What went wrong? I thought this was supposed to save ninja gaiden series
>>743750328The little things https://youtu.be/sg9qOB8ab7E
>>743750328>What went wrong?>Team Ninja didn't make a Ninja Gaiden game.>Predictable results ensue.>*surprised pikachu face.jpg*I don't even think it's bad game per se, but it's too far from a real Ninja Gaiden game.
>>743750328I had fun with it, the game has nice tits.
>>743751125This post is a good example of why NG4 failed. NG fans are a bunch of spergs that will write a game off for not being -exactly- like what they envision, which in most cases is either NGB-2 or NG2-2.Pair that with the IP itself never having had particularly broad appeal and being a legacy IP, and its no surprise to see NG4 perform how it did.
no rachel, no buy
>>743751351based Ninja Gayden GODS having standards
>>743750328It was $70 and the franchise has not earned itself a reputation to justify being $70
>>743751556There's a fine line between having standards and being stubborn, NGfags fail to recognize that.
>>743751648The project was just doomed from the start without Itagaki let's be honestThey should have just let the old fuck come in and direct the game because then most NGfags would have pretended to love it or at least give it a chance
i played 4 first and it was an 8/102B is slightly better
>>743751793>then most NGfags would have pretended to love it or at least give it a chance100% true.It could be the exact same game with Itagaki's name stapled on, and it would have sold more on that alone.
needs a gaiden vacation spinoff
no Miji no buy
It's a really fun game and I boot it up occasionally to do combos,it's crazy what kind of stuff you can pull with such a variety of weapons and being able to switch on the fly
Ayane not playable
>>743751125Team Ninja can only make ARPGs now.
>>743750328>What went wrong?Microsoft's (lack of) marketing. It's a good game.
>>743750328It looks fun and I'm sure I'd enjoy it, I'm just not paying 85 dollars for it.
>>743752764
>>743753271Cheapskate bitch
>>743750328Maybe because they didn't make a NG game and released a Platinum slop instead?Removed the protagonist, removed everything that made NG, and bring only a tiny amount of fan service and call it a day.I'm glad this pos flopped. Deserved. And if this kills 3D character action games then so be it. Either you respect the fucking name of the game, or you can eat shit and die.
I'm glad it failed. It was made for fake Ninja Gaiden fans. Nobody asked for Platinum slop.
>$70>fully clothed shibari with some cleaveage is the most Microsoft would allow>Hero Shooter costume Ayane passed off and shilled as le sexy male gaze>Ayane not playable>Microsoft is publisher and no one wants to give money to MS>No Rachel>Twink MC no one asked for in a NInja Gaiden game
>>743751125It's so insane that these types of games died.You'd think that with the advancing technology, we'd have many more games like this. But every time they are failures or made with paper and chinks, so the production isn't there and they flop.I also blame fucking Souls crap too. More A-RPG rolling slop instead of guard / parry fast pace kino action. DMC also died because Itsuno retired.There's nothing else anymore. It's either action games with ugly anime waifus and gacha, or Souls slop. I'm so tired of this weak era of video games.
>>743750328Solid game, even better if they added her but somehow came up with the two masters instead
>>743750328Ninja Gaiden already died with 3. This is just pissing on its corpse.
>>743753271this
>>743751351>how dare fans want a game that resembles the previous gamesThey know what I'm willing to pay money for, not my problem.
>>743750328>ryu replaced by some gay ass fujobait>toned down sex appeal
>>743754460Show picture of "hero shooter costume ayane"
>>743754673>It's so insane that these types of games died.Its really not, character action was never massively popular to begin with.Facts are that most people really don't need or care for intricate input/combo systems and are well-served with a simpler set of light/heavy attacks paired with a couple of defensive options (eg. roll/block/parry). Add to that that those games generally have more to offer than just their combat, with a greater focus on narrative and player agency and everything else that you typically find in aRPGs, and its no surprise that character-action was subsumed by Soulslikes and other genres with third-person real-time combat.
You guys love hating this game, every week I always see this thread with the same posts and the same narrative. Maybe, just maybe you secretly like NG4
>>743750328They really thought they could get away with making a non-soulslike in 2025
>>743755497Despite how shit Nioh 3 is compared to 2 it's still leagues better than Ninja Gaiden 4.
>>743755497There's definitely room to make a non-Souls action game in the current market, look at something like Crimson Desert for example.Most people just don't really want character action games. Even something like HFR didn't perform super well despite widespread acclaim. Its a niche genre, now more than ever.
>>743755497One has suck-to-target and the other doesn't.
>>743751793Razors Edge was fine without Itagaki, they should have done something with combat feel similar to RE but brushed up on level design and aesthetics.
>>743750328Platinum hasn't made anything good in over a decade
>>743755497Pre ordered and loved both. Just wish NG4 had more post launch care and patching. It was clear their budget for the DLC was non existent.>>743756049Also unfortunately this. Pretty much everything Platinum does now is just a mish mash of Bayonetta mechanics and other flavour from when people who were competent worked at Platinum.
>>743750328No Kasumi..
>>743755356>character actionkys
>>743757517Call it what you will, my point still stands.
>>743755356>Add to that that those games generally have more to offer than just their combat,Combat goes much further for replayability. Outside of team ninjas catalog arpgs are mostly a boring genre. Shame.
>>743757812Most people don't place much importance on replayability. And for those that do, RPGs of various stripes offer replayability by providing various outlets for player agency (eg. build variety, narrative routes/outcomes, etc.) as well as through more conventional, gameplay-driven means such as increased difficulty.
>>743758069>eg. build variety, narrative routes/outcomes, etc.)Gay. RPGs suck
>>743758423You are entitled to your opinion, and so is the broader market. Its clear which one is the majority.Personally, I see a future for action titles as AA and indie productions. There is definitely a market waiting to be served, but the genre's days as AAA productions are well behind it.
>>743750328>What went wrong?Nothing, it is the best Ninja Gaiden game ever made, it is also the best action game ever made and it is one of the best games ever made.>I thought this was supposed to save ninja gaiden seriesIt did. It filtered all the tourists and posers. It also filtered Farnham the Cumdrunk, the best Ninja Gaiden II player, who got filtered by a simple meter management system, LOL.
>>743751125Itagaki era Team Ninja that made Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden II no longer exists.Nu-Team Ninja / Modern Team Ninja / Team Cuckja made Ninja Gaiden Smegma, Ninja Gaiden Smegma 2, Ninja Gaiden 3 and Ninja Gaiden 3: Razo'rs Edge, all absolute dogshit games.Words can't describe how happy I am that Platinum Games made Ninja Gaiden 4.Fuck Nu-Team Ninja, they can't make good action games.
>>743759675>This schizo retard again
>>743759886Silence, brown.
>>743759974>Sile-ACK
>>743753058>>743759886>>743760263bro this looks like trashfucking NGB looks cleaner and cooler than this
>>743760894It's pretty fun for a bit but that schizo is giving it way too much credit with the same copy pasta in every thread
>>743760894I play NGB 4K 60FPS, aged very well, but it doesn't hold a candle to playing Ninja Gaiden 4 at max settings 1440p 180FPS locked perfect framepacing with G-Sync and literally the lowest input latency/delay I've ever experienced in any game. The best action gameplay experience ever, the best and most optimized action game engine ever, made by Platinum Games, hope they use it for The Last Ronin too, will instantly pre-order the most expensive version on Steam.Platinum Games are the best.Ninja Gaiden 4 is the best.MONDAINAI.
>>743761278>and most optimized action game engine everIs MT Framework for DMC4 which reaches 400FPS on a lap top.
>>743761278holy power of shill batman
A new Ninja Gaiden came out?*checks out*It's been out since October?!
>>743750451based
>>743751351Based Ninja Gaiden fans refusing to consume slop just because it has "Ninja Gaiden" in the title.>Erm, be grateful and consume product, chud. It's better than nothing. Would you prefer if we got nothing instead?Yes.
>Ninja Gaiden killed itself>Bayonetta killed itselfIt started with Devil May Cry, and it will end with Devil May Cry!
>>743761854Shame they ditched it with the Special Edition, which is worse.
>>743750451cringe
>>743750328>What went wrong?Yakumo slopNo playable AyaneSecondary protag RyuPlatinum GARBAGE
>>743762394SE is on the same engine, they just botched it. V is on REngine.
>>743761925>ShillThe game is almost 1 year old, just let it go.
>>743763251If it is the same engine why does S.E perform much worse than base DMC4? They must have changed something about the engine, a different iteration perhaps, how can they "botch it", botch what? if it is the same engine version...
>>743750328Literally just bad marketing, it's the best action game in years.
>gaypass cut sales bigly>twink protag for women instead of badass Ryu>rushed out because KT is a slop developers who starts seething if a game has more than 2 years of devtime>Still, somehow was a good gameI think whoever is left at Platinum has potential for making something like this first try.
>>743763436Let him call me a shill, Nu-Team Ninja faggots are traumatized by how much superior Platinum Games is, Ninja Gaiden 4 proved it.Nu-Team Ninja hasn't made a single decent game since Nioh 2, they are in a downwards spiral of dogshit, one dogshit game after another dogshit game, no creativity, change for the sake of change, yet re-used assets and code. Nioh 3 is a failure that killed the Nioh IP. Wo Long 2 is getting barely any traction, can't wait for that massive failure to fail.Meanwhile, Platinum Games is making a massive budget AAA TMNT game, The Last Ronin, can't wait.Fuck Yasuda the faggot.Fuck Hayashit a.k.a Hayakushine the betrayer.Fuck Koei Tecmo.Fuck Team Cuckja.
>>743763776ok i thought you were a shill but now I see you are just trolling
>>743763476>If it is the same engine...do you know how engines work? Do you think they ported the whole fucking thing on unreal or something?>why does S.E perform much worseBecause they added unnecessary post processing shit that I forgot about, also 64 bit. They botched it. Still the same fucking engine dude. SE still runs at 200FPS btw. It's just that windows xp lap tops from 2007 can no longer run it.
>>743763776There's definitely something to be said about how TNfags proclaim their games as superior while being outperformed by all their peers.
>>743764868outperformed how?
>>743765026Sales, acclaim, cultural relevance.
>>743763776Silence, brown.
>>743765067You're not even human holy shit
>>743763776
>Ninja Gaiden 4 is goo-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQjKMKzbnbkOur guy hates it.Kneel.
>>743765148Berate me all you wish, but its the truth. TN games are for TNgroids and they alone. They have a captive audience and they know it. The broader market doesn't give a shit about TN because they dare to play other games and thus see just how much better things can be.
>>743751351Based, this just makes me love my fellow true Ninja Gaiden fans even more, or NGChads as I like to call them. NG4trannies rope to cope.
>>743765493>Sales, acclaim, cultural relevance.Kill your whole family.
>>743752934good. nioh is a million times better than any ninja gaiden game
>>743765083>Sile-ACK
>>743765609Take a deep breath and think about it.Who the fuck talks about TN games? Is Nioh getting a movie? How many memes did NG4 bring about? How much R34 does Wo Long have?Team Ninja does not make bad games. But they don't make truly great games, either.
>>743750328>a non-Ninja Gaiden game was going to save Ninja Gaiden
>>743762145>Based Ninja Gaiden fans refusing to consume slopis that why half of any given NG game is dog shit?
Thought it was pretty good and felt just like Ninja Gaiden.
>>743765257BASED MARK WITH THE HIGH IQ TAKES
>>743750328I was just listening to this thinking how cool this game was compared to literally anything else that came out recently.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1U12c50Mmg
>>743765976>movie>memes >R34Kill your whole family.
>>743765976I remember these clowns saying that Nu-Team Ninja and Nioh 3 will do Elden Ring numbers, totally delusional, lol.I've never seen a more insecure and pathetic dogshit developer than Nu-Team Ninja:>Dark Souls is a success?! Quick, our development hell Nioh which was rebooted multiple times and is in development hell for over a decade, make it like Dark Souls and throw in some Ninja Gaiden elements! Oh wow, it worked!>Sekiro MOGS the entire industry>Quick! Make Wo Long and copy Sekiro... oops didn't work :(>Ghost of Tsushima is a massive hit with normalfags>Quick! Make Rise of the Ronin open-world slop and give it easy mode difficulties to appeal to the normal fags... oops didn't work :(>Elden Ring made insane sales?!>Quick! Betray Nioh 1 and Nioh 2 fans and ruin the Nioh formula by making Nioh 3 open-world slop and casualizing it... oops it didn't work :(FUCK TEAM KEKJA.FUCK ANYONE ON /v/ THAT LIKES TEAM KEKJA AND THEIR DOGSHIT GAMES.Nioh 1 and Nioh 2 are decent, but were both flukes.Ninja Gaiden Black forever.Ninja Gaiden II forever.Ninja Gaiden 4 forever.
>>743766126It can't be Ninja Gaiden when it doesn't have the same block system.
>>743766330>I remember these clowns saying that Nu-Team Ninja and Nioh 3 will do Elden Ring numbersNobody was saying that except brown falseflaggers like you.
>>743766325>observable, tangible, quantifiable measures of success don't count because uhh... they just don't!
>>743766405>Filtered like Farnham the Cumdrunk>blames blocking>as if you could hold block in previous NG games at Master NinjaNinja Gaiden 4 is the gift that keeps on giving, exposing all these posers and dogshit faggots.
>>743766330>>Sekiro MOGS the entire industry>>Quick! Make Wo Long and copy Sekiro... oops didn't work :(>>Ghost of Tsushima is a massive hit with normalfags>>Quick! Make Rise of the Ronin open-world slop and give it easy mode difficulties to appeal to the normal fags... oops didn't work :(>>Elden Ring made insane sales?!>>Quick! Betray Nioh 1 and Nioh 2 fans and ruin the Nioh formula by making Nioh 3 open-world slop and casualizing it... oops it didn't work :(TRVTH NVKE
>>743765257NG4 shills have no rebuttal to this btw
>>743766330This post feels like bait because its such raw truth.
>>743766330>by making Nioh 3 open-worldOh so it's you seething in every Nioh 3 with this narrative thread lmao Your father is a nigger.
>>743750328Not enough Seori.
>>743766937The worst NG foid ever written. So glad she died.
>>743766482Right, right. Are you a newfag zoomeroid or a lying nu-Team Ninja faggot? Luckily I have the evidence for the delusional retardation of Nu-Team Ninja faggots during Wo Long days. I should have made one for Nioh 3, I will make one for their future games if Nu-Team Ninja faggots dare to make such retarded and delusional claims again, but I've already noticed that many of the Nu-Team Ninja faggots have disappeared, some of them woke up after having their mouths shat in by so many dogshit games in a row and abandoned ship. Only the most retarded and pathetic Nu-Team Ninja faggots still remain loyal.You will NEVER EVER hype Wo Long 2 or any future dogshit Team Ninja game, this time I will remember and make more evidence.
>>743751125Does anyone have the webm of the menus and shit popping during IS ninja fight?
>>743766405seems like how it used to be, except that your guard gets broken after blocking too often. is there anything else thats different.
>>743767184As with everything else that reminds them of their place, TNfags will simply pretend they do not see this image.
>>743750328Nothing went wrong. Too many people are fully bought into the digital vidya ecosystem and devs need to be looking for long tails instead of day one sales.
>>743767329The block in Ninja Gaiden 4 is in practice more powerful than the block in NG1 and NG2, because NG1 and NG2 Master punish you with grabs extremely fast. He was just looking for an excuse, he doesn't play Ninja Gaiden games, they are posers.
>replace the main character>save shitluckily not every ninja gaiden fanboy is a blind fanboy like crapcum retards
>>743767184>one shitpost engagement bait thread>people calling him out >the rest is scrambled mess of unrelated posts You are brown and raped.>You will NEVER EVER hypeKill your retarded whore mother, buddy. You ousting yourself as a cuck that seethes in Nioh 3 threads about "open world" was a great revelation. So glad I clicked on this thread.>>743767407Hey nice upvote bro. Get four different tumors and die.
I didn't want to play as the little twink faggot so i didn't buy.If you are going to make me play as a guy he needs to be 6'1" minimum and built like a brick shit house. Otherwise give me a huge tit fat ass lady ninja to play as. I am not going to spend money on some kpop fag.
>>743765257>TEUWait that's not /ourguy/.
>>743767618>>one shitpost engagement bait threadNope, it was a serious thread.>>people calling him out Nobody called him out, the majority were with him hyping up Wo Long.>>the rest is scrambled mess of unrelated posts All the posts are related to the topic and that thread, you are lying and in denial.Typical Nu-Team Ninja faggot.Can't wait for release days of Wo Long 2, it will be a failure and I will laugh at you in the Wo Long 2 threads.
>>743767543uh yea i play ng for the story
>>743767657yes it is
>>743767817>Nope, it was a serious thread.It was a 109 replies thread with a bait OP. Like most thread starters.Why divert to WL anyway? Sure, it also shits all over Niggershit 4 but the original claim was about >>743766482Are your inbred mongrel genes causing a short-circuit in your fat subhuman pig brain and preventing you from reading? Pity your raped cunt mother didn't flush you down after she's shat you out.>Can't wait-to see you in more Nioh 3 threads so I can call you brown again.
>>743768265>that image againWhich people would be unhappy? You are jumping to your own low IQ conclusions.>It was a 109 replies thread with a bait OP. Like most thread starters.Nope. It was a serious thread.>Why divert to WL anyway? The topic is Nu-Team Ninja faggots and their delusions. I had the evidence to prove my point for their retardation and delusions when it come to Wo Long, I didn't have a compilation like that for Nioh 3, but after encountering you, the most retarded and pathetic Nu-Team Ninja faggot, I will make evidences for their future games.>-to see you in more Nioh 3 threads so I can call you brown again.I haven't been in Nioh 3 threads for a long time, I only posted in them during release period. According to you, others are also calling out the dogshit open-world, which you confuse for being me. Excellent. I am happy to see that more people are calling that dogshit game Nioh 3 and its open-world what it is. I was the only one who opposed Nioh 3 open-world during its reveal, just like with Elden Ring, I am always ahead of the curve, that is what happens when you are gifted with an IQ in the top 0,3% of the world population.As for your racial insults, I think you are projecting and you yourself are brown. Only brown people are obsessed with rape and insulting mothers. You don't need to hate your own brown skin so much, let go.
>>743769327>Which people would be unhappy?Well technically you don't count since you're not human.>wall of bloodied ass seethe Go pre order your ninja turtles game lil guy.
>>743750451hav u tried glasses
It felt more like a Platinum game with the trappings of NG than what NG fans wanted (just the Xbox version of 2 that they'll never shut up about.) I liked it almost as much as the original, but I'm also a huge fan of Platinum and think Razor's Edge was better than every version of NG2 so I'll probably be called a casual or a fake fan or some shit.
>>743769509I don't see the problem with the yellow paint. It is a pure action game, not some action-adventure or action-RPG in which exploration plays an important role. You are grasping at straws. You can't find any real flaws with NG4, that is why you behave this way. Just admit that you got filtered and get over it.Now, lets take a look at Wo Long 2, an actual Action-RPG in which exploration plays an important role:>pic relatedWhat is that? Is that? MASAKA !!! That is white paint :ONow, will the Nu-Team Ninja faggot be consistent? Will he complain about this in his Nu-Team Ninja faggot dogshit game, or will he be dismissive again? Perhaps he will pretend it doesn't exist? LOL.You are a loser dude. I hit the nail on the head, all your insults are projection, you are brown, you are fat and you grew up in an unstable family environment, which caused your obsession with rape and insuting mothers, you have mommy issues.I love having an IQ in the top 0,3% of the world population, Mensa certified, I read people like you like an open book.>Go pre order your ninja turtles game lil guy.I bought pre-ordered Ninja Gaiden 4 Deluxe Edition twice, one for me, one for my brother.Will do the same for The Last Ronin when it shows up on Steam.I love spending money on actual good games that focus on quality.I will never waste money on Nu-Team Ninja regurgitated dumbed down Nioh clones/copy+paste.
>>743769509There's no way that's real, can it?Holy fucking shit and I thought resident evil was bad.
>>743750328Stop slowing down combat by forcing players to fish for specific attacks and to spam cutscene shit.
>>743759886This fucking multiplatform wide release game sold worse than literal Xbox exclusives btw. Worst selling Ninja Gaiden game that killed the series forever
>>743770306The new Wo Long having better attack combos, wall running and getting up gaps by wall jumping almost makes it look like Team Ninja are re-learning how to make a Ninja Gaiden game.
>>743772142Nonsense, it sold well and was a hit on gamepass.
>>743772297>The new Wo Long having better attack combosnot confirmed, just wishful thinking, the execution and gameplay feel is all that matters, not it as a gameplay concept, we will see.>wall running and getting up gaps by wall jumping almost makes it look like Team Ninja are re-learning how to make a Ninja Gaiden game.Not if they are as dogshit and low quallity as they are in Nioh 3.
>>743763776>Nu-Team Ninja hasn't made a single decent game ftfy
It's generic Platinum slop masquerading as Ninja Gaiden.
>>743768213>no MNM streamlollmao even
>>743771339>Stop slowing down combat by forcing players to fish for specific attackslol yea definitely none of this in ng2 oh wait
>>743765257>>743767657This guy >>743750451is more our guy than the guy you said is our guy
>>743750451mmmm sovl gas...
>>743770967I think even the devs realized it looked stupid because it's only in the intro stage for the game.
>>743750328It's too anime and muh curazy action game shit that was never what Ninja Gaiden was about. When the game freeze framed and played some cringe jap rock like "this is epic isnt' it ! woahh this is so cool..." no it's fucking cringe. This isn't Ninja Gaiden. Itagaki wasn't weeb. This is shit.
>>743758069>(eg. build variety, narrative routes/outcomes, etc.)Most modern RPGs have none of those...
I still remember playing it at a mall kiosk and being like holy shit
>>743750451It's insane how putting ng4 footage next to NG3, which is also shit, makes it seem even worse. I can't remember the last time when I was blown away by a sequel. Even bad games somehow get worse sequels
>>743769997>procure thy spectacles essekek
>>743775210>When the game freeze framed and played some cringe jap rock like "this is epic isnt' it ! woahh this is so cool...ng fans in charge of playing their series
>>743776847ng fans dont want this tryhard dmc platnium shit in their game. What made Ninja Gaiden good was that it wasnt jap weeb shit.
>>743751351Based NGChads. I remember reading that they thought mentioning that Ryu has ninpo was a big selling point. He's had ninpo since NG1 he just wanted to stay tight-lipped.
>>743756117The budget had to be low to being with. They couldn't wait to strip features out so they could ask for more money from a fanbase that hadn't had a new game in years.
don't worry the OG NG2 recomp will bring back all the boys to the yardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHKLl0kNRI8
>>743777279>recompor just play the black mod for sigma 2
>>743750328It doesn't feel like Ninja Gaiden. It feels like a licensed Platinum game with a slightly higher budget than something like their Transformers game... Which is basically what it is.
>>743763776Team Ninja and Platinum Games have decided to both go down the drain. TN can only make Nioh and Platinum needs outsourced IPs to stay afloat after the leak of highly respected workers. Bayo and Astral Chain are nowhere to be seen and Babylon's Fall bit them in the ass harder than losing talent.
>>743750328They added some gay twink to replace Ryu and he wasn't particularly cool or memable so the game just came and went. Say what you will about DMC5 but it knew to keep the newcomer V to a minimum and had a lot of meme shit to give it traction so the game has a cultural foothold even 7 years after coming out.
>>743750328>What went wrong?Being made by another studio for starters.
>>743775038lol that is simply not true. Yellow ramps and rails show up all the time. It completely takes away from being a ninja. Not just the yellow paint but also a button is bound by default that points towards objectives. Both of these might help explain why the level design is so bad and uninteractive. >inb4 NG2 was linear too
>>743777362Smegma versions suck ass, so does Smegma 2 Black.
>>743779105I love how in cutscene both ryu and the twink jump 5000 feet like a fucking spiderman
NO SEXY WEBMS IN THIS THREAD WTF
>>743765257>TEUI'm still waiting for Tekken 8 season 3 and Doom TDA Revelations reviews.>>743773059>It's generic Platinum slop masquerading as Ninja Gaiden.So the problem is really the abandoned IP? Gotcha
>>743753518Retard. They didn't remove Ryu at all. I hate you freaks.
>>743750328>What went wrong?Shatin'em got involved, a company that has only made hot trash their entire existence
>>743781356>still waitingWhere's the DMC 3 book?
>>743750328Game was so aids it killed itagaki and ayane’s VA IRL
>>743783608On capcom of Course, also, Kazuma Kaneko tweeted about DMC3 devil trigger designs.
>>743780626And don't forget the cutscenes that try to make the new weapons seem cool before the player even get to use em. And then they decided to have almost no cutscenes of them together even in The Two Masters. >>743781480I understand what you're saying but even NG4 fans have said that Ryu is underutilized in this game. The problem will continue to be that Ryu just isn't as big a factor in this game unless it gets a rerelease with more for him to do in both story and gameplay.
>>743783960Every cutscene is bad and boring. Even big tiddy girl with white hair could't make things interesting
>>743783665You are clearly a real fan. Post ayana webms or fan art or anything
>>743751125I am sorry but your webm is really bad. What is it supposed to prove? that the camera is terrible? That enemies are not aggressive enough? Is this sigma? I could pull this off and i'm not even that good
>>743761278Fuck Kenji and YakumoHayabusa clan literally had Sanji who could've been fun all grown up
>>743779105>Yellow ramps and rails show up all the time.Yes, not literal yellow paint smeared on the walls like at the start of the game.
>>743759946the yin to farnhams yang i guess
>>743750328>what went wrong.Nobody gives a flying fuck about Ninja Gaiden anymore and it would have been better received if they stuck with the original plan of making a stand alone action game similar to Ninja Gaiden but decided it would be a flop unless they stuck the words Ninja Gaiden on it.Surprise, it still stank.Team Ninja makes dog shit games and I am tired of people trying to prop them up as otherwise.
>>743750451The wordplay and witty high-effort puns are the best part. Not the best ng video but definitely the funniest one
>>743750328I mean, they ditched Ryu in favor of a kpop twink.
>>743750328Exactly what any non-NG fan told you it would happen.NG fans were mixed during pre-releaseNon united fanbase means no hype trainNo hype train didnt atract the normalfag crowdNo normal fag crowd means no big moneyYou just need to compare to DMCV pre-release reactions.
>>743753271Funnily enough I'm pretty sure this game had some pretty crazy numbers when you check websites like fitgitl
>>743754460NG4 Ayane and Seori look way sexier than any of the girls did in the previous games, they looked super cheap and tryhard to feel genuinely sexy, like something only a teenager early into puberty would enjoy.
>>743784796the camera is framing the action perfectly. something that never happens in NG4
>>743765257I wish Mork and other arcadefags like that tranny from critpoints understood fighting games as well as Clayton, the guy knows his stuff but the lack of editing and script plus his 20 year old dramas and his massive ego make the videos practically incoherent. Like, just compare the way all of them talked about street fighter 6 when it was coming out, Mork praised the slimer and didn't even acknowledge how magnetized to the ground the characters feel yet complains A LOT about suck to target nowadays.
>>7437598863re is great
>>743755804despite how retarded as a human being you are, mike tyson is better
>>743750451>If you would please consult my parental figure youtuber because I don't have the vocabulary to express myself
>>743751125Yeah because Team Ninja's first NG game without Itagaki went so well>>743750328Yakumo is an awful protag and the game barely features Ryu. Ryu also only has one weapon without DLC, and Yakumo's weapons are just to stupid for me. The game was also $70 and it was on Games Pass day one. The only thing I like about the game was Ryu. They nailed him. Too bad 90% of the game is Yakumo. Putting my personal qualms with the game aside Platinum didn't do enough to garner the casuals like DMCV did. Less focus on graphics and presentation, more focus on gameplay and difficulty is not a winning combo for casuals. The game was fairly difficult on Normal. I really hate the Astral Chain aesthetic that NG4 adopted too, but then again Platinum's general aesthetic choices have went down hill since Hashimoto left the company after Bayo 2.
>>743766690>>743766253https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJkQgiy9gNAmorkbros...
>>743750328Ryu got sidelined hard and they removed combo branches which is pretty gay. More Ayane would've been nice.I went through the whole series last year and it was a lot of fun. Haven't done MN for 1-3 yet though. Also got filtered by the NES games multiple times now but I'll beat them eventually. I also tried Black and vanilla II but tapped out after finding out I need to play through them like 3 times to get MN mode.
>>743777430absolute nonsense.
>>743793349Removing all those combo branches and contextual attacks like on-landing moves is the single biggest sign that the game wasn't made by team ninja (if you somehow didn't know going in). All of that was like a holdover from their experience as fighting game devs and it worked pretty well as well as some other stuff like linear jump arcs.
>>743765257>MorkI don't hate Mork but I find his videos are more insightful into his tastes rather than super serious mechanical design. He often embellishes the gameplay experience based on how preconceived notions for how action games should be played. He pushes up on some good points like in the Shinobi video, but it should be clear to most watching that he's more a cheerleader for a specific era of game rather than mechanical harmony
>>743793349You went throught the Smegma abominations, not the series. The series is NGB and NGII.
>>743793593Are they really that big a deal? You might have 100s of 'combos' but only really use two or three of them at the most.
>>743796818Some did more damage but were long ass strings leaving you vulnerable, so you could opt to go for a shorter faster oneSome were better at delimbing enemies but sucked for damage (like bosses)Some are just plain cool to use like the dragon sword's dashing attack, because their animation team was godly so who cares if theres a few redundant moves mechanicallyThere were some decent on-landing attacks like the dragon sword which was a fairly large AOE spin that goes directly into his regular combo, and you can go straight into them from stomping on an enemy's headYes I won't pretend there was some bloat but to be honest I think the dragon sword's moveset is absolutely perfect and versatile in every scenario from the kicks in 1 to the new additions in 3 and seeing it get chopped down in 4 was a little upsetting
>>743786107>that picwhat Griffith (Berserk) had to do to for funding with the wealthy Tudor feudal lord Gennon.
>>743750328Just like with Dead or Alive, it's nothing without Itagaki. I don't say this as a fan. I say this as an outsider looking in.
>>743793420>>743772303Silence, brown.
>>743795723>rather than super serious mechanical designThere's better options for that.
>>743790786Platinum really needs to get some artists who can draw up something other than a dark wet dingy semi sci fi city street with the decor of an Amazon warehouse
>>743772379>not confirmed, just wishful thinkingWatch their bilibili video, it has dial a combos now.
>>743777279Xenia Edge already plays it wellBut what about NGB? From what I've heard, Xemu has consistent crashes somewhere around the labyrinth, can't advance further without hacking
Try flicking the stick and jumping in NGB, NG2, or RE.Now try it in NG4
>>743750328It was fucking awesome wdym>>743803087This is fucking awesome
>>743750328>What went wrong?They were trying to sell an action game in industry infested by soulslike./v/ will never accept it and would rather blame the jews, the aliens, whatever, but time and luck are legit factors to a game's financial success.Also, Ninja Gaiden 4 rock.
I only like smegma 2 because you can play ayane
>>743750328It was called "ninja gaiden" "4".Two problems with this, one is that ninja gaiden is not an especially lucrative or eyecatching ip and two is that it doesn't play much like ninja gaidenit's really good but it should have been called anything else (and marketed better (and had a more appealing mc design))
>>743750328Did these morons brought back pre-order skin for Yakumo yet?
>>743750328$70
>>743803087Goddamn, that's fucking gay.
Not a real NG game. It's mediocre P* shovelware.
>>743803136I know that, what I mean with "wishful thinking", is that the execution will be satisfactory or on the level of Ninja Gaiden games. Time will tell.
>>743750451>DSP jumpscare>It's not quotes from 20 years ago but it's actually recent footageI'm a bit too wowed.
>>743803087The game is playing itself
ng4 will be the last true action game released, that or tmntafter that it's endless "action" soulslikes like wo long/nioh
>>743750328How can we convince women to wear clothing like this irl?
>>743807345i live in america so the last thing I want is women wearing that irl
>>743808979because they are fat?
>>743805669wow what a great argument
>>743805987What quotes from 20 years ago? All I know is HELLO JEW and BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN. GONE. FOREVER
>>743810735>WHY AM I TOXIC?>oh, the camera's on>dood>*controller slam* FUKIN COCKSUCKER">I did nothing wrong! I did everything correctThere's just this idea of DSP that is firmly in the public conscious of the guy that gets mad at games and blames everything else, so seeing anything from his recent days is a shock.
>>743754460>fully clothed shibari with some cleaveageWho was this?
>>743765257It's interesting how he gave Doom TDA a pass when it has the exact same """issues""" NG4 has
>>743807174retard
>>743815338There are like 5 button presses and 3 button holds in that SICK LE COMBO. kys. The most complex thing he did was launch the enemy in the air you stupid fuck. Everything else is automated
>>743756048This, while RE was a departure, at least it was a functional and fun game. Too bad it was saddled with NG3's shit levels and gimmicks, like the wall climbing and stuff.
I don't like the movesets in NG4. dial strings have fuckall utility and distinction from each other, all that matters are raven moves. Hell even the input moves overlap in functionality.
>>743815338epic magnetism bro
>>743816531retard.
>>743817218There's no magnetism, they just move faster.
>>743796818They're ass in NG2 but in black almost all moves have a niche.3 is also worth mentioning since its designed around ground strings and rewards extended strings with better damage and delimb rates. That said the strings themselves are less unique, especially on lunar.
>>743803275>>743813723
>>743793420It literally is a licensed Platinum game thoughbeit
>>743787423>>743803614These two posts are the answer. Traditional action games are a niche genre these days which means the margin for error is tiny. Any franchise reboot would need the entire fanbase in its corner hailing it as the greatest game. Anything less and it's doomed to fail.
Platninum turned it into juggleshit, didn't underand what mage NG combat good.
>>743790719Shupogaki love
>>743750328Suck to target for both the player and enemies is the main issue, it's otherwise the best 3D NG game by far.t. MN completion on day 2
>>743797780This. His vision made it happen
>>743750451Well, to be fair, the game looking like shit is not a little thing
Itagaki is dead. We've all moved onto gacha games.
>>743796818Sometimes your go-to combos get countered hard at times.
>>743750328Ayane should be having sex with overweight losers, specifically me
>>743750451>Whoever came up with red vignettes and screen smearing in video games, deserves to fucking dieYou are god damn right.
>>743827689i play mahjong souuls
>>743796587what about NG2 Black?
>>743831696That is a DEMAKE of Smegma 2, can't get worse than that.
>>743832001Give me TLDR
>>743831696Better than Sigma 2, worse than OG NG2, I would consider it a sidegrade.
>>743832162Ignore that retard. NG2 Black was built off Sigma 2 and fixes most of its issues. Namely>Adds gore back in>Adds the weapon upgrade system back in>Removes the dumb statue bosses>Adds a few more enemies in some encounters (but not as many as vanilla 2)It's a decent version of NG2 but 2 will just never have a perfect version really. Vanilla 2 is unfinished and plays like dogshit on mentor and above, sigma 2 is dogshit, and 2 black doesn't have enough enemies.
>>743832365>Vanilla 2 is unfinished and plays like dogshit on mentor and aboveCare to elaborate why it does play like shit on mentor+ difficulties?
>>743832465Ignore that retard, he suffers from Skill Issue + IQ Issue.NGII is peak.
>>743811953I need that money, I really really do. To pay muh bills
>>743832465NTA but it makes you fight the worst enemies in the game more often. Horse guys and flyers and fishes. They tanky af now and more of them too which equals boring time. Can't delimb either so it's drags shit down. Play NG2B instead. Better game.
>>743814161>passI'm sure he shat on TDA due to the accessibility-difficulty bullshit.
>>743832465Ignore the other retard, on higher difficulties you don't need IQ or skill, just bring the Blade of the archfiend + True Dragon Sword and kill everything with the Ultimate Techniques.
>>743750451>>743774605Both of these guys are good for different reasons. Good shill
>>743750451Rare kino youtube plug