>>743813250
That would be cool. Now, prepare for their arrival.

twink and gaydork

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I'd buy that for a rupee

Ganondorf and Link have to fight the terrible queen Zelda in her world conquest.

would be cool to see how hyrule could possibly end up in such a state

>>743813250
I made a thread hypothesizing this exact kind of scenario, even for just one game, and I got lambasted by half a dozen Zelda "fans" frothing in the mouth about how I know nothing about the lore of the Zelda universe and why a partnership between Link and Ganon could never work.

>>743813250
Lame, I would rather have a game where Link and Zelda are siblings and Ganondorf is thier childhood, as result of thos Dorf becomes aware that some "dark force" is trying to corrupt him and actively fights back, the main objective of the game is for Link and Zelda to find a way to break Demise's curse.

>>743813250
just like in my fugtrup sfm animations

>>743813250
Lame, Ganondorf is supposed to be a powerful, Jewish usurper king that uses sorcery, necromancy and deception to win, and ultimately brings nothing but destruction in his wake. If you want to humanize him make him a spiteful mutant that hates everything good because he has a pathetic inferiority complex towards Hyrule.
Link and Zelda have far more room for deviation

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>>743815635
Ganondorf being more tank ish in gameplay would be interesting. Compared to more technical Link

>>743815894
Every single attempt to portray him as a knight/warrior rather than a sorcerer (like in OoT) or a brute (older games) sucks. Though Twilight Princess was passable because the whole duel thing was pretty cool I suppose. But he is definitely at his best using dark magic imo. And playable Ganondorf would be a disgrace, why do you even want to see that?
If anything, this series either needs a proper portrayal of Ganondorf as a scheming villain again, or break away from having to reuse him every time because of the stupid retcon that made up that reincarnation plot and a schizophrenic timeline that doesn't fit together. I cited TP, but that game would have been infinitely better if Zant never had the gay reveal and was the real boss of that game.

>>743815221

Link the archive.

>>743816286
>And playable Ganondorf would be a disgrace, why do you even want to see that?
"Former" Villian and Protag teaming up to stop greater threat. Why not?

>>743813250
there was a very bad deviantart comic that i used to read with a similar premise about 18 years ago

>>743816576
>gay MCU-tier trope
Why don't you kick a rock?
I could see a game where there's another great villain which causes a conflict of interests, forcing Link and Ganondorf together but it's ultimately part of his evil plan. That COULD be cool but it would depend a lot on having a good execution.
But fuck off with the Dragon Ball "genocidal villain -> harmless friend" antics would you?

>>743813250
That could be cute

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>>743816819
A villain and protagonist teaming up to stop a greater threat has been done before the MCU started milking it. Very bad example. But you get the gist of it.

I will not discuss things further with the mentally handicapped

>>743816819
>But fuck off with the Dragon Ball "genocidal villain -> harmless friend" antics would you?
Nah. I'm saying, have Legend of Zelda set in a universe where Ganondorf wasn't a villain to begin with. Maybe Zelda went mad instead. Or some even greater threat emerged and made Ganondorf and Link team up. A 'what if' scenario.

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>>743813250
I'd rather explore a game taking place 100 years after Ganondorf's birth, centering around a new Gerudo male having to grow up in Ganon's shadow, everyone already having preconceived notions of him as either a king or a demon entirely based on his predecessor's actions, with this era's Link being the only one to act as a true mentor to him and encouraging him to become whoever he wants to become.

I think it would be interesting if one day there was a young Gerudo NPC who's the only male born to them in centuries, but will never be made king due to what happened last time with Ganondorf (and is lucky they didn't throttle him in the crib), so he's just a friendly and kind of feminine guy hanging around instead.

>>743817237
Even gayer and dumber. Ganondorf LITERALLY doesn't have a single trait other than being the King of Evil. His traits can all be reduced to things that would justify being a sinister genocidal demon pretending to be human, even in his more "nuanced" versions.
You would have to make up an entirely new personality for him and at that point you'd do better just inventing a new character, since that's what it would be, he'd just be aping Ganondorf's aesthetic. I swear you people are all creatively bankrupt.
Here's a possibly more interesting take: In this universe, instead of Ganondorf being the only male Gerudo, there are a couple that are born every century, but Ganondorf is the only one born in the royal family. Due to an accident or something, a common male Gerudo is swapped with Ganondorf at birth, and because he isn't as corrupt or as evil as Ganondorf he ends up crumbling under the pressure and runs away to live a secluded life as a hermit. You could team up with him for some plot reasons, then find out he is "Ganondorf", then ultimately finding out he's just a normal Gerudo guy and end up fighting against the real Ganon that has another name.
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>>743817741
Exploring the male Gerudo dynamics is much more interesting imo

>Here's a possibly more interesting take: In this universe, instead of Ganondorf being the only male Gerudo, there are a couple that are born every century, but Ganondorf is the only one born in the royal family. Due to an accident or something, a common male Gerudo is swapped with Ganondorf at birth, and because he isn't as corrupt or as evil as Ganondorf he ends up crumbling under the pressure and runs away to live a secluded life as a hermit. You could team up with him for some plot reasons, then find out he is "Ganondorf", then ultimately finding out he's just a normal Gerudo guy and end up fighting against the real Ganon that has another name.
Sure, let's go with that. Anything other than the Ganondorf villain scenario again would be interesting to explore. Did any other Zelda games have potential for Zelda herself to go mad? It would be interesting too if Link travelled in a universe where Zelda and her kingdom died a long time ago. You'd only see remnants of Zelda's achievements. Trying to fit the 'Legend of Zelda' title

>>743817871
i forgot (You) . My bad

>>743817741
>Male Gerudo is forced to become a trap because the moment Hyrule royalty learns he exists they'll have him executed
>Some Hyrulian lord falls in love with him and takes him as a concubine
>He has to find more and more elaborate ways to trick him into thinking he's a girl, even as he tries to have his way with him
https://exhentai.org/g/1884058/391595c941/

>>743813250
What if twink Link gets pegged by Ganondorf?
Hot.

>>743818234
>Anything other than the Ganondorf villain scenario again would be interesting to explore
Ganondorf scenario again is fine, other villains are fine. I just don't like Ganondorf NOT being a villain. Even in this take I shared the ACTUAL Ganondorf remains the final villain of the story, just with another name.
>Did any other Zelda games have potential for Zelda herself to go mad?
Not that I remember right now, but this comment suggests to me you don't really play Zelda games and just wants to make a fanfic

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>Demise created Ganondorf as a curse to attack link and Zelda descendants for eternity
>BUT WHAT IF GANONDORF WASNT EVIL!?

>>743819016
>Not that I remember right now, but this comment suggests to me you don't really play Zelda games and just wants to make a fanfic
I just want to see more different scenarios. Also, I recently played Hyper Light Drifter, and I started wondering how a Zelda game would look in such depressing environments. I gladly take anything other than remakes and Breath of the Wild Part 3

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>>743814797
Every
Single
Time

>>743819253
Don't get me wrong. I like Ganondorf being evil and his laugh was especially funny. I just had some "what if" kinda ideas at points. I had similar fantasies for Shin Megami Tensei games too. I dig "what if" scenarios, honestly. Just modern writing sadly isn't doing a good job with that theme

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>>743813250
>an ancient evil awakens
>link has to fight it
>after being btfo, veteran ganondorf (who is missing an arm or some shit from the last time link defeated him) teaches him to wield the triforce of power like the old man in the cave
>link in turn helps him restore the gerudo and ganondorf becomes the current gerudo queen's consort, insert hilarious japanese humor as the gerudo have men in their society now but they're like Drow and the women wear the pants

>>743816541
Link's the hero thoughbeit

Let me guess: Then Zelda is in the cuckchair?

>>743819367
what you're replying to is not cuckoldry, it's just gay

>>743813250
I miss when Zelda was a Christian chad that banged princess before 2018 turned him into a faggot

>what if we completely ignored ganondorf's character as a power-hungry insatiable void and made him link's bestie

>>743819641
Nah, you're seriously gonna tell me playing as the villain in video games isn't unironically kino? That shit can be kino. I have hunger for Prototype type games

>>743819283
This isn't the franchise for the gay therapeutic modern themes to seep in. Zelda is a classic epic disguised as a game for kids, which is why it draws audiences from all ages. Every time they attempted to add these elements it has been shit, BoTW being a prime example (muh kingdom lost a hundred years ago).
>>743819253
Skyward Sword was a mistake
>>743819458
Kek
>>743819589
Real nigga right here

>>743819641
Just to nail the point home. How many fucking dozen times am I gonna play as the hero? Just let me play as an established villain already

>>743819854
Do you think Nintendo shies away from making Legend of Zelda games darker? Even old Zelda OSTs had a creepier, better atmosphere compared to new ones.

>>743819757
>>743819957
play another game that does that you retards

>>743819854
Thank you. I played Ocarina of Time emulated and while it was a pain in the ass to get max health, it was more fun to play that ACK! of the AGP

>>743820080
Sure, I agree. But sadly, there are almost no villain protagonist games coming out lately. It's mostly heroes. There are barely even any anti-hero type protags out there. I have to dig through old PS2/PS3 era games to find some gems

>>743813250
Imagine if Ganandorf stole a kiss during this

>>743820295
That's kinda gay

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>>743820060
>darker
How much of a tourist you have to be to pretend like having dark themes and having a dark atmosphere/vibe are the same thing? Are you 12?
Ocarina of Time is arguably one of the most tragic Zelda games ever, but everything is buried deep within the subtext of the story so it filters retards with no critical thinking. Twilight Princess has a darker vibe to it but it's one of the more optimistic games on the franchise.
>>743820149
You don't really need max health, I almost always deliberately avoid getting hearts in these games (at least on my second playthrough) to make it more challenging
But yeah OoT is beloved for a reason, fantastic game

>>743813250
They should have done one where, yeah Ganondorf is still an evil bastard, BUT the new villain of the game is a threat to all the land or whatever, so it warrants Link/Zelda/Ganondorf cooperating as a team to combat the threat.

>>743820405
despite the berserk references and the BROWN N' BLOOM aesthetic there's not really a lot that's edgy or dark that happens in twilight princess

>>743819475
Zelda and Link both being part of Ganondorf's harem >>>>> cuckshit

>>743813250
I'd be very interested if a Zelda game featured a male Gerudo that was not Ganondorf or evil, or a game where I get to play as Ganondorf. (not even fucking gay ass Age of Imprisonment gave playable Ganondorf, WHAT THE FUCK?) But what you described sounds faggoty and not Zelda-like.

>>743820405
>How much of a tourist you have to be to pretend like having dark themes and having a dark atmosphere/vibe are the same thing?
Not saying the same thing. I just want more of it
>>743820405
>Ocarina of Time is arguably one of the most tragic Zelda games ever, but everything is buried deep within the subtext of the story so it filters retards with no critical thinking
I agree. I just want more tragic Zelda games

>>743820405
Also, what the fuck is this image? Ew

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Face it zeldanons, we're never getting adventurekino like this ever again
It's all gay deconstructions from now on

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>>743816286
>If anything, this series either needs a proper portrayal of Ganondorf as a scheming villain again
The Ocarina remake, 1:1 or not, will undoubtedly flesh him out at least a little more than the original did. I blame a lot of the implied or unseen plot points on the limitations at the time, I imagine a lot more would be shown in cutscenes. For example we don't even fucking know what happened to the king, the game just completely ignores his existence after the courtyard segment. I was also always confused how Link opening the door of time and pulling the master sword somehow allowed Ganondorf to enter the sacred realm and get the triforce, and it all felt very messy.

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If Ganondorf was playable, how would his fighting style and movements look? Would it be like Nelo Angelo from DMC 3 type of attacks? Or more dark mage/fighter type

>>743820651
Hyrule Warriors definitive edition.

>>743817078
And your example is a goofy cartoon platformer, which is often where you see stuff like the hero teaming up with the villain. Not a more serious game like Zelda, where the villain literally kills people.

>>743819253
Demise technically just created the clash between his resurrection (in any form) against the hero and goddess resurrections. Nothing said Ganondorf was created to be "evil" he was just cursed as well. So the idea of Ganondorf permanently dying and finally resurrecting into something less evil and then becoming evil could be a thing. But nevertheless it wouldn't be the Ganondorf we know.

I wouldn't personally dislike it if there was a game where the story would be a clash between a mentor (Ganondorf resurrection or a Link) and a protegee after they discover their true passing. But it would be too cliche

>>743817741
That's exactly what I've wanted until you mentioned the feminine part. He's supposed to be a bro not a faggot. I grew up with 2 older sisters as my only siblings, they didn't make me THAT faggoty.

>>743821178
Yes but that's literally it. It's so fucking retarded that Age of Imprisonment doesn't let you play as Ganondorf, when the previous game let you play as a fucking OC calamity Ganon which makes far less sense.

>>743820969
>no pants
What a slut
I bet he doesn't even wear underwear

>>743821339
That's why I wrote 'Very bad example.' . Sadly, the villain teaming up with the protagonist scenario has gone downhill over the past 5–10 years. Sure, there were a few good ones. But I feel like most modern writers just can't write a good story with this theme. Maybe Asian writers can pull it off, though. The Nasuverse itself has a few decent examples. But Nasuverse itself suffers from other issues

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You now realize Ganondorf likely had a Hylian father. He either killed him because he was born evil, or he was an accident created by a traveling Hylian who just wanted some Gerudo pussy then fucked off, so Ganondorf is fucked in the head due to daddy issues.

>>743821127
>For example we don't even fucking know what happened to the king, the game just completely ignores his existence after the courtyard segment.
It was always implied that Ganondorf kills him and all the guards. This is the only guard you can find after the scene where Ganondorf chases Zelda, and he actually fucking dies after talking to you. Most people miss him because he's only there after the scene and before you enter the temple.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgmPa6RUfR0

>>743821642
It would have to be a new reincarnation of Ganondorf that hasn't done anything irredeemable yet, otherwise I can't imagine Link and Zelda ever teaming up with a merciless killer. The worst Bowser ever does is just kidnap people and cause destruction, so with the cartoony nature of the game it's easy to see him and Mario team up sometimes.

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>>743821127
>I was also always confused how Link opening the door of time and pulling the master sword somehow allowed Ganondorf to enter the sacred realm and get the triforce, and it all felt very messy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuB-emHooIQ

>>743821756
I thought he was an immaculate conception of Koume and Kotake lezzing out?

>>743815421
And at the end the only way for Dorf to stop Demise is to consume him, keeping him trapped, but reincarnated every few millennia... Link fights a horrific fusion of Demise and Dorf, wailing the entire time about cruel fate, pitting friend against friend, with Zelda desperately trying to contain the destruction the fight.
T'would be quite kino...

>>743813250
I had an idea for a zelda game that would be about the subjugation of the gerudo by the king of hyrule, he would know about the Zelda cycle and would try to prevent it by killing the gerudo and the link in this game would have been raised by the gerudo he and ganondorf would have been childhood friends and ganon would be leading a resistance against the king of hyrule with link helping and throughout the game ganondorf would slowly become more and more resentful of the Hylians and other races eventually leading him to become the ganondorf we know with link having to fulfill destiny and slay him with the master sword.

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>>743815221
Sounds like the type of people who hated Wind Waker when it released.

Link and Ganon being friends, battlebrothers at first but then learning about their destiny, Ganon changing after recieving the Triforce of Power and Link having to stop him would be a fun dynamic

>>743813250
BotWtrannies not beating the secondary allegations.

>>743815894
Two twinks and their bull.

>>743820405
you don't get it anon I MUST look for any secrets and boosters

>>743817730
I hate jews so much it's unreal.

>>743816576
Wind Waker sort of flirted with the idea. Ganondorf there had more of a grudge against fate and the goddesses who flooded the planet and destroyed so much life than with Link and Zelda.

Nintendo aren't going to fuck with the Triforce trio anymore than they do with Mario. So the question is, what is LoZ's "Luigi?" Someone who fans associate strongly with the IP, but can be afforded to try really marketably risky ideas?

>>743821127
>how did link opening the door make the door be open for someone to come through the door?

You might be overthinking bro. Just take a step back.

>>743813250
make it a walking simulator were link narrates his friendship with ganondorf

i jerked off to a fapfic obviously written by a women where ganon won and raped link and zelda, sometimes at the same time

>>743813250
Zelda should be a platformer

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>>743814810
This would be a great one-off story only because everyone would cry about muh subversiveness. I want Ganondorf to be a neutral force and Zelda doesn't have to be evil or an antagonist, but Ganondorf hasn't been interesting since 2002.

>>743819253

>>743823282
Fic's name? Asking for a friend.

>>743813250
>What if Ganondorf and Link were friends
Sadly, nintendo would never let that happen. Closest we got to that was Cadence of Hyrule where, for once, Ganon was younger than Link and Zelda and he just wanted to chill in his house and learn how to get better at his organ music until some asswipe from another game possessed him and made him go crazy in the future.

Post the fan comic where OoT Link's mom dies outside of Gerudo territory instead of the Kokiri Forest and Link is raised by the Gerudo.

You know the one.

Went to take a dump, came back and nothing better than my dump has been posted
Grim

>>743822685
That's all this thread is btw, there's like three retards in here that actually played games other than BOTW and the rest are porn addicted trannies making thinly-veiled fetish fics or women that want to play doll with the characters

Question for any grampas in the thread, were any major tantrums thrown when Ganondorf went from pig man in the earliest games to green skinned wizard in the 3D games?

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>>743813250
>What if Ganondorf and Link were friends (and Ganon wasn't an antagonist)
Funnily enough, something like that was actually the case in the original alien invasion concept for Breath of the Wild.
Pic. related is official art.

>>743825036
Ganondorf wearing metallica tshirt?

>>743824840
Not any significant backlash, no. LTTP had already introduced the idea that he was previously a man before being getting the triforce, and OoT just added to that. He also becomes the pig demon at the end of the game (not that you'd know, since you didn't play it), which was a great homage. Furthermore this portrayal was a significant improvement compared to his previous depiction so no one had reasons to complain.
If you thought that would validate your fanfic as some sort of vanguard you're wrong lol
>>743825036
Metallica Ganondorf has a significantly better design than the actual one for the BOTW/TOTK verse lol

>>743816819
Do you really think the marvel movies made up the trope of the former villain teaming up with the hero?

>>743825289
I will answer that question when you stop pretending not to understand things

>>743813250
>friends
with benefits hehe

>>743825396
/v/ 24/7 horny?

>>743825442
>gay bait thread likely made by a fujo
>responses are either trolling, taking the bait, or engaging with the fetish
who would have thought

>>743825376
>Y-You just don't understand
ok

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>>743813250
Yes, OP, I also want Groose to come back.

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>>743825565
>Literally said "MCU-tier"
>Pretends I said "MCU invented them"
>Tell him to stop pretending not to understand what I meant
>Pretends I said "you just don't understand"

>>743816819

A new game would mean a new story and a new 'dorf, so he wouldn't be a genocidal former villain, you dumb fucking smoothbrain.

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>>743822403
>Link fights a horrific fusion of Demise and Dorf
We just had that and he was a boring piece of shit nothingburger.

>>743825668
Read the post I was answering you wet towel

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Unrelated to all of this. I want new Spider-Man / Venom: Maximum Carnage game

>>743825036
>alien invasion concept
Alien Invasion + Legend of Zelda would be interesting

>>743827272
Never played Majora's Mask award

>>743813250
That would presumably require wisdom to complement bravery and power. Apparently wisdom is the sole domain of some other bitch. Therefore reason will never enter into the relationship between these two.

>>743813250
You mean everything Fugtrup makes?

>>743827372
I haven't played Majora's Mask yet, you correct. I should actually. Didn't know it was about Alien Invasion so, beside moon part

>>743827843
>>743827372
It's very minuscule and not the main focus of the game, so an actual Zelda based around an alien invasion is still on the table.

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>>743813250
>faggots and women twist the fundamental themes of good versus evil to fuel their perverted fantasies
Tiresome.

>>743829240
>twist the fundamental themes of good versus evil to fuel
Didn't most fiction try to put some twist on the law versus chaos and good versus evil formulas?

>>743829363
No.

>>743815635
This is such an insight on your psyche.

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>>743814797
>>743815894
>that size difference
Imagine the toe-curling, asshole busting SEX

>>743829416
Even SMT did it at some point. Nocturne had Reasons compared to your usual law vs chaos.

>>743829240
Yes I agree.

>>743829487
kek

>>743813250
>Absolute Zelda

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>>743829240
/thread
>>743829487
>

>>743823751
???

>>743817730
hm

>>743829240
>Tiresome
Yes, the same song and dance is indeed tiresome. There are other evils out there, Ganondorf doesn't need to be one every single game.

>>743813250
Or, you know, make them friends and do an eventual betrayal thing like in prequel Star Wars or Ace Combat.

>>743813250
>Ganondorf returns but finds Hyrule and all the lands under siege by Zelda that has turned evil
>Zelda casted a spell over the entire land with her Triforce of Wisdom
>Ganons forces are broken and some under Zeldas command along with her army of actual competent guards
>Link has been imprisoned and needs to be freed
>Team up to find out what happened to Zelda and free the land fighting Zeldas chosen along the way
>Actual dungeons ect..
>final boss is a shadow of Zelda and realizing Zelda has shrunken the entire land and you been traversing in her private garden the entire time while she looms above

>>743813250
What if next Zelda has romantic scenes with Ganondorf plapping crossdressing Link?

>>743815894
make a traditional JRPG Zelda, if you have the nerve to even make a Musou Zelda multiple times.

>>743813250
Dumbledorf dies.

>>743821164
>If Ganondorf was playable, how would his fighting style and movements look?
like captain falcon's movements, but slower

>>743821127
It's kinda funny how Ganondorf's own schemes to open the door just go completely sideways. He pisses off everyone in the kingdom and gets no sacred stones, no ocarina and no song of time. He wouldn't be able to touch the Master Sword either, so he definitely didn't know about that part.

>>743819456
One thing I'd really liked to have seen with TotK Ganondorf is some perspective from a guy who is like 100000 years out of time. He'd go out to continue where he left off with the conquering thing, but he feels like something is off because his old adversaries are long dead, his own people have purged him from memory, and the world has changed a lot since he last saw it.

Of course none of this was possible, because 1) He never leaves his dank hole in the ground, and 2) going by the HW game the world actually hadn't changed at all in those eons.

>>743839761
The only time they've tried to make Ganondorf even pretend to be an actual character rather than something more akin to a force of nature was Wind Waker, and even then only briefly. His actual motivations for doing shit and his perspective about them isn't explored.

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>>743813250
ok, but only if gandorf does become evil in the end and its tragic and shit because gandorf thinks he is doing the right thing

also sex with link etc etc