Will VNs ever make a comeback? As a platform they're superior way to present a story since you can combine many different art forms into one packet, however, nobody fucking cares anymore
Only people who don't read consider VNs dead.
>>743739493No. They had their lunch eaten by gacha trash.The format is just not profitable anymore.
>>743739493umineko's novel format was the perfect presentation for VNs, unfortunately most VNs use the inferior lower text box approach which is retarded, even ryushiki has degraded in his approach with the retarded shaded cylinder in ciconia, which messes with the eyes and leads to a worse reading experience
>>743739493Once gachas collapse. Same as most other things this industry associates with otaku.
EOP thread, disgusting!>>743739531FPBP
Dispatch was basically a VN.
Telltale games are basically VNs.
>>743739493Tsukihime - The Other Side of Red Garden will save the medium trust the plan
I've never read a visual novel. What are some good ones? Should I bother reading shit like DDLC?
>>743743391>What are some good ones?The original Tsukihime>Should I bother reading shit like DDLC?DDLC is fun but there's not much to it, it's like 3 hours long and if you've already been spoiled on the overall gimmick (which you almost certainly have) then the main point of the game will fall a bit flat and you won't really get anything out of it.
>>743743391Depends on what you're looking for. Umineko is excellent but long, we are talking about 50+ hours and it has a slow hook. On the other hand you can just read them whenever you want due to the episodic format. Fate is shorter, has 3 routes so that would be a natural place to start. Then there are straight up porn VNs on F95, most VNs are up there for some reason, even non-porn ones.That said DDLC is the natural place to begin if you have zero experience, it will ease you to the VN format. I'd start there, then pick up Fate or Umineko.
>>743743391Try something from this list if you like mysteries.English mystery VNs on Steam from the past few years:>Beyond R: Rule Ripper>Birth ME Code >Blankspace>Clean Slate>CORPSE FACTORY>Decide 4 God (Out now in full 1.0)>Detective Instinct: Farewell, My Beloved>The Divine Deception>Entropic Float: This World Will Decay And Disappear>The Game of Fourtune>Head AS Code (remake)>Look Inside>Methods: The Canada Files>Methods: The Detective Competition>The Price of Flesh>Quantum Suicide>Reaplaced>Shards of Chaos>The Specters Desire>SYNESTHESIA>Tead>Thief's Roulette>Whispering Memories>The Zodiac TrialEnglish mystery VNs on Steam that are to-be-released:>The Lost Delinquents of Rollings High>Motives: The Ultimate Problem>NO MORE WORK FOR ITO>Ubel>Underground22>The Wonderland Killings
>>743743391The nonary games
>>743739493I fucking abhor the tiny ass 'text fov'. It makes reading such a chore. At least with most renpy games you can just extract the script. Any game that doesn't have instant text (fucking rpgm) deserves to die.
>>743743391DDLC is a parody written by someone who has never read a single VN and just went off the memes about them.
>>74373949370% of Americans can't read, and you expect them to play and read a visual "novel"?
>>743744521Dan Salvato is a huge fan of Type-Moon and other VNs and was posting about wanting to marry Tohno Akiha more than a decade ago
>>743744628I'm sure he did bud.
>>743743391Start with one of the popular starting points like Steins;Gate, or a VN-lite like the Phoenix Wright series.
>>743744661It isn't even hard to find, this was two years before DDLC even came out
>>743739493>As a platform they're superior way to present a story since you can combine many different art forms into one packet????
>>743744745And my proof that he hasn't read shit is DDLC.
>>743739493https://store.steampowered.com/app/4012810/STEINSGATE_REBOOT/1 more month until the VN renaissance
>>743744816You're just making shit up based on nothing, then.
>>743744857So it's Steins Gate but with a worse artstyle?
>>743744897>DDLC is nothing
>>743739493In order to make a comeback they need to already have been a big deal, which they never have.
>>743744970Your feelings about it are nothing
>>743739493Popularity has an inverse correlation with quality, so I'm not sure why you would even want that.Just look at how Fate took a nosedive from being some of the best shit ever to bottom of the barrel putrid waste the moment truly big money got involved.
>>743739493>like a novel/manga/comic but badly written because of the format>like an anime/movie without animation>like a vidya without gameplayit should die
>>743743391I'd reccomend the first Grisaia and devil survivor
>>743743391MuramasaHentai PrisonLessons in Love
>>743745325>but badly written because of the formatYour fault for choosing nothing but garbage to read.
How come we're not getting any more mystery novels like Umineko, 999, Danganronpa, Raging Loop, etc...?Feels like years since the last one we collectively enjoyedI guess later this year there will be Manosaba, Depth Loop and Danganronpa 2x2 so at least there's that
>>743745491ooe came out last year
>>743745574Isn't it gay tho?Worth playing?
>>743739493No, between gacha and doujin games actual proper VNs are an ever shrinking market. They aren't entirely dead but they are unlikely to see the cultural dominance they once had. Doesn't help that the majority of VN and eroge companies shut down or are on life support either.
>>743744857God the remake looks dogshit. Yeah let's take a VN with a distinct artstyle and make it generic as fuck. Yet somehow it looks less shit than the YU-NO remake, though that's a really low bar.
>>743745684Moege won't be missed
>>743743391Demonbane, Euphoria, Maggot Baits, F/SN if you want true VNs. Rance or Venus Blood if you want VNs with gameplay.
Is stein's gate just primer but anime
>>743745623yeah, it's a mostly well-written mystery if you can stomach some fagshit
>>743745758>reccomending clockup>"true vn"Anon... all they make is chuuni guro shock content
>>743745820Apparently there's a LOT of fag shit
>>743745862He's obviously using the term to differentiate from VNs with gameplay, not to make up some meme definition where only games he likes can be true VNs.
>>743745862The guro is a plus. Also they actually have decent stories to go along with it.
>>743746041>Decent storiesIts debatable. I will admit that they try to have a story and theming and be more than just pure nukige but actually achieving that is ehhh.
>>743746041>guro is a plusI don't see how anyone could genuinly be into guro
>>743746479It's pretty hot in Nie no Hakoniwa.
>>743746529Its not. Its stupid and ruins a potentially good story by devolving everything into murder rape slop
What should I try after>Muramasa>Steins;Gate>Saya no Uta>UtawarerumonoI guess I like more mature MCs and edgy stories.
>>743746736murder rape kino*Good art and the MC doing it makes it great.
>>743747036Hanachirasu
>>743747203Looks kino, thanks!
>>743746736Must suck to be a fucking pussy. Lemme guess, you were born after 93.
>>743747068It sacrifices everything to be self indulgent fetish material. instead of any sort of political intrigue or character arcs the protagonists turn into two dimensional psychopaths that just go one by one raping and murdering every named character regardless of their relation to the box incident or not. You want to help us? Get murder raped. You're entire adult life is being a beaten housewife? We're murder raping you. The older woman who was a mother figure to the femc instead of pointing out how insane she's acting says "hey please murder and rape me too so i can be with my dead husband" because of course she does. Theres no reason to be invested or care about any of these loons.
