>kills the only good gacha
>>744190169Why are zoomgroids so obsessed with this genre?
There is no good gacha
V4 was amazing. Turn sexy mage into booby demon. I miss v4. Fuck nexon.
i only know nexon from playing combat arms as a kid
if all it took to kill your "good gacha" game was to make it more expensive to play, was it actually really any good?
Gachafags never learn
I would have been really upset about this change a few years ago like around volume F but everything since then has been kinda lackluster and I lost a lot of interest.
>>744190465same, they also ruined that game
>>744190349Millennial here. It's the last medium that didn't go gay (sexy girls, good writing). Japan kneeled to western woke and they only released stuff in Japanese only anyway.
>>744190169I feel like ba and umamusume are the only actual gachas that respect your time and budget. Shame ba finally got hit with nexon curse. I just hope the ea jews dies from water tablet poisoning sometime soon.
>>744190770is it still around?man i played so much of those zombie modes back then i loved that shit
ZZZ isn't Nexon tho.
>>744190938no idea but I remember the game being pay to win. I also enjoyed zombie mode more than every other gamemode
>>744190835aren't umamusume dailies extremely long? iirc people were complaining about it when it came to the west
>gachasloppa>good
>>744191170Its hoyo. So its even more jewish
>>744191170ZZZ was jewy from the start
>Playing BAUnironically better off just consuming porn of it. Not like you miss out on characterization on fan made content
>>744190773>millenial hereAaaand ignored.
>>744190349>>744190351>>744190556>>744190628>>744191258>>744191535die
>>744191607u first darkie
>>744191535Maybe I should just do that. Moralfag will never fuck his students anyways in canon. My God, it's To Love Ru all over again.
>>744191637Most doujinkas are secondaries themselves anyway. Making porn for BA is just another gig for them
>>744190351
>>744190169They also killed the only good version of DFONeople DnF also started off strong but they changed way too much. It also had a lot of really badly balanced damage that ruined some of the more romantic APC fights in tower of despair before they killed that too.Cursed game completely shit the bed but that's the korean MMO curse.Oh and Nexon is cancer in general with monetization but that's normal.
>>744190349because its for mobile hardware, free to get into and gooning orientedits a perfect storm, the zoomertoddlers never stood a chance
>>744191723Dragalia Lost... all their money
>>744190773>Japan kneeled to western woke and they only released stuff in Japanese only anyway.imagine actually falling for this memereminder jp vidya companies other than sega, crapcom and SE exist, despite what your favorite eceleb may have led you to believe
>>744191254they added sweep recently, which means it basically auto-completes them with a single click if you already cleared them once on the account
>good>gachalmao
>>744190773except most of them are sneaking in at least one alphabet person to see if the audience like it
>>744190349because they are brown
>>744192204All the other companies make games that look like they belonged in the PS2 era.
>>744192204Small studios don't translate their games and even Steam release is a huge maybe. Japanese sites are geo blocked.
>>744192348>muh gwaphixloljust go back to ball and gun sloppa at that point>>744192485>he doesn't already know japanese>he doesn't already buy from JP sites to avoid giving money to the yacht companyunderage or brown?
>>744192204Body type A/B says hi
>>744192530I just said japanese sites are geo blocked. You can't buy shit there with mastercard and visa. And no I will not learn Japanese.
>>744192530Post hand
>>744190169You'll still play it anyway, browncattle.
>>744192546I actually struggle to think of any JP game not from the aforementioned glorified westoid companies that do this on the JP text aside from elden ring.And even elden ring hardly feels it counts when NPCs treat you male or female either way, jews got scammed on that one.
>>744192530>learning dead language of the country with dead economy and dead demographyShould I learn Hungarian, Greek or Ukrainian as well?Modern English dubs are better than sub anyway
>>744192572>He's too stupid to learn japanese or buy from JP sites.Good, the sooner monkeys like you self-gatekeep out of the hobby, the better.
>>744192623I know Nintendo added same sex relationships in Tomodachi life remaster.
>>7441926462 more weeks amirite?i have been hearing this exact same cope since the early 00s>>744192675that's not an otaku game niggait's also not a remaster
>good>gachaoxymoron
>>744192718>i have been hearing this exact same cope since the early 00sWomp womp
>>744192670>Just go through 20 hoops and learn Japanese to buy and enjoy their gamesOr I play gacha that is "japanese" enough.
>>744192791Not a good argument when the usd is going through pretty bad inflation and the japan PM is dropping mutt bonds like mad.
>>744192827>i have been hearing this exact same cope since the early 00sTick tock, noodlebug
this whole thread is one phoneposting fag samefagging about politics like a jew
>>744192802>he settles for literal temu bootlegs out of lazinessdon't complain when you get gaped by literal EA jews then lol
>>744191795To be fair Nexon America is just a different company that's run by total retards, the actual Nexon has nothing to do with DFO fumbling. Nexon is currently also investing a lot into trying to get dungeon fighter to become more popular in the west with khazan, arad and project overkill all being projects made to get more global interest in the series.
>>744190169The average gachafag experience:>new gacha "game" comes out>"hey anon come play this new game it has waifus and barely any gameplay!">game starts introducing paid skins>"its optional. you don't need it!">new character comes out that completely outclasses an older one>"don't pull for meta. the old ones are still viable!">new game modes are introduced where its optimal to use the latest new units to clear it and and gain the one-time rewards.>"its optional. you don't need it!">game introduces PvP that locks powerful items and pull currency behind it>"its optional. you don't need it!">game introduces a clan system that locks Level/farm boosters behind it and are almost impossible to level unless you pay with it with the pull currency>"don't worry about it! its optional!">game introduces a boosting system that requires 5+ dupes for your character to get stronger, including breaking the Level cap.>"don't worry. its optional!">a new character comes out that outclasses an old character that already outclasses an even older character>"waifu over meta!">story mode starts scaling so that it becomes harder to use your older units and more difficult to gain the "free" pull currency>"just keep logging in to get your free pull currency bro!">the game modes are becoming so brutally difficult it becomes an absolute REQUIREMENT to use the newer unit with 5+ dupes not just to clear the game modes, but farm them as well.>"don't worry anon. you still have your waifu :3">game changes gacha rates>"WTF I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS GAMBLING MACHINE IS ASKING FOR MY MONEY THIS GAME IS RUINED FOREVER!">gets banned from the official discord server
>>744192623>>744192718>
gacha games killed MMOsfuck gacha games
>>744192942>I only heard about gachas from someone on /v/, which also only heard about gachas from someone on /v/: the postDaily reminder that most modern gachas have better gameplay and production values than any Nintendoslop, and are free to play
>>744192953this is segay, nigga, they have been glorified westoids since the dreamcast
>>744192990>MMOs>needing help killing themselves
>>744192990Move on, unc. Gachas are MMOs for the new generation.
>>744192991>most modern gachas have better gameplay
>>74419153590% of monkeys who repeat uoohhh shit don't even play the game, understand the story or know the name of the charactersthey're THAT pathetic
>>744193039Yes, games like ZZZ and WuWa shit on games like Automata and Ninja Gaiden that /v/ deepthroat so much
Isn't ba just an autobattler with vn stories? Why would you miss that?
>>744193010how about the fire emblem games?
>>744193096>*literally button mashes and wins*lolalso reminder ZZZ in particular has a button toggle that literally makes the game play itself in auto mode
>>744193183>it's okay when /v/'s favorite game does it
>>744193214You literally can't button mash your way through this when it's parryslop lol.At least try make fun of modern FF or something so everyone can laugh at your pathetic attempts of beating a dead horse and claiming your garbage is better than a trash bin.
>>744193291>instant meltie and deniallol
why are you even engaging with obvious bait
>>744193291>You literally can't button mash your way through parryslop lol???Also, I very much remember mashing my way through Monsoon's fight. God that game fucking sucked.
>>744193183You don't need to press anything here for that part. It's just a sequence of auto parries after the first one that's intended to feel cinematic.And no, it doesn't have an auto mode.
I have really been enjoying the chink and gook tears over their sloppa self-destructing these past few months.
>>744193042Its not even that good in the first place.
>>744193183>reminder ZZZ in particular has a button toggle that literally makes the game play itself in auto modelmao no it doesn't you retard, you posted one particular scripted block sequence. HSR is the one with the auto mode.
>>744190835>blue archive>respect your timeAbsolutely not? Doing dailies is extremely tedious
>>744192942Name five.
>>744190773>It's the last mediumAnd ignored you faggots never read actual visual novel without gacha trashYou subhumans deserve everything and worse.
>>744193590Everything in the gacha revenue chart
>>744193096If I wanted to play gacha, I would play dragonsword
>>744190169As someone who never played it and never will and just looking from the outside, why do this shit? BA was never a top earner but it seemed to make a modest profit every month and have a fairly loyal core fan base. Why fuck all that up chasing a sliver more profit knowing you risk destroying your game?
>>744193618Pick five of them and show proof of your claims.
>>744190349They don't even know what honest business practices look like. Back in our day you might have to pay like $5 per month for membership. Now it's you have to pay $5 for a 0.1% chance to get a JPEG you really like.
limbus is still going strong bro
>>744190169>he only NOW started hating N*xon
>>744190773>Gacha>Good writingBraindead tranime troon
>>744193725>Back in our day you might have to pay like $5 per month for membershipActual oldfag here. Back in the day subscriptions to games like RO and FF11 was 12 bucks a month, then for a thing you wanted (like an MVP card or leap boots in FF) you needed to fight everyone on the server and their mom to hunt down one specific monster that only spawns so frequently (in RO's case they spawn 1~ hour after their last death) and hope that the .000001 drop rate went in your favor.Both situations are a waste of your precious resources, it's just that the resource one wastes is your wallet and the other wastes your time.
>>744190169Uma is still alive though.
>>744193764>t. shartytroonYou lost, back to your dead website you you worthless freak.
>>744190169Don't you know? The only good gacha is a dead one.
>>744190349>Games are $70>Games aren't worth their price anymore>Consoles/PC parts are expensive as shit>Zoomers don't know how to pirate anymore>Zoomers see their family/friends playing cool anime game on their phones>Zoomers don't bother with old games because no one bothers to talk about old games anymore>Gacha characters get talked about all the time in social media spaces>Gacha characters have the better porn >Gacha is free and can be played on phones>Gacha games tend to be bundled with a community So on and so forth
>>744190169Nexon killed Trickcal? Damn.
>>744193684>Why fuck all that up chasing a sliver more profit knowing you risk destroying your game?Because BA has been straight up hemorrhaging money since early into the year, not even the recent event that was supposed to bring back fat money for june could really save the game.And now new gacha like astral oratio is just going to fuck over BA even harder in the long run due to providing actual loli characters instead of "le cunny (actually JKs and hags so the BA karens don't get offended)".Frankly the game is beyond saving when nexon already is massively downscaling on the comiket doujin commissions to shill the game, it passed the point of no return long ago and nexon is just doing a last squeeze to get some extra money from the suckers.
QRD?What happened to BA?
>>744193953None of those points require the game to be a slot machine for JPGs thoughbeit.
>Gacha>Goodlol
>>744190169>does nothing>wins
>>744194109this anon never played pachinko and it shows
>>744193725I'll really never understand why people like you come into threads to talk about things you have no understanding of. The worst part is by saying the stupid shit you heard someone else parrot, your ignorance spread further to a point retards like yourself actually start to believe it and think that it's true.75% of gacha players only buy the monthly, which is $5, or 1/3 the cost of an MMO subscription, yet gets new content 5x faster. Another 20% or so play them as entirely f2p. And maybe 5% of all gacha players that have more money than common sense actually drop fat paychecks on them.They're literally just MMOs for the modern generation. They're full of social-lite features and have gameplay simplified enough for both Japanese businessmen to play them on their bullet train commute to work and zoomers with their first iPhones looking for cute anime girls.
>>744194095And any game that tries not to be a slot machine gets drowned by the competition simply by not making money alone. Its a rough world in the games business
>>744194065Previous system:>2 banners per patch.>Hard pity at 200 rolls.>Whenever you got an SSR, pity counter stays even after getting an SSR.>Pity carries over between banners.>You could get an SSR in one banner, then cash in your hard pity on a different banner.New system:>2 banners per patch (or more).>Hard pity at 200 rolls, per banner, with hoyoslop 50/50 coin flip.>When you get an SSR, pity counter instantly resets.>Pity doesn't carry over between banners.>Have fun spending up to 400 rolls per patch if you want both characters, and 600 on 3 banner patches.
>>744193840Wasting time is fine, MMOs were mainly just ways to meet and chat with people. And at least the membership business model seeks to make the actual experience more fun to retain players. Gacha is incentivized to make the experience worse, so that you'll pay money to skip it all. Instead they rely habit forming, sunk cost, gambling addictions, and sex appeal.
>>744194160Forgot to mention that another thing that makes them like MMOs: they have insane levels of grind that can lasts money if not years and offer a slow but steady sense of character progression.
>>744194143Except arknights fanbase is incredibly gay as fucking fuck their only edge over unironic hoyofags is being lesser known
>>744190169if good, why can't overthrow FGO
>>744190773Are you retarded
>>744194229he plays gook and/or chink gacha, being retarded is a given
>>744194050Huh? I thought ba was actually popular with all the fan arts and social media posts.
>>744194196>Wasting time is fineTheir bean counters proved it isn't. That's why so many previously subscription based MMOs like RO, Guild Wars, SWTOR, Star Trek Online, etc. all switched to a F2P model.
>>744194160>75% of gacha players only buy the monthly, which is $5Where did you get those statistics from?
>>744194280Nexon literally commissions fanarts and doujins anon.And as it turns out, tourists fapping to the characters doesn't translate to revenue.
>>744190349Cute girls.>>744190773>MillennialGo back.
>>744194280It is, however that doesn't really translate into a lot of money for Nexon (I also assume Yostar takes a large cut of merch sales). Nexon their quarterly reports consistently present that BA isn't a good performing IP to them, especially with it only performing well in Japan which is their smallest profit region by a massive margin.
>>744190349Retards who hate old games and who also refuse to pirate new shit. Also majority of them are actually gamer posers
>>744194340>what does "in total" meanthe smartest gacha hater
>>744190169Nikke is doing just fine though?
>>744194610I'm sorry, your generation came too late. With decades and billions of dollars spent on modern data and marketing research, you've become the ultimate cattle.
>>744190169>good gachakek what a fucking retard
>>744194751I'll explain to you in simpler terms, so even a troglodyte like you could understand. You eat 5 apples every month. How many apples will you eat in 10 months?
>>744194834You still haven't said where you got your data from.
>>744194802Imagine saying this on Nintendoid board
>>744190349>gacha>genre
>>744195126yes
Why are people ITT speaking so confidently about a genre they have never played.You look retarded.
Qrd?
>>744195228I've played 3 gacha games and the gacha aspect was complete ass(I don't have defective gambling addiction genes), and the gameplay was mid. I spent 5 dollars to roll for a cute girl(LIMITED TIME ONLY!!!!)and got nothing.It's shit.
>>744195329>dumb enough to fall for 600% VALUE dealsSmartest gacha hater
>>744190169No such thing as a good gacha.More importantly, it's Nexon. Look at how they handled Maplestory, Mabinogi, Vindictus, DFO, and so on. Greed take over and destroys anything moderately successful.
>>744191535Too many artists depict Rio without her autism and that is unacceptable.
>>744195423Is that why most of those are still alive and doing better than ever.
>>744195513>and doing better than ever.lol
>>744195569>expects 2025 to be abysmal yearWell, was it?
>>744195569>>744195609arc raiders saved nexon
>>744195171Calling gacha a genre is as nonsensical as calling retail a genre.No you retard, gacha describes the way they get paid. Genre is specifically about gameplay. Categories like autobattler, jrpg, tower defense, card game, or botw clone.
>>744195658So that other anon was right about Nexon doing better than ever then?
>>744195396I don't know what a value deal is but it sounds like you're saying the company is malicious to its users and somehow that is okay and you're supporting them for it.
>>744195721not even close, to this day they are still chasing the highs from maplestory's primeif they weren't doing dogshit numbers they wouldn't be butchering the BA golden goose
>>744195721>>744195775
I took a break from the game to focus on a postgrad and I'm finding it really hard to return to the game, doing dailies feels like a chore and any raid past level 70 is the equivalent of crashing my head against a wall for fun.
>>744195775>BA>golden gooseIt wasn't all that big to be honest. The only retard on 4chan that I can think of who thinks it was is the retard that bitches about bikini censorship in BA.
>>744190169>good>gachaban the entirety of south asia and south east asia
Cope gachanigger
>>744195761>go the the grocery store>thank you, sir, that will be $17.99, and your $20. Would you like to get a lottery ticket for your change?OMG GROCERY STORES ARE SO HECKIN' MALICIOUSLife pro-tip, retard. If someone offers you something, you're not obliged to say Yes.
>>744195914good tip. I will definitely say no to gachashit from now on.
>>744195775Maplestory is currently in it's prime btw
>>744190349they are poorfag browns who only own cheap samsung phonesgachashit is the only option available to themjust look at the absolute state of /vmg/ right nowit's been completely hijacked with over 165 off topic "drama generals"and now they're doing the same shit to /v/
>>744190169There are no good gachas you weak willed pornfaggot tranny
The First Descendant on PS4pro is good and impressive. Probably one of the best games on the PS4. Should have stuck with it, I heard they left it behind for 9th gen and PC.Would too have rathered a lower res and more detail. Again for higher framerate. Higher framerate shouldn't mean less motion blur either.Some sections are unpassable solo, but usually people come to the rescue. That needs to be fixed for progression. Or have auto linking people. No wait is good. Bots would be ok. Like if someone is strugglingthey get a bot to help or better players are warped in there. Call it a feature, a reward for being good is you warp into action. at least on old levels.Needs more of a story told by scenery. The dialogue seemed token, spam, but some could decypher it or aggrandise it. Needs some areas you go through somply because they look good, like a city.And ability, though I think it's there, to make the weapons you like the look of function in the way you intend to match your level.Not much of a problem but changing gear during play takes time and takes you out of the action others depend upon.Maybe needs better shooting, it doesn't seemn to have any or much auto aim. And you can get used to it. Might need to be improved somehow though so it's easier to hit things, at least on console.More to do with stuff maybe, like a city area the more you do what is normal the more you are treated as conversational, can talk to npcs and other players there. Need to think a little beyond eating and drinking, but allong those lines, human actions, seeking comfort.More detail to faces. Effects, texture etc. Need to look like people rather than somewhat trope anime related stuff. Like not blank. Not stuff goes in and out. Face is more important than body. Especially up close.More of a reason to shoot, like defence of an area makes it used by npcs, or the hub area is better. Meet better players in hub by upgrading it or something. Some area. At least there high lvl.
If you know what gacha means you're stupid.
>>744196000checked and basedwhen i see the word "gacha", i immediately assume it's for brown horny faggots who play slop on their cheap android phonesand it really makes sense why they continue to shit up every single online spaceit's the same way they treat their own countriescomplete disregard for rules, pure chaos, endless shitflinging
>>744194143Yostar's own Blue Archive with blackjack and hookers is a flop though
>>744192827lmao, japan is already poorer than poland,THAN POLAND
>>744190169Wuwon so fucking hard
>put stinky westoid in charge>instantly ruins the gameinsane
>>744195171>Everything is boring>Literally the same game 4xTis a mystery
>>744198213GTA, Just Cause and Mercenaries are literally the same because it's third person shooter in open world with cars
>>744191214>pay to winthat doesnt even begin to describe it.'member having to open boxes with cash only? 'member not being able to change your name without paying for it?'member RENTING weapons for a day, a week or a month?'member having to pay real cash for a CHANCE to roll for a weapon that you could only use for a period of time before it expired and they took the gun away?
>>744194280BA is a prime secondary bait. Many people buy merch and doujins without ever launching the game.The girls are hot but that's where the positives end.
>>744198319They have actual gameplay
>>744198319Except not, these games specifically parrot each other. It's not even a bold claim, Genshin is singlehandedly responsible for like 6 different titles from different studios.And they ALL play exactly the same.
>>744198658>he thinks Genshin combat is the same as in WuWaHuh? What's that? Some niggerfaggot who doesn't play games has opinions on them? On /v/? Crazy crazy.
>>744198543Don't forget blatant P2W characters and weapons but that's a given because it's a gook MMO. And gear/attachments were rental too. Many people were just playing a different game.After the transfer to VALOFE it finally felt like a fair game for a while and then it started all over again except even worse.
>>744198617>GTAV>gameplay>whoever buys more shark cards - winslollmao, evenNice gameplay, faggot
>>744198741>empty openworld>4 niggas tagteam 3 button "action" combat>mandatory shilling stages each month to convince you to roll for the newest girl (shelf life is less than 2 months before powercreep and switching the shilling method)Yes, they play exactly the same.
>>744190169old news, the new system reduced sparking to 160 which drastically improves rates now. Japan is praising Nexon again
>>744198543I remember not paying for anything because I was a kid without digital creditsplayed a lot of zombie and free for all modes
>>744191535I picked up BA to get more context for the porn only to discover there fucking wasn't any. What a waste of time.
>>744198867Yup, you have zero knowledge on any of those games. Nigger take of a dumb nigger.
>>744198958you're supposed to disprove a claim brownie
>>744198904Exactly. Most of BA is nothingburger unless you're heavily into CGDCT and even then most characters barely get anything worth reading in game
>>744190169>gacha>good
>>744190349>f2p>runs on toasters>gambling is predatory and addictive
>>744198998>makes shit up>puts burden of proof on othersClassic negroid chimpout. Do you want me to give you welfare as well?Dumb fucking nigger
>>744197906>UK that lowGrim
>>744192991play zelda 1 and air fortress then head back to me
>>744199183What did they expect?
>>744199157uh oh melty
>>744199202>zelda 1>push against every tile on the map to find a secret dungeon to progress through the game10/10 game design, would puke again
>>744199157If it's a lie then you can easily disprove itIt's not so you won'tI wish you a merry $10 for your rerolled SSR starter account, pajeet
>>744190351Horizon Walker, now shut the fuck up
>gets told>*angry chimp noises*Sorry, samefags don't deserve welfare (You)'s.
>>744199578if you have a twitter account you love itif you dont, you don't care about it
>>744199404peak uncslop, it forces you to explore and it lasts hours of content
>>744190169god bless nexon
okay so now the devs can work on 3d dfo
>>744194050>astral oratioThat game has no hype, Youtube trailers can't even break 100k views. Worse is that BAfags/Koreans hate the devs so they won't jump ship
>>744200038Early BA was shit
>>744200038Launch GFL2 is still so fucking insane to me. It had literally nothing to it.>Make elemental system reliant on synergies>Release like 10 units>Half of them are only partially elemental>All but two of them are useless garbage>Only content in the game is autoing dailies and event maps>STILL can't marry a launch doll who has STILL yet to appear in the actual story
>>744194340Post source next time nigger, so that people could make fun of youhttps://www.mdpi.com/2078-2489/14/7/399>A total of 713 participants took part in the study. > 3.5.3. Procedure>The survey was created via “Google Forms” because of easy data collection and processing. The participants of the survey voluntarily responded to it. The survey was published on 4 subreddit pages at reddit.com: r/Granblue_en, r/grandorder, r/arknights, and r/girlsfrontline (accessed on 12 July 2023). Only members of these subreddits were examined
>>744198904No dude, you gotta know that the Gourmet Club loves food and do le wacky things for it. The Hot Springs club drills holes everywhere. IN EVERY FUCKING EVENT
>>744200373Gacha players are all redditors. What's the issue?
>>744194160>why do 4chan users like to talk about things they know nothing about?First day here?
>>744199183Not to defend the deplorable state of the UK but those stats are always garbage because mixed in with average folks like you and me are the billionaire oligarchs whose individual spending money is more than most entire populations combined.The US disposable income is inflated because most of the world's wealthiest have US citizenship for business/epstein reasons. Luxemborg is ultra high because it's a tax haven where billionaires hide assets in shady banks that'll move it under the radar to fund white collar crime or child sex islands.
>>744200038I dropped zenless a year ago and wasnt on launchHow is it shit now?
>>744190169Uma Musume is alive and well though.
>>744190169>having standards for gacha slop
>>744200864Sounds exactly like ZZZ as a whole after 1.2
>>744200864>>character designs becoming more and more generic hoyoslop"More and more" is actually putting it generously, it has gone full HSR dogshit. I seriously cannot tell the difference anymore.
>>744191535>Not like you miss out on characterization on fan made contentOh yes you fucking do
>>744190169Reminder it is the same company did this
>>744193325he's right though. mashing in mgr will get your ass handed to you. you'd know this if you actually played the damn thing
>>744190465The only thing I remember about that game is the pay to win operators and doing that exploit where you unplug your ethernet, kill everyone, then plug it back in.
>>744190169>good gachaLOLLMAO
>>744190169Shareholders have a say too, indirectly in the future of any game owned by Nexon and they've spoken with the action of dumping the stock since January, likely hinting that Nexon needs to make more money going forward. Nexon listened and took action. It's up 9.22% since the news dropped on Sunday in Korea so the shareholders appear to like the news.
>>744201860>make billions with a b by dragging your playerbases through endless gacha skinner boxes>get fined 9 whole million dollarsOh no!
>>744192646>Modern English dubs are better than sub anywayezt a gyökeret gec
>>744190351holodori
>>744191535>fan made contentOk retard.
Give me $10 million and a team and I'll make the first ever good gameplay gacha
>>744203834What a genuine piece of shit, with someone like that onboard the game deserves to fail now
>change gacha system that helps players actually roll what they want more consustently, thus saving them costs.>players get enragedI think this whole discourse is retarded and lead mostly by sheep mentality. I don't get how gacha players can be this stupid, yet it doesnt surprise me either
>>744204104I don’t play this game but from what I’m understanding, in this new system you can theoretically get fucked over by repeatedly rolling the same character before pity when you want two different characters?
>>744204468It's better only if you're rolling one girl each event and it's a solo banner.And Blue Archive almost always does simultaneous and/or multi-banners.The whole point of a Fes is giving a massive rate-up and encouraging to go to a full spark.The new system screws over that firmly established tradition.It also crashes the upgrade currency income, which comes from dupes.
>>744190169Aren't gachas supposed to hook people with gambling? Why are they all adopting the hoyo 50/50 and pity system that suck all the fun out of the gambling?
>retards mad that the dildo they willingly put up in their asses increased slightly in diameterYou faggots deserve it. And after all this blows over you will still be the good little goy paypiggies you once were.
Nexon's greed has been running their games into the ground for years. You should have seen this coming
>>744201969how could you forget about the greatest feature?
>>744192990maybe devs shouldn't turn mmos into theme parks
>>744204468>Announce a big change to the way the gacha mechanics work in your gacha game >Literally 4 days before the updates hits the player base>And barely giving any details until the last dayThis shitshow is entirely their faultMore than a few retards in these companies should feel their job security threatened to make sure they don't do stupid shit again
>>744203834muh aporogies
>>744190351SPBP
>>744204468there is nothing wrong with the old system. if they want to help players just increase the fucking rates
Maybe this would finally make Comiket worth attending again.But who am I kidding, the next gacha or vtuber fotm would just take its place.
>>744205203funnily enough all the themepark mmos are dropping off hard and the more traditional sandbox mmos are thriving.
>>744205218Seia was right all this time.
>>744205408>are thrivingReally now?
>>744204719>in this new system you can theoretically get fucked over by repeatedly rolling the same character before pity when you want two different characters?tl;dr yeshere's a very recent series of banners on an anniversaryOn the previous system you could just freely jump between the banners as long as they're up. You got one in 100 and one in 180 then you just pull 20 more to reach 200 and you get the spark on the third one.On the new system you get a coinflip at 100 and a guarantee at 200(or 160 I don't remember), but after getting the rate-up you have to start all over again.Yes, mathematically it's better on a single banner, but BA rarely does single banners. And "coincidentally" constantly releases at least 2 or even 3 super-meta characters every 3 months.
remember to not swap to another gacha after this if they don't reverse the changebe free from the gambling
>>744205391Not even the vtuber doujins are that hot
>>744205391vtrannies will just take over
>>744205218>More than a few retards in these companies should feel their job security threatenedYou do know this shit comes from the CEO and the board right?You do know BA is one in a dozen IPs they manage right?These people WILL get their golden parachute one way or another.The producer everyone's mad of? Literally thrown under the bus. He probably never had a say in the matter, either he was ordered to push the change or ignored alltogether.
>>744190169They killed umamusume?
>>744205610>200 or 160 I don't remember>image shows banners from different datesAre you people even trying?
>they are not backing downNow what?
>>744190169>the only good gachaThat's not Genshin tho
>>744206019what do you not understand? 2 + 3 simultaneous banners, the most recent one even had 2 + 4, good luck luckshitting all 6 on the new system
>>744193763Shattered Galaxy was so kino
>>744206152heh
Alright, little Timmy, dry your bitch tears and tell Uncle /v/ what happened. >In before gaming has fallen, millions must perish.
Blue ACKike
>>744190169but nexon has absolutely nothing to do with battle network 2?
>>744199130>>744190349this, is just pouring dopamine on the rats brain
>>744206148I understand that you don't even play the game. Blue Archive never allowed players to stockpile recruitment points, once the banner period ended they reset back to zero
>>744205610How did players keep up with back to back banners?
>>744206310no one is saying anything about recruitment points stockpiling you fucking retard, congrats on your superb reading comprehension skills
>never mentions white gamessus
>>744206395swipe or cope
>they copy hoyo!!!>doesnt even get roll count carry over
Just play AION2. I am sure it won't be a scam, am I right?
>>744206395Same way as always.
>>744206194yes, and those niggers at Nexon are holding the IP hostage
>>744190169Dont like it, dont play it
>>744190351Except for Battle Cats
>>744204468>thus saving them costsI'd say the stupid one is you for thinking any change isn't something new to suck out money from players.
>>744206403>posts image with banners from different time periods>claims that you can no longer spark a student after getting another with leftover pointsYou don't even know how the system worked, those leftovers points never existed because Recruitment Points always reset when banners expire. In the image you posted rolling for sSeia and sMika at the same time was impossible because their banners are from different dates
>>744206875quote that motherfucker i dare youyou can't
>>744191535Do you think this shit it's like touhou??
>>744193042The story sucks and its only good for porn anyway.
>free 50/50 at 100>new spark at 160Funny how mathematically illiterate everyone is. The new system post chimpout is better than the previous one for everyone except giga whales and new players (anyone who rolls for three or more students per banner). So as long as we keep getting two students per event it's better, and much better when rolling for only one of those students
>>744206738Battle Cats is too pure to be mentioned in the same breath as other gacha
>>744207550It's not better in a game that constantly releases double banners retardbro. This is an instance where "the math being better" is flat out wrong if you look at the bigger picture and how the game is structured.
>>744207550>get the character at 150>spark deleted>have to go another 160 now to get the next character instead of just hitting 200 and buying themnice system retard
>>744207929It's also better for two banners, do the math retard
>>744207550If it screws over even one group it's not worth it.Don't screw over your biggest customers and also your potential customers.
>>744208172>having to spend 400 for two characters>betterIt's funny to see actual brainlets like you bootlicking for fucking Nexon of all companies.
when classic maple comes out, you know nexon is gonna put current p2w shit in the cash shop somehow
>>744208172>actually just made up numbers since it doesn't match the new system at allkek
>>744208263It's a smart business decision because whales paypigged so much that the sunk cost fallacy makes them unlikely to quit, everyone else gets a better system
>>744195513>doing better than ever.mabinogi's director last month had to do a public apology during the anniversary event and now they are performing a major monetary compensation with how horribly they've handled that game in the last year
>>744208296>>744208372>doesn't understand cumulative probability>doesn't understand averages>b-b-but what about this edge case???
>>744208583Mabinogi has always been that niche IP that Nexon just keeps around for fun. Mabinogi and Vindictus haven't been relevant in profit to Nexon for over a decade but Mabinogi Mobile randomly was a surprise hit when it came out. The fact that Mabi Mobile exists at all already makes Mabinogi currently more successful than it has ever been even with the recent mess ups.
>>744204742I do agree that it screws over tradition and does seem good on paper being able to just select the featured pull after 200. But people have ran statistics and found that you get more with fewer pulls in this new system. And that includes acquiring the featured students on both paralell banners. I am not a fan of just taking the houoslop route either, though, but the outrage feels very much to me like peiple being mad because they see others being mad but care not to understand exactly why.
>>744190169Based Ex EA executive killing the game baggots loved. Same EA exec that told people should pay to reload their guns.Seia posters finally got what's coming to them with them spamming EOS
>>744190169the best gacha is alive and well thoughbeit?
>>744208852The math was shit and not in favor of the new system until they announced free 10-pulls after certain milestones and lowering the sparkIt wasn't there for no reasonAnd it's still objectively worse if you pull multiple girlsAnd guess what? Almost every girl is a must-pull now
>>744208858that is not the same guy at all, people really are just making shit up without fact checking these days
>>744208852You're gonna grow to hate that 50/50 real quick. People hating on this hate it from experience. I don't care what the numbers or statistics say, there is shit running under the hood that keeps the odds in the house's favor, and it will keep being that way until they're caught.
>>744209101>And it's still objectively worse if you pull multiple girlsOnly for 3+. For 1 or 2 it's objectively better in every metric (but only with these added free pulls, it was worse in some ways before).
>>744209175Im pretty sure people hate it more cuz its just a hoyo standard. It's not a bad system per'se but it is very bland and flat. As for the houses favor thing, nah man, if that was I am sure someone could sue them for that already. Rules about being upfront and techincally truthful are very strict with gacha rates. I dont play a ton but I played BA likely before anyone here in this thread played, or at least most. Not that it says much but with it I can bring up that in the earliest iterrations the pity was 300 and eventually was changed to 200. Not trying to compare it to the change now but it was defintely bot some way to tilt things in the houses favor.
>>744208842>Mabinogi has always been that niche IP that Nexon just keeps around for fun.Mabinogi for a long time in Korea was really huge and was one of Nexon's mainstays. They would have massive stadium conventions three or four times a year. Now it has been reduced down to two.>Mabinogi Mobile randomlyDevCAT wanted to separate itself from Nexon and became independent or semi-independent like Neople. That's why they went with a Mobile version of Mabinogi as their flagship because they knew it would print money, but at the same time, the expense to make their flagship ended up forcing them to fold right back into Nexon as an in-house dev kek.
>>744190169They didn't kill nikke though
>>744209490This is the same company that got caught setting the rate to 0% in Maplestory.
>>744209242The worst part is that all these low IQ seaniggers and spics chimping out might end up pushing them to revert the changes, and they'd be retarded enough to celebrate it even though they are f2p and benefit the most from the new system
>>744190773>good writing
>>744193096Not even close. as someone who played zzz, kill yourself
>>744209694Well alright, maybe they will I dunno. We will just have to see if the odds really are as they say after update. Not trynna defend nexon though. I just dont see the change as bad as others. I think the real slurpers are those that wanna sabotage that new witch gacha, but thats another topic.
>>744209490I think the ramping soft pity plays a big part in people's negative opinions of hoyo's gacha system and luckily BA isn't implementing that part of it.
>>744194221This but unironically>>744196463I unironically don't care about Yostar, i only care about Hypergryph decisions. If Yostar shits the bed i'm switching to my chinese AK account.
>>744190169lol lmao even
>>744191535this, the characters have no personality anyways they're flanderized products and the story is dogshit
>>744211289is that vidya butts?
>>744211169HG is also shitting the bed with Endfield. Luckily AK is still good but how long will this last...
>>744211545I'm playing both and i like both games. If EF fails, it fails. I'm not gonna un-enjoy the game because of that (or maybe i'm too hopepilled for my own good)
>>744211517yes
>>744211545>Luckily AK is still goodThey turned powercreep up to 11 and release one broken character after another to compensate for flopfield. 2026 characters being able to solo older content that a whole team of 12 characters struggled with is one thing, but they literally can solo "challenge" mode of their own events now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_tFYoNGPoc
I have a great idea, why not replace the gacha system with literally anything? Just let people buy their jpgs/3d models directly
>>744212173>just make less moneythis change was to make more money>>744211716child
>>744212173No, start pulling for new characters NOW
>>744212173ZZZ could've been the game of the century as a traditional paid action game with combat not tailored around phones. But most gacha games have too many fucking characters and there would be no way to enjoy them without a shitton of DLCs or just doing the free rotation system.
>>744211714I wish I could cope about Endfield but I just can't. I've given it way more chances than it deserves and I just can't get myself to like it despite how much I like HG their previous games. It just doesn't feel like the same studio made Endfield, all their other games are unique takes on existing genres that try to actually do something new with their ideas, yet with Endfield I just see a poor attempt at copying a bunch of other games but worse
>>744212173This kills the gambling aspect and it makes too much money to get rid of it.
tag yourself
>>744212627I probably don't feel that fatigue because i only play AK and AK:EF as gacha games and i don't really like that muche the live service 3D game genre. The closest game i play besides AK:EF is FFXIV when they release big patches. I don't agree with you but i understand from where your comment comes from.
>>744212173The gacha market is oversaturated to the point where some devs remove gacha from their game late into development. That warframe clone gacha did it, Dragonsword Awakening just done that, Ananta supposedly switched to cosmetics-only gacha.
>>744214139He basically said he's reviewing nexons entire portfolio of games and restructuring funding based on what projects are actually worth investing more into and which ones deserve to get cut. It unironically looks like BA is on the chopping board.https://www.nexon.co.jp/uploads/CMB%202026%20Deck_EN_for%20Upload_v2.pdf
Why do companies keep going public and appointing a CEO that guts them from within
Imagine going public and having to bow to the whims of shareholders, couldn’t be me
>>744215440Limbusbro...What happened last stream?
>>744215493Id rather deal with 1 man’s insanity and retardation
Maplestory killed itself? But I didnt even get to play classicRip to the only gacha game id ever touchYou unironic gachafags belong on reddit with fellow gambling addicted smooth brained "gamers" Bet you watch vtubers and asmr too, low IQs eatin good huh
>>744212570ZZZ could have been an amazing character action single player, fuck gacha and fuck mobiles
>>744216181you know you can just go play relink right
>>744212173Brave Frontier 2 did this already and it was absolutely horrible. Turns out that not only do you get less money this way, but you also have to powercreep to the absolute max just so to give a player a reason to buy the newest units. Brave Frontier was already powercreep central, but 2 took the 3-4 years of powercreep history of the original game and did it 6 months. It was insane and it died before it could even reach its 1st anniversary.
so to what gacha are we switching now?
>>744217682None
>>744212849where male
>>744218872no one likes faggots
>>744215960>maplestory player unironically thinks he is above anythingThat shit was boring and lame when it was brand new
>>744211517No. This is vidya sex.
>>744219163where male >>744211289
>>744212173duet night abyss did it and it turned into a korean grinding sim with montization so bad even reddit hates it
So, when is the ceo getting removed?
>>744221098nexon is literally seeing record high revenue numbers, he's unironically saving the company
>>744221098As soon as the shareholders will see a profit drop and actually he's making the line go up so not anytime soon.
>>744195513yep>>744195816>>744195975
>>744206254Reminded me that there was a BN gacha rumored when xdive was first being hinted at Every day I'm glad it never happened
Years ago I told the gookshills to not get too attached to BA because it was by nexon and a rugpull like this was inevitable.Then years passed and for a while I thought I was wrong because it was basically the only time nexon didn't do a nexon, maybe they finally learnt their lesson to not gut the golden goose.Then they did a nexon anyway lmfao.
>>744221098kim came out and defended the change so not happening kek
>>744222584Welp BA had a good run.
>>744222536they needed an EA fag to do the Nexon so it kinda counts but kinda doesn't.Still hilarious.
So is it too late to start playing blue archive now?
>>744190773>I need sexy bitches in my game SO MUCH i'm willing to play this absolute dogshit genreHow do you even reach this point
>>744190773>good writingIt's literally just a dgoshit gook writer taking bits and pieces of his favorite anime and VNs and doing it worse. It's the equivalent to a bollywood movie copying a hollywood movie.
>>744190169BA community is fighting back pretty hard and are being joined by other gaming communities as well. Spenders were holding back spending and others are raising hell on different platforms like Discord.Even if you don't like gacha games, this might be a good chance to figuratively slap an ex-EA executive. Remember what they stole from us and never forgive nor forget.
>>744211939>but they literally can solo "challenge" mode of their own events now.Not saying much when those events have been piss easy, that chink press stamps one basically cleared itself.The game also already reached a solo hard cap of powercreep, it's impossible to beat something used to rape the entire map on a short cooldown when there's already like 5 characters that can do that.
>>744222839You can play the youtube port for free.Spoilers: It's poorly written dogshit that makes even the most generic and bland isekai look like a masterpiece.It legitimately feels AI generated at times, which is very impressive mind you when AIslop wasn't a thing when it released..
>>744195695All gachas nowadays are genshin clones. So you can think as the "gacha genre" as f2p open world collectathon with character switching, mob juggling gameplay, and elemental rock paper scissor.Yeah, saying gacha is shorter.
>>744198794>caring about gtaozoomer
>>744223150Name 5 open world gachas CURRENTLY playable
>>744190169>>
>I fucking hate gacha games>proceeds to spend entire free time entering gacha threads to bitch about gachaExplain
>>744223337same reason /a/ spent years shitting on every naruto threads that popped upsame reason /v/ spent years shitting on every cod/halo threads that popped upit's called gatekeeping
>>744212570ZZZ could have been a GENUINELY GREAT game if it wasnt a fucking gacha, or if they didnt fuck it up with 2.X, now its just gooner HSR designsfest with only a few interesting new characters that barely holds a candle to 1.X and some 2.X characters (norma is currently the only fucking good 3.X character, rest is just HSR sloppery designwise)fuck honkairoids man...
>>744223229WuwaGenshinDragon blade1 licensed IP oneMongil
>>744223337some retards are convinced gacha is whats singlehandedly ruining /v/
>>744223506Dragons sword isn't a gacha. Kneel
>>744223506WuWaEndfieldNTEtechnically Xenoblade 2 since it features a Gacha SystemGenshin
>>744223595Replace that with NTE
>>744222912EA was a good company like 35 years ago
Do people not care that the new system is better now that they're gifting 10 pull tickets when rolling?
>>744224156How exactly does the newer post-backlash implementation work? I've seen some people mention they changed the hard pity thresholds and added some kind of a refund mechanic after rolling.
>>744190169MapleStory is still online?
>>744224883The thresholds are the same but every 10 rolls the game gifts you stuff like eleph, mats and 10 pull tickets. For example before hitting 200 rolls we get 4 tenners so sparking would cost 160 rolls worth of currency. Basically the newest system is always better under 400 rolls, unlike the older new system which had worse rates in certain ranges.
>>744225812Yep, classic on the way too.
>>744225886Where did you get this info? I saw nothing about free shit every x rolls, just a guaranteed SSR with 50/50 of it being the featured student every 100 rolls, nothing about free 10 pull tickets
Based on the actual numbers, seems like the new system will be better on average. The issue was the poor communication from Nexon with a really bad timing. Once the system is implemented, people will stop parroting all their retarded opinions.>b-but what if I get my pull at 190 rollsThis is literally a subhuman case to present and if I you can't tell why then commit rope, only brownoids are parroting this for a reason.
>>744227282If it can theoretically happen, it will happen to someone, maybe even you. "Averages" don't matter.
https://x.com/ysoya/status/2082093582945779906We're sorry.
>>744200478>because mixed in with average folks like you and me are the billionaire oligarchs whose individual spending money is more than most entire populations combined.That's the median disposable income, not the average, the average is higher because as you said, billionaires inflate the numbersIn other words, cope europoor
>>744227282yes, i'm sure that a business designed with the sole goal of making money, spent all their time and effort to make a new gacha system that's more generous to players, and makes them less money. you are very intelligent and i'm roping right now for not realizing such a genius take
>>744227280https://bluearchive.jp/news/newsJump/679
>>744227876Actually I know the new system is better because I'm not mathematically illiterate, I'm sorry you are too brown to understand probabilities
>>744227282all nexon has to do to make the new system better than the other one hands down is not have it reset your pity if you roll a banner character. but then the new system would make them less money which defeats the purpose of changing it.
>>74421217399% of players want the experience of becoming a woman in gacha
>>744190169qrd?
>>744217682none, still in love with BA
>>744228721Nexon hired an ex-EA exec (the one behind Battlefield 5's "if you don't like it then don't buy it) and the first decision is to change the gacha system to a weirder version of Mihoyo's 50/50. The math implies that probabilities are on average better when pulling for just a single character but worse when there's more than one up and BA regularly does like 3 or 4 banners at the same time. The change was met with huge backlash from all playerbases.
When Mabinogi came out in the west; it was like the messiah of F2P MMO's. I was obsessed with it for months. It was probably the longest I had spent playing a F2P MMO next to Runescape at that point. I just thought it was incredible how much stuff you could do in Mabanogi, even playing instrumental versions of anime songs or anything honestly on the instruments in the game. I think you had to use some program to convert it and put it into the game, but it was fun when it worked. I'd play songs in the town square; some would recognize it. Hell, you could even do mundane shit like being a farmer, cooking, building shit, etc. All the different combat styles and classes were great, like just the way each one played. I personally really liked the combat style. Vindictus was really fun as well. I just doubt we'll ever see games like that game.
>>744217682 GFL2
>>744228861>The math implies that probabilities are on average better when pulling for just a single character but worse when there's more than oneThat was the old system, the new one with gifts is better when pulling two banners and BA never releases more than two at the same time
>>744228926soonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLT_zb8tG1s
>>744229251>and BA never releases more than two at the same timeReruns count.
>>744229403>Mobile>Will most likely be riddled with gacha mechanics and a cash shop. Instantly dropped. I don't play mobile games. I don't like mobile games. They aren't nearly as fun compared to playing on a full PC set-up.
>>744227880What I understand from this.Sparking>Removed, with the exception of archive gacha that retains the old systemNew pity system>Getting the banner student resets pity. Getting a featured student from a different banner that's featured at the same time doesn't reset pity.>Roll 100: Guaranteed 3-star student. 50/50 chance of getting the banner student.>Roll 200: 100% chance of getting the banner student.>Pity count A: All non-limited banner students, both new and old. This count DOESN'T reset on banner change and instead carries over to future banners until you get a featured non-limited banner student.>Pity count B: All limited banner students, including anni units, encore, limited dash. This count DOES reset on banner change akin to the old spark system.Roll rewards>A new roll reward system that is counted separately from pity. >Both non-limited and limited banner rolls are counted. Archive gacha is not.>You get an extra 10-roll ticket at 70, 130, 150, 170, 270, 330, 350 and 370 rolls. Other rewards are materials and shit. >This count DOES reset on banner change.
redpill me on nexon.
>>744229420>Reruns countThey only count for new players, also Rio and Himari aren't even from the same event
>>744229560Nexon, mostly known for their late 2000s/early 2010s MMOs, is the company who was caught lying about their rates in the past. Not in Blue Archive but still. They also had to lower the spark from 300 to 200 due to initial backlash, this time actually in Blue Archive.If you've heard of Combat Arms, a lobby-based MMOFPS, then the game was peak greed - you had to RENT weapons, gear, attachments, fucking everything, players could get both free and premium lootboxes but you had to buy keys to the premium ones separately. Oh right, and then there were premium weapons and characters, blatantly P2W, and the only way to get weapons without a rental period (which IIRC was up tp a few months) was paying up.Commonly known as the korean jews.>>744229667Why do you hate new players then?
>>744190465I pray to god they can do a "combat arms" classic
>>744190169Maplestory Classic is going to save this company
>>744229805They did. But it's not what you'd like.
>>744229759The spark was always at 200>Why do you hate new players then?Because this only applies to blufes (2x drop rate event), other events usually only have one good student, rarely two
>>744229667>They only count for new players,well, Ba doesn't have to worry about getting those anymore
>>744210973>the ramping soft pity plays a big part in people's negative opinions of hoyo's gacha systemHow is soft pity possibly a bad thing? And of course BA isn't implementing it because instead of triggering the 50/50 and guarantee when you get a 3*, it's instead set to a concrete pull count.
>>744208667Blue archive fags are the same faggots who watch asmongoy, they're natural retards.
>>744230002>>744229960Once again the time old advice rings true.>Never start a gacha past week 1>Never pick up a gacha you've droped.You will never catch up.
>>744190349It's the last place with cute waifus. I personally hate Blue Archive. It should be called Blue Balls. I don't see the point of forcing all romances to be platonic and forbidden. Never understood the point of that. Princess Connect didn't made that mistake. That was real romance.
>>744206738Battle cats is made worse by ita gacha mechanic. It would be a better game without that shit and so, I do not play it anymore
>>744193840>.00001Lying faggot, leaping lizzies boots werent that bad and you could EASILY just farm IN GAME to get them faster than dealing with ff11s mentallh ill populace.Now PSO had insane drop rates but you could play the game just fine without a perfect hit tjs
>>744195849I need to take a break from all this garbage and focus on the third year of my undergrad. All this grinding for not a whole lot of fun.It's funny, I quit FFXIV after the first year of ARR when I realised how shit doing skill rotations is, where everything is basically the same, just with different damage areas on the floor, and different amounts of time you'll get to spam skill rotations. Gacha is even more tedious, but tits in your face suddenly makes it seem like there's some payoff when there isn't.
>>744229960>The spark was always at 200No it wasn't.https://x.com/Blue_ArchiveJP/status/1385503969502392324
>>744193840>games like RO and FF11>oldfagNewfag, stop the LARP.
>>744229549>Getting a featured student from a different banner that's featured at the same time doesn't reset pity.Still doesn't give you the extra 100 eleph, so it's as disasterous as it is now.And no, limited pull count does not reset between banners.
>>744230578>300 rolls for Midorilmao
>>744230578>2021
>>744230921Different times.>>744231016Time flies, there are witnesses. Just because you weren't playing back then doesn't mean it's not a documented happening.
>>744230904>And no, limited pull count does not reset between banners.Oh right, my brain did an oopsie since 「限定・呼び出しチャージ」 wasn't explicitly specified in the reset rules.
>>744231215every single gacha is having some kind of drama as of late to be fair
>>744228926I'm with ya there anon, Mabinogi was the black sheep among all of my online friends so no one ever wanted to play it or give it a try, but goddamn did it offer the most freedom to do whatever the hell you wanted with near infinite grindBest part was you were rewarded for branching out because of the stat gains through ranking skillsOf course it had numerous problems back in the day, like Generations/Transformations and weekly rebirths being locked behind the VIP serviceAnd of course a Nexon gacha that seemingly got worse and worse as time went on, followed by ReforgesI tried to play again last year just to check stuff out and the game hit me with fucking information overload about several new systems which honestly made me feel like I was playing a mobile game at the rate I was being assaulted by constant popupsA shame, but I have high hopes that maybe Mabinogi Eternity will be a soft-reboot, or at least have a new/Classic server>>744229403I like the style of Mobile, but I dread what it will actually be likeI'll still probably give it a fair shot at least
>>744230578Good thing global started with the spark already at 200. I distinctly remember lucksacking Midori in a single tenner and thankfully getting Momoi as well. It was really fun until i went for Azoos and got taxed by having to spark her without a single 3* in 200 rolls, that was a sobering expirience.
>>744231215everyday I thank God that I'm not Korean and can enjoy actual porn for free.
>nexon releases collab where the caharacters whore themselves over to mahjong soul and BA players get nothing>the lines in the collab were literally addressed to jyanshi>ask in discord about how this is appropriate>gets permabanned>in the WOWS collab, they 180ed and calls the player "sensei" insteadThey 100% knew that they've made retarded business decisions, but they will not back away. Between the streamer drama, project KV, and now the rates, this game's dev team have been wacko since 2024. None of you faggots listened, and here we are.
>>744230095I started BA years late and have caught up just fine. I have a large roster that includes all Fes students released so far and all my faves + alts, can do Torment raids and some f100s, have a pyro, mat and eligma stash and have never dropped a cent on the game. Maybe I was luckier than average but I've had my share of sparks along the way. BA is fairly generous game and not that hard to catch up at all, with the biggest limited being reruns of key students, but even that is no longer such a huge concern with all the sidegrades. Now the question is if ot will remain so or if these fuckheads will ruin the game.
>>744232551Yup here we are The game still alive and you repeating the same things from 2 years agoAlso>DiscordGo back
>>744233107Enjoy your mihoyo drop rate, cum slurping faggot. RMAO!
>>744233169Noticed how nowhere in my post I defended thatTruly mindbroken
I just want to play my comfy game in which my cute chibi students, why can't these faggot corpos just let things be
>if you roll 400 times you get back 70 rolls!!!>the roll count reset every bannerlol
>>744190169Classic World is coming soon! Im so fucking excited!!!!
So, the new roll system is better if you're lucky and worse if you're forced to spark every time? Sounds like you fags need to improve your luck stat NOW!
>>744206738this, honestly the only good "gacha" if you can even call it that with how many free gibs you get. you are bound to get three good ubers in the span of 3 hoursfuck cosmos though, worst part of the game
>>744236006 If you're forced to spark every time then the new one is better too because of the free tickets
>>744190349i'm just amazed that blue archive can run on toasters meanwhile ziggers have to see pc parts cost a rent payment
>>744190773kinda, but you're glossing over anything in dlsite or f95. If anything content discover is too much for you
>>744190169Good thing Granblue already transcend the gacha rat race.
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>>744194050>astral oratiolooks like a BA wannabe
>>744190351BASED, paypigs seethe from hearing the truth
Pay up faggot piggie, oink oink!
>BA in it's last desperate attempt collabs with AL>In AL you can actually marry and the gacha is free>thousands of baggots melty over shitcan plapping prime shiroko pussy>AL actually leeches playerbase from BATick tock BAGgots!
>>744190169>good gachaOxymoron>OPRegular moron
>>744194050>BA is dying guys, you have to believe me, look at my chart!>meanwhile game doing just fine, keeps getting investment and just last month they were putting up billboards for chink summerWhy do you kike fags insist on claiming BA is dead or dying? Same shit in interviews, always "uhhhh is the game losing players? Is the game dying Kim? It is isn't it?" And every time you need to be told to fuck off. But go ahead, spend another 5 years screaming that BA is dead lmao.
>>744201607It easily gets blown the fuck out by fan-made depictions. The characters aren't that deep in the first place save for a few>>744207104More or less
>>744241376That amount of shilling costs money anon
>>744206738>>744236289>the entire existence of seed tracking>no gacha/4*>free units like Awakened Bahamut, Courier, Rock or SlimeThere's a couple of caveat to it being called a 'gacha'
>>744241376least delusional seapag gacha defender
>>744241376>this assblastedI hope John nexon is paying you
>>744241969>>744242257>>744242374>instant assblasted (you)s Kike or yuritrash that got gatekept, call it
>>744190169>been waiting years for maplestory classic>beta test ended recently, surely it'll be out soon>last week: "announcing beta test 2!!"yeah they're retarded
>>744190169i'm back from work what did i missed?
>>7441901691. No gacha game is "good"; some of them are so bad that aren't even considered games.2. At least 5 to 10 gacha games disappear from existence every month, but the market is so saturated with that shit that nobody cares.So resuming, fuck you.
>>744223595You're also forgettingzzzsnowbreakproject mugenendfieldseven deadly sinswang yuerewinding cadenceproject sun
This whole event has made me happy to be good at math. It was fun proving even the other "mathfags" wrong when they said stupid shit like "the new system has more variance" or "it's only better when you roll for 1 student" with actual numbers showing exactly how retarded they are. It seems like less than 1% of the population can actually do math properly.
>>744205541FFXI has been growing so much they had to lock three servers for character creation
cant wait to see the shitshow after jp maintenance
>>744223517They're not the only thing, but microtransactions are garbage and should always be made fun of.
Only eastern Gacha communities are sort of interesting and talented so that counts out /v/irginsThe 'international' community is mainly a hodgepodge of western troons and sea/latinx children, all of whom are broke
>>744245034>all of whom are brokeits even worse, they don't even contribute. They don't draw fanart or make art, just consume and socialize about it
>>744245357I think a lot of it has to do with education levels, at least in terms of literature and culture as well
>>744243710zzz and snowbreak are not open world, what the fuck are you talking about
>>744239943That would be far too based, comrade botefucker.
>>744243580snowbreak eos
Neru Marrimony
HOLY FUARK!!!! A FREE 300 GEM GIFT!!!!!!https://x.com/en_bluearchive/status/2082330276638679451?s=46&t=088ymdEC0KOteP65RGpHRg
>>744191535>>744211492You never even read the story in the first place, tranny, now sit down.
>Playing BAwdym play BA its just a source of porn to me
>>744235852>Classic World??
>>744239943That's hot
>>744192990Mmo companies and fans killed mmos not gachas.
>>744190169the amount of mexicans and seamonkeys in this site is disturbing
i know this is the shitflinging rage thread but ive been doing well as a F2P metafag for a long while now but these upcoming banners are looking rough on my pyro outlook. im wondering if im gonna have to drop rolling for Erika but i hear shes mandatory for crab
>>744190169gambling paypigs deserve to be raped to death, rare good thing nexon does
>>744247385>in this sitelol
>>744247019Ohh.. OHHHH! OHHH YEEEEAAAA
>>744245357it really is odd the disparity between doujin culture in the east and west, anyone even slightly talented just gravitates towards whatever copy paste fotm head onto same body pinup porn is most profitable for their patreon account. no real dedication to a community or forming a doujin circle type culture in it.
>>744190169CZN is still alive though?
>>744190169Anyone who gives gook EA money deserves everything they get
>Elsword is 18 years and countingBASED NEXON KR killing BA for more Rena tits
Nexon also handling Promilia KR server, yea?
>>744191607yeah, that's what gacha games do lmaooooo
>>744193042playing gacha just to understand the context of the shit you masturbate to is not something to be proud of
>>744190169I still have my gbf nexon can burn in hell
>>744190349>free and low specDo you really have to ask? The games industry did this to itself by increasingly making entry into the hobby more expensive every year
>>744247385que?
>>744190349zoomoids are addicted to gambling. It's so sad to see
>>744194229 He did say he was a millennial
>>744246593Surely this will be enough to appease the players.
>>744190349The official data is until 2018, but the stimate is not that far offI'm a 28yo virgin btw
>>744249412>I still have pozzed and fag shitLOL
>>744190773lol you really rattled the self proclaimed gaming crusaders (they are all brown) who continue to gobble shit up like nugaylo
>>744250080It's not that bad, the current estimate is at about 20%That's virgins tho, not people who are sexually active. When we talk about people who are sexually active, I think the percentage is at around 40% (or, 60% aren't active)
>>744190773>"It's the last medium that didn't go gay">see inside>full of faggots
>>744230751Anon, both of those games are old enough to legally rent a van.Hell, both games are older than 80% of /v/.The only reason I didn't use something older like EQ is because I couldn't remember if it was also 12 a month or 10. At no point were they "$5 per month for membership".
>>744190773No such thing as good writing in gachas but there is also no such thing as good writing in games in general, especially the past decade. The problem with the sexy girls is that 99% of gachas rely on the sexy girls to do the heavy lifting and forget to make a satisfying gameplay loop only to end up with boring dailies that you do for a measly amount of pull currency. Gameplay should come first, then you can have the sexy women. That's why another one of Nexon's game (the first descendant) is as good as dead already (and also because the brown people who would play it for the waifus can't properly run an unreal engine 5 game).
>>744193605>you faggots never read actual visual novel without gacha trashdead medium, you're smug now but you will run out of VNs eventually
>>744207104Astroturfed gachaslop gets replaced over the years for a new flavor of slop. 2hu can recline every year but it will live forever.
>>744251872Ironically enough, alicesoft itself has outlived 90% of the FOTM gacha at this point, 91% counting BA.
>>744253418Can you really call current day alicesoft alive tho? The moment the old men retired, they stopped making any real games altogether and switched to making gachas.
Whatever happened to Azur Lane?
>>744254568They are making genshin clone #20156: palworld-flavored edition.
>>744254568Nothing? We even had a Nier collab with 20 hours remaining and another princess maker minigame in the making?
>>744193291>You literally can't button mash your way through this when it's parryslop lol.What are you talking about kek. Just button mash towards the enemy to 100% parry them.
BA is actually a titcow hag game rather than a loli one, so it lost my support very early on.
