QzsUnfortunately I dont have the mixing skills to demonstrate what playing BoI sounds like to my schizophrenia.
>>743722407Yea, it is what it is
>>743722301Before Repentance, the only themes I would consider solidly "good" and not just "mildly pleasing at best background noise" are:>Sketches of Pain (Chest)>Ascension (Chest Fight)>Morituros (Hush)>Chorus Mortis (Ultra Greed)That's literally it. Repentance was such a step up. I suppose it's because they actually bothered to give songs actual melodies then.
What are your personal QoL mods?
>>743722980>QoLliterally cheating given how much extra momentum you can gain from rush/hush
if you used workshop or opened the dev console then you didn't beat the game and your notepad is forfeit. Only console players have truly beaten the game and their dead god status is untarnished.
>>743723110I already completed the game years ago, long before I got this. Not to mention, I don't like doing either of those, they're pretty boring.
>>743723159Meh. I've beaten the game legitimate on PS4 back in AB+. I know I'm good without the dev console and mods
>>743710645goonslop
>>743723216rush>>>>>>>hush, but theyre both op. So getting to do them while still getting a fuck ton of nickels to buy shot items is just cheating
>>743723963>I'm cheating by not picking up anything form Rush and not fighting Hushhow
>>743724197because you can afford to skip them since you get all the fire nickels and shop items
>>743724226We are taking Rush/Hush out of the equation for the entire run, it makes no difference for you to take 15 mins or 15 secs to put off that fire and get the drop.
>>743724469>implying shop or rush/hush items dont make or break a run because items stop after the first couple of levelsyeah, just spam that R
>>743714104This
>>743724818kek ok yeah you are just trolling now
>>743721823huh blast from the past
>>743722431>>743721834you first filtered tourist.
Has /v/ made any isaac mods?I am making resprite modhttps://files.catbox.moe/g7eupf.webm
>>743714723I just don't get why the boss armor system is so complicated>oh you have a boatload of brimstone damage? Now it's a peashooter>knife is fine thoughGungeon did it right, just limiting the dps to a max value instead of this weird immunity shit
>>743722301>>743726693Incredibly forced
>>743726285Dark times, the weird shipping with lilith was cringe as hell.
>>743726961It's pretty dumb, although I theorize it's some kind of "compromise" to not upset run breakers because in the end if your numbers are high enough you'll oneshot the boss either way so it's like some kind of weird barrier that separates a good build from a busted one
Good game but bitch to talk about because anons are scrubs>>743713345Learn enemy patterns and learn to dance around them. There are only few instances where you are expected to stand still.>>743713959>>743715039These guys are right. You need to learn to minimize damage taken. The guys replying to them and saying "Um akshually" are talking about oranges in topic of apples. Yeah, DPS matters but even with DPS you need to make sure you can avoid shit thrown at you.
So....which child has the biggest ass in this game?
>>743729173All the children are just Isaac in wig
>>743729173A tie between Maggy (fatass bitch) and Lilith (single mother of several children). Beth has a big ass but nothing compared to those behemoths>>743729208Yeah, but read above
>>743729173
>>743717706Im surprised the game is still getting updates arent they planning on making a sequel or something
>>743729420They did make a sequel, it just has a lot of cats instead of naked children
>>743729420Yes, but not yet as they'll keep working on Rep+ for a while
>play online, pick Cain>first treasure room is Tough Love, the luck based tooth shot>beeline it>one player starts going "Wait wait wait we need to talk first before picking up an item">type "I'm Cain, I have highest luck">"Yeah, but still">DisconnectWtf? How would the outcome be any different with "discussing" it?
>>743729420Mewgenics ending reveals the player character is Isaac's mom. The three routes leave leaves Isaac's basement route for DLC
>>743729467Some dudes just don't understand what multiplayer Isaac entails because they don't know the game well enough orhave a desperate need to assign roles based on what you want rather than what your character is good at. I haven't played with randos in forever but last time I did it was full of Judasniggers who took every item, then died like idiots and then disconnected right away. Whenever I play with my friends we play it based on roles like an RPG, I'm Azazel so I need damage and range so I'll leave all the utility and most of the HP to Isaac, you're Eve so I won't go Maggy so you don't lose your WoB and such.
>>743721834The new soundtrack is fine but I will never get over how Angel rooms don't have this https://youtu.be/r6U3IrR0b3w?is=Qu2zqJr2fRYLwmLGplaying anymore. Maybe it doesn't really fit but I don care
does anyone have the pic of Stacy showing off her pussy and asshole from the final Mewgenics credits background
>>743718385I assume he has strange attractor + delirium being funky because he's copying a stationary boss
>>743729173Keeper, sprite's too small to see it
>>743717706Thankfully, I dropped this after trying to get Mother Hard on Lost one too many times years ago and no longer feel the need to play more.
bethany sex
>>743732753Sex with Bethany
>>743729173maggy > lilith >>> bethany > eve
Isaac and his mother
I wish the next update will add some mewgenics stuff
>>743721834Nah you're 100% spot on. The returdulon ost is straight out fucking awful.
>>743735975i'm still waiting on a mod that replaces a certain tranny OC i will not name with the heraldess from mewgenics
>>743721834Yeah this makes me sad. The level with the chicken sounds in the background always pisses me off, even after my first Dead God.
>>743721834nobody has ever said it gets better. it is universally agreed that losing danny's OST was one of the biggest losses when moving on to Rebirth.
>>743715914That anon >>743715039seems to be talking about moment to moment gameplay and not how to build.He has a point that the big break point in getting consistent at isaac depends on how well you can make it through the first floors without taking damage to get your first deal.Learning how to take out enemies such as Clotties patiently without getting hit over just trying to kill them quick is very important to start out.Many of the early floor rooms seem to be almost purposefully designed to make you practice proper strafing, making use of chokepoints and practicing diagonal tear flinging.Also, i'd argue that in Repentance, pure damage builds are not as strong as they used to be. Health is much more important than in Afterbirth with how soul hearts are less common.Generally, i find more success with high health, alright damage runs over high damage no health runs
>>743736232
>>743736889Kill yourself tranny lover
>>743729646I'd really rather have a new set of levels entirely rather than recycling Isaac again for the Nth time.Besides, Mewgenics level themes are kinda crazy, so the Isaac levels would just feel boring by comparison.
>>743710645QRD? im a newfag to this game but didn't know it has eldritch waifus too
>>743737751It doesn't, that's just a female version of the final boss
>First drop is The Moon>First secret room is Epic fetus>First shop is Smelter>First trinket is wicked crown>First Devil Deal is Mom's knifeVanilla doing anything it can to gain my favor
>>743738140>Glitter bombs nowGood lord
>>743710645I stopped playing in like 2019.I supposed they "balanced" the game even further. Did they at least fix Delirium?
I'm getting filtered by Delirium, maybe it's cope but feels like it requires some serious RNG luck to manage, do I just suck?
>>743738258>Did they at least fix Delirium?lol comma lmao
>>743738258Next year, see: >>743717706Yes, it's taken this long
>>743738341Nope, Delirium is the one boss that genuinely sucks balls.>>743718214>>743718337
>>743738341chew. slower.every failed run is a story to tell your friends.
>>743738341working as intended. did you at least record your most bullshit deaths to deli? we love those here
>>743718214Massive skill issue
>>743738341what's wrong bro, you don't like your steak to be leathery and with the likeness of a shoe sole?
been playan the game with friends after not having played it for like 8 years and it's fun
>>743738345>>743738370Just two more weeks, I mean months, I mean years.
>Alt Mom lags because Broken modem>Oneshot her>Boss Rush opens despite being 2 minutes past the deadlineDid I miss an update or is this a bug?
>>743739006It's 25 minutes for the alt path because it's technically one level longer than the normal path.
>>743738962more like decadesif even kilburn and his weaponized autism was driven to madness trying to understand delirium's code there isn't a chance in hell the nicalis monkeys will fix it
>>743739129I see, I'd never noticed that before somehow
>>743739481I dont know if I just suck, or subconciously take way longer doing alt path, but I have only opened the alt path boss rush within 25 minutes twice in 2400 hours, while opening main path boss rush countless of times
lost my all random hard permadeath streak today on 62 runswas feeding a devil begger and my controller desynced for a second and i fed him too man times before i could moveim so mad
>>743710795dear god I didn't know this was possible...this is bad news for me..
>>743710795>>743740836Go in to Secrets in game menu and hold Alt and F2 to sync unlocks with your Steam cheevos
>>743740752>lost my all random hard permadeath streak...Your what now?
>>743714104This unironically.Coomers are so exhausting to be around.Its even worse if you’re a “sex-haver”, because they really worship sex like its something crazy or ascendant.Its exactly that reason they don’t tend to actually have sex.
>>743736846>seems to be talking about moment to moment gameplay and not how to build.i was, yes. movement and memorization of enemy patterns, not defensive items
>>743740752wirelessfags get what they deserve every time
>>743717165I find toy box way too silly since it's just graft tits onto literally everything
My favorite mod doesn't work on plus so I'm just never updating, sorry.
>>743745783Is the cockvore mod really that important to you?
>>743746405Never seen that but I don't doubt it exists
LIVE
>>743749067See: >>743736972
Every single time I pick up Isaac I end up losing interest when doing greed mode unlocksI will never play as the Keeper
>>743710795>broccoli bad
>>743749364Brazazzers
>>743748741>You can keep all swallowed trinkets through victory laps>Also applies for Abyss locusts even if the item was taken awayYou can go on pretty much forever with just this, right? Also, I yearn for a Pica run gamemode.
Who the fuck thought that Jacob and Esau was a good idea? That shit would have been fine for a cancerous challenge, not a whole character
>>743710795>heh, I'm just gonna destroy everything I worked so hard to get because.... LE JOURNEY IS.... LE GOODAutistic people are truly pathetic.
>>743750440imagine getting mad about what other people do in their single player game
>>743715039>>743715914these two (there's no contradiction the second anon is just retarded)
>>743716083>you must get gud or fuck offWhy would I do that when the base combat in the game is boring as fuck.
how do you even get marks as T. Lost and beat Ultra hard?
>>743750420this but for T Laz.
>>743750420This but t. Cain
>>743714723basically every single rouge game has invincibility phases on bosses so that you don't one shot themhades, dead cells etc
I bought the game on last Steam sale because it was 90% off and I enjoy rogue-likes like Hades 2Do I enable the free plus DLC or not? It seems like it's a new official update, but why tf is it optional? Do people hate it?
>>743750650>beat Ultra hard?Hold R until you get any item that generates health.
>>743750871>rouge
>>743750650>Ultra hardConsole a broken build in or hold the hard R until the first treasure rooms give you something broken, it's so not worth it dude. Literally every change is strictly so it's as much of a slog as possible.
>>743751038It's optional because it's technically not finished and still in beta, also some mods don't work on it.
>>743751038So that you can play the version you want.Plenty of mods didn't work on Rep+ for a while, some still don't.
Is there any mandatory mods beyond the Item Description one as a newish player?
>>743751172Just watch the endings on YouTube and move onto the next game in your "backlog".
>>743751052cheating>>743751098cheating> Literally every change is strictly so it's as much of a slog as possible.Wtf does that mean? I beat almost every challenge including the glitch bullshit without cheating with R. But Ultra-hard is one of the ones that's left
>>743751247But I'm having fun
>>743751258Die until you get any item that generates health.
>>743721834The Ridiculon OST took like 3 DLCs to START getting its act together. It came in time for us to get like five actually good songs, all for repentance content.Losing Danny was a fucking tragedy.
>>743751258>Every floor is XL>Every floor is blind>Every floor is lost>Every floor teleports you aroundOh but you can look at your health I guess
>>743751172Item description is baked into the game now once you beat mom.
>>743751258>holding R until you get a less cancerous start is cheatingExplain how.
>>743751415play as it lies as we say in golf
>>743751380oh yeah that's retarded. should be split into two challenges: main ultra hard and "Every curse on every floor"Also HOW THE FUCK do you beat that fucking speed challenge? makes no fucking sense
>>743729646also reveals isaac's mom legitimately is the antichrist or "mother of harlots" and that's not just isaac tweaking while somehow managing to suffocate in a chest with a bigass air hole
>>743711840i like the way the guy says happy in "and they were both happy"
>>743751618That's the case because where it "lies" comes from your own shots in golf. If there was a chance anyone who agreed to play golf had their ball spawn in the middle of the road outside the course, nobody would be going out there to play that ball just because that's "where it lies".
Every fucking time
>>743743493Oh maybe I misinterpreted, but I thought there was a way to reset your steam achievements, and was scared I would be tempted to do it. I've gotten like 6 dead gods already and don't need an excuse to go again.
>>743751258Im the anon above that said I have 6 dead gods, 3 of which were on Switch which you can't cheat. I beat Ultra Hard with placenta like 4/6 times and took like 4 hours. The other 1 I had leach and sigil of Baphomet. I don't remember how I did it the last time, but I remember I crooked pennied a random item that spawned in a normal room and it was Tech X.
>>743751365Caves, Flooded Caves, Burning Basement, Basement, Satan/Mega Satan, Boss Rush, the generic boss themes are all fire and pre-repentance.
>>743750708T. Laz is fun and tactica, probably the most tactical character where you actually have to make choices on your build other than like T. Cain, and T. Isaac which is like a easy mode T. Laz.
>>743752080>fireThey're decent. Antibirth's soundtrack is fire, WotL's soundtrack is fire, Sacrilege is fire, Living in the light is fire
>>743752187I REALLY like the caves and flooded caves. They aren't as melodic as the other OSTs, but they are two of my favourites in the entire Isaac-sphere for atmosphere and being catchy in their own right. I find myself humming them all the time when I play. Also the Mega Satan theme rules, surely you are being to hard on that one.
>>743717706>DELIRIUM 2027It's going to be delayed I'm calling it right now. Delirium 2031.
God why are these kids so hot?Wait uhhhh I do not mean it like that!!
>>743752882Okay but Lilith isn't fair because her whole theme is having kids
>>743750420Just go for angel deals and give all dps to esau
>>743752882i have never once had this thought while playing isaacalso, technically, arent they all just isaac in different outfits
>>743752187Sacrilege so based, this mausoleum theme sounds like it was directly plucked out of an alternate timelinehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHQ_FkX0Cl8
>>743753882In the same way that Isaac is actually fighting Satan and angels, yes
>>743753882Yeah canonically they're all Isaac with impostor syndromeEdmund doesn't like thinking about it very hard since he stammered out "Esau is an imaginary friend" to come up with an explanation for the singleplayer-two player character
>>743753468>Just go for angel dealsyeah just don't get hit while having double the hitboxwhy do people even bother giving this "advice"
>>743752286I didn't like the Caves theme 10 years ago and I don't like it today but I will concede Flooded caves, I was confusing its theme with Dank depths in my mind; it is quite nice and I don't know why but I feel like it vaguely resembles what would later become the Downpour theme in Repentance.The Mega/Satan theme is alright, I don't dislike it but compared to the original flash theme it just falls short in my eyes. It doesn't help that he doesn't actually have his own theme and just recycles regular Satan'shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWPWGk0wvcgI won't tell you I despise the entirety of the soundtrack because I do enjoy Boss rush like you mentioned, the regular boss theme, The Calm, the Cathedral theme or the Shop theme, although I'm not sure if that's just the nostalgia talking, and even then I wouldn't put any of them above the songs in the other soundtracks, or even over anything in Repentance.
>>743750420J&E are the only character I've cheated all the marks for because the character is actively unfun
>>743754079Youre not supposed to be getting hit like a scrub.The only time the second hitbox becomes a problem is sheol/cathedral and beyond, which you should be roflstomping rooms by that point.
>>743754146Unironically git gud. They're really challenging but they have a lot of tricks and things you can abuse (outside Greedier of course). t. Cain on the other hand, even when there were recipes, fuck that character, you can sink an hour in a run and still come out with just shit items because you had bad recipe luck, I pretty much just did the first couple floors on repeat until I managed to craft Godhead or Sacred heart and then just rolled with whatever
>>743754079Just stop bitching and hold R then. I dont know why you fags have a hard time playing this game. Its easy up until T Lost and Ultra Hard desu
>>743753882>i have never once had this thought while playing isaacThis was me until I played Antibirth and discovered this semen demon
>>743754417>>743754251so yes, effectively, "just don't get hit" as advicesome real mental titans around here
>>743754312T.cain is easy.Just grab shit and throw it in the bag, be mindful of what contributes positively to a recipe like special hearts or higher tier pickups, dont throw too much filler low tier drops in. Make sure to pick up enough base consumables for yourself to be alive and to access special roomsYou can stomp the game by just having a copious amount of a singular basic staple craft from the boss pool, like having spaghetti every day for dinner.Anyone who tried to spreadsheet their way through their tcain runs never thought of playing the game like a klepto racoon. Just swipe everything that looks even slightly useful its not like you have a limited inventory.
>>743754417t. Lost is one of the easier tainted characters, what are you talking about? Yeah, you die in one hit but mastering Isaac's movement is not really hard and due to his inherent ability you'll have broken builds more often than not, not even mentioning if you lose the mantle you have higher chances of just finding another Holy card around. I'd rank t. Cain, t. Jacob, t. Eden and even t. ??? over him when it comes to difficulty because, unlike with t. Lost and other characters, their bullshit feels like it's out of your control for the majority of the time until you master them
>>743754073if isaac can image himself as a pregnant demoness he can also imagine his own clone for an imaginary friend
>>743754504Its really that easy though, have you tried doing it?Stack some soul hearts to protect your angel/devil chance, and dont go into the first devil room to guarantee an angel.
Nice gitgud arms race you got here lads.
>>743754656>Anyone who tried to spreadsheet their way through their tcain runs never thought of playing the game like a klepto racoonI think I'm going fucking insane because I swear I've read the "klepto racoon" shit here before years ago back when I was first doing Dead God and I lost so many runs following that advice because for over a hundred runs I didn't get decent damage/tears up in any of them until I just raced to a cheap Q4 Angel item and then I began seeing progress
>>743754692I haven't played much of Repentance yet, but I'm genuinely convinced that Tainted Lost is easier to play than Lost in vanilla Rebirth.
>>743750420there is a timeline where edith was picked as the weird character from antibirth to get ported to rep and i am upset that i am not living in it
>>743755103Yeah that was probably me.Ive never had issues with tcain, both before and after the removal of seeding.He became a lot more fun to me when I decided fuck the spreadsheet, just make a leftovers stew. Knowing that heart types and drop quality were directly related to craft quality is all I needed to optimize a little.You cant break the game like isaac but you get so many items that a break almost happens by accident.
consider me filtered
>>743755940When even the fuckers that created J&E say that a character was removed because it was dogshit and unfun to play, then it must've been a truly awful character. Do you really want a character like that?
>>743756165Beast is easy.Mother is a bit tricky, but has no bullshit during the fight, just learn the patterns.
>>743756247>just learn the patternsah I see
>>743710795I never understood the broccoli hate. They taste fine.
>>743718214>>743718337>>743738490>>743738734
>>743756326Psyop pushed by big media because their mom's were terrible cooks.
>>743756298Yes. Just learn the patterns. It ain't hard.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1tycgbAvz8
>>743756198idk how edith looked like and felt like playing in development but the workshop renditions i have played of her were awesome and probably my favorite character mods. the one where you aim a crosshair and then press shift to stomp over there was a challenge to get used to at first, but it was the cool kind where i felt i was having fun even if i fucked up, because the character had their own strengths to offset the weaknesses and weirdness. really enjoyed it.it may just be an unpopular opinion thing then, just like how there are a few players out there who swear by j&e actually being good and fun to play.
>>743756596ah, okay
>>743753882>also, technically, arent they all just isaac in different outfits
>become a god at Isaac, to the point I don't even remember what it feels like to be bad at the game and not know every little mechanic>get mewgenics>filtered in 15 hoursI know I could probably get just as into it as I did Isaac, but its hard being a shitter again. Honestly why I stopped playing Dead Cells too.
>>743757151I'm a huge Isaac fan too and was very much looking forward to Mewgenics, but when I got around to it, it's just so exhausting and irritating to play (and intentionally so), almost purely due to the management gameplay outside of the actually fun roguelite experience.
>>743757283Mewgenics is badly designed. Isaac is very elegant and simplistic, which is the opposite of how Mewgenics does it. It has way too much fake depth (mental busywork).
>>743757283Honestly, that might be why. I don't really have a clue what I am doing in the management side, and everything is so expensive feels like progress is a crawl on that side. I see "0/25 retired cats donated" and think thats going to take forever and lose motivation
>>743756165I wish the Beast was actually hard
>>743751391Is that so? I didn't know the game let you install mods and still unlock stuff after you killed Mom, so I played for a while without that mod and I didn't see any descriptions.
>>743757523did you install repentance+? it's not automatic
>>743757364Yeah, it feels like Mewgenics wanted to be "bigger and better" than Isaac, but adding tangential unrelated crap/grind onto a tight experience does not make the the fun part of the experience any better. Mewgenics was conceived with the house gameplay fundamentally so unfortunately the game is always going to be dragged down by it.I felt this pretty early on when the game released and now that the discussion/hype has dwindled, it's comforting to know that other people feel this way too.I hear DLC might salvage it and have a mode where one can skip that aspect entirely but that really feels like a cheap solution.Also, there are a number of irritations with the actual roguelite experience, like the vague descriptions, the janky combat speed, and the events. I think events/skill checks could be removed entirely and wouldn't be missed because they're either minor boons at best or "kills the run's flow entirely" at worst. Once you've experienced their flavor they just become irritations.All of this versus Isaac which is just like, pick up and play, have a great time synergizing, exploring and fighting, no interruptions, no irritations, go at your own pace. The worse it gets is curses which besides Blind don't affect your run very much at all.
>>743757675Oh, no. I read it was still in beta, so I dismissed it.
>>743757523Its tucked in an option menu, is off by default.
>>743757783Mewgenics feels like one of those games where the developers compensate for apparent lack of depth with more stats and crap to manage. It shows a lack of confidence in the core design.
>>743757364>Mewgenics is badly designed. Isaac is very elegant and simplisticIsaac wishes it was half as good as Mewgenics. Even during a bad run, I can still get fun out of Mewgenics compared to "Please give me some damage already!"
>>743757783>the vague descriptionsSame issue as Isaac>the janky combat speedThere's an option to increase it>and the eventsSame issue Isaac has, but in the shape of DnD. At least Mewgenics gives you better options to deal with those.
>>743757832it might as well not even be called a beta anyways, it's practically finished with just some few kinks to work outjust be aware that some mods might not work properly yet
>>743721834Antibirth OST is great. they should've just ported it over with repentance
>>743757783Mewgenics took 14 years of on-and-off development and it shows. It is a mishmash of ideas sporadically thrown in between development of other games
>>743757956I think Mewgenics' core gameplay is solid and more artfully composed than Isaac's. The issue is that that fun is very fleeting, hard to attain, and can be very quickly taken away. In an age of absolute overabundance of games, I don't like ones that require me to do so much busywork to enjoy them.>>743758076>Same issue as IsaacEID is cooked into the base game now partly and I've had the mod for so long that I consider it part of the base game. It does a much better job than Mewgenics does at explaining the game. There's a lot more on the line in a Mewgenics run than an Isaac run and descriptions are even more vital in a strategy game. Some bosses have intentionally vague descriptions. Event outcomes are also not detailed.>Janky combat speedSorry for phrasing it poorly, but what I meant is that the game has a lot of downtime (unskippable animations, etc.) and a combat speed option in a menu is not a good solution. The game needs a quick fast forward button and animations like level ups, combat begin/end, map traversal, etc. need to be faster/skippable.>EventsNot really? There's nothing in Isaac as lethal to your run as some of Mewgenics' worse event outcomes. Picking up a bad item or using a bad pill is always a decision you chose to make, they aren't arbitrarily forced upon you. Curses are the game's equivalent and again there is hardly anything as debilitating there.
>>743756165The Mother and the Beast have attack patterns explicitly designed to be fair and beatable while Delirium is just choosing random boss behaviours while speeding up and releasing bullet patterns. In order from fun to least fun, I'd say it's like this:>Mother - Pretty damn fun. Attacks are telegraphed nicely so that even with low damage you can still dodge them and feel skilled when doing so. Satisfying to beat and hard not to get upset at if you do lose.>The Beast - Mostly fun, but the final segment where you dodge stalagmites is a little underwhelming for a boss so grandiose.>Delirium: Hit or miss. If you have low damage but a high fire rate, Delirium speeds up faster than you can drain his health bar, increasing the chances of getting telefragged the longer the fight drags on. There's always a small sense of dread because of this, which is interesting for a boss in Isaac, but probably not good in this context.>>743749067Siren fatposting is half a decade old already. Where does the time go?
>>743758621Use Plan C irl.
>>743710645Isaac is like someone took a game they don't like and then tried to make it work on people who don't like it by shoving in gacha rolls after each room. It appeals to the gambling brain.You will be 10x stronger or 10x weaker all just because of luck. When you are 10x stronger the game just play by itself. When you are 10x weaker you might aswell just kys and restart. Rooms can also be really easy or really hard, randomly.You aren't playing a game. You are doing bare minimum to push the game forward while it unfolds in front of you.
>>743758097I'll install it then. I just got the game during the last big sale, so I haven't been paying attention to the modding side of it. People always bring up EID, and checking the wiki for every item gets tedious fast, so that's the only one I cared to have.
>>743726841I've made a few. I really love Isaac modding. The API is SHIT but in a way that leaves everything possible, just requires you to get creative with it. Every good Isaac modder has a catalogue of esoteric trivia that they've picked up they can use to navigate certain thorny situations.Speaking of I really hate Rep+. It fucked over the modding API just a little bit (not in a fun way), ten months ago, and they haven't attempted to fix it.
>>743758621>Siren *posting is half a decade old alreadydamn, fun times
>>743760547Read the other reply.
>>743760547this mod never got released did it? many such cases
>LILITH HABIT OH ITS BIRTHING TIIIIIME. I just started playing her and mother already down. I m gonna do the entire thing shes so fun to play
>>743761147Wait until you get to Greed/ier, easily the best character there
>>743761808oh ive went on a greedier spree earlier and did it on everyone. shes busted in these environments yea
>>743761147Lilith was one of my least favourite characters, mostly for the early game though, having to drag that thing and kill basic enemies around corners grinds my gears.
>>743764841shes the goat frfr
>>743765526Must be the horns
>>743716256I like that guy videos, he is super positive and make the videos more enjoyable.Unfortunately he sometimes uses they/them when referencing to people or things and I remember he is a fag at the end, oh well
>>743754079Devil deals are even worse for them so...
>>743766496Bigger
BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOOOOOOOLY SPIRIT!
>>743766904(he meant fatter, specifically)
>>743712136it looks like she just gave birth to a TV and the umbilical cord hasn't been cut yetalso why is there a random sperm floating up above?
>>743767967No, I mean bigger.
>>743767967Don't put words into a sizefag's mouth you snobby little bugger, he meant giantess-bigger
>>743758621>spoilerdoes this drawfag still make things? do anyone of them still do or have they been swept up by the trials of life in search of financial stability?>>743766496same question here.
>>743768274if either of the answers are a yes and you fucking reply with a scuba gear request.
>>743768274This is the artist of the big beast Siren:https://nabella.newgrounds.com/
>>743710795I did some math of my own
>>743768740We got a bunch of drawfags back during the Rep release, did anons find the names for those? In the current times the concept of drawfag seems foreign now that I think about it. Rep was when AI was just starting to get attention.
>>743756521My mom is the worst cook that I know and even she can make broccoli that tastes good. How the FUCK do you fuck up broccoli?
>>743769540I posted some OC in the thread today
>>743769540I was there for Repentance's release and drew some stuff...
>>743769391Broccoli and homework cancels out the eager expression?
>>743768546>you fucking reply with a scuba gear request.???what??
>>743771353a requestfag who lurks most boards and prods any drawfags about drawing X character in scuba gear swimming underwater, it would seem harmless if not for the fact that he's been doing this for nearly half a decade.
>>743760547it's not like this place or the internet in general were "good" at all back then but man, I did not appreciate how we had it, considering how bad things would get
>>743771592There's still plenty of trans OCs you can jerk off to, faggot.
>>743768274he used to draw stuff in 100% OJ threads like 10 years ago, he's off doing his own thing now.
>>743772048>100% OJ threads like 10 years agoDid Repentance really come out 10 years ago? You're talking about Rebirth, right?
Come out Harlot i wont jump you i swear.
>>743772446Repentance is based off a mod called Antibirth which is about 10 years old now.
Candy heart has HARDcarried so many of my runs by now its insanely good. How is it not AT LEAST tier 3 lmao.
>>743772872>The Beast unlock
>>743773048yea i completed my goat Maggy the Immortal Bad Bitch first.
>>7437724462021 was 11 years ago, Anon...
>>743751858they say that in poker too and it has an element of randomness
>>743772446anon you know people are allowed to do different things in between 2 points in time, right? the original image in this replychain has the megamush in it which was Repentance-era Isaache also one of the artists for https://store.steampowered.com/app/3894520/Keines_Expanding_Class/ if you like BEhe likes em big
>>743751038>>743757283>>743757783None of these games are roguelikes.
@743773784give us a term we should use instead :)
remember the serious sam schizo? time sure flies
>>743774081Isaac is nothing. Not a roguelike. Not a bullet hell. It's nothing. Play a real roguelike, and you'll realise Isaac is nothing like it. No, having a couple projectiles on the screen that you can dodge by circling doesn't make it a bullet hell either. There is no category for Isaac. It's nothing.
@743774369well I have a lot of fun with it :)i'm sorry i can't enjoy the correct video games :(
>>743774369It is a top down shooting roguelite.
>>743769540you may have forgotten now but for a long time drawfags were run out of isaac threads constantly for various retarded reasons from "the game should be edgy, no cutesy shit" to "they're all kids fuck off" to "siren ruined everything I don't want to see drawfags anymore" that there aren't any more now is the threads for being dicks
>>743774916Shitrenfags deserved it, I want art of Isaac characters, and not some tranny's sore thumb of a self-insert.
>>743774916I thought it was because Isaac threads were banished to /vg/ and thread discussion kept going in circles.
>>743775184he says, posting shitren without spirit of the night
>>743774426There is nothing wrong with enjoying Isaac. There is something deeply wrong with calling it a roguelike.>>743774471It's not. Roguelikes are simultanious turn grid movement games. Anything else is not a roguelike. End of.
>>743774916no it was more like people were starting to get sick of kilburn's endless promises of patching the game and just beat the game in its current state and moved on. including drawfags.this started the /vg/-isation of the threads. shittier and shitter drawfags started drawing siren exclusively since those trannies and their toxic positivity + zero standards meant they gobbled up anything even resembling that troon's self insertthen some blessed schizo had enough and started spamming links to /vg/ which woke the jannies up and that was the end of the threads
>>743775580Roguelite. Not roguelike. The terms were invented for a reason.>nuh uh you're only allowed to say roguelike and Isaac isn't oneRetard.
>>743769391Kek
>>743774916Watch out, you implied posting Siren wasn't the end of the world, now they'll get you.
>>743774916shut the fuck up. the drawfag backlash was because people stopped playing the game (waiting for kilburn's "late june" that arrived in like fucking november) and with every passing day there was less and less game discussion, and full-on drawfag simping. mostly for siren (sag's oc) but don't think retards lusting after bethany (kilburn's oc) or lilith were any better>you now remember the siren archive full of THOUSANDS of shitty mspaint doodles
>>743775810post it
>>743775882why in the FUCK would i have saved a link to a landfill of toddler doodles of some troon's oc?
>>743769391I like how the slightly folded neutral face becomes a separate variable than the regular neutral face
>>743775675Roguelite is not a real category. A category shares games with features in common that all games in the category have. Nothing is shared among all roguelites.
