>>743784364
Give 5 unironic reasons why it's better than the ps2

>>743784364
lmao it's literally the worst one. It launched with Luigi Mansion, you had to wait years to get the worst Mario, and the weakest Zelda, it didn't do online like Xbox, it didn't play DVDs like PS2, I legitimately feel bad for everyone stuck with just a Gamecube.

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>>743784417
It has better games and graphics.

what if im an adult and don't want to play games made for children?

>>743784417
Better graphics
RE4 launch exclusive
Cheaper
Better emulation support
RE1 remake

>>743784481
There's plenty of terrible mature adult gangbanger wiggercore games on other platforms, Gamecube was for white people.

you're just a retarded nostalgiafaggot reddit shitbrain

I was one of the geniuses who said this at the time. Everyone called me crazy. I knew I wasn't crazy.

>>743784364
True

>>743784417
Better controller
Better graphics
Better build quality
Better games
Faster loading

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>>743784364
>was superior to its competition

>>743784481
All video games are made for children. Including your epic mature games like Grand Theft Auto, played almost exclusively by 12 year olds. All vidya are toys made for children or manchildren.

>>743784469
All this image does is demonstrate how the Gamecube had the exact same problem the N64 did.

>>743785128
Yep, incredible, generation defining games.

>>743785128
Too many good games? Not enough wiggerslop?

>>743784836
Enough about the Xbox. He asked about the Gamecube.

>>743785250
>better controller
>better build quality
Xbox has neither of these.

>>743784364
only reason people bought this was for uhhhhhhhhhh uhhhhhhhhh metroid? luigi's mansion? no idea. cant play battlefront, cant play halo 2, wtf you want this shit for?

>>743785320
>he couldn't handle the duke
sorry baby hands

>>743785337
>cant play battlefront, cant play halo 2
You say that like those are worth playing.

>>743785201
Most of the games in that image flopped anon. The Gamecube was the opposite of generation defining which is why they made the Wii.
>>743785216
Nearly every game in that image is excellent. The problem is that image is also almost every game worth discussing that came out on the Gamecube.
If you’re putting Star Fox Adventures in your Gamecube screenshot compilation you know you’re scraping the bottom of the barrel.

>>743785370
Battlefront 2 shits on most of the GC library. And I don’t want to hear you come back complaining its Star Wars slop when one of the most revered Gamecube games is Rogue Leader.

>>743785320
>Better build quality
I've had more known Xboxes survive the decades than Gamecubes, even with the clock capacitor issue. Especially in regards to disc drives
>Better Controller
This is just a fact. Disagree again and I will personally drop a Duke on the soft spot on your baby ass head and cave the entire thing.

>>743785570
Battlefront 2 is just a braindead third person shooter, the license is the least of its problems.

>>743785709
Wrong

>>743785707
>I've had more known Xboxes survive the decades than Gamecubes, even with the clock capacitor issue.
Xbox consoles have countless ways to fail. If the ancient HDD stops working then you're going to need to solder three wires to the JTAG port to extract the EEPROM. The video capacitors always crap out, the power supplies are unreliable. It's about as stable and functional as any other Microsoft product.

>>743784417
1. SUPER
2. SMASH
3. BROTHERSS
4. MELEEEEEE!!!
5. ur mum lmao

>>743785836
Sorry not everyone’s a pedophile

>>743785709
if you actually lived back when these were modern, battlefront 2 was like the best game. halo 2 and battlefront were just way ahead of anything else at the time. more features, best split screen, only reason youd play a different game is if you were playing by yourself or you were gay

I owned both (the Gamecube was a Christmas gift and the PS2 I got as a gift way later when my cousin got her 360) so I have no dog in this 20 year old console war. The Gamecube was vastly superior for multiplatform games and its library included literally my two favorite games of all time: RE4 and Metroid Prime.
And even with that advantage it’s hard to argue that the PS2 didn’t have the best library of any console ever. It had a glut of games for every genre imaginable and that alone probably puts it over the top.

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>>743784364
good console, but every time a cubetroon tries to talk about how wind waker was a masterpiece or starfox adventures was an underrated gem it sets the systems reputation back another 10 years

>>743786278
Yeah, 100% agree. I'm not sure what games I would recommend in their stead, but those two games instantly turn me off from talking about anything nintendo.

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>>743786390
If you want my honest opinion, I'd recommend Melee, Monkey Ball 1/2, and F-Zero GX for some of the gamecube's best games

>>743784469
Not including TTYD is just criminal.

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>>743784417
Good controller, easy to carry from the start (people will say this is a bad thing, but they never had to deal with bringing a fat PS2 to a friends house picrel), good games over shovelware, cheaper, good party games

>>743784364
Such a dog shit console they literally were just collecting dusts in warehouses. Couldn't even give them away for $99. Section 8 blacks had enough dignity to save up for a PS2, while the cube was exclusively for autistic retards and white inbred trailer trash who would eventually vote in Donald Drumpf. Shit console that set America back 200 years in the world, FUCK THE GAMECHUD.

>>743784364
it's so pleasing to look at too unlike the other consoles

>>743784364
It was the best console to rape your bros with.

>>743785519
>The problem is that image is also almost every game worth discussing that came out on the Gamecube.
This, that image is pretty much my GC line up from back in the day, sans a few of them. Just throw in Billy Hatcher, Bomberman Jetters and a few licensed games and that's it. Not bad at all, but even as a kid I knew the PS2 was getting more stuff.

3DPD

>>743788154
>Good controller
the controller is dogshit
>worthless nipple as a right stick
>dogshit dpad
>no l1 / left bumper
>easy to carry
lmao
>good games over shovelware
it has teh least amount of good games that generation, no rpgs, 2 awful zelda games, luigis tech demo, only a handful of platformers
>party games
i thought you hated shovelare

>>743784417
1. melee better than ps2 fighting game
2. animal crossing unlike any other game that gen
3. f zero gx better than any ps2 racer
4. sunshine better than any ps2 platformer
5. superior versions of re4, viewtiful joe, tales of symphonia

>>743784468
>it didnt have movies or online!!!
yeah it just had games

>>743785337
>battlefront and halo 2
brownstation and xbox retards truly have the worst normgroid taste, its unreal.

>>743792106
>1. melee better than ps2 fighting game
wrong
>3. f zero gx better than any ps2 racer
wrong
>4. sunshine better than any ps2 platformer
wrong

>>743785519
it doesnt even have paper mario TTYD on it, which is one of the best jrpgs ever made.

>>743786159
ps2 is not even better than ps1. NES, SNES and ps1 library are all leagues better than the shitstation 2.

>>743792229
>no examples given because he will get laughed at for his brown-coded "taste" in gaming
I accept your concession

>>743785519
>Star Fox Adventures
great game
looked better than anything else and had no loading screens

>>743792229
okay anon let's hear it, what PS2 racer is better than F-Zero GX?

>>743792229
PS2 had some good platformers but fighting games better than Melee? GTFO

>>743792364
Sly 2 and R&C Going Commando are better than Sunshine. Sunshine is honestly like Jak 1 tier. Ite fine I guess.
>>743792502
GT4 is better than F-Zero GX (F-Zero is at least better than any other PS2 racer though)
>>743792649
Tekken 5 and honestly Melee isn’t the best fighter on the Gamecube either. That would be Soul Calibur 2

>>743784364
I'm quite a big fan of my gamecube that loads off of an SD card and my PS2 that loads off of an HDD, but I'd be lying if I said the gamecube got more use. Though it might've if I wasn't broke, gotta replace the battery in the gamecube so I can play ACGC on my CRT.

>>743792442
Okay but it was dogshit to play

>>743792840
>realism slop is better than GX
>didn't even use Burnout
No.

>>743792894
it played as well as any of the other crap I see get praised on here

>>743792986
Yes, Gran Turismo 4 is one of the best games ever made and the fact that you describe it as slop means you’re too low IQ for this conversation.

>>743793010
No it didn’t lol. Even for the time it played poorly.
Just admit you liked it because Krystal was your sexual awakening it’s less embarrassing than trying to defend its gameplay

>>743793030
I can't agree that it's a better racer than F-Zero when it had no throttle control. It's a good game but nothing special really.

>>743793212
Fair but this is also not a problem with emulation in the modern day.

Is there a skies of arcadia gamecube hack that restores the dreamcast OST? now that I've finished P4G I was thinking my next JRPG would be Skies of Arcadia

>>743792649
Not trying to troll here.
Smash isn't a fighting game and I have never heard an argument for it being a fighting game better formulated than 'the characters fight each other' and circular reasoning like 'it's at EVO!'.

It's clearly not in the same genre as SFII, anyone can see that at a glance.

>>743793030
Futuristic space racing is better than anything with your gay ass realism.

>>743793818
Yeah, too low IQ. Don’t reply to me.

>>743793292
I didn't know it had a different OST, the GC version is the only one I've played.
I might go back and play it again, I loved it

>>743784364
While I wouldn't say that it was superior to the PS2, I loved the fuck out of mine.
>Zelda Collection, Wind Waker
>The Capcom 4
>REmake
>Smash
>Paper Mario
>Mario Sunshine
>Pikmin
>Metroid
>Soulcalibur 2
>Baten Kaitos
>Crystal Chronicles
and so on and so forth. Lots of bangers.
>>743784468
As much as I like Ninja Gaiden and Halo, the OG Xbox is comparatively weak compared to both consoles.
>worst Mario
>weakest Zelda
incorrect and bad opinions

>>743785519
>The problem is that image is also almost every game worth discussing that came out on the Gamecube.
It doesn't have Mario Strikers, Sonic Riders, Timesplitters, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, and so many more amazingly fun games.

>>743794935
Sunshine is dogshit, and Wind Waker is mogged by every other Zelda. That's fact. Xbox wasn't just Halo. It was also Morrowind, Fable, Starwars KotOR, you had third party releases to look forward to that absolutely did not arrive Gamecube, such as Mercenaries, Bethesda published Pirates of the Caribbean (Sea Dogs 2), you had exclusives like Blinx the Timesweeper, Psychonauts, and Toe Jame & Earl 3. I could keep going, but I said it best the first fucking time.


I legitimately feel bad for everyone stuck with just a Gamecube.

>>743792126
Just compare launch titles, cubekiddies just do not know what the fuck is up.

>>743796419
ps2 launch library was a steaming pile of shit. it didnt get good games until 2001. Improve your LARP, zoomtard.

>>743796356
yeah it really sucks how gamecube was stuck with garbage like melee, f-zero and metroid prime. if only they got to play truly great games like blinx the timesweeper and pirates of the caribbean.

>>743793657
>it HAS to be a street fighter clone or it's not a fighting game
>it HAS to have a health bar or it's not a fighting game
retarded

>>743784417
Mash Brothers Melee
Sim City Teens
Super Mario Power Tennis
WArio Ware
Bloody Roar aprimarl fuey
Super M
A
RIO SUNSHINE
W
Indwaker
Twilight Princrss
Pokemon Colosseum
Pokemon xD
Legend of Zelda Master Quest
Tales of Symphonia
Megaman X Collection
Teen Titans Battle Blitz
Psycho Nauts
Wave Ridrr
Toni Hoc
And a lot more

>>743784364
PS2 had more worthwhile games on its launch year than the entire library of GameCube. You lost!

>>743797117
Like what

>>743784364
besides having the shittiest controller, non-existent backwards compatibility, worst game library, worst online support, and worst physical format, uh yeah....it was superior at ....things..

>>743797186
>non-existent backwards compatibility
unforgivable for the disc based GC to not play N64 carts

>>743796850
Xbox launched with Dead or Alive and Project Gotham Racing. We were playing Tony Hawk Proskater 2X while you were stuck with Luigi's fucking Mansion lmao.

>>743797186
Nobody talks enough shit about the Gamecube controller, it's an ergonomic nightmare.

>>743797317
Bragging about his port of a PS1 game kek

>>743797352
There's a reason Nintendo keep bringing it back, plenty of people like it.

>so superior it bombed to inferior hardware

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>>743784364
Imagine missing out on FF, MGS, Silent Hill, DMC, Suikoden, Xenosaga, Kingdom Hearts, GTA, Tekken, Persona... Like bro, the PS2 is leagues ahead of anything, especially the Shitcube. Just trying to argue this is the same as admitting you are delusional. Mentally ill. No seriously, if you didn't own a PS2 you missed out on the greatest generation of gaming. Even if you had an Xbox and GC you still won't get it. You missed out.

>>743797621
You people always try to sneak in a couple of extra shit titles and it diminishes your point

>>743784469
The PS2 had both Tales of Symphonia and the superior Tales of the Abyss and Tales of Destiny DC.

>>743784836
>>743788154
Objectively worse controller for multiplat games with 2 less buttons and non-clickable sticks (4 less buttons).

>>743798235
>Objectively
>says something subjective

>>743798448
it does objectively have fewer buttons than rival controllers, only Nintendo would launch a controller with three shoulder buttons.
I love the GC controller but it could have been better.

>>743798689
Yes. But if that is "better" or not is a subjective opinion.

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>>743784417
1. smash bros melee
2. Paper Mario TTYD
3. Metroid Prime
the other 2 are not needed but these three alone shits all over the entire PS2's library and it's not even close you sonydroidnigger

>>743798689
PHIL 101 dude

>>743799059
Having a hundred dollars is better than having ten dollars.

>>743799370
Depends. Either way we are talking about contollers so don't change the topic.

Can someone prefer to have more or less buttons? The answer is yes.
That means it's not objectively better to have more or less buttons.

>>743799370
that is a subjective opinion without further qualification/framing

>>743798448
>esl

>>743799481
Well do you enjoy the empty space on the top left of the controller more than you would enjoy a button there?
Do you enjoy the sticks being non-clickable? How would you even know?
It's a stupid point you're arguing. It's okay to like the GC controller but it would be even better with those functions and it would lose nothing.

>>743800021
>It's a stupid point you're arguing
It's your point.
You said it was "objectively worse", I'm correcting your misuse of the word "objectively".
No need to get upset at me, you used the word incorrectly. Not I.

>>743800354
It is correct to say that it's objectively better to have a clickable stick than not. You gain an extra button and lose nothing.

>>743800991
>is correct to say that it's objectively better to have a clickable stick than not
No, it's not. That's just a preference.
Could someone prefer less buttons? Y/N

>>743801132
No

>>743801240
Yes, they could.
Thus your statement isn't "objective". It's just a preference.

Jet Set Radio Future for the XBOX.
Fuck your normie games.

>>743801405
It's not possible to prefer the absence of a button when the experience does not change if it's there.
If stick buttons made the sticks worse then you'd have a point but they don't.
If the controller suffered from having an extra shoulder button it would be possible to prefer it without, but it wouldn't.

>>743801801
>It's not possible to prefer the absence of a button when the experience does not change if it's there.
Yes it is.
You're just pretending otherwise.

>>743801865
I am just thinking at a more advanced level than you are, that's all.

>>743801897
That's what I said, you are pretending.

>>743784364
Cheapest console ever when adjusted for inflation, and it was more powerful than the PS2. Gamecube is such a weird anomaly in hindsight it's strange to think something like this failed.

>>743802015
It was the exact wrong time for a purple, family friendly console, and they didn't market it enough.
You can see the lessons they learned with the Wii, that was a much more slick design, with a wider target audience, and the marketing was everywhere,

only game i ever played on this pos was super smash bros melee, but that one game made gamecube worth it

>>743798235
This, the button layout is also bad for any game that doesn't overvalue the A button.

>>743784364
the discs only had like 1/3rd of the storage capacity that PS2 and XBox had. By far the strangest anti piracy measure ever taken by a company.

>>743799481
>Depends.
gross, dont go oversharing

It's funy, because if there's one thing the N64, GameCube, and Wii U prove, it's that Nintendo's games alone aren't really enough to help Nintendo beat the competition. In fact, it was crushed when all it had to offer were its usual corporate, watered down games...
This shows that the success of the Switch 1 and Switch 2 isn't due to Nintendo's games, but to the device itself.

>>743804551
Missing a core component, Nintendo's handhelds sell like crazy, the Switch inherited those sales when they merged the hardware line.

>>743784364
You have to keep in mind that it looks better in retrospect because many of its games are Nintendo IPs that either remain locked to the gamecube itself, or at best locked to other nintendo hardware. Compare that to PS2/Xbox games, where many/most of the biggest hits are from a variety of 3rd parties that got ported to other platforms at some point. So their libraries now feel less "unique" because you can still play many of those greatest PS2 games on other consoles, whether future xbox or playstation consoles or even later nintendo platforms or as PC ports/remasters, etc.

And then on top of that, there's the mystique of the gamecube due to it selling relatively poorly during its time. Which means fewer people grew up with a cube, so its library feels fresh and untapped for all the people who grew up with a PS2 and then went back decades later to check out an entire library that's new to them.

>>743785370
As someone who grew up with the Gamecube, Halo 2 was probably the most hyped game in 2004. If it wasn't that, it was GTA San Andreas or Half Life 2.

>>743784364
I love mine. Still got it too. Might be the best library of the century in terms of Nintendo consoles.

>>743805054
Halo alone made the Xbox the console to own
>>743805019
All the other gems were just a bonus on top

>>743805739
Halo got ported to PC soon after though, which meant mouse controls and online multiplayer.

>>743805739
I had an Xbox and never owned Halo.

>>743788154
The fat PS3 could be a bit of a pain, but holy shit dude.
I have one of the flabbiest upper bodies alive, and early-model PS2 is just nothing to pick up and move around. Are you a fucking t-rex or something?

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I always find it interesting how GameCube discourse depends on wether you grew up with it or not.
PS2 discourse doesn't change on that factor, amongst almost everyone who owned a PSX they can truly say the PS2 was better (maybe because PS2 offered full backwards compatibility)
Amongst the people who owned the N64 prior exists a huge portion of fans who hated the GameCube because almost every sequel to a N64 classic bar Melee and F-zero GX paled in comparison
I still remember tons of people hating on Luigi's mansion for not being a true Mario game, hating on Sunshine for feeling like a rushjob and on Wind waker for not living up to either OoT or Majora's mask

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>>743805739
>halo
>worth owning a console
>let alone worth playing at all
kill yourself underage

>>743792649
GameCube missed out on
>Marvel vs Capcom 2
>The entire Tekken series when it was at its absolute peak
>Virtua Fighter 4
>Guilty Gear
>King of Fighters
>Dead or Alive 2
>Western fighters like Def Jam had dogshit GameCube ports
Just to name a few

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>>743792502
Ok

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>>743797253
Not a excuse

>>743806814
i owned all besides a xbox
because buying a shit console for ninja gaiden wasn't worth

>>743806814
>I still remember tons of people hating on Luigi's mansion for not being a true Mario game,
thats a case of stupidity
its not even a mainline mario game . why would anyone with common sense complain about not being a true mario game

>>743807485
Because people expected a sequel to Mario 64 to launch with the Gamecube
Especially after that Mario 128 demo showcased at Space World

>>743807715
>Because people expected a sequel to Mario 64 to launch with the Gamecube
Why? It wasn't a part of the launch line-up.
Again, that's just stupidity.

>>743797416
Melee Stockholm Syndrome

>>743807715
>Especially after that Mario 128 demo showcased at Space World
so a case of stupidity
or do i need to remind you the zelda thing from n64?

>>743785870
Yeah, just you and your discord cabal.

>>743807393
i own all of them now and the xbox & 360 are probably my favorites

>>743806881
don't go cutting yourself on that edge, pro gamer

>>743808041
>>743808154
>People were stupid for expecting a game that would follow in the footsteps of Nintendo's most successful platformers
You guys should have worked at Sega when they decided to launch the Saturn without a dedicated Sonic game

>>743784364
>worst controller
>shitty mini discs
>least games
>less exclusives than PS2
>not as powerful as xbox

lmao fuck no

>>743808280
>Buy a Gamecube without looking up games available for it
>"wtf where's Halo???"
That's a low iq consumer issue.

>>743808154
So Luigi's Mansion and Wind Waker were disappointments. Thanks for conceding.

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>>743808428
>without looking up games available for it
Im pretty sure most people looked up what was available for the Gamecube wich is why it absolutely bombed
This is what it had to compete with on launch, there was no saving that system

>>743808624
>Im pretty sure most people looked up what was available for the Gamecube
Then your original point is redundant.

>>743808685
My point is that most people were disappointed with the GameCubes launch games and that remains true
>But you can't be disappointed if you knew it was dogshit
Ok?

>>743806881
Halo was the best FPS on console at the time, there is no debate about this
The only close second was Timesplittess future perfect

>>743809094
Okay.
Do you have any data to back this claim up, or is it just anecdotal?

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>>743809232
The sales data speaks for itself
As for the people's opinions, heres a forum thread on the 1 year anniversary of the GC

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>>743784417
>Metroid Prime
>Smash Bros Melee
>Pikmin
>Sonic Adventure 2
>Animal Crossing

>>743796419
It launched with Melee. That's all you needed.
>Nooo, it came out 2 weeks after the system itself. It doesn't count
Don't be autistic

>>743810848
Funny how you assume everyone was as autistic as you guys are about Melee
It was a fun party game for most people but thats about it
There were more Cubefags seething about not getting GTA 3 than PS2fags were aware of Melee's existance

>>743810386
>Speaks for itself
Already said "self evident" things are not valid.
Cute that you tried to sneak this in!

Metroid Prime is slow and floatt and its gameplay pales in comparision to any good FPS, or Super Metroid. Its music and atmosphere are top notch however and admittedly do help carrying the game. I beat it and enjoyed it thanks to those factors, but I don’t think I would go back to it any time soon.
Melee is a janky, glitchy, unbalanced mess noticeable even to casuals. It’s lucky it managed to be fun in spite of that, but I wouldn’t call it a great game, specially when compared to a competently made non-rushed fighting game.
I won’t talk shit about TP because I have a lot of childhood memories tied to it, but it absolutely pales in comparision to OoT and MM.
I like Pikmin, it’s a great way to adapt RTS to consoles and don’t have anything bad to say about it. I think it’d be unfair to compare it to C&C or AoE because it’s going for something completely different, so I won’t.
F-Zero GX is top 10 racing games ever.
Wave Race is good, too.
Wind Waker, Star Fox and Sunshine are straight up mediocre at best.

>>743811465
>The sky is blue
>SELF EVIDENT THINGS DONT COUNT TRY AGAIN
this is how you sound

>>743811657
>Posts no proof when asked
>twice
You gonna do it?

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>>743811376
It was weird how GTA released on all systems except the Gamecube. Then they just continued that pattern for all their other games. Miyamoto must have fucked the CEO's wife or something.

>>743792106
Its funny how Melee fags still try to argue that it was this "big fighting phenomenon" at the time but nobody who was actually playing fighting games at the time even thought of Melee
https://www.cheapassgamer.com/threads/the-greatest-fighting-game-of-all-time.379/

A bunch of stinky neck beards clinging onto it for 20 years doesn't make it the best fighting game

>>743811735
Nintendo’s audience is not the same as Rockstar’s.

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>>743811725
>>Posts no proof when asked
I already posted a example yet you choose to ignore it
Heres some other example, 2001 GOTY awards and even in a category where most of the competition is shovelware Luigi's mansion lost

i feel gbc got lucky with the best emulator (dolphin) unironically, which in term made it age better

>>743811808
Nintendo's audience used to be everyone
The N64 had tons of mature games

>>743812003
This still doesn't prove your original claim true yet.
Why can't you do it? I'll help you out, fill ij the blanks.
>"My claim is that <blank>. My non-anecdotal proof that this is true is <blank>."
Make sure you include sources.

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>>743812185
What proof are you looking for here exactly?
I provided various examples of the GC's launch games being disappointing
Heres some actual reviews or does that not count either?

>>743812448
And you think that was your original claim?

>>743812525
>My point is that most people were disappointed with the GameCubes launch games
This was the claim i was backing up
You dont really seem to want to engage with anything i posted whatsoever

>>743812745
So where is your non-anectodal proof of this? Again, use this template I made for you.
>>743812185

>>743797621
>gen 6
>greatest generation of gaming
kek. If you're brown, maybe.

I didn't own any consoles in that gen but I preferred going to the friend with the Gamecube instead of the one with the PS2. Just Smash, MK DD and a couple Anime fighters like DB was enough to still make it one of my favorite gaming experiences to this day.

>>743812807
>Forums dating back to gen 6 don't count
>Awards dont count
>Reviews dont count
Ah very well then, it came to me in a dream

>>743784364
>in retrospect
It was the most powerful system at the time

>>743812143
The GameCube was THE toddler console in the public's view since day one. No one who wanted to play "mature games" would get a GameCube, which is why Nintendo did shit like the Resident Evil exclusivity contract, to try to appeal to this audience. Rockstar probably didn't see its userbase as a substantial market, although they did release Chinatown Wars for the DS.

>>743810386
>No single player
lmao when pathetic friendless losers try to rate a multiplayer game

>>743813315
Why are you afraid of using my template? I made it easy for you to win the argument.

>>743813336
>The GameCube was THE toddler console in the public's view since day one.
I genuinely believe had Nintendo just released the black/silver GC's as standard and just kept purple as some special edition then the public perception would have been alot different

>>743813429
Not having a arcade ladder with endings atleast is pretty scummy especially when you're charging full price

>>743813475
Why are you ignoring the evidence i posted?
Are you pretending to be retarded?

>>743813660
Why are you scared of using my template?

>>743813498
While it got more third party support than the 64, it also suffered the same problem as its predecessor: bad controller, less disk space and less sales, which lead to it getting less non-Nintendo games which means less "adult" stuff since Nintendo always goes for family-friendly.

>>743813865
I mean Nintendo did try with that game Geist
I should give it a try someday

>>743785519
>flopped
when did this board become so infested with normalfags who care so fucking much about the financial success of things, it's so fucking embarrassing

>>743784364
>shit controller
>barely any games
vs
>The greatest console ever made with not only the greatest game library but the 2nd best as well thanks to backwards compatibility
It's really not even up to debate. A better debate would be GC vs Xbox as second best but honestly I think XBOX wins that one thanks to Ninja Gaiden.

>>743813498
The games themselves didn't help either. WindWaker (the best Zelda game) was seen as a game for 2 year olds by some.

>>743815337
Even the Xbox got it beat on virtue of sharing alot of third party games with the PS2
I cant imagine missing out on 90% of third party games in the last era western gaming wasnt doomed

>>743815593
Fair point, and those games sometimes ran a bit better compared to the ps2. so yeah I rescind my statement I think GC is clearly at number 3. Maybe we can debate whether or not it was better than the Nokia N-gage or something.

>>743808132
>everyone that likes this controller MUST be a smash autist!
i was gonna shit on this notion but theres actually a very real argument to be made when everyone i've seen that has a gc controller for the switch ONLY uses it for smash

>>743807485
Because every single nintendo console up to that point had released with a flagship mario game. Mario Bros 1, Mario World, Mario 64. People had waited 5 years since the last Mario game and were absolutely expecting one and not "Baby's First Survival Horror: Featuring Luigi From The Super Mario Bros Series!"

It was absolutely a mistake for nintendo to wait until 2003 to finally release the next Mario game. Having said that, the Gamecube probably has one of the most GOATed launch lineups. Rogue Squadron II, Pikmin, Luigi's Mansion, Super Monkey Ball, motherfucking Melee, there was a ton of great games right at launch. But from the perspective of trying to build momentum and sell the gamecube, they absolutely should've been developing Mario as a launch title instead of Luigi's Mansion and/or Pikmin, and developing those games later.

>>743808132
Never understood why the gamecube controller is seen as so vital for smash bros. It has one of the simplest control schemes ever. Anything with two sticks, two triggers, and 3 face buttons can do everything Melee needs. Not to mention using that shitty Z button for grabs sucks ass, and tons of hardcore melee players need to mod their controllers like removing the trigger springs so you can hit your dodges/shields quicker.

I like how comfy the GC controller is to hold, and I do use it for smash bros games simply because I have a million controllers from growing up with the GC (and Wii) but I have never seen it as a necessity.

>>743818524
You hit the nail right on the head
But it wasn't like Nintendo had planned this, Sunshine was hit with constant delays.
Looking back on the GC as a whole, it was Nintendo's most schizophrenic console policy wise

>>743818773
Meant to reply to >>743818243

>>743784364
I have nostalgia for it, but I’ve come to terms that I prefer 2D games, and the gamecube doesn’t have many/any of note.

>>743818957
(Except Melee, of course)

>>743818773
Sunshine was hit with delays, but it certainly doesn't help that they were prioritizing Pikmin and Luigi. This was an avoidable problem, had they focused on having a proper Mario 64 sequel as a launch title.

>>743785519
>flopped
Erm?
Also it could have had tons of other great games. So uhh

>>743784468
I got stuck with a GameCube and it had some pretty great games on it. The PS2 at my friend's house was better, tho, and I'm tired of zoomy tendies who were still gobbling crayons at the time hyping up the former

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>>743818957
Doesn't help that the lack of proper shoulder buttons and the tiniest d-pad imaginable makes playing 2D games practically impossible. Like you're forced to buy a horipad (or clone) if you want to actually use the gameboy player. And I was pissed when I got a horipad thinking I'd be able to use it to play viewtiful joe, only to find out that the game doesn't detect digital shoulder buttons so it's a no-go

>>743819203
Pokemon Colosseum
Pokemon XD
Skies of Arcadia (fuck you it counts)
Baten Kaitos
Baten Kaitos 2
Tales of Symphonia

God the handle so you can fucking take it with you easily was a simple and immaculate design decision

>>743819289
>Baten Kaitos
I only know of this game because G4 absolutely trashed it on tv

>>743784417
if you didn't have at least gamecube an ps2, your '00s sucked. of course ps2 was the last sony worth owning but that whole generation was stellar.

>>743819404
G4 was ground zero for "EUGH, WEEB CRINGE!" that we're still dealing with today

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>>743792502
Id argue Gran Turismo 4 but then i realized the cube had literally NO racing sims on it, nothing , not even TXR
Even the Dreamcast has more grounds to talk about racing games
Cubefags trying to claim it had better racing games is like a toddler trying to claim his tricycle is better than driving a car

>>743819748
>>743819748
>gran turismo
this nerd is arguing against the console that has f zero, mario kart double dash, all the need for speeds and he pulls out fucking grand turismo lol

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>>743820719
>f zero,
Oh wow a arcade racer that can be beat once you cheese a bunch of shortcuts
>Mario kart
Lol, just lol
>All the NFS games
You mean up until most wanted, and the worst ports of the games no less

>>743820719
>he pulls out fucking grand turismo lol
Nigger you speak as if Gran Turismo wasn't one of the best selling and highest rated racing games of the era
The Gamecube had literally no racing sims, you had no reference, you literally speak from a position of sour grapes

>>743806090
I mean now it is, I'm talking when they were at their peak. You know, when I was a kid

>>743788260
Get help.

>>743796356
Psychonauts was also on PS2 tho

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>>743821176
Heres another shit cube port
Yuck

>>743784417
Square > Rectangle

>>743805739
>Halo alone made the Xbox the console to own
You do realize that Xbox was barely over a million units ahead of Gamecube in the end, right?

>>743822982
Not bad for a industry newcomer beating a veteran console maker

>>743820719
Gran Turismo is a game us white kids used to play with our dads (Because of all the cool real life cars in it). Nintendo faggots could never comprehend that.

>>743824447
>our dads
Dont say that word Infront of tendies
Most of them are fatherless wich is why they display fatherless behavior like trooning out later in life

>>743814381
Generation defining games don’t flop anon. Don’t be retarded

>>743789057
>Billy Hatcher
tendies not including this in their gamecube lineup is how you spot the larpers

>>743820719
>f zero, mario kart double dash
Your really not beating that tricycle analogy huh

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I miss that gen.
Warcraft 3 is genuinely the best game ever.
Where did vidya go wrong, bros?

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>>743826221
Physics aside, it was a fun game. Love the setting, as silly as it is, and the levels were fun too. Only one I didn't like as kid was Dino Mountain's first stage, and I chalk that up to the TV in my room being small and not so bright.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92BAidKo6g0

>>743826476
Did you ever have a chance to play the splitscreen with three others? It was a great time. Gamecube was pretty amazing for splitscreen games.

>>743819748
the playstation fan base has never changed from wanting realistic graphics ahead of style, whether that makes the game fun to play or not.
nobody is going back to play GT4 because it's been surpassed, it is nothing special now. F-Zero is still unique and that's why it is still beloved.

>>743826552
Yep, brought it to my Youth Center at the time, they had a GC with four controllers. We mostly played the free for all for like a round or three, but then everyone wanted to play like Mario Party 4-6 and Double Dash.

>>743826685
>nobody is going back to play GT4
Lmao theres a entire online modding scene and lets player still play it
>F-zero is still beloved
Maybe because the series died after GX and is now in the same trashbin Excite Bike lies in

>>743826781
It always goes back to Double Dash with the gamecube multiplayer at some point, no surprise there.

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>>743808624
>J&D was a launch title
Dam good times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xufjHYipgsU
I'm still of the mindset we shouldn't have moved on from Jak 1's world so quickly, but I get that ND was following the trends, especially when the target audience was saying Jak 1 was "for their little brothers".

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>>743826909
ah yes, so I see

im sorry but we live in a cosmic joke world.

in what world are people paying $700 us dollars for a nearly 7 year old console. i just dont get it.

also, who even buys an xbox now that they really no longer even have exclusives. all the games are on pc....

desu i dont even know why people buy a ps5 there's genuinely just no fucking games. demons souls remake is okay but like its basically the same shit as the ps3 game. genuinely just dont get it.

i will say i think big pc towers are soulless and im hoping technology accelerates quick so shit like the rtx spark mini pc takes off. mini pcs are the future even if people dont want to hear that.

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>>743827091
Yeah?

>>743827631
modern consoles are for retards that can't build a PC

>>743826471
The 7th console generation sowed the seeds of the modern industry but it didn’t fully metastasize until 2013 or so. That was when the worst business practices were fully normalized, PC gaming was dead in the water, and Japanese game dev was nearly fully outsourced to western studios.
Honestly the modern day isn’t as bad as it was in the mid 2010’s

>>743811614
>Metroid Prime is slow and floatt and its gameplay pales in comparision to any good FPS
Metroid Prime isn't an FPS. It's a point and click adventure game in first person with platforming.
>Melee is a janky, glitchy, unbalanced mess noticeable even to casuals.
Melee slander exists because casuals see the community and think that it has to be an autistic game to match. Even casually competitive Melee (e.g. at the "low ranked ladder SF6" level) is enjoyable and a breath of fresh air. Try playing Melee netplay on Dolphin. It's still fun and populated to this day.
>Wind Waker, Star Fox and Sunshine are straight up mediocre at best.
Wind Waker is and has always been amazing, and after the blowback of Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess, it became trendy to hate on it again. The game has a much better sense of adventure than both, and it feels like a proper sequel to OoT. MM is my favorite Zelda, but it's really its own thing.
Star Fox ground levels are kinda bad, but Assault's rail shooter levels are N64+ quality.
Sunshine is to this day the most technical 3D Mario, and that filters everyone out.

>>743796356
>Sunshine is dogshit, and Wind Waker is mogged by every other Zelda. That's fact.
No, it's bullshit. Sunshine is fantastic, its levels are very well thought out, its challenges are difficult, and it actually played differently from the other 3D Marios. You can feel that the backlash to its technical jumps was so strong that they streamlined the movement mechanics in Galaxy 1/2, where the complexity came entirely from the level gimmicks and not the core jumping mechanics.
Wind Waker mogs every other mainline 3D Zelda until Breath of the Wild. Its only real challengers were the 2D offerings like Minish Cap, Phantom Hourglass, and A Link Between Worlds.

>>743784364
4 player out the gate. you have friends right?

>>743830151
>Minish Cap, Phantom Hourglass,
Never thought id see the day of people praising the literal Zelda dark age

>>743833251

minish cap was fun albeit short. The DS zelda's were unsalvageable garbage.

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Metroid Prime must've been pretty mindblowing after the n64 honestly.

>>743833251
People who hate Phantom Hourglass are NPCs who can't handle novelty. It was not only a game uniquely suited to its hardware, but it had a very likable cast, varied dungeon gimmicks, perspective tricks, and the central temple with time pressure was the most interesting thing Zelda had done in years.
I felt crazy in 2007 when everyone was dogging on Phantom Hourglass. 20 years later and I realize mainstream gaming tastes had been falling to shallow spectacle in the PS3/360 era.

>>743833251
Minish Cap was fine.
>>743838093
Yeah but it played like shit. There were way better games that used the DS’s unique features.