Time to optimize your games so it can be run on HDD, Developers......
>using objectively shitty HDDs!>in the year 2026!Kek!Only intelligent patricians use only SSDs!
Poorfag
>>743730937>I welcome 4 minute load screens in my gamesIt must suck being third world
>>743730937Fuck off poorfag, a 1TB nvme drive is like 100 bucks.
haha funny joke they're also increasing HDD prices arbitrarily too
>>743731059>>743731063Check again. SSD costs like $1000
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>>743731210>SATA>ChinkshitLol
>>743731319You laugh but with the way things are headed Chinesium is the future unless you're fine with owning nothing.
>>743731210>litwho chinesium brand that will break in 3 months1-800-COMEONNOW
>>743731386I want to own my ssd, not rent
>>743731319>talks about SSD>posts SSD>"ha ha you posted an SSD"
>>743731448>1TB nvme drivehmm
>>743731448Yes. HDD is better value now
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>>743731441Then you better get used to the chink shit. One day it'll be black market chink shit and that's when we'll truly be in hell.
>>743731480is this out of your price bracket?
>>743731507I rather buy a 4tb HDD than this slow ass shit
>>743731210>550mb/s>up toMarginally faster than a RAID 0 with two HDDs>equivalent of $133Passed right the fuck up
>>743731578>SSDs are $1000>posts image that SSDs don't cost $1000>"that SSD isn't fast enough" neither is a HDD
>>743731483>Decent HDDs also basically quadrupled in priceIt's just not fair.
>>743731210You may as well flush your money down the toilet
My chinese NVME is already dying after 2 years of barely any activity /b/ros..
>>743730937Just buy chink nvme 250gb for one game at a time
>>743730937I have three 1tb SSDs so I have no problems with storage. But since I want to download as many old console roms as possible then yeah I have a problem I need some huge hdd or rven better nas server with dozens of drives and it costs tons of money.
>>743732409You dont need SSD up to PS3 Games. Is just devs nowadays cant optimize for shit
>>743732082Mine is 3 years old and still fine, while crucial SSDs (sata) died two times for me in span of 8 years, so I replaced it with 1tb goodram. Silicon lottery bro. I also have samsung m2 SSDs and it's fine after almost 2 years. I'm glad I got them before mafia fucked up prices.
>>743730937The jump from HDD to SSD is too big to go back. We went from 200-300MB/s to 5GB/s (PS5) and this is the bare minimum now. Nowadays any gen4 SSD you buy it's 7GB/s and 15GB/s for gen5 but at this point is a bit overkill, but modern games do rely heavily on SSD speeds since every game nowadays is an open world game using texture streaming.
>>743732462Yeah I know. Those games won't utilize SSDs speeds anyway. But even hdds are expensive and you also want some backup so it's double in price.
>>743731721more like double
If GTA 4 and Just Cause 2/3 can run on HDD you dont need an SSDDevs just cant code nowdays
>>743730937Remember THIS ?
the 256gb samsung ssd i bought in 2015 still werks
>>743731023>>using objectively shitty HDDs!How are they shitty when you can put it on a shelf for a decade or two and it still reads and writes perfectly when you plug it back in? I've got an 80GB IDE HDD from 2003 that still works perfectly in 2026 (it's in my softmodded Xbox).
>>743731210If you can't afford Samsung, then why bother.
>>743732709Yeah ignored it completely and got separate both SSD and hdd
I'm at crisis levels and need more space NOW(E:\ is failing so it doesn't count)
>>743731721You should have had a stockpile of mechanical hard-drives from years ago already though? Why do you suddenly need to store data only now that prices have spiked?
>>743732856Dude is obsessed with his dolphin porn. Do you work for NASA?
>>743732501>The jump from HDD to SSD is too big to go back.Cope, even PS4 games were running off a regular 2.5" HDD and they still hold up against PS5 games running on NVMe SSDs.
>>743732738how's its health?
>>743732909No I work for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, they've got better dolphin porn than NASA
>>743730937What's the point when Windows 10 and 11 are terribly fucking slow when running from an HDD?
>>743732709Weren't they called "fusion" drives? I never had one but I had a WD Raptor years ago that claimed to spin at 10,000 RPM.
>>743731578No noticeable difference in load times between NVME and SATA SSD, I've tested it with a 15GB/s drive. I run all my games off a 4TB SATA instead of my 4TB 15GB/s NVME which I reserve for AI stuff.
>>743732738I shucked a 250GB Toshiba SSD from a 2011 iMac and it still works perfectly.
I really need to back up my shit. I have like 15 years of pictures on a 2TB seagate hdd and a macbook I don’t use.
>>743732082my samsung 970 pro 250gb that I got when they first came out is still fine after 8 years of daily use.
>>743732972werks fine, have it as an OS drive in this machine. I also have an ancient ocz drive on my craptop that practically has 0 mileage.
>>743731023>>743730937I still don't get why Windows 10/11 don't run fine on HDD. Windows 7 worked flawlessly on HDD and there is nothing windows 10/11 does that Windows 7 cant so why TF does it run so much worse
I dont buy digital games
I basically ran out of space on mine because I have like 240GB worth of porn, and I don't wanna delete it because 200GB of that is JAV and some of it is hard to get nowadays.
>>743733549People forgot that adding unused size on your SSD increase the lifespan.
>>743730937Just get a better job poorscumThis is just a small price to pay for massive progress
>>743732082Retard here, which part here says that it's dying?
>>743733889it isn't.
>>743733637Because your memory is fooling you. I remember booting up my old 7 machine and then going to bathroom etc. because the boot would take at least a minute. And if I happened to log out at Dalaran the last night, then it's another walk around the house for me.
>>743733637>Windows 7 worked flawlessly on HDDThe day i got an SSD was fucking amazing. I went from my computer taking multiple minutes t boot and being slow as fuck for the first 20 minutes to being able to use it at full speed within 10 seconds after starting it.
>>743730937Time to get a job champ.
>>743733848>>743734183I do. I got $500 / month
>>743734309Then stop crying luddite
>>743734309A real job, food delivery on bike is not a job.
>>743733637What a retarded fucking ape full of depression you are.Swapping from 8 to 10 was such a massive upgrade for booting and loading times and swapping to SSD after also was another noticable upgrade.Fucking retard.
>>743734372>>743734337Uh no ? Im a hardware maintainer at some XXX company
>500GB SATA SSD for OS>4TB SATA SSD for Bulk Storage (Music, Movies, etc)>2TB NVME SSD for Steam>1TB NVME SSD for Non-Steam>1TB HDD for...whatever the fuck else. Think it's installers and Stable Diffusion outputs rn, plus chat logs.I think I'm good.
>>743734534Is there any point in using separate SSD for OS when most of the storages in your system are SSD anyway?
>>743734591NTA, but if you don't want your system to slow down to a crawl while you're installing a game or something, it should always be on a separate drive
>>743734309you make $500 a month? bro...
>>743734591Separate drives for different things/libraries make brain feel good.
>>743734630Installing or downloading something isn't going to make any noticeable changes in speed on modern SSD. Not that I've ever noticed it.
>>743732856I hope you got that shit backed up
>>743734758General rule of thumb is like to leave 10-20% of your SSD free to maximize performance. Otherwise you risk not having enough space for overprovisioning and wear leveling.
>>743734962Yes I do like to do that because I don't like the bar in windows turning red,but that is also more of a myth nowadays because SSDs have become better and don't need nearly as much free space as they used to in the early days.
>>743734646Thats a lot right ?
>>743734943Backups are just capacity that you could be using for other things
>>743734534>4TB SATA SSD for Bulk Storage>StorageWhat a waste. Use this for AI instead.
>>743735140I'm sure you'll be thinking that when one of your HDDs die
this is what i get for waiting to scrape and hoard disturbing fetish art until after seeing hundreds of accounts vanish over the years
>>743734073>>743734175>>743734465retards who installed bloatware toolbars, antiviruses and shit and never defragmentedwindows 7 on hdd is up in a few seconds
>>743733637>W7 worked fine on HDDLol no.I used w7 for a long time and used it with am4 mobo that supported m.2. Later on I got myself one of these SSDs and cloned my boot partition to it. The system boot times changed drastically.
>>743730937I wanted this to happen.That's why I spent the last years making AI porn 24/7the great flushing of poorfags
>>743731023>T: tech illiteral retard who doesnt know anything about storage spaceIts used for things other than playing your manchild videogame toys
>>743735306>Its used for things other than playing your manchild videogame toysnta but you're on /v/. so good job insulting yourself?
>>743735285Without poorfags who the fuck gonna clean your ferraris ??
>>743730937WD wants to make HDDs boasting SSD speeds.
>>743735431You can never get the same kind of random IOPS performance on an HDD. It's impossible. Throughput is fine, but not very important except for specific tasks.
>>743733637Either retarded zoomer larping as a boomer or literal alzheimers grandpa
Optane was the future we were promised and it was snatched away.
>>743734646Never underestimate the power of shitty Brazillian currency
>>743735553Because it was impossible to make cheap.
>>743735512It still gives you massive advantage and would make shit like "SSD recommend" in game specs not really matter anymore. Operations on hundreds of little files is just as specific as moving few tb large files. Only open world games ever made my HDDs choke. The only software that I found near impossible to use on HDD was installing private monero wallet, and using hydrus.
>>743731403I've had a Fanxiang Sata SSD for 3+ years and the shit still works. It's never given me problems, either.
>>743732082>3% in two years It's Kirkover
>>743735736Try playing deus ex mankind divided on a HDD. Enjoy 5 minute load times when jumping on the train. Meanwhile on any old sata SSD:
>>743735736>would make shit like "SSD recommend" in game specs not really matter anymore.You definitely need high random read performance to run a modern open world game. Loading assets in an HDD would be limited to the spinning of the disk and the movement of the head. Way too slow, would lead to constant stutter.
>>743732082How much longer do I got /v/ros?
>>743732740It reads and works, but bitrot is real.I've pulled such a drive full of anime recently and at least 5% of episodes reach only 97 to 99% integrity.Almost everything had a backup elsewhere thanksfully.
>>743731578Delusional. No amount of RAID0 will eliminate the seek times, not it will ever have as many operations per second.
>>743735169Too many write cycles. That's why all my SD outputs go on the spinning rust drive.Which is actually a positively ancient Spinpoint F3 from like, three computer builds ago. Still going strong, they don't make 'em like they used to anymore...
>>743735904I've had my Samsung 850 since 2016 or 2017. It's currently at 92% health.
>>743735904These numbers are often meaningless. Had two of my Samsung 970 just die all of sudden. Got warranty on both, but still.
>>743733718I'm seeding 17TB of JAVs right now, if you torrent that shit I'll make sure it's always available.
>>743733718Pretty sure you can buy 1TB of chinese cloud storage for pennies.
>>743735972I have my spinpoint F3 still in use as well. bought it in 2011
It is a real shame the consumer space stuck with sata instead of embracing sas.
>>743736786NVMe was supposed to be the future, which I never understood and that would have been possible seeing how even today CPUs are starved of PCIe lanes and cheaper chipsets don't have that many either. Very strange. There's also the fact that they are taking their sweet ass fucking time making the NVMe spec compatible with HDDs. This was or still is in development but so far I don't think there's a single consumer HDD that works.
>>743737227NVME is the future the problem is Windows mainly. NTFS is a dinosaur filesystem and stornvme.sys is from the Windows Vista era. They bottleneck all NVME drives.
>>743731526I bought this exact one last year it was less than half that price, wasnt on sale either.
>>743737274>NVME is the future the problem is Windows mainlyMicrosoft already fixed that problem in Windows Server so it's a matter of time before it reaches Windows 11 (maybe we'll have to wait for 12).But still it doesn't matter. We don't have enough PCIe lanes nor m.2 slots. My board has 6 SATA ports. It has only two m.2 slots. What am I supposed to do with this? I can build a RAID10 using HDDs and have storage for days.Now imagine if instead of SATA we were using SAS. Imagine with 6 SAS ports how fast mass storage could be.
>>7437312101TB only? Good luck playing "modern games" and only being able to install only a few.
>>743738062>My board has 6 SATA portsYour next one will have 2 lmao. my AM4 board has 8 and by hook or by crook i'm going to get 8 sata ports when I do the next platform upgrade, even if I have to delve into HBAs
>>743738062My mobo has 4 nvme slots
>>743731526That's over 3 times what I paid last year. 78aud is about 40gbp.
>>743732082>AoiHoly fucking faggot
>>743732082What's wrong here? The endurance rating of that SSD is 640TBW. You have written nearly 19TB which is about 3% of its endurance. Everything is fine.
so should I just start raiding the 500GB SSD's from my local savers?
>>743735212The same day Steam goes public and we're all forced to do cloud gaming and eat bugs.
>>74373304910k and 15k were common in SCSI models waybackwhen.
>>743732082>156 unsafe shutdowns and 705 power ons in less than a year and a halfwtf are you doing
>>743730937>Falling for this lieYou do know you can just change the ue5 config to stop texture streaming right? You do know that yeah? And it makes all games run better as it preloads everything into ram rather than just fetching small chunks. This assumes you are not a smelly brown tho and actually have a 16gb+ gpu. The HDD optimise isn't a thing. You are just retarded.
>>743737227Only intelaviv and their partners jew you out of pcie lanes lol why do you think everyone uses AMD CPUs now?
>>743736049samsung doesn't honor the returns anymore, they will give you a partial ammount but no actual SSD. I had a 512gb Evo SD card die on me and they only offered what I paid for it back when I bought it for $35
>>7437359043 years ago this said 60 days left
>>74374013424 lanes is not enough once the chipset takes its chunk.
>>743731526i bought a 2TB one (better than the kingston), barely used (like 100gb written total), for half that price in januarywhat can i say, if there is a thread to brag about such things, this is it
>>743733637Found the zoomer larping as a boomerI remember W7 taking more than 1 minute to completely boot with an HDD, meanwhile a NVME can boot up my W10 in like 10 seconds
>>743732972if u r running statistics, I got a 128gb Samsung from 2016, constantly used, that's at 88% also a bottom-tier 256gb WD from 2018 that has been used&abused (24TB written) and is still at 76%
>>743731023I had 3 SSDs that died and started reporting themselves as 0 bytes large (samsung, adata and patriot) and one that started returning FF'd out 4k sections on reads (kingston). Not to mention that they lose data when left unpowered. (Including the controller firmware). All my old phones in the drawer died that way. I reflashed one but the other one didn't respond to writes anymore.
>>743738062>My board has 6 SATA portsI wish it wasn't such a pain in the ass to find those. I got a new mobo 2-3 years ago and it was already annoying to find one back then, so it's probably going to be way worse in a few years when I'll need to replace it again.
>>743741368>All my old phones in the drawer died that waymy ipod nano 6th gen died this wayrest in peace
>>743738221>>743742410There's no point fixating on internal storage and limiting your build options, just get (or build) a separate NAS, it's easier to swap in new drives when your old ones get full and any difference in speed won't be significant
>>743742591Having to constantly swap out shit whenever you want to play a specific game or something sounds annoying as hell.
>>743730937>so it can be run on HDDlet's see those HDD prices thenthe ultimate goal here is for you to own nothing and just stream your games btw
>>743743172Its not as bad as SSD which got quadrupled or even 6x. HDD is still 1.5 to 2x more expensive than it should
>>743743172>tfw didn't buy one in february cause they got too expensive and decided to wait>mfw i have no face for this
>>743743172Don't feel bad, bros! Whenever you see these price increases and feel depressed, remember that it's a small price we all have to pay so a kid in India can enjoy watching AI videos on TikTok while shitting in the street.
>>743731210I've owned that brand. It started off great, but after 5 months the read/write speed was around 3kbps
>bought 64gb (admittedly ddr4) just before price hike>bought a 4TB HDD to store all my pirated games on before price hike>built an entire pc for a friend just as gpu prices crashed last timeI seem to be fairly deft at getting in moments before disaster so i'm my luck holds for my next purchase whatever it might be.
>>743732856>he didn't boughted the hdds before the price hike
My main issue with huge HDDs is you need to buy them in pairs - if you actually have 20tb (or more) of data to store then you can't afford to lose it so you need redundancy.
hardware autists should all be hangedNOOOOO IT'S 59FPS INSTEAD OF 60 AND THE LOADING TIME TOOK 2 SECONDS LITERALLY UNPLAYABLEkill yourself
Is it too late for me to buy a couple ssds to weather the storm?
my 4tb ssd i bought for 300 in 2022 costs new 900-1000 dollars now
