This character isn’t nearly as deep as the games want to make her appear.
>>743812071But enough about every JRPG character ever.
>>743812071this is just an even shittier Daenerys Targaryen
>>743812071yeah but she cute
it's because her own route got cucked by the church
The game isn't pretending she's deep. The fans who side with her and are trying to find an excuse other than "I want red leggings on my face" are.
Most of her hardcore fans are obnoxious yurifags who pretend she's a lesbian
The Treehouse has consistently chosen the worst localizations possible for character names lmao
>>743812071She is deeper than almost every other FE character though. The bar isn't that high.Prove me wrong
>>743812071She needs a hug
>>743812071Ok marketer
>>743812071Are you stupid? She is deeper than every single character that "Intelligent systems" has produced in the last 19 years. They brought fateswakening, engage and the godawful gacha plot. The worst offenders were the retarded baby dimensions, ice mages setting herself on fire using fire magic and gooron.
>>743812071>support Edelgard>marry Lisetheakino
>>743813928> She is deeper than every single character that "Intelligent systems" has produced in the last 19 years. So still not very deep
>>743814423By fire emblem standards she is amazing.
>>743814423For FEfags that's something thouBut even then she is still deeper than FFT/Tactics Ogre characters lol
>>>/vg/
>>743812071I sure want to go deep inside her though
>>743814521>But even then she is still deeper than FFT/Tactics Ogre characters lolNo she's not. I know for a fact you've never touched either games if you think this. Throwaway villains in either of those are deeper than her.
>>743814603Delita isn't even a better character than Edelgard. That's a fact.Yes his lack of screentime plays alot of part in this argument.You are just biased and nostalgia-blinded so you resort to "you never played the game" without actually having any arguments in defending your "tell don't show" of a "masterpiece of a story".
>>743814501most true post ITTeven SoL kusoge heroines are deeper than FE cardboard cutouts
Cutesythea
>>743812071as the fans want to make her appear*
Do you think Edeltards will move to the girlboss Theodora to rally behind, or will they ditch her for being too brown and go with Leda?
>>743815905Edeltards will never move on. In another 10 years we'll still be seeing Edeltard posters shitting up FE threads.
>>743815905it's not often you get to have tea with the villain while going to school with them
I like how no Edelgard fan has an argument for how she enabled Emile's serial killing.So they just ignore it or drop the act.
>>743816201You're right, except that Edeltards are incapable of admitting that she's the villain.
>>743813987Black eagles lysithea is kino.
>>743812071>as the games want to make her appearLol wut, she's more shallow than a puddle?
>>743816319she's the villain of the story, but her reasoning was justified
Gay sex with Lyndis
>>743816846>slithers tortured her>so she decides to overthrow dimitri, claude, and rhea>also just lets a serial killer go loose because fuck it
>>743812071I don't know what you're talking about, OP.I played Azure Moon and Edelgard was a straight-forward mustache twirling villain. It never came across as if she were trying to be deep.Dimitri isn't supposed to be deep either. He's just supposed to be the broken "I can fix him" man for girls to self insert as femByleth and heal his wounded soul.That was my plan but I ended up marrying Dedue
>>743816941her route was cucked by the church branch so destroying the slithers was more of a footnote, but she basically went full tankie and burned down the entire system. to do anything short of that would have been treating the symptoms, not the affliction.
>>743817209>her route was cucked by the church branchSilver Snow was the first-made route.>but she basically went full tankie and burned down the entire system.But you said that her reasoning was justified.Her reasoning was that she wanted to rule the world.
>>743812140BBBBBBAAAAASSSSSEEEEDDDDDDDDD
>>743812071Reminder that english localization butchered her dialogue and turned it into fanfiction
>>743816949Let me guess... you also thought she was trying to kill him with the dagger?
>>743817270>Silver Snow was the first-made route.production order doesn't really mean anything>But you said that her reasoning was justified. Her reasoning was that she wanted to rule the world.her reasoning was she was treated very badly by a broken system and the only way to prevent it from happening was to destroy it. getting revenge was also a factor.i said she went full tankie for a reason. tankies have justifiable grievances with capitalism, but they often seem more preoccipied with tearing it down and installing their own guys than they do making things better for anyone.
>>743817209>not the afflictionShe doesn't even handle the slithers until the end credits as a footnote.
>>743818408literally what i said, anonffs
>>743818081>production order doesn't really mean anythingIt means Edelgard was the villain from the start, and her own route (which did not exist yet) could not possibly be "cucked" by the church route, because the church route existed before Edelgard's route even began being planned.>her reasoning was she was treated very badly by a broken systemYeah, and she wasn't. She was kidnapped by a group of people from a different society and different system. The slithers' society is completely unrelated to how things work in Garreg Mach or the Alliance or the Kingdom.It'd be like if her siblings got killed by Almyrans, so she invaded the Kingdom. It has no relation, it's just a powergrab.
>>743816949That's Joe Burrow
>she has depth for a FE characterI disagree even on that. Yeah she has more going for her than army fillers, but so do most other main characters.
>>743812071I honestly don't get the appeal. People say she's a sympathetic, tragic character, but she's nothing but a spiteful, petty dick who will kill Byleth and your students simply because you don't agree with everything she believes in. Claude and Dimitri openly admit they were using Byleth and even apologize for doing so. Edeltards are so fucking retarded; they honestly believe Edelgard really wants to hang out with Byleth, even though in 3/4 of the routes, she literally attempts to resist Byleth until her dying breath.It's one thing to like a character despite her flaws or because you appreciate how morally questionable she is, but Edeltards give her the Draco Malfoy treatment and act like she's above all the other routes and lords when her actions indicate she is as awful and frankly exploitative as Dimitri and Claude. The latter two are just more honest about it.
>>743815905I can't take 'vengeful' female characters seriously. Especially ones that look so delicate like that, that you know you could easily take in a fight. When she states she wants to choke the living shit out of her parents' murderer with her bare hands, I just couldn't take her seriously. You expect me to believe her delicate hands can strangle a full grown man? Adult women are weaker than teenage boys approaching 16. We really have documented footage of 13-year-old boys defeating adult women professionals in soccer. That's how far the gap is.
>>743820339She can summon demons.
>>743816941>also just lets a serial killer go loose because fuck itThat serial killer could put down endless swarms of enemies. Are you GBA FE kiddies so retarded you think people who can achieve great things in war don't get pardoned?
>>743820339you sound like a raging homosexual. the modern games are full of twinks who would get overpowered but your little dick throbs at the throb of it.
>>743819734It's not about the appeal of character or how correct her methods are.They are talking whether she is deep enough or not.>>743820339>You expect me to believe her delicate hands can strangle a full grown manyou don't have to take it seriously. it's fantasy after all. just imagine
>and then, we made so many threads at least one stayed up
>>743820542>That serial killer could put down endless swarms of enemiesYeah, and she just let him roam the town at night and kill random civilians.
>>743820786No shit, it's worth it 100x over. Why do you think Nasa used to use German as their primary language?
>>743821026>No shit, it's worth it 100x over.
Sandal on Anna’s door…
>>743821362Hopefully I don't forget to grab my sandal when we leave the morning after.
>only the Edelgard thread is allowed to stay upMods hate FW browns too lmao
Mother Mage
My Empress
>>743813289I was just looking for a route to fuck over the church to be honest
>>743823068>to fuck over the churchThe church did nothing wrong.
>>743822973cute lesbian queen
>>743812071I fucking hate those skirt-shorts. I want to see panties.
>>743812071Does the game actually try to make her seem deep?
>schizophrenic seething about fiction from 10 years ago
>>743823330i mean, committing genocide, doing human experimentation, and suppressing humanity in a brutal class-based heirarchy probably isn't too bad
>>743812071are you deep? did you ever think about that? i bet not.
>>743824838>suppressing humanity in a brutal class-based heirarchy probably isn't too badI guess every FE nation is evil then for being feudalistic.
>>743825063Are you saying feudalism is a good system?
>>743812071true, but she's a real qt!
>>743825134No but it's not "wrong" either, just a product of its time. Is Marth a bad person for not immediately making Archanea a meritocracy after he ascends the throne?
>>743825063three houses isn't regular feudalism, it is a crafted system with crests positioned as the focal point. le church is evil
>>743825574I don't see how its any worse. Nobles without Crests can still live comfortable lives in Fodlan. It's the same as any feudalistic society, the ones who really suffer are the peasantry.
>>743825657did you not unlock anyone's support conversations? half the characters are victims of the crest-based world order
>>743812071>First run>Wants some royal pussy>unlocks the worst route>Cant stand all the killing and leaves the game unfinishedAll I wanted was some quality puss....
>>743825865>boohoo my steak is slightly less buttery than that guy'sThey should suck it the fuck up, at least they're not working a field for 18 hours a day. The whole focus on Crests being the problem is such a retarded plot point of 3H and more focus should have been put on Edelgard having a problem with feudalism instead.
>>743826065you are ignoring the literal foundation of the story and how it contextualizes the protagonist's role in it
>>743826065NTA and Edelgard is overall wrong. Your argument is still bad. The core problem is that the story Rhea gave to explain where the superpowers came from had an unintended side effect. By telling everyone that god gave them their powers, she tacitly established that those with Crests are gods chosen people and therefore they have the right to do whatever to those without Crests. This is wrong. Their Crests come from genocide and acts of war. But because Rhea never corrected them, it lead to things like Mercedes nearly being raped by her father because her Crest bearing mother was too old to produce more children. That is something that the story must address at some point.
>>743826371I'm saying the foundation of the story is flawed because it's built on an issue that the game tries to make you think is a big deal while there's an actual real issue goes largely ignored in the background outside of a few lines Edelgard has about meritocracy or the non-noble characters' upbringings. And it's probably like this because it's easier to write a story around magic superpowers being the predicated crack in society rather than touching on a much deeper and historical subject of inequality.
Sex with Hegemon Husk Edelgard.
>>743826627I don't think Rhea being honest about where Crests came from would change most nobles' attitude towards them, they'd still see them as genetic advantages because that's exactly what they are. No noble ever concerned himself with the fact that the land he inherited came from bloodshed or injustice.
>>743826664Well that's something that the story does. The Tragedy of Duscur partially happened because Rufus was skipped over as King for Lambert because Lambert had a Crest and he didn't. Lambert wanted to establish change and half the Kingdom didn't trust him but rather trusted Rufus and his political acumen therefore Dimitri gets to watch his father be beheaded. Dimitri's logic in refusing to impose his own values on Faerghus is rooted in that event, Faerghus already showed him what they do to a king they don't accept. There's also Sylvain's story, Miklan gets an entire chapter dedicated to just him. Sylvain has a Crest and Miklan doesn't therefore his jealousy leads to him being abused by his brother therefore Miklan is ousted from House Gautier therefore chapter 5. Hell Ingrid's story is about how she struggling between the life she wants and needing to sell herself to save her family house. The existence of Crests within Fodlan isn't nothing, they're the most obvious pillars of power or the biggest bargaining chips for ill or nil for each character that has one.
>>743812071No. But she's deeper than most game characters and that makes her worth talking about.Three Houses proves that in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
>>743813987>All future opera's will assume you were in love with Edelgard anyway.Cucked by history...
>>743826976The point being made is that them just being there does have a dramatic effect on the lives of everyone in Fodlan as does the "existence" of the goddess. The class of 1180 is really fucking lucky that most of the students are generally good people at their cores. Because for every Ferdinand you can easily get a fuckass noble like Ludwig.
>>743819734>she literally attempts to resist Byleth until her dying breathPeople would call it based if it were a man doing this and say he's determined and strong.
>>743827053Crests are just a stand-in for blood/first-born/male inheritance throughout real history. That's what all your examples boil down to, they're the equivalent of inheritance disputes in real life. So going back to my original point, it really doesn't seem all that different or worse from normal feudalistic society which is why I say cut the middle man out and just make the story about that instead.
>>743812071Imagine being led by a woman.
>>743812071I was really interested in everything watching my best friend play also yuri, but later found out trannylators changed Edelgard's traumatized personality completely to be more girlboss among other bullshit along with those retards not even thinking anyone would replay this when writing to begin with. Should I just sell my unopened copy I panic bought with a gift card when GameStop was supposed to be dying?
>>743827706>batman is really just a story about crime so why bother with the heroes and just make it csi miami?
>>743822973*Emperor
Marianne says fuck jannies
>>743828671No, it would be more like if Batman focused on the villains having superpowers being the driving theme instead of what it actually is, which is exploring the psychology behind why they're villains in the first place and why Batman desires to rehabilitate them.
>>743812071She's the typical FE villain but with wiafubait because you can side with her.
>>743812071She'll be six feet deep when I'm done with her
Crimson Flower should have ended with her being put down by Thales in the end after congratulating her for removing every single thing that could have stopped the Agarthans from overrunning Fodlan off the board.
>>743813289I wish more fanart focused on her red leggings.
>>743813686shes Bi anon you can marry her as male or female byleth and she clearly had a thing for Monica
>>743834105bi implies she can be attracted to both at the same time. In reality, you, the player, locks her into a timeline where she's either normal or a dyke.
>>743831484Edelgard stompped them though. Rhea and seteth couldn't even find shambahala. Kek.
>>743813686she can literally make you her female consort
>>743834754And it was hilarious bullshit that she did. Hubert backtracing the nukes to find Shambhala was even more retarded.
>>7438120713H had retardation all around but CF was on another tier entirelyIt was so bad I'd say it surpasses Conquest and its Ball Of Plot Twist Reveal That Only Works Once
>>743812071I will not be gaslighted by edeltardsShe does not have a shortened lifespan. It is quite literally never brought up in a single line of dialogue in any content whatsoever. Not just that, it is not even implied. The ONLY place is in a single end card variation with lysithea which can be interpreted as referring to lysithea anyways and not both of them. Which is how it should be interpreted because unlike lysithea, her nonexistent shortened life is also NOT mentioned in any other ending cardShe doesn’t have a shortened life
>>743815905Mom they're doing the "vengeful brown lady with a sketchy job" thing from Octopath again
>>743812071Edelgard only cums from anal
>>743826627>The core problem is that the story Rhea gave to explain where the superpowers came from had an unintended side effect. By telling everyone that god gave them their powers, she tacitly established that those with Crests are gods chosen people and therefore they have the right to do whatever to those without Crests. This is completely false. It’s literally the same way any religion IRL handles innate talent: you were given talent by God it is up to you to do good things with it.The church both irl and in game say the same thing: you should not use your natural advantage given to you at birth with arrogance
>>743826627The church explicitly tells people that crests do not determine their worth though and they practice what they preach given the monastery is basically t he only place in fodlan where crestlets and crest bearers are treated the same, live in the same quarters, are open for promotion, etc. Telling them crests came from genocide and pillaging might just trigger that exact response by the way. >oh cool we got all this power with genocide >I want more power It’s not a solution to tell people hey you can become stronger with genocide lmao
>>743818075Yeah dude she was just trying to give it backBy pulling it out as quickly as she couldAnd having the blade pointed at him
>>743831484>Edelgard beats everyone that Thales and the slithers struggled to beat>So the slithers could have totally won even though you already killed some of their execsYour hatred just makes you suggest stupid plotpoints
>>743836937I mean everyone can wield the Powers of Offscreen too if the writers deem it so, so that claim can easily be turned around
>>743812071Does she do anal?