You dont own shit
>steam takes games away>pirate them back
>>743742847Yeah, same goes for everything, what, you think you own your house? Its all conditional
hello timmy
https://github.com/inflation/goldberg_emulatorhttps://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_big_list_of_DRM-free_games_on_Steamhttps://gamecopyworld.com/games/gcw_index.shtmlhttps://allvoices38.com/It doesn't affect me.
>>743742847Imagine if the grape vendor down by the coast actually told customers his grapes turn into poop hours later. You don't actually own the grapes you buy.
You don't own this thread, the last thread you made, and the next one you'll make but here you are, OP, sucking Hiroshimoot's cock.
don't really care because i don't replay games
>>743742938Nobody can ever take my games away and I never have to go searching for them>>743742948Umm yes? I have the cash to pay the property tax on it forever. I also own the deed and legal right to sell it.I also own all the blurays/DVDS and games on my shelf, completely offline and can never be taken away from me.Even if I lived in an apartment to remove responsibilitys of taxes/home ownership, I'd just pack my discs in boxes and move.
steam licenses will almost certainly outlast any physical media you ownand i already own every single old console, bought off ebay, soft or hard modded with upgraded drives and every game imaginable stuffed in, which will also outlast all your physical media
>anon learns how copyright law works
oh shitand this totally affects the way I've used steam for years nowoh wait you faggot
>>743743160no you didn't
>>743743160>steam licenses will almost certainly outlast any physical media you ownSteam has only been popular for 10 maybe 13 years if you want to count that. They didnt start getting any traction or real playerbase until 2015.In 2010 they only had like 2-3 million concurrent players. 94% of their 42 million playerbase that exists today would not have existed back then.
>>743743002>DRM free games on steam.they still require steam launcher to launch, you are a retard: every storefront is a DRM tool.
Cool but ive played every game i paid for and can't sell them anyway so don't really care
>>743742847Neither do you
>>743742847daily snoy meltie
Steamies allowed this future instead of fighting for DRM free ownership of games.
>>743743330>they still require steam launcher to launchno>List all games on Steam which are DRM-free, that meaning games which can be launched without the use of the Steam client.
>>743742847Doesn't affect me personally
>>743743442yes they do, they run a check if steam is running or not and if it isn't it will say "please turn on steam."
>>743743435bold of them to assume i bought anything from Take jew
>>743743415>daily snoy meltiemindbroke faggot
This is the 3rd thread in a row with this autist holy shit.
>>743742847It's ok when Steam does it chud.
>>743743480"some" games don't require steam to be running. Very few though.
>>743743480Read again>that meaning games which can be launched without the use of the Steam client.
>>743742948Property tax is straight up evil and theft, because property is one of the most primordial rights of mankind. If you truly own something you shouldn't have to pay for the privilege of using it or else have it taken away by men with guns. But the fact that a criminal empire is holding your house hostage unless you pay their protection racket, doesn't mean it's a good thing that you're also only renting your toothbrush, your clothes, games, and everything else you use and men with guns can take those at any time too.
>>743743510It's more like the tenth
>>743743247ps2 - softmoddedps3 - softmoddedps4 - unmoddedxbox OG - hard modded (modxo)xbox 360 - hard modded (RGH3)n64 - flash cartgamecube - flippy drivexbone - unmoddedwii - softmoddedswitch - unmodded so fards (not pictured) - softmoddedmister FPGA for everything else
>gog>download DRM free game>click on .exe to install>own the game offline>click play forever>steam>install proprietary data collecting software>sign into always online account>buy game that can't be played without being signed into the client>click play and play for as long as steam will allow youLMAO. I own my games on GOG. I put them on physical discs, I own the copies FOREVER.
>>743742847ok I'll just buy from GOG then np
>>743743669Thats essentially the same thing as piracy. Which is fine. GoG and piracy are the only two types of digital content that can be considered game ownership online these days.IF it has DRM, its not ownership.
Oh no!Anyway...
>>743743138That's cute that you think the government can't just seize it whenever they feel like it.
>>743743797Okay, double click the .exe with steam uninstalled. See what happens, steamie.
>>743743601Property tax is one of the few things that disproportionately fucks over boomers. Let the boomers pay taxes on all the houses they’re keeping from young families.
>>743743698Oh no steambros somebody needs to do something!!!this gotts be illegal somehow!!
>>743742847prove it
>I can sell my blurays for $8-10 a piece if I want to because I OWN them>steamies believe this method of ownership is inferior and I should just not own my mediaWhy are they like this?
>>743743568>>743743583>only games that are years old that can be downloaded from Internet Archive to be played on your craptop.big wow.
>>743743765physical media is the worst form of DRM because that disc will stop working long before steam goes down
>>743743892>young familiesWhat young families?
>>743744091>Why is there a Futurama DVD on the console?>Oh right, there was a licensed game in the early 2000s
>>743742847>another daily rothschild/epic threadBravo
>>743743994Sell them now>>743744047If the game doesn't have DRM on Steam, you can run it; that's the argument here >>743743442
>>743744091My word that is beautiful.
>>743743994why would you sell them instead of selling copies you can make for less than $1?
>>743744091Ok so dont buy physical media from companies that have DRM. I am not anti physical or digital, I am anti hard DRM, especially the kind that requires online verification like steam and or sony. If classify ownership as the ability to play and own a piece of media offline forever with the ability to copy the files offline.All my games are offline with GOG in physical casesAll my movies are offline with bluraysAll my ROMS are offline with blurays
pssstV3 never :(
>>743744351>hard DRM>steamlol https://github.com/inflation/goldberg_emulator
>buy console game like Splatoon or Mario Kart or Uncharted or Halo>does not transfer forward>no backwards compatibility>can't even break the proprietary physical DRM>basically just useless plastic whose only worth is to be sold for 10 bucks at gamestopHow is this better than buying a game on PC?
>>743743698>forever Grim reaper would like a word with you.
>>743744282and that's a retarded argument as you don't need steam to get said games. (for free.)
>>743744447You need a DRM launcher to install the games and mentioning goldberg is a disingenuous tactic by steamies, pretending otherwise that steam games by and large have multiple types of DRM. Some games cant just be DLL swapped many require steam functionality baked into the game or it breaks. Many games have steamworks and .exe patched as well.This is what steam provides devs by default, they can patch the .exes as well as do DLL checks.Just dont use DRM games and platform, how hard is that? Why are you defending a DRM platform.
>>743744091Okay but that anon has a point, that green UI is fucking sick.
>>743744512It isn’t people are simple beings they consume and move on some don’t like going the extra step it’s that simple really.
>>743744586You say this>>743743330>>743743480which is incorrect and you were wrong
>>743742847It's been that way since the 1970s
>>743744519>erm the entropy of the universe and death is as sure of anything, so while you're living, you dont need to own ANYTHING.>give up your rights and stop owning physical things we can't take away from you digitally.No.What you are alluding to is preservation, and if I wanted to preserve the games, I'd have it in my will, and make my kids copy and save all the files.
>>743744512I dumped my Wii U files to play some Splatoon on an emulator. An abstract kind of feel. I'm not sure if I ever set it up for Dolphin.
>>743743435Valve has proper agreements unlike snoy.
Physical releases don't happen on PC anymore, so there's no way for you to legally sell a used PC game, no matter what platform you're using. I don't know why you keep bringing up this "point". You can't sell your GoG games either. If you're pirating and selling the copies that's just bootlegging and it's a crime.
>>743744596>games by and large have multiple types of DRM. Some games cant just be DLL swapped many require steam functionalityGive me a list of which ones.>Just dont use DRM games and platform, how hard is that? Why are you defending a DRM platform.I use whatever platform I want. If the game isn't on GOG, I'll look for it on Steam, problem solved. On PC, I don't have a problem because I have backup options without having to cry like you.
>>743744616UIX-Lite on github, it's the original dashboard patched with a launcher and other features
>>743744723>you a bubbling retard>so now anon jr you gonna copy tens of thousands of games for the rest of your life>me an intellectual >so this kiddo is called qbittorrent
>>743744776Its not about selling its about ownership, playing offline forever and DRM free.Physical movies just so happen to be able to be sold because they are official releases.And theres nothing stopping you from selling a copy to your friend although its immoral and against the spirit of media preservation as well as the law. You are allowed to make physical backups of your media by law in the US.
>>743742847we've known for quite some time. sorry you sony niggers just found out recently.
>>743743601Honestly if you are this whiny you deserve to pay taxes, even if it is theft.
This same thread every day for what feels like years now.
>>743744671show me a game you can't get (for free) on those lists.
>>743744954that's all of /v/everyone left to circlejerk in their friendgroup discords, /vg/ or twitter
>>743745007Show me a game where Steam Goldberg doesn't work, or if it doesn't have DRM, I need Steam to play it.
>>743744918>Its not about selling its about ownership, playing offline forever and DRM free.Really? Because you talk about it constantly in every one of these threads. Or did you finally give up on that one after getting raped by 'if I pirated, why should I care about selling'.
>>743745097DRM free by definition is about offline ownership and the ability to own it forever with no restrictions, it has nothing to do with selling or profiting off the content retard.But thats a deflection, why are YOU using and support a DRM platform if you supposedly care about gaming, huh?
Time to become an epicchad instead
>>743745172Epic game also has DRM-free gameshttps://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games_on_Epic_Games_Store
>>743745342Steam also has DRM free games, does that mean we should support a proprietary client and company that has made its mission to remove ownership from gamers and make you own nothing digitally like sony?No.We should support GoG and DRM free games and installers.If you're against that, you are against gamers.
>>743743994this is the only argument console cvcks can form against buying a pc and most pc supremacists would say we would still have loved to have physical media for itbut this is minor when you take into account>multiple competing digital storefronts (steam, GoG, epic games store, humble, fanatical, green man gaming, etc.) instead of just gaystation store>competition between storefronts often makes lower prices and deeper discounts>you can buy game keys from authorized retailers instead of only one storefront>drm free purchasing for many games through GoG>you can back up drm free installers and reinstall them without needing the original launcher>your library is not tied to one hardware manufacturer because they don't own your pc>you can upgrade your pc instead of replacing your entire gaming ecosystem every console generation>your digital library generally carries forward across new pc hardware without relying on a new console generation's backward compatibility or lack thereof>you're not dependent on one company's decisions about backward compatibility>games can be modded, and all the console cvcks have to play sandbox version>access to multiple launchers instead of just 1>you can customize graphics settings, resolution, frame rate caps, and performance to suit your hardware or liking>you can use any controller, k+m, racing wheel, or flight stick without being limited to one platform>you can play online without paying a platform subscription solely for multiplayer access>pc supports a much larger catalog of games spanning decades>older games are preserved through community patches, compatibility tools, and fan support>you are less dependent on one company keeping a single digital storefront alive
>>743743698how do GOG games / installations receive updates?
>>743745715This. people will say "w-well Nintendo still keeps their old Wii servers up" which begs the question of why they won't let you play their Wii games on modern consoles.
>>743745430I'm not talking about supporting a company. I'm mentioning that they have DRM-free games. On PC, that doesn't affect me. I have games on all three platforms, and since I'm on PC, I can always back up those games, as I already said here >>743743002, regardless of the platform, so it doesn't affect me. You want to equalize things like on consoles, but you can't.
>>743744636man it's literally simpler to game on a pc now tho and you can literally get the same feel from a console if you run bazzite or other linux buildspeople who game on pc love freedompeople who game on console love being slaves and being told what to do
>>743745756automatic with galaxy or offline installers
>>743743435w-who even p-plays 2k anyway b-bro haha it doesnt even matter dude
>>743742847I own thousands of rom files for old consoles
>>743746557@fbi @nintendo:>ARREST THIS MAN FOR VIOLATING MEGACORPORATIONS PROFIT MARGINS FOR YEARS ON NON-PROFITS THEY CAN NOT RECLAIM FROM USED GAMES SALES!
Strange because every game that I've ever bought on Steam is still installable and playable today. If that's not ownership, what is?
>>743746672What if a meteor crushes gay ben and then his EVIL alternate reality version Nebyag comes to our reality and takes away your games what then?
>>743746306thanks fren
steam and gogs license deal is basically the same2.1 We give you and other GOG users the personal right (known legally as a 'license') to use GOG services and to download, access and/or stream (depending on the content) and use GOG content. This license is for your personal use. We can stop or suspend this license in some situations, which are explained later on.
>>743746672Don't worry dude, we're just catching strays right now because PlayStation fanboys know how bad Sony is when it comes to digital ownership and the end of the disc-o-pop days are nigh for them. They'll calm down when they get GTA VI and have something to rub in our faces for a year or two.
>>743746672People trusted sony, look at them now. Its not about what has happened. Its about what can happen. Nobody thought microsoft would own minecraft, and now that they do, its become shit with microtransactions, spyware always online, bans and people losing their account while playing on their own serves.How about you just not put your trust in a DRM platform that hates your consumer freedom thats only been used widely for around 12 years, regardless if they have a "good" reputation(steam doesn't whatsoever).I really don't need to remind you of steams history.They were the first ones to push against consumer refunds in court.They were and still are stealing money from game devs by being greedy.They did paid mods in an attempt to steal 75% of the devs profits.They are actively fighting the EU to against consumer ownership.
>>743747175>People trusted sonyNo, they didn't. Nobody ever did. They never did anything to earn any kind of trust. I'm sure the rest of the words words words is just schizobabble.
>>743746935>erm actually you dont legally own the game copy because you can't print out official copies, plaster the logo on your business and sell thousands of reproduction copies out of your garage>See the licenses are the same! Now buy from steam, a DRM platform where you can't own your games offline or play them without the DRM clientLMAO
>>743746791I'm convinced that once Gabe dies whatever nepo babies they've got managing things will try to make Valve go public so they can pump and dump the company and retire to their own private Epstein island.
>>743747296>everything must conform to my schizo doomer faggotry even when reality runs in direct contradiction to itKill yourself.
>>743743435Fake ai jeet images
>>743742847>Commiefornia lawEU law says that they can't stop me from selling used software licenses.>>743747175Yeah and people still buying shit on consoles are retards. It's not your computer, the company can do whatever they want with it if they get access (such as when downloading firmware or just connecting to the internet).If Steam were on consoles, then it would be shit, but it is on PCs. Even SteamOS is still just Arch Linux and you can remove it from their hardware with no fuss or loss in functionality.
>>743747437>EU law says that they can't stop me from selling used software licenses.Has anyone actually done this in the EU though? I see this posted but I've never seen any precedent for how you actually sell a license to another guy.
>>743747373>even when reality runs in direct contradiction to itIt must be nice to live in your reality.
>>743747516I can see how it would be a nightmare living in your schizo head.
>>743747175Sucks for consoles, but again PC has a sword of damocles as its trump card. Should any DRM platform ever try anything, piracy is the great equalizer. Infact, I've already begun moving my library off of steam. I like using steam, but it is still a launcher, so it is worthy of suspicion. Never hurts to have a backup plan, and with goldberg/steamless, that's just what we needed.
>>743743994enjoy your fb dms filling up with boomer women offering $5 for 10 of them and asking if you'll deliver.
>>743743601It's a bit different because what gives your property it's value is the city. By itself your property wouldn't be worth more than any other house in bumfuck nowhere. That said, IMO property tax should only be for unused properties, and much higher than what it is now.
>>743742847>doesn't have installers tucked awayOh right, a consolefaggot.
>>743742847isn't this law that they have to explicitly say you're only buying a license the only result of the stop killing games campaign? or is that unrelated
>>743743654It's more like the tenth today. He's been doing this every day since he got VAC banned in September 2023.
>>743743435I don't know where this cope that they'll just start taking people's games away for no reason is coming from. There's plenty of games people bought that are delisted that they can still download off Steam's servers.
>>743747567It's a unique form of redditardism where there is no hope for anything. It's quite funny:>Private companies are evil, since Valve is a private company they must be evil>But if Valve goes public then that'd make them double evil and then you'd finally lose those games of yours!>And if a public company goes private then it's triple evil because private equity is ultra super evil! They won't be happy until every game studio is a government funded office that employs millions of retards to do nothing. But this has literally nothing to do with the current thread, which is just thinly veiled sony cope over the fact that their locked down little appliance won't be using plastic discs anymore.
>>743747774>It's more like the tenth today. He's been doing this every day since he got VAC banned in September 2023.qrd?
>>743743435retard jeet, you know that the original dark souls 1 ptde was removed from the store for the remake but you keep it in your library if you already had it right?
>>743745007Cyberpunk 2077The list is fucking massive and basically you're a fucking idiot. Kill yourself.
>>743747641property tax should only be for corporate use of land, you can make more money by making them pay 10-15% or whatever than you can get out of people trying to make a living on a farm or whatever (farmers don't make a whole lot of money), you can tax produce sales, you can tax rent, you can't tax living itself, that's extortion.
>>743747910>tranny game I'm not (and many others aren't) interested in playing.gg.
>>743747746>isn't this law that they have to explicitly say you're only buying a license the only result of the stop killing games campaign?No. The failed skig campaign only started in the last year. Valve made it obvious you were buying a license (the same way it's been for decades) 2 years ago. It's got nothing to do with it.
>>743743138>I also own all the blurays/DVDS and games on my shelf, completely offlineLmao. You don't own shit unless it's a DRM free copy on a PC you control.
>>743742847yeah, which is why I only buy on sale99% chance I'll only play this game once anyway, so if they revoke it at some point in the future, it's whatever.with the money I saved, I can buy copies of the games I'd actually like to play again a hundred times over.
>>743742847How is Valve going to take away my offline backed up copies?
>>743747960I agree that corporate use of land should be taxed higher. That said, I also think that someone having multiple properties and no intention of renting them is also wrong and should be discouraged. It literally fucks over everyone.
>>743743994good luck actually selling more than 4-5 of those.
>>743743994>Burgled? Media lost.>House fire? Media lost.>Accidentally scratch the disk? Media lost.>Divorce? Say bye bye to half those disksCouldn't be me.
sorry OP still not buying ps6
>>743747858I'm phoneposting from bed, but I've encountered this faggot every day for the past year or so. He says "steamies" a lot. He shifts arguments all the time, but here's a short bullet list of his complaints:>casinos for children >paid mods>lootboxes >muh ownership >random bitching about the state of Valve's games>the 30% cut is unfair, but only when Valve does it>launcher takes up almost all of his 1GB RAMHe also used to complain that Valve was forcing him to upgrade from the 15 year old OS and hardware he's running.He argued with me about how he got VAC banned for using FRAPS, which everyone and their mother used for about a decade. This led to him saying a VAC ban prevented him from selling his knife JPEGs.I got curious and searched the archives and found posts starting in September 2023 fitting his pattern, so that was likely when he was wallhacking and got banned.
>>743742847>Purchase of perpetual licence fall under the same consumer rights laws as purchase of physical media.eutards win again
>>743747296You're convinced because of this random nepo baby nonsense you made up, when the fact is Valve's internal culture is hypercompetitive and everyone must bring something to the table? Also institutions as mature as Valve don't radically change just because the CEO is succeeded, especially when it's a planned transition. Just like Walmart has barely changed in 80 years. Entirely because the people that have been working in the company for decades don't want it to change. Retard.
>>743748170in that case the issue is monopoly and monopoly laws should just be enforced further than they already are. (unused/degraded land should have 5 year period of after being sold needing to be developed in order to keep it or face lawsuits/asset seizure, simple as.)
>>743742847you dont even own the license - you cant transfer it means you DONT own it
>>743748576i can family share my games thoughbeit
>>743743435>>743742847fucking schizo, why don't you get a real job instead of shitposting here every day?
>>743742847okay, and? what are you suggesting?
>>743743138damn everyone, look at this actual retard, he thinks his CD's are actually gonna do something and aren't just codesalso they just said they're getting rid of physical so get owned i guess
>>743742847Posted it again award.
>>743743765>yes, just avoid the vast majority of games for the rest of your lifeget real idiot
>>743748739Yes, I own my copy of stephen kings IT, forever on bluray.Yes, I own my copy of fallout new vegas, forever on bluray with a GOG installer.I can copy the files and play it offline completely.I own it forever.Steamies have to use a locked down DRM launcher to access and play their media.
>>743742847I stopped buying steam games 10 years ago, I only use it to play what I already got now. No one gives a fuck so who cares
>>743748607can you transfer or sell the license to another account? noyou dont own it by a legal definition, paid for air, legally screwed and not protected by 1st sale doctrine not to dunk you, we are all in the same boat - we need digital ownership laws
>>743743435>snoys have to create a fake image just to cope with the fact that they get raped by their corporate overlord
>>743748797If its not on GoG, pirate it.Id rather have that future than accept steam DRMs you vill own nothing future.Why should I accept a DRM always online future?
I'm 45. I'll be long dead before Steam.
>>743748861See >>743747254
>>743748904>don't participate whatsoever in the entirety of videogame media, forgo multiplayer and everything else because i'm a huge fucking retard who thinks voting with his wallet worksonce again, get real
>>743748986Video games and their multiplayer services should be decentralized and rely on community made servers.They already do after valve cuts support. The majority of left 4 dead 2 servers are community, as well as CSS. These games are not supported by valve anymore.Valve doesnt do shit to preserve multiplayer except shove DRM everywhere and VAC that doesnt work.Most multiplayer games on steam do not use steam servers retard.
>>743748290>be me>own massive physical collection>also own massive digital collection and back ups of both.>lmao
>>743748142No no, you don't understand. Valve will activate a super killswitch embedded in all of your exes that will make them explode, and likely destroy your computer and even your house.
>>743749136Do they use steamapi for networking? Yes? They are using steam servers, they have achievements? They are using steam servers, they have a forum? They are using steam servers, they have a store page? They allow players to join through steamapi? They are using steam servers.
>>743748861Damn, I can't transfer my identity to someone else, guess I don't own myself.
>>743749339Those are steam exclusive features. You dont need to be able to join your friends to play a game server.Anyways I will never use a DRM platform
>>743749394>guess I don't own myself.You won't believe it, but you actually don't
>>743749440I bet you've handled cash in the last 15 years, weirdo.
So as we can conclude, steamies dont want ownership, they want a digital you vill own nothing future.They hate DRM freeThey hate always offlineThey hate ownership offlineThey hate consumer freedomThey hate reselling of your personal media.
>>743749440>vote with your wallet! DRM BADyeah, we know it's bad, we all call it bad, GoG is a pathetic alternative, it has no purpose aside from being a place to pirate easily, it's only gimmick these days is straight up repackaging patches into older games, no one cares about the DRM free part aside from pirating the games.>>743749638You're delusional and keep posting about "steamies" when there are other companies that are worse that you could be pushing against, instead your here shitposting about "steam" one of the least of all evils instead of Epic Games or something equally useless and retarded on top of being DRM filled, thankfully we both have nothing better to do with our time so none of this means anything, aside from the fact I'm not a retard shitposting pointlessly.
>*valve implodes alongside GOG*Oh no, anyway>*pirates*
Steam got gud service, and they don't care if I perform some magic to make the data I bought truly untouchable. All they have to do is make things easier than piracy while not forcing the option off the table.
>>743742847>another snoygger seething thread #439058340234Boring
>>743750052anyone still playing only on snoygames is an Indian.
>>743749638And what do you have to say to someone who uses multiple services, and even pirates, and buys games directly from the devs? My copy of starsector is offline and can never be taken away from me. My N64 romhacks are safe. Just seems like you got nothing on me.
>>743749638What we can really conclude here is that the DRM doesn't really matter; we're on PC, we can back up our stuff however we want, and no company can stop us, so I'm going to buy the game wherever I can or pirate it.On the other hand, on a console, you're screwed, especially on a 100% digital console, which is nothing like a PC when it comes to digital games.
>>743750101This. After finding out that my games didn't transfer to my Ps4, and every PSN purchase I made was essentially permanently locked to my PS3, that was it. No Ps5. No sir.
>here's your based ceo steamiesA guy who doesnt give a shit about your games, takes a 30% cut and things money steers everything and has made it clear you don't own shit.Yea, 30 years from now, how confident are you you'll own your games?I'll still own my blurays, I'll still own my GOG installers.
>>743743002>spoonfeeding this much
>>743746436This but 100% unironically. What kind of tasteless normie cattle can you be?
>>743750749Will I care about games when I'm 75?
>>743746961It's always the pattern.Sony does something horrible and these retards deflect with>le xbox bad>le pc badThe worst I've seen in the last week is the actual literal gaystation shills calling pc supremacists grifters for saying how bad it is what sony is doing
>>743750749>look at sony and nintendo>they have the audacity to charge money for their games instead of giving them away for free>have to buy movies and GOG games, instead of them being freeGreedy pricks.
>>743747908to be fair the original DS1 is as good as deleted
>>743751182well yeah because they took the servers down right? idk if you can still fuck around with 3rd party shit or what but at least you can still play it singleplayer
>>743751169Sony is greedy and hates your consumer rightsNintendo is greedy and hates your consumer rightsValve is greedy and hates your consumer rightsThere is zero difference between any of these companies.https://youtu.be/o3he7hehlrc
I cant wait until these fuckers collapse. I hate steam. They deserve all of the collapse. The only good thing they have done for gaming and consumer freedom is contribute to linux, but we all know they are using that to make a locked down DRM OS which is called steamOS, they aren't doing it for your benefit. They are doing it so you stay with steam and can't game on any other platform.
>>743751523settle down timmy
>>743751523>locked down drm OSIt’s out an it’s not locked down.
>>743750749he's right. the only ones who disagree are trannies trying to posture being noble and making mods for free (before turning around and shilling their patreon)
>>743742847Legally if is just a license then it means i am free to do whatever shit even reselling cracked versions because i paid for a license.Can't believe how retard you have to be to assume "license = not ownership" when is quite the contrary.
>this shit againrepeating threads should be instant ban
>>743748468my dad actually works at valve and can confirm they plan on tying Gabe to the anchor and throwing him into the atlantic so they can sell off Steam to Microsoft and build a Ziggurat in Bill Gates' honor.
>>743742847>"buy" game>confused why it didn't come with the source code>confused why other people are playing copies without your permission>confused why the company you bought the game from is mad that you are selling copies when it's not their game anymore because you bought itDid we really need a law to warn people about this?
>>743751280>Sony is greedy and hates your consumer rights>Nintendo is greedy and hates your consumer rights>Valve is greedy and hates your consumer rightsThis. I don't understand how anyone can support one of these anti-consumer companies.
>>743742847that's funny because steam let's me play every game I bought even if "the licenses" ran out.
>>743753883WrongPer valves own user agreement, you don't own shit legally. You have DRM copies that would not work the moment your license gets revoked or require online ID verification.Tomorrow they could wipe your account and you would have no legal recourse and they could do this for any reason.GOG on the other hand just werks, I own my offline installer forever.Blurays on the other hand just werks, I own my movies offline forever and can rip them.Tomorrow they can't just take it away from me, valve can and will in the future.
>>743754048>You have DRM copies that would not work the moment your license gets revoked or require online ID verification.proof?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MWhpWNAEUo7lol
>>743755023But why?
>>743755428mental retardation
>>743743435>this rent free about Steamnot even hiding it Swiney
>>743742847I can always pirate
>>743756714You can't
>>743742847Gabe won, troon.
>>743742847Been using steam since it released, never had a problem, likely never will, am going to continue using it. Simple as.
