This opened my mind. I'm never playing a Japanese game ever again!
>>743805959>he plays games because of the story
>>743805959>the japanese literally cannot write a story of adventure unless parents are dead or out of the pictureFunny, considering half the fantasy/isekai shit I follow r/n has at least one parent of the MC if not both, alive and happy. Some bring in one or both parents of supporting characters. One the MC is a mom, and I know of(but didn't like) at least four others like that, etc.Whether it's good story or not, eye of beholder shit, and as long as it's entertaining, doesn't matter too much. But they're definitely writing happy parents with good relationships with their kids.I'll give him it's less common in vidya, but OP pic decided to play the "japanese can't do it at all" card, so I'll call him out as the rat's-ass liar he is.
>>743805959Based Japs
>>743805959They're fake tropes. They're not anywhere near as common as people pretend they are, but because they were in a few popular titles, people pretend they're everywhere.
Anyone else just tired of racism?
>>743807912Nah, I am going to shit on Blacks and Americans anytime they should be shitted on
>>743806403do you follow any fantasy/isekai shit where the story actually goes anywhere after the initial "oh this seems mildly interesting"?
>>743805959>I need to see the parents handholding the MC throughout the whole gameWhat kind of virgin wrote this?
>>743805959Does this retard know Japan makes games besides JRPGs?
>>743805959I never really pay attention to tropes and I feel like it makes my media experience 10000 times better
>It's so pathetic how anti-family Japanese media islolwut
Semi-related but I've always hated japanese animated movies because of the insistence on having a sad or bittersweet ending.>boy needs to go on some adventure to save his grandma or whatever the fuck>grand adventure, makes new friends, does dangerous shit, saves his grandma>woops nvm despite getting her the cure to her mega death grandma disease she dies of old age in the last 5 minutes>cut to sweeping shots of the landscape while bittersweet music plays
>i want game to be a safe family-friendly (literally) sitcomslop to help w/ gay parental issues
>>743805959Kiwitrannies are more mentally ill than people they stalk.
>>743805959>>743807817>>743809935>>743810683>t. Salaryman who works 17 hour days at a black company and seethes at the happy immigrant family for actually spending time togetherEnjoy your prime minister who says she gets two hours of sleep a night lol
im sick of my heroes fighting the big grand power that rules over the land, they should be fighting random fucking little bandits and stuff!
>>743812559I mean, no sleep is part of the job requirement of being the head of state.
>>743805959>Japanese media>anti-family
>>743805959>projecting kiwitroon is retarded fork found in kitchen
>>743805959oh yeah fuck japanese fiction. it's too radicalizing to youthunlike western fiction media of course
>>743812993I don't think a head of state should have the mindset of "I need to do everything personally." That's a sign of being a shitty leader, that you can't delegate.
>>743805959There are 99 reasons to eschew vapid weebshit, but denigrating the anti-White jewish slave cult for retarded browns of chr*stcuckoldry is not one of them.
>>743805959>muh heckin christian traditionsBurgeroids are no better than arabs.
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>>743809708The vending machine anime actually developed a story arc and concluded within 3 seasons. It started in a way that felt like an excuse for trivia and aventure but at the end of season 1 it presented its main conflict and focused on it entirely for the two next seasons.I liked it a lot more than I expected.
>>743805959The idea of parents being in the way of adventure is much older than Anime. Star Wars call to Adventure could only happen after Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru were killed by the Empire. Star Wars was INCREDIBLY popular in Japan and a lot of the famous JRPG makers were influenced by it. There's a reason Final Fantasy 2 is basically Star Wars but Midieval Fantasy as opposed to Space Fantasy.
>>743805959Yay schizo apocalyptic desert cult
japan is worse in writing though. its pretty much always teens vs god in the end. besides yakuza jrpgs i cant think of well written Japanese games.
>>743805959Spoken like a man who seemingly only plays JRPGs.
>>743813614I think the writing in Castlevania is consistently good. Rondo/SOTN being a highlight. Great theatrical dialogue.
>play Pokemon>mom is right there>dad is at work>finally meet dad>he says good luck son>later you get to fight dad>he's a normal type trainerEven when I was a kid I knew it was based as fuck. Not the family thing but the normal type gym. I literally said based under my breath involuntarily when I saw Slaking and this was before people said that so you know it was serious.
>picture of textdidn't read
>>743813614Armored Core usually has at least competent writing. It's really just the slopped out anime games and jarpigs (the overlap in particular) that are just the dripping shits nadir of writing, especially in the last 20 years.
>WAHHH WHY DO PEOPLE HATE MY RACIST SEXIST DEATH CULTAlways the same with christcucks
>>743813842You're joking? There's a reason why everyone makes fun of the awfully awkward dialogue at the start of SOTN.
>>743805959fucking anime parents now feel left out
>>743812993truman slept in 4 hour naps scattered chronically across his presidency
>>743805959>christcuck retard rantLmao
>>743805959>fucking fuck fucking fuck fuck fuck>by Johnny, age 9
>>743814327the voice acting
>>743814434even though he has a point and japslop is tired at this point
>>743814327>awfully awkwardit's kino, you're just too low IQ to understand it and thus you call it "le cringe"
>>743805959That's why you change up your origin of vidya from time to time, to get another set of stale tropes you shouldn't take too seriously.
>Dragon Quest and Pokemon are like the most popular JRPGs of all time>loads of parents>government is always goodFag watched one Persona which is explicitly about outcast children growing up and extrapolated it to every Japanese game
>>743805959>christcuck hipster babbleBeing ironic isn't a personality.
>>743814656>Fag watched one Persona which is explicitly about outcast children growing up and extrapolated it to every Japanese game/v/ does this too
>>743805959>This opened my mind. I'm never playing a Japanese game ever again!Another retard that can't separate fiction from reality.
>>743814327I don't remember anyone making fun of the japanese writing at the start of SOTN. Surely you're not judging an entire country's writing output based on largely inaccurate and poorly acted translations?
>>743805959>jew seethes at JapanAs sure as the sun rises.
>>743805959Japs have always had a problem with "muh tradition" and trying new things. this isn't endemic to video games.
>>743814513>>743814564Good lord. Go read the dialogue. It reads like (because it is) awfully translated japanese. It not only sounds awkward but fails the lines fail to follow a logical chain. Can't believe you actually thought people were quoting it because they thought it was good.
>>743805959>These games are basically turning kids against their parents and Christianity >Video games cause school shootings>Video games make your kids worship Satan>Video games blah blah blahFuck off you pearl clutching faggot.
>this will surely turn the tides and stop the browns from outbreeding us and taking over the westHoly shit, christians aresuchfuckingKEKS
>>743813540No one wants to go on an adventure with their parents. Earthbound is Japanese and both of Ness's parents are alive and well. Calling both of them regularly is a game mechanic. But they're not there with him on his adventure because that would be incredibly lame.
>>743814264>MY RACIST SEXIST DEATH CULTislam?
>>743815018Yeah but is Earthbound mainstream? Plus it's also very Japanese in that the Father is never around.
>>743805959>being a christcuck in big 2026lmao
>>743814264But enough about Islam.
>>743814805The "What is a man? a miserable pile of secrets!" line was literally stolen from an old book because the translator fancied so. Are you gonna blame the Japs for that too?
>>743815223What was the original Japanese lines for that scene?
>>743815379>くだらん。>どちらが正しいか、死をもって解らせてやる。It's a "might makes right" / "history is written by the victors" kind of statement. There's no commentary on human nature at that moment. The "debate is futile, let's just fight" sentiment is preserved at the end through "enough talk, have at you", but the main focus of that line is shifted to something he took out of his ass.
>>743805959>he worships the demiurgeLmao
>>743806113He's clearly talking about JRPGs and one thing that JRPGs don't have is gameplay. So if the story isn't enjoyable, nothing really is.Some claim that music or waifus are worth it, but there's plenty of good music and fap bait out there so no need to waste time with a fucking JRPG just for that.
Ah yes, Phil Fish. I remember the shit you'd say about Japanese games while proclaiming his (stolen) little indie game Fez the most amazing game ever no japanese developers could ever have made Fez. He was always such a bigoted, arrogant Californian twat.
>>743815116>is Earthbound mainstream?Decently so. But even if it wasn't, Pokemon games are as mainstream as it gets and they're similar. You have a still living mother who sees you off on your adventure, in some games staying in contact. There's usually not much said about your father. But he's not said to be dead, either. So he's implicitly a stereotypical Japanese salaryman dad that is never home.
>>743815116>Yeah but is Earthbound mainstream?Yes EarthBound is in fact incredibly fucking mainstream you dimwit
Do you know what "turned me against my parents and Christianity?"Being forced to go to church as a kid. Got even worse when my mom put my brother and I in a private Christian school which was literally filled with a bunch of little troublemakers who got kicked out or got into trouble in public schools.Here's a good example of why indoctrinating children is a retarded idea: when I was 6 years old, in first grade, we did an hour of 'Chapel' every day, basically an hour of church. But because chapel was right before match, which I didn't like as a 6 year old, I quickly figured out that I could game the system by "staying after chapel to rededicate my life to Christ" as a fucking 6 year old. It actually WORKED 5 days in a row, and only started to get doubted when my friend Andrew started doing it with me because he also hated math.You can't make a 6 year old consider the philosophical implications of life and death. Eternal life means nothing to a child. And if you force-feed one religion in a free society, you will immediately brand religion as being "uncool" because it's associated with the thing that your parents (undoubtedly uncool) are forcing you into.People really don't understand child psychology at all when it comes to their own kids. It's like they've entirely forgotten how they used to feel when they were young.
I mean all the classic childrens stories and fables by Disney, Hans Christian Anderson ect. all either start with the parents dead or they die during the coarse of the story its hardly a Eastern trope.
>>743805959>It's pathetic how anti-family Japanese media isThis retard doesn't know what he's talking about lol.
>>743816843you thought those things because you were indoctrinated into thinking that listening to your parents is wrong. chirstian propaganda just lost to capitalistic propaganda.
>>743817031I wasn't indoctrinated by anything at 6, you retard. The crux of my opinionated thought was: dinosaurs are cool.
>>743815018Pokemon as well
>>743817107why do you think you thought dinosaurs are cool, retard? you define propaganda to be such a limited thing so that you can pretend you're not affected by it.
This guy is more or less correct when you get past the rant, Japanese writing loves to take something that worked once and run it into the ground forever. It's like how their VAs have basically 6 stock character voice types that everyone uses, once they find something that works they'll use it forever unless some huge external force makes them change. Japanese audiences seem to prefer this too, they don't like the unexpected.
is it fucked that I can recognize the site as kiwi just from the fact that I've seen that shit plastered on /v/ over the yearssimilar to how I've never used twitter but I can tell when it's a twitter screencap the moment I see it, even if it's cropped to the point where it's just the "curved" edges of the thumbnail of an image on it
>>743805959>why don't those dirty Japs write coming of age adventures where the hero's mom and dad come along? Don't they know it's anti-family?Score another for the Japanese against the uber-fragile pop-Christians who also complain about "killing god" in every JRPG
>>743805959He doesn't recognize western tropes because he lives in the west. The west is even worse at recycled themes.>suburban boredom turning chaotic>road trips/endless highways>post-apocalypse worlds>open wilderness>fridged wives/girlfriends>male is always the butt of the joke>traumatized veterans>flawed everyman dads>rugged individualism>Thanksgiving/Christmas family drama>parades>patriotism / military heroism>football>barbecues>diners>roadhouse culture>American exceptionalism>corporate greed & conspiracy>frontier justice & outlaws>immigrant/melting pot struggles>nostalgic 80s/90s Americana
>>743805959In western games the parents are still alive and their kids treat them like a nuisance or outright despise them
>>743805959>I played 3 Japanese games bro, trust me
>>743817371Because I was an innocent 6 year old child and I looked at dinosaurs and thought they looked cool.Your argument seems to be that there is no innocence and that all you do is get assailed by propaganda from the moment you leave the womb which is a very convenient philosophy to explain away any sort of responsibility for having free will.
>>743807912no, it's just you
>>743818673>that all you do is get assailed by propaganda from the moment you leave the wombThat's true thoughBut it probably didn't have anything to do with you liking dinosaurs
>>743805959meanwhile every sony game is using the triggers. its either racing, shooting, spiderman or the same parry slop games. it doesn't even have the we're experimenting with a new generation of tech charm that isn't nintendo hardwareslop anymore
>>743805959who wrote this? null?
>>743816843You believe your 6 year old self has made the best decision for your future self? That’s great. I hope it works out for you lol
oh great just what we need, more christfag larpers who grew up watching gore on the internetyou're not fooling god and you sure as hell arent fooling me
>>743819010We love gore. Raping after killing is better because then you can use the blood as lubricant
>>743818927No. My point is the opposite.My point is that 6 year olds can't/won't even countenance the sort of thinking that is required to become a Christian, or a Muslim, or anything else really. You can't make a child think about their immortal soul and even understand what it is. Those concepts are beyond children, and when you force them to constantly confront those thoughts, you're doing little more than creating a bad association, and planting a seed for them to never consider such beliefs credible or worth exploring.True conviction in one's faith is something that only an adult in crisis can understand and achieve and anything you do to try to square peg/round hole a child into becoming religious is just going to make them more likely to NOT be religious.
>>743805959nice try, but I know the real reason
People pretending like this isn't the case when way too many of you are godless lolifags jerking off to pictures of little kids and not making babies. It's grim.
>>743807912nope, millions must go. shouldn't have come here to rape and murder.
>>743817750I still don't understand their apoplectic seethe over Japan and Japanese games.
>>743805959>Muh Christian religion>Muh benevolent (American) EmpireLmao
>>743819585Doubly so for the kiwifags
>>743805959This is legitimately right and accurately describes a huge part of what always appealed to me about Japanese media. The way it doesn't give a damn about "Christian family values" is just so refreshing and freeing compared to the media you get from the west, and America in particular.
>>743819873I mean why would they give a fuck about "Christian values" in the first place? Do American make their shit with "Muslim values" in mind?
>>743819585why would i not be godless when god isnt real
>>743819873I don't understand people who despise their own culture
>>743820134America has no set culture, it's a melting pot
>>743805959Has this person tried.... not playing Japanese video games?
Name one nip game to unironically do the le evil church thing. Even SMT backed off from this.
>>743819782>their apoplectic seethe over Japan and Japanese games.wutit's full of fucking weebsthe vtuber board is the fastest moving onethe anime thread in multimedia is the second highest in postshere, i'll communicate in the /v/ language of twitter screencaps
>>743819782It's because Null publicly hates anime, so they go along with it to stay on his good side. That's it.
>>743820203Tales of Berseria did it.
>>743819873Japanese games do care about communal values, that's why found family and friendship is such a prevailing theme. The Japanese concept of Gods is different to the western view, to them the idea of God represents the nature of society rather than as an untouchable abstract overseer; many Gods in japanese games are used as unironic metaphors for society and societal forces. For context the emperor of Japan used to be seen as divinity incarnate right up until Japan lost during World War 2 when America outlawed the shinto religion and forced the emperor to denounce his divinity.
>>743820134>I don't understand people who despise their own culture>>743820169America isn't le country, it is LE IDEA! xD
>>743820203Doesn't FF13 have you fight the pope or something?
>>743820134I'm neither American, nor Christian, so why should I submit to people like you who think everything should be like this by default?
>>743805959>those damn japs are all anti-family, fuck them!>picrel>NOOOO WHY ARE YOU PROMOTING A HEALTHY FAMILYThe missing parents shit in RPGs is mainly to justify why the protagonists are able to do whatever they want without having to explain shit all the time, what a surprise.
>>743805959The Ur-Japgame, Dragon Quest III, has an alive mother you can visit whenever you want.
>>743805959Don't get me started on all the plots where they want to fuck their sisterThere's your family values OP
>>743820203FFX
>>743820134jesus was a jew.
>>743815116I'm a huge Earthbound fan. Should I play it?
>>743819782>>743820243In fact, searching up the OP post leads it to being in the "Autistic Thunderdome" which is LITERALLY just /pol/: kiwi editionand this isn't me making up some opinion piece either, the fat fuck that hosts the website straight up just called the place the>unfun polnigger tourist containment
>>743820434There are lots of based JewsJeffery Epstein was also Jewish
>>743820169And look what it has done for America.>le melding bodd :ddddd
>>743819782The site is full of larping christcucks (they haven't attended church in 10+ years)Its incredibly gay they pretend to be edgy fags AND moral busybody puritans at the same time, jesus christ nigger pick a lane at least.
>>743820419You can disagree with Yu Yevon's ideals, but evil? I wouldn't say so.
>>743820169>I need to turn to Japanese media to get away from "Christian family values", which American media is full of>but America doesn't have a set culture, it's a melting potOkay
>>743820434>jesus was a jewThe jews hated and murdered him thoughbeit
>>743805959Bro, games in Japan are for 13-20/30Not for 50 years dudes
>>743820332>I'm neither American, nor ChristianThen it's not your own culture you're despising and the post doesn't apply to you, does it?
>>743819782Heterosexuality. It happened, it happens, and it will happen in other media as well.
>>743820593People can be edgy fags and still reject the civilizational rot you apparently love so much
>>743822112>reject the civilizational rotBrother YOU are the civilisation rot as wellIs that irony not lost on you?
>>743822282There are many ways I need to do better anon, but I'm not actively working to destroy it like you are.
>>743807912I used to think jews were the reason everything suckedAs I got older now I realized actually the Americans are to blame
Kiwifarms has got to be one of the stupidest communities on the internet.
>>743822602I don't really have much to say, enjoy saving le west by being a fat retard on the internet. You'll make good progress I'm sure.
>>743819709>Billions
>>743820303If you want to talk about something that has been utterly destructive to western thought, your post is actually a great example but for none of the reasons you're aware of.It's this idea of being a "cuck" if you care about ANYTHING in life that doesn't directly benefit you, if you have any sort of passion for any issue that is not yourself, if you take responsibility and try to give a directionless child direction and guidance, if you try to do the right thing ever and put yourself at risk to do so -- you are a cuck. THAT idea has been destructive to western thought.Think about how insidious it is, to weaponize giving a shit about things, or trying to make the world a better place, or make some kid a better human being for the sake of the whole. That is far worse than any kike agenda or anything else you want to rattle your saber about and it's infected the minds of an entire generation of losers -- all so that they can make themselves feel better, because it's manly not to give a shit about anything but yourself apparently.
>>743805959I also don't like anime or japanese media because of their tropes, though it has nothing to do with some sort of projected christcuck victim complex
>>743812994westoids can't fathom that other cultures do things differently and have different perceptions.They would seethe if japs started pointing out their tired tropes and somehow try to argue it's different and doesn't count
>>743822901I am already having some success, thanks!>le westIt almost sounds like you don't like the west or somethingSurely that couldn't be the case?
>>743818637Persona 3, Persona 4, Persona 5... the list goes on
>>743823254>It's this idea of being a "cuck" if you care about ANYTHING in life that doesn't directly benefit you, if you have any sort of passion for any issue that is not yourself, if you take responsibility and try to give a directionless child direction and guidance, if you try to do the right thing ever and put yourself at risk to do so -- you are a cuck. THAT idea has been destructive to western thought.That's just an overreaction to suicidal empathy and the collective vilification of self-interest (in white males). But it hasn't been around long or gained enough of a foothold to be destructive imo. But I agree that it has unsettling ramifications for the future.It's still less destructive than the globohomo "no self interest allowed unless you're a minority or a wealthy elite" attitude. The correction is necessary, even if it's an overcorrection.
>>743805959
Being an orphan is anti-natalist now?
>>743823254Because encouraging single mothers is an even worse destructive force.You need to stop the source, not solve the problems the source creates.
>>743805959being pro-family is such a bizarre political position to stake out.Parents molesting their children was defacto legal until like "40 fucking years ago." Marital rape was legal. Family is not some eternally noble tradition that hasn't changed, for the better, with modernity.
>>743812795Unironically that would be pretty cool. Being a goblin slaying judge dread road warrior wandering and killing evil. No over the top world changing just lots of little violent stories and battles against chaos and evil.
>>743806403Naroukei is different as a majority of the appeal is a form of wish fulfillment and daily life.A lot of Japanese dramatic fantasy is "the parents are dead or non-existent". To look at Dragon Quest for example>DQ1No parents>DQ2 Parents but they're kings and queens and don't matter (Moonbrooke's dad is dead though)>DQ3Dad dies in the last leg of the adventure after being out of your life for over a decade.>DQ4Whole village dies.>DQ5Your dad dies in front of you in the first act, mother basically kills herself in the last.After that point the series kind of goes to "your parents are just hanging out" until like 11 I think. Often they're basically non-existent though.In the Final Fantasy series though>FF1Not around.>FF2Dead.>FF3Presumed dead.>FF4Dead.>FF5Dead.>FF6Dead.>FF7Dead.>FF8Mother is dead, father fulfills the trope of "interacts with but never recognizes his son" if I recall.>FF9No parents if I recall.>FF10Dead.>FF11Unknown.>FF12Dead.>FF13Dead.>FF14Unknown.>FF15Dead.>FF16Dead.
>>743806403>>743824568These are established franchises though. I do also watch plenty of fantasy anime and they tend towards the "parents don't matter" side lately for reasons I already mentioned. Your joyous carefree fantasy life doesn't work if your parents are dead (or telling you to get a real job).Going down my list>Hell Mode (Current)Parents are alive and active in the plot on occasion.>Champignon no Majo (2026)No parents.>Okiraku (2026)Dad is evil or something.>Kizoku Tensei (2026)This show is fucking hilarious. Dad (no mom) is active in the story and his role is purely to watch the main character do something and then go "Yes yes, very smart of you MY FAVOURITE SON, you shall be the next king", every single episode without fail. >Kunon (2026)Very much alive parents who just hang out.>Assassin Isekai (2025)Dad is dead, mom has cancer or something, they're not in the story.>Mugen Gacha (2025)Not an isekai, and the parents are dead. Surprised this show isn't seen more on /v/, its thesis is basically "Every race except human is evil".>Dainanaouji (2025)Alive but irrelevant parents.>ShirobutaAlive but somewhat evil parents.>Samurai-den YaibaNo mom, dad's a drunk.Overall, the trend seems to still just be ignoring the parents and again, very few outright kill them because the type of fantasy in these naroukei works is one of laidback and chill fantasy.
>>743824568i think it got lost in becoming a tradition/trope. But westerners see this as anti-family, while i think japs use it as a device to emphasize the seriousness of losing your family and being alone.
>>743805959>This opened my mindYou mean 'closed my mind'.
>>743824158Family is everything. If you have such a bad one that you don't understand this, I'm sorry for you.
>>743805959>The Japanese literally cannot write a story of adventure unless parents are dead or out of the picture, and this gives the impression to young people that life cannot be exciting until parents are out of the picture.I will be the first to decry how tiresome a lot of Japanese tropes are, but this is an exceptionally retarded take (along with this entire screed). The purpose behind the trope is fucking obviously not FAMILY BAD, it's almost always used to set the protagonist up as someone that's faced some hardship and been forced to find their own way in the world, which preconfigures them to go on a journey where they grow as a person (in lieu of the growth their parents would have provided for them). For a very similar reason, there's also a lot of Japanese games where the protagonist's mother is present but the father is absent--it allows the journey itself to be the source of personal growth for the protagonist. You can say it's overused or cliche, but it's obviously not intended to send the message that your parents have to be dead for life to be exciting. It's also kind of insane to pin this Japanese media--the overwhelming majority of western media also makes zero mention of the protagonist's parents, because it also recognizes the obvious truth that people grow into adults, become independent agents, and learn to face hardship on their own, and that often makes for a more compelling story than if the protagonist runs to their parents to help them through conflict.
>>743809935what's funny is that every single JRPG aped off a western rpg concept, usually not even trying to hide it
>>743820243>>743820479I was talking about the kiwifags, but another anon gave a decent answer.>>743820246
>>743825104let's not pretend the west cared about Wizardry
>Green reddit screencapsI thought Xitter screencaps where bad enough.
>>743805959I'm sick of the word tropes and what it's done to media criticism. You can just say something is bad because it has tropes without ever explaining what your specific issue is. I don't see how you can get rid of tropes with getting read of all culture, which is impossible.
>>743824917Well, most Japanese fantasy is inherently anti many things, including family, purely because it's more pure escapism.Something like Mushoku Tensei is very positive on the idea of family, but a man like Rudeus is someone who would be closer to Andrew Tate in real life. I wouldn't call it a pro-family show despite it ending with him having a very large family, as that family is an extension of success derived from escapism.Dragon Ball is a pro-family work for a more popular one. Despite Goku's abandoning of his family, that really does feel in line with how a lot of families back in the day would operate, where the kids would just never see the dad much at all. Kid goes to school in the morning, dad is working in the afternoon or holding two jobs (former is more common in Japan, or just leaving at 6 and getting home at midnight), and the two barely see each other.But Goku is demonstrated to be a caring and supportive member of the family who has genuine moments of failure and success as a parent in realistic ways. That's a pro-family sentiment.But again, a lot of current Japanese fantasy (naroukei) tend to just ignore the family element altogether, and a lot of manga fantasy, particularly shounen, have been very sexless for ages now. It really started with Naruto and Bleach doing the timeskip kids copout move, and now big works like Hero Academia end on just a flaccid "Maybe they'll get together!" (happened for both the main series and the spinoff).
>>743805959>WAAAAAAHHHHH A NON-CHRISTIAN COUNTRY LIKES BADMOUTHING THE RELIGION OF THE FAGGOTS WHO KEEP TRYING TO BOSS THEM AROUND WAAAAAAHHHH>MY RELIGION IS THE SPECIAL CHOSEN ONE THAT AGAINST ALL ODDS IS THE CORRECT ONE EVEN THOUGH I CAN'T ACTUALLY PROVE THIS I JUST USE MY POOR EDUCATION AND MASSIVE EGO AS THE REASONING WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
>>743825324Lol I said getting read of instead of getting rid of. My mind has atrophied.
>>743823912I can see your point and I suppose I'm forced to agree. >>743824131I disagree. The kid is blameless and innocent. Nobody asks to be born and everybody that is born deserves a chance not to be raised as a wild nigger.
>>743825353>Rudeus is someone who would be closer to Andrew Tate in real life???Besides wanting to fuck everything like his isekai-dad, he's not similar at all. Tate would never even think about trying to help Ruijerd and his clan's image.Japs just like found-family stuff, which is what MT is more about.
>>743824568FF11 and FF14 are probably more down to your player character being the player's choice, rather than an established character.I guess for FF14 you can argue Hydaelyn is your mom.And she dies in Endwalker so lol.
>>743807912yeah, we should all unite against faggots, they are the true enemy, minorities are more of a symptom
>>743805959not an issue in nortubel
>>743825079You're probably right, but even if that's not the intention, I think it's been so overused and pervasive over the years, and so associated with heroic protagonists, it probably has had that effect.It's very easy to read it as a weird fantasy Japanese people have about not having fathers. Especially after so many years of it, where people who idolized the previous generations of heroes without parents are now creating their own heroes without parents.
>>743812375>>743805959>KF screenshotso that explains itOP is trying to bring back reused SomethingAwful opinionsWhat game even does the "church bad" shit anymore?
>>743825606Nah I meant utterly repulsive and not really viewing family and kinship with the women he chooses to have sex with as something significant. Just the fact that he has multiple lovers is pretty anti-family in itself, since family, including in Japan, is the unique union of two people and their children.I wouldn't entirely call MT found family either. Found family is a work like Karakuri Circus or even Silent Hill 2 (in some endings) and 3. Rejection of blood relations is pretty common in JP works since that became very overrated with things like branch families and the aftereffects of WW2 resulting in people abandoning their children entirely (plus the work environments I mentioned before which have been a thing now for decades). But while MT includes elements of that, again, that's part of the wish fulfillment and not a focused theme of the work.
>>743825826Metaphor is the only one I can think of in recent memory
>>743825324>I'm sick of the word tropes and what it's done to media criticismME TOO ANONAnd every little thing that happens has to be categorized and packaged as a "trope" and seen as some kind of clicheIt's aggravating
>>743825841>Just the fact that he has multiple lovers is pretty anti-family in itself, since family, including in Japan, is the unique union of two people and their children.monogamy is a relatively new concept with humans, prior, it was standard with pretty much every culture for the man to have a lot of wives and children.
>>743825509>I can see your point and I suppose I'm forced to agree.I respect you for this, not because you agree with me specifically but because you're willing to even if you (apparently) don't like it. Rare on 4chan
>>743826006And that hardly matters since that current definition of family, one that has been common for everyone writing and consuming this fiction for their entire lives, has been monogamy.It's a work written in a world where monogamy is the purest form of love and the signifier of family, and polyamory is something dangerous and disrespectful.
>>743825841>Just the fact that he has multiple lovers is pretty anti-family in itselfThis is a purely christian concept, even western kings had concubines,
>>743805959What western games (especially RPGs) have your character keep a positive relationship with your parents?
>>743805959You need to gb2kiwi
>>743826228It's currently a global concept unless you're a North Korean elite or in a third world country, and has been, again, longer than you've been alive.I'm not criticizing MT for including it or even saying that a work needs to be pro-family at all. I'm just saying that MT isn't pro-family because these aspects are part of the escapism more than they are part of an endorsement of families.
>>743826365No, you're saying MT isn't pro-family because it doesn't subscribe exactly to your definition.A certified westoid moment.
>>743817031Why do you assume that your parents either want or know what's best for you, retard-kun?
>>743826249it's the same shit, but it's okay when we do it, because we're the 1st class humans, while all the icky yellows are just savages who don't know any better
>>743805959>church badI will now play your game
>>743826365>It's currently a global conceptNo, it's a Christian one that was spread to other countries, sub-saharan Africa for example didn't have the concept of monogamy until the it was introduced to them along with Christianity in the 1400s. Monogamy was seen as a point of political contention between King Alfonso of Kongo and the Portuguese because of how it fucked with local politics.
>>743820479You need to gb2kf
>>743823254stfu and go die for Israel, goy
>>743826432The definition that every modern culture subscribes to, and the one which MT was written in.It would be pro family if MT was written during like, the Meiji Restoration (and if it cut out a lot of other things since again, wish fulfillment work), but it's written now and the author isn't interested in a pro-family story and the narrative isn't pro-family either. It's a story that happens to end with the character having a big family.>>743826537>that was spread to other countriesSo, currently, a global concept.
>>743826696>this fantasy show needs to subscribe to modern sentiments you ilk are insufferable
>>743826696it's gonna go away with christianity departing
>>743826859Thank fuck. Christianity dying is the best to happen because it would also mean the death of all Jews. Fucking finally.
>>743819245when you are a kid your dad tells you to wash your hands after you pee so you do it. when you are older you realize it's because no one wants to touch your unwashed dick sweat, but by then you are already in the habit of washing your hands. you just turned out as one of those edgy people who doesn't flush the toilet because 'lol not my problem."
>>743826696It's a global concept because it was spread globally by Christians not because its an an endemic part of various cultures around the globe.
>>743826954I want to disagree, but you make a good case
>>743827078You should wash your hands before you touch your dick too.
>>743814264>>743815054>>743815213All abrahamic religions are evil.
Hunt down every last kiwinigger across the web. These faggots literally go after any anime porn because of muh minors.
>>743827207very true.all mason shitposting.
>>743827268so they're troons and mentally ill zoomoids
>>743805959I mean. Most westoid games also feature protagonists whose parents are out of the picture.
>>743825225Let's not pretend it ends at just Wizardry.
>>743812993Mens sana in corpore sano, retard. You need to get your sleep so your brain works well. There, said it in a way for retards like you.
>>743826812It's not that it needs to, it's just something being pro or anti something is relative to the conditions it's written under.If MT was historical, then you'd have a point. But it's a fantasy about a character from modern Japan.>>743826859Probably not in your lifetime. >>743827126It's part of these cultures now is the thing. I'm not saying this didn't happen, but it's like how slavery used to be common and pious characters in fiction would own slaves, but now someone owning slaves is a negative character trait (unless you're some form of naroukei isekai protagonist, of course, because that's wish fulfillment).Again, I don't hate most of these things, I actively watch naroukei for a majority of my seasonals. One of my favourite shows last year was Mugen Gacha and that is the most wish fulfilling wish fulfillment can get.
>>743827463sure, but show me an early JRPG that is more D&D than wizardry.Japs took elements from D&D, but they didn't care about the core formula like the west.
>>743822693They legitimately became drooling dumbasses because of COVID. The sudden influx of political tourists and the constant jumping around due to the Keffals situation caused a total population replacement. They can't even follow their old mantra of "observe but do not interact".
>>743819782I just hate the writing tropes and cliches. Like playing FFX makes me boiling angry.>the church of yevon is considered evil and corrupt and run by undead rapist zombies>no, we can't slaughter them all and kill the devotees because.... that would be heckin mean or something>infact if they point guns at us in a cutscene, we have to surrender even if we're level 99 because otherwise that makes us the bad guys or somethingI can hear the bootlicking all the way from across the ocean. Church bad, but no rebellion because otherwise that's le bad. We don't even get a cool boss fight against the asshole running the church. He just disappears into nothing, and the most we get is a pity fight against momma's boy inside Sin.
>people will watch this chinese cartoon and say it's anti familyhow do people even come up with these conclusions that are so obviously wrong? do they just have the idea before even watching it and then ignore the entire thing?
>>743805959Yes, it's totally Japanese games that turn gamers away from marriage, and not western feminism and attack on traditional gender roles and family models.
>>743805959I've never played a JRPG with any of those.
>>743827646>christcuck kiwifag meltdown >>743827687It's kiwifags, anon
>>743827687>>743827721Notice these retarded faggots ultimately think like femishits and never blame the women for men not wanting to deal with their bullshit instead of anime.
>>743827721What turns gamers away from marriage is their inability to talk to women and absurd standards despite their own lifestyles.
>>743827543Japan is literally the country that popularised the harem trope in fiction. Also >Mugen GachaThis was not one of your favourite shows last year, that shit was ass and you had a lots of better narou-kei shit to watch. I'd even put "Dad's a hero, Mom's a spirit and I'm a reincarnator" over that shit and I fucking hate that series with an unholy passion.
>>743827872>inability to talk to women and absurd standards despite their own lifestylesYeah, because it's men who typically aim for females out of their league while tons of girls are just being ignored and forced into living in being celibate.
>>743827639They didn't follow it to begin with
>>743807817>>743807912It's just conservative christian tourists who don't even play, but incorrectly hear about a hilariously small sample size of games just to make an incorrect generalization about all of them. They do the same shit with "earthbound rpgs about depression" even though it literally doesn't exist.
>>743827646why do westerners seethe about japs and the church, when the west (jews) are even more obsessed with portraying christianity in a negative light?>priest is a rapist>priest is an alcoholic>priest is just a sexual degen>priest is losing his beliefs so many recycled tropes, and not a peep from westoids
>>743828081White Christian Supremacy. No I am not joking.
>>743828081Look, west or east, just stop pussyfooting around the issue. If religion and government is le bad, then let me just genocide everyone. Give me an Undertale style genocide ending where I kill the entire world, or an armored Core FA style ending where I genocide 100 million. I'm not here for fuckin lectures. Let me have fun.
>>743806403In the middle ages teens (ie adults) were sent out on adventures, fought in wars and served in court and legal preceedings all the time. Delayed adolescense is purely environmental. Thats why its happening to college kids now.
>>743823768tf are you talking about? persona 4 is about a kid hanging out with his family and they donr fight against a christian coded evil church nor empire
>>743828031They did it to some degree before, at least enough to make fun of others for trying to get a rise out of lolcows.But they've completely abandon it and are now obsessed with trying to make everyone they find into the next Chris-chan.
>>743827770there have been people posting these retarded opinions in /a/ since s3 started airing and even this thread. is this the new generation of trolling where you use ai to write something so stupid no one could possibly actually believe it?
>>743827970And harem still falls under wish fulfillment. It's still in line with what would become naroukei, as the progenitor of naroukei WAS a harem work as well as an isekai work (Zero no Tsukaima).>This was not one of your favourite shows last year, that shit was ass and you had a lots of better narou-kei shit to watch.You don't know how to have fun man, it was one of the funniest shows last year.Looking at my index for 2025, it didn't rank that high among my anime but it stands out as my favourite naroukei at least. For 2025 I had >1. Shin Samurai-den Yaiba>2. Hanako-kun 2>3. SANDA>4. 100M>5. CITY>6. Nube (2025)>7. Ninkoro>8. Ranma 1/2 (2024) Season 2>9. Detectives These Days Are Crazy!>10. Chainsaw Man: Reze-hen>11. Kinnikuman Perfect Origin Arc Season 2>12. Mugen GachaWhich still puts it above about 20 other anime, and every other naroukei on my list for that year. Nothing GROUNDBREAKING but it was a superfunny show, I liked when there was a whole scene of elves torturing humans for no reason other than tonesetting.
>>743828021I mean, yeah, there are tons. They're socially retarded, don't have good hygiene, aren't active, and shut-ins just like the majority of people here.
>>743828263>And harem still falls under wish fulfillment.harem was literally the natural, normalfag thing to do, until jews wanted population control, and started pushing the monogameme
>>743828217The middles ages had lots of wars and skirmishes, teens were expected to mature quickly because people died all the time, we have higher life expectancies now which is part of cultural shift.
>>743828081Media illiterate christians who get culture shock. There's no JRPG that states that Christianity is bad either, it is usually just a different religion that is revealed to be a demonic fake one
>>743828334harems are the nigger thing to do, but keep on being one
>>743828217It cannot be stressed enough that being 15 years old in 800 AD was not the same as 15 now. Now 25 year olds willfully self-identify as infants.
>>743828308Unfortunately the data just doesn't match up.
>>743828334Listen dude, this is a dumb thesis.Second of all, societies just change over time. That's it. Thirdly, if harems were still a thing, you'd be on here seething about chad getting all the girls and THAT'S why you're an incel.
>>743828385life expectancies aren't that much higher once you're out of your childhood. a lot of it is wrapped up in infant mortality and children dying from a billion different things.
>>743828434chaim..., kings across every culture across thousands of years all did it.This is extremely poor gaslighting
>>743828263>but it stands out as my favourite naroukei at least.Vending Machine is the better and funnier show.
>>743828606I'm sure a Vegetafag can't relate to this at all, but if my wish fulfillment slop doesn't have a perceivably male protagonist, I tend to ignore it, and vending machine got thoroughly ignored.
>>743827207ALL religions are evil. A man who needs an external goad to be a decent person isn't a man, but a beast.
>>743828696You need to learn to have better taste in shit, Vending Machine was the thoroughly better tasting shit. >VegetaWho?
>>743828334>jews are the cause of monogamy in ancient china>jews are the cause of monogamy in the roman republicbased schizo
>>743828434Kill yourself cuck.
>>743828880>>>>>>>>>>>>>monogamy in ancient china>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>monogamy in the roman republicLMAO
>>743806403Retards on the internet lie or exaggerate to push shitty narratives?
>>743807912No, I'm tired of racists being proven right because degenerate walking stereotypes deliberately aren't properly dealt with.
>>743829075careful anon, you're almost doing a heckin wrong think
>>743829165Nigga really thinks this shit isn't mainstream.
>>743807912No i fucking hate you.
>>743829194not mainstream enough if retards are still saying shit like>why are the racists always proven right????
>>743812795KISEKIBROS WE'RE BEING CALLED OUT
>>743829253When your literal head of state endorses this shit you're mainstream enough. Being a racist retard isn't being counter culture.
>>743827872Feminism makes women unmarriable, it doesn't make them unfuckable (usually)
>>743829165Nigger, I'm actual pure fucking evil and only care about pedophiles causing me problems. I'd personally kill 100 children for every game series I wanted properly restored to 6th gen quality.
There's a fucking tonne of anime about families. What is bro yapping about?
>>743805959This man is retarded.
>>743829556played g-rated stuff kh or oot and assumed that it was every other jrpg
>>743829689Play Boku no Natsuyasumi or the Shin Chan adventure games.
To be fair the whole "evil church" thing is very fucking boring.
>>743829253Notice how socially acceptable making fun of Indians is now yet you can't do it for anything else with the same or worse behavior.
>>743827535>said it in a way for retards like you.>by saying it in LatinYou have very high expectations for us retards; appreciate it.
>>743816843>>743819245Please understand that if you do not make parents emotionally manipulate their young children and raise them while reminding of the threat of eternal physical and mental torture, they will be less likely to join the organization during adulthood on and that would make God sad :(
>>743812375Where's your thread on the Farms?
>>743805959ok
>>743830073It's near Joe.
>>743819782They're complaining cause they do enjoy them. Like I don't have opinions on Assassin's Creed or God of War and a bunch of other established franchises, not cause I hate them but cause nothing about them ever piqued my interest enough to play them, like I got one of the Assassin's Creeds games for free and let the redemption period expire (which Ubisoft kept crying about) cause I don't care. I don't spend my time commenting on them when threads pop up cause since I don't care about them I also don't know about them. Meanwhile they can readily list all sorts of shit without being asked and spend time writing critiques that require familiarity with the subject matter. Reminds me of Something Awful actually liking furries and anime all along, where their outward hate of it was mainly cause they didn't want to be ridiculed and ostracized for it. The type of people you can pick on easily cause all sorts of things will hurt them.
>>743805959>and this gives the impression to young people that life cannot be exciting until parents are out of the picturebut this is true, life only begins for real once you leave your parents, even greeks talked about this
If you watch the shogun Christian people almost destroyed japan 100s of years ago, if it werent for the samurai expelling all foreigners japan might be looking like the Philippines today, jeudo-abrahamic religions are not compatible with japanese confucian meritocracy
>>743820258It's also worth mentioning that Japanese are not monotheistic and their gods are just very powerful supernatural beings. Like our demons/archangels. Literally any human made tool can become a god or youkai if it is used for 100 years.When you go kill some evil god in a jrpg it's not much different from killing some archdemon in western fiction.
>>743830469America literally forced Japan to reopen their ports for trade or get blown to hell by superior steam warships, lmao.
>>743828772Your words are empty as your soul. Mankind ill needs a savior like you.
>>743831054What is a man?! A miserable pile of secrets! But enough talk, have at you!
>>743828772>A man who needs an external goad to be a decent person isn't a man, but a beast.Perhaps the same could be said of all laws
>>743807912I have another sort of fatigue
>>743831516Nah, you're just racist.
>life cannot be exciting until parents are out of the pictureBut it is literally true.
>>743828772Humanity is naturally evil, yes. I just learned to embrace that in the name of preserving beauty.
>>743831565>>743807912I have to live with what anti-racists did.
>>743831589yepone of the classic examples is literally Alexander the Great, he only did what he did once his parents were out of the picture, and his ambition that was bigger than his father's could be manifestedit's not even just a literally trope, it's reality, life begins when you challenge your parents and go your own way, that's why every teenager is so rebellious no matter where, the culture, religion, whatever
>>743831565So what if he is?
>I am SO tired of thing I have obviously never ever done
>>743831565yesand?
>>743831842Billions have to live with what racists did and still do.
>>743832205No such thing, your framing that there is only one group who were "the racists" that are the root cause of all suffering is something only radical leftists would use to justify any action against political enemies.I don't agree that I am a racist, but I also know your concept of racist is fake anyway, you might as well call me a fascist, a conservative, all of them would be wrong, but I know you don't care. Your end justifies all means. All I want is mass migration to end, you want to keep it going because they vote for your party, there is no debate here because I might as well tell you to stop trying to seek power and ruin my country when that's your only goal.I don't care that you call me a racist. I know what you are, a pathetic loser who wants a big reset hoping you can be on top, because you know you'll never amount to anything.
>>743832205You deserve every second.
>>743831565brownoids need to realize that trying to shame with that word is not going to work
>twitter and reddit screencaps weren't enough>we need to scrape the kiwi insteadcoolnext up, sharty post reposts
>>743809708I really thought Mushoku Tensei was going to go somewhere great, but for whatever reason the Mangaka decided "I'm going to have this 15 year old boy start a harem and get 3 girls pregnant" The world is so interesting and the adventuring parts are so fucking awesome, but the story just grinds to a halt for this emotional harem bullshit. I get that it's part of the MC's character growth, especially after his former life of being a lifeless hikki neet, but fuck me why not just make that at the end of the series instead of right when things were getting interesting as hell?
>>743832497You are quite literally making up fanfiction about me and saying a whole lot of nothing to skirt around you being racist.
>>743805959>three sentences in and you realize it's a wannabe trad christ cuck seething how games dare to portray his religion as bad LOL
>>743833106I think you're even more racist than I ever could be.
>>743805959Schizophrenia aside, this does make me realize how in most of the stories I've come up with the parents are either absent, abusive or out of the picture lol. Very few have them still around.
>>743833764>No U
>>743833819yes u
>>743805959I dunno, if you look at your own ideals and politics and think a story where people are fighting against an evil organization could be referring to you, you're probably an evil person.
>>743805959Who's worse? Shartyfags or Kiwifags?
Why is KF so full of moralfag tradlarpers?
>>743805959>i am tired of *low common denominator cultural export* media!!!
Only a kike or a MAGA pedo can write that bullshit
>>743809708World's End Harem Fantasia is pretty good.
>>743832909Since the sharty is dying because of shit admins and jannies (like here) you should be seeing that very soon.
>>743805959Man. Worshipping kike deities sure does make people fucking stupid
>>743805959>tranime is for autistsI see nothing wrong there, be thankful they keep them entertained
>>743835393That's a natural progression for failed normalfags if they decide to abandon trying to be normal altogether. Just like normalfags, they are not autistic enough to have hobbies and enjoy them at peace and instead focus more on social and moral matters. But being excluded from typical social interactions and groups, they resort to this sort of weird, distorted take on what is normal and moral. It's important to note that they do not really live up to their traditional values, they do not even go to church. The views do not even need to be coherent. It's all about vibes, appearing to be part of the group, and judging and gossiping about these who are not. This is the essence of virtue signaling, this is no different from what normalfags do on their coffee meetings, except that normies generally stay grounded down by having real life, job, families, etc, while basement delving kiwinigger can spent their entire life focusing on nothing but constructing their perfect larp persona and assassinating any that doesn't take part in it.
>>743831565this
>ANIME IS FOR TRANNIESBut YOUR website is full of them, null.
>>743813316Damn you just obliterated anon with your leadership 101 knowledge. Why don't presidents just delegate all their tasks and sleep all day?
>Kike FarmsIDF sponsored thread
>>743837007>It's important to note that they do not really live up to their traditional values, they do not even go to churchThis is what pisses me off the most whenever I tried to lurk the siteIts so fucking cringe and inauthentic to pretend to be a (((NORMAL))) religious fag. Even as a atheist I can at least respect people who earnestly believe into it and are sincere. But none of these people are normal. Its all fake gay and pretend make believe.Actual religious people wouldn't use the site and cyberstalk random internet retards. So its all theatre to better appeal to their circlejerk.>LOOK GUYZZ!!! I HATE ANIME AND LE DEGENERACY! LOOK HOW BASED I AM!!!!How sad do you have to be play pretend for the approval of internet strangers. Get a hobby man or something, or literally anything. You deserve better.
As opposed to WRPG conventions?>Every party member wants to fuck you>Long, exposition-vomiting conversations at "camp">Physics engine>Bloated inventory>Shitty 3rd act>Ugly aesthetics>DEI>Parryslop>Literal dicerolling mechanics>"Broken" buildsI'm sure there's more, but that will do for now.
>>743805959>no i don't want to be remminded of my issues.... *take bunch of pills*....... i am a woman not mental ill evil person as mentioned in the game... *take another bunch of pills*.I kek.
>>743837724No, these retards do not deserve better, only suffering and death. Stop this gay ass sympathy.
>>743805959Funnily enough in the majority of WRPGs the status of the parents is either unknown or left up to responses in dialogues:>Fallout>Fallout 2>Fallout: New Vegas>Arcanum>Icewind Dale>Icewind Dale II>Pathfinder: Kingmaker>Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous>The Witcher Series - Mother is alive, father would have been dead of old age by that point.>Pillars of Eternity Series>Neverwinter Nights>Neverwinter Nights: Shadows of Undrentide/Hordes of the Underdark>Knights of the Old Republic>Knights of the Old Republic IIThe few games where parentage, or lack thereof is important is the Baldur's Gate Series - all three games in fact; Neverwinter Nights II... and that's it?
>>743837802YWNBARPG
>>743828081Could you name Western games where this is the case?Because the only series I can recall where a Catholic priest is prominent is Faith: The Unholy Trinity, where Christianity is a force of good.
>>743807912No
>>743838052That's because in most WPRGs you play as an adult instead of a mute (high school age) teenager.
>>743807912No, because racism is only a problem for countries which aren't 99% white, like mine.
>>743834992Kiwis are way more hypocritical and self-righteous but there's far more Shartyshorties posting here and wrecking the place.
>>743827721And yet it's Japan that has a sexless, childless, marriage-less, loveless population for the last 50 years, much sooner than any other place in the world.And in case you try to protest:https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/jpn/japan/fertility-rateThe last time they had replacement levels of births? The 1970s.
>>743838653>much sooner than any other place in the world.https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/kor/south-korea/fertility-rate
>>743838823Can't you read, retard? The replacement level of births is 2.1. Japan had it last in 1971. South Korea in 1984.
>>743838653The seventies is when americans started exporting their financial losses to the japanese economy
>>743839030No, anon, it's when the effects of turning your entire society into an army of workaholics who never see their families started taking place.That meteoric economic growth sure does look nice... as long as you forget that every man works 12-14 hour shifts. Then you realize why they love JRPGs - mindless grinding is in their blood.
>>743839030I don't really understand his argument either when every country in the world is suffering from thisThe west is just feeling it slightly less because of immigration
>>743838653Maybe if the country wasn't nuked so bad that it proactively made a culture where they turn into whipped dogs and create an entire medium focused on escapism, self worship and insecurity they would be having more children. Just a thought.
>>743839154In the West it started several decades later, and has more to do with population stabilization.After all, there are no wars, famines or plagues to do that, so instead births decline. Remember - this is only the problem for pension systems, which are literally Ponzi schemes, and shareholders.But Japan's societal collapse has different routes. Korea is even more fucked, but they're an outright failed state in the making.
>>74383893910 years is not much sooner, and Korea has been worse for for 25 years.
>>743839262No, anon, if you want to know the real roots of Japan's failure as a society, they have a single word - Bushido, which is one the worst, most destructive (in a slow acting poison way), retarded ideologies ever created.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juXk00ZNoo8Here's a nice summary of some of the dumber aspects of it. The entire lecture goes into greater details.
>>743839262>>743839417>cont.The TL;DR is that Bushido essentially instilled the entire Japanese population with their own version of izzat and their own version of a caste system.
>>743805959Lol chrigger seething because Japan mogs every catholic shithole
>>743839603>proceeds to lose every single conflict with a Catholic powerKeep coping, weeb.
>>743839495>izzatI don't understand how this word became a popular buzzword when every asian culture is mega autistic about face, be it arabic, indian or chinese.Faggot kiwitards being fake racists. It gets more and more embarrassingIs there a limit to larping?
>>743805959>(star wars) empireBecause as we all know star wars was the height of originality and the entire concept of fascist empires with imperial soldiers that go around bullying people because they get off on it was created by george lucas and is absolutely not just a universal human constant throughout history or anything like that.What an actual fucking retard. honestly was more offensive to read than the christian whining.
>>743839706I guess they're not catholic but tsaar Russia got BTFO
>>743839791OK, to make it easier for you - it instilled the entire Japanese population with their own caste system, their obsession over face, as well as valuing deportment over results.
>>743839791Saaaar
>>743820134u>>743825841>since family, including in Japan, is the unique union of two people and their children.Japan practiced polygamy before wwii. Same thing in China.Don't associate your cultural values or even post-war japanese values with traditional japanese values.
>>743826365>global concept unless you're a North Korean elite or in a third world countryHave you heard about the islamic world or East Asia before WWII?You seem to not understand the concept of different cultures?
>>743839928>Japan practiced polygamy before wwii.They practised every single retarded, backwards barbaric tradition you can think of, including human sacrifices, until the West forcibly modernized them.
>>743840071True. They are also still savages today.
>>743840043>islamic worldCovered by third world country.>East Asia before WWIIMay as well talk about the stone ages then for how fucking relevant it is.Almost nobody alive today, and absolutely nobody reading and writing naroukei experienced those 'golden years'.
>>743837517Anything sounds stupid if you're this reductionist.
>>743840071>consume another culture's media>complain that they don't adhere to your valuesMaybe you should stop watching anime or consuming other japanese mediea? People like you sre the reason why anime is getting worse.
Japjeets
>>743840232>Maybe you should stop watching anime or consuming other japanese mediea?I did, many years ago, when I realized most of it is slop aimed at mentally and socially stunted Japanese man-children.
>>743839145>Then you realize why they love JRPGs - mindless grinding is in their blood.So now, from claiming that JRPGs cause them to not have children you claim that them not having children cause them to love JRPGs.Do you even have any coherent argument except Japanese games bad?
>>743807912i can tolerate racism far more than i can tolerate performative pearl-clutching
wumao thread
>>743839495>>743839875To be fair, there is no direct equivalent like izzat in Japanese culture. Closest that there is for asians are social credit in China. Otherwise, the japanese just ALWAYS take things super seriously, out of their naive romantic ways to be and wannabe supermachismo conservative attitude. That's why they're in the predicament they're in now, the nukes fucked up their entire history and lineage. They KNOW they are not the powerhouse, the "strong samurai" they believed themselves to be. That's why they worship America, because it subconsciously became their master. The creed of Bushido, of appealing to the master and dying for them became warped, and now Japanese culture is ripping itself at the seems with wanting to escape the old ways of hyper honor and loyalty by trying to express individuality in the most degenerate and selfish ways possible that essentially paramount to throwing a tantrum and hooking themselves up to the dream machine death pod. They're trying to gain freedom of ideals and the self, but they're so focused on rules and fitting in that they wind up being the same as they were before: kneeling to the ones before them because "that's how it is". >>743839791Because izzat explicitly exists in middle eastern culture and is a real thing. Cry harder jeet.
>>743839268No it is a man made issue, female legal equality, that caused it in the west and east. a natural human wants to have many children, population curves are much more volatile yet stable.this is a population control agenda and without trying to sound like a pol fag you know what the purpose is, the erosion of nation states. In nature a man wants to have lots of children, so do women, but modern brainwashing from a young age in school dictates you have to love work and money (but if you groom for young marriage you are evil, groom for work instead).
>>743840427Communists hate and seethe at Christ just like japs
>>743805959I have extreme christcuck fatigue, especially concerning their constant victim mentality while being themselves massive oppressors and censors.
>>743840428>wanting to escape the old ways of hyper honor and loyaltyNo they don't?>throwing a tantrum and hooking themselves up to the dream machine death podWhat?
>>743840519Christians historically behaved like muslims. Oppressing anyone who doesn't believe in their religion.
>>743807912Racism only bothers me when Japanese people are the victim of it.
>>743840631Are you stupid?
>>743805959THE ADVENTURE, WITH GOOD AND LIVING PARENTS:>well, im happy and content with life. i shouldnt throw away everything on a suicide journey!
>>743805959>it's so pathetic how anti-family Japanese media isLolwut? I've gotten the complete opposite impression from anime compared to, say, American media (I'm assuming the author this pic is American).American (Jewish) media rarely portrays parents positively, it's always some form of "your parents / grandparents are dumb and racist, they don't get 'it', they don't get you, they're behind the times, they're holding you back, you can't listen to them." When parents are the bad guys in Japanese media it's usually some dramatic Darth Vader type shit, dramatic sure but not necessarily anti-family.
Your weird shotposts can't sway me. I love both Christianity, Japan, and videogames!
>>743840749One of the founding groups of America, the Puritans, literally only came to America so they'd have the freedom to oppress their own people because they were too free in the Netherlands.
>>743841229Oh and forgot to mention I'm trans too btw if it matters
That is green reddit for you.Null needs to purge that place of the lolcows in A&N.
>>743841292This is you.
>>743840771This.
>>743807912nah I'm more casually racist than ever before. Although 4chan has made me really hate the brown people that lurk here.
>>743809708Technically not an isekai but Helck is really good. The "oh this is mildly interesting" hook is the stereotypical Hero competing in a competition to become the next Demon Lord, but then a few chapters later it becomes Berserk-lite.
>>743841292fuck I meant to say I like trains sorry
>>743841229Based, or should I say Blessed
>>743840428Izzat is such a funny concept because you can literally just ignore it, it's entirely self imposedWhy are people from asian regions so fucking stupid? It's strange.
>>743805959>Let's all get mad about some literal-who schizo's blogpost>This post is definitely both real and relevant>We need to discuss this and not video games
>>743842243Yes.
>>743805959I have Christian fatigue.
>>743842243If /v/ was a decent forum this would be a great conversation about JRPGs through time supporting or refuting the OP's observation or maybe talking about what it is about Japanese society that has led to those tropes being so commonInstead it's mostly shit-flinging and racism. Some anons are trying
>>743845343I have fatigue fatigue
>>743840428I never liked the japanese. They suck at video games and get assmad about things like objective measures of performance within those games. From this singular data point, I extrapolate that their entire culture is a facade and that the only thing they actually care about is what other people think about them.
>>743845617Stay away for a while.
>>743807912I'm tired of the forced anti-racism.Fragile people only being able to survive in an unnatural standstill constantly enforced by the state is insufferable. >>743805959I find the themes of western games far more monotonous now than Japanese games.
>"This retard doesn't know what he's talking about lol" — /v/, collectivelyThank AI.
>>743845956I think that AI types like a fag and that its shit's all retarded
>>743805959Based japs for owning the christcucks. It was always cringe growing up seeing the forced christcuckery in american media.
>>743805959I mean, I think the Japanese are generally not particularly good at storytelling but accusing them of being "anti-family" with their media is completely baffling. It's actually the exact opposite and most of the mainstream media I've seen is very pro-family.
>>743810031Don't think, don't ask questions, don't even engage with the product itself! Just consoom pure dogslop and get excited for next dogslop
>>743818437>Long list of wide variety>"ThIs Is ThE sAmE aS 9001 lOsEr GeTs IsEkAi'Ed StOrIeS!"You want to know how I know you're an obese shitweeb who hates White people just because no one liked you in high school, because you were a repulsive little cretin back then as well, even though you're now pushing 30?
holy shit the guy in the op image is rightso many orphans!
>>743805959It's unthinkable! To act against the Empire!!?
>>743805959If you don't like Japanese games please stop playing them. It's crazy that it's the people that claim to hate Japanese media the most, who are the hardest to gatekeep.
>>743807912Tribalism appears even between primates, nigga
>>743820246>Nullironically he used to be an anime lover
>>743807912I have anti-racist fatigue.
>>743848905No such thing. You're just anti-acceptable racism.
>>743848216He was also a shotafag
>>743805959>JRPG protag with abusive parentsCan't think of one off the top of my head and I've played hundreds.
>>743846459>>"ThIs Is ThE sAmE aS 9001 lOsEr GeTs IsEkAi'Ed StOrIeS!"Why is everyone who writes this way an absolute cocksucker?
Brown people thread
>>743805959>stalking chris-chan stopped being fun>now there's a bunch of self-hating troons larping as tradfagsYour life might be shit, but at least you're not a kiwinigger
>>743805959I do have to admit I find Star Wars empire highly boring.
>>743851151I find 9 times out of 10 someone who types this is brown themselvesVery curious
>>743818437You'd be better off attacking recycled characters, since most western (specifically American) media only has two character archetypes: "smug" and "psychotic"
>>743806403>the fantasy/isekai shit I followWhat an embarassing thing to admit
>>743827207The desert triology really is vile
>>743828772how often do Buddhists fuck with people who don't deserve it though?
>>743819873Tell me a western movie or cartoon with the crazy shit of Elfen Lied, Umineko or Higurashi
>>743828772Based, god literally does not exist we are in a macrocosm driven by a super massive blackhole There is no coping about that
>>743805959The lack of parents fits with most narratives being told, to never try to go back to the past or stagnate in the present, but to keep moving forward no matter what hardships you encounter. The parents are the present. They are comfort. Staying with your parents is the safe, stagnant option. You don't challenge yourself, you don't grow.This is the same reason why "Kill God" is everpresent. God represents the most impassible wall. If you can kill God, you can do anything.
>>743805959meanwhile, the majority of western superheroes are orphans or the parents are antagonists.
>>743819782The guy running the site is a notorious pedophile. He did the trad grift a couple of years ago and now he and his gay fans are overcompensating by hating on anime because anime is for le pedos.
>>743805959oh noooooo don't feed antinatalist propaganda to the masses noooooooo
>>743814264Christianity is not racist. Racist Christians have severe cognitive dissonance.
>>743806403What about religion stuff? It seem every game and manga author has been 'brainwashed' into perception that the concept of one true God and his messenger to bring truth in this world seem out of place by making it evil but human is more evil than that.
hang every kiwifag
