the game is kinda boring and that has mostly to do with the fact that a vast majority of the skills are a glorified auto attack

>>743714102
What builds avoid this? I'm playing primal strike shaman, i thought I would like it more early on when the skill had a cooldown. But then I unlocked the skill that let's you just spam the skill and now I never have to auto attack and every fight is slamming right click

>>743714050
It's not an insult it's a fact this game is boring.

This game kinda sucks but it's the only thing to scratch that Darkspore itch

im playing it and having fun so...

poo2 fags already bored of the new league? shocking

>>743714050
I liked it.
I'll probably get the expansion.
They need an updated sequel though. I'm not a graphics snob, but Grim dawn is ugly as fuck

aRPGs kind of have to sacrifice graphics for performance. Unless they do the unheard of, make individually powerful enemies like Dark Souls instead of being about cutting down musou-like swarms of weaklings.

>>743714657
>>743714763
Making a sequel won't fix the graphics. Grim Dawn's graphics are fine on a technical level. It's just that their art direction is shit so every area is muddy greens, greys and browns.

>>743714657
the free update will redo the interface to some degree, i believe with 4k support

>>743714587
Just in time for the new PoE1 league

>>743714901
>so every area is muddy greens, greys and browns.
So what you're saying is, it captures the grim atmosphere perfectly?

>>743714050
>Titan Quest, but dark fantasy
Prove me wrong.

Titan Bore

I hope the expansion is shit so I can buy denshattack instead

diablow

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Bersreker/Soldier or Berserker/Nightblade?

>>743714276
projectile or totem based builds, just something that doesn't share the exact same auto attack animation feel a lot better.

>>743714102
the skill authoring tools are very bad
modders couldn't even recreate d2 frozen orb

>>743714901
I like the art direction, it's the vfx/particle effects that suck and are really primitive

>>743716947
You know you want to play forcewave again anon. Just do it.

>>743716947
For me it'll be berserker/occultist and berserker/arcanist

>>743716947
I WILL go chaos cooldown BWC + onslaught dreadnaught.

>>743720137
>>743714657
you faggots suck, it looks good
go play poopoo2 it looks like perfect AI-esque unreal slop

>>743720224
What am I missing with those two combos?

>>743720386
the trees have obvious enough synergy and then there are a bunch of cool items if you peruse grimtools

>>743720350
implying poe2 doesn't look good is definitely an opinion

>>743720386
Zerker has a lot of cold or chaos stuff, Arcanist has a lot of cold, occ has chaos.

>>743720350
GD looks worse than Titan Quest. It's a game from 2006 and it still looks great 20 years later.

My plan is to go zerk/arc and do wereraven spells + sky shard as my main, and then stuff like Sphere of prot, mirror, rallying/bonechilling cry, various passives/buffs as utility.

And then get the 2h sunblade sword from one of the new reps for next char, which is occ/demo.

you could also consider nightblade. but i dunno man i'll probably just mess around with some shit see whether it putters out in the middle or not.

i've had the game since launch, i've gotten al the expacs, but i aways drop the game halway through. i dont know why, i want to enjoy it and i like other arpgs but i always fall off. i've heard ashes is really good too. i think i'm going to try to play through again, should i start now or wait until expansion launches? does berserker look fun or is there an older class combo that might keep my attention for longer?

>>743720826
If you're not interested in berserker, you could start now and probably not be at the new content when it drops. There's plenty of combos with new or old classes, it's hard to say what may keep your attention without knowing your preferences.

>>743720826
You can start now no problem. Berserker will probably be good/fun. Pick something you can combine with berserker, a single class should be enough for a few days. Most classes would work but perhaps
>nightblade
>demolitionist
>shaman
>arcanist
the others are probably also fine

>>743714050
does she get fucked by the dog? otherwise i dont care

is necromancer good if i don't want to use minions or is that against the point?

>>743721548
depends on what it's paired with
soldier or arcanist are good and don't need minions

>>743721548
Non-pet Necro is mediocre as a primary class but it's a pretty decent support class.

>>743721548
Necro is good as a vitality caster especially if you pair it with shaman in order to get devouring swarm for shredding enemy vitality resist and wendigo totem to further boost vitality damage

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on my way to fuck up the warden

>>743723079
grimtools?

>>743723129
just dawn of masteries bullshit
d2 amazon + titan quest hunter

>>743714276
Casters, particularly DoT casters
The same DoT from a different skill can be applied without overwriting. i.e. Poison from Dreeg's Evil Eye and poison from shitpants will stack. As a result, DoT casters do their single target damage by piano keyboarding

>>743721548
Yes, it has godly early levelling with that aether retaliation spell (every proc applies the debuff in an AoE so it annihilates packs), it has good auras and utility for using it as a secondary class (and auto attack enhancers if you're into that gay shit) and some decent spells

>>743714050
That's the genre though

>109.9 hours on steam
it's a fucking dogshit game

>168 hours on steam
It's a fucking fun game.

poe2 is better desu

>>743724047
Silence, dalit.

>>743724047
This

>>743714050
I call it Grim Yawn and I like it but it's the most fucking laid back boring chill clicker in existence 90% of the time. If I have one big complaint with Grim Dawn it's that they've always got great pieces of key art and then the game just looks like ass. The one relatively major saving grace is the ragdolls are silly and exaggerated and make using skills that throw them around even more enjoyable. HOWEVER all of that is to say Grim Dawn could use more tits and ass and bombastic sounds/music and they even could do it with graphics in the same style because at this point I'm talking about what COULD be if we changed the past not what COULD be from here onwards you know how time works I think you'll figure it out the point is the only one that didn't have tits on the cover was the base game and the initial art direction ruined a lot

>>743724047
poop2 is just more of poop1, but with a 2 instead
I think I'll end up playing it exactly the same amount as poop1 - which is to say every league, then get bored again and drop it
I also think GD and LE are good too, for the record

I think Last Epoch is mechanically good but I cant get over how fucking generic the art looks. It looks like some garbage mobile rpg.

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>>743714050
does it ever get fast? i just couldnt get in to it, poe/diablo/last epoch all were fine from the start but GD and titan quest 2 just feel like molasses in movement and skills

>>743724672
They added a dodge move some time ago that can also be used for moving around slightly faster and there's movement glyphs you can get in Forgotten Gods DLC if you need more mobility

>>743724672
Have you tried youtube?

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>>743716947
I'm thinking berserker/nightblade. Go all-in on the duel wielding and crits triggering buffed self heals and bloatlord your way through everything

fast build that makes the most out of ragdolling enemies/blasting them to bits?

>>743726113
Forcewave

for me its https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwKNY_2t2RY&list=RDHwKNY_2t2RY&start_radio=1

>>743725441
if it doesnt get good for 100hrs ill never make it to a place where it feels frenetic

>>743724672
Some people say that Grim Dawn is a game that gets good dozens of hours in but I really feel like if you don't like it like, after an hour, then you probably never will. I enjoy the game a lot but even as it gets faster paced, the core gameplay loop doesn't really change unlike something like PoE where you go from wailing on enemies one at a time to deleting screens. In Grim Dawn you do eventually kill hoards and bosses have more mechanics and all but at the end of the day your abilities still work the same way and it's just the scale that changes.

what mastery should i combo with nightblade? i don't know if i want to play berserker so i figured i'd start playing now and make a decent amount of progress before fangs comes out

>>743726939
Yeah. It gets a bit faster as you get access to more skills/attack speed/movespeed, but it never turns into the bullshit 5ms per screenclear that PoE popularized. Grim Dawn just isn't that kind of game.

Heard some pretty wild info just casually dropped in a stream. Fangs had the largest number of crate people on it at once, and that number is only 12 people. The entirety of crate is also apparently just 30 people.

>>743726713
Well if you've watched endgame gameplay on youtube, I can tell you that you can get to that speed in like 20 hours or less. Maybe you are not using the available abilities?

>>743726984
Nightblade will combine very well with berserker. I would just stay single class until it comes out so you can enjoy the new class. Although you will start to have a rough time single class at some point if you play a lot in the next 3 days. Otherwise, necro and oathkeeper combine very well with nightblade.

>>743714050
Has anyone ever posted the high quality scan of this picture? I always see the same low resolution JPEG posted every time.

yeah, Crate only expanded their studio when they began working on Farthest Frontier. and it's still only 30 people. makes you realize how insanely bloated AAA studios are where they can fire hundreds but there's still several hundred more.

>>743724424
>poop2 is just more of poop1, but with a 2 instead
and poop1 is better, ergo

>>743724672
No. Max movespeed cap is +45%

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>>743714050
well /v/?

just started replaying the game. is there a build that lets me larp as a cthonic mage? is it vitality damage?

>>743728730
Chaos damage.

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>>743714050
I like this game because it's got great controller support and is simple enough to play while drunk.

the buildcrafting is much more fun than actually playing the game, especially if you nailed the former. people joke about >grim yawn, but I literally fell asleep when playing it.

>>743727865
aar (albrecht's aether ray for the newfags) spellbinder (arcanist+necromancer) melts everything and its a 1 button build

Seems like nightblade is the best pairing for the new mastery right?

>>743726360
The new OST is pretty good too. A Land Worth Saving is probably my favourite but I don't think anyone has uploaded the music to youtube.

>>743714050
Yawn Dawn

Wiping screens of trash enemies doesn't do much for me.

Does this game have boss fights with engaging mechanics or are the vast majority/all of them just blow them up before they blow you up? The other games in this genre i've tried (poe/diablo some indie etc) haven't worked for me because instead of having a fun skillset with various tools they usually seem to end up turning into activate 4 auras and spam 1 or 2 skills to annihilate the screen and when you get to bosses just do the same thing.

I figure the genre just isn't for me but i keep trying them for some reason.

>>743726939
I can sort of agree with this, as which class you choose at the start can also heavily weigh in on if you like the game or not. Inquisitor mixed with anything is usually fun to play. Soldier, while strong, is boring as hell to level because most times you'll default to a forcewave build early since you get MI for it very soon and it will stay relevant for a long time before you start getting gear to encourage using other skills.

>>743731352
Grim Dawn enemies are pretty tanky, especially bosses. It's one of the reasons PoEtards hate it so much. They're not that engaging mechanically though. The minor bosses are stat blobs and the major bosses have a rotation of five or six skills, including one or two that you have to avoid or suffer massive damage / death.

>>743731352
if you're looking for elding rangz and dank souls bossing then poe is the game you want. not classic diablo and it's various clones which are mostly just hit the big meat stick while chugging pots and maybe disengaging now and then from pools of damage.

>>743731352
You face tank all the bosses while spamming your only skill

>>743732189
I don't really like the new style of bosses that a lot of modern arpgs are going where instead a lot of bosses have fixed points in their health where you can't burn them down. You're forced to watch their animation and phase change even though you know you already won, but the game still makes you sit there twiddling your thumbs until you can "officially" kill the boss.

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>>743732429

>1166 hours on steam
It's not bad.

>>743729792
Without having delved into grimtools to check out the new items, there seems to be a *lot* of theoretically good class synergy. I'm gonna do Primalist first.

>>743714050
any pics of her spreading her sweaty, stinky pussy?

>>743732976
They did say they were including hundreds of new items and giving an ascendant rework to older sets to make them more viable and not just a stepping stone till you get your lvl 94 gear. So I look forward to the marksmen blue set to finally be useful for a 2h ranged purifier build.

>>743729792
I don't see how it's good with anything. It kinda sucks that transformations ignore WPS stuff. Onslaught is OK, I guess, but requires a cooldown ability, which the tree doesn't have for some reason, outside of that leap. The other stuff seems OK at best unless I'm missing something.

Y'know, if Kratos' wife looked more like this, people would actually be looking forward to the next GoW game.
Why can't AAA devs actually make badass female characters?

>>743733864
She looks hot
We are in 2026
What the fuck

>>743734021
>She looks hot
To who, the diversity hire that got upset with how the mocap model looked and decided to uggify her on purpose?

>>743734274
No, I mean the one in the OP, the last time the other one was hot was like 20 years ago

>>743720460
Least obvious GGG shill

>>743716947
cadence witchblade

>>743734730
Well it's hard to top a chick wearing a corset that emphasizes her fat tits.

It's been a while, will I have to play the campaign 3 times in the new expansion or is there an item that allows you to do it only once? I remember something like that

I can't explain this but while I keep having fun with Grin Dawn, it's always restricted to early portion of the game - first "act" in those swamps or something, still in and around second town but once I reach the final section with ruined city, I always start to get bored. But if I would make new characters, it's fun again. Someone got an idea?

This however also means I never even played expansions - they are designed with post-game characters in mind. And I'm honestly very against the idea of "post-game is real game" present in H&S games for so long. Second Diablo was so popular and fun precisely because whole gameplay was designed to be fun, not just "post-game" on third or something cycle with maxed level. Sadly, many autists insist otherwise.

>>743735997
There is, but it's not easy to start naked on the last difficulty, you need to have items in shared stash from other characters to help you.

Online or offline?

>>743714050
Why the FUCK are they releasing it right next to a poe league? Are they fucking stupid?

>>743736273
>poo1
>poo2
No one but chinese cares.

>>743736273
there's always a poe1/2 or diablo league around the corner
and poe schedule has been erratic for a while

Oh and I honestly think that whole "mastery" system is designed wrong by having players pump points into "mastery bar" to unlock skills in first place. As a result I finish the game (as in, by killing final boss) without even touching second class skills because I would need to otherwise pump tons of points into another bar. Second class might as well not exist at all. Holy shit, it's like 80% of skill points in total goes into those bars!

>But you get enough points if you do NG++ and explore every corner and do every side quest!
And game is truly over by that moment since you did 100% of what you could. What's the fucking point?

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>thinking of going Phantasmal blades+Onslaught
>there's one legendary that supports it
>it's a 2h sword
Fine, Ring of steel with Korba it is. Also what? Zantai, explain yourself.

>>743736238
The final section of the city is just a slog in itself. It's a long uninteresting dungeon filled with square rooms and corridors taking place in a basement larger than the city itself and despite being annoying to get through it's very linear with basically nothing to hide. It's my least favourite part of starting a new character. Once you push past it you can continue the base game or go into the Forgotten Gods expansion which are both a much better time immediately when you get there.

>>743727865
lol what? inquisitor was an expansion class? damn, what did demos spec into for second class back then?

>>743736645
Soldier, Arcanist, and Occultist all work well with Demo.

>>743736645
Speaking only for myself, I was always trying to force Demo/Nightblade to dual wield pistols

>>743736273
its an offline arpg, they have no concern for your live service slop dogshit

>>743736815
You could also make it work with Kilrian's maces, just bonking harder. Not like Cronley signet runs, which were the endgame, were hard.

>>743714050
>grim yawn
mastery bar system is so dumb, It means I have like 4 skills at most at max level and 3 of them are auto attack buffs.

And if I want to fuck around and experiment, I can't, once you invested in a class that's it and if you want to play with the skills, well you need 1000000000000000000 "iron" to reset the skills.

The devs are retarded, games like this make me will gaming will die.

>>743714050
Does this game have any transformation class/builds like druid/polimorph?

>>743737363
With the upcoming expansion, yes. Berserkers can be a werewolf or a wereraven.

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>>743736447
Why are you ignoring MIs?

How good/bad is Temu Diablo 2 aka Reign of Terror?

>>743737796
was pretty fun when I last played it in like 2019

>>743714050
Is the Nightblade dual wield line a trap?
I want to build something based around cold and the dual wield line looks juicy but i really hate the idea of having to click on every individual mob to kill them, never mind it also being melee so I'd have to also run at them and swing before I can kill them.

>>743737536
I don't respec for the endgame and that's the only MI that supports it meanwhile I have like 10 more slots to fill, and it's not 2016 so I can run in random junk. I do miss it though, just look at this absolute unit. Wish i didn't lose my weapons.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/2pJ3PbKZ

>>743737995
I wish more BiS stuff from the EA would have gotten the awakened treatment. Zolhan's Battleplate is nice, but I'd have liked stuff like an Awakened Thirsting Maw.

what's a fun dual pistols combo? could it work with the new berserker?

>>743738202
You could go Inquisitor/Berserker and try out dual storm emitters.

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The fact that I'd have to play through Grim Yawn like 50 times on max roguelike difficulty as every class to 100% achievements made me drop it. Just fuck off.

>>743738273
that sounds fun i'll give it a shot (get it?) guess i'll be a runekeeper

>>743735997
Killing Loghorrean on normal immediately unlocks access to ultimate difficulty now

>>743737296
>reddit spacing

>>743737950
did you even look at the skills, almost all of them target multiple enemies.
and you can put one point into shadow strike and get an instant gap-closer and you can even get another one later with a rune augment.
early on you might still want to use something like ring of steel to clear mobs faster, but once the build gets going it can shred through anything with ease

>>743737950
Not a trap at all. Zoom into the mob with shadow strike, do your melee thing and pair it with Ring of Steel, your AoE attack.

>>743737950
This build is quite strong. And far less squishy than one might assume.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/2JLmA94Z

Cabalist was fun
I quit though because going back for shrines is lame and I hate titan quest style of 200 components

they actually did a QoL pass awhile back specifically to clean stuff like that up.

>>743739608
>133 posts
>clean stuff like that
like what

>>743723079
>screen shaking like it's an armageddon
>the whole screen covered in special effects to the point you might be watching PoE as well
>what is actually happening is you have a brown shit smeared all over your screen, and there's like 10 harmless filler enemies at most on your brown screen, and you click a single tiny spell that works virtually the same as every other spell in this game over and over
They don't call it Grim Yawn for nothing. No amount of visual fart can fix your godawful artstyle and godawful mind-numbing even by diablo standards gameplay.

>>743740486
Uh oh melty.

No idea what I am doing. Only updated skills.
Wanted a 2H Zerker bleeding spec.
Never played GD so how bad is this build?
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/V7p90myZ

>>743741958
>no items
>no devotions
>just put a bunch of points into skills
>is this build good???
are you retarded or something?

>>743742192
I said I only updated skills. I have never played and have no idea what devotions/items are even worth to include with the skills I selected. I thought everything would be based on the skills so that should at least be solid first.

>>743742489
one of the best ways to increase your damage output is reducing the resistances of your enemies. you can get that from devouring swarm in the shaman mastery and for devotion you can get from the huntress constellation

>>743740486
the screen shake can be disabled. You didn't play the game

>>743740486
you can disable the screenshake

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Reminder that you can play through the entirety of both Diablo 1 and Diablo 2 through a GD mod: https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/mod-reign-of-terror/35347

And Grim Dawn has DEEP lore: https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/grim-dawn-lore-notes-pdf-and-ebook-epub-new-update-1-1-9-0/50203

>>743741958
https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/beginner-build-compendia-for-fangs-of-asterkarn-forgotten-gods/106137
https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/build-compendium-x-forgotten-gods/49673

>>743742891
POOPBLAST

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>>743742891
>no legendary solied pants

>>743742783
Thanks bro

When running a dungeon, is it worth full clearing every mob, or is it better to focus on elites and bosses?

>>743742936
Appreciated.

>>743743452
Kill em all, leave no one left alive.
Except for that one guy in Ultimate difficulty that needs to be lured to a specific spot

>>743742192
>no items
>fox only
>final destination

>>743742891
last thread said they took the files down tho (in prep for update because it's going to require the new expansion afterward too)
I would've played it to fill the few days before expansion release but can't, thanks fags.

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>>743744497
Link is still available on my machine. I didn't download the file but yes the link works (didn't say anything about the files being removed).

>>743743448
Also, if you're planning on going 2h then the Kraken constellation is a good one to go for

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gonna delete my characters and start over.

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>>743744595
Just the update it seems.

>>743745485
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gJfUhWx7awr7-tKHe84FfbqUrYoXRoas
It allows me to download the 10gb file.

>>743745156
Remember to delete your cloud saves from the main menu, too.

Give it to me straight, is there any hope for shapeshifter Berserker/Shaman or am I better off switching shaman for something else like Arcanist, Nightblade or Occultist?

>>743714050
grim tummy

>>743745759
When did they add that, also does the shared stash get deleted too?

i played this ages ago, someone give me the rundown on how the expansions have changed things

>>743738306
I'm so grateful I don't have achievement obsession. I see people skip great games over them all the time.

>>743742891
my fucking god, this game is so fucking ugly

>>743738380
Holy shit, really? They fast tracked Ultimate?

>>743746429
More content of course, what else is an expansion supposed to do?

>>743738306
I'm so grateful I'm not a dick-sucking FAGGOT.

>>743746429
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/219990/view/716784848176416215?l=english

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>>743746596
Yeah, you take it in your lil bussy instead.

>>743746237
>When did they add that
I couldn't possibly say. Maybe 4, 5 years ago? But it does seem to erase everything on your profile for a true tabula rasa reset.

>>743738306
>bitching about achievements
You're the problem with why modern gaming sucks.

>>743746429
>Ashes of Malmouth
Kick the shit out of the Aethereals in a truly fucked up city, with a trek through a cannibal cult/wendigo swamp to get there. Enables Inquisitor and Necromancer masteries.
>Forgotten Gods
The three occultist Witch Gods band together to stop a great threat in the desert. Enables Oathkeeper mastery and unlocks the Shattered Realm- a new endgame grind.

Is crucible DLC worth anything? Never heard anyone talk about it. Everything comes from the main game (and expansions/SR) so it'd be, what, $5 to test your dick stroking builds?

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>>743747384
Though I guess SR isn't actually new content any more....

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>>743738306
>Going for 100% achievements
>Pretty much done everything non-hc, except a few esoteric shit like 'craft 1000 items' or 'construct 50 defenses'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Need to reach Revered Status with Kymon's Chosen
uggghhhhh
oh wait wtf they added the FoA achievements already

>>743747524
I use it for claiming devotion points that would otherwise only be reached in Ultimate.

if i start now will i end up missing something when the new dlc comes out? i mean in the early stages of the game

Berserker just seems a little weak as a new class, I barely see any synergy with the other classes.

>>743714307
fr fr where the roomclear particle spamalam be this game straight UNC

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>>743714050
Dated engine taken to it's absolute limit, and it's kickstarted indie game. It's okay. Not the best, but decent enough. I hope they make a sequel.

>>743715007
That's literally what it is? Crate is literally just half the devs from Iron Lore who made a new studio.

>>743747640
no (unless you want to play berserker)

what's the coolest damage profile to build around

>>743747524
Before FG it was the main way to farm shit, nowadays you'd run it if you're bored with shattered realm I guess

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>>743747790
Why does this retarded bullshit get spouted in nearly every GD thread?

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>>743747907
chaos.................... if u can concueure you're demons..........

>>743747940
Because Grim Dawn is a project of a Titan Quest guy, it uses the same engine and systems, and the devs understand Titan Quest much better than whoever was hired by Nordic to make the new DLCs. People are bound to make a subconscious connection.

>>743714102
I don't play a lot of Arpgs, but I agree. It dosn't have generated maps, instead it's generated boulders, wth?

It also has these challenge dungeons, but you need to make a key to get in, and once you are in, you MUST beat the dungeon. If you leave, you get kicked out. You die, you get kicked out. If you want to try again you have to make another key, and the materials for making those stupid keys don't exactly grow on trees either.

The thing I liked about the game was that you can respec your characters easily and try different builds. That's something the developers at PoE could learn from.

>>743748868
Ops, I forgot to mention another thing. Those challenge dungeons are usually far, far, faaar away, and there is no bus stop or taxi in-game, so you have to run aaaaaaaaalll the way back if you want to try again.

>>743745852
there is a lot of hope for that

>>743716947
werewolf mad bomber

>>743748868
>That's something the developers at PoE could learn from.
Why would they want to do that, they want you to waste your time or pay up

>>743748561
>literally half
There is no excuse for ignorance.

Chaos skeletons (cabalist) is a really strong build. Gonna use that for the new expansion. Dawnbreaker warder is really good too but I like the pets build better. Took awhile to get the gear for the pets build though.

So what skills work with the transformations and their attacks?

>>743749705
It has some cool itemization. Either new summons from items, or like double golem. Good stuff.

where can i view the new items being added for older classes?

>>743748561
What systems? Hitting some guy till he dies and drops phat loot? Truly groundbreaking.

>>743749705
the item grind for pets to be good is just too much for me. You always need more dmg or survivability for your pets/yourself to not just get stuck

What about Titan Quest 2?

>>743750269
Still in early access.

>>743714763
>Unless they do the unheard of, make individually powerful enemies like Dark Souls instead of being about cutting down musou-like swarms of weaklings.
so No Rest for the Wicked

>>743749762
NOT default attack replacers, and so you can't use any weapon pool skills either (even with the werewolf claw attack), but you can use anything else

>>743751090
Can you use stacks of onslaught to buff a transformed attack like the werewolf's rip and tear move?

>>743724047
not free yet

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>>743752025
yes but you can't use the onslaught skill itself while transformed so you'll need a modifier for a different skill to add onslaught stacks
they are being added to the game in 1.3

>>743752586
neat thanks

>>743714050
arpg's are for literal npc's

>>743752723
>t. literal player character

>>743723079
autocast skills were a mistake

>>743752586
So that's what those +onslaught stacks meant. Makes sense, but now i wonder how does it work if you don't have the skill or even mastery itself.

>>743747690
>chaos
>bleeding
>cold
>piercing
easy to pick a second mastery based on one or two of these damage types
it also brings
>move, attack and cast speed
>DA, assloads of OA
>armour, damage absorption
>DA shred and 4 different resistance reductions in one skill
>crit damage
>transformation damage conversions
and a movement skill too
you could pair it with anything just for the stat boosts

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Can someone explain to me the point of the energy meter and if eating food still is relevant later on in the game?

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>>743753625
>eating food

>>743724672
Pick the nightblade and get the veil of shadow talent, upgrade it with the nights chill talent, then get the shadowstrike skill. Now you delete everything around you while speeding across the map nonstop. Couldnt make it faster if you tried. Later on you get two sword pets that fuck up everything that doesnt die instantly to your fart aura.

>>743753625
>eating food
Are you talking about finding "meals" on the map, which return some of your constitution-based health regen?

>>743753625
Nah, it becomes basically infinite past the first dozen levels.

>>743748868
>The thing I liked about the game was that you can respec your characters easily and try different builds. That's something the developers at PoE could learn from.
you can do that in poe easily

>>743753708
>>743753773
Yeah meals exactly

>>743754242
uh
it's nothing game-breaking. finding meals is okay if you have no health regen I guess.

>>743747789
they are currently working on RTS game and afterwards they'll do GD 2

>>743754242
Barrowholm serves some lovely food if you fancy

>>743753425
afaik they should work independent of the skill/tree. "onslaught stacks" are their own mechanic, onslaught itself is just a skill that generates them already (and generates the most)
you might get the +maximum stacks from the onslaught tree applied to any skill you give onslaught stacks though, I'm dying to try it out
the logic behind the onslaught stack modifiers that I'm aware of was the lack of use of cooldown skills as main skills in endgame builds, so now you can actually use a filler skill to boost the damage of your main skill bigly

there has to be some truth to it though. every time i've played grim dawn it's been boring as shit. even torchlight 2 is more fun to go back and replay. and that game is pretty slow paced at the start.

>>743724518
>>743724672
>Last Epoch
I only see that game mentioned in GD threads, I don't think it even got a general ever. Sad! I like the skill system and making new characters but the endgame is just a generic mapping system 15 years of updates behind PoE so it feels really boring.

what caster should i playthrough foa with? i'm not really interested in shape changing so i dont care about serker

>>743754918
its a very good game mechanics wise, it just really needs some endgame depth and god damn the balance is terrible, but thats standard for all arpgs really

>>743720460
it looks good for a few hours until it turns into cookie clicker screen exploder simulator just like poe1

>>743750269
Dogshit, the early hype only hit morons who knew only about the damages done to ARPGs by PoE.
If you want a bad PoE experience but with another coat of paint, it's right down your alley.

>>743755182
that is literally every arpg in existence including grim dawn

>>743755093
>and god damn the balance is terrible
I don't think there's a single ARPG right now with worse balance. LE is the only game I've played where the top tiers builds will push to fucking 10k corruption or someshit while 98% of builds will barely get past 200 corruption because their numbers are just pure dogshit.
What LE does have is the absolute best loot filter system in the genre.

>>743755386
i just really hate that the genre is play the meta or get fucked because everything is designed to challenge the top end of meta autists
like i said it would be fine if devs could balance, but theres always a couple builds that rape everything and the rest are in the dust
always find it funny how poe autists are always claiming "yeah bro you can just make your own build! its not that complicated!" like you wont get hard locked out of 90% of the content

>>743755332
true

>>743755040
ever done aether ray?

>>743716947
Nightblade Oathkeeper Minionmancer (Player stat scaling).

What I dont understand about this game is, if trash mobs are a complete faceroll and bosses are the only "highlights" of the game, why not make boss fight mechanics enjoyable rather than borderline unfair sometimes, but then remedy that with the fact that you can die 20 times and still come back to chip away a bit of health from the boss until you completely kill him. Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?
Sure bosses regenerate some of their health, but still...

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>>743754681
We'll see how it plays out in a day I guess, but that explanation doesn't completely make sense. Why put points into onslaught itself besides damage obviously when it maxes out at 5 stacks if you can put points into endless rage for +5 onslaught stacks. Or some random set giving you +11 stacks at once. Maybe without the onslaught skill they will be consumed 1 or 3 stacks per cast instead of all at once because panetti at 170% damage plus +165% from onslaught will melt everything.

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>>743757389
Great caption retard btw

>>743755690
nope, what element?

>>743757603
aether+fire+lightning by default, in arcanist tree

How do weapon procs interact with each other? Can more than one happen in a single 'attack'? Or does investing in too many end up wasting points because if one fires, it blocks the others until the animation completes?

>>743757846
Procs on gear happen independently of one another, weapon pool skills (those that proc off your default attack) activate one at a time and are added to a single pool, chances normalised to 100% if over.

>>743755573
I think a lot of people play Grim Dawn because you can actually take whatever you want into everything except the most end game of end game content if you know what you're doing. The worst shit is at least workable which isn't true of other games. It's the upside of having so many skills function so rigidly.

i have the most fun with these games when i just wing it and dont look at any guides. so i pick werewolf and see what happens.

>>743714050
and yet it persists and lives rent free

whats a good dot build that also goes fast?

>>743759784
if you go berserker/nightblade for bleed you get a bunch of movespeed/max movespeed and movement skills

>>743760048
alright sounds good, never played gd wish me luck :)

>>743760114
berserker isn't out until thursday and you'll need to own Fangs of Asterkarn btw

>>743761086
oh yeah i know that

>>743754083
>you can do that in poe easily
I haven't played PoE in quite a while, so maybe something has changed?
But back when I used to play PoE, which was years ago, you had to find Orbs of Regret, and they only return 1 (one) skill point instead of all of them, and the drop rate for them was abysmal. I reached maps and had to quit because my build wasn't strong enough for the last level of maps, and just kept dying and losing my xp. So I had to try and respec my character. But it probably would've taken me years of farming Orbs of Regret to get enough for a full respec. Not going to waste my time on that.

But maybe they changed it now so that Orbs of Regret restores all your skill points?

>>743763201
you can respec with gold now

>>743763201
So TL;DR: It's only "easy" to respec in PoE1 after you reach Maps and farm up a bunch of Gold.
Before that, still miserable.

>>743763375
>>743763401
>you can respec with gold now
Alright, I didn't know that. I'm going to take a look at it. Maybe give it another try in that case.

>>743763787
I like gold. I like gold a LOT

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>new Hero Siege season in 1 month
Alright that is my time limit for Grim Dawn then. 3 weeks max to get a rest and not burn out from the genre.

>>743765785
Every time I come back to this game it feels like a totally different game.

>>743765785
wtf is hero siege

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>>743765886
They work a lot on it but it's good progress.
>>743765921
A former roguelike survivors turned arpg . Apparently Diablo 2 boomers like it quite a lot when they try it because lots of stuff copied. It's the arpg that really tickles my brain the most.
Also fuck Minecraft Dungeons 2 is also coming out not so far off.

Missed the last expansion so Im going Oathkeeper Berserker and going to try to make something work with the Whirlwind/cyclone skill.

>>743766391
How did you miss that expansion for 7 years?

>>743766391
>absolutely no synergy besides generic aspd buffs
Umazing.

>>743766391
I would have just focused on Berserker skills and pumped Presence of Virtue, Resilience and Ascension to support them.

Is it only me or is berserker underwhelming? I only really think it's good paired with night blade

ayo why every skill is like you reduce popo pepe resist by 1% + 0.5% per level lmao nice game lole and den you can only max like 3 such skills LOL

warlock ,cabalist, or some nightblade/ build?

>>743766809
>>743767206
I wanted to do the cyclone skill though. What's a good synergy class for it?

>>743767892
Looks like it could synergise with Soldier, Night Blade, Occultist, Arcanist, Shaman, Necromancer, maybe some overlap with Inquisitor for cold damage

>>743770790
Shaman is great, soldier and demo are alright.

>>743770709
I want to like Warlock but I always end up mana screwed
Nightblade/Occultist with a focus on the knife throw skill is pretty fun though.

>>743770790
Go shaman so you can have wind devils and then you can spin with them. For even more spinning you can get the elemental storm celestial power and put it on the wind devils