It's just the 2 boring bitches from the second game lol
>>743747867Was the second game that much a flop that they had to go back to making DLC for the first game?
>>743747959Yes kek
Xelsword will be sent back to the player character mines once again
>>743748134>LLE about to get bricked againtragic
>>743747867>its taken them this long to figure out how to add new damage effects to DD1
>>743747959GO WOKE GO BROKE AMIRITE
Did they make backstory comics for these two?
>more trash to bloat the character pool like musketeerthey're so washed up it's unreal
>>743747867>>743747959What a humiliation ritual, but remember that red hook has been incompetent from the start
>>743747959It was so bad it even killed the narrator
>>743750502fuck offMargaret is based
>more characters>no new monsters or locations???
>>743747867It's nice that it's getting updates, but two new classes seems pretty disappointing considering what people are doing with mods. We already have fan-made versions of these characters, and they'll most likely be better than what we'll get for money.
Is the sandnigger mod finally finished?
>>743751357>modThey're vanilla.
the real secret is they resent their community for ignoring the sequel so they want to update DD1 to break people's mods out of spite
>>743751357NoThey promised a 1.0 release in late 2026>>743751643He meant Black Reliquary
>>743751818These are just two new characters. Updates for DD1 don't break mods the way they do for other games. I wouldn't mind if they broke all the mods, as long as they make a mod organizer that actually works.
>DD2 shat the bed so hard they're resorting to releasing DLC for the first game againlmao
What are they going to do for the recruit voice lines
>>743747867>2 flop so hard they are crawling back to first gamelol
DD2 would have been well-received if it just went the Slay the Spire or Hollow Knight or Hades or Monster Train route and just made the first game but morebut Red Hook wanted to do something different and learned the hard lesson that fans of something don't want a new thing they never asked for as the sequel to their old thing
>>743752024>They take lil' timmy's devil money>Sell a rush, unfinished games to their most loyal fans>Try to sell the finished game to mouth breathers on Steam>Some take the bait and bite, most walk awayGood Riddance to those Piece of Shit. I regret buying DD1, they didn't deserve my trust.
>>743752012use ai and pretend they hired a soundalike and get shit on for a week or so when it gets found out
>>743752168I was pretty open to a shorter experience since the first game takes like 100 hours for 1 run but every other change is just fucking baffling
>>743747867werent these mods already?im like 99% sure someone or some people had backported these already
>>743752342Yep
>>743747867>sequel makes every hero gay>dies
>>743749656Exactly, and the new DLC is a tranny character who "switched gender" by dropping a guillotine on his pee pee.
>>743752168I'm 100% sure people wouldn't hate the game so much if it had been marketed as a spin-off instead of a sequel and called some shit like Darkest Dungeon Revelations.
>>743747867So they're adding a nigger and Ellen Paige?
>>743752168DD2's big problems are that most of the changes they made are just bad, on top of them spitefully using 3d models to make the game harder to mod so they can sell classes as DLC.
>>743753023>the new DLC is a tranny character who "switched gender" by dropping a guillotine on his pee pee.Surely you jest.
>>743747867>please buy the DLC to use this ugly niggress to riposte instead of HW and the retarded lesbian for DoT instead of PD she doesn't have stuns tho.nah, I'm good.
>>743753601>so they can sell classes as DLCThey made like two class DLCs.I think they just liked the 3D.
>>743751249this looks horriblelike some didn't understand the Mignola style DD was imitating you have horrible taste for recommending this modded trash
>>743752168Its better that game devs try something different. Should've just listened to feedback more closely during the beta. The eyeball boss in particular was pissing off players for a good year and a half with its bullshit.
>>743754112OkBut its fun
>>743754112looks fine to me bro
>>743754203doing something drastically different for no reason in a sequel is usually a bad thing actually
>>743752168>They wanted to do something differentThen why use the same setting/characters from the first game! this excuse is always bullshit
>>743747867darkest sisters our sequel?
>>743749656>>743753023it's not even wokeit's just a mid gamethey tried to ape StS without understanding why people love StS and why DD's combat wouldnt work for a StS kind of game
>>743750515I mean the art style is good and was copied already.
over/under on DD ever getting a chatbot integration mod? it's not like kenshi where i need it (or journaling) to stay interested. i just love how chatty and expressive heroes are by default, and want to see that expanded on
>>743757939go be a slave somewhere else, this thread is about video games
>>743747959>>743749656>>743753023Seriously? No way, right?
>>743747867>nigger fencer>quasimodo femcel
>>743749950She wasn't even schlicking it, seems like a severe overreaction to banish her to a murderous occult village for getting a little damp.
>>743761613The problem was not that she got horny but that she let the fire in the background go out. She was a literal Vestal, it was her job to make sure the fire didnt go out
>>743747959same thing happened to the risk of rain devs
>>743747867>DD1doesnt this game have endless free mod characters? why would you ever pay for them?
>>743761865No it didn't, what are you talking about?
>>743761807if it's anything like the actual vestals the horniness is much worse of a problemthe romans only whipped vestals if their fire went out but buried them alive locked in special underground rooms to starve if they thought they'd possibly lost their virginities
>>743761935He most likely thinking about Risk of rain return as proof that RoR2 did poorly, which is nonsense but what are you gonna do some people put the effort into being retarded
>>743762325I didn't ask you faggot, I was asking the retard.
>>743752168Did they try not making the writing shit in a game entirely carried by the world and its storyteller?
>>743758263i'm sorry your DD2 advertisement isn't doing well on /v/, mr. redhook. i guess it was rude of me to treat it like a DD1 thread and at least get some use out of it. but that's only the culture here. just the other month there was a new top r/darkestdungeon post of all time, some virtue signaling tweet about not using AI in game production. isn't that great? that there's so much excitement and support over something you haven't even done yet? any audience is something to celebrate and cherish. i hope whichever side of your community you decide to cater to, that they are able to reenergize you to create beautiful and clever things in spite of this harsh world. us more undesirable, distasteful modders do not resent your or your upright fans' scorn. because we appreciate what you have to be, and the cover you give us to ourselves be free. thank you for everything.
>>743762763least sensitive claudefag
No fucking way, I've been asking for that! The firestarter is so much fun, it's the most fun class in 2, but 2 is such an empty and meaningless game so I just go back and replay 1 all the time.
>>743761914>doesnt this game have endless free mod characters?Yeah
>>7437521682 vastly improved almost every part of 1. However, the one part it changed for the worse, the game's overall structure, was so damning that none of the other improvements matter in the end.
>>743763781>the game's overall structure, was so damning that none of the other improvements matter in the end.yep
>>743749656>ignoring all the woke games doing fucking banger
Are people looking forward to returning to DD1 after all this time? It's a pretty frustrating game.
>>743761613Well, the rest of the order get entombed alive inside the monastery so she actually got off heh easy
>>743747959Same thing happened to Cities Skylines. CS2 is getting just micro DLC while first game is still getting proper expansions.
>>743747867So they're just selling backport mods now?
>>743764234Are you listening Johan?
>good mods hidden behind awful DLC that isn't necessary for the mod at all
>>743747867I've never played the Black Reliquary mod, do you think it will be compatible with this DLC? I haven't played Darkest Dungeon in ages, but this seems like a good excuse to pick it up again. >>743749950I don't think so since the sequel already showed their back stories. It would be cool though.>>743752012Reuse the lines from the sequel? It's a different character but still the same VA.
>>743764861Why do you think the mods will be hidden behind it? There's already fire attack framework used by many mods.
>>743764391Please no. Every patch since 1.20 made eu4 worse, especially the latest ones that had the retards who fucked up 5 behind it.
>>743747867Runaway is my wife.
Random question, but does anyone have a good mod list for 1? I haven’t played it in ages, and I’ve completely forgotten which mods are worth using. Most of the top rated mod lists are in in Chinese for some reason
Darkest Dungeon legitimately has one of the worst and most tranny-filled modding communities of any game ever made.
>>743765690Mad cuz bad.
>>743765641Don't mod DD1. It's perfect as it is. And with this new DLC it will be made perfect-er.
>>743765690You could just make your own good Darkest Dungeon mods
>>743765641>mod listNo, because there are no modlists for DD1.
>>743765843Steam workshop collections?
>>743765831>implying anyone bitching about that shit can actually createat most you'll get AI slop pics plastered on top of someone else's mod
>>743765690Red? Is that you?
>>743764063I play on radiant mode :^)
>>743765929They don't work as modlists. The biggest problem with DD1 mods is that you have to manually activate and sort all the mods in its terrible menu.
>>743765641the single most important mod is the one that lets stuff stack bettereverything else is flavor
>>743765641Why DO the Chinese like making mods for this game so much?
>>743747867>Official DLC to add Duelist and Runaway>Will inevitably suck compared to the modded versions of those classes>All of the mods will have to update again, including all the mods that made fire damage a thing>Will have to have two versions of all the fire damage compat, one for the modded version of Runaway, one for officialFucking hell man.
https://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/2137 Has anyone tried this?>>743766158It's just a misunderstanding. Chinese portion of Steam and the internet is literally comparable to the entire English-speaking world plus all other languages combined. There are just a shitload of Chinese people
>>743766232>All of the mods will have to update againWhy would this be the case?
>>743766010Well, that’s just semantics at this point. I’ve used collections that worked perfectly fine as long as I didn’t mix them with others.
>>743766763It works fine for small modlist, but not for large ones, so it's not semantics.
>>743747867Wayne June is unfortunately dead. I wonder if they just won't give the new heroes new recruiting lines at all.
>>743767846They're from the sequel, so maybe they will just use the recruiting lines from that.
>>743754112A bit. Mignola uses black in consideration to the darkness represented to the whole page. Its easy to just look at it and equate black as filing out the majority of the background and putting it on characters like cool face paint. I dont blame amatuer artists too much since this is color theory unique to mostly Mignola's style and antithetical to modern output focused art theories.
>>743762452>the world and its storyteller?The world and storytelling is vague as shit. Its the art that sells it.
>>743769190>The world and storytelling is vague as shit>ancestor is a spoiled rich asshole who hates other rich assholes>he dabbles in occult shit>meets a vampire at one of his parties, attempts to kill her, and feeds her blood to the others there>they all turn into vampires and he locks them away>during this event he gets a peek at the thing below>dabbles in more occult shit>it always goes wrong>blah blah blah>the thing he saw is the creator of mankind>you win>doesn't matter>now you're just going to end up like him and it will still eventually rise up to destroy us all>destroy us all>destroy us all
>>743769442Not sure how this works but would the MOD version get deleted now its DLC?
>>743769190>The world and storytelling is vague as shit.It's not. It's very clear that there's some eldritch abomination trying to breach into our world>>743769190>Its the art that sells it.It's the art that sells it as well*
>>743765641a mod to make stuff faster is essential if you're replaying the game. beyond that, it's just personal preference or you cheating by making the game easier.
>>743769567yeah, I think the Heart finally fully awakening will delete the mods
>>743747867How much are you willing to bet you have to pay for this?
>>743751249>>743756536What mod adds in the Wildlanders?I need naked Woad Women in my game.
This game would've been ten trillion times better if they repeated the core gameplay loop of darkest dungeon one and expanded it, while also keeping the new gameplay, the new animations, and new mechanics related to combat ect.All of that is kino.The game loop itself is fucking terrible and a gigantic downgrade from darkest dungeon.
>>743752168The fucking carriage needs to be taken out of the sequel. Its a quarter of your playtime every run.
>>743770324Genuinely wtf were they thinking when they did this? Were they trying to appeal to a more casual audience? Lol?????Do they not know the reason most people PLAY DARKEST DUNGEON IS BECAUSE IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF A CASUAL EXPERIENCE, IT'S FOR HARDCORE ASS MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!
>>743762927You can tell the ai fags because they write more than 3 sentences
>>743770081
Wasn't the duelist from a dlc in the 1st game too?Also just make a completely new mode in 2 at this point and just let us look at the character model and animations since that's the only worthwhile part of 2
>>743750502You mean Arbalest. She literally is a hand-me-down for the plebs while Musketeer was for the noble elites
>>743747867>>743747959Was 2 really that bad?
>>743770429When i play DD1 i might spend 20 mins in town if i got tough choices. DD2 you will spend hours driving the carriage whether you want to or not.
>>743747959This is why a lot of developers that kinda got lucky don't want to do a sequel. Terraria probably made more money in the long run by constantly updating the game and releasing it to new audiences, rather than to release a middling 5/10 game for a quick cash grab that dropped to zero players after a few months
>>743753601>on top of them spitefully using 3d models to make the game harder to mod so they can sell classes as DLC.bro they made two hero dlcs, same as the first one. are you retarded or what?
>>743770671Arbalest was first and she's objectively better
I'm not going to sugarcoat itDuelists AdvancePoint Blank Shot
>>743765641I do actually. Bear in mind that not all mods are perfectly fitting, but I don't use any of those anime coomer mods that plague the workshop.>Every single "Marvin Seo's" mod including all act-outs, quirks, trinkets and districtsExcellent series of very fitting mods that could easily make it into the base game.>Monk class mod (Rebalance patch optional as base Monk can be OP)>Cataphract class mod>Commandant class mod>Shinobi class modThese 4 class mods play very well and are relatively fitting. DD has innumerous class mods and you should hand pick the ones you want, these are the ones I recommend.>Faster combat/Walking/Scouting etc.Many mods that do this exist. I personally am currently using "Perfect Faster Dungeon" mod. Pick one that feels not too fast but not to slow to you>Pitch black dungeon backport enemy mods. Including "The lost crusade", "Wildlife madness", "Wildlanders backport" and "Ghouls backport"Add new "generic" enemies into the game with variations to all difficulties. Excellent extra content.>Inventory stack modsSome people think its cheating. It might be if you only ever plan on playing this game once. But I start new runs every couple months or so and skipping a lot of the grind is perfectly fine with me. Use at your own discretion. I currently use "Inventory Unlimited Stacks">Trinket modsI use a fuck load of those. Keep in mind not all are perfectly balanced, here's a few:>"Major Arcana Trinkets" from Pitch Black Dungeon (Standalone mod, does not require PBD)>"More Epic Trinkets">"More Collector Trinkets" (Basically gives the Collector new "head" items based on the original DD cast)>"101 New trinkets mod">"Bits & Pieces: A Monster Trinket mod">"Singleplayer Circus Trinkets" (Let's you buy Circus trinkets from the nomad wagon for a sizable amount of gold)Pick and use any or all of the above at your leisure. I use all of them.(1/2)
>>743770728It wasn't "bad", but it was a disappointment compared to the first. The gameplay is great, but actually getting to the later stages of the game suck and some of the RNG is even worse then it was in the first game or even various mods for the first game.
>>743767846They just confirmed they will be porting narration straight from DD2, lol. Seems like not giving Wayne a distinctly different character in sequel actually paid off in a way.
>>743770914Erm, nyo.
>>743747867All game developers are faggots
I remember there was WIP Butcher Circus themed dungeon mod. Any news on that or was it just cancelled?
>>743747867What are the best furry skin mods for this game? I don't mind going full horny.
>>743771243I don't know about the skins, but picrel class mods are really fun.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3450987382
Why 90% of ero mods can't even do basic shadows on eyes to keep it aesthetically correct? No standards whatsoever.
>>743771460Burn in hell faggot
>>743763834So true xister, now let's go back to Marathon
>>743761935>>743762325They handed the game off to gearbox and said they didn't enjoy developing in 3d as much as 2dthen remade the first game
>>743770997>"Abundant Loot" and "More Resolve 2.0"Again, less grind. Good if you are replaying the game several times like me. Less so if its your first time playing.>"Level Restrictions Removal (1.9)Ok hear me out. If you use a mod that gives more Resolve per quest you WILL end up in a situation where you can't kill a low level boss because your entire roster is filled with Level 6 heroes. Use this mod if you end up like that. Or don't if it doesn't bother you, it can feel like cheating though.>"Expanded Roster: 100"This mod makes one of the stagecoach upgrades kinda useless. The problem is that if you use too many new Class mods you will end up in a situation where you just can't fit all of them in the base roster. This mod solves that.>Hero rebalance modsEither pick one of the two below or neither:>"Gyll's Vanilla Heroes">"Heroes Unchained: All in One"These two mods change the base DD heroes. Usually making them stronger. Good if you are tired of the base game and are disregarding balance just to have things be a bit different. They are incompatible with each other for obvious reasons. If you feel like its cheating just don't pick any of them. I personally use Gyll's Vanilla Heroes because its more interesting.>"Hard Earned Districts: All in one"Adds new districts. Obviously can make the game easier because Districts are just passive buffs you have at all times. But you gotta grind a fuck load for all of them so its worth it and balanced enough if you ask me.>"Better Nomad Wagon (CC) (1.3.5)Rebalances the nomad wagon by making the trinkets for sale not complete garbage 90% of the time. Compatible with the Circus trinkets mod from above.>"Better Stagecoach (1.3)"Let's heroes of Resolve up to level 5 show up on the stagecoach (Once you upgrade it), good to skip some grind.>"Trinket Rebalance (3.2)"Makes some of the base game trinkets not completely worthless to use.(2/3) Sorry I had to rewrite this whole thing lol one sec
>>743747959Not really. They’re working on both right now.
>>743770509Thanks mate
I love how much of an asshole Ancestor is. I kinda like how they double down on him being a narcissist with every DLC, even if it makes him less regretful.
>>743772052
>>743770860>DLCs are just existing characters from the first game that got cut out to be sold back later at 10 dollars a popI am surprised Red Hook made enough to hire such dedicated paid shills.
>>743770661You might be mixing her up with the Shieldbreaker. >>743770743Walking down the hallways is a more compatible mechanic to driving the carriage. I don't get why Anons get so buttbroken about it when it's practically the same thing. It's the inns that are the hamlet equivalents in the sequel.
>>743772075He regretted it enough at the end to shoot himself, for all the good it did.
>>743772075He is kind of a person who is only ever going to regret failing (or succeeding wrong, from a certain perspective).
>>743771184They posted a skin mod as a teaser last year. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3465023279 Creators are active and release other mods but there's no information about the project as a whole. Including a completely different project that also got a teaser... https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3082687358So only god knows what's going on with it.
>>743765739This game is utter garbage without mods, lmao
OK why?
>>743762323Junia got locked in a room with Damien (Flagellant), and he beat the shit out of her so hard that she prayed to The Light to save her, and actually did by helping her escape.
>>743772216Is that fucking Oliver from Fire Emblem 9 at the bottom there
"Why" what?
>>743770728It's a completely different gameplay loop from the first, other than the combat being very similar. A lot of what was likeable about the first game is just not there.Not bad, just not really a great sequel either.
>>743772129Walking down the hallway ties the gameplay to the setting, driving the carriage is frogger on an autoscroller.
>>743770997>>743771776>"Casual Provisions and common enemies (1.5)"Adds a list on the provision screen showing what provisions are most needed for each dungeon. Not needed if you got it all memorized but 1000+ hours in and I still forget some.>"Curio Hints"Same thing as the one above but for Curios in dungeons. Adds a little item on the Curio to remind you which provision to use on it.>"3 trinkets"Completely fucking breaks all balancing. But opens up new possibilities and ways to play. Use at your own discretion, I do.>"EC Dungeon Backgrounds"Adds new backgrounds to the dungeons. They are pretty cool and pretty well fitting. Just a visual mod.And lastly a few honorable mentions of mods I don't use anymore.>"The Hoarder: DD2 Provisions"Adds provisions from DD2 into 1. Completely fucking breaks balance again as DD2 items are OP as shit and are not made for 1. Several items just give your party +3 Speed or 20% less stress for the whole quest. Stupid strong but fun.>"Reduced Crimson Curse Chance"Fuck Crimson Curse. I used this mod because it was so easy to get chronic anxiety and having to dig out that damn dungeon for blood. The mod is good if you want to have it enabled but want to reduce the pressure from it (Which kinda defeats the point)>"Complex Compulsions">"Cursed Grounds District"I have no fucking idea what these mods do but I've used them for so long that they are just kinda enabled at all times lolAnd that's about the mod list I currently use. I've used many more throughout the years but they are kind of superfluous or incompatible if you are using everything else I listed (Level 2 and 4 quests, Increased quest rewards, these will break if you use the other ones but they exist and are good)
>>743772380I've never played any Fire Emblem games, but yeah, it looks just like him.
>>743772075>The poor Miller — thrice a victim. The seasons took his livelihood, I took his land, and now, uncountable years later, the comet has taken his humanity. My only regret is that I did not live to see that shoddy mill smashed to pieces by the miraculous bounty I reaped from beyond the void.What the fuck did he ever do the Ancestor to earn this kind of hatred?
>>743747959>>743748032So, like PAYDAY 3?
>>743772773No.
>>743772748Nothing. The Ancestor is literally and unequivocally an asshole who doomed the entire world out of boredom.That's literally all there is to it.
>>743772748Put too much allum in his flour.
>>743772907Whos the 4th adventure you would have to round out this team?
Why is DD community so horny?
>>743772962Backline Crusader
>>743772532Man i would breed her really quickly.
>>743773050Perhaps the same could be said of all communities.
What else from DD2 would you like to see them add into DD1? I was thinking area bosses, but then I remembered how goddamn annoying they were to fight, even if their designs were 10/10.
>>743770496no see the DD reddit is the place to be for AI (and ecchi mod) bashing for points or whatever and that's fine. but video game threads on 4chan are the chance to ask about things you can't ask there. hence you should extend some consideration and not bring along your prejudice from other sites. does that make sense? okay thank you mr. redhook and please do not break too much with your DD2 backport>>743771243xelsword edits on the workshop
>>743772748The Ancestor threw massive hedonistic parties just to seethe in the corner about the disgusting people who dared come to his parties. And then he decided to murder a woman at one of those parties just for being hot. And he murdered a little girl by chaining her to an idol and offering her to fish-people in exchange for gold and jewels as if he wasn't already a rich fucker who owns a whole sprawling estate with a hamlet.He was a shitter who hated literally everyone.
KekToo little too late, they dun goof'd by doing that awful "sequel"
>>743772748Have an audacity to ask him for help.Did you miss how he sold out a girl to fishman for some pocket money. Or how he basically hired thugs to control Hamlet. Or how he killed than resurrected researchers as necromancers for absolutely no reason, because he completely dropped necromancy research after that? Half of the time he does shit because he just wants to. Other half of the time he does shit to cover up his other shit. HE IS AN ABSOLUTE ASSHOLE
>>743773050I genuinely don't know. Darkest Dungeon is a game that doesn't fit with this kind of content at all. It makes no sense whatsoever, those mods are all incredibly awkward when you compare them to the world.And yet 80% of the workshop is filled with them.
>>743773351>he wasn't already a rich fucker who owns a whole sprawling estate with a hamletTo be honest, he was FUCKING BANKRUPT because of excavation and research. This is part of sailors story-line and is the reason why he sunk them, because he didn't have anything to pay them for trinkets.
>>743773075Based, not efficent but based
>>743773514>those mods are all incredibly awkward when you compare them to the worldThere is a whole mechanic where you can send your mercenaries to have sex with ladies at a brothel to de-stress to be fair.
>>743773642Not him, but 2 backline crusaders jangling was the most effectiveness I had from crusaders.
>>743770728it changed too much, if you never played the original you might like it, but if you did play 1st game you'll notice its inferior
>>743771642Lolno.They sold the IP to Gearbox. Gearbox then did Returns to cash in. menawhile, the hopoo devs got hired by valve to make a risk of rain mode for deadlock.
>>743770728Didn't try kingdoms, but each run is a fucking slog. One full game can take around 2 hours. And I really hate to play Slay the Spire type of campaign not in one sitting.
>>743773593I forgot that part. It's been a while since I paid attention to the notes and stuff.
>>743773218Combat items would be a good addition. I would say the token system, but it'd too drastic of a change imo.
>>743773669I will not accept that as a justification for shit like this
I began in humility, but my ambition was limitless. Who could have divined the prophetic import of something as unremarkable... as a twitch in the leg of a dead game?
Any tips for kingdoms? I cleared the first 3 bosses of the normal mode but I want to take a break
>>743774080Even mods that try to act all serious are so fucking horny. Black Reliquary, large serious mod that people call “real DD2” and this is what it looks like. A whole fucking faction of enemies consists of naked muscular women and femboys.
>>743772748Unironically he just fucking hated him because he was seething so badly at some random commoner for having the AUDACITY to live a simple and happy life, while the Ancestor was a massive thrill seeker who kept doing worse and worse shit to reach the same contentment. So basically the Ancestor was being a petty bitch.
>>743747867https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go5i8tHX510
>>743774279Don't. It's a complete abortion of a game mode. Play for like 8 turns and then restart before it hemorrhages pus and shit. TRUST ME.
>>743774615Really? What about it is so terrible?
>>743774685It's new. New = bad
>>743747867those characters aren't even good...
>>743774450I remember someone made a picture of one of facility managers in this mod with tits so big they were laying on a table with seals on those honkers.That's what you get when your main sprite guy is the one who made Omenseeker
>>743774771Duelist is wonky but Runaway is god tier gameplay design. I hope she gets good synergies.
>>743773050Horror, dark fantasy, and sexuality are all intrinsically linked. It's why a lot of women have a fascination with true crime or slasher fics (and why a lot of them are so into Dead by Daylight or are sexually attracted to Jason). I'm not going to get into the nature of dark fantasy as "GOBLIN RAPE LMAO" either, because I don't think that's necessarily important to how DD gets sexualized, but it does demonstrate how that aspect of horror and peril is often linked with sex. It's also just that modding communities in general tend to be horny, which exacerbates it.
>>743774847Here is how their classes are described on the steam page:>The Runaway is a position-flexible damage dealer utilizing a unique Burn damage type with high synergy for teams that like to utilize Stuns and Pull/Knockback/Shuffle effects.>The Duelist is a complex damage dealer that dances between the party’s ranks, able to freely maintain Riposte while alternating between her two combat stances, Defensive and Aggressive. Proper planning of the Duelist’s future turns is key to mastering her playstyle and maximizing her potential!
>>743753023I don't believe you.
>>743774841>main sprite guy is the one who made OmenseekerIt explains some things, but it doesn't explain why there are so many femboys and oiled-up men
>>743775059Synergies with the most broken team comps in the game? Sounds cool.Again HWM just does riposte much, much better than the Duelist ever did. They better buff the shit out of her, DD is not a game for setups.
>>743772907he didn't really doom the world to be fair to him even if he really doesn't deserve itthe world was doomed from its startthe ancestor of this, our family of man, will wake up and wipe the slate clean sooner or later whether some dickhead is poking around where it's slumbering or not
>>743775059Adding Duelist to DD1 is such fucking joke. Stance change mechanic had been overused in mods and a more interesting version of the Duellist (The Thorn) was created two years before DD2 was even announced. I just can't take seriously a character who just has defensive and offensive stance, especially after seeing modded characters with 5 stances, stance bar, or stances that change only under very specific conditions.
>>743772532Yep that's fucking Oliver from FE9, that's hilarious. What does he do?
I really need to get my ass back in gear for mods, a proper fire dot opens up a ton of possibilities
>>743775879Support/Heal with additional healing against birds and a bit of tank
>>743776085Flavorful as fuck since he has a bird fetish in FE9.
>>743775879Fuck herons (+10 stress for the rest of party)
Can I say I don't like how they gave an upbeat and hopeful ending to the second game?It just feels like they saw all the people whining about how they didn't really win the day as big heroes and everything is doomed to fall to ancient beings from beyond the stars who walked the world first in the grimdark lovecraftian game in the first and threw them a bone.
>>743772380Indeed it is and he plays awesome. You got your life steal, your heal over time, slience, riposte and blight spell and a big nuke if you are low on life. Basically three different ways to play him.>Pure Healer with support>Attacker build up front>Mixed healer in the middleHe has so much HP and because he always gets a HoT from using his heal, you don't much have to worry about him. His camp skills can increase your healing recieved as well, so any trinkets which further boost is are incredible. Silence shuts down any skill which uses sound as part of the attack, so things like Ghoul scream or chants for spells. Basically half of the stress attacks in the game and some healing. Dude is busted.
>>743747867>Nigger LARPing as whiteNo, thanks.
>>743775957FUCK those crab niggers. I hate them so much it's unreal.
>>743776531Second game in the series is fanfiction.Many such cases.
My pleas were heard and the mod manager actually works. I no longer have to manually sort through hundreds of mods. The only thing missing for my happiness is a more user-friendly in-game character menu so I don't have to scroll through hundred of characters.
>>743777378Makrura are Crayfish, technically. I had to cut the mini-boss version I was working on because his gimmicks were negatively affecting the designs of the other enemies, so he's indefinitely on the shelf.
>>743774847>>743775059Finally, the Weald will not be as bullshit because I can burn those fucking mushrooms.
>>743770728the best part of 1 was the cool 2d art and 2 didn't have it, there i said it
I like 2. The combat is chef's kiss.
>>743777954>on the shellfish
>>743749950Why's he getting mad at her, those half naked niggas are right outside the church.
>>743750839They have canon names?
>>743772075>>743772748>>743773351 Steven could fix him
>>743778573>>743761807
>>743753023>the new DLC is a tranny character who "switched gender" by dropping a guillotine on his pee pee.
Why is it that indie devs absolutely suck at making sequels?
>>743779038Everyone does.Look up "second product syndrome".
>>743779038They have exactly one good idea. It's the same thing as musical one hit wonders.
>>743769442>Eldritch hate tangelos>Messes with their ipalipium
>>743779087But Mass Effect 2 was the best Mass Effect.
>>743765641Mostly I just my own changes, like something closer to No More Heroes.I also changed the whole torch dynamic and Resolve Levels and stats, basically Resolve Levels just make your characters take less stress.There's also lvl 3+ enemies versions for lvl 1 on the game files, so that was easy, also changed the inventory size so you have to choose between supplies or loot.What I really wanted though is to make endless dungeons, and just delve into them as far as I can, I made some pretty long ones, where you can reach the objective fast but they're not really endless. I wanted the feel of having to really go deep for better loot and an option to skipping weeks but each time you do the missions get thougher.To address the smaller inventory I made so that most curious return your items (75% chnce wish it could be different by your party composition) as if you didn't "use" your key or shovel but rather they had a chance to break.
>>743778634yeahAbomination = BigbyAntiquarian = JosephineArbalest = MissandeiBounty Hunter = TardifCrusader = ReynauldDuelist = SaharFlagellant = DamianGrave Robber = AudreyHellion = BoudicaHighwayman = DismasHoundmaster = WilliamJester = SarmentiLeper = BaldwinMan-at-Arms = BarristanMusketeer = MargaretOccultist = AlhazredPlague Doctor = ParacelsusRunaway = BonnieShieldbreaker = AmaniVestal = Junia
>>743779038People think they always have to one up themselves/do something different for it to be a success.That people get bored of things they already like.But really people just want more of what they already like.And a lot of creators don't understand this.Once an audience is established and stable, just give them more of what they want.You literally print money with this.
>>743779334>the writers were Fables fanscringe
>>743779334>Tardno he fucking isn't delete this*snort*
>>743779424Giving the cattle what they want is the death of art. No self respecting creator would ever do this. Only hacks and sell outs.
>>743770838But terraria literally has a failed tower defense game
>>743779447iirc he's named after either a dev or a dev's family member
>>743779334From where you took Houndmaster, since he is still not in DD2?
>>743779520I didn't imply you could only ever make one thing forever.Just don't change something that's already successful that people like.Go make something else new and leave the old stuff people enjoy as is.
>>743770728>removed the dungeons>removed the ability to explore shit and backtrack >removed secret areas>removed the city building >removed the stagecoach>removed the ability to build individual heroes>takes FUCKING forever to unlock all the skills>runs take too long>boring bosses, don't remember shit about any of them anymore>crusader is a DLC character because fuck you>academic is lame and gay
>>743779543one that never came close to release and was handled by third party companies
>>743779597Every class has a default name in DD1
>>743779597In the first game, there is a file with all their names. >>743779447Curiously in DD2, he is the only hero who has a randomized name. Everyone else has their default name.
>>743779597there's a "starting roster" file in the scripts folder with their canon names
>>743747867How about mod tools that aren't absolute dogshit? Oh wait, that's not possible because RHS, in their infinite wisdom, decided to save skeleton files in a proprietary format that only works with a specific version of a single program; so there won't ever be easy modding.
>>743781757Have you tried asking AI for help?
>>743781757>modding Darkest Dungeon is hard!>that's why there's seven billion mods for the game!
>>743747959No, but /v/ is literally full of people who make shit up 24/7 so it's not surprising what most of this thread has become.
>>743781937lol>>743781996Spoken like someone who's never tried it, let alone published a mod. Doing anything involving skins is annoying, and making your own custom skeleton is an absolute nightmare. You know what game has absolutely atrocious modding support? Total War Medieval 2. It took 5 years for Total War Warhammer to have model swaps, it took until this year for custom sound effects, Total War Warhammer first released in 2016. You think San Andreas had any kind of modding tools? The fact that any of these games have as many mods as they do is a testament, to how incredible their modding communities are, it doesn't have anything to do with the games themselves. At least the Black Reliquary guys said they're working on better modding tools, which hopefully can be used for the base game.
>>743782217I know Red Hook cant afford a shill budget so you are actually defending the sequel for no compensation kek
>>743774279You do not ask DD2 questions in this thread.
>>743782416I don't like either game. I'd permaban all Darkest Dungeon discussion and anyone who posts about it if I were able.
>>743782373>Doing anything involving skins is annoyingthat's why there's seven billion skin mods and they're the most common type of modbecause it's practically impossible
>>743747867Did DD2 flop? I didn't even bother since Crusader wasn't in it.
>>743757683>it's not even wokeYou don't consider the whole "we'll give the white characters brown alt skins but we refuse to lighten up the brown characters in any alt skins" retardation to be woke?
>>743782607Crusader has been there for more than 2 years.
>>743782537>because it's practically impossibleI never said they were? And the vast majority of custom skins are just that, skins; redraws of sprites, there's no custom skeletons involved. You have no idea what you're talking about. Go on, try making a custom skeleton.
I will try this game again. I really like the aesthetics and the overall story of things, but holy shit it was unfair at times. And I'm used to unfair as fuck games.
>>743772748>you remember our venerable Ancestor? A huge cunt for literally no reason?
>>743773461nah he was just misunderstood you clearly didnt get it
>"ruin has come to our family">both the opening and closing line of the game>it doesn't mean your bloodline>it means humanity>you are stuck in the same hopeless situation as the ancestor was when he ate a bullet to try to escapethe problem with DD2 is that they couldn't top that
Is DD2 even set in the same world as the first?
>>743782851Mod it to make it less unfair >>743770997
>>743783475Never seen a game where the devs were so strident on patching any semblance of fun out of it.
>>743782416Red Hook is owned by the DBD devs now so they're running on Canada Bux plenty of money for shills there
>>743783475I will try, it was actually that anon that made me think of trying it again.
>>743783350Yes, you can find a portrait of the ancestor in the game.
>>743747959It's the EGS curse
>>743774279I'm playing through the Beastman campaign atm, you'll want to start stocking up on lanterns when the escalation level reaches level 2. Before that, you can usually make from one destination to another without worrying about the light running out as long as you don't run away from anything, bully the refugees, or do anything else to make the light go out quicker. But after that you'll have to start worrying about your light.
>>743783934i never distribute my dudes correctly
>>743779424>>743779087Lost Planet 2 exists, it was more and then some and it was so much better for it.
>>743772181I'm convinced he did that in order to somehow override the Heart's eldritch conciousness with his own by the power of his unfathomable dickishness.
>>743756536Is the crusader looking dude a modded class or a skin for the crusader?
A little late when there are gorillions mods with more interesting character, and look better especially
>>743782416/v/ is full of bots who also happen to be contrarian shills
>>743770728Yes it was a complete failure to understand the appeal of Darkest Dungeon's gameplay (and its characters, for that matter). It had an even worse understanding of what makes a rogue-like gameplay loop fun. Runs are lengthy 2 hr+ slogs with minimal variance when ideally they should be 30-60 minutes long, easy to do in a session. Games like this can go longer, but at that point variance becomes really important to keep players engaged. DD2 doesn't do that, the biggest decision you make occurs at the very start with party composition and animal companion. Once you have settled on your teams strategy, nothing is going to happen that will ever really shake you from it short of character deaths which are effectively run ending. Skill upgrades are a limited resource, you do not have enough to effectively waste them by trying to cover multiple builds per hero. Unlike DD1, where you could upgrade all skills on a hero to swap them around between fights, or bring multiple of the same hero that emphasis different aspects of their kit. You could literally tailor heroes to excel at fighting specific regions or enemies, in DD2 they have to be boring generalists because you're going through multiple regions and enemies in one run. Once you grind up a good roster in DD1, you can enjoy multiple dungeons while experimenting with wildly different team compositions and trinkets in the time it takes you to do one DD2 run you are stuck for hours using the same heroes, pressing the same buttons, feeling your brain fall out. Because of the gameplay format you don't even care about losing heroes, I'd be fucking depressed if I lost a stacked hero in DD1 to my misplay, in DD2 you just go next and they're there again. It's not your lucky nicknamed HWM that's special compared to the others on your roster, it's just the HWM.
>>743748134I wonder how long of a break Xelsword is going to take once he finishes his project to sexify the entire game.Bro's been slaving away at this for years.I want him to pornify Black Reliquary in his style instead of the ugly semi-RH style they use that looks pretty rough with their fetish characters.
>>743782723>paid dlcjews, all of them
>>743770997>>743771776>>743772516Do you need the DLC to use these?
permanent upgrade in DD1 >increase starting level>skill effectiveness >utility facilitiespermanent upgrade in DD2>add more garbage in random loot pool>increase HP by 5% (about 2-3 HP in most case)>resist death door +3%
>>743771776>>743772516>"mods" that just make the game easier
>>743786068why would you not have the DLC? it goes on sales constantlythe Ancestral Edition is ten bucks on GOG rn
>>743786426ur mom is five bucks on backpage rn faglord
>>743747867thats pretty cool. hopefully they arent completely game breaking but i assume they will be
>>743782217DD2 literally couldn't flop, Epic Games payed for the entire development cost up front to snub Steam for a year. It couldn't fail, and didn't need to succeed either. Red Hook literally got paid to make a steaming shit, paid again by selling it to their fanbase,then paid a 3rd time by selling their turned-out shit hole to the fucks that made Dead By Daylight. Then they tried to pretend there was some sort of pragmatic, ethics-driven rational behind it beyond the fact that they're whores cashing out.
>>743772339Flagellant is dope. Shows up as an antagonist in Vestal's and Abomination's back stories and in his own he tells death to fuck off and she does it for free, not even for a 100$. Guy doesn't even have trauma or anything, he just hurts everyone and feels good.
>>743747867>play DD1>get to champion difficulty and clear a few stages>usually get burnt out by this point and take a break>come back and have forgotten everything and what i was working on for each character and shit>just start over>rinse repeatthis has happened like 4 times by now, ive never actually attempted the darkest dungeon
>>743747867>they gave up on the second game and are just going back to making DLC for the first oneembarrassing
>>743786068"Yes" is the only answer I can give you. I can't check every single one of them to tell you which is and isn't. I've had all the DLC for as long as I can remember and I highly recommend you get all of them, both to avoid issues with mods and because it's definitely worth it for extra content.>>743786272Just don't use those anon. Many of those mods do jackshit about difficulty and just give you more content. I use them because I've clocked a lot of time in this game already and it hardly matters to me anymore.
What are some good DD clones?
>>743747867>More black people.Pass.
Major case of dev missing the point, they thought difficulty is what make people stick around the first game, but it's meta progression that you slowly reaching the final stage. DD1 is a cake walk as soon as you know what you are doing.Meanwhile in DD2 there are so much garbage stacking against you, enemy remove half of your team hp in one turn because it's AoE spamfest. Also imagine playing subway surfer between Slay the Spire node to get 3 golds
>>743787191There aren't any.
You guys weren't kidding that the mod menu in the game is garbage
>>743787817I got 100+ mods there. It's utter garbage but you get used to it.Also don't get 100+ mods because it will break
>>743787913I've added most of the ones in anon's list and now I'm checking out some classes. Btw the Aesthete is really from Fire Emblem 9, the author also did Legion. Both are funny characters. Besides both, I'm adding fucking Guan Yu lmao
>>743787191Iratus
>>743788064he said *good* DD clones
I like DD2
>>743788307she would not do this
>>743788221Iratus is good
>can we have game 1 but more?>noooo you can't stifle with my creativity game 2 can be totally different making the same game will make it stale>The rest is history
>>743747959GO WOKEBE HUMILIATED
>>743787913also do classes count towards that? They don't seem incompatible wiht anything
>>743788836Only the wacko class that add more than vanilla mechanic tend to bug the game
>>743784126Yeah, it's kind of hard to juggle all the sieges so I usually just opt to play with one of the smaller maps. With a larger map, you'll want to make sure your have recruited militias at the various inns as well as give defending heroes some flares in advance for reinforcements. >>743787221Since it's easier to make reskin mods in DD1 than 2, someone will probably make a white Duelist mod like they did with Arbalest. >>743788307Me too.
>>743770509>>743756536Is there any mods that make those big titties barbarians as playable character?
>>743788836None of the classes I listed here >>743770997Will ever break with each other. Never have to me. I can't guarantee any other though.Marvin Seo's collection is pretty vanilla and awesome at the same time. The Sisters are an amazing concept and probably my favorite class of them all. The Seraph is also amazing because of her>"Oh so you think you have me huh?"Mechanic. She got reworked at some point and became what she is now, before she was pretty boring but the dude did an excellent number on her.Out of the others the Monk is cool but again, can feel overpowered.Cataphract dancing from front row to back line is very satisfying to useAnd only recently I installed Commandant+Shinobi. They weren't up to my standards at first because I'm very vanilla when it comes to classes but they are pretty ok.
Everything points to the devs never even knowing why DD1 caught on in the first place so DD2 was a fumble.
Goy will be like >nooo the art style doesn't fit!!
>>743788051Guan Yu is fucking awesome. If you get Red Hare, you can sweep up enemies really well. Remember though that after the second kill, you'll have -100% damage, so use a support move instead. I like his straight damage build, but you can also run him as a support to buff peoples damage and de-stress. Very versatile unit.
>>743779804Pretty much this
>>743779804>game is called Darkest Dungeon 2>but they removed the dungeons
>>743787817Indeed, good thing the next update is fixing it and giving us a mod manager that actually works for having a hundred mods.
A lot of class mods seem op until you realize they get outclassed by a leper with a focus ring or just regular plague doctor.
>>743790367Also monk can feel overpowered but he is still a dodge based glass cannon for the most part.Here's a webm of one of mine getting fucking one tapped.
>DD1 still have thrice the playersSomeone in Redhook must be really pissed
>>743749493Its entirely because of the Black Reliquary autists. Their mod got so ambitious they convinced the devs to upgrade the game to help them.
>>743791263Darkest Dungeon 1 had one dungeon.>castle ruins>pig cellars>fungus woods>fish cave>dungeon>plus a courtyard and a farm
>>743779239nice
>>743786148>positive trait in DD2+15% chance if in the back and hit by a crit while blighted to add 1 dodge token (Can fail to trigger if not at 20 friendship with another hero)>negative trait in DD2Take +75% stress at all times, fuck you
I'm pretty certain they didn't create real sequel cause they know mods will mog them easily.
>>743791630>mods will mog them easily>the mods in question
>>743765232What did they change that made the game worse?-t. EU4 newfag
>>743791320There are some modded classes that can do some pretty funky shit. Or just simply hit like a truck for little investment. The Kamen Rider Delta mod has you able to do 50 damage at level 1. The creator is unashamed that it is stupid OP, but Kitazaki is a psycho and will always randomly attack your party, so if you don't mind your guys getting dusted to be able to Lucifer's Hammer once a dungeon, then go for it. Aside from that, we have Milkmaid being able to heal as a free action, which removes stun. Or the Messiah being able to use her Sniper Rifle to get permanent increase to damage every use she kills with it. I had it doing 100 damage on a long dungeon. One of the best ones I had though was the Matriarch dragon hitting someone with a 100 damage blight. Honestly the most "balanced" modded classes that I have played with was the Dungeon Meshi crew.
>>743791703can't forget the mostly naked femboy
>>743747867I'm not complaining since I use some of them, but why are so many DD1 mods Chinese? It's not even a Don't Starve situation (that game's also got a fuckton of Chinese mods) where they get Steam marketplace items for playing
>>743791983They seem to fucking love the game a lot and have a lot of interesting ideas. I'm just glad that the ones I'm interested in have them try to use an auto translate to English. The one I follow just put out the Kamen Rider Omega Amazon mod. His next one is going to be Alex Mercer. I just wish he wouldn't make them so absolutely over powered, even his depowered Kuuga version has him able to hit for 30 at resolve 0 with only one punch and kick combo since it has like 70% base crit chance. Not even getting into if you resolve into Rising, cause then you are hitting a 70 crit twin kick in Amazing Mighty. Not that I'm really complaining much, I love to see Pic Related every time I do it.
>>743747867How difficult is the game? And Is this game similar to roguelikes like Hades in the sense that after each run you can buy upgrades/get slightly stronger in a way or is it entirely knowledge based, like theoretically you coule beat in in your first playthrough if you knew everything (and had good rng)
>>743791329Everything is a one tap if you get 4-spider ambushed.
>>743792335It isn't THAT difficult. The real issue is the first couple dungeons, since you can easily have a few bad misses turn into a complete wipe. Once you know what the classes can do and what you should be doing to take out whatever enemies you face, you'll have an 80% chance of victory in most circumstances. Once you level up and get a bunch of trinkets, you'll have a 90% The real problem is just that if you have a string of bad luck and lose a good team, you might find yourself with no money and no way to recover. Playing on Bloodmoon also means you have a time limit on top of a death limit. So don't just send your teams out to die for nothing.
>>743792335There is no "losing" in this game, if your guys die you can just get new ones, its part of the game
I still remember when the DD ending mindbroke tons of retards who never read lovecraft before and thought an Eldritch god is something you just kill for good instead of just briefly putting it back to sleep and buying humanity a little more time
>>743792787>instead of just briefly putting it back to sleepMost of the times not even that. "Killing Eldritch Gods" is fan fiction of fan fiction.
>>743791703>>743791890This is exactly why I curate the shit out of the mods I use.This crap is not ok, it doesn't fit the game at all.
>>743791983Any game that easily mod with 2D model will attract asian drawfags, Slay the Spire is the same
>>743790762>errrrm if you don't like content that clashes heavily with the style and atmosphere of media you like ur gay!!!Making animu and waifu mods for fucking DD is retarded
>>743793164It's overhaul mod that change setting entirely, you are some dickhead robbing sandniggers
>>743792787I think they could have kept that whole aspect without resetting your hamlet back to zeroYou built it all up, "beat" the eldritch thingy, and in the span of ten seconds your hamlet literally crumbles for no apparent reason. Everyone working there and all your dudes should at least be celebrating since they probably dont know the truthYou can chalk it up to time taking it's toll and (You) going crazy from the truth, but the cutscene was just too short to illustrate it betterAlso you just restart with your boys Reynauld and Dismas again anyway and they most likely died on your run so I dunno if time ever passed or the whole thing was just inside your head or what
>>743793284That's cool and all but why does she need gigantic tits?
>>743793364Why wouldn't she need gigantic honkers?
>>743792335The difficulty comes from mitigating risk. When you start as blind newbie, you are expected to learn from your failings.The dungeons are divided to 3 tiers. 1st level is what 1st level is. As your heroes grow in levels you can upgrade their skills and equipment. Tier 2 heroes refuse to go tier 1 quests. Tier 3 heroes refuse to go tier 1 and 2 quests.Instead of keeping one A team, you need to spread them so you can do tier 1 dungeons, like for example first instances of each region bosses need to be first beaten in tier 1 before tier 2 bosses unlock and so on.Heroes carry disease and quirks and taken stress from dungeons. They can be cured but it takes money and they won't be available for 1 quest. Sometimes it's just better to kick them from roster instead of spending money to cure them.Characters have 2 trinket slots. You will mainly find low level trash stuff but eventually you build up collection of bigger and better trinkets and the 2 trinkets you give to your hero usually help you dedicate to certain builds like for example Stun boosting trinkets will have you rely on Stuns more and Bleed trinkets to bleed and so on.You take health and stress damage. Health is easier restore with heals and food but stress damage requires rarer means so the very basic random encounter usually has you try deal with stress dealers as fast as you can and only after they are gone you mow down the physical attacker enemies.
>>743771460Damn this might make me play the game
Good thread anon, loved talking about this game again after so many years.
>>743794413Have fun, the birds aren't for everyone, but they are well put together. Trophy Hunter is crazy and basically you playing as Crocodillian. Have fun doing crazy crits with Apex Predator and stress healing like a mother fucker. Matriarch is one of the best healers in the modded classes and can deal some sick blight damage, pair her with other blighters for a fun time, like PD or Exterminator. The Tempest is your best support and can heal almost as well as Matriarch. I once had a HoT for 20 from him by pairing him up with the Crystalline Herald and getting +healing recieved and that wasn't even a crit. If you like to live dangerously, then you can use his Power Surge, does sick damage at the cost of his health. Paired with the skill that gives you a HoT for killing enemies, you might actually get your health back afterwards. All of them have a lot of different builds.
>>743770728Yesone long ass run with roguelite elements is pure shit and kills any and all fun you couldve had with trinkets and team comp like in the first game and you're essentially cucked into picking the exact same team comps because anything else is a massive waste of time
>>743793364Lead artist is a porn artist iirc
>>743770728it tried to solve DD1 being a really frustrating and unfun game sometimes. but if you remove that its just boring and not really DD anymore.
>>743795770It's shwig/s-purple from /here/
>>743785514ClassThe Squire>>743789659Wildlander Ripperkin ClassWildlander Hellion Skin>>743794413They're really fun. Resonant and Prefect are some of the most unique classes I can remember. One gains and spends stress as a resource, while the other changes the rules of the game (fuck it EVERYONE gets a mark!)
>>743770728>sequel to Game 1, Game 2>plays literally nothing like Game 1Yes.Fffffuck innovation and "keeping it fresh", just give me <good game> with more content and more new things.
>>743747867>let's inject our shitty characters from the new game into the good game we made decades ago
>>743747867thats not that dark
>>743752168>fans of something don't want a new thing they never asked for as the sequel to their old thingfrostpunk 2
>found out about the DLC on lustiest lair first and /v/ secondI really have no real sources for vidya news
>>743798416what?
>>743798667I seen darker
I was considering trying DD2 again so I checked the dev news. Nothing but a few hotfixes since last October. Are they done with it? Is it better now?
>>743798687Yeah your mom asshole
>>743798151crazy its been 32 years already...
>>743770838Didn’t they release starbound and totally fuck it up? I liked some of the ideas in it, but it was pretty average. I was also a real summerfag back then and my taste wasn’t exactly refined
>>743747867I always assumed that the crooked one is the gypsy nigga from the first one
>>743798765Different devs
>>743747959>Switched to 3d modelsAlienating the goon/mod community has been a financial disaster.
>>743747867how come they dont just add a new ACTUAL area to the game? crimson court fucks everything when you go into it and i dont think anyone actually goes to that one infinite place i forgot the name of. why cant we get an alternative or two for the 4 main areas?
>>743752168>that fans of something don't want a new thing they never asked for as the sequel to their old thingToejam & Earl 2 First game was a Roguelike, second game was a platformer. Publisher interference
>>743798765they didn't make starbound, they did make another 2D pixel shit that flop
>>743747867I wish they would just update the engine so it doesn't fucking die if you install more than a couple mods.
>>743798713They did a massive overhaul of each class last year which greatly improved the gamefeel.
>>743798905They did that last year
>>743799024Wait really? So I can install as many mods as I want and it will work now?Damn, time for a replay then. Thanks for the great news.
>>743799057Yeah, I have 230 mods and it works fine. Well, except for the UI which just isn't designed to handle that many mods and characters.
>>743747867Didnt VA for Narratir die? How are they going to make more voice lines for new characters and buildings?
>>743799617Wayne June explicitly gave them permissions to train and use an AI of him.
>>7437707282 was a huge improvement, only 5apples complain about anything in 2 while ignoring the godawful grindslog that is the final half of a DD1 campaign. The only thing actually wrong with 2 are the skill unlocks.
>>743793364Not even the biggest tits in the game
>>743793364Hell yea.
>>743793284is it "Black Reliquary" couse everyone is black?
>>743747959Putting it on Epic first killed all momentum and by the time the game came to steam the core mechanics were already locked in and no one could give them proper feedback on what to adjust or change. It's getting another expansion next year, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's their final attempt at a hail mary since no one fucked with Kingdoms.
>>743799762>2 was a huge improvement
>>743747867>>743747959I thought I was seeing things kekDD1 really was lightning in a bottle
>>743804343To have seized that incandescent and mercurial inspiration, that blinding, heaven-sent idea and confined it, however briefly, within a prison of code and numbers; a triumph fleeting, luminous, and perilously volatile.
>>743804446A SINGULAR SHITPOST
>>743761613It was clearly implied>lips = vaginal lips
>>7437707282 wasn't bad, mechanically speaking it's actually an improvementProbably was it didn't offer anything other roguelites didn't. DD1 was unique in the intimacy and management aspects. DD2 was just a combat rush for the most partDD1 was fun because you got attached to members, built them up, lost them, built up the town, managed stress and sickness and quirks and trickets etc.You could do money run, or progress runs, or upgrade runs or just training runs. One aspect of DD1 that was the genesis for it's creation was the devs asking "what would it be like to really dungeon crawl" and this closeness is why there's no screen change between exploring and combat. DD2 just forgets that and you do a carriage ride after every thing
>thread is still upniceYesterday I got the Wraith, really cool class. And yes, I have a feel Monk is busted.Also my characters still get stressed as fuck lmaoAny other class recommendations?
>>743800615The game's downfall like that is completely on them for grabbing Tim Sweeney's bag of money and not being able to read that EGS was never going to take off.
>>743807671If they had zero faith in their work, it makes sense to go for safe income.
>>743807743If they had zero faith the game was gonna be a profit like that, then they should have never made the game to begin with instead of making a minimum viable product for Tim's grab bag.
>>743798713>Are they done with it? Is it better now?I think the Kingdom's mode (basically they blended DD1 and DD2 to make DD1.5) and the hero overhauls made it a lot more enjoyable for me. They are planning on releasing some more DLC next year, but they haven't announced what it will actually be. >>743799750Yes, but Red Hook announced that they wouldn't use AI so they will probably reuse old lines or have to find a new VA (I'm guessing the former.)
>>743747959Yes, just like Payday 3 and Darktide
>>743747867That's actually hilarious. When are they adding the undead flagellant?
>>743805538i don't get very far in my own challenge runs (random hero start mod + stukov prison break). but my recent favorites are soulforged, guru, phantasma, estranged (director's cut), judge, ringmaster, fox of calamity, pureheart, lawbringer, dreamer, ironclad, silent, white priestess, dark priest, sibyl, and martyr. lots of good chinese mods get shared on loverslab too, if you don't mind nerfing their stats and skills yourself.estranged has the coolest flavor i've seen since the red girl from daughters of the fours that can enter a 1v1 riposte duel to the death (one enemy gets 99 turns, she gets likes -90% riposte damage that slowly ramps up with each hit, and the rest of her party gets stealth). estranged has a blight nuke, but it expends her stinger and debuffs her. if you want to use it frequently, you need to alternate it and another skill that "kills" her and replaces her with another drone, complete with the death icon and sfx and stressing out the party. doesn't clear debuffs/dots for balance reasons ig but it's a nice illusion.
>>743773050Who's that bitch on the left?
>>743747867humiliating
>>743747867>Includes new items and areas tooThey should've waited to make that announcement before putting it up on the store page, now everyone is gonna think it's just 2 characters
>>743805538Just keep getting everything listed on >>743770997My personal recommendation is The Sisters and The Seraph.
>>743810714Where did you get that idea?
S-purple might be a gigajew but I like all of his class mods
How the fuck they are going to make more shit for this game with the narrator dead?
>>743811473YTP existing dialog
>>743810473Thank you, I will check them all.>>743810748I got them all. Still waiting to see the Sisters, it seems like a really cool class.
>>743749656>first game has niggbalest>they made darkskin alternate looks for all the white characters but no white skin alternate looks for the darkies>shieldbreaker as dlcL M A O
>>743813076Shieldbreaker, Antiquarian, and Occultist all get a pass from me because their outfits imply they traveled to the setting from a far off land. Arbalest and the Duelist are the bullshit ones acting if negros were a normal sight in a European-style setting. They also made the Leper black, but that's still not as bad as the other two because he seems like a "far off land" type character like the occultist.
>>743813076I always use the Shindol mod for her.I don't like negros in my games.
>>743814069>Shindol modpost it. cant find it on Steam workshop
>>743814480It's not entirely DD style, though there are other white arbalest mods for that.https://litter.catbox.moe/2jmh1qzv9fndcvwf.zip
>>743814868>Visible EyesHard pass
>>743815530There are a few with shaded eyes on the Nexus, just search for Arbalest.I also seem to recall someone made an edit of the Shindol skins with shaded eyes but I can't find that anymore.
>>743814868thx
Are they giving up on DD2?Also who is narrating the new lines for the DD1 DLC or do you think they've just recycled stuff from DD2 (weird for a game to have recycled stuff from it's sequel)
>>743747959We should have seen it coming when even the DLCs for the first game only made it less fun to play than vanilla.Red Hook never had any idea what made people like Darkest Dungeon and they made it a good game by accident.
>>743817676They say there is going to be a DLC for DD2, but there aren't any details for it yet. I was hoping for them to add the musketeer, but adding new heroes will be harder now than Wayne has passed away.
>>743799750Why are old folks so enamored with AI?
>>743820349I'm sure that if you look on youtube you can find a least a couple passable soundalikes doing impressions
>>743820990The main reasons to be inherently opposed to AI require you to ascribe to modern far left ideology, which is extremely pervasive in young people but far less so for older gentlemen.
>>743820990Because they realize the cultural impact that their voices have on things and that their legacy can outlive them. It is THE one thing that I will say AI in games should be used for. Just look at the Skyrim voice mod stuff. Being able to actually make new dialog is important and we can't just reuse or resplice old dialog and make it fit with what we want. Only some mods have been fortunate enough to have talented voices to fill the gaps.
Fit perfectly, starting from the best>The Thrall>The Falconeer>The Exorcist>The Judicator (Black Reliquary Only)Almost There>Duchess Really good concept but S-Purple artstyle make it stand out too much, there's a way to do horny with DD-Style but that's not it.>Monk (Rebalanced)Artstyle is perfect, but lacks theme, and more importantly there's no gritty to the character, that could easily be solved by taking one of his arms or making him blind and giving the guy an actual semblance of visual storytelling.>The SlayerWith the advent of the thing from the stars, he's surprisingly good fit, but he just makes it too much of a power fantasy, it could be reworked into something more grounded to the setting.>The VigilanteLacks som polishing, but it's almost there, it feels like he just needed a little bit of work.>>The Duelist Made by Dragon's. Better concept than the official duelist. Much like the Vigilante, it just lacks some polishingAll others either don't fit, are too similar to the official classes or are just straight bad.
>>743820990Wayne was actually initially against AI. The only reason he changed his mind is that he was literally dying at that point and he thought it would make things easier for Redhook.
>>743821096Yeah but if he doesn't sound EXACTLY like Wayne I'm sure some faggot on here will go "He doesn't sound like the original at all! Were they even trying?"
>>743821124>dislike slop means you must be a leftie>>743820990It's because they're old and often don't care about what shit they consume. It's like the old people who just watch episode 3450 of some soap opera that's written for the lowest common denominatorThey were already watching content farm shit click bait, now instead of Chinese and Indians faking shit, it's Chinese and Indians using AI
>>743823993Try reading my post.>inherently opposed to AI Disliking specific implementations of AI is perfectly fine.There are many perfectly reasonable arguments against various types of AI.Disliking it wholesale just because it is AI is ideology.
>>743814868
>enable lewdest lair>disable DLCit's darkest orgasming time
>>743813076>>743815530Does my mod no longer work?I haven't checked in the past half-decade.
>>743822775Huh, so you think some of Marvin's heroes don't fit? I had no problem with any of them... except the Sybil I suppose. It's a relatively recent addition he made for a Vtuber that paid him money, go figure.
Never played DD1 but I like mods.Any necessary mods? Any mods that make sure there are no niggers in my game?Balanced classes or whatever there is in the game?Also, loli mods?
>>743747867What's the point when Wayne June is no longer around to introduce them?
>>743829509Are the voice lines moddable in DD?If so, if they get someone who sounds similar, it should be quite easy to run them through an AI to make it sound perfect.Raw AI struggles with inflection and details, but working from a good base is much easier.A brief check showed there already exist voice models trained on WJ's voice.
>>743828659>>743770997
>>743828659>tell me what to download!press this magical button and just see what appeals to you, it isn't that hard
>>743828659>Necessary modsNot much is "necessary", you will pick something to smooth out what you consider a wrinkle in DD's gameplay loop. Like I have three trinket slots because I think it fits better, but to balance out the extra power of the characters, I add on extra enemies and more insane invasions. So the power swing can go either way.>Mods to remove niggersSure, easy to remove the browns. Plenty of skin mods for various heroes. You can also just not use those classes, they really aren't needed in the long run.>Balance changesThere are tons of reworks to the official classes, but I would say most of them miss the mark or overtune the classes into doing too much. For modded classes, 80% of them are fairly balanced.
>>743828659I think you would love this modhttps://www.google.com/search?q=estrogen&ie=UTF-8
>>743791263it kinda fits the story of the game >university scholar becomes frustrated with conventional science and philosophy because he believes they're incapable of explaining reality>befriends someone only known as the Protégé>who introduces him to the forbidden occult knowledge of the 5 sided crown (the stress symbol) >which turns out to be a symbol and conduit connected to the true structure of existence, a key that allows one to pierce the illusion separating humanity from the cosmic truth lurking beneath reality>they eventually reach The pair ultimately reach the Mountain(™), the metaphysical center of reality >there they perform a ritual that tears open existence itself >but instead of gaining enlightenment like they thought, they're opened up to humanity's fears, guilt, hatred, and self-destructive impulses are literally part of a cosmic entity>the Protégé kills his professor completing the symbol (the Iron Crown) after unleashing the apocalypse upon the mortal world>then becomes depressed and hides in his cabin which is the beginning of the gameyou travel to the areas the Protégé and the Scholar visited including The Mountain uncovering more about what they found as well as learning more about the characters you ride with. They gave each of them a name and a backstory which are actually pretty fun. It just takes forever to get all the abilities having to wait until you visit one of these specific towers the story and atmosphere are great imo, I like the idea of seeing the effect completing the Iron Crown has had on the world itself instead of it being exclusive to one place, but that's also its greatest weakness as each run takes way too long and there's way too much RNG involved
>>743832504>the real darkest dungeon was the one in your mind!!!no
>>743832658bugman
>>743827991Forgot the Seraph, she also fits perfectly.You know, after all this time, It's kinda surprising no one came with a Torchbearer themed Class, maybe now that they'll add burning dot to the game we will finally see one.
>>743828659>loli mods?srry but this thread is clearly infiltrated by those kinds of normies (?) who really love to gangstalk and mass report and troll us internet nerds nowadays. to you and me that's laughable, but i know how unstable some younger or poorer modders are, and i would rather not make another one commit suicide. iykyk
>>743747867>no new enemies>no new area>just two heroes and a hamlet districtKinda shit for a dlc desu
>>743837821They have had two DLCs that added a single hero.Well ok the Shieldbreaker adds her shitty snake nightmares which I have a mod to disable because go fuck yourself you PTSD suffering whore but that's about it.
>>743839556>which I have a mod to disable because go fuck yourself you PTSD suffering whoreSnakes aren't particularly dangerous. But I've gotten used to the fact that every camps can lead to a boss fight because of the mods.
I LOVE HAVING ALL MY FUCKING MODS BROKEN TO GET NICKLE AND DIMED AGAIN 10 YEARS DOWN THE LINE AHAHAHA
>>743839863>every camps can lead to a boss fight because of the mods.Fuck that. Preventing nighttime ambushes should at the very least stop those from happening.But this fucking whore ass bitch can ruin an entire quest because a snake rattled at her once when she was a kid, fuck you.
>>743839926Which mods are getting broken?
>>743840050He's talking about the fact that this "new DLC" might break mods again. As it has happened before in the past.It may or may not happen. But certain mods that affect all heroes globally or similar stuff will likely break.
>>743747959>>743750515>>743782416>>743804343We already know that DD2 is getting a DLC next year, faggots. I hate DD1fags.
I think I'm having an easier (and more fun) time with the mods and more fun with the new classes. Out of the four niggas in a row guys that appeared for me, Wraith, Sibyl, Seraph (all from the same author, coincidentally) and the FE duo (Legion and Oliver) are my favorites.Thanks a lot guys.also there is a lot of anime garbage that does not fit the game at all in the workshop as top downloads
>>743840198I'm glad I could help you enjoy one of my favorite games of all time anon.>SpoilerYeah, there is. What can you do...
>>743840009Won't it be too easy? It's been quite a while since I played without mods, but without all those random encounters and those bullshit battles the game would be way too predictable. Going into a dungeon knowing what you'll face and being prepared for anything doesn't sound all that interesting. It reminds me of a sequel where your success depends more on knowledge and meta progression than on adapting and trying to make the best of bad situations.
>>743747867this ip was never good
>>743747867>>743747959Second I didn't bother buying because lack of mods
>>743840198>all from the same author, coincidentallyMarvin Seo was the first to create a truly high-quality mod class and essentially set the standard that people are still trying to live up to today. Did he also work on DD2, or am I getting something mixed up?
>>743840265>Yeah, there is. What can you do...At least match the artstyle. There is a Guts that looks pretty good I mean, he fits by default but still, and someone even did Commando from ROR.
>>743840198>complaining about weeb things on the anime website
>>743841935That's not the issue.
