>>743945691
I switched a few years ago to stop dealing with enshittification and illusion of choice to deshittify it. At this point I recognize Windows users as highly assuming and lazy in terms of ability to correct their own assumptions of how it works. Let them eat shit, they insist upon it.

Also fuck every nigger that suggests meant because "muh bloat". A lot of that bloat makes shit "Just Work" and starting without knowing what you're missing is a good way to send someone straight back to Windows because some autist decided to make them walk a trial by fire in a shit distro with infrequent updates and years old discussion on any mundane problem vs something up to date and current.

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But I'm already on Linux. Arch + KDE btw.

I hit my last straw today when my shitass windows computer kept opening the useless "task view" thing randomly when I moved my mouse to certain parts of the screen and it was super frustrating. Apparently the cause was having the dongle for my Razer gamepad plugged in and the only initial suggestions was to remove it and nothing else
Then I saw another suggestion that it was messing with my touchpad and activating multi-finger touchpad gestures somehow even though the touchpad was turned off
Obviously, it's impossible to turn off the "feature" itself without messing with the registry
At this point I fully accepted that Winblows is a piece of shit beyond repair and no amount of tinkering or reinstalling will put an end to all the bullshit so I'm biting the bullet and moving to Linux in a month or two.

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>>743945691
>Why have you not switched to Linux yet?
But I have.

>>743945691
Because I used to use it for about 16 years, got sick and tired of how godawful it was, and switched to Windows.

>>743945691
Because I don't use Steam.
Gaming on Linux just doesn't work without it.

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>>743946325
>Obviously, it's impossible to turn off the "feature" itself without messing with the registry
At this point Microsoft is a walking advertisement for Linux. I'm convinced they are breaking the user space just for fun.

We're full, stay on your cuckOS.

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>>743946494
>Gaming on Linux just doesn't work without it.
Have you tried lutris, unironically?

>>743945691
>Windows has a Global Device ID that you're unable to turn off
s-source?

>>743945691
because I have friends, can't play multiplayer on Linux, get that sorted and I'm coming over

>>743946953
Unless they only play kiked anticheat garbage there's plenty of games you can play multiplayer on linux

>>743946595
Why would they do that when they can larp with copilot?

>>743946953
Even EAC games plug and play with Proton nowadays, anon.

Once I finish playing Cyberpunk I'm installing steamOS

>>743947016

Typical br*wn only uses troonix so he can cheat at video games lmfao

>>743947016
they be normies, I aint about to start rambling to them why playing fucking Foxhole would be better than BF6
>it wouldn't
>they would't get it
>I'd get ostracized the moment I mention jews
Get MP on Linux pls, lobby or something idk what the fuck you nerds do over there

>>743947263
You can just play counter strike with them

>>743945691
You know what is funny? If you look at the growth of OS, windows has barely dropped. MacOS is gone up more than Linux.

Linux has gone up but 90% of that is because of steamdeck/steamOS in the last year.

I'm just baffled more people are switching to MacOS than Linux..

>>743945691
I did last year and I’ve never been happier.

>>743946595
I did and a lot of new non-GOG games didn't work.

>>743947481
Bro we haven't touched that shit since 1.6, only weirdos and europoors play that shit, what the fuck is wrong with you

>>743946325
Why is it only people on /v/ that have these weird issues? I been using windows for years and Linux since 2022 but I came across more issues with Linux and tinker than windows.

Linux is easy to use but it can just break down out the blue one.

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>>743947668
It's because Macbook Neo became the new school/college laptop of choice.

>>743947858
Because /v/ is full of retards who mess with the registry and then wonder why shit breaks.

>>743947865
I worked for K-12 schools and Chromebooks were taking over. You're probably right about colleges though

But what I'm saying is I know more people that use Linux than Mac. I never seen an actually Mac user.

If cachy ever wrongs me I'm going to gentoo

>>743945691
Ive been on linux for 3 years almost now. Gaming on pc is just shitty now

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Windows 10 still werks and I can debloat 11 when the time comes to change. Only pedos use Linux

i switched ever since steamOS came out

>>743948393
What a brown way of thinking

>>743945691
>Global Device ID that you're unable to turn off, imagine still being on that spyware OS.
Doesn't every OS have this? Why do people single out windows when this is not isolated issue. Linux has it, but the good thing is you can clear it.

I swear it's like you restarts know nothing unless some YouTuber tells you.

>>743948475
>I swear it's like you restarts know nothing unless some YouTuber tells you.
Forget that, Linux retards literally only read the headlines about a rare issue on Windows that happens to 3 people in Uganda and now think it's happening to everyone and how you should now switch to Linux from Microslop

>>743948448
Sorry rajar I don't want to use another broken distro where nothing that's needed for day-day life works

>>743947858
I've never had any major problems with windows for the last 25+ years ive used it. It's only since switching to windows 11 2 years ago that I'm running into basic functionality failures on this slop coded piece of shit.

It can't even tell the time properly without constantly being one hour behind, no matter how many times I switch it. The task bar icons are constantly disappearing, the cpu has to spin up just using the windows UI, casually browsing the internet uses over 16gb of RAM, search bar is beyond useless and now I have no standard way to find my fucking programs. They fucked up the right click menu which I'm reminded of every 5 minutes. Bitlocker triggers whenever I update my linux drive and if I hadn't prepared for that by backing up my code I would have lost all my data. Windows has also deleted my gpu drivers after forcefully updating, the fact that it forces updates is also annoying as fuck. Also, it crashes more than Linux. This is completely ignoring all the privacy invasions and the attempt to turn my PC into an AI data extractor.

That company is collapsing under the weight of its own incompetence, I'm not sticking around to see how much worse it gets.

>>743945691
I'm too depressed to make major changes in my life

>>743948475
In Linux you can remove or alter the Machine ID completely, on Windows it gets reset with every forced update.

>>743948104
Mac was usually the college laptop of choice, especially when it came to anything involving digital art. Colleges would even specifically ask that you use one, just to guarantee that you can actually run the software used in the course.

Nobody wants to admit it, but Macs being locked to specific hardware actually has advantages, mostly that they can optimize the absolute FUCK out of the entire OS (and software) for the specific hardware it's installed on.

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>>743948475
>Doesn't every OS have this? Why do people single out windows
Because Microsoft stores a copy of your original Global ID on their servers. On every update your registry gets reset and a query is sent to Microsoft to retrieve that original identifier.

You better start believing in a global surveillance state, because you're living in one.

>>743948581
My whole thing is people don't really care about actually being spied on, they just want to hate on windows.

People must be seeing that Linux distros are beginning to adopt some not-so-great practices. The bigger Linux gets, the more it will attract attention from those we all know.

>>743948475
Like how they kept talking about Copilot or AI code in Windows, meanwhile the fucking Linux kernel is being vibecoded now, Torvalds has descended into becoming a vibecoder, every distro is making their own agentic AI, and the fucking Linux Foundation itself started collaborating with OpenAI.

>>743948607
I been on 11 for 5 year's with no issues. I don't believe you, there more to your story.

>>743948858
For the moment at least the Debian people still have user anonymity as a core principle.

>>743948590
So you're just regurgitating rumors
Got it

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>>743948921
>every distro is making their own agentic AI
And I guess you have a source for this sweeping claim?

>>743948647
Cool, I read you can only clear it. Thanks for the information.

>>743948921
Source?

>>743948961
Whatever helps you cope with your shit distro, windows still works and has 0 issues for the average end user. Stay mad jeet

>>743948845
This done with smart phones as well and, especially Apple ones. Have you seen how much info the government can gather from your IP address? It seems like you’re not aware of just how much surveillance is already happening on you.

You're not safe on Linux lol

Yes, I do believe in global surveillance it's why I believe only way to be safe is to go completely off the grid. But now we have flock camera. Anyways stay safe brother..

>>743948938
True, I might switch to it.

>>743945691
>Why have you not switched to Linux yet?
I'm tech-retarded, anon. Chromosome retarded too.

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>>743946494
NFS2-3-MW-Carbon, Kyodai Mahjongg, MageSlayer, Unreal etc... I play and played shit tons of non Steam retro games and they all work (some do need direct3d wrapper same on Windows). The experience can be even better since gamescope can fix alt tab for old games like Galaxy Angel.
>>743946595
Heroic is objectively better. Has more stuff and can auto download protonge.
>>743946953
But Sven Coop works on Linux.

>>743948937
Yeah you fucking do, you just don't care. Your right click menu absolutely hides basic functionality behind extra clicks, the rearranged windows menu no longer has a programs list and the search system is retarded, you just don't care. Memory usage expands depending on how much memory you have, if windows isn't wasting tonnes of it then you just don't have much to begin with. You don't live in the uk so it's not constantly confusing gmt and bst. You don't have bitlocker enabled so you aren't flirting with absolute disaster, I'm retarded for even using it but I have it enabled for valid reasons. The stuff I'm complaining about isn't all freak weird shit, it's also basic failures in design

the EA app broke again

I switched 4ish years ago, not going back

Mint on the laptop and Nobara on the desktop.

The only thing that I have actual gripes with rn is modding and playing certain old titles. They barely work on windows but theres often little to no support for linux. Sim City 4 is one of em. It's a shame but I don't think having a windows install would fully fix that problem.

The peace of mind of finally getting away from that shitty OS is priceless imo.

>>743946953
>playing modern multiplayer slop with anticheat

you're cucked in more than one way friendo

Because troonix can't play Tarkov (the best game ever made), so it's worthless

>>743949391
I've never faced problems like that. I work at a company with 1200 employees using Windows. Most of the issues, about 90%, aren't even related to Windows; they're just poorly designed applications we use that cause problems. Usually, when a Windows issue does occur, it's because someone at work messed up while pushing out updates.

Shit HP drivers case more issues than windows.

I think Linux is great but if nvidia drivers fucks my Linux system up (which has before) it's not the OS fault but the shitty drivers.

>>743949686
How is Nobara?

Hearing it's made by single developer is very off putting. Not a fan of Bazzite but like it's dedication to gaming..

>>743946494
do you pirate? if not why are you even on pc? do you only play league or something?

>>743949039
So I was right
Imagine your knee jerk response being to defend browns because you're scared of new things

>>743949975
Why are Linux users on /v/ so less left?

>>743945691
fedora or arch?

>>743949812
I'm not talking exclusively about problems, I'm also talking about design failures you're fine with ignoring and I'm not. The fact that your company has a billion locked down machines that were set up by IT specialists on a corporate version of windows that isn't allowed to install anything is not an argument in favor of it. I'm not installing an OS to treat it like a work computer I don't own, every prior iteration of windows was usable as a normal operating system, Linux is usable as a normal operating system without fucking up constantly. The point of the OS is to run normal programs without fucking up

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>>743949864
Nobara has worked very well for as long as I've used it. Despite the single developer thing it constantly receives updates and the dev communicates with the userbase frequently

It's not retardproof like Mint but any common problem you have you can usually solve by searching online - the wiki and forums are thorough.

Of course I cant make a perfect comparison since mint is running on my laptop but I would say it's worth a shot, it's solid

>>743950154
Neither
Fedoraisms are really annoying and you don't really get anything out of running base arch
Limine also gets rid of the sole flaw of arch distros
There's really no reason not to go cachy unless you want a passive and a layman facing computer

>>743950365
>unless you want a layman computer

Soooo... the majority of users on this board? This isn't /g/.

>>743950507
This also isn't Instagram or tiktok
If you're at the point where you're interested in the innards of your pc you're not a layman

>>743950161
My personal version of windows works fine Which is for gaming.. I never had a issue. I never treated it like work computer..

>>743949686
Amethyst mod manager has made modding linux games just as easy as windows for me. It doesn't support every game but it covers the major ones, the other stuff I've had to mod were mostly manual but I could see it being annoying if you wanted to use something like fluffy mod manager.

>>743950846
I'm hoping as the userbase grows + ages that the modding communities will naturally shift over too.

I haven't heard of Amethyst before but projects like that are already encouraging

With games like simcity 4 it's basically running exes via wine/proton, pointing them at your game files and praying to your savior that the game will run. It took me days to get RE2+3 modded via RE:Enhance, absolute pain in the ass.

>>743950839
What the fuck are you even arguing with me about? That you don't care about design faults that I do? That's not a randomly occuring issue, your right click menu is just as fucked as mine, your start menu is just as retaded as mine, your windows automatically updates like every windows 11 machine. Are you trying to tell me you haven't had issues with bitlocker, dual booting linux and UK time differences because you don't use those features and don't live in my country? No shit sherlock.

The fact that you're riding microsoft dick so hard on everything else tells me you're probably also lying about windows wasting RAM, using a retarded amount of cpu power to run the basic UI explorer and other minor issues like vanishing taskbar icons.

>>743950736
if you want the userbase to grow you need more laypersons - aka people trying to get the fuck away from windows. Pointing them to shit like Cachy as an initial distro is not helpful in the slightest despite how cool you think it is.

>>743951193
these days games on a proper linux distro meant for gaming will just werk (if zero "anti-cheat" layer exists) however, stop using trash distros.

>>743951193
I think it's relatively new, it's kind of hard to even Google it but its on nexus.

Apparently the RE games are supported on amethyst. I'm currently using it to mod the shit out of cyberpunk and it works great. When I play requiem it'll be on linux so I'll have to swap over from using fluffy for all the resident evil shit, we'll see if it works.

convincing me to switch from windows the most popular os would take some serious convincing and quite frankly I don't give a fuck and I can avoid problems just sticking with windows and not being a hipster faggot

>>743949975
Why are you obsessed with third world brown people? Weird self hating jeet

>>743951278
I know, I'm not saying normalfags should be using cachy
But if you're here, you've already cleared the apathy threshold and you don't need to be corralled into mint/bazzite/steamos

>>743951332
You mean mint, nobara, and steamOS?

Older games that are barely usable on windows will not suddenly 'just werk' on linux, and getting them to work is significantly harder. It's often easier to just mod it on a windows PC and copy the files over to your linux PC.

>>743951461
Thank you kindly for your input rajesh

20 rupees have been deposited into your account

>>743948992
>>743949017
Debian recently started voting if they allow vibecoding into their code and an overwhelming majority is supporting it

>>743949375
No matter which Proton version I tried, UE 4 / 5 games just didn't work

>>743951871
>every distro is implementing AI
>oh actually debian just voted to allow vibecoding, that's all

faggot

>>743951278
Cachy is a good reccomendation for people who own steamdecks because it's almost identical but it should really come bundled with the discovery store like it is on steamOS. The default mouse settings for Linux also need an overhaul, it was a nightmare trying to re-bind my logitech mouse. Outside of that cachy has been fine from a tech illiterate standpoint.

>>743951946
>treating Debian as if it's just some obscure Distro and not one of the big two
That shit will come to Ubuntu and then to Mint too
You retards try to dismiss or deny the truth, AI is taking over Linux and it already has kernel-wise

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>>743951871
>Debian recently started voting

>>743951780
most of the linux problems are either:
>nvidia related. (lack of support.)
>anti-cheat related. (lack of support.)
not because linux "can't do it."

>>743945691
this picture is older than most people broswing /v/ right now

>>743952089
You can only think of the present moment and not future
You are genuinely as intelligent as some indian streetshitter

>>743952293
Says the guy saying linux is over bc people are voting on vibecoding for a single distro

Again, you're a faggot.

>>743952135
I'm literally a linux user lamenting over how much of a pain it is to mod and run old games - not all of them, but some of them

I never said they can't do it either, you illiterate dipshit. I can't tell if you're trolling or ESL at this point.

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>>743945691
I'm not an elitist tranny with a superiority complex.

>>743952347
it's just a single Distro now but tomorrow? It's going to be in majority of Debian-based distros
You are genuinely low IQ and can't think about the future for even a second, only the present
Makes sense as technology haters are often retarded as fuck

>>743947263
kernel anticheat is fundamentally incompatible with user freedom and ownership of your hardware. "lobbying" for a solution means lobbying for removal of kernel anticheat, that is happening even outside of linux users.
the only other alternative I can think of would be EA themselves writing a kernel module anticheat you have to install, idk who in their right mind would install that, the only normgroids on linux are using like a stem deck or something and not even valve has crossed that line despite having a hugely successful competitive multiplayer game with first-party linux support

>>743947263
>Get MP on Linux pls
blame the kike devs who purposefully break their anticheat to not work on linux, and until they see linux as a viable platform, they're content with only supporting goyimdows

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Why would I ever stop using Windows 7?

>>743945691
I'm already on Linux on my laptop. I'm just waiting for windows 10 to die completely to also remove it from my desktop.

>>743952652
I really hope you jeet are actually being paid to derail these threads instead of shitting them up in your spare time.

>>743952652
llm assistance in coding is acceptable if you review it and rigorously verify with unit testing. the problem with vibecoding is nocoders don't like or don't know how to do that. I would hope distro maintainers know after decades doing this shit to retain their same standards for review and use the new tools responsibly, because it's not about the tool but rather how to fit it responsibly in your development process.
I realize this is somehow a controversial view but I feel it's the most pragmatic one.

>>743945691
The programs I use don't have a Loonix version
Nvidia user
Nvidia User!!!
Im thinking of redownloading Apex Legends
The drivers suck ass on Linux
I use OneDrive to sync between my PC and laptop
I hate having to edit conf files, there's so little documentation of Linux, and there's even less for an specific distro

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I'm on win10 LTSC, things just werk for the most part so I have no reason to switch. I use Linux for my programming job and windows for vidya. I use the best tool for the job.

Yes, proton runs the absolute majority of games just fine right now but the ergonomics of running pirated games in linux are still not beaten by the humble
>unzip and click the .exe
of windows. You always need some faggy launcher in linux, if it isn't steam then it's lutris or it's some wrapper shellscript written by some polish autist you just hope works (which never has a torrent swarm as healthy as the windows one).

Also, both games I currently play the most are impossible to run on linux
>league of legends (kernel-level anticheat)
>heavily modded skyrim (it's already crashing constantly and just barely keeping ~50 fps, I don't want to bring the wine layer on top of it)

Whenever win10 LTSC dies, idk hopefully win11 will have gotten a bit better, or maybe linux gaming has improved.

Linux kernel is slowly turning into a vibecoded mess. I hope the BSDs become better for gaming eventually.

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>>743953416
>The programs I use don't have a Loonix version
>Looks inside
>Root rape
>Jeet spyware

>>743953416
>I use onedrive
>I can't be compelled to use a better nonspyware version of my current software
>I dont know anything about current day linux drivers
>I literally dont know how to google for linux documentation

Ladies and gentlemen - the filtered.

>>743953718
I'm unironically hoping for the return of the Hurd.

I'm using Windows 11 and and i'm fine, i truly don't understand how the fuck are some anons having issues like >>743948607 or >>743946325 happening at all
(havign read more carefully i see that different countries apparently have issues with time zones or connection)

Indeed, Linux might be a better alternative on which i just need a little time to adjust to its commands and whatnot, but at the end of the day, for the amount of use i give my rig both for games, occasional office work and browsing internet, it just works for me and is clearly not worth the effort yet.
Maybe in a few years, if W12 makes even WORSE decisions deisgn-wise

>>743950234
Are system upgrades still manual checklists of stuff to do? Last time I used Nobara I had to use the website to make sure I configured everything properly for major updates.

>>743945691
>Troonix doesn't work well with nvdia.
>95% of the gpu market is nvidia
Gee, I fockin wonder wonder why oh why.
Never mind that troonix breaks completely after every slight change.

>>743954060
It def needs audio and GPU acceleration for gaming. I dont know if the NetBSD rumpkernel will offer enough support, otherwise new servers might have to be written and all.
Only just seeing it boot on thinkpads in recent years.

>>743954809
I havent used my desktop in a few months but usually in a major upgrade they'll add a some additional instructions of things you might want to check/do before you perform the upgrade. I only had to do this once in the 2-3 years I've used Nobara. Otherwise you just click 'update' on the application and you're good.

>>743954060
And as for gaming on Hurd, i did get Enigma playable in a vm. So it can do something.
And for board games, stockfish and gnugo worked too.

>>743945691
I switched from Linux to LTSC and have had zero trouble or issues since
It feels nice to have a classic Windows experience

>>743954934
>repeating the same old tired issues that have been resolved within the past decade
get with the times, granddad

>>743954739
How much worse does windows have to get? genuinely curious.

I've worked on my dad's laptop when he needs help and the interface runs like fucking ass, constantly. It legitimately feels like he has a virus on it with the amount of lag in the UI. I know that can't be the case considering all he does it use Word and Powerpoint, and I installed adblocker on his browser.

How much more bloated with spyware does the windows OS need to get before people say they've had enough? Or is there literally no limit and Bill Gates Satya will continue fucking everyone in the ass.

>>743953626
I'm on the same boat, as long as LTSC exist I will not switch to linux.

>>743955674
I guess when those issues become a constant in every computer, or at least in a big majority, like what happened with Windows ME
Because again, where your dad can have those problems, i somehow don't. And it's not a state-of-the-art, Ryzen 9 with a 5080 graphics card or anything fancy either.
At the same time never forget that sometimes those issues can also be caused by other factors, old components like HDD or processors failing, temperature, lack of cleaning, some virus/malware he might have catched before you installed Adblock, etc

>>743955674
Maybe your dad just downloaded a bunch of random shit slowing the machine down? And maybe he has a weak machine as well?

>>743955859
Same here
Normal Windows is just really shite while LTSC just feels like a normal desktop
Been using it for a year and have had zero issues so far

>>743946297
Based me too

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>SSD broke down
>my Linux Mint is gone
>time to test new distro on another one
>downloaded Fedora Gnome, Cachy, Arch, and Nobara on Ventoy already
God distrohopping is so fucking addicting.

>>743945691
All my games, save data, and apps are for windows versions. It would take weeks to switch and that's assuming I don't fuck up and flash it all.
I'm not retarded enough to upgrade from 10 so it works for now.

>>743960272
I have systematically went through my windows install, every single directory and archived every relevant file with possible personal data
It wasn't hard, it was quite liberating actually

>>743961717
Backing up in itself isn't hard. Replacing everything to work on another OS would be.

>>743958310
And ventoy is so fucking good for testing them out. No need to dedicate a USB stick to a single installer.

>>743945691
Because im on Windows 10

>>743950846
>fluffy mod manager.
have used it for MH games in the past just fine

>>743945691
You know how people say 4chan is shitty but it's better than everywhere else? Windows is like that.

>>743963364
isnt it a pain in the ass to set up? If i have to do more than point to the directory of the game I'm not really interested.

>>743963425
Nah
Grass was indeed greener on the other side
Windows was the equivalent of being sedated with SSRIs

>>743958310
>Ventoy
scan everything

There's no good Arch based distro they are all maintained by literal whos

>>743964805
Arch

>>743964846
No but you see I want someone else to do the work for me and all I want to do is install it and goon in Blender without having to worry about the singular maintainer of a distro having a psychotic breakdown and emptying my bank account

>>743945691
>>Linux runs 99% of games out there nowadays
I will when Minecraft Bedrock works on it

>>743951928
sounds like a (you) problem, retard

>>743964805
Many fundamental packages are maintained by literal whos and then taken by distro maintainers
Software development isn't exactly the way to get clout
If anything using a derivative distro like cachy is better, you're getting arch people and cachy people looking at what goes into your repo

>>743945691
i need windows to draw my furry porn

After having to deal with registry fuckery for work, why is Windows like this? Is it really that much better than config files that you can directly edit?

>>743945691
I switched to Linux about 5 years ago.
At the moment I'm pissed because I wanted to play the Marvel Tokon beta but they blocked Proton.

>>743945691
because I'm lazy

>>743966101
It's because the anti-cheat has to run in kernel level, right?
It's a meme thing that has started to get on my nerves when it comes to multiplayer games.

>>743965436
why delete? otherwise seems fine I guess

>>743966028
no, regedit is an unholy abomination and i curse everytime i am forced to use it

How pozzed is systemd? I hear it's almost as bad as wangblowz.

>>743966231
only hated by oldschool loonix neckbeards, everyone else does not care

>>743966231
It's an endless debate back and forth on what a init system can do and whether modern Linux should adhere to Unix philosophy. Personally? I don't give too much of a shit, I don't use it, but not for any philosophical reason.

>>743966198
Yep.
I'm used to playing other ArcSys fighting games that have no anti-cheat and have never had any issues, nor have I ever encountered a cheater (to my knowledge).

>>743945691
I have. No regrets except for when I was thrust into the exact same situation as >>743949686, same game and all. Also never got darthmod to work for E:TW. All the hundreds of other games I've played and even the ones I've modded have worked fine thankfully.

>>743966231
It's almost entirely just philosophical with a mild amount of politics, nevermind that that philosophy is completely busted open by literally every single desktop environment
If it becomes bad you'll hear about it

painis

I use fedora

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>>743966231
Systemd hate is mostly retards going "new thing bad". The good thing is that if you don't like it, you can just replace it with anything else.

>>743966330
Unix philosophy works only to a certain degree with simple tools. After a certain point it just becomes a hindrance. I do wonder why these people are unable to apply practicality on top of their philosophy.

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>>743946297
>you get a modern up to date os BUT you must update it daily or it won't work the next time you update
>forget to update for a week
>update
>everything breaks
arch really is the moguro distro

>>743973116
i do arch updates on a laptop once a year if that
works fine

>>743973334
i lost like two arch installs for forgetting to update for two weeks one time and a month the next, switched to debian testing and I've been happy ever since

>>743973116
The only thing that can break is the arch keyring chain of trust because the keys expired which means that the update just fails. Other than that things will continue to work. You can refresh the keys by installing archlinux-keyring.

>>743973396
did you get filtered by the keyring?

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>>743945691
cachyos w/ windows on a spare disk for things that need windows + anticheat (so far, just destiny 2 and marathon). I barely ever boot into windows, so chances are I'll just reclaim that disk back at some point.

>>743949174
Thank Billy Clits and Dubya for that... 9/11 was the excuse they wanted for the patriot act.

I moved to Android tablet and I'll be trying out Winlator for VNs.

>>743973856
no, actual package breakage where i updated packages that expected smaller in-betwren updates that didn't happen so they refused to work

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>see a Linux thread
>read the text
>it's actually another "poll non-Linux users for their opinion on Linux so we can debate them" thread
Remember when we could just have a normal Linux gaming thread here? I guess everyone who posted in those threads just uses the /vg/ one instead, but I wish I didn't have to go to a 99% gachaslop board for this one thing.

>>743946564
windows?...

I am on Fedora. Nvidia driver just werks. Also got my AI furry porn generator installed no problem. Never touching windows again

>>743953718
PS5 runs on FreeBSD or something. I doubt it'll happen because no company would bother, but it's not impossible.

>>743947148
Did it come to pc?

>>743974268
can you name an example

>>743974454
As time goes on the resistance to Linux will only shrink

How do we get people to use Vulkan? Shit just werks.

>>743975920
it's been like three years so i don't remember

>>743976000
Just wait
Valve is going to encourage its use without telling anyone
Arm can't use directx so the developers will naturally switch to a universal API to accommodate Steam's expansion to arm
Who knows, maybe it'll result in consoles and apple adopting it too

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I love linux but the reality is it isn't ready for prime time. It can play 99% of games, but barely any of the games normalfags actually play.

Roblox, Fortnite, League (50% of the PC gaming market right there), COD, Valorant, etc. just don't run. 90% of gacha games don't run either without a bunch of hacks that could get you banned.

I exclusively use Linux but it's crazy to imagine that someone's Roblox obsessed bf is going to switch over to Linux when the games people actually play just don't run. It's great for 30+ boomers like me who has a second computer to play those games with partner/etc, but not for everyone.

>>743974454
The more people switch to linux the better the platform will get

More resources, modders, distros, compatibility options, etc.

>>743977053
itll happen eventually, just give it time. by the time the 'big titles' get ported over they'll have no more excuses left

focusing on fixing current problems like accessibility and centralized modding platforms should be the main focus. Can't do anything about kernel anticheat so who gives a shit

piss

>>743979823
Thank for bumping

>>743965080
Why you want to play the shit version of minecraft?

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KWABOTY

>>743979823
I just don't like traitorous Oses that do shit behind by back.
Just enjoy McAfee, you're getting it one way or another.

>>743947858
>Linux is easy to use but it can just break down out the blue one.
I don't know where this bullshit comes from, something doesn't "just break down". Most distros are point releases (ever 2 years or ever 6 monthts) like Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora and their forks. The base is mostly stable and the updates you get are minor version bumps, for bugfixes and security fixes.

Yes, it's likely that something like this happens on Arch, but even popular forks like SteamOS ship stuff carefully and community distros like CachyOS have rollback implemented, where you can easily rollback to a working state within seconds. Just like bazzite, but you will likely never need it.

Breakage happens mostly because of mis configurations. Linux is actually really stable and predictable. If you what you are saying would be true, no fucking company would ever use Linux.

>>743946494
>Heroic Games Launcher
For Epic Games, GoG and Amazon.
>Lutris or Faugus or Bottles
For every other store. Faugus is especially great for pirated games and repacks.
>Emulators
Available in your AppStore or from the dev as AppImage.

>>743946595
vibecoded slop

>>743977053
>Roblox, Fortnite, League (50% of the PC gaming market right there), COD, Valorant, etc. just don't run.
Truth nuke, but astolfo senpai that hurts so much. I LOVE Linux, I don't want to use Windoze. But I feel social pressure, I want to have fun with my frens :/

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I switched about a year ago. Last week I nuked the windows partition that I haven't booted up in about that much time. feels good man

>>743982050
>>743982281
larp samefag

>>743982430
bro just learned 2 new words. newfag schizo

August will be the first true month to see Machine adoption, right?

>>743982937
>right?
Yep, I can't wait.

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>>743945691
I did. It took about a week to backup and convert all of my hard drives into this ext4 bullshit so that I don't have to manually get them mounted every time, but I don't know enough about computers to understand the difference between it and the other storage formats.
I'm also still trying to figure out the best way to set up my non-steam games. For some reason everybody online keeps saying to use Heroic and Lutris, but when I looked into them it says they require me to sign into my accounts through their launchers, and at least one of them says they use AI to "generate" your game installations.
Then I learned you can just use Steam to run the installers and then point it at the real installation folder later, which is what I've been experimenting with right now. Got 1/230 of my GOG games reinstalled for linux so far.

>>743984227
Holy based. Just stick to ext4 or btrfs. Heroic is good for some other game stores and trusted, works even on windows and mac. It's great for GOG classics.

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>>743948370
>>743945691

>>743982937
It can't be that high, estimates say 10-20k units per week, and it's been 4 weeks. It'll be like 50k units, not even noticeable.