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What was the point of this character?
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to kill it so you feel bad
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chinga, he's loco in the cabeza
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to get you to chase the big leagues, chica
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>>743974878
la chuchu ay cramba ey v
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>>743974987
I didn't feel bad though, he was fucking annoying.
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>>743974878
diversity hire
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chinga tu madre cabrone
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He's the high energy guy that provides you with an initial motivation. The guy with more greed and ambition than good sense or brains who drags you along with his dumbshit ideas.
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Same as Edgerunners. Driving home the "no happy endings" theme by killing off your buddy in the opening. Granted, the opening was longer than most modern campaigns
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>>743974878
He was made before they reworked the game
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>>743974878
Probably had more shit going on until CDPIDOR got Reeves.
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>>743975304
What oh wise one was the original story? I only played the game before the dlc.
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>>743975207
>>743975304
>>743975326
yeah, talking about the opening, I remember a theory that Sandra Dorsett, the woman you rescue was hit by a Nightcorp AI that brainwashes people and V got infected when he liked his personal link
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>>743974878
He died too early.
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He basically establishes the world for the player, both in how he interacts with V and in his death.

>Explains the general ins and outs of street life in a way that makes sense should V come from a Corpo or Nomad background
>Shows just how naive and desperate newer mercs can be in a world that chews them up constantly
>His death shows how brutal the corpo industry is, how you really can't trust anyone including/especially your handler, and how no one really makes a name for themselves in Night City despite everything pushing people to believe that you can so long as you're tougher/smarter/more driven
>Shows the player and V that trying to make it big in Night City will inevitably lead to you being crushed by the corpo world, or at least lose something in the effort

He's kind of a whatever character, but he highlights the world really well and gives V a good starting point for understanding that people will die often pointlessly during their time in Night City. Jackie's death is, ironically, pretty forgettable in the grand scheme of the game, which lends even more credence to shit just happening in that world. Anyone can get offed on a job gone wrong, on the street, all with hopes and dreams.
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>>743974878
i fucking hate spanglish and i was so glad he got gunned down in the fucking tutorial
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>>743974878
to stop you from banging this girl
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>>743975460
Pretty likely, considering she did hack Night corp and they absolutely do brainwashing.
My personal pet theory is that Night Corp is now run by a rogue AI.
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I'm not sure who the biggest gonk is. Jackie, Evelyn, or Dexter.
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>>743975518
doesn't V go to Poland with her in the loser ending?
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>>743975503

I actually like him but I'm Hispanic.
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>>743975567
Jackie. Dude thought he could get away with stealing from Arasaka when they have him on camera. That takes a special kind of retarded.
Evelyn takes second place, fucking over so many people so much more powerful than her and thinking she can outsmart them all.
Dex had at least a concept of a plan that might have worked if the starts aligned.
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>>743975569
No. She goes somewhere- Nepal? maybe back to Poland?- alone.
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>>743974878
ijole puta OP you can't just ask such loca questions
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>>743974878
DEI
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>>743974878
this is loco character
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I felt bad for Jackie, just another poor gonk chasing legend status only to be completely forgotten and overshadowed by his friend.
And even worse, turned into an engram by Arasaka if you send him to Vic
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>>743975794
>spoiler
Nani the fuck?!
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>>743975794
>bought CP77 on launch day because I loved the Witcher
>like CP77 a lot
>CDPR is now gutted, all good people left
>sequel will be made by amerimutts
>because of game and anime focus is on Night City not the Cyberpunk world so we'll probably never see other locations
it's never been more over, CP77 was a happy accident never to repeat
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>>743975567
I'd argue Evelyn. Jackie is a dumb, bright-eyed merc looking to make a name for himself and willing to take on big jobs despite how doomed they may be. While you can consider him an idiot for that, he was given a clear plan that everyone said would work and a whole crew ready to go. Should he have seen the writing on the wall? Maybe, but it's hard when everyone is basically saying, "Trust me bro, we're going to make it big with this one!' Dexter is doing exactly what his job entails. Manage jobs in the background, be a middleman, and, if anything goes bad, burn it all then run. He did everything perfectly, the only mistake he made was taking a job way above anyone's pay grade, one that would have gone perfectly if not for crazy circumstances. And, when the job went bad, he did what he had to. He's a bastard, but clearing the space and running really was the only option.

Evelyn is the one who thought she could rob Arasaka of a technology she barely even understood. She was the one who figured that robbing one of the biggest corpos ever was a good idea after some light reconnaissance and sex with her target. Better yet, she was willing to hire on two generally low-grade mercs to do it all. Sure, the plan was good and would've likely went off without a hitch if Saburo didn't show up, but she would've been hunted down by Arasaka eventually. Regardless of how it all went down, she would be suspect number one after the fact.

Evelyn didn't deserve what she got necessarily, but I wasn't surprised with how bad she got it. It was a terrible idea from start to finish.
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>>743975464
indeed he's supposed to be your best friend yet as a player you barely know him and his death has no impact. he should have died 2/3th of the main story
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>>743975657
Jackie's a dumb guy who just thinks he can make it to the big leagues on guts alone. Evelyn came up with actual "PLANS" and got other people involved in them when every single one of her ideas was retarded.
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>>743976050
>I'm implicated in the death of arasaka after a heist on his place while the voodoo boys know about it. Hmm I'll go back to work at my brothel where my mind is raped what could go wrong
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>>743976098
This. Jackie was just a tool in it all, Dexter arguably the one who went and sourced/bought the tool.

Evelyn is the one who chose how to use it, and essentially decided to smash a hornet's nest in the hopes of finding something good.
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>>743976008
maybe we get an actual rpg game down the line though, thats something at least
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>>743976175
Admittedly, trying to run would've probably had her caught even faster with Arasaka being able to basically check every corner of the city. The best thing to do would be to try to find some dark corner in some alleyway and hide, hoping to get lost in the mix of it all.

But she was fucked either way. You don't get away from being a prime suspect for the murder of what is basically the equivalent of a corpo emperor. She was an idiot from the start and a dead woman walking.
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>>743976008
>we'll probably never see other locations
I think I saw someone at CDPR hint that we might go to other locations in addition to Night City, though my preference for the sequel would be to just expand on NC and give the existing world more depth than add more scope as that will likely just result in more emptiness.
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>>743976098
It's two different kinds of dumb. Jackie really could have seen that this won't end well. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
Evelyn does retarded shit, but I think it's a psychological problem in her case. She has this chronic need to backstab everyone. I don't know why, but she just can't help herself.
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>>743974878
To be made of assets created for the 20 previous discard drafts
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>>743976379
>Jackie really could have seen that this won't end well. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

I would agree Jackie is a dumbass, but like I said in a different post, it's really, really hard to see the writing on the wall when everyone's covering it up. You've got Dexter, one of the bigger names for handlers, telling you you're going to make it big with this job. You've got Evelyn saying she's done tons of reconnaissance and set up for months, even with a full recording of the place you're robbing. Hell, you've got V, your rising star merc friend, who has your back. All of this with the mindset that, if it goes well, you can finally escape the hood and do right by your family.

Jackie is dumb, but I never really fault him. Evelyn is dumb, in which she has no excuse and knows full well what she's getting herself/others into. She chooses to play with fire while telling others it won't burn them.
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>>743975567
Evelyn and it isn't even close. Both Jackie and Dexter are working with intentionally imperfect information given by a moron who tried to steal technology that even her handlers (who she tried to screw over btw) didn't fully understand. You can excuse two people being lead by someone with intimate knowledge of the arasaka family for getting ahead of themselevs
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>>743975929
Yeah his body gets intercepted by Arasaka and they use Soulkiller to turn him into an engram. Except he's not a fully conscious copy like Johnny is, because he was dead for a few hours before they got him his mind is stuck looping through his strongest feelings before death, like a dementia patient who can only remember the worst moments of their life.
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>>743976668
Dex has the full picture, and is smart enough to prepare for it.
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>>743976754
They only do that if you send his corpse to Victor. If you send the corpse to his mom there'll be a whole quest with a funeral and all that
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>>743974987
He's killed too early for the audience to feel anything.
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>>743976897
And despite everything it nearly worked too. If Evelyn had told people that saburo and yorinobu's relationship was degrading fast, then he and t-bug probably could have had a contingency for increased security. The failure of the op is all on Evelyn thinking that her fucking yorinobu made her some grand schemer, and that getting the job done fast was more important than anything.
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>>743976930
You're "suppose" to do side missions before arasaka mission so you feel more connected to the world before hand. It's stupid but that's how it is
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>>743977065
They really should've cancelled or at least delayed the moment Yorinobu walked into the lobby.
Even then, if it had worked perfectly, Dex would 100% have burned V, Jackie, and Evelyn. Then ran for the hills and retired as far away from the eyes of Arasaka as anyone can ever be.
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>>743977186
they really should have done a lot of things differently, honestly hearing Pondsmith talking good things about the game makes me think its all to keep the money coming in
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>>743977186
>They really should've cancelled or at least delayed the moment Yorinobu walked into the lobby.

Kinda hard to do at that point since they used the main, and only I think, elevator to get up to the penthouse. One that Yorinobu seemingly makes a beeline for the second he gets to the hotel. Not to mention, even if they did get on the elevator, get out on another floor, and start to head down a different way, Saburo shows up and gets choked maybe a minute or two after Yorinobu gets to the penthouse which leads to the entire place being instantly locked down.

They kind of had to stick to the plan at that point. The problem was that the plan kind of sucked ass regardless. It's like you said, even if everything worked perfectly, they fucking robbed Arasaka of one of the biggest pieces of tech they've been working on that was even being used to prolong their owner's "life".

They were all fucked going in.
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>>743974987
Yeah this
Knew he was gonna die the moment they did the little bro montage with him the scene after you meet him
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>>743974878
ayayayay caramba el taco señor
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>>743977517
As I remember, Yorinobu shows up the moment T-Bug finally got through the ICE. They're still in the hotel room at that point.
>>743977573
That's Saburo.
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>V, help me bring communism to a whorehouse
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>>743974878
he's a big guy
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>>743976008
In fairness it was a really good anime.
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>>743974878
I remember the trailer with a cool montage of all the adventures we would have making a name for ourselves in NC with our buddy.

I emotionally checked out when the same montage played after the intro.
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>>743977342
I personally don't mind how they did it. A heist gone wrong due to people being full of themselves and high on the idea of making it big, only to be crushed by forces beyond their imagining, is a great trope to start a game off with. Especially in a cyberpunk setting where you have to make it clear how much an individual person doesn't matter to the giant corpos that rule the world.

The fact that the plan is so obviously doomed lends credence to the fact that people in Night City are so desperate, naive, and greedy/hungry for an escape, that they will do really, truly dumb shit, thinking they're the next Morgan Blackhand or Adam Smasher. Which you see constantly in the game as a whole.
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>>743974878
To bait and switch you in the trailers with all the cool stuff you do together that LOOKS like gameplay, just for it to turn out to be a tiny cutscene in the beginning of the game

actually unforgivable, fuck this stupid game and all of its apologists
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>>743977627
I don't see the problem. You get rid of a bunch of tyger claws, and then the claws get rid of a bunch of whores.
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>>743975207
It was like 2-3 hours total
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>>743975460
Brainwashed V into doing what exactly?
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>>743977626
Maybe I'm remembering wrong then. I thought they were in the penthouse when they realize the son was entering the hotel and heading up. Then the father shows up and everything is fucked sideways.

Ah well. Regardless, it just shows even more how greedy Evelyn was, how blind Dexter was, and how naive Jackie/V were.
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>>743977683
Remember when they hyped up the life choices as if it mattered? Turns out it is just a cold opening (corpo is the best BTW) and some flavor of "corpo bad" conversation options. If they had the chance to remake the game, the life choices should have at least given you a unique car/gun/romance option/story paths
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>>743977667
Davido was a shit son,
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>>743975567
Evelyn >>>> Dex > Jackie
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>>743975794
>spoiler
i send him to vik on my first playthrought beacuse in my mind mama wells seeing her dead kid would crush her if only i knew
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>>743977812
Also that T-Bug is absolutely willing to send them to their death if it comes to that.
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>>743976050
>>743975567
Evelyn for sure, a retarded whore who gets hired by cybernigger haitian scumfucks who know where she works and lives, decides to scam them without knowing what exactly she is attempting to heist for herself, the smart thing to do was contacting netwatch immediately and getting a new faceplate, cyberware job and identity because even if she didn't betray the vodoo NIGGERS she'd be screwed over by them not in the literal sense.
Even if the heist was successful she would've been giga raped by both arasaka and voodoo boys.
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CHINGADA PUTA MADRE
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>>743978042
Hilarious how she gets possibly the worst death, first to go, and then immediately forgotten as well. At most you get a one off line if you talk to that hack/chip seller who says she's probably a fried corpse somewhere in some forgotten warehouse.

It's wild how bad she gets it. Arguably deserved, but still funny considering how everyone else gets some kind of moment.
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>>743978084
Yeah, the Voodoo Boys literally waited for Judy to leave the apartment for like 5 minutes and then hit Evelyn with the Suicide hack
Tragic really
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Really they should have had more netrunner, no matter how good t-bug was or how much sabatoge that could be done, having at least a pointman would have been good. T-bug got fried the second shit got real
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>>743977165
To the world sure, but that was how I played the game the first time through and it made me feel even more distant from Jackie because I was just off doing my own thing. I get a bro montage and then fuck off for like 15 hours hunting down guys, raiding bases, leveling, interacting with tons of other people, etc. Then we jump back into the main story when it's time to unlock the other 90% of the map and he dies after whining in spanglish for the last hour. On top of him just being mildly annoying, I didn't feel much of anything because of how forced it seemed.
I think what others have said is true and he was thought up before they remade the game. He should have died like 75% of the way through the game, not 5% in. You get WAY more attached to Johnny and it feels like that's what Jackie's role should have been; a persistent companion.
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>>743977165
But side missions in the retard baby prologue playpen have nothing to do with jackie.
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>>743978170
No amount of runners will help you once you have the full attention of Arasaka. Their plan depended on no one noticing they were in until they're already out again. More runners would have done nothing for them.
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>>743978131
Bad writing, but it was suppose to be a bigger deal because t-bug is suppose to be a fairly well-known netrunner and was basically jackie/V's talent scout
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>>743977165
>You're "suppose" to do side missions before arasaka mission so you feel more connected to the world before hand
how would that improve my relationship with jackie? he is not part of any side mission of the locked area
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>>743978131
Being a netrunner seems like such a raw deal. If you're not amongst the best, there are always bigger fish out there that can effortlessly fry you if you run afoul of them in any way.
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>>743978192
Honestly would have been better if Johnny engram was two chips (for transferring the mind from one body to another) and then you have all three for most of the game. Would give Johnny a kind of idealogical foil of someone who is retardly optomistic in Jackie
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>>743978165
>Yeah, the Voodoo Boys literally waited for Judy to leave the apartment for like 5 minutes and then hit Evelyn with the Suicide hack
>Tragic really
That's funny, never thought of it that way due to how dissonant the gameplay and the narrative is, aside from that one prologue scene where eyes aug gives you UI and palms enable ammo counter.
But I had some enjoyment enacting Localized Nigger death by twisting off the heads of any voodoo boys I saw and as I do it using the suicide quickhack on the rest.
>>743978102
>PENDEJO.
>NO HABLAS INGLES, AMIGO
>CABRON!
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>The voodoo boys are rapidly approaching your location
>they're not looking to negotiate
>what do you do?
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>he's obsessed about getting something
>dies because of it
sounds like it's meant to be a warning about jews
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it should have been jackie in the chip
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>>743978286
It probably is bad (or unfinished considering how the game released) writing, but I do actually like how quick, brutal, and emotionless her death is. It really did add a layer of, "Oh we're fucked," when you hear that she gets spotted, immediately panics, then screams in agony as she dies over comms.

No fanfare, no goodbyes, she got made and fucking annihilated. It really shows that, no matter how big or famous you are, you can always be taken out just like that.

>>743978419
Right? It's kind of cool how that's even highlighted in V if you go with a netrunner build. There's literally a, "I send a hack that makes you want to put a bullet in your head," ability that they can use pretty much effortlessly. Even if you are the best, all it takes is one misstep and someone throws a digital nuke directly into your brain.
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>>743978510
Call netwatch and watch as the voodoo boys get immediately booty blasted. After that I fuck Rita Wheeler
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>>743978510
i run away while they start kissing each other
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>>743978286
>>743978630
in the original story trailer t-bug betrays you alongside the fat fuck after jackie dies
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>>743978510
Send a picture and my coordinates to netwatch then hide in a faraday cage/panic room while the entire building is rigged to explode in a controlled demolition.
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>>743978419
It is even more raw when taken into context. No matter how good a netrunner is they are forever stuck in a bartmoss world where AI's are coming to fuck them up
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she should proposed sex to V in exchange for help
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>>743978812
Sex is probably an exact science in night city, and she couldn't provide equitable servicing comparable to what she wanted.
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>>743978812
I wanted to hatefuck this bitch more than any other character in the game and it's not even close. It sucks you need mods to accomplish this
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>>743974878

Originally he was going to be betray you and be the one to shoot you like Dexter did. He was repurposed to pave the way for Johnny to basically replace him as your constant ad-hoc companion.
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>>743978812

She would have made for an amazing Corpo life path romance option.

But CDPR's balls got cut off and they just wanted their woke misery simulator.
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>>743979090
Life path should have given a romance options
>corpo: counter-intel samauri who also got boot after (you) were fired
>street: reckless street rebel who assigned her or himself as your rival
>nomad:some mechanic girl or guy who's tip lead you to night city
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to highlight everything stupid about that world
>dude we gotta do one big job then we'll be legends among freelancers and criminals!!!!
yeah for what purpose retard
so they name a dumb ass cocktail after you in the afterlife bar?
cringe
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>>743979568
people do worse things irl for less
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>>743979568
the world is shit, the only paths open to you in regular living is either corpo suit or slaving away for meager wages
imagine if IRL the only way to make more than minimum wage was being a corporate suit for Bezos/Zuckerberg?
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>>743979568
He obviously came from the exceedingly poor corner of night city that needs the cartel-feeder gang Valentinos for anything resembling saftey (btw Valentinos are one of the weaker gangs getting bullied by the militech funded 6th street) . He grew up idolizing the night city idea of "making it"
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>>743978630
And "netrunner" V isn't even a real netrunner, just a Solo who knows how to passably work a cyberdeck.
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>>743974878
He was the mentor. They speedran the fist half of the hero's journey. He died so V could die and resurrect with Keanu Reeves in her head.
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>>743979090
>>743978976
>>743979439
After their awful handling of relationships (and women) in Cyberpunk I dont think I'll ever trust them with another game again. CDPR is totally cucked.
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Yeah, Serpant is the best song in all the game stations.
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>>743974878
uh your friend?
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>>743974987
FPBP.
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>>743979843
Literal script kiddie, but uh, with disturbingly good scripts.
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>>743979938
>not RESIST AND DISORDER
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>>743977667
>anime
>good
lol
never watching that trash btw
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>>743974878
Character development, it makes protags pretty fucking powerful and the story interesting.

For some reason, the West likes killing people, more than they do anything else. It's like they worship a god of death or some other entropic deity or some shit.

Wait a fucking minute, is Khorne behind Trump's Presidency along with Nurgle?
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>>743980092
Mah choom.

>EVERYTHING BURNS
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>>743979938
That's not Chippin In
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>>743979938
I always end up listening to to the Impulse FM set
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>>743980619
Sad how panam is the only good romance option in the game. Judy is only for the most abusive lesbians, river is a rapist, Kerry is retarded, and they didn't do enough with Rouge
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Vincent
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>>743980619
I bet she spent her teens and early 20s getting banged around by Maelstorm and now needs a good guy
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>>743974878
>What was the point of this character?
He's just a leftover from the pre Keanu Reeves story line.
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>>743979938

>Black French Rap
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>>743981168
Any music with french vocals really
What a horrible language
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>>743979938
pebkac plays the best music
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>>743980734
>river is a rapist
lolwut
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>>743978494
>That's funny, never thought of it that way due to how dissonant the gameplay and the narrative is
Honestly it made sense to me; they establish pretty quickly that the Voodoo Boys are all expert Netrunners, and that Suicide is a hack that can be inflicted upon others
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>>743978165
>>743981870
Doesn't Alt wipe out all the voodoo niggers before Evelyn dies?
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>>743974878
Emotional damage. :(
He is the best character in the game desu
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>>743982029
No
The VDBs are a group that spans the entire globe, not just Night City, so even if you eliminated the NC chapter, another group will simply take their place
Also, Mike Pondsmith, the guy who created the Cyberpunk TTRPG, is black, and the Voodoo Boys are his favorite gang
Picrel
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>>743982029
I think it is netwatch
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>>743980235
Worse, jews. Regardless of what political party you vote for.
Welcome to USA, reddit space nigger.
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>>743982029
Not sure if it can happen. The VDB questline starts after you pick her up from the scav shithole, and two timers start at once - waiting for Hands to give you the chapel meeting, and waiting for evelyn to kill herself.
Could be you can make it to the chapel before evelyn dies but not sure.
>>743982172
Yeah, but those other groups wouldn't have the motivation to go after Evelyn.
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>>743982172
>the guy who created the Cyberpunk TTRPG, is black
Yes. Literally every single person already knows this.
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>>743982263
>Yeah, but those other groups wouldn't have the motivation to go after Evelyn.
You mess with one Voodoo Boy, you mess with them ALL
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>>743982324
>murder their whole enclave
>they don't do shit
KWAB Boys
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>>743982172
WE WUZ HACKERZ AND SHIET, NIGGA.
>>743981168
>>743981453
>picrel
Agreed.
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>>743982297
>Literally every single person already knows this.
You'd be surprised...
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>>743982372
Only if you are a tourist who thinks that Edgerunners fixed the game by association.
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>>743977695
This is correlation. The actual story of CP was harmed irreparably by the inclusion of Keanu Reeves. It should have built you up as a nobody, the failed infiltration of asaka taking place about halfway through, and focused on revenge for Jackie for the second half. EVERYTHING with Johny is cringe as fuck and would have been better served with something else
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>>743974878
to provide a lively presence so that it feels emptier when he's no longer there
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>>743976930
>>743975047
It worked on normalfags.
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What did "hitting the major leagues" even mean to Jackie? The game treats it like a promotion in the merc world where you get more lucrative jobs from top fixers, but he made it sound like just wants to retire after the job is done, because he's tired of putting his neck on the line.
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>>743982661
Is there any actual info on the pre Keanu Reeves story line? Because Jackie, T-Bug, Dexter etc really do feel like leftovers from a completely different story line.
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>>743976930
This
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Replayed it recently and turns out Jackie didn't die from the shootout like I originally thought but from the fucking glass shard when falling from the roof. Such a trifle in the world where biomon, blood pump and subdermal armor exists. Gonk didn't even have the most basic chrome and thought he's gonna hit it big, lmao.
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>>743982801
It's both, because it's still mostly a vague fantasy for him. It's a mix of the prestige and recognition that comes with hanging out at the Afterlife, the money, and the idea that he can live safer from now on. Of course, none of it ever shakes out the way people imagine it.
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>>743982948
I thought the saka drone that shoots up the glass got him. Is it actually just the glass?
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>>743977165
Please list every single side mission that Jackie shows up in.
I'll wait.
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how hard would it be to get non-chromed fully natural pussy in Night City?
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>>743974987
I’m glad he died, he’s an annoying beaner who is way too happy
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>>743974878
I bet you $100 he was the original sidekick til they got Keanu Reeves
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>>743983015
Nvm I'm retarded, it actually might be a shot from the AV
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>>743974878
dude mexico lmao
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>>743976008
I don't think there's a bigger sign of being a slop eater than being a witcher and cp77 fan
being a souls fan is less embarrassing.
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>>743982801
I think what he truly wanted was just to become a legend of the Afterlife and then chill and enjoy his fame and fortune, not having really thought out what hitting the big leagues truly meant beyond "I'm cool now" and that it'd mean bigger quantities of more dangerous work and an almost assured death.

Like, Dexter is the one who goes all "Who even wants to live to 30? Blaze of glory mang" despite he himself clearly being like a 40s-50s old fixer that acquired mediocrity in the business and then decided that was good enough and he was just gonna send other people to work instead. It's just catchy slogans and promises of a better life and recognition that hide the crude reality of sacrificing your life and health on a violent and stressful job, with most of the people spouting them not actually following through because they sound cool to the uninitiated but suck in practice.
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>>743983103
from that single interaction in edgerunners it sounds like people dont often chrome up there pussy and cock
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>>743974878
Help you convert to our lord and savior jesus christ, don't you want eternal greatness?
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>>743974878
Game would have been so much better if they cut all the cyber psycho bullshit Rivers faggotry and Troon Racer and instead let you spend the first 3rd of the game playing the six month montage.
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>>743982661
This is correct*
>>743982803
We don't have official statements, but the game was in development for what, 12 years? Looking at old trailers it was obvious he was added waaaaay into development and like I said, ANYTHING would have been better. Badass Rockstar terrorist fight the power man is so fucking lame and all I can think the whole time is that he's Keanu, not a character. Maybe we could have been kidnapped in the escape and had Jackie on the soul chip, implanted in us because he betrayed us and Asaka knew he would have slowly taken over our body and it was only a matter of time. There's a lot of room for conflict and revenge, or forgiveness and redemption. Everything about it is better
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the biggest problem with the game is Night City itself
too small and shallow
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>>743974878
He helps you learn Spanish
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>>743982481
So... Normies, then
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>>743976008
From what I heard the next game is gonna be in Chicago.
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>>743975794
>>743976754
>>743977964
ive never sent him to vic on any playthroughs how the FUCK did i never find out about this and try it myself holy shit
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>>743983420
>from that single interaction in edgerunners
?

Both Lucy and David had chromed genitals
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>>743974878
He was supposed to be your buddy for the game's first act, but that became cut content and was reduced to a short cinematic of you and him doing jobs before throwing you into the tower heist mission, after which he immediately dies. That would've been a lot more affecting if you actually knew the guy. The character is pretty much vestigial content, created for a bunch of missions that never made it into the release version of the game. He's just a victim of the game's tortuous development cycle.
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>>743974987
Hack writing technique, E33 does the same thing and once again it was only effective on the goyest of cattle
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This game should've been third person
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>>743974878
That is literally the question the game asks, and it's for you to answer, not anyone else.
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>>743978812
Reminder that Johnny is canonically a Christian
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>>743974878

hermano...
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>>743974878
You could have saved her, /b/.
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>>743977627
>V, we must seize the means of reproduction
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>>743974878
Teach you some Spanish words
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>>743977627
In my game she just fucked off and deleted my contact lmao, can't even call her.
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>>743974878
WASTED
Also wouldve been better if Keanu was Jackie and this guy would’ve just been some other character
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>>743975503
I get the whole
>no one makes a name for themselves thing
But it’s contradicted by larger than life characters like rogue, johnny, alt, all who just live it up the legendary status of being CP2020 OC, or am I missing something here? They all seemed pretty famous and well known to me.
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>>743974878
to show off the writers' college degree in writing 101
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>>743977692
True didn’t really grasp that myself at the time
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>>743976008
We really need a cyberpunk MMO, I would love to see Anarchy Online remade with the same gameplay but new modern graphics.
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>>743978165
It was VDB? Wouldn’t that have been actually traceable though?
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>>743980169
lol
nobody asked
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>>743989454
The tabletop has "legendary" examples for each of its classes, Johnny Silverhand is one of them
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>>743974987
Imagine if they killed Vesemir during the prologue against the griffon
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>>743989885
It was not. Or, to be more specific, there is no evidence of that.
Her freakout at Clouds was definitely them.
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>>743975464
They made what should have been 2/3 of the game into a montage lmao. Such a piece of shit game
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>>743975503
ChatGPT ass summary
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>>743976008
You can't be serious.
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>>743974878
I liked his design and VA
I wish he stayed around for longer
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>>743975207
The opening act is less than 30 minutes though
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I AM GOING TO ASK THE BLACK WALL OUT ON A DATE
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>>743977792
Gay sex with the male prostitute on Jig Jig Street
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>>743975434
It isn't even in the original game, only old promos where Jackie and Nigger team up to kill you. The original heist was going to be a mutual gangbang of betrayal.
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>>743974878
He's your anchor to What Came Before, gives your character a life (and the story a consistent reason to look back) beyond just starting when you hit Play and working everything out from there.
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Would
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>>743989454
I'd call them exceptions, which is part of the damage. you can go, see? they made it, it's doable, I'll be just like them. but in the end it means nothing. and very very few of those foolish enough to try and follow get anything good from it.
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>>743989454
Rogue sold out, Johnny is a grudge ridden ghost clone of a dead man, and Alt is an abomination.



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