>tw 40k looks great.>dawn of war 4 is shaping up nice. New necron trailer gives it some hope.>boltgun 2 is hype.>chaosgate: deathwatch might be good.>SM2 and darktide are getting constant updates if not frequent.The future of 40k is looking stonk. Are you investing?https://youtube.com/watch?v=wFtKLe0IMwE
>>743729764Nu-necrons are reddit af
>>743730083Small claims court simulator when?
>>743730702You cant deny the claim
I only recently began getting into Warhammer since playing Space Marine 2. The lore is cool and crazy deep. I like the Imperial Fists.
>>743731247orkz are still orkz.Shud 'av invested in tha green tide.
>>743731382The lore is more akin to "wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle", with the usual answer to anything being "it depends", "the warp" or "everything kinda goes". Still, it is pulpy fun.
>>743731674Of course you'd have such an opinion when you post xkcd inspired "memes"
>>743731734no, seriously, where is the 40k lore truly deep?
If the warp sensitive Tau auxiliaries were able to give birth to a warp entity that works in service of the Tau empire then why the fuck did the Eldars end up giving birth to a chaos god that wants to eat their souls? Wouldn't the logic dictate that either Tau'va should also screw over the auxiliaries or Slaanesh should have been the ultimate Eldar slut?
>>743731846because the Tau auxiliaries have been "yay, greater good!" and the ancient Eldar have been "yay, western degeneracy".Its pretty straight forward, actually
>>743731928Yes but eldar degeneracy has been shit like fucking each other with se7en style knife dildos or making Volta della Cappella Sistina out of jizz. Slaanesh just straight eats eldar souls, doesn't even orgy them or anything.
>>743729764Kino trailer>>743730083The nucrons are infinitely better than the one note terminators in space their earlier incarnations were, especially when the new lore of them still allows for the emotioneless killbot approach of necrons as well.
>>743729764>The future of 40k is looking stonk. Are you investing?Shan't until we get a Black Crusade game from Owlcat
>>743731846Slaanesh hates her creators because at the moment of it's birth to divinity, the Eldar en mass recoiled in horror, terror and disgust at what their debauchery had created, which in turn made Slaanesh eternally vengeful towards the Eldar.
>>743732025because Slannesh is more than just sex? Gluttony is perfectly within the domanin of xher
>>743732516>because Slannesh is more than just sexSure. He's also the chaos god of excess. That said, her eating souls isn't really a show of excess outside of the quantity. It's not like she makes an ostentatious display of it or draws out their suffering.
>>743732092>owlcrapThe worst studio making warhammer games. Their storylines and writing is absolute dogshit.
>>743731804Horus heresy has more than 50 books.
>>743732757yes, and most of them are skippable filler content. Which supports the "wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle" notion.
>>743731804Everyone forgot it existed but Liber Chaotica tried to give way more nuance to Chaos and they wouldn't be one note villains to defeat for muh superhero Girlyman and Emprah. Nightlords Omnibus. Supposedly Ciaphas Cain books but haven't read them
>>743732092>OwlcuckFuck off
>>743732850Everything is filter if it doesn't matter to you.
>>743731435>green >color of orks, necrons, nurgle, tyrannids and salamandersI have green fatigue.
>>743732864but what is deep, deep lore about the Nightlord Omnibus? Dont get me wrong, its a nice story. But thats not what is asked, right? You get the tale of one Warband doing its thing, ending in a cliffhanger that didnt get a resolution for 14 (fourteen) years and counting.
>>743729764Have they shelved Slaanesh yet? I remember people talking about GW doing that a few years back.
>>743733306No. Neither in 40k, nor in Fantasy, nor in Age of Sigmar.
>>743733306They bitched out and left Eldar in the cuck corner
>>743733030>resolution What resolution? Talos is the doom of that eldar craftworld and who gives a single fuck about what happens to the eldar
>>743733306No, he just got a big push in Age of Sigmar. They published this short story I really likehttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/20rph39a/chronicles-of-ruin-passions/
>>743731804I'd answer this question but you are obviously a mindless retard that will change the definition of "deep" every 5 seconds to suit your purposes so there is no point.
>>743733306emperor's children got a big update last year.dark eldar are getting a big refresh this edition probably, they could do with one.
>>743733361the resolution of >new guy unites the Night Lords as a legion to destroy Ulthweand nothing happens for the next 14 real life years, we never hear of a united Night Lords legion ever again and Ulthwe still stands, strong as ever.
>>743732850You're like a retarded fucking parrot repeating the same line you heard from another midwit that has 10 IQ points higher than you. "Wide as an ocean deep as a puddle" spoke to you and made you feel like a genius once. It's not even fucking relevant to 40k. Even if a lot of it is bad (it is), it's definitively deep you fucking moron.
>>743732864>Supposedly Ciaphas Cain books but haven't read themCain books feel almost like an alternate take on 40k. The scale is smaller, its less grim and dark than ordinary, it feels like humanity gets the occasional win for once.
>>743729764It's Kronus again?
>>743733472humanity always gets a win, as long as a space marine captain with a name but without helmet is present. Everything else is redshirt stuff, made to die so helmness space marine dude with name will look more badass
40K Total War won't be good for at least 5 years after release.
>>743733621That's what makes it good, its Imperial Guard scoring a win.
everything is reddit unless they're being racist and sexist unironically
>>743729764Been playing Darktide lately is really fun. Will also get DoW and TW but I suck at strategy games, so I know it won't be as enjoyable for me.
>Be GW>See successful game from studio>Bribe studio to remake it but with 40k>Repeat 3 times til the reputation of the studio is in tatters>move on to next studioand you retards buy it every single time
>>743732864The Cain books are a canonical self parody in which this guy goes around getting ridiculously lucky while wading through a nightmare horror setting.The books are in universe written by his girlfriend, who embellishes the stories for the sake of propaganda.The actual depth in the setting is quite literal and comes from the connections and interactions between everyone. Like, first you see space marines fighting orks, then you laugh at silly ork machinery, then you figure out the reason their schitzoid scraptech works is because they are all wizards, then you realize the reason they are all wizards is because the old ones engineered a mushroom they found into a magical self reproducing bioweapon, then you realize the reason the warp is so fucked is because said bioweapon is violent as fuck and started a chain, self reinforcing reaction by pumping pure violent thought into the immaterial realm.Warhammer is also a bit of an outlier in that the gods were created by mortals, not the other way around. Except of course the one exception which is the cult mechanicus, who are the one and only monotheists in the setting that.And so on and so on. It's a big setting where everything builds on top of everything else for half a century now.It's just the retcons that keep resetting shit and making less interesting.
>>743733717Headcanon is crucial after a while. Pick and mix. Yeah pay lip service to current canon but pretty much edit out what sucks.Great Rift/Fall of Cadia onwards I completely ignore
>People always claimed TW would be impossible in a 40K settingRekt
>No nids as a big bad threat>No Tau, even tho they consider Kronus a part of their shithole empire
>>743733474Yes.
>>743733658Not this time. The new engine will be great. You just see.
>>743733795>People without a shred of imagination think thing is impossible.And that's why they aren't devs.
>>743733717>who embellishes the stories for the sake of propaganda.That's untrue. She is jealous of him having flings with other women when she read his memoirs so she tries to expose and ridicule him at every possible instance. The books are classified btw. The books are considered light reading for entertainment by her inquisitorial colleagues.
>>743733798>DLC2 faction>DLC3 factionWhy are you whining? Just buy the game if you want them.
>>743733795Well it's definitely not a traditional Total War game. Gameplay looks more akin to Halo Wars with a Star Wars: Empire at War sector map to campaign across.
>>743733709It is not GWs fault if the studio decides to enshittify their games over time.
>>743729764Reminder that warhammer 40k is being built to be able to run on the xbox series S, so temper your expectations
>>743734719That's good news though. If it could run on a shitbox then it will run very well on my PC.
>>743734753good news for running the games, bad news for the game itself
>>743734719>Good optimization is bad nowLol
>>743734782What changes exactly for the game? Show proof in the gameplay they've shown until now.
>>743734753>>743734796The point is that the game will be gutted with fewer tactical options and far lesser complexity so that it could be played with a controller.
>>743734839Modern TW is not complex enough to have a fit about it's control scheme
40k is a good example of where "old=good, new=bad" is truewatered down and sanitized for the "wider audience", it's hilarious seeing this "wider audience" complain they're gonna water down and make the setting "woke" to appeal to they believe is the wider audience, acting like that didnt already happen
>>743734839The newest gameplay shows more tactical options than current total wars though.
>>743734902A lot of buzzwords to say nothing in the end
>>743734990you'll see faggots on xitter complaining that they're changing the game to appeal to a wider audience, acting like they themselves arent the wider audience as GW already did that in 8th edition
>>743732056>The nucrons are infinitely better than the one note terminators in space their earlier incarnations wereTomb Kings in space is boring as fuck fuckoff, calling OldCrons boring is like calling Tyranids boring.I don't care about melodrama bullshit, it's 40K
>>743734902>40k is a good example of where "old=good, new=bad" is trueThat applies to 90% of entertainment
Remember guys lore is only deep (and thus good) when it's a mild recolour of gnosticism.
>>743735351Oldcrons were already TC in space.Their architecture were always Egyptian in nature.
>>743735351the type of people that call oldcrons boring would genuinely have no problem getting rid of TSons
>>743735420>TCTomb Coons?
>>743729764>hypeyeah right
>>743729764>darktide>constant updatesLMFAOOOOOFANTASYCHADS, POINT AT LAUGH AT THE 40KEKSWEBM RELATED, 40KEKS ON A DAILY BASIS
>>743729764Necron bros cant stop winning. Still I hate them jobbing to the imperium. It makes zero sense that such an advanced faction could lose to anyone in the setting.
>>743735420>Oldcrons were already TC in space.In design, not fucking writingNow it's just constant infighting retarded shit with human voiced characters instead of an unrelenting alien force that sometimes diverges in objectives.
>>743735351>calling OldCrons boring is like calling Tyranids boringCorrect, they're boring
>>743735508anon there are billions of examples of plot holes and trash writing in this setting>why would nids lose if they keep evoloving?>why do necrons lose if they are the most advanced?>why do eldar lose of they are so perfect apparently? >why do deldar lose for the same reason>why do orks lose if they constantly surprise you with new bullshit and can use almost anything to make almost anything?>why do votaan lose if they have dark age tech?>why does chaos lose if they are so grand in the warp and the material world is insignificant to them and have 4 mingling titans aiding them?
>>743735508>Necron bros cant stop winningIt's even true in the tabletop. Necrons are either the top most played faction or in the top 3, always, because they have been consistently good and they don't get nerfed, so people keep buying them and there's a huge 2nd hand market.
>>743735603evolving*if they are so perfect*ftfm
>>743735603Every one of those questions has been explicitly answered in their own codexes.
>>743735591They're boring if you're low T and emotional like a woman
>>743735648yeah yeah
>>743735603>nids: each hive fleet is competing with each other and they don't have FTL so their evolutions mean little when the other races can counter them within that time>necrons: decay of their components, mental illness and in-fighting>eldar: too retarded>deldar: too retarded and their capital cum rag is under siege by chaos daemons>orks: whipped by nids and imperium into being bitch boys while also infighting>votaan: isolationist policies and w*man leader >Chaos: they are winning
Nu-Crons have a couple of cool things going for them>Transcendent C'tan>Skorpekh Destroyers>Crypteks>Praetorians and Lychguard>Serapatek Heavy Construct>Motherfucking Illuminor SzerasLike, look at this guy doing his thing. I feel like there is a way to balance both sides of the Necrons. If it was Oldcrons with certain nu-cron elements like living experimentation and the like, that would be fucking great.Still mad the Pariah Nexus storyline didn't bring back the fucking Pariahs, Szeras of all people would be the one to bring them back.
>>743735687Nah, you're just a low prole that enjoys the most basic of things.
>>743735508Less Space Marine slop, and more Necron literature.
Any Armageddon Steel Legion fans here or have they all been destroyed over the third war mostly being Kriegers?
>>743735996I am but only because of sergeant major Morrow.
>>743732092Would love that but sadly evil campaigns are not popular in crpgs.
>>743735925Middle one is ok, left one is pure reddit shit
>>743736260Only the Trazyn parts because Trazyn is Reddit: the Cron. Orikan is always cool.
>>743733306He/she had more model released in the time when supposedly GW was removing her than before, so no
>>743729764peak red dit including the shilling. Jeet!
if necrons are so powerful why do they bother with ground combat instead of destroying things from orbit/using unmanned automated drones?
>>743731382shill post no. 2
>>743736380Because Tomb Worlds, no point destroying planets if most of your dynasty is sleeping under the ground.Plus, Necrons cannot reproduce. Any cron that is permanently dead is one less Necron forever.
>>743735925Infinite and Divine getting a sequel, shall be more necron shenanigans.
>>743736417They have canopteks and actual AI necrons that can larp as figures of old.
>>743736417they just need to scorch the surface to make it uninhabitable for organic loife
>>743729764>tw 40k looks great.I see zoomers already forgot WH3 release
>>743735508jeet shill no. 3
>>743736480Any Inquisitor worth their salt would tell you that would not work with Orks or Nids. At this point in the universe, wouldn't be surprised if that list also included Chaos and Votann
>>743734584Gameplay looks like Total War always was, but with more shooting, cover and destruction playing a bigger role and customizable units
>>743735798I can see GW's motivation for moving most of the conflicts towards chaos partially to have less narratives that is just isnt just racism
>>743733709Devs beg for IP on their own40k games from those devs are better than what they did before and are not in tatters lol
>>743735925jeet shill no. 4
>>743729764I am thoroughly disinterested in those games.
>>743735842Nothing more basic and easy than human melodrama.
>>743735925>>743735508>NuCron cringe
>>743736821I feel like we have hit the spot of nu-nucrons now, because something like pic related wouldn't work well with 5th edition crons.
>>743736821>Sodazthin skinned cuck
>>743729764The Titan and Savior of gamingAll the best video games made are 40k gamesThe only games worth waiting for are 40k games
>>743736821>Contrarian vitriol
>>743736984All Asians are incredibly thin skinned emotional cuckolds. They're into humiliation and 'ntr' because they're completely fucked in the head. He was sent messages from GW and he thought they were DMCA's when they were the opposite, they were offers of work but because he's an emotion cripple, he threw a melty instead of trying to get someone to translate it for him. He literally just saw the letters 'GW' and thought they were trying to shut him down without reading what the message was.
why don't you mention mechanicus 2, chud???
>>743733412>dark eldar are getting a big refresh this editionmore like fart smelldar
>>74373599640k peaked with 3rd edition battle for Armageddon. Steel Legion will always be near to my heart and new models would just about the only way for me to start with 40k again.I've had a dream of making an Armageddon coalition force style army where you have stuff like Steel Legion, Black Templars and Salamanders in one big army together
>>743731674A guardsman wouldn't think that. He would instantly give his life for the Emperor.
>>743737140Because it is not a good game, just like owlcat's shitty games.
>>743731804The nature of chaosThe origins of the Tau and especially the Ethereals that lead themAll the minor xenos and other mysteries like the Tyrant StarAlpha LegionThe inner workings and bureaucracy of the ImperiumThat's off the top of my head.
>>743733798Nids were the big bad in Dow2, and the last time we saw necrons was in 2008 so I welcome them back. And if I could swap Orkses or Primarvelis for Tau, I would
>>743737191Where did all these Steel Legion fans come from? Before 11th nobody gave a shit about them. I've seen more people ask for Vostroyans, Mordians, Valhallans and Catachan than I have Steel Legion.
>>743735508>>743735925Aww shit, thanks man, more Necron books
>>743737113It's not a very contrarian view to be disgusted by the necrons going from egyptian space terminators who barely speak to quirk chunguses who totally beat the gods that gave them their power to begin with into submission and use them like pokemon.>B-b-but the warriors and other lower ranking necrons are still the same!Yeah, and that's the only good part about nucrons.
>>743737426I know a few old heads that have their models, I think part of it was the return of Armageddon and people being pissed the other gasmask boys stole the thunder.
>>743735351Tomb Kings are more interesting than Nucrons though, calling Nucrons Tomb Kings in space is an insult to Tomb Kings.
>>743737449I already made a promise to myself that if Dow4 will be moddable, I will port the sfx from Dow1 and make the all the necron units stfu. I like the new models, but everything else is poison to me
Here's one thing I don't understand about nucrons. How do they replenish their numbers? Oldcrons could make pariahs out of other races, but nucrons can't make anything?
>>743737786its not like they're the tau, they have worlds across the entire galaxy, they have plenty of numbers
>>743737786Pariahs were always a crushing minority of their forces, they made them out of humans with the pariah gene who are already unbelievably rare on their own, so they had to catch one and transform them.Neither oldcrons nor soicrons could or can replenish their losses, but it's very difficult to actually destroy a cron permanently, as with enough damage they just phase away to their tomb to be repaired. You basically have to blow up the entire tomb complex the erase them for good
>>743737449>quirk chunguseswhy do secondaries pretend "nucrons" are like this
>>743737924because they get all their lore from aislop jewtube channels that don't know anything about 40k
>>743737924Suspect they think every nucron is like Trazyn, forgetting he's kind of an outlier
>>743735925necrons look so fucking stupid I can't believe it, hate that they take so much space in 40k
>>743737924Half of 40k "fans" have no models. They have no books. They own no codices. They have never picked up a paintbrush. It's just reposting memes and opinions from youtubers and shitposters to feel part of a greater community.
>>743730083absolutely40k in 2026 is for those who need to do something while their wife's boyfriend is fucking her in the next room
>>743737924Why do you pretend Trazyn isn't exactly that?
>>743738035Correct I'm poor, I still read the books though I just don't buy them.
>>743738049Can you post a few other examples of quirk chungus necrons?
>>743738035The models haven't been the most important part for so long I am amazed you are making this stand
>>743737924When the baseline for necrons was no talking at all (with the exception of Pariahs which were anomalies), anything more talkative and personable than that is quirk chungus in comparison.
>>743738070>i-i-it doesn't count!40k is a rotting franchise.
I'm enjoying Rogue trader quite a bit, so far Argenta with a heavy bolter servers a better power fantasy than space marine 2.
>>743734584Halo Wars is an RTS. TW is a mix of overworld and RTS. So of course they will have mechanics that are alike.
>>743737786Necrons cannot truly die. If the necrodermis itself is unable to self-repair an injury, the damaged necron is phased out into a resurrection gallery where the necrodermis is repaired and the necron can be deployed again.They have no need to replenish their numbers because none of them are ever truly lost, just damaged beyond self-repair capacity.
>>743732957Play Mordians
desu I don't like the primaris lore/designs and the primarch wank
>>743733795I was wrongI'm sorry anon!
>>743738723The sleeker primaris look has grown on me as of late. While the firstborn will always be #1 in my heart, I don't hate the primaris either.
>>743738823I like how they handled primaris in harrowmaster.>Who TF are the silver templars?
>>743729764Which of the rts or other kind of games allow me to just mech around with tau mechas without otherwise being complete ass?
>>743739040Pretty sure dow1 is the only one even close to what you want
>>743739040Dawn of War 1 has Tau as a playable faction.I think Dawn of War 2 has a Tau commander (he is in a battlesuit) in the topdown action mode. I've literally never played it so I have no idea how it is but pretty sure every faction in Dawn of War 1 and 2 has a playable hero in there, even the ones otherwise unplayable in DoW2 like Necron and Tau.
>>743739040Men of War Assault Squad 2https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1589620185
>>743739040DoW1DoW2 Elite mod has them now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ogNm-MbRH8Gladius
Orks are just pathetic. Imagine being an orks player.
>>743735547The writing of oldcrons was fucking trash and shallow as a puddle. They were just metal tyranids that were enslaved to totallynotchaosgods. There was nothing enigmatic or interesting about them under the "~~ooo so spooopy~~" facade they had.
How's the current state of Darktide? Haven't played a horde shooter in so long I'm feeling the itch for it.
>>743729764No mention of Dark Heresy? It's what I'm most looking forward to
>>743738130Only utterly retarded and detatched tertiaries make claims like this. The models ARE THE FUCKING PRIMARY PART OF THE HOBBY, you dipshit. That is where GW gets the bulk of their fucking money from. That is where the biggest spenders of the hobby are. That is the fucking hobby as far as GW and the people who actually fucking like 40k and engage in it are concerned.
>>743739759It's pretty fun and far more stable than it was at launch. I really enjoy the Skitarii class they added recently.
>>743739759lately it crashes every other match for me so i quitill play space marine 2 or something idk
>>743739835>>743739859Im getting mixed signals here
>>743739759I started recently and it's really fun
>>743739859Are you using an AMD card perchance?
>>743739803>Only utterly retarded and detatchedSpeaking of detached, let me roll my eyes real quick.
>playing a video game is now being called investing
>>743739759Corridors the game
>>743733472>it feels like humanity gets the occasional win for once.if you look at the map of the galaxy it should be obvious that humanity must be getting wins somewhere or the imperium wouldn't still be standing or even expanding in some directionsthe big dramatic space marine set pieces happen in the locations where this isn't the case, by necessitythe Cain novels document conflicts where the guard is able to handle it for the most part, because if they got wiped every time you couldn't get a recurring cast.
>>743739803You're right, and that anon is retarded, but we need to explain further. The books and lore and even games that secondaries jerk off over are all nonsensical poorly written garbage fires that are only remotely cool when experienced in a vacuum because the "setting" is a narrative mess without an ounce of cohesion because ALL of it exists solely to sell plastic toys, which is all GW cares about.
>>743739910This game has a severe case of it works on my machine. AMD support in particular was never good.That said, I have SM2 and Vermintide 2 and Darktide, I'd definitely rank Darktide lowest.SM2 has a thoroughly enjoyable single player campaign, Darktide has the largest variety of shooting gameplay and Vermintide has the best melee gameplay. I lost interest in shooting pretty quickly and Darktide also has the worst technical performance.Also sprinting and sliding got annoying really quickly.
>>743733621IG hacked the system by giving Cain a name
>>743736467That is extremely dishonorable and no sane self respecting phaeron would ever agree to that.
>>743729764Filthy British property that should belong to America.
Why even have 2 playable Imp factions? 1 had only SM in vanilla(+ PDF IG in campaign), and people were fine with that.
>>743740090Yeah, the books in general are fucking garbage with fanfiction.net tier writers behind the storylines. There are the few occasional decent books here and there but the bulk of what Black Library puts out is just embarassing shit. Especially when the authors use those books to push their own pet issues be it wankery over their favorite faction or worse, their fetishes or daddy issues etc. The only overall decent writing in 40k is in the codexes and especially the older rulebooks because the more detatched and less character driven narratives and exploration of the setting in the format of those books generally shields them from the worst shit BL authors tend to end up writing in their more narrative novels. Plus for actual hobby enthusiasts who collect the models, paint them and play games with them, the lore of the setting is just a springboard for making your own stuff anyways. Plenty of people just make their own color schemes for their armies and come up with some lore for their dudes etc and in my opinion that is where the soul of the hobby is.
>>743740131so you can plug in more niggers and trannies? fuck off, you yankee wanker.
>>743740452>yankeeI'm gonna report you for racism
>>743740131As shit as GW is, they're at least VERY protective of their IPIf an American company owned it, it would've been raped long ago like MTG isThanks WotC!
>>743740452Right, like they arent already doing that you fucking idiot. This property could not be less British if it tried and they keep trying to change it and it needs to be in the hands of people who just want to make money instead of appeal to that shit.Also it would deprive Britain of one of its major exports, which would be funny. For whatever reason Britain is the man producer of every plastic model range on the planet, and that should change considering who the biggest buyer is. Americans. Americans should own and produce it, not retards that worship bend over for muslims and are now letting them call the shots on what their culture is.
>>743739634>>743739634>There was nothing enigmatic or interesting about them under the "~~ooo so spooopy~~" facade they had.Yes there was
>>743740615The way you guys bend over for blacks then is fine?
>>743740625You lost. Now quit hiding behind irony and comedy, fool.
>>743740131death to america
>>743734719>xbox series S,stronger than what TW players have
>>743740625There wasn't. You propably don't even fucking own the first necron codex. It is thin as fuck, and ultimately there is barely anything there besides vague allusions GW tries to build with the half baked C'tan lore that at the time of it's introduction was extremely sloppy and basically just introduced yet another series of asshole gods but this time they were also star vampires. The og C'tan and their necron slaves had thinner fucking lore than the god damn Tau or the Leagues of Votan when they were introduced. GW reworking the Necron concept and giving more agency to the actual necrons than the C'tan was a good corrective measure to the original half assed lore, and the way they handled the C'tan by turning them into shards sort of like Avatars of Kaine are mere fractions of the power of the shattered Eldar god of War, got rid of the fucking retarded nonsense where supposed gods of the Necrons are wieldable units on the battlefield that can be killed by a space marine with a melta bomb. The "new"cron lore is a wholesale improvement on the old lore, anyone who has actually read both and isn't some dipshit secondary that got their ideas of what necrons are from memes and Dawn of War would agree with me.
>>743733795OH NO NO NO
>>743740998Old was bad because c'tans were retardedNu is bad because they're basically metal humans now (also c'tans are still retarded)
>>743740187You mean in TW40K? That was the original plan. CSM, SM, Eldar and Orks, IG only as npcs. DoW1 again. That's how we heard about it from first Valrak's leaksCSM were then cucked out of a base game by IG which were expanded from their NPC status. Probably so there aren't 3 Elite factions and only 1 Horde faction with numbers fitting Total War. This is important for Total War, see how many people are malding about 5 models in Space Marine units already. IG were then designed as a traditional Total War faction. Orks are 2nd most similar to Total War playstyle faction. Eldar and Marines are Elite and very different to what TW playerbase is used.Honestly, I think it was a good call ultimately
>>743731804Nowhere. It's just aesthetics and that's enough to carry it when every large other science fiction franchise has blown its brains out for the modern audience. 40k is getting ready to as well.
lets say i want to get into warhammeris there any place to start or i just..consume randomly? consider i will memoryhole 90% of almost everything unless i really find it interesting
>>743741527Grab a couple codices from the general on /tg/ and flip through them. See what looks cool to you.
>>743741284The problem I felt with TW:WH was that it started off strong with very asymmetric factions which made it interesting then as they began to add more factions, the asymmetry just fades as each newly added faction tends to recycle systems from existing factions, eventually running out of ideas to create mechanically distinct factions, thus leading to overlap and no unique identity for any faction at all.
>>743741527You mean the tabletop or vidya? For vidya I got into the setting through Rogue Trader. Couldn't care less about tabletop
>>743740642At least they arent literal pedophiles that openly declare they want to murder and replace you in broad daylight unopposed, and are actually doing it. At least for the most part our imports INTEGRATE. Hows the grooming gangs going faggot, nice election on your new leader too btw. Cuck nation, we will inherit 40k eventually by virtue of not being broke as fuck and America just being a far better place to produce and distribute by and for.>>743740574I disagree, I think they would treat it more precious than Britain does. The only reason there has been pushback on the bullshit they keep doing is because vocal Americans voice dissent and have the freedom to do so. Without American outcry you would be looking at tranny space marines. Just look at Age of Sigmar, you think they wont, but they literally showed you what they would do when the dust settles.
>>743741743in general i meanin vidya i've played both boltguns and the first and remake of the first space marine
>>743741527Rogue Trader is probably the best gateway to 40k
>>743741751Americans talk a lot of shit to Brits for grooming gangs when their government continues to cover up Epstien. Americans are such good little goys that actually run defense for their masters while Brits at least loathe them, Americans worship theirs.
>>743741901LOL
>>743741901True. It's how I got into it.
>>743729764I'm not even that into Dawn of War but I'll probably be getting 4 just to tide me over until Total War 40
>>743741918Everyone disliked the Epstein shit, but hes dead, you are actively bringing in and coddling living pedo rapists, and protecting them. Were not the same. Noone liked the Epstein stuff and wants it uncovered, YOU are trying to cover up that its currently happening because youre afraid of reprisal from your new masters. Warhammer is too cool for Britain and needs to be taken away, Im not joking. Britain needs to be pushed out adrift to the middle east and left to do whatever the fuck that is its currently doing.Nice election by the way, all those replaced PMs get a big payout even when they leave and are set for life, your taxes pay for that and you clap and cheer with each replacement. Were not the same.
>>743742528>he's dead that means it never happened, no one needs to be prosecuted and convicted it doesn't matter anymore he's dead it's overgood goy
>>743741918>>743742528>2 golems of israel arguing about who is betterLmao hilarious
>>743741751You're ruled by an egocentric idiot with very close ties to a pedophile ring master who follows every order Netanyahu gives and sends you to die for Israel while he fills his pockets. You are not better than anyone lmao.
Warhammer video games?
>>743734584More to do with having to be designed around a controller unlike previous total wars than it does with the change to a more ranged based setting, i'm sure it could have been good if the failure of hyenas hadn't forced them into a short term money grab damn the long term consequences
>>743729764Why is Speed Freaks all bots? It's a solid game that plays like Twisted Metal for free... every couple of months I'll check it out again in hopes things have changed... but it's always just bots.
>>743743690I'm cautiously optimistic about Boltgun 2 since I enjoyed the demo.
>>743735351the only thing I miss about oldcrons is the whole pariah thing, literally the best part of a ciaphas cain book
>>743743978It'll only have fewer players over time. The devs wanted to do more gamemodes but GW went full autism and said they can't do any that don't have a racing theme in them somehow.
>>743743978it was packed with Chinese cheaters when it came out and everyone abandoned it, so now its dead.People need to stop making niche games multiplayer dependent, it fucking sucks because the game is fun. If you want Gorkamorka done right play Fume. The Speed Freaks game shouldve had an element of driving around the badlands fucking shit up, instead they made a competative racing game noone plays.
I like tomb kings over Necrons
>>743744835>jeet race>everybody loves themwould we love indians if they were fictional?
Is Henry Cavill still protecting the lore?
>>743745081Poo obsession
>>743744835I wish I could get into WHFB, something doesnt click for me. Like I like the characters in it a lot more than 40K but something doesnt work with it for me there.Storm of Chaos is the canon ending by the way, Grimgor is awesome and doesnt get mentioned enough.
>>743746067I don't know why anyone takes GW's campaign events seriously after how poorly they retconned SoC
>>743737196I'd give my life if that's what's asked
>>743737123>He was sent messages from GW and he thought they were DMCA's when they were the opposite,Wow.. blessed be asian fragility. He just dodged a bullet with what piece of shit Warhammer+ is, not to mention GW is making literal AI lawsuits to terrorrize everyone.
>>743737196Speaking of, how prevalent is the Imperial Cult really?
>>743747767>how prevalent is the Imperial Cult really?Imperial cult is uber-christianity in it's spread. Where normally in Europe some pagan traditions had to be integrated for christianity to ever take hold. In 40k you're a lucky backwater if you got that treatment and else everything is getting steamrolled especially if it's a shrine world. Ultramar which is literally the realm of ultramarines is wholly embbed within the imperial cult. And space marines are one of the factions who have atheistic immunity keeping imperial truth of old. The recruits just get psycho-indoctrinated back away from imperial cult as far as I read.
>>743748158I thought Guilliman was horrified by what had become of the Imperium, so I wonder if all that religious shit is still kosher in Ultramar.
>>743737123lol this can't be real
>>743748790He became a believer after Mortarion almost killed him, the Emperor basically bailed him out and cured the disease Nurgle made specifically to kill Primarchs, and set fire to Nurgle's Garden.He actually read Lorgar's book after that.
>>743739759>Made by fartshartShould tell you enough
>>743735925>trooncrons
>>743749773>He actually read Lorgar's book after that.lmao
>>743749773God how disappointed the Emperor must be
>>743735351Tomb Kings were always cooler than Oldcrons, 40kid.
>>743736821>nomodels secondary bitching
>>743752042>muh modelsBoo hoo hoo faggot they don't matter jack shit
>>743735687>twitternigger seething
>>743735687Tyranids are boring beyond belief, the entire setting would be better without them
>>743729764Necrons are the only good thing about WH40k.
>>743752219they feel like the only good faction now
I cannot retain any information related to 40k and it annoys me. It's all krieg to me.
>>743737924There is a legion of secondary retards off-site that bitch about shit they neither understand nor care to understand.
>>743752298>It's all krieg to me.you are a retard we can see that
>>743752458What 40k word rhymes with greek?
>>743743414Brits are saying this verbatim about the grooming gangs.
>>743737924Any and all personality in necrons is irredeemable dogshit. They are supposed to be machine men inhabited by the barest shreds of a soul, just enough to provide locomotion and basic function to act as the undying troops of an army headed by the C'tan.But nooo, redditors want their armies to have "character".
>>743738035never bought/painted a modelstill pirate books (most of them are shit, ciaphas kain is reddit incarnate)
>>743743542How much longer until the glorious IRGC annihilates the USAF and Navy? 14 days?
>>743740131Americans wouldn know a QUATER of IP's and ideas that the Brits at GW stole from>Cadians LookStarship Troopers>Chaos and 8 pointed starMoorcock>Fulgrim Copy of Elric>warp and stuff araund traveling in itCordwainer Smith>ArbeitiesJudge Dread>Dark ElvesMelnibone >WHFBjust Historicals with other fantasy minis>Navigators, name Lasguns and God EmperorDUNEActually. You can count GW's original ideas on a sawyers hand
>>743752076According the GW itself, they very much do. Seethe more, secondary
>>743732056Can necrons talk now? I remember old lore saying only high ranking necrons can barely talk in other languages while most talk in unholy static that makes you want to stab your ear drums. In DC they had the pariahas that could talk.
SM2 is ungodly frustrating with how useless the teammates are when it comes to shooting gargoyles off things and they neither help or give me cover.
>>743741695welcome to fucking war, factions eventually adapt tactics that works, if they can anyway
>>743752691>They are supposed to be machine men inhabited by the barest shreds of a soul, just enough to provide locomotion and basic function to act as the undying troops of an army headed by the C'tan.That was retconned ages ago and good riddance
>>743752691Seething secondary
>>743752691>But nooo, redditors want their armies to have "character".Because that is kind of a Point you utter twat. OldCrons were interesting but very one note and with only paint scheme diffrences. And since Warhammer is ...well a model based game where you are invited to make /yourdudes/. It was kind of limiting.
>>743751769He is not. The emperor of 40k isn't the same as 30k. He is literally a god according to the terms set in the universe now. Doesn't matter if he wanted it or not.
>>743753282lame
>>743729764so when are they going to make a good game that isnt rts bullshit?doesnt even really matter though since 40k is woke now but whatever
>>743748158>Where normally in Europe some pagan traditions had to be integrated for christianity to ever take hold.>In 40k you're a lucky backwater if you got that treatment and else everything is getting steamrolled especially if it's a shrine world.Isn't the point of Imperial cult is that it allows some wiggle room and that even sacrifices are allowed. Or how on some planet he is either a SunGod or some god of the land shit.
>>743753394>>743753394>>743753394>>743753394>>743753328>>743753282>>743753275Warhammer Hero Shooter >6 vs 6>Fantasy and 40k represented>no role queueYes or yes /v/??
>>743753394>random seething about rts games
>>743753709>FantasyPass
>>743739759It is at the state it should have launched at. However the map design is still the most abysmal dogshit out of any coop shooter ever made, both mechanically and visually.
>>743753709>6vs6fuck off with this boring shitty small pvp games
>>743753709nosingle player gamefucking anything other than rts or turn based shit, and goodbut that is never going to happen, at least not from gw xemselves
>>743733438That's the wrong head to suck semen out of, dumb elf.
>>743733709Well of course I buy it. I want it.
>>743753029Yeah, and in its place they wrote hopeslop where the already biotransferred necrons somehow defeated the beings that gave them their power to begin with.So much better!
>>7437526913rd Edition Cron leaders already had personality and retained intelligence, even if it was damaged (just like now)This is why in Dark Crusade Necron Lord has plans of his own and in Soulstorm normally talks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFE5ct0aiH0 Which makes it particularly absurd that DoWfags complain about Necrons and talking and having personalitiesC'tan were nonsensical before retcon, which was the actual retcon, not the talking and personalities. They were too weak for a godlike beings, which was fixed with them being merely shattered and enslaved shards and it didn't make sense for Necrons to win the War in Heaven, when lore stated that Eldar ruled galaxy for 60 000 000 years, so it was fixed by changing them to losers thereOverall, a net positive improvement
>>743753275Then maybe you don't choose the enslaved space terminators faction if you don't want them to be enslaved space terminators.
>>743740452Have you seen the UK recently?
>>743752989That's not a good excuse. The crux of the issue is that they can have only so many factions before the factions start losing their uniqueness.
>>743753724goy npc
>>743753913Yes.
Why is the 40k fanbase so mindbroken on here? They keep acting like this space capeshit franchise is a religion that is being despoiled.
>>743752989>>743754154I want a new faction Votann are the dumbest idea ever
>>743754279>is a religionnot far off. It's the greatest setting ever created
>>743754208Care to elaborate as to why it is better?
>>743754320Votann are old faction. Their lore is identical to Squats people memed about
>>743752807Thats not a great argument, Lord of the Rings is inspired by a bunch of other stuff too and flat out rips some of it verbatim, what matters is how you compile it when you do this not the fact that you did it at all. There are no original ideas, humanity has been around longer than written text, the stories have been told, you just have to come up with different ways and styles of telling them.The fact that Warhammer condensed all that cool shit into a setting is rad as hell, not something to deride. I wish more creative properties would do the same. Noone is so creative that they can come up with a wholly unique concept, just look at what works and figure out how to apply it in a way that makes sense and is coo. You can absoloutely make something like Warhammer in America, from aesthetics to ideology.
>Muh nucron
>>743754715Chaos Androids will be back
>>743741009I remember having a heated discussion with that faggot who was shit sure that 40K Total war was impossible. The vindication, the catharsis.
>>743754749I-it’s gonna be s-shit
>>743741009I like that were getting 40k and Med 3 and theyre both on different engines.
>>743752909In Mechanicus the tech priests all "speak" is static sighs and whirrs while the Newcron bosses all speak plain english. It's very weird.
>>743754829Not him but I am mildly disappointed its taking place in great-rift era 40k and not pre-Cadia fall 40k
>>743729764Nooooo new game BAD! Only old game good!!!
>>743744163Same. Having the krieg dudes die for me in that one level with hordes of nurgle zombies was pretty fun. I like that they're expanding the mechanics of the game.I also liked the warhammer survivors demo and think it would be a great mobile timewaster on my commute if they'd ever release the damn thing.
>>743754867Cant shit talk the enemy and tell them to fuck off if they dont understand you, skeet doesnt care to communicate with anyone but themselves let alone talk shit, is how I rationalise it.
>>743754852>theyre both on different engines.They're both on Warcore, why would you even think that?
>>743754997Did they not say they are developing 2 different engines going forward, one for historic specifically and one for 40k?
>>743754867They don't actually talk in English, just like Imperials don't talk in English and neither do the Eldar. It's just a meta translation for players
>>743755046No
>>743754395No.
>>743755046No, Warcore was developed specifically because they tried to develop TW40k in Warscape and realized what a nightmare it was and that they need to do an engine updateIf you go to both official TW40k and Med3 websites they both mention using Warcore
>>743755062If that was the case, there wouldn't be shit talking between the species. It would just be them going "Fuck you, xenos" to everyone because their speech would be incoherent babble to eachother.
>>743755398NTA but all races communicate with each other either using translation technology or have representatives who can speak Gothic (since humanity is by far the ubiquitous race in the galaxy).
>>743741009>>743741009I don’t play Warhammer or total warWhy were people saying 40k doesn’t work? Isn’t it just fantasy but in space?
>>743755398It is the case even in Rogue Trader cRPG. You can talk to Xenos with your translator or disable and talk to Marazhai in particular since he knows Gothic language, but no matter what player reads it as English and same with Xenos talking between each other.This same is a thing in DoW, where you can play their specific campaigns and you read those in English... or any other language in which your game is. This is basic fantasy gimmick storytelling anon. Our language are just so we as players can understand it
>>743755628More shooting and less stabbing
>>743755649Well there's also the Necron language, it's all indecipherable screeches unless you get the translation
>>743739759If you like weapon combo autism with a high skill ceiling, go nuts.
>>743729764Every 40k game is the same game. Space people scream and shoot each other endlessly.
>>743755874Yea its awesome. Wish there was more like it. Helldivers 2 was a step in the right direction, Halo should try representing a war again instead of a casual jaunt.
>>743753709god, yes, more forgettable trend chasing slop that will burn millions and not make half of it back, just what we NEED RIGHT NOW
>>743753709Nope. Copy Helldivers or EDF, have different fronts with different enemies to fight, and picking different classes plays as a different kind of character. Like Fencer is a space marine, ranger is just a guard captain that can lead a bunch of guys around, air raider is a tech priest etc etc.I want big, loud and stupid. I want to be chased around by orks on bikes as captain players try to keep their men alive by issuing commands and leading men like pikmin as the space marine player twats the shit out of an ork nob that just called in reinforcements where the ork reinforcements are just drop pods that crash from the sky and pour out orks that all shout WAAAGH as some orchestral music plays, then the tech priest player rage quits and joins the tyrannid front because they want to fuck around with a tank and crush bugs for fun. Im sick of small scale skirmishes, there is a lot of cool shit in the setting that you will never see because they have focus on one or two factions and you never use vehicles or orbitals.
>>743753275>expecting a retarded secondary that has never touched the actual tabletop game to understand why a faction with zero customization options and shallow as fuck lore was poorly designed.The retards that seethe about "nucrons" are not people who actually play 40k. They get their ideas of what necrons are "supposed to be" from memes and dawn of war.
>>743748158What are you talking about?There are as many imperial cults as there are worlds. Whatever traditions there were on a world the Emperor got stapled onto it. Shrine worlds and pilgrimage sites regularly feature battles between various groups on how to venerate the Emperor.It's all much less standardized as one thinks. Not all Sobs are from the Our Martyred Lady order just as not every regiment is Cadian or chapter Ultramarine.Pay your tithe and worship the Emperor, everything else is interchangeable.
>>743757284see>>743753993
What's your dream 40k game?Hard mode: Not an Action RPGNightmare mode:No Space Marines
>>743735996This was the funniest shit ever.A trailer about Armageddon and they didn't even bother making a model for their regiment.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N3M9YA8CUI
>>743757797
>>743746067what the hell is fb?
>>743757797IG vehicle combat game. You switch between a handful of ground and air vehicles each level and fight through huge battlefields to complete objectives. The 2002 clone wars game but bigger and 40k basically. Slowly learning how to make it myself since no one else will
>>743757617>implying that your worthless tertiary ass even owns a single necron model from the first codex era they got. You didn't choose enslaved space terminators either dipshit, you played necrons in dawn of war or worse, got your ideas about them from fucking memes. The og necron lore was sloppy and actively contradicted previously established lore about the history of the 40k galaxy. The original versions of the C'tan were fucking retardedly written and had massively inconsistent power level in their lore vs how they were featured on the tabletop. GW changing their lore and giving the Necrons themselves agency is an objective fucking improvement on the lore of both the necrons and the c'tan. The most retarded element of you tertiaries is the fact that you can STILL fucking run the mindless space terminator shit with the updated necron lore, that type of necrons are still entirely viable in the setting. The only thing that changed for that approach is that the C'tan in your armies just shards of the star gods rather than being fully embodied star gods that can still get gibbed by a fucking predator tank etc. Then again, expecting you dipshits to be aware of this is kind of silly because you fucks don't actually fucking play 40k, nor do you even read the fucking codexes of the factions you supposedly like.
>>743757959Fantasy battles
>>743757959Warhammer Fantasy Battles is the name for the fantasy warhammer. WHFB.
>>743758009Why do you congratulate GW on "solving" the C'tan problem by changing the entire identity of the faction instead of simply removing the C'tan from being fieldable units?
>>743729764>Playing through DoW for the first time>These are my first 40k games>Love base game>Winter assault is harder but the perfect balance imo. Guard are fucking fun as hell to play and watch >Dark crusade the campaign I just galactic conquest. Very slow since it's just a bunch of skirmish maps back to back but I played necrons so it was pretty easy to blitz since honor guard is so strong and the necron MC can teleport to move even faster>Necrons were fun but the tau are extremely annoying >Fuck doing the other "campaigns" though lol>Soulstorm is an even worse map but more balanced without rage and the big bonuses being behind strongholds>Sisters of battle are very fun but I have only done 2 storngholds so far >haven't played dark eldarHow are DoW2? Does it have a real campaign or more glorified skirmishes where only strongholds count as missions which are all kinds easy just tedious
I know Skitarii just released but I'm already wondering what the next dlc class will be and if they're going to continue the story.
Post your favourite >Space Marine Chapter>Guard Regiment >Chaos Legion/Warband>Ork Clan >Necron Dynasty >Eldar Craftworld
>>743758267DoW II is a RTT instead of an RTS, so if you enjoyed the basebuilding aspect of DoW, you're going to be sorely disappointed.
>>743758361For me, it's the Fire Lords
90s 40k figurines are the goofiest things ever
Still no Titanicus simulator where you are the princeps.
>>743758935Titanfall?
>>743758437Fucking why? That's lame. Is it at least classic mission structure rather than galactic conquest?
>>743759140My favorite FPS game but too fast-paced for Titanicus. Each Titan has command crew and maintenance teams inside the torso, with soldiers to fight off possible boarders.
>>743758267DoW2 singleplayer is basically Diablo, but you control 4 units instead of 1Multi/skirmish is microintesive RTTThere is a bigger focus on singleplayer than in DoW1 admittedly. You have big customization of your squads and a lot of characters and dialogue.Chaos Rising and Retribution missions are more unique than base DoW2.It's a very different game
>>743759398Weird. What an interesting choice. Glad to see it actually has fleshed out single player at least the last 2 expansion for DoW 1 have not been horribly interesting outside playing with the new factions kits
>>743759298Kind of. It has classic campaign but you only get a handful of squads that you use every time and some of the maps are repeated. People who love Company of Heroes loved DoW2 but I could never get into it.
>>743759298Relic always hated base building, which is why their RTS games have very simplified base building compared to other RTS. DoW2 followed this to it's ultimate point, removal of this feature and instead focusing on units, positioning and abilities
>>743759518>>743759530If it's more like company of heroes that's good I fucking love company of heroes. Calling the game "basically Diablo" is what worried me Gonna miss big giant battles though Why does 3 make everyone assmad? I heard the launch was shite but outside of that how is it now?
>>7437597833 is basically a moba
>>743760081Gross. Do nids have a campaign at least?
>>743758361>space marinesBlood Ravens>guardSteel Legion >Chaos Black Legion >ORK the red one because they go faster>Necronidk>EldarBiel Tan
>>743760268They aren't in 3 at all
>>743760379Fucking SKIPI'll try out rogue trader after I'm done with kingmaker I guess
>>743758137Because the way GW did it still still allowed people wield their C'tan models they bought and painted you fucking retard. Instead of squatting the models entirely from the game, they merely changed their lore a bit. All things considered it was an elegant solution that gave the necrons desperately needed customization options and depth in their lore while still retaining the previous elements of their lore in a more overall setting compatible and sensible form.
>>743759783Skirmish is more like CoH. But Singleplayer is more like Diablo. You will see. You basically have 6 unique, premade characters in it, 7 in Chaos Rising, then 4 in Retribution (but all factions are playable, not only Marines), but you can use generic units again in addition to uniques. Those unique characters are in squads accompanied by units. You loot gear and weapons and level up those Characters. You slaughter your way through the map essentially in those singleplayer missions.
>>743759783It removed everything great about dawn of war to me. we want from having great VA to medicore ones, sync kills to having noone at all, giving each squad different weapons to make them versatile to just a upgrade that gives everyone plasma etc. the titan units looked great but i am not gonna play moba dressed in a dow skin with jumping terminators
Anyone play the >Ultimate Exterminatus mod for Dawn of War 2 Chaos RisingIt seems to be considerably more in depth than the base version of the campaign and I'm trying to figure out if I should keep my imported spec'd marines or respec or what. It does let you use all you units at a time though, has a fuckload more types of weapons and gear, and more.
>>743758361>Space Marine ChapterCrimson Fists>Guard RegimentValhallan Ice Warriors >Chaos Legion/WarbandEmperors Children>Ork ClanBlood Axes>Necron Dynasty Blood Axes>Eldar CraftworldUlthwé
>>743729764they announced DOWIV? is there hype?
>Eldar would be a cool edition to this game>"ACTUALLY Eldar would never do anything but job and die"Why can't lorefags just let me have fun?
>>743741695This picture goes very hard. can i save it
>>743731804Never. 40k Lore isn't that good and filled with retcons and plot holes.
>>743733709>>Repeat 3 times til the reputation of the studio is in tattersare you implying that CA and fatshart previously had good reputations?
>>743761953What retard lorefags have you encountered? Eldar can absolutely destroy if they put their minds to it.
>>743735687nids are literally just fucking animals, there is absolutely nothing interesting about themyou can't even get nid stories from their perspective, it has to be told from the side they're attacking because otherwise it'd just be>kill kill kill kill>eat eat eat eatfor 400 pagesthey are also actively making the setting worse by being le infinite horde extragalactic threat you literally cannot defeat in a meaningful way
>>743729764Really looking forward to DoW4, I loved DoW2 Retribution and got so much playtime out of the last stand mode (because I'm shit at competitive RTS, so that's where my multiplayer time went), I'm really glad they announced a new last stand is coming at launch, I just hope they have enough characters for the mode, I would be disappointed if it's just 4 from the campaign factions, I'm sure there's some enemy assets they have hidden away that they can use to fill out the roster (like a hidden chaos or xenos race that isn't playable in the campaign but just shows up for a mission)Also I recently listened to The Infinite and The Divine and The Twice Dead King duology, so I'm a bit more knowledgeable on Necrons and interested in trying them out in the campaign
>>743760638>squattingDoes this term exist because of the original squats who were removed? I've always been afraid to ask and seem dumb
>>743762776Yeah, mentioning squats used on the GW forums got you banned and the thread deleted. If you asked about them at events you would be removed by security.
>>743762765I really REALLY like that Dawn of War 4 has a traditional rts campaign for each faction, a dark crusade esque strategy mode, and last stand. The devs included everything for everyone
>>743762740Providing a simple threat that any of the other factions can be pitted against (and therefore providing a backdrop for stories for those factions), with implications of a greater intelligence behind it all is perfectly fine. Add to that the different strains and they're even allowing for player expression.
>>743762740They're a shittier version of the orks that lack the charm and personality, completely unnecessaryMaybe if they weren't>le infinite horde extragalactic threatand just spacebugs that need swatting now and then, they wouldn't be so lame and gay
>>743762541Mostly the ones shooting down an Eldar character in Darktide
>>743758361>Space Marine ChapterWhite Scars>Guard RegimentDeath Korps of Krieg>Chaos Legion/WarbandWorld Eaters>Ork ClanKult of Speed>Necron DynastyNihilakh>Eldar CraftworldThey're all gay don't care
>>743755628everyone has gunsmelee is only for weirdo factions, the overwhelming majority of the roster will consist of ranged units which is just not how TW games have functioned up to this pointthe fronts are also huge, they picked a good setting for the game, but most wars in 40k take place on the scale of numerous star systems, not just a single planet it is also extremely rare for more than 2-3 factions to show up to the party at once
im the only person who likes primaris
>>743762967>Providing a simple threat that any of the other factions can be pitted againstWe have a race for that: orks. Orks fight everything, including other orks. If you want a different endless horde faction, you can always pick daemons since the warp infinitely spawns them.
>>743757797Dude Sex: Inquisition Edition
>>743763040Ew, my condolances>>743755628to me 40k would work best as a grand strategy game where you can optionally zoom in to a RTS battle for space/planet fights>>743763189they're okay
>>743763213>There can only be one flavor of horde in a settingBut several flavors of space elf are fine?
I feel like I'm the only Darktide player who didn't give their Ogryn hair or eyebrows and used the bully voice.
>>743763486Yes you are a snowflake
>>743758361>Space Marine ChapterExorcists are my boys >Guard RegimentValhallans for real regiments or Tempestus Scions if they count>Chaos Legion/WarbandCrimson Slaughter for impeccable fashion>Ork ClanDeathskulls, specifically the meks and scrappers>Necron DynastySautekh>Eldar CraftworldCraftworlds are lame but Dark Eldar are cool so I'll pick Kabal of the Last Hatred
>>743757797A Thief-like game where you play as Trazyn and steal or capture progressively more difficult and bizarre items, treasures, and entitiesOther necrons might try to fuck with your plans. You can cheese a little with advanced necron tech but for harder levels this is less and less insta-win
>>743763534The hair is more snowflake for an Ogryn honestly.
>>743761609>Blood Axes for NecronsHa, fuck. Nihilakh
>>743763389You can have as many flavors as you want as long as they're good. Nids are boring animals that don't deserve a spot amongst real factions like orks, humans, eldar, chaos, etc. Even the T'au have more going on. Sure, there might eventually be some fleshing out of the nid hivemind, but they've only had a couple decades to do that and have not done so in any way. Until that happens, they're a boring nothing faction that practically needs a rewrite. My #1 thing is just make it clear that they haven't eaten like 200 galaxies or some shit; that the nids we have are 60%+ of the nids that exist. Them being totally infinite makes them less interesting.
>>743763610Honestly doing something others aren't doing is snowflake behavior
>>743757924It's too bad Rebellion is too deep in their WWII psychosis to ever set a SE game in any other era or setting.
>>743763765If people won't make lore accurate Ogryns then that's their problem.
>>743757797Battlefield 40k>Spess Mehreens with their classic and Primaris grav vehicles>Imperial Guard with summonable different flavours of Baneblades>Eldar with their gay pointy grav vehicles>Chaos Space Marines with their classic and now pointy vehicles
>>743755062They talk in plain english in the game, Autismus Maximus. Nobody ever cares whether its low gothic or what "in universe".
>>743763763>A galaxy devouring entity that presents itself as a swarming mass of adaptable saurian beasts is not interestingIt sure as hell is more interesting than mushroom men with cockney accents.
>>743763818Seems like you're the only one with a problem
>>743763934>nids are more interesting than orksyou have brain problems
>>743760371>Blood Ravens since they're loyalist Thousand Suns and way cooler. I'd pick them regardless of the memes, sorry its not a more obscure chapter known for their brutality and disregard for the codex>Kasrkins have the best helmets>Iron Warriors, they're the defacto autism legion>Bad Moons, crit damage is cool>any dynasty without redditor figureheads>Biel Tan, hit and run tactics are gay
I'm most excited for Dark Heresy. I'm avoiding info from the Beta and will be doing a Grim Darkness run for my first blind playthrough.
>>743763851Low gothic is plain englishAny novel that uses wordplay in-universe confirms as much. See for example Penitent from Bequin novels in which a characters misunderstand plain french words for similar sounding english ones. The french words are treated as an ancient terran language while the english ones are simply their common "gothic" language
>>743764093The concept of nids is more interesting than the concept of orks, yes. Orks are of course more "interesting" on an individual level. But the thing is that one shouldn't even consider Nids a faction of individuals but one entity that presents itself through a multitude.GW could definitely do more with the hivemind, but just the implication of there existing something so impossibly beyond even the chaos gods is in itself a titillating prospect, and I feel like expanding on that could lessen the sheer awe of it all.
>>743731804The eye of terror book was pretty funI liked how the main reason humanity dominated the galaxy was entirely down to the Astronomicon letting them do longer warp jumpsIt's depiction the imperial world as bland ultra no-fun allowed planets, was a nice take, and it was funny how the street punks who attack the protagonist were seen as rebellious for not wearing competently gray clothing.There are a big coincidences in the book, some happening thousands of years ago, make you think something must be manipulating events to the outcome we get, but you've got no concentrate answer if it's the Emperor or one of the chaos goods, since they all arguably have a motive to bring about the final outcome. The depictions of the eye of terror, where deamons act like minor gods toying with entire planets of slaves, and areas have their own strange gimmicks and rules, like one planet where water acted like air to outsiders, was really cool. Chaos was still evil but it wasn't just one dimensional murder-rape, with lot's of different flavors. Thinking about it could make for a good FTL style rouge-like
>>743730083>>743732056If the Eldar are allowed to be split into "the good ones" and "the evil ones" then the Necrons should also have been allowed to have different internal factions.1. Nu-crons who are Tomb Kings in space that overthrew the C'Tan. They want to reclaim what was lost and rebuild their old empire.2. Broken C'Tan shards that still reign over their enslaved necron. Free, but insane. They want to reunite with their lost shards and eventually enslave/wipe out all life in the galaxy.3. Old-crons who are just terminators that are still on kill mode from the War in Heaven. They mindlessly exterminate everything in their way while looking for Eldar and Orks.
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>>743733306I don't really think GW likes Slaanesh at all because Slaanesh is really hard to understand unless you are into the lore. For casuals, Slaanesh appears to just be SEX SEX SEX but that isn't what Slaanesh really is. Also I legitimately think GW hates the Emperor's Children>Fulgrim comes back>he does absolutely nothing and his book sucks>Emperor's Children gets a full codex and model like revamp>they're basically just discount World Eaters and are extremely unpopularamazing work GW
>>743765839Slaanesh (and specifically as it relates to Emperor's Children) used to be the God of Sex, Drugs, and Rock & Roll and then they kind of decided two of those needed to be downplayed heavily to make it more marketable and left them just bland generic "perfectionists".
>>743763040The issue with Eldar character in Darktide is that it is very difficult to even try to excuse why Eldar would risk their lives to save Atoma and work in some suicide squads with filthy mon'keigh. I'd much rather have an actual eldar focused game instead. It stretches suspension of disbelief for Eldar to join the rejects in Darktide.
>>743765839>Slaanesh appears to just be SEX SEX SEX I mean it pretty much was until they sanitized it. Slaanesh was sex and drugs and rock n roll.
>>743767262what is it now?
>>743768095Excess in all forms. Slaanesh is still the god of sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll, but it is also the god of couples that are so annoyingly in love with each other that everyone else hates them for it.
>>743763609There would need to be a button where you can pass time more quickly to wait for guards to move. Something like passing one year a second should work.
>>743763851>They talk in plain English in the gameOr French, German, Spanish, Russian, Chinese, Japanese or Korean instead. Because game is simply translated to us players so we understand it. Not understanding is autistic
>>743732056>The nucrons are infinitely better than...Stopped reading there.You are wrong.
>>743764665Jesus christ 4chan is full of secondaries. NEWCRONS HAVE HAD ALL OF THAT SINCE THE RETON YOU FUCKING IDIOT! Entire tomb worlds where the central AI deleted the memory and personality of its Necrons to use them as soldiers to expand its own influence have been around since day 1. C'tan shards pulling strings and taking control of tombs happens regularly, Necrons drop everything to team up and jump them if they find out about it since they take C'tan more seriously anything. They have had all of this since the beginnging, and of all those concepts the bickering politics and regretful immortals were by far the most popular of all the concepts, hence why they keep getting books and focus.
what happened to that twisted metal but with orks game? did it ever come out?
>>743769492Anon, you can't expect people to actually read the fluff. It is hard enough getting people to read the fucking rules half the time.
>>743769571speedfreaks came out three years ago, anon
>>743730083Reddit franchise
>>743748158I always asked myself how a life of an average joe would look like.
>>743769628damn was it any good?
>>743768275Yeah, all the old stuff is technically still there in the lore they just try not to draw any attention to it. Similar to how the Slaanesh-adjacent Dark Eldar do a bunch of horrid shit that is only barely even alluded to and is just never described anymore and just vaguely described as "torture".
>>743769904I've got too many 40k/warhammer games to play as it is.Seems like it has decent reviews however.
>>743769492This. Shit, the most popular division among the necrons is one faction wanting to regain organic bodies again vs one that thinks staying machines is the way to go. In Orikan's case, it goes even further because he wants to ascend into a being of pure energy (permanently, instead of his limited bursts of super saiyan power).
Can a battle suit be cute?
>>743729764Fuck nucrons.Fuck the game.Not buying.Not pirating.
I'm starting the think Necron hate are imperialfags that want them to be the center of the attention while everything else is a mindless hoard enemy to be taken down.
>>743729764>>tw 40k looks great.>>dawn of war 4 is shaping up nice. New necron trailer gives it some hope.And other lies gays wokeslop marketers will tell you
>>743738035>Half of 40k "fans" have no models. They have no books. They own no codicesHoly based, I kneel. Trannytop niggers need to kill themselves>>743737924>>743737948>>743739803>>743740090>>743740378>>743752321>>743753108>>743740998>>743752042Holy tranigger melty
>>743769904Not really. It's okay, but there's nothing special at all about it that will keep you hooked. The multiplayer is dead and there is no single player campaign, so it's just you vs bots.
>>743737449I don't really mind either way in regards to necrons being quiet or having personalities, but the necrons beating the c'tan and busting them up into shards is a good thing, and it's good explicitly because they have models.Imagine being a fucking god older than time itself, who isn't shafted by needing sacrifices and believers to have a form and power like Chaos gods do, and you fuck off into the field of battle to show off your might only to get merked by a gretchin that got lucky. How fucking embarrassing is that? At least as c'tan shards you could always handwave it as them not being at their full power.
