So why is Valve the only major video gaming company dabbling in Linux? Here we have yet another great example of Valve being ahead of its time, at this rate Steam will be the indisputable platform for Linux gaming and after you'll get salty bitches like Timmy crying monopoly because he didn't care to work on something before it became popular.
>>743828252>gabe newell: deep sea exploration>tim tencent: forest in the middle of nowhereman this guy is so lame
>>743827929because personal computers are going to be outlawed within a decade. if you want to legally use a computer you need to subscribe to the cloud.
>>743827929Linux cant even handle full screening games that are a different resolution than your monitor & you expect these retards to want to use it? Maybe get linux devs to fix their bullshit instead of focusing on vulnerabilities every 2 & a half seconds. Oh wait. I know why because linux is corporate slop not for gaming.
>>743828370While it's not as cool as sea exploration he does have the land set to keep it conserved even after he dies.Frankly it's nice to see these rich fucks actually do something useful with their cash instead of going on the infinite quest for more money.
>>743829971Man, this is the dumbest post I've read all decade.
>>743827929>Linux is inevitably the future of PC gamingSorry buddy but Xbox is the future of PC gaming, normal people will always prefer Windows over Linux. Consumer PC parts are going away so the only option for Windows PC will be an Xbox. You won't be able to build your own PC as thats part of agenda 2030 of own nothing.
>>743830719There are no good reasons not to be vegan.
>>743831409I enjoy the taste of meat. I want to piss off vegans. There's two.
>>743827929>Linux is inevitably the future of PC gaming
>>743831532>I enjoy the taste of meatSucking cock does not make you a carnivore.
>>743829971zoomer posts are indistinguishable from bait
>>743827929Because the usage rate of Linux is too low to justify anyone remotely caring about it, it requires major companies to bundle it with their prebuilts for it to gain any marketshare which outside of Valve will never happen unless Valve heavily takes the brunt of the cost for such a transition and pays companies like Dell, HP, and so on to bundle with SteamOS instead of Windows which is a laughable thought, it's not user-friendly compared to Windows to the general public even when you have a basepoint to work from like SteamOS, and most importantly it has major issues with anticheats meaning people lose access to countless major games they want to play because of it.Linux cannot transition from enthusiast to mainstream until>There is one default distro that is considered "Linux". If anyone even has to begin to hear about distros, DEs, or any of that other nonsense you have already failed. Valve is trying this with SteamOS so at least they're trying.>Devs get the stick out of their ass about GUIs and mandate everyone makes a GUI for their programs. There is zero reason anyone should ever be forced to touch the terminal barring being forced to edit some esoteric options. The fact you have to use stuff like VIM is disgusting>GUIs are actually user-friendly instead of mishmashed nonsense that doesn't even do basic stuff like remember which monitor your screen opened up the window on.Simple example: I use GIMP to quickly convert PNGs to JPGs with little to no quality loss. Every single time I export the image to become a JPG the window that pops up to show me the settings for the export always pops up on my primary screen even though everything is on my second monitor even after shutting the entire program down and it opening up on my second monitor.>You do not have to jump through any hoops for anything. If you so much as have to hear the word "Wine Prefix" or "Proton" let alone "Compatibility" you have already failed at your task of being easy to use.
Microsoft is a jeeted company that can afford to throw money at rebels to placate them I can't wait for K2 to flop so the copium runs out and everyone is forced to accept the slow decay won't stop
>>743828252>Hundreds of millions of dollars wasted on a platform nobody cares about.But enough about the Epic Games Store.
>>743832392I seriously doubt they're on track with that goal
>>743831409Being vegan LITERALLY makes you retarded
>>743832459You sure buddy?
>>743831409>what are those pills for>I take them to prevent my diet from killing me
>>743832559>keep throwing money to bribe people to use his shitty store via free games>top games free-to-play and several years old AAAwhat an absolute humiliation ritual, jesus
>>743832459They're at the point where they're losing so much money that not even fortnite is keeping them above the water
>>743832325>>There is one default distro that is considered "Linux". If anyone even has to begin to hear about distros, DEs, or any of that other nonsense you have already failed. Valve is trying this with SteamOS so at least they're trying.Part of the reason why there is no singular "Linux" is so that there isn't one single point of failure. I get your point, but it goes against part of the core reasoning. SteamOS is just a nice arch fork that Valve can optimise strictly for gaming, but that's about it.>>Devs get the stick out of their ass about GUIs and mandate everyone makes a GUI for their programs. There is zero reason anyone should ever be forced to touch the terminal barring being forced to edit some esoteric options. The fact you have to use stuff like VIM is disgustingMost programs do have a GUI front, you aren't forced to use VIM. Any DE worth its' salt already has an inbuilt text editor.>>GUIs are actually user-friendly instead of mishmashed nonsense that doesn't even do basic stuff like remember which monitor your screen opened up the window on.That I can agree with.>>You do not have to jump through any hoops for anything. If you so much as have to hear the word "Wine Prefix" or "Proton" let alone "Compatibility" you have already failed at your task of being easy to use.That one is a chicken and egg scenario in that it can't be eliminated until people start targeting Linux. Proton is at least something game devs can target for compatibility without worrying about other shit, no matter the distro.
I need help man. Can someone please recommend a hack'n'slash or shooter that has little to no puzzles? I just want to walk forwards and kill shit. But every time I boot a game up it has some faggot zelda trash in it.
>>743833347Postal: Brain Damaged for shooter aspect.Actually, put Postal 2 in there as well.
>>743827929it's not inevitable. valve can't fix the dumsterfire desktop linux is. when you depend on 50 different communities maintaing whatever vital for the os project they took on or some random guy with his 20 stars repo with a lib your system can't funtion without you will never have a stable, consumer-friendly operating system.
>>743832695>>top games free-to-play and several years old AAASo the same as every other store and platform
>>743832559not a single good game there
>>743833137>I get your point, but it goes against part of the core reasoning.Right, but there has to be one. It doesn't matter if it goes against the ethos of the OS, it has to happen. Without a centralized focus on something it goes nowhere. Arch and all the other collborations can be the basis but something like SteamOS has to be the face. Mint, Fedora, Gnome Ubuntu. Stuff like this shouldn't even be part of the lexicon of Linux to the general public. That should be enthusiast stuff.>Most programs do have a GUI front, you aren't forced to use VIM.I know, they've done pretty well over the past decade or so but you're still sometimes forced into using stuff like VIM for whatever esoteric reasons like some editor not working or permission issues. It's still not the standard to not have to open up the terminal which should be the basis of any discussion about Linux to a casual user which it isn't always the case. Again, better than before but from a mass-adoption perspective it has to go.>That one is a chicken and egg scenario in that it can't be eliminated until people start targeting Linux.It still has to be addressed immediately if any mass adoption can take place. The end user shouldn't even know that a site like ProtonDB exists because everything they boot up should by default work like a Platinum-rated game if it's made within the past 20 years. I understand when you start going further back than that you'll get into issues which even Windows does (and Linux even beats it in supporting those older games), but the way it's set up now there is no excuse why 99% of games shouldn't run out of the box perfectly no matter what you choose. Yes, there will always be fringe cases like Deadly Premonition or the Bioshock remasters, but I am simply speaking in general.It doesn't matter that Proton itself is basically magic and that it requires a lot to get working at all, to the end user that is the problem for programmers to figure out if Linux wants to be usable.
>>743833137>>743833628Which Linux you guys suggest for someone who wants to do the switch from Windows?
>>743833883Gentoo
>>743833628>Right, but there has to be one. It doesn't matter if it goes against the ethos of the OS, it has to happen.Not necessarily, there just has to be one that is popular and stable enough for it to work. The problem comes down to "which one?", because each has their own niche that they cultivate. Ubuntu tries, same with Red Hat, but fuck them. I don't know how you get them to agree at this point.>I know, they've done pretty well over the past decade or so but you're still sometimes forced into using stuff like VIM for whatever esoteric reasons like some editor not working or permission issuesMost of the time, those permission issues are shit that most normalfag users wouldn't touch to begin with, the kind of stuff that an IT person would use powershell on Windows... at least on Distros that are robust.>It still has to be addressed immediately if any mass adoption can take placeOf course, but how does a Linux developer do this? Unless if people are making native Linux binaries (Good fucking luck), you do need to have this compatibility layer to do it.Doubly so for shit like games that uses stuff like DirectX exclusively.>>743833883Personally, I use EndeavourOS, because it is Arch with a lot of GUI stuff pre-installed. Manjaro is a good stepping stone I feel to that type of environment.
>>743833883Do you play games that have anti-cheat or not like the major players or major gacha games? Then just dualboot with a debloated Windows 11. If you don't then I've got CachyOS on a lower power gaming system (1050 and some AM4 parts) which I use for when relatives pop over and I think that works pretty well out of the box.I personally would never opt for a solo-Linux machine in the state it's currently in and I think the people who do don't really play much outside of older games or need to use certain programs. I tried Endeavour but the devs want to force you to learn how Arch works instead of just use your OS like an OS and don't provide stuff like package managers or simple tools like Cachy does out of the box.I ultimately don't use it for daily driving because Shadowplay alone is something I use extensively and OBS is not even close to as functional or easy to use as it. GPU Screen Recorder was completely broken when I tried it to the point that the video it recorded only recorded in 5 second increments, and Steam's recording functions are not as convenient let alone good at naming filenames anything but the date. Not to mention I play at least four games that all have anti-cheats that either don't function with Linux or will potentially get me banned for doing Linux methods to sidestep it.>>743834030>Not necessarily, there just has to be one that is popular and stable enough for it to work.Which is essentially the same thing as what I am asking for. It needs to be the face of Linux and the default option when you think of it. You don't say you "use SteamOS", you say you "use Linux". If you have to tell someone you "use SteamOS" that's already a problem. It's like telling someone you "Play on Windows" instead of "On PC".>but how does a Linux developer do this?I'm not a programmer so I can't speak of how they do this. As it is they're already doing some crazy work with Proton, but ultimately these things need to work as native as a Windows copy
>>743832325>GUIs are actually user-friendly instead of mishmashed nonsense that doesn't even do basic stuff like remember which monitor your screen opened up the window on.KDE is miles better than anything that ever came out of Microsoft
>>743828370Gabe did not do any scientific research on deep seek. All public records show him buying nonprofit organizations, a drone and commissioning service for Norway at over price yacht rates.Gabe is the bad guy.
>>743829971>linux is corporate slopIn what kind of reality do you live in?
>>743830353you are so fucking gullible
>>743835165Regardless of if he's a bad guy or not, he has two separate ships one is the yacht and the other is a research vessel, which is called Leviathan. You should at least learn the facts first before deciding you don't like somebody
>>743835296“research vessel” that he brought and rename it. The real name is called limiting factor. The science community won’t stand with your corporate agenda.
>>743827929>linux is the futuretroonix has no future, just like the trannies using it lmao
Contrarian steamies lost, shitux lost to Windows
>>743835447Of course he bought it, are you delusional?
>>743835512the reality is that Linux is getting better and better while windows is getting worse and worseAnd you seethe about it because you're partial towards jeets for some reason?
>>743835019Even though I hate W11's start menu due to the entire bottom half of it and W10's was kind of messy good lord what are you talking about? Everything just works instantly, is mirrored on the second monitor how I want it without me doing anything, isn't floating above the bottom of the screen like a Mac, doesn't immediately start fighting you if you monkey with it, doesn't randomly crash just because I decided to change a mouse cursor or theme, and I don't get weird issues like a 1080p TV I have my computer hooked up to defaulting to 1280x720 despite not being a 1080i TV.All KDE really does better is feel far more snappy and responsive most of the time, in terms of actual usage like having my taskbar mirror Windows by being snapped to the bottom instead of floating, having it mirrored without acting like two separate instances of the taskbar, or being stable I don't have that in KDE at all. I also was not a big fan of Cinnamon either but I would still choose KDE over it. The entire "Edit mode" for the taskbar feels like absolute ass to deal with and once you monkey with anything it suddenly causes issues you didn't even know existed.Dolphin is awesome though. That feels significantly better than File Explorer.
>>743831587>waste resources running the AI bloated jeet coded OS>waste resources translating the exe to linux readablethere is no winning, but linux is inherently christian meanwhile windows is molochian talmudic.
>>743835573You know who else brought stuff your dumb leader from the United States. Do you associate him buying gold airplane as future usage for other presidents. See how dumb you sound anon.
>>743836723Genuine mental illness
>>743835751>>743835019>iT WoRksIf only you have 2020 AMD or better graphics card, NVME 8.0 or better, contains 8GB of RAM or more and never tried to modify it or customize it.Man shut up, all you prove is that Steam only works in certain hardware with certain software. It can not achieve AI related task or productivity.
>>743827929I will blow your mind: The Wii and PS3 were already Linux (BSD in the latter case). You have already been playing on Linux for the longest time.
>>743836781Anon, your leader sold phones. Why don’t you apply the same logic anon. You should buy the only American cell phone because you assumed it’s how Gabe submarine ship is applied.
>>743837131I'm currently running KDE off an old laptop with no dgpu and 8gb of ram because I couldn't take the tower with me on vacation It's more pleasant than windows UI ever was
>>743837207>PS3 were already Linuxthat explains why it had no games
>>743837207>BSDKEK LICENSE
>>743837453PS4 did have games and it's also BSD. Shame about PS5 though.
>>743837453Persona 4 was a game
>>743827929it's simple: Linux doesn't make money, its open source nature means nobody can own or monetize itevery other company is fueled by stockholders that need the money line to go up, so they can't waste manpower on shit that doesn't make moneyvalve by contrast is privately owned and funded by steam so they can just do whatever
>>743835290Proof?
>>743835279Is Red Hat, the inventor of linux, not a corporation?
Just found out you can use OptiScaler in Proton (CachyoS/GE) to spoof DLSS as FSR4 in games that have DLSS support that you can't access/enable on an AMD GPU or/also don't have FSR support or only FSR1. Changed the game for me in Strangers of Paradise just now. That game only had shitty FSR1 and I couldn't utilize DLSS on my 9070XT.
>>743837827Windows doesn't make money for anyone that isn't Microsoft either I feel like the most salient decision valve could make is to cooperate with hardware manufacturers by sharing a part of the revenue spent by Linux users with them while using their hardware That way others can actually help reclaiming the living room gaming market from consoles and mobile market from Google and apple
>>743832325>it requires major companies to bundle it with their prebuilts for it to gain any marketshareLenovo tried it and it flopped
I just wish I could fucking screenshare or have OBS record audio from ONE (1) application instead of the entire device or system
>>743838457It can't just be one company doing it, you need multiple major brands to all do it which is why I'm saying Dell, HP, and so on. Just having one company do it means barely anyone gets saturated with it. When you have multiple big brands doing it now they actually have a chance to compete with Microsoft putting Windows on everything.Wasn't that also in the early 2000s? Early 2010s? Linux is a different beast at this point.
>>743838639Yeah so basically completely unrealistic.Luckily for (You) due to US President being a dumb nigger there's a push in the EU to start using Linux instead of Windows with couple projects ongoing, i.e. https://www.pcmag.com/news/denmark-wants-to-dump-microsoft-software-for-linux-libreoffice
>>743834607>GPU Screen Recorder was completely broken when I tried it to the point that the video it recorded only recorded in 5 second incrementsWhich video player did you use to play the video? its possibly an issue with the video player and should work with mpv
>>743839135MPV was what I used. I think I also checked it in SMPlayer? I remember checking it on MPV for sure though. It also took an age to convert unlike instant replay via Shadowplay.
Do you still have to use Discord forks like Vesktop to do screenshare with actual audio on Linux still?
>>743835447Leviathan and limiting factor are not the same ship, idiot. Maybe the leviathan carries limiting factor, idk.
>>743835279In the one where 90% of servers by corporate entities use linux you stupid fucking retard. >>743830442>>743832183Neck yourselves.
>>743839382zoomer posts are indistinguishable from bait, and sometimes you really wish it was bait instead of a retarded teenager
>>743837827Epic Games is also privately owned, it is not a public company despite having investors
>>743837827Many companies monetize Linux, Microsoft, redhat, canonical and valve to name a few.
