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Just got a Switch 2 with no games, how do I into Pikmin and why does everyone hate 3 and 4
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Play them in numerical order.
>Why do people hate 3+4
To understand, play them in numerical order.
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>>743737987
3 is too short and 4 is too easy. i still think they are decent games though
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No one hates 3 or 4 except for people who hate everything anyway. I played Pikmin 3 first on Wii U, Pikmin 3 Deluxe is a fine way to get into the series and will probably give you the best taste of a traditional Pikmin experience. Pikmin 4 tries to broaden the demographics with more narrative and adventure elements, it's a bit of a different flavor but still good. I haven't done a playthrough with the new hard difficulty and ability to disable auto locking but Pikmin 4 has likely improved with updates.
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>>743738353
I hated 4.
I got a refund for it.
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>>743738353
Yeah I heard the fixed 4 with an update but no one really talks about it over hating on the dog
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>>743737987
>why does everyone hate 3 and 4
3 is too easy and a massive step down from 2 (which was already too casual and a step down from 1 at least in terms of challenge with its infini time) and therefore is boring and lame
4 is fine, its also too easy but only by choice, you dont have to abuse the dog or ever upgrade it, same way you can play all of DK Bananza on 3HP and its suddenly quite hard. 4 is only too easy if you make it too easy, which is a personal player issue.

1 has soul, does what it sets out to do, you WILL deal with the 30 day time limit and you WILL deal with failure if that happens, but in the end you have a great experience and memory when you succeed.
2 has soul but casualised hard for all the whiny bitches who didnt like "muh pressure" of 1, there is no losing in P2.
3 is fun and all but being so braindead easy really damages the game, you will never fail as the bar is so low a toddler will comfortably succeed. Now, it is still charming, but it lacks soul or grit.
4 is much like 3 but I think its refined enough to be better overall, just, dont break your own game with the OP upgrades.

also play 1/2 on wii, the pointer controls are king, 3 play on wii U, gamepad actually works well for it, 4 is stuck with controller like controls.
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>>743739472
are the gyro controls not as good for the switch?
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>>743739472
Are you describing Yoshi games?
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>>743737987
There's no reason not to play them in order. Great games.
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>>743747116
But the old graphics, ouuuh gives me the ick :/
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>>743747760
There's the new version of 1 and 2, no doubt has less soul than the originals but if you just care about graphics they're for you.
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>>743737987
>why does everyone hate 3
What?!
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The Switch versions are censored for some reason, I recommend emulating Squared for 1 and raw-dog 2, i personally dislike 3 because it's so linear and handholdy, and 4 is just the series fully babified.
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3 is my favourite one
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>>743737987
3 was the last good Pikmin game
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>>743737987
3>1>4>2
2 fags are mentally ill. It's a good game tho.
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>>743752645
bait (in case people didn't notice)
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>>743752645
I'd swap 2 and 4. If 4 was just the Dandori challenges and Olimar stuff I'd play it again in a heartbeat, but I don't want to play through the empty overworld areas or night stages ever again.
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3 is my favorite and since Zoomers are impatient babies, I tell them to start with 4 so they can be eased into kino
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>>743737987
3 is fine just on the easy side, 4 isnt a pikmin game its actually a dog game
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>>743753075
What empty overworld areas? I enjoyed the game a lot self imposing myself a 3 day limit to 100% every zone. The night stages are a waste of time, I agree.
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>>743739298
https://youtu.be/68iErVZRzt0?si=aKCIpTCs5OkeBnL2

Best update coverage.
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>>743739472
>to be better overall,
no
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do physical copies of 3 Deluxe no longer exist?
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>>743753075
4 added NG+ in a patch which lets you keep Oatchi upgrades so you only need to do 2 night levels. One for Bernard and another for Olimar.
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>>743753265
Enemies never respawn in overworld sections, which makes going back through them to mop up missed caves or treasures feel super dull.
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>>743753331
Mine is still there.
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>>743739472
>its also too easy but only by choice
I made the entire first four zones of the games with only 20 pikmin and two upgrades for Oatchi (the multi-task ones) and the game was still a joke to play. Not to mention this argument is garbage because players will always go for the path of least resistance if given the option and are not interested in self-imposed challenges.
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>>743753483
>Not to mention this argument is garbage because players will always go for the path of least resistance if given the option and are not interested in self-imposed challenges.
especially true for the first playthrough of games when you have no idea if a challenge might actually pop up.
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>>743737987
because they casualized the fuck out of an already easy series, plus 4 has women and niggers in it
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>>743737987
As the first reply says, play them in numerical order. But I'd recommend to play Pikmin and 2 either on Gamecube or Wii, Pikmin 3 on Wii U and Pikmin 4 on Switch. The modern re-releases of 1 and 2 have their odd but subtle changes while 3 Deluxe essentially rebalances the difficulty with QoL and changes to enemy health.
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>>743753605
If anything, a second playthrough of Pikmin 4 only makes it worse in retrospect because you realize how pointless almost everything is in a game flooded with conveniences and resources. I still remember only using winged Pikmin once for single treasure just due to how useless they were in general at that point.
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>>743753331
1+2 and 3 aare out of print
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>>743737987
Pikmin 4's olimar part would be the best pikmin game if it was longer
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>>743753958
Rocks and Wings were blatantly added in at the second second to have every type. Oatchi and Moss instantly kill the one Rock Pikmin enemy and there's like 3 Crystal walls in the entire game.
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>>743755702
Olimar's part is kino because it's short.
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>>743737987
Start from the beginning. Not for story reasons, but Pikmin 1 teaches the fundamentals of Dandori in a way Pikmin 2-4 simply cannot.
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>>743756647
At least rock pikmin are useful for the cave they're introduced in, winged pikmin can't fly over a bit of fire.
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>>743739472
>2 (which was already too casual and a step down from 1 at least in terms of challenge with its infini time)
this is always the stupidest argument. 1 is not hard. the time limit does not matter. even as a stupid child I could finish it with several days to spare. the time limit is a literal non issue unless you're brand new to the basic concept of an rts



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