Really shows no one cares about physical games
>>743713019>this year>in the US>doesn't include resalewow it's fucking nothing
>>743713019This is my fault for being too lazy to do disc swaps
>>743713019don't release any games guys the games aren't selling
>>743713019Maybe sony should release some games.
>>743713019No shit, it's just performative outrage from a vocal minority of redditors. The PS6 boycott is going to go down as one of the biggest boycott failures in history. Gamers and boycotts do not mix
>>743713019How many retail ps5 games even released this year
>>743713019Ps5 has games?
>>743713019What games even came out on PS5 this year?
>>743713710What games even came out on PS5
>>743713339It won't go down as one of the biggest because it'll just be like every other video game boycott. Nothing at release and no one cares.
>>743713019That shinobi guy is a known massive shill. I recall when he shilled Mass Effect Andromeda and seethed when people didn't like it and he did the same thing for Dragon Age 4 and Suicide Squad.
>>743713019If buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing, simple as
>>743713019>Really shows no one cares about physical gamescorrect
>>743713339I still haven't bought a pokemon game since dexit26 million sales - 1
>>743713339>The PS6 boycott is going to go down as one of the biggest boycott failures in history. Gamers and boycotts do not mixDis
>>743713736The same one that came out on PS3
>>743713019>physical
>>743714356>tl: im a happy cuck!
Roblox
>>743713019Performative discfags are all going to fold and pull their cash out of their ass when PS6 gets unveiled along with God of Snoy 8 and Resident Evil HD Remake REmake
>>743713339When was the last time a boycott over anything worked? Hell, when was the last time a boycott didn't make the corpos in question even richer because of people supporting them out of spite?
>[Foreskin Crinkling News]why do you post like this?
>Xeet from a literal ResetEra S*nygger
what were they
>>743713019Isn't the PS5 the console where the disc drive is a separate purchase?
I don't think I've heard a louder minority than the physical retards ever before thisSony has a million stats to backup that physical is niche and these retards keep shouting to the heavens to keep it. holy fuck I can't take it
>>743714505Seeing losers have hope that they can do anything pisses me off.
>>743713019[Shocking News] There are 7 PS5 games
>>743713019isn't that their whole library?
>>743713339>The PS6 boycott is going to go down as one of the biggest boycott failures in history.I seriously doubt that. they don't make good video games anymore. they charge you monthly to use your own internet. complete walled garden. and now digital only. the only thing that really matters is the first thing, but sony and xbox are dying. and nintendo is running low on goodwill after all their switch 2 bullshit
>>743713152>implying anyone but US chads can even afford gamesyou sell 300 copies in yuropooristan and it's breaking records lmao
>buying digital snoyslopIshyddt
Anyone have the proof of bots being deployed in a campaign against physical games? Was literally posted yesterday and this thread is transparent as hell
>>743713152>resaleAnon, Sony just publicly stated that there is no such thing. Physical sales are an extreme minority, and physical resales are an extreme minority of an extreme minority. Less than 1% of sales are physical resales.Or are you claiming Sony is lying?
>sony is majority owned by blackrockif consumers don't kill sony, blackrock will force it to commit suicide anyway.
>>743714818Most snoys are unthinking browns and dysgenic white trash. I expected this
>>743713339>>743713019Maybe if they made actual games worth buying for PS6 it would be different? I mean look at the fucking Switch 1 and 2 physical sales.
>>743714861Seeing as even Sony's games are majority physical, yes. Not to mention the disc model of the PS5 is by far the best selling and makes up the vast majority of all units.
>ps5 has no gamesyeah no shitYou're fighting the wrong fight. It's not about physical media, but DRM instead. What if you could download a game and it's yours? You can burn it to a disc, transfer it to a storage device, give it or sell it to someone else, etc.
>2025: game keycards what the fuck is THIS nintendo you SHITS>2026: um acktually nintendo is the last bastion of physical game ownership
>PS5 has no gam-ACK
>>743713019>More than 100k copies That framing is retarded because it implies that they just barely broke 100k when it could be 20 million. Also Twitter thread made by some brown retard and posted by you, another brown retard. Sony can eat a dick. The post is still retarded.
Sony games are usually shallow enough you can get enjoyment from watching a stream instead. You can support the artists by buying the soundtrack or something.
>>743713019>Really shows no one cares about physical gamesNo it shows Snoys don't buy games in general.
>>743714861He's talking about the secondhand market retard.>b-b-but that doesn't improve Sony's bottom line!!!Yes, which is why you see the outcry is much bigger than the spreadsheet financials would suggest.
>>743713019>exactly 7 games have sold more than 100k physical copies this yearit's funny how when they want to prove a point they suddenly find access to those ever elusive "copies sold" totals. why not give us their usual like how many total hours have been played on physical copies this year?
>>743715356Yeah bro all them PS5 games people are buying at used game stores. You know like uh...
>>743715149>>743715376cope
>>743715356>Yes, which is why you see the outcry is much bigger than the spreadsheet financials would suggestYeah but why would they care about people that don't generate them money. they sell the console at a lose so people buy the games new and subscriptions. A resale is worthless to them
>>743713339cope sony pony
>>743715452>so pissy he can't even formulate a reply and just shrieks his buzzword into the void sad
>>743713019Have 7 games come out on the PS5 this year with physical releases? Here are what I know of with physical releases this year:Code Vein 2Dragon Quest VII ResloppedAvowedNioh 3ScreamerMonster Hunters Stores 3Legend of Heroes Trails Beyond the HorizonResident Evil RequiemMarathonHalo: CEMistfall HunterSo 11 titles so far with physical copies this year. I'm surprised 7 of those 11 sold anything at all. MHS3, RER, Nioh 3, and Code Vein 2 are the only games on this list with any wide appeal on the PS5. So this is basically meaningless. That said it is HILARIOUS. I love Sony doubling down on their sinking ship.
>>743713019>physical games now require installation and updates to work, completely negating the benefits of physical media>dlc means physical games are missing content>ps5 becomes a paperweight without internet thanks to online DRM. if the servers go down, your disc drive stops working>OP the cocksucker twists statistics to claim people don't care about physical at all when the real problem is nuconsoles are locked down tighter than an ipad and cucked beyond redemption
>>743713339see >>743716128
>>743713152why the fuck should it include resaleyou do know that buying second hand actively discourages producing physical, right?
Ban twitter screenshot threads
>>743713019That's a straight fucking lie lol.
>>743713019damn, playstation really is already dead isn't it? it's just a genshin & fortnite box nowadays.
>>743713019oh yeah?what are these 7 games?and what are 7 games that released this year that didn't
>>743713019We went from snoy /v/ marketers for using this example of: good guy sony for years on endTo suddenly: here's why Don Mattrick was making the correct move he just moved too early. It's been hilarious seeing the Sony fanboy turn around on this issue. At the very least it shows that Sonys fans are braindead cattle and deserve all of the counter bullying they've received on here. If this was never a big issue then why did they smear Xbox with Mattrick every single time?
>>743713019Really funny how the same handful of accounts post the exact same Sony propaganda at the same time.
>>743716527>you do know pro consumer practices hurt the hecking billion dollar company right???????
Well yeah no one buys fucking physical anymore
>>743716962no, it's pro pennypincher reselling is literally an excuse that they can use to take physical awayyou should've kept your nose to the pavement, consolecuck, you're bragging about events that caused your own doom
>>743716872Lel, all nintendo and hexbox have to do is keep releasing physical games and sony is buttfucked. They gave up the free marketing of having shelf space. No ones going to buy games off a code card. Especially parents buying Christmas or birthday presents for timmy or jamal or paco
I couldn't name seven playstation games that came out this year
>>743713019The PS5 has games?
>ps5>games
>>743717187OP's post includes multiplats. so it's pretty fucking sad that they can't even sell 100k copies of ANY game per month.
>>743713710Saros and Marathon, the latter doesn't even have a physical copy.
>>743713152Who's even doing the resale anyways, Amazon?
>>743717470gamestop
>>743714356>AI image argument
>>743714861Yes, I'm claiming Sony is lying with 100% accuracy
>>743714861>are you claiming Sony is lying?unironically yes, I am claiming that the company jewishly trying to rape their audience is lying about presenting evidence directly supporting said rape
Daily reminder: Sony will never be your friend. Keep begging them to reverse their final decision if you want. They don't give a fuck about you. If anything, they'll just find another way to make your experience worse and slap another anti-consumer policy on top of it.Stop simping for them. Sony has been milking and screwing its customers for years, yet some of you still defend every dumb decision like unpaid shills. At this point, if you keep rewarding every anti-consumer move with your wallet, don't complain when they bend you over again. You're teaching them that you'll buy anything, no matter how badly they treat you.Snoyggers are 100% masochistic cucks.
>>743716872>We went from snoy /v/ marketers for using this example of: good guy sony for years on endYeah, and it worked great.
>>743715452What's the cope?
>>743715456Well that thinking has led people to (allegedly) abandon PlayStation, so let's see how PS6 flops, or if gaymers truly are just mindless cattle who will let a corporation openly fuck them in the ass.
>>743714861>are you claiming the devil himself is lying?
>>743713019I still have no reason to buy a physical PS5 console let along any games for it.
>>743713019No games to buy.
Oh no! I can't but the shittiest games imaginable (sony games) physically for the worst possible console (digital only ps6) im gonna kill myself!!!
>>743715063i have a ps5 with disc drive since it came out and have never bought a physical disc. its just ps plus freebies and the big exclusive tentpoles that i bought digital
>>743720060Good goy
>>743715086>You're fighting the wrong fight. It's not about physical media, but DRM instead.But DRM is already a foregone conclusion on consoles. Physical media is a good compromise for a lot of people: you buy the game, you physically own a copy of it that can be played offline, you don't need to connect to a server. That's the closest a console can come to freedom from DRM. Console players don't benefit from GOG-like offline installers, and this is their issue.
I cant mentally deal with these >tweet>random stats>circana>can we see the source? : noposts
>>743714326same, so -2I might give Arceus a chance though
>>743714861Ebay. I've sold 2 games myself thus year. Pragmata and Saros.
>>743714356AI can’t even generate a goddamn coffee cup WTF is that lmfao
See the thing is, people shouldn't be complaining no disc drive. They should be complaining about Sony's policy when it comes to digital games.People wouldn't care if Sony was like Valve. 20+ year backlog that can be played at any time. Delisted games can be downloaded whenever you want. You have the option to buy keys from websites like Fanatical, Humble, GMG etc for cheaper. The main issue is that consoles have no pro-consumer stuff when it comes to buying digital. That is why people should be mad. Inb4 some console fanboys say "but Valve is only letting you buy le licence too!"Steam account is 21 years old, I can still download and play every single game. 2,500 games.
>>743721171I'd miss used games. Been renting since I was kid.
>>743713019US is about 1/3rd split of total sales. Say physical is 15% that would be 7 games that sold over 2m on PS5 alone so far this year. Seems about right?What the fuck does PS5 even have this year that could even potentially sell well on physical? Requiem, Pragmata, First Light, Crimson Desert, LEGO Batman? Black Flag? I can't even think of a 7th lmao
>>743715887>>743721306Oh I just realized that it's including games from 2025 and earlier as well.Maybe GTAV? RDR2? 7 sounds low until you realize that PS5 has basically no games.
What new games even came out for PS5 this year? Ass Creed: Blacked Fag? Saaros? All the big 2026 hitters like sports games and wolverine aren't out yet
>>743721765RE9, 007 First Light, crimson desert, idk if all those had physical versions
>>743721765The 7 are probablyGhost of YoteiRequiemPragmataCrimson DesertGTAV007 First LightFC26
>>743713019>make shitty games>wtf no one is buying physical!?
>>743713019You know people complain about disks is not because they are cd addicts. Honestly, it gets quite the hassle when you want to switch games often. Where you have to unload the cd, put it into the cd box, then search for the game you want to play, load that in and hope you are in the mood for it otherwise you'll be doing this for like 15 minutes. People are against it is because when the online stores shut down, so does your game library. Look at PS3, the first Playstation to have online store and guess what? Many people lost countless amount of games because of that. And the worst part is they won't even refund you, thats why they call it a "license" and not just ownership. You see just last month Sony got rid of countless movies and refused to pay people back because they only purchased the rights to use it, not to own it. Like this Sony will gain 100% ownership of its market, which means they can do whatever they want, whenever they want. They can remove half of your library and you wouldn't even be able to anything about it. Yes this generation is fine from that, but what about PS6 and PS7? Sure they aren't even released yet but look. Its like as if PS3 just released yesterday and its already shutting down. In a decade or two those consoles would be nothing but hollow statues that represents the experiences you could've played today, but lost because some out-of-the-head psycho thinks gaining 4% more revenue despite already having enough money to keep the engines lit for decades. This isn't about games, you know what forget those. We can live without it, yes. What about houses? Nearly every youngblood is forced to pay rent to survive? Literally being forced to own a scooter, because a car is expensive just as the damn house, and even a damn scooter's price is enough to make you starve for 2 days every week. This isn't about some silly hobby fans fighting for nothing. This is about our future, you and i, because if we do nothing we will own nothing
Something you are also missing. Sometimes it is preferable to buy the ps4 version of the game since it will also work on the ps5 and sometimes auto-update to the ps5 version. I'm sure most people still own ps4s and find this to be the best option overall.
>>743724583The PS5 box looks better so I generally buy that instead if it's an option. Well there was only a handful of games that were on both that I actually bought because I rarely buy games on Playstation but yeah.
How do you track the gray market
>>743721171Sony is a closed ecosystem with no meaningful exclusives that charges you an extra fee just to play online. Physical games were the only reason anyone tolerated that horseshit.
>>743719732The only one that will die is Sony because we move to greener pastures.
>>743724907lmao. the entire console ecosystem is just people too dumb or poor to buy a pc. nothing will change here, this is the "mw2 boycott" of this generation. shit, you saw it with the switch 2 launch too>wtf $80 games, game key carts, and [random other made up bullshit]?! i'm not buying it!!! fuck nintendo!!!>*buys switch 2 day 1*
>>743715139At least it says it clear as day that it's a key card on the package. Sony and MS are more sneaky about it. Not that i'm glazing Nintendo since they are worse than everyone else in their own unique way.
>>743714575You are welcome to dystopia, brother. Don't say we didn't warn you.
>>743713019>45 year old guy in what looks like his childhood room with a wall of dust covered junk shills physical gamesNotice its always the same phenotype saying discs good.
>>743725321as opposed to a thirdie in a shack/commie block downloading free games off the internet because he has literally no other options due to poverty?
These threads are literally null and void since Sony got caught using bots and shills to spread FUD over discs.
>>743726126they're such unbelievable scumbags.
im just going to post this, sony has 1 factory producing 600,000 discs per day with around 300,000 used for playstation games. if they were not being sold they would not be produced thats 1 factory, they are going digital for monopoly reasons and to not lose money producing discs the retail middle man and no second hand marketanyone and i mean anyone like this op post with a twitter jew saying otherwise is pushing their digital agenda
>>743726156And retarded. Why the hell would they shit their pants like this in GTA6 Year? And why did they (and everyone else) go "hold my beer" when Nintendo was catching shit for announcing "just" a $50 hike for the Switch 2? It's like these companies now see their competitors' fuckups as greenlights/smokescreens to do even more spectacularly stupid shit themselves rather than opportunities to at least momentarily curry favor with customers and boil them gradually.
>>743713152Holy mother of copes
The ps5 has7 games?
I see a lot of comments like "I've gone all digital since 2010 but errm its important to have options".Gamers are to blame for this. They don't buy physical. You look like a crazy man buying physical anyway."I'm aware the game came out a week ago and I do want to play it but Amazon has delayed my order and Gamestop is out I need to have my license key on a plastic circle I put in the console I refuse to have my license key attached to an online account.""This is really important because in over 20 years I will have access to a day 1 unpatched version of the game and you possibly won't lol who will be laughing then??"
Do you think when GTA6 releases it'll only sell 100k copies? Do you think the average /v/ or reddit goon will remember that their boycott once it releases?
>>743721171I can still download every Xbox 360 game I purchased too but its ridiculous to think this will last forever.
>>743728998>but its ridiculous to think this will last forever.On Xbox, yes. Why? Because everything Xbox-related belongs to MS. They can shut down every single Xbox server tomorrow and you can do jack shit about it.
>>743713019wait WHAT?>[BREAKING NEWS] The PS5 has 7 games
>>743713152It is even better>only 7 games>only the first 6 months>only the US>no holiday sales>no total salesMeanwhile official data from Sony shows 70 million physical sales in 2025. It is the usual cherrypicking.
>>743713339>Snoys and boycotts don't mixFTFY they are subservient cattle
>>743714356>only the fourth quarter of 2025>conveniently skips 70 million disc sold in 2025For a while I believed this is just trolling but now I understand that rabbid snoy cocksuckers are terrified this will kill their box.
>>743716128>physical games now require installation and updates to work, completely negating the benefits of physical mediaWhy do people believe this shit? doesitplay shows the majority of PS5 games are playable from disc install. Smartphones made people like this? Where they believe if something is not up to date then it is unusable?>dlc means physical games are missing contentMost DLCs are garbage. If I don't buy the $85 DLC's for AC Black Flag I didn't play the game?>ps5 becomes a paperweight without internet thanks to online DRM. if the servers go down, your disc drive stops workingIt won't stop working but pairing is indeed an issue. However it is easy to fix with an update which is easier to achieve than using a dead store to pruchase games.>OP the cocksucker twists statistics to claim people don't care about physical at all when the real problem is nuconsoles are locked down tighter than an ipad and cucked beyond redemptionYes but people try to handwave away the issue of physical while they did or will do nothing to fix digital rights. All killing discs will achieve is removing the last leverage people have over companies. Just like how the EU sent Stop Killing Games away they will always find an excuse to not enforce any kind of serious legalization.
>>743716872Fans are actually outraged by this, fanboys are the retards but this is nothing new. Believe it or not Xbox still has fanboys who change their stance every other week, depending on what xbox shits out that morning.
>>743713339>ps5 sales have slowed down so hard, it seems doubtful it will catch up to the 4>the ps6 is rumored to be anywhere from 1000 to 1500 bucks>PS6 BOYCOTT WON'T WORK JUST CONSUMEHahaha.
>>743714567THINKING?
>>743713019What games?
>7>this yearbullshit, there was less than 7 new games this year so far.
>>743725116>worse than everyone else in their own unique way.Hahaha, not even close you gigafaggot.
>>743714356Me on the right
>>743713019>only 7and how many digitally sold more than 100k in the US this year?0?
>>743730598Its common knowledge to wait a few months before buying anything because games launch buggy as fuck.Id rather just have no game than a shitty day 1 build some dude online says is "playable**".
>>743714861Has any Corporation ever told the truth about anything?
>>743715210>Sony decides to put their movie games on year long console exclusivity>PC players either already played on their ps5 or watched the movie already>Hype for the game is dead because it's been a whole year>PC players don't buy the movie game they already played on twitch/youtube>Sony says this is a failure of the PC market and they will be taking their exclusivity elsewhere
>>743718076Yeah this is the correct answerIts obviously extremely misrepresented to blame the consumer for being rapedThis is evidenced that ps5 sold 70m physical copies last year and now we're saying "only 7 games could crack 100k"Which means absolutely fucking nothing
>>743714575>Sony has a million stats to backup that physical is nicheMay I see them?
>>743725091Yeah that's still consoles main appeal is you buy the video game box that plays video gamesBuying a PC, to us sounds easy because we know what hardware means. We know what an i5 is, we know what 32gb ram means, we know what a rtx 5060 is.Console tards don't know what any of that means so they get scammed into buying a cyber power piece of shit that breaks in 2 months because they used a chinkshit motherboard or they have to research what the fuck all this computer terminology means before they even buy a computer, not to mention learn how to game on it
>>743731392>This is evidenced that ps5 sold 70m physical copies last year and now we're saying "only 7 games could crack 100k">Which means absolutely fucking nothingYeah surely more games than ever are being printed so hundreds of games could be selling hundreds of thousands a year physically worldwide... but just not 100k in the US alone.
>>743731038>it is common knowledgeComes from high profile fuckups. Most games are perfectly playable from disc/cart. It is the same when an alarming number of casuals, especially on Nintendo consoles think modern disc games are like key cards with no data because Call of Duty and a few big games do that. They read the headlines every few months and think every game is like that.Doesitplay is not some dude, if you don't believe a hardcore community built their purchasing habits around knowing everything about physical releases then I don't know what to say. There are collectors out there with databases that follow the different version numbers of games because especially on Switch there are late or re-releases with all the patches applied. In fact a number of third party indies on Switch started doing "digital day 1 physical a month or so later" for a while now. Tinfoil hat conspiracies aside (they want you to get the digital asap) it gives you a physical with the "must have" patches. There are delisted games on cart/disc out there.
>>743728727>This is really important because in over 20 years I will have access to a day 1 unpatched version of the game and you possibly won't lol who will be laughing thenthis but unironically I will indeed be laughing
>>743728617Physical I have the option of waiting for the price to drop significantly because the game isn't as good as it was expected to be.Physical I have the option of selling the game if I hate it.Physical I have the option of giving you the game so you can play it.Physical I have the option of buying it somewhere cheap on salePhysical I have the option of selling it years later.Digital I have to bend over and present my asshole to Sony while they pick out whatever dildo they want to fuck my ass with (the largest one, because that hurts me the most).
>>743714356>im ok with owning nothingwhat is this retarded psyop
>>743731392Yeah, I bet Mat won't make a peep about the september physical sales (when every fucking game will come out all at once due to the fear of GTA6).
>>743731591I'll give you an example of some books I'd pick up back when people read physical books>100+ paper crafts and origami>Look inside>101 paper crafts and origamiThis works in the reverse where >over 100k could mean the 7th game in that list sold 100k copies but the first 6 sold 10mI don't really have any stake in this cause my ps4 is jailbroken and I don't want a ps5 just pointing out that this article is using tricky wording presumably to push sony's agenda or good old fashioned click bait journalism
>>743714861The amount of people reading this post and responding, not realizing it's dripping with sarcasm makes me weep. We truly are flooded with 70IQ browns
>>743731743You are so clever, anon. Not clever enough to understand that people will engage with rhetorical questions and obvious bait tho.
>>743731627I dont want it to be playable I want it to be good. This lack of any standards whatsoever is ruining emulators.
>>743718242You can't change those stubborn, retarded goycattles. Sony loves abusing them till they croak.
>>743721171>People wouldn't care if Sony was like Valve.They are one in the same.Valvetards and Sonytards are all the same people.They are just cultists that have given their lives to a product rather than just enjoying games.Ironically, which Sony lacks heavily in comparison to PC and Nintendo offerings.
>>743713339No one's buying a $1500 piece of shit with no games, and that's being very optimistic about the price.
>>743717970>>743718076then why keep buying the shits from the dishonest asshole calling Sony all the time?
>>743731907They bought a 1500 dollar box when the ps5 launched and was being scalped to hell and back and also had no gamesDon't underestimate consoomers
>>743713019Sure sure. Just dont come crying back to game disc when snoy cant compete in digital market with steam.
>>743713019No one does, sypro remake didn't even have all games on he disc and that harry potter game ends after the intro and tells you to download the rest of it.
>>743713339>The PS6 boycott >PS6lollmao evenThere will be no PS6 until prices in the hardware market stabilize. If they released it anytime soon it would cost as much as a Gabe Cube.
Zero games and soon Zero discs
>>743714356Does this statistic include the free three games you get each month with ps+?If yes, its very misleading and worthless.
>>743713019I'm sure that's true.
how many people are still holding out with a ps4 6 years later? the ps6 is going to be lucky to do wiiu numbers all things considered
>>743733143Me but it's on 11.00 and completely offline
>>743714818It's even funnier on 4chan because trying to push a narrative here just causes seasoned lurkers to dig their heels in even harder.
>>743713019>really shows nobody cares about PlayStationftfy
>>743717470ebay
I guess this means the Japanese video game market is now the largest in the world.
>>743714356>left: £20 disc>right: £90 "digital license"
>>743714861These fuckers pull out another million PS2 sales whenever Nintendo gets past their record and you think they're not liars?
>>743715449>storesYou mean sites, like ebay
>>743714326>dexitWhat's that, I haven't played a Pokemon game since Ruby.
>>743725116They literally say if a download is required RETARD.
>>743736842Do you want the short version or the long version?
>>743736842retards trowing a tantrum because you can't 100% the pokedex with a single game anymore.The same retards that tell your to gen anything you want anyway
>>743736901Long version
>>743714356>22% of sales are physical>>743713019>Only 7 games have sold more than 100k physicalkek
>>743736842catch em all is deadyou can no longer access em all in any one game, they cannot be traded in or anything
>>743736931I remember pokemon back when 100%ing the dex was an attainable goalNow you have to be extremely autistic
>>743736974also done as a decision stated under as "hey it's a lot of work doing all these models, textures, and animations"of which are still subpar and/or wantonly recycledand that they've also stated they will never, ever do a full game again
>>743736931Shill>>743736936Basically Game Freak are lazy as fuck assholes. They cut tons of Pokémon under the excuse of "making the animations better", they lied and said that all models were made from zero, while using (and still in use) models from X and Y. Sword and Shield still looked like shit, even with Dex cut, so nobody saw the benefits of that other than lazyness.And the best part? They sold some as DLC later. Yeah, DLC to use Pokémon you already own.All that to sell Pokémon Home too. Where your Pokémon are held as hostages inside a paid service until, by miracle, they are "allowed" to be used in a game by Game Freak.The problem isn't even "nobody completes the Pokédex", the problem is not being able to use the Pokémon YOU want to use. You're only allowed to use the Pokémon Game Freak want you to use because they're the only billion dollar company that behave like an indie dev.Picrel is one of the "quality animations" they promised.
>>743713194I'm too lazy to do disc swaps and I was STILL buying physical games in spite of it...I like digital-only more than physical games but I've also never committed to it.
>>743736995now you have a phone app to trade worldwide without the GTS that resets at every gen it has never been so easy.
>>743737410>Game Freak is a multibillion-dollar company that acts like a small indie developer. I’ve never seen anyone describe Game Freak so accurately before. Well done.
>>743714326Then you're not boycotting shit, shut the fuck up.
>>743737684>>743737410did you just quote yourself? gamefreak is smaller than most AA studios. they don't get the money from the merchandize and shit.
It's a performative astroturf campaign being led by Nintendo to distract from the fact they're currently in the dirt perception wise.
I don't fucking care how little physical copies they sold if they limit me to a single store that sells games and can pull the prices out of their ass I will leave their fucking system. It's that fucking easy.
>>743714309>leaks your personal and credit card info twice>stops physical media>revokes digital licences without notice>raises prices of their console thrice>raises prices of digital games>says they will now focus on how they can rip the most money of their paypigs>5 exclusives in 8 yearsAnd snoycattle will still buy PS6.
>>743714861>Or are you claiming Sony is lying?Yes, you retarded gorilla nigger. Just how fucking stupid are you, pavement ape?
>>743713019>TrannyEra Jew
>>743713019How does it know I bought one from a second-hand store for 5 bucks thougheverbeit.
>>743713019>source: we made it upEvery time.
>>743714502>because of people supporting them out of spite?That's never happened.
>>743713019What is the point of even buying a console now. Its a 800 dollar locked down system, you could spend that much and get a used older laptop or desktop on marketplace with the same or better specs.
>>743738602Used gamers are irrelevant in this discussion.
>>743739039so like u ever been in a technical discussion and someone mentions "normies will never use this software"the kind of people who buy consoles are people who think computers are complicatedyour mistake you made was "you can buy a laptop or a desktop with the same or better specs"remember ps5 owners were told the ps5 is the equivalent of a 1000-2000 dollar pc. they don't know what the fuck a graphics card is much less which one they needconsole players don't want to have to research what computer to buy, they want to go to the video game store pick up the video game box and play video games
>>743713019TOTAL SONY AND PS5 DEATH LMAO
>>743715148I only see Switch, Switch 2 and PC games there.
>>743713339>Gamers and boycotts do not mixthis
>>743740093lets say u did boycott it super hardwhats ur alternative to playstation
>>743740168pc
>>743713019didn't ghost of wokei flop?
>>743716846Pragmata Resident Evil RequiemCrimson DesertStarfieldEA Sports UFC 6Code Vein IISaros
>>743740039That's what dementia looks like
>>743714356Of course an AI nigger would support this shit.
>>743740341>Code Vein IIforgot that even existed kek
>>743736995>Now you have to be extremely autisticit's actually the opposite though.
>>743740483oh i havent played since like xy i feel bad for anyone still mazed by that franchise tho my prayers go out to u
>>743737410>>743737684 retards
>>743714356Grossly inflated numbers, meanwhile in reality:
>>743740397delulu-kun...
>>743714356>AI jeets
>>743714356do ai sloppers really? lmao
>>743714721>retard mutt being a retardgood job retard
>>743740753that's your nickname?
>>743714502Bud LightBud Lightpull your head out of your ass and leave /v/ for a while retardo
>>743713019>Grand majority of gamers buy digital>switch to digital only>Somehow this is badIt's probably because i play games on PC but i haven't given a fuck about physical releases of games for the last like 15 years.
>>743713019I'm not buying all the propaganda anymore. All what I know for sure is I buy physical and when I see games discounted greatly physically compared to their digital counterparts it only makes me want to buy the disc even more if its a game I am interested in. I have yet to purchase a single digital game for my PS5. I have over two dozen physical PS4 and PS5 games and this number will go up as I keep collecting games I want to physically own. There might be another factor here at play that they don't want to admit. Like maybe its possible gen Z and alpha is so braindead they have been gaslit into thinking digital is superior and the only way games should ever be bought. I suspect a lot of them are anxiety ridden retards that will not get in a physical car to drive to their local walmart or best buy to purchase games either. No more physical games for consoles is not a world I want to live in. If this has to be forced to happen I am not going to suddenly give in or go to steam either. I will just become a retro gamer playing emulation and I will pirate only. I don't have a problem with steam but I don't want to see Xbox and Sony become an inferior steam. These corpos are basically just bullying us at this point with their shilling.
The PS5 has more than 6 games???
>>743714356now add all those disc sales for backwards compatable games from the ps4 and 3.the point of physical media is that its still good on the next console.while my digital psn library from the 3 APPARANTLY cant make it over to the 5.
>>743713152wow the seething replies tells me everything i need to knowconsole cvcks have a year and a half to basically buy a pc and figure their shit outsonys not backing down
>>743737972I'd like to remind you the PS5 still hasn't outsold the PS4 and it probably never will. The PS6 is likely to do sub 80 million in its lifetime. I
>>743741536Ps5 wasn’t necessarily designed to outsell ps4 and do massive massive volume. It was more so for high profit margins while maintaining a very high sell rate as well.
>>743741635Yeah and they built the titanic to sink.
>>743740686and? people didn't buy the games. All this physical game is performative. You have people who have been full digital for years who just want the option there even if they don't use it. it's insane.
>>743713339consoles are literally plebbit tho>>743724907its true i literally had to look up top 20 games played on gaystation and their exclusives aren't even in the top 15emulation is going to make console cvcks reeeeeeee so bad
>>743741684The ps4 and ps5 both outdid all of their predecessors by a lot in terms of profit though.
>>743741464Guess what PC has
>>743741786they're making so much profit they have to lay off all those developers, shutdown studios, increase the price of the PS5 three times and nickle and dime their remaining consumer base?
>>743741798No physical release
>>743713019The same crowd who seeth about end to physical are the same people who celebrate datacenter projects being cancelled.
>>743741881Backwards compatibility with your digital library, right
>>743741858why should they keep studios around who aren't making shit? This isn't a charity.
>>743741883Those are good people then.
>>743741731lmao gaystation is going to bring out their crypto for you to buy their games
>>743741858Yes, they are insulated heavily by being the biggest platform for third parties outside of PC, even exceeding it in some cases. They monetize subscriptions, micro transactions, high digital sales, etc.
>>743741883Rational human beings?
>>743719287>or if gaymers truly are just mindless cattle who will let a corporation openly fuck them in the assIs there really any question in your mind about this? Just wait for November to see how many records GTAVI breaks.
WHAT THE FUCK?PLAYSTATION 5 HAD FIVE FUCKING GAMES THIS YEAR? NAME THEM
>>743717097>owning your games is the reason they are taking your games away>its your fault for owning themwhat
>>743742038I mean that's basically sony's logic here
>muh game ownershipnobody gives a shit about that. Can you own Roblox, Fortnite or GTA Online? No.
>>743742006>Resident Evil: Requiem>Crimson Desert>MLB The Show 26>007 First Light>Lego Batman>WWE 2K26>Call of Duty: Black Ops 7Jesus christ that's garbage
>>743714861>Or are you claiming (CEO that sold 50% of his share) is lying ?invest more, sell your house and go all in, can't never go wrong with all those 6 gorillions sale of digital game you can't never see outside of number in a piece of paper
>>743741786And neither of them have backward compatibility for for ps3all this proves is that the average consumer is a soulless paypig with no morals and valuesmy younger brother has given up with consoles over this and wants to build a pc nowkeeps telling me he wished he listened to me during covid when I kept telling him just buy a pc
>>743742118Just wait until COD comes to Switch 2, it will blow you away. The best selling game almost every year for a good reason
>>743741881We can literally burn and make our own physical and there's some PC chads out there making cartridges with SD cards now lol
>>743742095Those games should be banned. It would do good to our society.
>>743742187I've been burning games to CDs don't ask why
There are 7 PS5 games?
>>743742241See >>743742118They are not good games
>>743742205>I've been burning games to CDs don't ask whylol the cartridges seem cool
>>743742412>useless plastic
>>743742259See>>743742169
Console players answer this:Why confine yourself to Sony's ecosystem only when they go through with this?Is it just laziness and convenience and all the trophies you've gotten on your console over the years?Be honest.
>>743714356>if the game is good, i play itself burn rofl
>>743742472it's physical tho
>>743742645You don't want honesty.
>>743742412literally just a USB in a big case.shit write speedwhat you need is something with a SATA hotswap interface that slots into the front of your case.you know, like a CD drive.
>>743742205>burning games to CDswut? you mean blu-ray right?
>>743736954Oy veyy, you are not supposed to listen to all their lie at the same time, only 1 at a time and forgot when you hear the next
>>743742850I meant vinyl sorry
>>743742761CDs drives have way worse speeds than USB 2Let alone 3
>>743742917i've been writing my games to a wax cylinder, i've almost got doom to run on it, but i have to keep pausing to swap them out every 10 seconds.
>>743742963i dont mean using the actual drive, i mean using the direct sata connection on the back of it like every harddrive that isn't an m2.i had just hoped as someone arguining for physical media you would be more accustomed to the CD drive that a PC SSD or HDD
>>743742719No I actually do.If I could I would love to sit in on a therapy session being conducted on somebody like reforge gaming or DCG just to better understand why they choose to be retarded.
>>743728998MS can keep shit up because Xbox is tiny ass bit of their Azure infrastructure. They wont risk getting pummeled by lawsuits even if they can win or dismiss them. Sony on the other hand doesnt have capacity since majority of PSN already runs on look out - Microsofts Azure lmao.
>>743742645i don't want to connect a PC to my fucking TV.And i don't want to imagine the turbojet sound needed for the size of a real screen
>>743743824You know it's just an hdmi cord right just like a console would be?Is it the size of the case that you just don't want to lug around to do it because you're a weakling?You can just make a build in a mini itx case if size and weight is the issue.
>>743742761Those are actually all SSDs, and the thing they're being plugged into is literally what you're describing.
>>743741536>The PS6 is likely to do sub 80 million in its lifetimeNo problem for Sony. Right now, they're taking a massive loss on every console sold, and hardware isn't getting any cheaper, especially with AI driving up component prices. Sony is probably expecting PS6 unit sales to be lower, but revenue per customer to be much higher through endless MTX, PS+ price hikes, digital purchases, and accessories. That's where they'll make their money.
There weren't any must buy games this year.
>>743746752>Right now, they're taking a massive loss on every console sold,proofs?
I think the only game I gave a fuck about this year was Pragmata and Crimson Desert. I did buy a phyiscal copy of both.Nothing else was a must buy. It's been a lackluster year.
>>743742472like disc>>743742761Lol, the write speed of a Blu-ray drive is absolute dogshit compared to a USB flash drive or a microSD card.
>>743714356So the guy on the right won't play anything?
>>743746752>>743747043If anything the recent price hikes pushed them well into profitability on each console sold. They wanted to protect their margins at the cost of unit volume sales since the install base is already great.
>>743747161>>743746752Yeah, don't expect Sony to keep subsidizing the PS6 at a massive loss. Someone's going to pay for it, and it won't be Sony.
>>743747247The home console will be fairly expensive, I wonder if the upcoming handheld will be a way to mitigate low sales from the home system with its lower price.
>>743747420The handheld will be in the same ballpark as Switch 2 or it'll be DOA.
>>743747478Even if it’s a little more it will help the overall volume. I don’t know if it can beat the Switch 2 outright though. The move to all digital is definitely probably making the handheld cheaper than it would have been.
>>743747478That would mean the PS6 won't be as powerful as some of the rumors claim. I think the 40 GB RAM rumor is probably bullshit. It would be too expensive, impractical, and disconnected from Sony's goal of keeping the PS6 console and handheld in the same ecosystem.I think 24 GB is a much more realistic target, even though it'd still be expensive. Sony isn't going to keep subsidizing massive hardware losses forever.
>>743739218>the biggest pro of physical games is irrelevant in this discussion
>>743713152Euronigger sales don't fucking matter. It takes your entire continent to even be near the same level as US and even Jap sales
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>>743748353actual retard
Regardless of how the data is skewed, I think people are taking the wrong message away from this whole mess. Physical games going away sucks, but the core anxiety is a lack of ownership in the digital age, and limiting your advocacy to "bring back physical games grrr!!!!!" won't solve shit, especially when access can still be revoked if data isn't entirely on-disc.Physical games are cool, I like collecting them, I like having something I can hold, but they're slowly becoming items for enthusiasts. Trying to stake everything on shaky ground like that is not going to play out in anyone's favor. There's also the fact that I want to be able to buy digital games with confidence. They're convenient! Everyone should have the same rights regardless of their preferred format. What we should be vocalizing support for is greater consumer protection legislation globally so these companies can't get away with stealing your shit, even if it's a digital copy. Yeah, it doesn't fix absolutely everything about the situation, physical may still go away in the long term, but it's vastly preferable to the current trajectory of things.
>>743714356For me it's Trant'ntfsy 4 Red Opt (disc only)
>>743751440You can't revoke access to digital games because piracy exists. The only issue is always online shit that has significant parts of the game running server-side, and that's what the whole "Stop Killing Games" thing was about.
>>743747478It baffles me why Sony doesn't just make the PS6 their version of the Switch. As much as I hate to admit it, it would actually make sense to get rid of discs if they didn't want to develop an entirely new version of UMDs for example. They could subsidize more of the cost with their profits from going all digital. They could encroach on the Japanese market that they've largely withdrawn from for many years now. It could be priced comparatively to the existing PS5/PS5 Pro line, a minor upgrade (think a PS5 Pro+), that won't alienate fans without a spare $1000+. Sony didn't learn anything from the Vita. They won't be able to make games for two platforms, nowadays they can't even make one games for one. And rumors suggest they'll be making a PS6 S too. That's three platforms that need individual ports. Sony's going to implode next-gen regardless of whether or not they roll back the discs situation.
>>743713019>Really shows no one cares about physical gamesYes. No one but a few seething /v/tards.
>>743751706If Sony can take movies and shows out of your digital library, they can do the same thing to games. It really is only a matter of time (if it hasn't already happened and I'm not aware).Piracy is an option, but it shouldn't need to be the last bastion of control consumers have over their shit. I shouldn't have to go out of my way to regain access to something I already forked over money for. As consoles become more and more locked down, this issue is going to become harder and harder to circumvent.>inb4 just don't buy consolesAgain, everyone should have the same rights regardless of their preferred format. It shouldn't matter.
>>743751713Come on now. PS6 will have home and handheld, and Sony is supporting seamless development simultaneously for both systems. PlayGo is supposedly one of these tools. They are going for easy scalability and both consoles should get ports of the same game just dialed back for the handheld, but same architecture and everything. It’s not like Switch 2 where devs have to recode and optimize for way different hardware and architecture.
>>743713019PS5 games don't sell for shit no matter what the format. No one wants them, no one plays them.
>>743752060>Sony is supporting seamless development simultaneously for both systems.>They are going for easy scalability and both consoles should get ports of the same game just dialed back for the handheldWasn't that the intention behind the PS5 Pro too? And we all know how that turned out.
>>743713019>You may live to see PS finally die.Literal skill issue from Barrierstation.
>>743752514Why pick a notoriously bad example that was worse on PC? The Pro with its PSSR2 update was phenomenal, the handheld could very well use the same upscaler to go from lower resolutions like the Switch 2. PSSR2 is very similar FSR4.1 as well which is great.
>>743713339snoys have no shame.
>>743752514>mfw ps5 pro owners don't know difference between 1080p or 1080i>also mfw they need a patch to go from 863p to 1080p>also mfw advertised as 4k but only upscaled to 4k while being rendered at lower reshow does sony do it?
>>743752901>PSSR2 is very similar FSR4.1 as well which is great.
>>743713019Okay, you can take my consumers rights away now, SONY.
>>743752901>we needed a patch to go from 863p to 1080p even tho box says 4k so this mean good
>>743742038by reselling you make sony not earn money that someone could spend on a new copy, that's why they are getting rid of physical
>>743731653Most of /v/ are brown jeets anon
you don't own physical anyway, eula says you are not allowed to crack it and multiple other stuff so it's not yoursphysicalfags could have a point 10 years ago but now you need day 0 patch to play and online activation anywayso your physical is no different than if you just burned a digital copy on a disc
The only physical copy of a game I ever bought was a Russian bootleg of Warcraft 3. Everything else I either borrowed from friends or pirated, until Steam came along.
>>743713019Sony's been phasing out the appeal of physical on their devices for years. Also, PS5 doesn't even have 7 games worth playing.
>>743713019>only 7But does it really matter when those 7 ball and gun games sell millions?
>>743746752>Right now, they're taking a massive loss on every console soldThe last console sold at loss was the ps3
>>743754517PS5 has most of what every other platform gets if not more. Cope and seethe.
>>743754372> you don't own physical anyway, eula says you are not allowed to crack it and multiple other stuff so it's not yoursWith physical games, you can sell them, trade them, and borrow them. If your console/account gets banned, you can play them on another console. You own them. It’s really unbelievable how pathetic you Sony nigger goy cattle are. You will defend anything they do.
SNOYSTATION HAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAA
>4chan hates physical nowlmao retards
>>743757519>4chanSnoys because daddy sony said thats physical is bad
>>743713019Cool let them do it.Sony and every other 3rd party publisher won't miss their sales figures being padded out by retailers wholesaling their games by the hundreds of thousands beyond the maximum reach of their audience when it comes time for the next quarterly report.
>>743758191Steamies, actually. PC gamers haven't had a disc drive in like 15 years.
>>743714502Bud LightGiletteNew Coke back in the 80s
>>743751713>It baffles me why Sony doesn't just make the PS6 their version of the SwitchEven if Sony made an identical version of Switch in terms of power the problem is they don't have any games made for a hybrid platform so they're arriving a decade too late. And it's not like that problem is fixed because Sony tries to sell 2 different consoles. Companies are just gonna ignore the Sony handheld and focus on PS6/NS2
>>743737410>under the excuse of "making the animations better">said that all models were made from zeroThey NEVER said any of this shit you stupid faggot otherwise post proofI want to see if you find any>they sold some as DLC laterNo they didn't you fucking liar. They put in the game with a free update. You can have they even without dlc.God the dexiters are truly retard and dishonest even 10 years later.
>>743713019why is this niggertrannyfaggot always first in line to defend sony corporation?
>>743759889>Even if Sony made an identical version of Switch in terms of power the problem is they don't have any games made for a hybrid platformI remember when people were speculating that the power-saver mode on PS5 was for the handheld. At the time, I was skeptical. The power-saving was still pulling way more power than it should do.
>>743748353What the hell is honestly the point of them doing this? Seems to me they did it on purpose to further keep justifying a move to digital only.
>>743760652my physical media mogs yourst. pc supremacist
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>>743759889See>>743752060
>>743764525post a better physical media collect console cvcksI'll wait
>>743713019Shinobi602 is a corpo mouthpiece. Also, this smells like cherry picked dogshit.>100,000 copies>at target>between opening and lunch>while a trans employee is working checkout
>>743750803Yeah, I know... Snoyggers are actual retards for keeping to buy those shits. Typical goycattles.
>>743713019When you upcharge 100 extra dollars for a disc drive yeah that's gonna happenThey're slowly making little decisions like that to try and phase out physical games
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>>743713339I haven't purchased a console in eleven years and I will not be purchasing a PS6. Console gaming is too raped, they put advertisements on your dashboard and make you pay for an online service that used to be free. The PS6 could sell like hotcakes, I'm not giving them shit.
>>743713019How many physical copies over 100k did they sell?How much did those seven games sell digitally?How many digital games sold over 100k in 2026?Need more info for this to mean anything.
>>743730598>doesitplay shows the majority of PS5 games are playable>HURR DURR IT BOOTS SO IT'S PLAYABLEIf there's content not on the disc or cart, the game's incomplete and therefore defective.It's like buying a boxset of a series only to realize that the BGM is missing and retards like you came out of the woods shouting "Who cares about the BGM, the series is still watchable without it"tl;dr kill yourself corporate cocksucker
>>743769016You'll survive.
>pffft bruh no one cares about physical >NOOOOOOOOOO WHYYYYYYYYYYUHHHHHH DID YOU TAKE THE GAME I PAID FOR OFF THE LIST >*accepts it and pays for something else* >nooooooooooo whyyyyyyyuuhhhhhh did you take that off >*accepts it and buys something else* >bruh who cares its 80 bucks you poor or something you cant drop a hunny on the newest gun and ball game. man epstien was right you're all cattle and deserve to have your money taken for every single penny. Man i need to make the next sloppy slop to milk you brainless faggots of all you're worth
niggre's please when the last time you bought a CD
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>>743742645>>743743240>>743744343I'm an idort but if you truly want some honest answers of why someone would continue to stay in the console ecosystem:>PC gaming is not a real platform for any normalfag. PC gaming only exists if it can be played on dad's prebuilt Dell laptop he bought from Best Buy seven years ago. Otherwise it's a $1500+ affair buying a prebuilt.>PC gaming at your TV is not and never will be a thing anyone accepts and the fact you even consider it a legitimate option makes you a delusional enthusiast instead of someone who is realistic.No one is going to sit a tower nearly twice as large and wide as their PS5 next to their TV, have way more heating issues because these things are not designed around being in enclosed spaces or on carpets, and then use a wireless mouse and keyboard on their sofa on a special tray they keep by them to do so when the inevitable happens and something doesn't work even if they boot into Big Picture.>PC gaming legitimately has issues with many games that are otherwise plug and play on console.Dark Souls 1, Dead Space 1, many Assassin's Creed games have weird PC-exclusive issues like Origins' water transparency or Valhalla's tin audio that took two years to fix, many Yakuza games are to this day still broken on PC or missing content like 0 having broken minigames and save corruption or the Remasters having Pachinko removed, Deadly Premonition on PC is by far the worst version ever released and even emulating the exact same version via RPCS3 is more stable than it with DPFix, etc. People are not going to sit on PCGamingWiki to fix these things, they want to boot it and not think about it.>PC achievement systems are completely and utterly worthless due to cheating via CE or SAM being braindead simple, no one getting banned for doing so, mods being allowed, and saves being able to be transferred with no profile encryption.>PC in general has major problems dealing with more than one controller plugged into it.
>>743714326i haven't bought a pokemon game since oras but that is because i found out how easy it is to pirate them
>>743742645>>743743240>>743744343>>743772834Ran out of room.>PC tends to either not get games consoles have for years or take literal decades to get them.Vanillaware games took until just a few months ago to finally port anything at all to PC.>PC gets random issues happening all the time for literally no reason.Simple example I am facing right now is that gyro in Genshin Impact constantly keeps spinning me around despite working on literally every other game despite a full Windows and game reinstall.>Consoles allow families to give children physical gifts that aren't gift cards and have them unwrap them establishing happy moments for both sides.>Consoles can easily be bought used from a reputable reseller like eBay and immediately plug it in and play.>Consoles as an ecosystem are dirt cheap when it comes to game purchases because their game prices drop significantly quicker than PC does due to physical copies and B&M stores having to get copies off of shelves and out of warehouses unless you are willing to risk grey market key resellers like G2A or CDKeys (Loaded) which no normalfag is going to do.>People's entire friend groups are located on that one platform, and unless they as a group decide to move over to another platform like when everyone agreed to go from 360 to PS4 it's never going to happen.>People have spent nearly a decade and a half now building up their physical and digital collections on these platforms in addition to their trophy/achievement profile which they don't want to restart.Unless you remove all the weird issues PC gaming has with anti-cheat, completely prevent needing to touch ini files or mods, and have the Gabecube priced at $600 for the same power as a PS6 you are not selling normalfags on PC gaming. Even Japan which was starting to accept PC gaming due to Vtubers and Covid has seen a massive decline.https://automaton-media.com/en/news/japans-pc-gaming-population-has-decreased-by-3-million-in-the-past-decade-studies-show/
It's never not funny when gamers unironically think they know better than mutli-billion dollar corporations and their C-Suite execs
