>>743798190Yes
warhammer 40k i really cool on a macro level. but when you start looking closer at shit like this, especially the modern stuff, it becomes really cringe.
>>743798270That's why I only read fanfics. I don't even know what's canon anymore.
>>743798190>pritranis>space marine
>>743798190Well, they are a walking army of one man armies. I'd say they're anything but cringe.
>>743798190marines are cool, but the people who like them are cringe.you're meant to see them, and KNOW they're silly, which is what makes them cool.the people who like them just see 'wow cool robotman' and fail to see they're meant to be a satirical mirror of baddassery.thats why /tg/ has both the memes of the angry marines, and the sensible marines, the angry marines were what makes space marines fun turned up to 11, sensible marines were what makes makes marines fun turned down to 0both are fun, but for different reasons.also, you're cringe for posting this thread AGAIN
>>743798190They're reasonably cool, but their designs all too often end up looking incredibly stunted and goofy. Most of the resentment towards them (including mine) however is just from there being way too many of them.
41k is cringe 30k is based and epic
>>743798376>they're meant to be a satirical mirror of baddasseryOh, you're one of those faggots who doesn't even know what satire is and that WH40K is not satire. No, a few references and parody characters doesn't suddenly make it satire.
>>743798190Ultrasmurfs are kinda lame but the other chapters are cool.For me as a DoWbabby, the de-facto chapter for me will always be the Blood Ravens. It just feels weird to see the "default" marine colour be anything but red.>>743798376>dude you can only appreiate things through an ironic/satirical veneer - sincerity is cringeI'm so fucking tired of this sentiment that's plagued the internet for the past decade or so. It started in the 2010's around the MLG-montage era, but it's gotten really bad in the 20's.There's nothing wrong with thinking "wow cool robotman" and never going further than that.The problems only start when people take them too seriously - because then you get shit like the retards who use their iconography to larp about real world political issues (who are the other side of the same coin as "disney adults" and the like).
>>743798190They can be both at the same time, given the material.
>>743798481this, but reverse
>>743798190They're neat but if you let yourself be ruled by internet opinions they can be cringe.
>>743798809Defeats the whole purpose when they don't wear a helmet. So fucking childish.
>>743799269They're too cool to wear a helmet.
>>743798190They're cool. They're largely hated by redditors and minorities because they represent european crusader imperialism in distilled form.
>>743798712>>743798743no you irony poisoned retards, back in 3rd ed when i started playing 40k at a teen i thought marines were the coolest thing ever, and i was right.because they ARE the coolest thing ever as a 12 year old.but the empire is literally a satire on space shlock.their god is a corpse who eats a million people a day.their cities are giant ant hills full of criminals, which is why the space marines turn up as turbo cops and blow them up like dredd.then an alien turns up! AND THEY SHOOT THEM TOO, and now theres green aliens that like to fight, and the marines like to fight, so they fight eachother.shit was cool because it was UNIRONICALLY goofy.the issue is more recently they tried to make them a serious group of badasses, they stopped painting their guns (that launch rockets that have been blessed by a robotic priest) red and renamed them from space sharks to 'carcerands' and tried to tell us their plight of genetic villainy is tragic and oh but for the grace of the emperor goes i.but they were cool as angry bitey space monsters working for the good guys while painted like a german ww2 plane.oooh, woe is us, the evil marines (you know they're evil because they have SPIKES) actually were betrayed, and the dead guy was a bad dad.get fucking real retard, 40k was meant to be a joke about space fantasy, and it went over too many peoples heads, and then those retards (fuck you matt ward) got a hold of the IP and tried to explain their 12 year old 'wow cool roboute' mindset as highbrow art instead of literal kids cartoon bright color to push magazies and miniatures.
>>743798190Depends on the chapterDark Angels = basedBlood Angels = gigabasedSpace Wolves = gigacringeand so on
>>743798332It's been over a decade, the manletrines aren't coming back.
>>743798190Space Marines are cool.New shit like Custodes, Thunder Warriors, etc being stronger than Space Marines is cringe as fuck.
>>743798481Yes I do love hearing about all the primarch daddy issues and the Emperor being a reddit tier fedoralord.
>>743798190The whole setting is cringe.>words words words>look at how edgy the universe is>but they're also really LGBT and cripple friendlyand after all that lore telling you how strong the marines are, they do as much damage as anything elseI haven't played FFXIV in a long time because the gameplay is garbage, but I remember the story being very similar - no matter how strong you're supposed to be, you're constantly being pushed around.
>>743798190Primaris are uber cringe
>>743798190Toiletmarine sucksSalamander are peak
>>743799292The helmets are cooler which is why it's cringe.
>>743799467>the personal guard of the fucking emperor being stronger than space marines is cringeAlso where in the fuck have you read that thunder warriors were stronger than space marines?
>>743799685>No, the personal guard of the emperor couldn't just be the best of the best marines. >they have to be special snowflakes And the lore of the game you are pretending to discuss, faggot. Hey, guess what? You know the retarded space marine armor designs from the 80s? Turns out those are canonically better than anything pre-primaris armor too!
>>743798190They carry the entire setting hard. Most factions define their strength and purpose by their history with Marines and how effective they are at fighting them.People who shit on Space Marines are just kind of dimwitted, you know what it's like...It's like those Star Wars fans saying that star wars needs to focus less on the skywalkers and lightsabres and the force. That's what it's like. They're a loose coalition of contrarians and SJWs and they need to be ignored to truly understand 40k
>>743798230fpbp
>>743799921>You know the retarded space marine armor designs from the 80s? Turns out those are canonically better than anything pre-primaris armor too!no shit? 30k tech has alwasy been better than most 40k tech, thats nothing new
>>743799378You are a poor, pathetic soul that has lost any ability to appreciate a thing simply for what it is, and must justify why you like something you clearly think is beneath you. My condolences, you especially dimwitted soul, may you one day find the same joy you once had as a young boy.
>>743799547Still complaining about primaris in 2026 anno domini is way more cringe.
>>743800078I miss the old dreadnaughts
>>743799607Peak reddit maybe.
>>743800181FUCK YOU MATT WARD. YOU COULDNT WRITE OUT OF A PAPER BAG.Have you faggots read first edition? That shit was silly.
>>743800217Those are both new dreadnoughts though.
>>74379848130k and 41k are the same exact shit. Both are cringe hero hammer
Space Marines lost their way. They were initially blood-crazed murder cyborgs. The only loyalists that really still fit this today are the Iron Hands. We need to go back to bulging blood-shot eyes, one arm blasted off with viscera dangling from the shoulder socket; the other still clinging to the boltgun and letting loose an un-ending torrent of hot metal death. Screeching incoherently about death and the extermination of the unclean; with the occassional out-of-tone yet still poetic snippet of a half-remembered hymn to the God-Emperor interrupting the harsh guttural barks of hatred.These warriors are not heroes, and they are not just line soldiers; they are hulking monsters in the vague figure of a man that are sent in as shock-troops to break positions and sow death and discord where once stood a pristine bulwark. They are not graceful and their methods are not clean; they are brutality incarnate, harsh jagged angles to their armour accentuating this thematic truth. These are not knights in shining armour, they are not jovial vikings, and they are certainly not concerned with collateral damage or the lives of civilians; they are blunt instruments of ruin that pummel and smash and take a beating in return, and which just refuse to die out of sheer spite.They are the worst and most monstrous aspects of us all; and what for so many in the modern day is a source of fear, becomes the greatest sanctuary of us all in the far future. Mankind's most terrible features manifest to become our shield against a universe of ravening aliens and thirsting devils; we meet their abominable and monstrous ways with our own, and we tell those misbegotten creatures that hoewever horrorific and vicious they might be; we are worse. We show the terrors of the night that it is they who should fear us. Forever more it will be the face of man that is nightmare fuel to all other creatures that dare exist on our plane of reality; and they shan't exist here long, for we are coming for them.
>>743801009That's fucking retarded considering that a lot of them, mostly first founding chapters, trace back to the existence of the emperor and know that he's not a god, just a really really mighty man.
>>743798190Started cool and got more and more cringe with each new editionMultiplied by the chapter you're talking about tooSo we've gone from cool to moderateFurther multiplied by certain factors such as Ultramarines which is a negative multiplier making them mediocreAlso some have lore which is now shit on by Primaris such as the Lamenters and Blood Ravens so they've gone from okay to thoroughly mediocre tooOn average though, yeah space marines are meh at worst, moderate at best
>>743800217>painted fake scarsgayimagine putting that much effort into painting your minis but being too much of a bitch to take a scalpel and a soldering iron and making authentic real battle scars
>>743798190They are not cringe, so they must be cool. But...some space marines ARE cringe, like space wolves and Cato Sicarius.
IG is cool or cringe?
Tzeentch is cooler
>>743798190not anymore, Space Marines 2.0 killed it for me
They're cool but the people who like them including me are very often cringe
>>74379819040k fans are brony-tier cancer
>>743802669giga cool, being a line trooper against monsters xenos and/or traitors is always cool
>>743798190Cringe unless using old citadel miniatures metal proportions, then they are hella based. Manlet buzz lightyears with guns the size of their entire torso with big ass muzzle brakes. 40k is only good when it's absurd and retarded, hence why orks are the best faction.
>>743798190Cringe part of a cool franchise,
>>743802669They're the most fun to play against
>>743802552Shits gotten even more expensive than it was 20 years ago, anon. Dreadnought used to be like 40 bucks a box, and it's probably double that price now. Inflation mixed with GW being the greediest jews in the market is a poor combination.
>>743801153This is my point. They lost their way and so have you. 40k was best when it was a terrifying and nasty place; and rather than humanity to succumbing to the horrors and monsters that lurked behind every corner, humanity one-upped them and embraced everything that our modern sensibilities tell us that we should reject, and went forth as force more destructive, more hateful and ultimately more monstrous than the aliens and demons that were so foolish as to make us their enemy.Instead you're all 'waaah my space knights don't believe in religion' and its just bloody exhausting and embarrassing. The very heart of 40k has been wrenched out and replaced with this high-fantasy-esque tripe.
>>743803307Only idiot that's lost anything here is you.Space Marines as a concept are a very fluid thing going from edition to edition.Pic related, fucking space marine beatcops, not "le horrors to scare the horrors away" nonsense you're prattling on about.
>>743803307That's just as retarded a take as the other guys and was why 5th edition went nearly full grim derp to the point of actual parody. The setting can have both honorable space knight Space Marine Chapters as well as the grim derp murderhobos in space that are ultra racist atheists, and also a reason why these 2 groups would have serious beef with each other for wildly different interpretations of their duty to the Emperor, the Imperium, and humanity at large. Not everything has to be so black and white, anon. Sometimes it's necessary to have a knight in shining armor fighting back against the encroaching darkness. Otherwise it's just a bunch of retards backstabbing each other forever with no reason to care about any of it.
>>743798190Pre Primaris cool, post Primaris cringe. Gullyman should have stayed dead.
>>743803453My nigger this is what THE preface for the setting: It is the 41st Millennium. For more than a hundred centuries the Emperor of Mankind has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Earth. He is the master of mankind by the will of the gods and master of a million worlds by the might of His inexhaustible armies. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of Technology. He is the Carrion Lord of the vast Imperium of Man for whom a thousand souls are sacrificed every day so that He may never truly die.Yet even in His deathless state, the Emperor continues His eternal vigilance. Mighty battlefleets cross the daemon-infested miasma of the Warp, the only route between distant stars, their way lit by the Astronomican, the psychic manifestation of the Emperor's will. Vast armies give battle in His name on uncounted worlds. Greatest amongst His soldiers are the Adeptus Astartes, the Space Marines, bio-engineered super-warriors. Their comrades in arms are legion: the Imperial Guard and countless planetary defence forces, the ever-vigilant Inquisition and the Tech-priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat to humanity from aliens, heretics, mutants -- and far, far worse.To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be relearned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.
>>743803607Guilliman was never dead though, and even old lore would say shit like it'd look like the stabbing wound he got was shrinking.
>>743798190Why are people so invested in this?There will never be an ending for the story, and it's just plots made up to sell more toys.
>>743803621>wargame has lore that facilitates games of pretend war.Yeah, that checks out. First time in the hobby?
>>743798332>>743799435Primaris's weakest point is the helmet. And even GW with the recent Armagedon box saw that with going back to classic helmet.
They should boost chapter SM number to like ten thousand strong.
>>743803621That's not even the original preface, anon. That's from later shit explicitly hamming up the grimderp.Here's the original from all the way back in Rogue Trader. Yes it's also grim but it's not "you must be da big bad da baddies fear" nonsense.
>>743803556I actually agree, there is space for nuance and compelling sympathetic characters; but 40k is best when they are there only to help us interact with the setting by giving us a familiar mind to witness the events through. The setting loses its identity when you have factions like the Ultramarines and Salamanders who are simplistic heroic good guys. It is handled better with the Dark Angels or Black Templars who in many cases are the good guys that we sympathise with, but there is a harshness and cruelty to them that makes them fit in better.The Iron Hands, rather than being the mocked aberration, should be the norm for the Astartes. Reckless murder-cyborg shock troops that are nigh-unkillable and care nothing for collateral damage so long as they utterly annihilate the hated foe.
I like the Fists and their successors, the Black Templars and Exorcists. Are these guys considered based or cringe?
>>743799467The fuck are you on about Custodes and Thunder Warriors were always stronger than Space Marines.Custodes because they're the guardians of the Emperor himself and handcrafted gene made rather than a Space Marine who is mass produced, splice and cut.Thunder Warriors on a 1v1 were stronger than a Space Marine but their genetics are not as stable, they are not as coordinated, as disciplined as able to work as well in a unit as a Space Marine is. Space Marines are also able to live for hundreds if not thousands of years, Thunder Warriors are not. By the time of their mass culling the remaining Thunder Warriors were already deep in psychosis.
>>743799269>>743799676Because it's the easiest way for the creators to make a character special. And they usualy are protags. And it was so prevalent that people were Geniuenly suprised that 2 named ULTRAMARINE helmetless characters were killed by Genestealer Cults. And most celebrated becasue any time Ultras get hurt MattWard cries and it is good.
>>743798230This
>>743798190Breddy coolPrimaris is still a mistake>but anon that happened years agoif you got shot in the foot years ago would you be more okay with getting shot in the foot today? fuck off
>>743803752There's like a single "classic" helmet option in the box
>>743803658Yeah obviously the kept that open in case they wanted to go back to that well. But his return and Primaris marines damages the game’s lore beyond repair. STCs of civilian vehicles being the backbone of Astartes personell transport was cool! Nobody being truly capable to invent new shit in the empire of man was part of the charm. Fuck Gullyman and his retarded hovertanks.
>>743803892You almost got there, but the Ultramarines or Salamanders or even the Crimson Fists to a lesser extent don't lessen the setting for existing by being more earnest examples of heroism. They improve it by being the incredibly necessary contrast to make people even WANT to care about the setting. It's damned difficult to make people care if everything is just "the bad guys win, and the good guys are just slightly less bad guys because they don't sacrifice babies to evil gods" You're going full grim derp by not realizing this basic truth of story telling. At that point you're just doing a TLOU2 depression porn and frankly that shit is mentally exhausting even in small doses. I'll take my demon hunting super humans fighting a desperate and possibly phyrric battle against otherworldly monsters in the dark over that depressing crap any day.
>>743804049and it was noticed. So if GW follows the money. They will include that more. But that might be wishfull thinking. Cause in the ideal world we would have Packs of diffrent helmets(like MK6) for primaris.
space marines are gay. imperial guard on the other hand have to cart their fuckhuge dick and balls around in wheelbarrows while eldar women throw their moistened panties at them
AOS is cooler than W40k
>>743804298i don't really like either but AoS is a very dull setting
>>743804131hovertanks aren't new inventions though.The pedantic dogma of the mechanicus states that the omnissiah has invented everything that could ever be invented, so "inventing" something new is heretical behavior. In spite this you are allowed to improve upon an existing invention.The perfect example of this is everyone's favorite clanker ostrich, the ironstriders. These were made by taking the seekers of the sydonian mask and strapping on an engine powered by its own movement.Hovertanks fall into that same shit where it's just tank bodies strapped on to hover tech that they apparently had back in m30.
>>743804298C O N T R I A N I A N D E T E C T E D.
>>743804181I agree with you actually but Salamanders are poorly written and detract from the universe, and often but not always, so are the smurfs.Yes we want heroic characters, but people should know the basics of military. If you wanted to save women and children, would you send your long range artillery in to save them?... That's a slight exaggeration on what sending Space Marines in to save women and children is. The Space Marines are shock-troops. They are used to achieve specific and difficult objectives. They are designed for surgical strikes. This is specifically the case in 40k when the legions and broken up and roles clearly defined.It makes sense for Guard to want to save women and children by actively protecting them. The Space Marines save women and children by assassinating warlords, blowing up heavily defended weapon depots, crippling enemy fleets through boarding actions to stop reinforcements coming to a world; that sort of thing.Having Salamanders go out of their way to save a random human and forsaking their primary objective is just poor writing. I do agree that there is a need for heroism, though I think a lot of heroism can be found in simply fighting for the sake of your people; but I am happy for more chivalrous archetypes to be in the setting. Salamanders specifically are just crap though and I will maintain my hateboner for them. Those that act like them will where necessary come under fire too.
>>743804298Not really. AoS's best ideas are worse implementations of shit it stole from warhammer fantasy and the stuff unique to AoS is just bad. I've given it so many tries and really wanted to like it because I love cosmic warriors with an angel motif but the setting just doesn't want anyone to actually like it
>>743804397>Warhammer 40,000 is most popular in the United Kingdom, the United States, and Australia, Germany is the largest European market outside of Great Britain with France behind that of Germany.>Japan is also has a healthy sizeable player base with the popularity expanding in recent years>Countries Warhammer40k is not popular>Warhammer 40,000 is notably unpopular or structurally absent across most of Latin America, Africa, the Middle East, and parts of East Asia (like South Korea). According to financial reports from Games Workshop, regions outside North America, Europe, and Australasia collectively account for less than 5% of global sales>Most of Africa & the Middle EastZero Retail Footprint: Games Workshop has zero official retail stores and virtually no third-party distribution networks across these continentsHAHAHAHA Frog poster blown the fuck out.
>>743804397Uh-oh>>743804735
>>743804628>and the stuff unique to AoS is just badI'd contend that the whole thing of everything being split into planes was good because it helps the setting. GW's incessant need to>have a narrativeand>have the narrative be affected by the ongoings of the tabletop, unless it's an absolute curb stomp that would kill their grimderp like when the Eldar pretty much won the Eye of Terror campaign and therefore should have had a happy endingWould mean that even though the planet that WHFB has been at war with each other for decades in real time, it'd just be nonsensical to the narrative to have anything that isn't skaven still alive. With all the fighting everything should have fallen to the undead or demons, with skaven being the only living thing by way of the fact that they reproduce, well, like rats.
>embarrassed of liking cool things You have to be 18 to post on 4chan.
What makes space marines cool is religiously fueled psychotic hyperviolence, total lack of mercy and no girls allowedWhich is why space king got so popular
>>743798190Dun like the blue ones. Like the green ones better.
>>743805319Not every chapter is the Black Templars.
>>743798190Super cringe but I would imagine the cringe is a huge part of the appeal of Warhammer. It comes across as some 13yo boys fantasies about what cool is.
>>743804909there's nothing cool about this boyslop
>>743798270Basically this.40K is like Batman. Cool from a distance, has some good pieces of media here and there, but the core is incredibly lame on closer inspection.
>>743798190Space Marines are cool. Primaris marines are lame as fuck
>>743798190Cool only when presented like in Astartes>silent>efficient>brutally effectiveAbsolutely cringe if presented by GW because they take their helmets off at every opportunity and wont ever shut the fuck up monologing at eachother about MUH WAR, MUH HARATICS, MUH EMPRAH ad nauseam.
>>743798190Space marines are still cool. However, I am really sick of hearing about Cadia. Every warhammer larper is spamming a variant of the planet broke before the guard fell. Im hearing it darktide. Im hearing it in foxhole.
>>743805409When it comes to xenos and traitors, yes they areAll space marines are mentally programmed to hate anything that isn't a loyalist human, xenos can be tolerated up to a point if its mutualy beneficial but after that's done a chainsword is going up the eldar the xeno's asshole
>>743805559There are three Warhammer 40k stores in my hometown, there are 4 in the next town over north of me, there are 2 GW stores south of me with 3 more who sell WH40K stuff.There is more of a Warhammer 40k presence in my local town than there is in your entire country.
>>743798230Correct. WH """fans""" and the most buck broken cucks on earth lol GW absolutely rinses them and they deserve it.
>>743799921Thunder warriors were murder bros. Astartes were what you could push humans to but still retain their humanity. They were built for long term empire running unlike the thunder warriors who were explicitly designed with a half life because they are so inhuman. Custodes are like space Marines if you treat marines as mass produced vs "hand crafted" custodes. This was always canon
>>743798190It's an overly designed boyslop that is extremely retarded lore-wise
>>743798190No
>>743805752>There is more of a Warhammer 40k presence in my local town than there is in your entire country.Only 4? Embarrassing. Picrel isn't even a full list, it's just to show the search for it is for stores that sell tabletop shit instead of just general hobby stores.
>>743805781>They were built for long term empire running unlike the thunder warriors who were explicitly designed with a half life because they are so inhumanThis is the primary factor of difference between Space Marines and Thunder Warriors. Thunder Warriors were designed to be as strong as possible for short campaigns to unify Earth.Space Marines were designed to be long lived while retaining as much of the Thunder Warriors strength as possible, because their campaigns to unify the galaxy were going to take hundreds of years. Nathanial Garro was 200 years old by the time of Istavan 3? Maybe older I remember him and Lacton Qruze were talking about the concept of time and how old they were comparing time spent in the Warp and spent in real space, that's something completely unsuited for a Thunder Warrior.
>>743805781>Astartes were what you could push humans to but still retain their humanityBut that's custodes.
>>743805672I hate we can't more cool shit like this for 40k overall because the reddit niggers and the npc normalfag nigger cattle are so retarded they can't need constant MUH RELATABILITY that almost everything has to monologue nonstop showing their faces at every opportunity instead of having brutal fast paced war scenes that there's no time for the gay and cringe MCU reddit slop.
>>743805914>Thailand>mtf board games
>>743805914>Local town >Compared to a Capital city>Not one of them are official GW stores in his example>All of them are third party stores>ESL once again proving he's dumb as fuckYeah my local town mogs you and it's a no-named town in the North of England that has more GW stores than your entire country, that has ZERO official GW stores. You don't have a single one. You have hobby stores that have sections which sell WH40K. Again you can't read. Again we have far more third party shops here than your entire country as well.
>>743806241>Local town >Compared to a Capital cityNigger you're the one that literally said your local town has more of a Warhammer40k (not GW) presence than the entire country.Now sit down and shut up and take your beating like the bitch you are, bitch.
>>743798190never forget
>>743798270When Fantasy Flight Games lost the rights to make ttrpgs it was a good canary in the coal mine moment.
>>743806316>ESL still can't read>Still doesn't know there are official stores none of which exist in his country>>743805752Yes there is more of a Warhammer 40k presence in my local town than your entire country.
>>743803892Heroism on a faction scale should come with a harsh, mailed fist. The fact they want to do the right thing can't supercede the necessity to be suspicious of others and enforce authoritarian rules, like in a military. They have the constant threat of rebellion and chaos incursions to deal with, those should be considered while they make their decisions. Different factions can have different answers on his to deal with these threats, but they shouldn't ignore them. Plus, I feel so many ignore status. A normal human can't really ever be an equal to an Astartes, exceptionally rate cases like malchador not withstanding
>>743806241>moving the goalpost from 40k presence to gw storesAnon, just take the L.
>>743806470>ESL can't read Much of the frustration you experience in life is through your own stupidity.
>>743806452Anon, I've proven that there's more 40k related stores in the country than in your podunk town. Whether or not they're GW official is irrelevant, because you never stated "there's more of GW official stores in my town than your country".Tosspot can't even comprehend basic ass sentences his own country invented.
>>743806582>because you never stated "there's more of GW official stores in my town than your country".>There are three Warhammer 40k stores in my hometown, there are 4 in the next town over north of me, there are 2 GW stores south of me with 3 more who sell WH40K stuff.>There is more of a Warhammer 40k presence in my local town than there is in your entire country.
>>743806665Yes, again, warhammer 40k presence, not GW. That means any hobby store that sells warhammer 40k.Is your britbongistan country so distopian that you need a GW loicense to sell 40k shit?
>>743805458Right. I'm not a stepdad I'm the dad that stepped up!
>>743806665
>>743806725>ESL>Deliberately not reading and not understanding things
>>743806776I'm reading it just fine, illiterate sperg. You explicitly said, over and over again, WARHAMMER 40K stores. Not GW official ones. When you got owned, you try to call ESL just because you yourself don't understand that a store doesn't have to be GW official to sell 40k merch.
>>743806725>We 3d printed a bunch of models and sell them in our rinky dink toy store>wot you need a loicence to sell this?Truly African tier.
>>743805458>>743805819Ma'am please explain to the jury why you drew yourself pregnant with a Neurolictor's spawn.
>marinefags were SEA all alongIt all makes sens now
>>743806874deranged schizo boyslop faggot
>>743806868>he thinks you need to be GW official to enter a distribution dealHoly fuck.You think Gamestop makes their own xboxes? Are you really that fucking stupid?
>>743806913Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
>>743804397 oof
>>743806867Your entire country of Zero versus my small town. My small town wins. LMAO
>>743807409>if I move the goalpost, I winsure you did randeep.
>>743806905>the fags always complaining about Primaris were tryhard SEAmonkeys trying to fit inIt makes so much sense now.
>>743806665who is your father?
>>743807456>He's still pretending not to be able to understand thingslol, lmao even. ESLs really are double digit IQ tards.
>>743798190Cringe outside of every media except Dawn of War 1.
>>743807534I understand that you moved the goalpost, rajesh.
So this is the dedicated /pol/ shitshow thread?
>>743799269Their fanatical devotion to the Emperor enables them to fight on even without a head
>>743807684To be fair, sometimes fanatical devotion is all you need.
>>743798190They're cool in a cringe setting.
Everything in 41K is pure cancer and Space Marine 2 was not spared.
>>743806096Yes if you have craft them. Astartes are their mass produced equivalent
>>743805616Those twitter-tier names are so flat and never ever stick, like genuinely jealous inferiors are desperate for anything lolmaoNothing beats good old NIGGER, you can keep on seething now :)
>>743808214>Nothing beats good old NIGGERThey cracka ass massas did.
>>743808027Agreed. Space Marine 2 and nuhammer in general is bland
>>743808214whatever you say cumskin
>does EXACTLY as orderedThat was so easy lol :)
>DanteBreaks his leg falling over lolCries like a bitch multiple timesBegs to die like a babyStruggles with random babbyxenomorphs, fails, has to be bailed out>Gay forest fucker man primarch boy sex with treesAged lolWeakSlowJobs to his own sonHas to be bailed out in his own revival story lmaoToo stupid to answer a riddleHad to be entirely rewritten to not be autistic despite that being his appeal to fit into the new imperium and not be too much of an issue, not even the same character>GirlymanUnkillable combat god (despite apparently being the worst in combat)Too sexy to ageDemons scared shitless of him, even top tiers like KugathOnly had to be rescued by the emp because the emp cares enough to do so and in doing so bitch slapped a god permanently Ultramarines really ARE the best
>>743808214Nig is a twitter word now. Keep up with the times
One thing that is also very stupid about the Primaris Marines, it's that it's very obvious that theya re planning to have a large number of them flipping to Chaos by connecting them to chaos legion's geneseeds.
>>743806745>nooo stop noticing cockroaches infesting your room saaar! >d-don't put us in a gas chamber, y-you are obsessed
>>743804735>United Kingdom, the United States, and Australia, Germany>implying these countries aren't brown
>>743798481>Tourist spotted 30k is the genuine jumping the shark moment for Warhammer, we went from grim dark to marvel.
>>743798190>Are Spacemarines cool or cringe?Depends on how autistic they are (both in presentation as as characters).The more autistic, the less cringe.The more "normie", the more cringe.Space marines should be fucking weird as hell. Any time one appears in a story, you as the audience should be asking yourself "what the fuck is wrong with this guy?" This crazy guy will then ideally do something fucking awesome.
I thought I might like Space Marines if I think of them like Fallout BoS on steroids
>>743809576i don't think that's how green texts are used
warhammer speedran becoming lame and gay, it’s like catholicism from wimpy nu-male feminists
40k is one of those franchises were old=good, new=bad is factually trueeverything about 40k, from the rules to the fanbase WAS better
>Warhammer is Indian>MtG is BrazylianWhat other nerd hobbies are actually for shitskins?
Is it worth to prestige heavy?
>>743804397uuuuhhttps://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=Warhammer%2040k&hl=en&legacy
FUCKING BAR CODE TZEENTCH WHORES SMURFING IN RANKED! I AM BEING GANGSTALKED BY THE RUINOUS POWERS!! FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU CHAOS!
>>743811452google trends is worthless
>>743811760Why?
is the imperium going to run out of space marines any time soon? I swear they drop like flies in every trailers they show up
>>743812298A chapter can only have 1000 full marines but in reality they each have an unlimited number of scouts (trainees) who can fill any vacancies as they appear. So no.
>>743812298No, each Space Marine chapter has to pay a tithe of 1/3 their geneseed back to Holy Terra, that's one reason that started the Badab civil war the Astral Claws no longer wanted to send their geneseed tithe to Terra because Terra refused to send reinforcements to them to help take back a sector. Because they kept their geneseed tithe they were able to quickly grow from 1000 Marines to 3500.
>>743812621>space marines have to send a third of their cum back to earthWhat? How is it extracted? How do they know it's a third? What does terra do with it?
>>743812298You're better off asking if chaos space marines are gonna ran out of retards first. The chaos gods only revive the marines they like and I doubt they have a long list of marines they like. Hell, I'm more surprised Night Lords aren't extinct since they're the most retarded legion of the bunch.
>>743812776Hasn't it been said that CSM reproduce by scavenging geneseed from battlefields?
>>743812736Terra uses the tithe to build new chapters. It's extracted the exact same way. How do they know it's a third because of how it's extracted, how long it takes.
>>743812829That and sekrit Daemonculaba because GW is super edgy.Also random chapters or marines joining chaos.
>>743812298Chapters are just Legions broken into semi-independent, 1k strong regiments.
>>743812959Daemonculaba is one-shot operation and Peter Turbo disapproves of that edgy shit. CSM attrition rate is fucking retarded even if chapters falls to chaos since they love to team kill each other so hard it's not even funny.
>>743812776Why would they run out? Its the same process as normal space marines but without the gay ass tithe the loyalists pay to purposefully bottleneck them
>>743813731Plus Chaos has Fabius Bile who is not only capable of making Chaos Space Marines but clones of Primarchs. As long as he's compensated he can make whatever. That's Chaos's deux ex machina for never running out of CSM, if I remember rightly I think he's dissecting the Primaris Marines now and figuring out how to make Chaos versions.
slophammer is just dbz for westoids
loyalist marines are lame, traitor marines are cool, simple as
>>743813963nah that would be kike shit like the boys or invincible
>>743798712m8 the entire metal heurlant thing is intentionally goofy
>>743813915Geneseed degradation for traitors are worse than loyalist since most of them tend to fuck around with chaos shit. Another thing is they love to kill each other which causes more lost geneseed. Bile at best is a stop gap measure, but like all other traitors he's got his problems of backstabbing and getting backstabbed. He also sees primaris lame and gay, pushes his newmen project ahead.Loyalist might have geneseed tax, but at least it's stored in Mars and Terra that can be used tor produce more marines.
>>743803453marines lol
geneseed is stored in the balls
>>743814341>Another thing is they love to kill each other which causes more lost geneseedOnly if nobody retrieves them and rival geneseed is still useful to get, if only to brother back to the guys you beat for cool shit if you don't plan on using it yourself
>>743798190why haven't they done chaos primaris yet? GW loves money too much to not pump them out so what are they waiting for?
>>743813963>I've trained super hard and now I can beat greater daemon with my super special technique>Oh no, daemon prince that's even stronger than the last guy! And he just destroyed a an entire sector by flexing his pinky finger!>I have to train even super harder now!>I've beaten the daemon prince! Now all the galaxy is safe.>Oh fuck, a super greater daemon prince! And he can wipe out the entire universe by sharting in his pants!>This will be the hardest I've ever trained ever!>Tune in next week to see if Eggplant the Space Marine can beat the Super Greater Daemon Prince!
>>743805781>Thunder warriors were murder bros.They also had a sense of humor.
You know, I have seen a ton of Warhammer media- video games, comics, books and most importantly- toys/plasteel models. But never have I ever seen anyone actually use their toy "armies" play against another player's army. I have seen people play DnD, Pathfinder, MTG, Pokemon, or Duel Masters, but never Warhammer the actual game.
>>743798190They were cool 20 years ago but today they are mostly cringe.
>>743815587lol quirky chungus meme
>>743804575Funny that you mention the "Space Marines save women and children by taking out warlords" as one of the more notable bits of lore about the Crimson Fists is a short story in one of the codexes (codices?) is how Pedro Kantor had to march the remnants of his battered Chapter from their now destroyed fortress monastery on their homeworld to regroup with other Imperial forces after a Ork Waaagh hit the planet. A small woman with children were having difficulties keeping up as a large group of refugees had tagged along, Kantor tells the woman she will be left behind if she can't keep pace. When she inevitably does, he picks her up and carries her and her children the rest of the way. It's small, almost negligible in the grander scheme of things, but reminds you that centuries long super soldiers still have some humanity left in them. They would have to, otherwise they'd be no better than their traitorous brothers, who forsook any bonds of brotherhood and loyalty. Also all the Imperial Fists successors are cool like that. Doing shit, taking brutal beatings, and still trudging on fighting for the Imperium and the immortal Emperor.
>>743798190is it me or the siege mode or whatever is called kills the framerate past wave +15
>>743815587Because the actual tabletop game sucks shit.
>>743815587Try going to your local games store on warhammer night. They usually have one on their calendar. If you aren't in spaces dedicated to hosting games of dozens of plastic toys on very large tables then you probably won't stumble across it. Tabletop rpgs and card games require far less space and luggage and can be played almost anywhere
>>743815587Dumb secondary
>>743815587Transporting some of those minis is a nightmare, both in size and how delicate they are, especially shit like the tyranids
>>743815587Have you tried going outside?
>>743798376Fuck you cool things are cool
>>743803556>Otherwise it's just a bunch of retards backstabbing each other forever with no reason to care about any of it.This is why I don't care about necron lore.
>>743815587If for whatever chance you have, check if there's a GW store near your area. Aside from an occasionally pushy clerk trying to get you to preorder some shit, they will usually have space for games with a lot of the terrain and whatnot free to use as it's often painted by regulars or the staff themselves. You can also try to find a hobby store like some other anon said and see what days they do gatherings for tabletop wargaming. I say wargaming because I used to go to one that also had Warmachine/Hordes and Flames of War players as well.I miss it. Sadly it shut down thanks to the faggotry that was the covid lockdowns.
>>743815775Unironically, the only media where I've seen a space marine act to protect women in a way that didn't feel cringe, was just a short moment from some random video I forget the source of. Some imperial city is under attack, shit's blowing up everywhere, bullets flying in all directions, and a woman is running away from the chaos, her head down while carrying her child. Then the chaos stops, and she looks up to realize that she has run through the space marine lines, and that they're literally blocking the incoming fire with their bodies. It was a pretty awkward scene, with very lumbering marines, but it conveyed the message very well I thought. That's how marines should save people, by literally placing their own bodies between the people and what's coming for them.They should not be doing gay shit like lowering their guard in war zones to avoid shooting civilians, carrying women around like baggage, or losing battles by prioritizing saving children over objectives.
Cringe, not quite Star Wars level of cringe but give the activist black library writers a few more years and we'll be there.
>>743816673Death of Hope and it's a fanfiction animation.
>>743815587I watch them on youtube sometimes because I'm poor so I'll never have the figures to go play myself. It looks like fun.
>>743805673Ok Ranjeet, go back to fucking your monitor lizard
>>743798190Orks da coolest
>>743816673Well you kind of have to protect humans in a more direct way sometimes when that's where you get new recruits from. Not everyone can be like the fucking Mortifactors or the Scythes of the Emperor and just drop down on a planet and kidnap kids of appropriate age to turn into Space Marines.
>>743798190>Are Spacemarines cool?Yes
>>743815861There's a lot on screen...
>>743817881See here>>743813308
>>743801009I might have known that the best effortpost I've seen this year would be on a /tg/ adjacent topic.
>>743798190They're lame and most chapters are the same thing but a different color. Doomtroopers are way cooler.
spess sharks a BEST
>>743815112Probably featured in whatever the post-Cadia push is, followed by more primarchs arriving to beat them up :)
>>743804298AoS originals are SHIT, but the updated old factions are cool, like lizardmen, night goblins and now ogre kingdoms.
>>743805673Jeets got enslaved by Aryans, who were White people from Europe.By your jeet history cope logic, South American spics are Spaniards.
>>743815587Because the actual game sucks. People only "play" it as an excuse to show off their hand painted armies.
>>743822117Delusional take to glaze fat retards this much.And lizards were cool because they played into their new lore with the whole flesh vs demon duality with many kits having more primitive and more sci-fi build to show it off.
>>743816673>carrying women around like baggageI don't understand the big deal on this one. If the marines and civiliians are in a marching retreat, it doesn't seem like it'd be all that much of an inconvenience or out of character too much.
>>743798190I think they are the coolest fictional characters in all of literature. Especially the primarchs.
>>743798190some are cool, like the DoW 1 chaplainshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ5s81NRdQEmost modern depictions of space marines are meh tho, you can feel the capeshit influence flowing throught them and i despise that
>>743824015Ogres look great, they just need headswaps because the new ones look like toddlers.And sci-fi builds for lizards, the fuck are you on about? Kroq-cars metal arm? That's been there since fantasy.
>>743798190Cool. Especially when they wear those stupid head sarcophagus looking things that expose their face.
>>743824862really angry dudes in armor and le brotherhood is the coolest thing you have seen?
>>743803752Wrong Primaris's weakest point is actually their retarded lore.
>>743825928>they just need headswaps because the new ones look like toddlers.New ones have adult head to body ratios. The old heroic scale ones had 2 year old proportions
>>743827507Yeah and chaos as well.
>>743798190Cringe redditor shit
>>743806182>>743805672Whatever happened to the creator of Astartes?
>>743798190Depends on the Legion. I typically find that Blood Angel and Black Templar fans in particular are generally pretty cringe because there's a lot of crossover there with irl politics and Christianity, which tends to attract unironic chuds and larpers.
Does anyone else have “phases” of what there into? Like, 2 years ago I was super into 40k but not currently. I’m currently into tactical shooters but who knows how long that will be for. These phases can last months or years. One year could be zombies, another year could be fantasy, next year could be Star Wars, after that could be going back to being obsessed with 40k. I just don’t stay put in one genre or fandom. Is this normal?
>>743812776>chaos space marines are gonna ran out of retards first.CSM lasting longer makes sense because at this point they're thousands of years old due to warp shenanigans and are extremely experienced fighters. Primaris loyalists have better equipment but lack of real combat experience, especially against other space marines.
>>743798190They have been both, it depends on who is writing them and the situation. People tend to hate them due to a mix of anger over the favoritism they get from GW as well as them being pretty generic a lot of the time. But some of the best 40k stuff is about them.
>>743815587I go to a gaming club every week and see people playing 40k, fantasy, and other war games. Not to mention I have seen tournaments as well. People do it, you just don’t hang around in those circles.
>>743830507imo its actually becoming more popular due to the enshittification of traditional video games over the recent years
>>743824862The primarchs are kinda dumb like 60% of the time
I don't like how the orks behave in this game, especially the warboss. they are too grumpy and serious, they should be having the time of their lives
>>743798190Nu-hammer is shit. We didn't gatekeep hard enough, so all the post-6th ed zoomers got catered to and now the whole setting is neutered family friendly capeshit tier slop.WHFB still remains largely unmolested.
>>743833069>Fag ruins hundreds of dollars worth of models to push to virtue signal real world gender politicsGood luck playing with these colors in any place other than your own little friendgroup of gays.
>>743798190Only the primaris and maybe grey knights are cringe
>>743833540I mean for most of those nobody who is not mentally ill would even recognize or associate it with gender politics garbage. Like if you just see this you don't think there's anything wrong with it.
>>74379848130k is pure MCU bullshit. Not everything have to explained. The Heresy should have remain a blurry myth.
>>743833069>>743834228I wouldn't be surprised if these were actually played as some Emperor's Children loyalist offshoot chapter.
I don't know anything about WH40K except someone linked me to a book passage >"This death is ours. We choose it. We deny you your victory." Before blowing himself and his friend up when a virus started melting them and from that alone I think they are fucking awesome.
>>743828372No not anymore. The whole Internet likes the same five things and will talk about them for years after they've become stale. Get ready for the same endless 40k spam threads for another decade.
>>743831592Yeah, I like that they exist tho and it adds to the history of the lore and stuff.
>>743827507name 50 cooler
>>743834228What chapter is that? What's their codex? What's their rules? I just proved you don't play because that's literally the first question you get asked if you're wanting to play with people. Also most places don't allow homebrews so good luck.
>>743836398Nobody gives a fuck you painted your space marines with a custom chapter color.
>>743798190Used to be until later editions made them cringe...and then we have the apex which is the Primaris Marines.
>>743837298Yes they do, what chapter? How am I supposed to play against you not knowing what chapter and what rules/ codex for the game? Outing yourself here Secondry.
>>743836398>>743837454>Ultramarine successor chapter with their codexThere, what now?
>>743837538Which one? What's their name so I can look them up to make sure they're official and not some weird Homebrew and that you're using official models, that the chapter is lore accurate.
>>743798190They look like toys. Like Rescue Heroes.
>>743837454My god dude stop trying so fucking hard to flex you play the game, we all do. Jesus Christ, I haven't seen someone trying this hard in a while. You pick the actual faction that corresponds to the army you built. Nobody gives a fuck about the painting.I've played chaos space marines with night lord paintings on them and nobody was like "uhhh do night lords have different rules" it's just fucking chaos space marines dude they dark pact it's the same shit. Lord almighty, have mercy.
>>743837756You're defending this, you're a moron.>>743833069
>>743798190I really like the setting and vidya but I will never understand getting behind the tabletop
>>743803916I would call them cringe but for whatever fucking reason they have the best art/most dedicated artists in my opinion
>>743828372yes, thats normal.
I only like the terminators and titans.
>>743828372Yes, you are a normalnigger.
>>743798190Theyre cool when theyre almost unknowable literally 1 in 10 trillion demigods that have by necessity already left absolutely everything on the alter of protecting humanity and theyre cringe when they have relatable emotions and undercuts
I just want to live in a world where Warhammer, Star Wars, Star Trek, and D&D are all healthy, is that really too much to ask?
>>743834228Well the issue with this is that the person who would've gone out of their way to paint minis in the color of a bunch of gay ass flags isn't going to just leave it as a little secret. They're going to scream about it to make sure you know what those color schemes represent, and even if you could compliment them just on the mechanical skill needed to paint them well is gone because it's all one big gay dick waving moment. So it's still some faggot being mentally ill while wasting a lot of money and time to do it.Very on brand for a tranny, when you think about it.
>sees Primaris marines of the Imperial Fists for the first time>removes own helmet and draws sword>declares himself and demands a duel>Imperial Fist captain removes his helmet and starts to declare his name and title>quickdraw your boltpistol and shoot the Fist in the headJust another day in the Sneaky Legion.
>>743838503Warhammer is making more money than ever before and the fluff was always 90% bullshit so what do you mean by "healty"?
>>743839196I want them all to be healthy at the same time
