ITT: Post the worst entry in a series
>>744195919Prime 4
>>744195993This is like saying the worst GTA game is online. Wait...
limbus company
>>744195919Skyward Sword (3D)Phantom Hourglass (2D)
>>744195919
>>744195919I was going to say it's actually Master of Disguise but apparently that doesn't count as a Land game
>>744199030true. i think the encounter rate is too high for fighting the same enemies without getting new cards
>>744195919Not the worst in the series, but the one with the most diehard "This was actually totally good guys" defenders. It's a complete piece of shit. The Wii had so many shitty follow-ups for established series. It's a
>>744200156Rightfully killed mid sentence for such a dogshit take
>>744200198t. enjoys it when his Mario RPG has shitty mechanics and when his "platformer" doesn't have any interesting platforming sections. A pure slog of a game that people pretend is carried by some triehard storyline that could only impress you if you've only been subjected to other Nintendo stories before.
>>744195919Apollo Justice. It ruined the whole Ace Attorney series.
>>744198210gacha trash shouldn't even count
>>744200690let's play that tape again to see if the game got any better
>>744200690I'd say it was DD that ruined the series considering every game since AJ pretends it never happened
>>744197479Depends if you mean just the prime games. If so, yesIf you mean Metroid as a whole, then it’s unquestionably Other M
>>744195919WhutShake It is kino
>>744199219Really? Huh.I would have said that as well.
>>744200156You absolute fucking Mongloid64 ≠ TTYD ≠ SPM >>>>>> Everything else
After the sexy anime cutscenes of Mega Man 8, going back to 8-bits was such a downgrade.
>>744205378Megaman 9 is fantastic. It's probably one of the best games in the series.
>>744205378The worst part is the MM2 nostalgia pandering. No slide, charge buster or fucking anything is a way bigger mechanical downgrade than the graphics one is. Locking all that to Protoman (who was $2 DLC until the collection, and takes double damage) is lame as fuck
>>744205267>is not equal towtf does that even mean retard, either say it's equal or higher you faggot
>>744195919Never played a game so good lucking and yet soulless at the same time.
>>744207678i agree, also looking*
>>744200156Because it was actually good. Was it as good as the previous games? No. Was it the beginning of the series transforming into dogshit? Yes. But is it a bad game? No.
>>7442053788bit just feels right with the classic series. 7,8, and 11 just have a clunky feel to them that I just can't shake.
>>744200156What a retarded opinion to have. Sorry you can't rotate an apple in your mind and have no appreciation for the soul overload that is this game
>>744200275>triehard
Bump
>>744195919Yes, I am serious.
>>744205378>After the sexy anime cutscenes of Mega Man 8,Nice level design you got there, faggot.
>>744195993YGO stockholm syndrome players in shambles>>744205173Came here to post this.>>744205378It's one of the best, you retarded graphicsfag
>>744205839mm9 proved slide and charge shot aren't too big of a deal, not much was lost unless you were conditionated by them at childhood.
>>744195919Master of Disguise is worse, Shake It is just a slightly inferior 4, which is still very good.
This game feels exhausting a lot of the timeI'd rather just play the Gameboy game
>>744195919I actually liked Shake it when it came out. However I haven't played anything but Wario World in years.Have a rotten day!
>>744215034Tbh I still haven't played the OG (I will eventually), but I did play AM2R and I'm still pissed about Nintendo nuking it but SR is still extremely good
>>744202553Metroid 2 is worse than both of them.
>>744205378Didn't mind the 8-bit, just hated they took everything away to make it play like MM2. The fact they did it again for 10 was dull. Hope they show off 12 again eventually.
Shake It is still pretty damn good, I just replayed it and really enjoyed it. I still wanna go back and find the rest of the secret levels. and maybe complete as many missions as I can without hating the game
>>744217818Agreed, I think it's a testament to how good the Land games are general that it's the weakest in the series. Where the fuck is the next one Nintendo?
>>744217993based
>>744217993If that's not bait I just feel sorry for you anon
>>744212357lol that's ironically the best game in the series worst is 3 no contest
>>744218110>motion controls in a 3D platformer >constant waggle bullshit in a 3D platformer >constant pointer bullshit in a 3D platformer >linear but pretends not to be >restricted movement compared to 64 and Sunshine It's objectively the worst and carried only by nostalgia.
>>744200156I hate Super Paper Mario and I still think you're retarded. As bad as SPM is, the Paper Mario series gets SO much worse. In no world is SPM the absolute worst when Sticker Star and Origami King exists
>>744218349And Color Splash. How the fuck did I forget Color Splash?
>>744200156The game's absolutely tedious to play but it's also probably one of the last Mario spin-offs that was allowed to be genuinely weird and different.I won't pretend it's secretly a masterpiece but I kind of get why people retroactively prop it up so much, especially with later Paper Marios being even more tedious while also creatively dead.
>>744195919 >>744200156 >>744217993>worst Mario >worst Paper Mario >worst Wario Land >worst Smash Bros. >worst Mario kart What happened during the Wii era?
>>744218538I feel so vindicated that people are finally waking up to how dogshit the Wii era was.
>>744218538
>>744218538>MarioMaybe worst in that it's a 8/10 on a bad day compared to the other 9/10s, but I'd rate 64 below Galaxy myself>Paper MarioSticker Star obliterates that argument>Wario LandOnly by technicality because Master of Disguise doesn't count, it's still good>Smash BrosNot unless you're a miserable compfag>Mario KartDidn't play it but is it really worse than Super Mario Kart?
>>744218538Ultra-casualization.Forcing waggle controls into every fucking thing even when it contributed nothing to the actual gameplay.Absolute dogshit partygame shovelware taking up over half the shelf real estate at vidya stores.Mario Kart is the only franchise that somehow didn’t get completely butchered. I will always hate the Wii era.
>>744219005Brawl is irredeemable trash, even from a casual play perspective. Subspace fags can suck a dick
>>744219005Shake It was too gimmicky for my liking, and the soundtrack wasn't a good fit.Visually it's got great animation but a lot of the enemy and world designs don't stick and lack identity compared to Wario Land 1 or 4 in particular.By too gimmicky I mean having shit like autoscroller subwarine levels with tilt both aim and move forward, this has no place in a Wario Land game.Kirby's Epic Yarn was guilty of this needless gimmicky variety, which is no surprise considering both were developed by Good-Feel.
>>744219005>Not unless you're a miserable compfagI don't give a shit about comp, Melee is still better
>>744218349>Not the worst in the seriesIs everybody on this board illiterate?
>>744217978>game was style over substance, splurging on expensive 2d animation over good level design>bombed hard, losing a ton of money in the processLet’s be real, it’s not coming back. But look on the bright side, at least it taught nintendo gameplay > graphics, that’s a worthy sacrifice
>>744219153Finally someone said it
>>744219198Ok Dylan
>>744218971most disappointing maybe but 2 is an abomination that misses the mark on every single aspect besides character writing
>>744218538>Best Rhythm Heaven >Best Xenoblade We gotta take what few wins we can get...
another hard pill to swallow : DKCR>>744217978I really thought they would make one for switch, but they were too busy porting wiiu games and making safe remasters>>744217993I agree in that galaxy 2 is better>>744218337I played it on dolphin with all the motion controls comfortably bound to buttons and joysticks and at the end of the day, the movement still feels kind of shit. and you can just backflip spin wall jump spin over half the obstacles >>744218538mario kart wii is great
>>744198498>Phantom Hourglass>2D
>>744218349SPM is the game that took the old Paper Mario away from us, so it is THE worst game, even if later games are technically worse.
>>744219249Nigger, the OP specifically says the thread is for "the worst entry in the series." Are YOU illiterate?
>>744219362Replayed the trilogy a little while ago and I guess I had forgotten just how bad they fucked the gameplay.ME2 feels like temu Gears of War. Worse rpg mechanics, worse guns, worse everything.
>>7442181172 is literally clown vomit the gameevery time I play it I feel sick and bored when none of the other serious sam games achieve thatbut I will admit 3 is also down there as one of the worst
>>744218138worse than flopped ages even???
>>744219276Yeah Wario is sadly relegated to WarioWare forever now.>>744219401>DKCRHonestly this one I can agree with, after playing Tropical Freeze DKCR just feels flat and incomplete in comparison>I really thought they would make one for switchSame, then after Banaza I figured a new Wario Land game would fit that style perfectly and got bait-and-switched by Splatoon Raiders.
>>744195919>what if we took the Arcade games and 2nd Mission, combine it, put it on the GBA, and made it really bad!
>>744219463Talking about the absolute worst game of a series tends to be very boring desu. It's always either ragebait or such an obvious answer there's nothing to talk about."Game that personally pissed anons off even if they're not the worst technically" is at least something resembling a real topic.
>>744219637probably still more soul than 4
>>744218337>constant waggle>constant
>>744218337I never liked Gaylaxy either. Overrated as fuck games.
>>744219816You have to waggle every single time you want to do a spin jump. How is that not constant?
This is objective truth btw
>>744220003facts
>>744220003>filtered by Super Lmfao, zoomers man
>>744220170unc status fr
>strip away most of Sam’s toolkit>add dumb mark & execute mechanics>even if you wanted to properly stealth it, you really can’t because the levels are narrow as fuck and filled with enemies in a way that requires killing to proceedI can swallow adding more explosive options if there still is an option to play stealthily, but creating levels where you need to pass this one doorway / gate / whatever to proceed and then putting multiple guards with flashlights stationary to watch that route? Fuck off.
>>744195919Max Payne 3. Rockstar, for some reason, decided to make Grimbald Man In Brazil instead of Max Payne 3
>>744220170I too like half the screen being the map
>>744218538>>744219138>Ultra-casualization.This. The whole gen was a disaster but as Nintendo goes they went through their own layer of sanitization.>>744219378Best punch out too
>>744220003>the worst Mario karts so the topBait image made by a retarded zoomer
>>744219463No, you are because the post about Super Paper Mario specifically clarified that it's not actually the worst in the series but still far worse than its defense force likes to admit. Obviously the worst is Sticker Star but that's a boring answer.
>>744219972>How is that not constant?Because spin jump is not mandatory at constant basis so you don't use it at "constant" pace.
>>744220003>Double Dash S tier>64 that low>DS that highAt least you got mk wii right
>>744219401yeah after playing through dkcr recently the level design felt way more close to a Crash game than anything from DKC1. also diddy just being a shitty jetpack powerup instead of a playable character was lazy as fuck. at least in tropical freeze dixie and cranky were better designed
>>74422094264 fucking sucks. It sucked doubly so back when it had to compete with DKR and CTR
>>744221050diddy kong racing wasn't as good
>>744221096you didn’t play it if you believe that
>>744221147you only played it back in the day and have nostalgia for it blinding you
>>744221186nta but I recently played it for the first time and it was fantastic. the green boosts alone made it more memorable than MK64
>>744221250>the green boosts alone made it more memorable than MK64Toad's turnpike and golden mushrooms
>>744220942nta but what's wrong with Double Dash? S tier sounds fair to me, I really like the unique items and how it enhances the whole two characters gimmick
>>744221360For me; it were those drifting physics. Tracks weren't that good too tbqh
>>744221341I haven't played mk64 in over a decade maybe it's time to go back
the jump from this to midnight club 2 is pretty damn massive
>>744218538>>worst Mario kartIn what fucking way? Wii is certified kamige.
>>744221739he’s probably a dsbab who thinks snaking takes skill
>>744221557I played this earlier this year or maybe last year and I don't think it was bad at all. It's a repackaged Midtown Madness with hook men and fictional urban cars for PS2 launch day. I'm playing Midtown Madness 3 by DICE for Xbox and it's not awful but definitely not as good as Angel's games.
>>744217978>>744219276You haven't heard? A new Wario Land is in development according some prominent leakers.
>>744222236damn, can’t wait to play that and Super Mario Titans
>>744222236Didn't that turn out to be Splatoon Raiders, or is this a different leak?
>>744218538 Mario Kart Wii is one of the few good and skillful Wii entries. But otherwise you're mostly right. The Wii is a disgrace.Also>Metroid Prime 3 (big stepdown) and Other M (genuine worst game in the series)>Kirby's Epic Yarn>NSMB>Skyward Sword which deserves way more hate (TP is a GC game)There are maybe 15 worthwhile Wii games that aren't multiplats which don't count because why the fuck would you play them on the Wii?>Sin and Punishment 2>Kirby's Return to Dream Land>XB1>Punch Out>Madworld>Elebits>Little King's Story>Battallion Wars 2That's off the top of my head. Never cared much for NMH but I'll take that as an honorable mention.
>>744221847WW has almost all of the same issues that SS has, but without any of the strenghts.
>>744221432I haven't played it but there is a PC recomp version
>>744205378>sexy cutscenes>WE WILL FWIND DOCTAH WAAWEE>muh SOVLNo, fuck off. I loved MM8 and i want that aesthetic back along with the PS1 techno dnb music, but those cutscenes were hilariously awful and you know ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh9vuzg7uoIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2tbfK-2SwUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E91b_mV_DAoSadly, main issue with these kind of franchises is how they force them to get more kiddie looking every time. Think of Bomberman for a similar decay
>>744222547>no F-Zero>no Star Fox>mediocre as shit Animal Crossing entry
>>744219696>>744220813>the random, off topic reply is okay because the post said it was a random, off topic replyThe thread is for worst entries. Simple as. I don't care if you think that's "boring." That's what the thread is for. Feel free to not post at all or make your own thread. But if you're going to just post random bullshit, expect to be called out as the retarded faggot that you are.
>>744222547>Kirby's Epic Yarn>NSMB>MP3They weren't bad at all, nigger>There are maybe 15 worthwhile Wii games>8 games >Wario Smooth moves>DBZTenkaichi 3>Tatsunoko VS capcom>Best version of RE4>RE Umbrella chronicles + sequel>Sonic Colors>The last Story>Excite truck/bots>The conduit>Mario Galaxy 2>Trauma Center Second Opinion/Trauma TeamOk what now, faggolami; we're past 15 games.
>>744222935>OP makes a thread>naturally people add to the conversationThis is how 4chan has always worked. No thread in the history of this godforsaken site has always been 100% on-topic. Get that stick out your ass and read posts properly before you reply to them. This would have spared you the trouble of getting angry at a post that specifcally said in the beginning that SPM isn't the worst in the series. At least you don't have enough shit taste actually like that piece of trash, I'll give you that.
>>744222590>duhhh look how cinematic dis is doeYou have a brown soul, as does anyone who defends the game that gave Nintendo an excuse to convert Zelda into mass appeal slop.
>>744222332First one was back in March by a commenter who also leaked things like the next Star Fox before NateTheHate.https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1s5r1jm/youtube_comment_posted_nintendo_leaks_that_lines/NashWeedle and noarmsandnolegs have also been posting about it since June.
>>744223295>OP: Post your favorite book!>THAT'S BORING. I WANNA TALK ABOUT MY FAVORITE MOVIE INSTEAD>OP: But that's not the point of the thread. Maybe you could make your ow->I LIEK MARBEL SUPERHERO MOOBIES!!!!!!!!You're still a faggot.
>>744223013>sonic colors>good
>>744223505Oh and Necro Felipe as well.https://x.com/necrolipe/status/2063741536685158795
>>744221847Based. This travesty made me give up hope on the whole series.
>>744221847If we aren't counting the CD-I games, then I probably agree with this SS is easily the worst "Nintendo Zelda." People can hate on BotW and TotK all they want, but it's because of SS being so dogshit that they felt the need to basically reinvent the whole series into open world slop
>>744219362>>7442195012 is still the best in the series, buckos
>>744222590this looks atrocious wtf
What was the point of this
>>744195919I like Shake it though.
>>744226236Filler to make the 3DS last til the Switch
>>744226236the last year of the 3ds was fucking pathetic
All downhill from here
>>744200156>>744200198I remember one of the reasons this flopped critically/financially was that the casual audience picked up the first new Mario game on Wii and was confused/upset it was a wordy platformer with a story that made no sense
>>744226381This is a monument to bloat, but the Yakuza series has had such terrible games in it, it's hard to pick out one as the worst
>>744226381Like how the sign on the left just says SEX
>>744217264I will die on the hill that RE0 is one of the better games in the series. Even if you disagree with that statement, it’s far more faithful to the series than RE5 and RE6 ever were. Fuck those pieces of shit.
>>744226236Mario Party has some hot competition when it comes to which game is the biggest pile of dogshit, at least 4 or 5 solid contenders and somehow Advance isn't even one of them.
>>744200156I dont like how they removed the entire turn based gameplay and replace it with the most basic ass gameplay possible.
>>744209571You're either retarded or you never played it.
>>744222590WW doesn't have Fi stopping you every 30 seconds to explain everything you already know
>>744226680If it was a decent platformer with light "RPG" mechanics it would have been fine. But it's got the flattest and most boring level design ever and the dimensional gimmick gets old after the second chapter. Zero difficulty to be found either. Just a complete mess on a conceptional level. Even just walking through the game takes way too long and you have to wait hours until you get that hover platform shit.
>>744221847The Switch version is solid. No more waggle, Fi doesn’t bother you as much, 1080p/60hz, and they fixed the repetitive cutscenes every time you pick up an item.
>>744227167Does the Switch version fix the useless sky, constantly repeated areas, fighting the same bosses 20 times, nonsensical objectives (collecting musical notes?) and lame items?
>>744205378I don't get why people whine so much about slide and charge shot when you can just play as Proto Man. Ohhh but they made the game slightly harder to compensate....just say you're a casual piece of shit and move on then.
>>744219362What's worse, the game that caused the series to go down a bad direction or the game that takes that bad direction all the way to hell?I have issues with Dead Space 2 for that reason, they made the Marker outright evil instead of chaotic, then in Dead Space 3 we end on that godawful cliffhanger DLC ending because your enemies are now living fucking planets that don't make sense to defeat.
>>744227821The marker was evil in all media except DS1, so the change happened pretty immediately. The red marker's shit is still unexplained except by "The copy was faulty" or "Issac's resistance let his madness still take a helpful form".
Low hanging fruit
>>744195919absolute shovelware that trannies just loooooooooove because ECKS DEE I PLAYED IT BY TILTING LE HECKIN GAMECUBE LOOK AT MEEEE im glad its sequel got shitcanned and i wish it was reworked into a pokemon game like it was originally planned to so it didnt have to stain the kirby series
>>744195919Burnout Paradise
>>744217264Third best game in the series, anon.
>>744221847>>744222590I've come around a bit on Skyward Sword, but it took me like a decade to figure out how to put my distaste for it into words. It's like an indie game in the best and worst ways possible.>It's like a Kickstarter game that barely met the target budget and had major infighting during development which would explain why everything had to be reused multiple times>Groose is great>Story setup is kind of retarded when you think about it. The town's prom queen disappeared, so the police send the twink graduate, and only the twink graduate after her>Zelda with the best personality outside of Tetra>Sky is cool, but there's no sick air battles or sky dungeon>Time mechanic dungeon is cool
>>744205378>not even talking about the PSX sprite art, just the fucking videosPeople who cry about aesthetic always have the worst taste imaginable.
>>744229096>Sky is coolLiterally what is cool about that empty void with a couple of skies and shitty "islands" floating in the middle of nowhere? It's like a parody of the WW sea and that was bad already.
>>744226648I liked the gimmick of playing as Bowser
>>744230114Not sure it counts as a small download game, it's no full retail release.It is pretty crap though, it has like 15 minutes of "content" tops.
>>744219191>WL4>World designs lack identity
>>744230296Doll technically the worst Warioware game. But I guess otherwise the GameCube release of megamicro games?
My goodness this thread is still up???Shit was going so slow when I was early in it! You either dead or alive!
>>744230594Sonic and the Secret Rings?Sonic Labyrinth?
>>744212564Yeah truly amazing level design you got there as well.
>>744217993Based, Rosalina and her Storybook were a mistake. No other Mario character has all that bullshit she has because Mario characters weren’t meant to have a 300 page backstory like Space Peach in a blue dress. So glad Star Fox BTFO Rosalina in her own movie.
>>744230701Yes, this is effective level design.You're thrown head-first into a new gimmick and you have to adapt on-the-fly to your slow ascent and slippery horizontal control using only your buster fire.
>>744230867>t. Miyamoto
>>744207087Well since this thread is still up I’ll fix my mistake PM64 = TTYD = SPM > Everything Else
>>744230867>that imageNot everybody here speaks Mexican
>>744215034Still better than Prime 4 buddy
>>744195919Zipper: SOCOM is a very well liked franchise, but the latest games in it are on the PS2 and PSP. and the latest and greatest platform, the PS3 is where the money's at. We saw that this new "Gears of War" thing is all the rage, but some people might prefer a more strategic option, not to mention that PS3 players don't even get to play that game.Zipper: So should we make a SOCOM game for the PS3?Sony: Good idea!Zipper: Should we work on it?Sony: No, let's give it to the company who made the PSP RTS spinoff (Slant Six) instead of you guys.Zipper: Why?Sony: Because SOCOM fans will buy it no matter what. Now shut up and develop that 256 player online game you guys wanted to make.Slant Six: Should we have a campaign and local multiplayer like the PS2 games?Sony: No, make it online only, because most Call of Duty and Gears of War fans mostly just play the online anyway.Slant Six: We're going to launch it on September 16, 2008.Sony: No, delay it to October 14 so that you guys can deliver "the best SOCOM online experience possible".Slant Six: Good idea! We promise that the biggest issues with this game will be fixed, like the bugs, the lag, the fact there's only seven maps, and the missing trophies and matching calendars that are on the packaging and in the manual.Sony: Um... the game is about to come out, and you still haven't done any of the things you promised.Slant Six: You said when you hired us instead of Zipper, quote-unquote, "SOCOM fans will buy it no matter what".Sony: Fuck it, lets release it anyway. Slant Six: Um... the feedback isn't looking too good. The critics and fans are giving complaints about the technical issues and nonexistent single player campaign.Sony: Who cares? If we bot the user scores, people will think that the critics are wrong and buy it anyway.Slant Six: IGN just gave it a scathing 4.5/10 review, and people trust IGN much more then your bot farm.Sony: Fine, fix the issues.This shit killed my interest in SOCOM.
>>744216862No way you actually think Samus Returns is better than the original lmao. Never should have let Spanish hands touch Japanese and Mexican kino
>>744218538>worst Smash BrosThat would be Ultimate for me for a multitude of reasons I won’t go into as not bore anyone with a big wall of text. I can’t stand recency bias despite Ultimate going on to being 8 years old.>You picked MeleeDoesn’t mean I’m associated with the Competitive Scene. I love Melee for the Trophies, Single Player Content and just dicking around with Special Smash in Hyrule Temple, still the best big stage Smash has ever done.
>>744200275Retard.
>>744220003I miss Mario Kart DS
>>744226386>But Enough about X and Y
>>744219191>the soundtrack wasn't a good fit.Just remember anon, it could always be worse.https://youtu.be/pAtd6NBvVA0
>>744220003This is the most correct mario kart tier list. Super, super circuit and Mario Kart 64 don't need to apply as those games physics suck and Double Dash is the first good MK game. Took long enough as F-Zero was far ahead
>>744231247People who defend SPM have terminal shit taste
>>744219401>I really thought they would make one for switch, but they were too busy porting wiiu games and making safe remastersJust when nobody thought a Rhythm Heaven would be Switch we ended up getting one, although very late into the Twilight Years of Switch 1, better late than never. There was also FDC Emio.
>>744220003Solid list
>>744220170Nah that game is just shit
>>744222795Okay Proto Potential Man
>>744226236NDcube was just shitting out a bunch of games and seeing which ones would stick. They will never hold a candle to HudsonSoft Kino. Here’s one of the worst Jamboree minigames btw.
>>744226386>*AHEM*
>>744226648>Games with good ideas but bad execution
>>744195919Wario world Is much worse
>>744228354There is no bad Kirby game :)
>>744218538>Galaxy is the worst 3D Mario, fair. I hate the sluggish trash physics and boring scripted levels>No Sticker Star and Color Splash will forever be the worst Paper Marios>Yeah Shake it is pretty fucking trash, even worse that it killed off one of Nintendo's best series>Brawl sucks balls you're right>Fuck no, Wii is great. Even at worst it is NOT worse than Super or Super Circuit, those games are assTo answer your post, casualfag appeal
>>744205173WHAT CAN I SAY EXCEPT YOU'RE WELCOME?FOR THE SALES, THE GAMES, THE REVIVEHEY IT'S OKAY, IT'S OKAY, YOU'RE WELCOME!I'M JUST THE REASON FIRE EMBLEM'S STILL ALIVE!YOU'RE WELCOME! YOU'RE WELCOME!
>>744229937What is there to talk about? The sprites still look good even to this day and actually push the series forward instead of keeping it stagnant.
>>744232034Fuck off Wario World is awesome
>>744230114How does it stack up to this?
>>744195919I say this sincerely.
>>744232043>Super Star sold les than Crystal Shardslol damn
>>744195919Pic unrelated?
>>744232334I find solace that at least Super Star Ultra is right up there.
>>744232325Is this vanilla exclusive or does it extend to Golden. Are you considering P1 and 2 or just NuSona. Because as someone that likes p2is, i can say that is the worst one. Yes, i find p1 more palatable to play.
>>744218648The Wii era is both the best thing and the worst thing happened to Nintendo.I hate the console so goddamn much but at the same time I'm grateful that it dug Nintendo out of the hole it was since the mid 90s
>>744232161What is ZED
>>744232582Are you bullshiting or something because I've heard the opposite that this is the best of the series.
>>744232247It has more micro games I think
>>744232079Super circuit isn’t nearly as ass as people make it out to be. It’s mid-rank at worst
>>744232969>an opinion I don’t agree with?>must be bait
>>744232969It killed the series.
>>744233119I'm not saying I don't agree dumbass, I'm genuinely asking, I have this game on my wishlist waiting for a sale and I don't want to buy a dud.>>744233139Please elaborate.
>>744230594I don't like Superstars but it's far from being the worst game. The worst Sonic game is Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric. I don't think tgere's even a debate. It's such a mess that Sonic fans memoryholed it completely and had to cope by saying it's not a main series game despite getting the same ammount of hype and effort put into it. Some people might say Sonic 06 bit lets be real here, tons of people liked Sonic 06 for what it was. I am yet to see a community of diehard Sonic Boom defenders
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>>744221847Skyward Sword is frustrating cause it basically doubles down on the problems that plagued WW and TP.Fron a subjective perspective though, I think it shoots itself in the foot presentation wise and in terms of story too.
>>744233187It introduced a female protagonist a cut the number of bachelorettes in half to make room for bachelors. This has been the standard ever since. It's a women's series now.
>>744217993Galaxy 2 is worse, but they’re still better than 3D land
>>744231214Maybe Ultimate it's just the best, you know, it's been almost 10 years.
>>744233119Learn to read you dumb fuck.
Boredom by Sleep
>>744231881Honestly it’s not that bad>ok the keys are random>oh shit they stick around>oh fuck I have to memorize the door too>oh shit now I have to guess which one opens the second doorMe and my buddy were cracking up playing it, I think it’s best not to tell another player how to play it and let them figure it out on their own
>>744195919Anybody who says this piece of shit is good has not played it in over 20 years. Sunshine is straight up bad from start to finish with nothing redeeming about it.
>>744232542Same for 3DS
>>744233372Yeah it’s best at being Quantity over Quality
>>744233327The story of that one just sucks in general. Constant dick sucking of the obnoxious dragon bitch.
>>744233589Nintendo wise? absolutely but 3rd party support for 3DS was absolutely greatAlso>4G worse than "Underwater: the game"
>>744233670Every returning character is improved and the new characters are equal if not more complex than any of the old characters so I don't get this argument.
>>744234730because they don't like anime characters and only wanted scribblos.
>>744233670The characters and stages are fine. It's what surrounds it that sucks. The UI is too much of a Wii U retread, and recycling the (bad) announcer makes it look like a mod. The single player is somehow worse than Wii U's. The online experience is terrible and I'm not even talking about netcode.
>>744233529I'm an avid Sunshine hater but I would rather replay Sunshine than any of the 2 galaxy games.
>>744200156-me, Mario!
>>744205378Megaman 11 is by far the worst main entry megaman game. Most forgettable music of the series, forgettable boss masters. It just wasn't fun and didn't leave any type of impact. bass,8 and 7 arent that great either but atleast they have memorable music "7 and 8 atleast" and nostalgia going for them. 11 just has...nothing.
I love Final Fantasy but if I had to pick a bad one that’s my least favorite…
>>744234918>The UI is too much of a Wii U retread>Wii U was a Brawl Retread
>>744219378>Best Rhythm HeavenFever is not by any stretch of the imagination the best Rhythm Heaven and so tired of people glazing it
>>744234861It's honestly sad we now live in an era where there's a general consensus that a Fire Emblem newcomer is an inevitability. Yeah sure it got newcomers every game but the fact that it double dips, that’s when people start to have a problem with it. Not even Pokèmon double dipped on newcomers in Ultimate whether it’s base roster or DLC, not counting “Everyone is Here”.
Speaking of Mario RPGs...
>>744235432Look i know it's loooooong and slooooowBut come on. It's still better than Paper Jam. i will also add that SSS isn't that great and is surpassed by both PiT (gameplay and difficulty) and BiS (plot, characters and feel)
>>744233376Not a refutation
>>744221847I preferred this one over Botw. Good over world but literally nothing else to that game at all.
>>744235768Paper jam was better, people just don’t know since no one bothered to play it
>>744235432Brothership since it’s the one I played and slogged through to beat, clocking in 50 hours. Haven’t played Paper Jam, I dodged cringe there.
>>744235937Didn't play this one. Is it shit? It looked really shit in the promos.
>>744230594Superstars is just a worse Mania, meaning its still a fun game to run through.
>>744235768>>744235905>>744235937Paper Jam is superior purely because it's a shorter, faster, more compact game that doesn't bog itself down in tutorials or shitty motion gimmicks. Dream Team is an absolute fucking nightmare to play through, whereas PJ and Brothership are simply mediocre and slight.
>>744195919It's just not as fun as DX+. Music is pretty good though
>>744235983All i’ll say is the IGN reviewer who gave it a 5/10 was completely right and people have come around to agreeing with him and that is review was fair and honest. Not even gonna say anything about the game itself, that’s literally all you need to know and nothing else M&L should’ve stayed dead
>>744236864Impossible when Portable Ops exists.
>>744195919I'm in the middle of playing this blind right now and the last thing I did it in was beat the final boss and a few boss missions that unlocked after. It's been such a whatever experience so far, kind of dull even. I do not understand the appeal of these missions that contradict each other often so you need to redo the stage twice at minimum and why lock the dash attack WL4 introduced to these machines you enter that force you into it until you hit a wall (or crouch to stop prematurely). It's not a bad game at all but man is the game is such a slow grind so far.
>>744233267At least Sonic 06 had some good music. Boom doesn't even have that
>>744235937Firmly believe no one playtested this game, how did no one play it for 10+ hours and not go "I am not having fun, why is it like this"
>>744200156Candlejack got him!
>>744219378The best one was the GBA/Arcade one.
>>744220003DS is a masterpiece, yes.
>>744235937What in the FUCK happened to the Mario RPG games?
>>744220485>Grimbald ManYeah because Max was such a cheerful happy go lucky fellow in 1 and 2
>>744233075I tried playing my old copy recently and Super Circuit is honest to God even worse than I remembered it being. Not often a bad game makes me like it even less.
>>744238870Good question, once the 3DS and Wii U were out it was as if they had to go and be as offensively bad as possibld.
>>744238870TanabeAlso, despise Brothership being slow as fuck is still better than SSS and BiS
>>744239893No fucking way Superstar saga is perfection.
>>744216862>Echoes in the same tier as BeyondIf you're the kind of person that waits for their HP to top off in every light bubble you should just stop playing video games
>>744195919It's not even bad, but the level design is definitely a step down from 2.
>>744235937Playing this game is like shoving a rusty nail through your dick. You keep thinking the pain will stop at some point, but it never does.The writing is the most bland shit I've ever seen, it makes Superstar Saga look like Shakespeare. Every bros move is designed to waste your time. The plug mechanic (or whatever it was) forces you to keep readjusting whenever you run out of charges, annihilating the pacing of every battle.Right when you're about to get to the final dungeon, the game screeches to a halt and makes you backtrack to every island so you can spend an hour doing jack shit.Any hope of Mario & Luigi being good again died with Alphadream.
>>744240085>pointing this out and not Other M
>>744222590>"strengths">Posts the WW and TP final boss again but with eight directional waggling to trick your brain into thinking you're doing moreSS's combat was a failed experiment, hence why they never tried expanding on it
>>744240010I think its damn good but not quite perfection. I thought beginning was a bit slow but it became fantastic by the end.
>>744226358>the 3ds was fucking patheticftfy
>>744240141I prefer this over the two Retro ones for one autistic reasonthe Tag in Tag Out switching of characters is an important part of DKC for me and not having them ruins it for me. They're fine platformers in and of themselves.
>>744240329all nintendo games also the fuckers had the motherfucking gall to re release LM2
>>744240142Looked up gameplay of a 100% walktrhough just clicking through random parts of the video and haven't seen anything interesting yet. To me this game is the epitome of modern Nintendo design philosophy. Fake "polish" without any edges or personality that appeals to people who enjoy Youtube videos in which the narrator makes up funny names to refer to the viewers and has a cartoon avatar that has specific traits he likes to remind the audience of.
>>744226381The Kiwami games exist.
>>744240342understandable
>>744235768SSS is the best GBA gsme you ninnie and its much better than PiT which is the worst of the series
>>744233267While it's one of the worst games, the tv series is one of the funniest shows of the 2010s. Sticks is also pure sex.
>>744209571>>744226419>>744231308wow im starting to think these games might not actually be good
>>744240840I mean it was ironically the shitty tie in game to what was clearly developed as a tv series.
>>744240329Nintendo has only released embarrassing bullshit for the past decade
>>7442417672006 to 2016 was such a joke. Unironically think the yakuza might've poisoned Iwata for how badly he fumbled the company>A bazillion bland and unfun NSMB games>The worst Zelda games>Mediocre at best 3D Mario games>The worst 2 Smash bros games>Mario RPGs died and never recovered>Starfox, Chibi Robo and F zero killed in cold blood>So many dogshit Metroid games>Pokemon got progressively worse every generation>Amiibo festival, which will forever rest on the gaming Mount Rushmore of shame alongside ET 2600, Concord, and Google Stadia>Censorship galore when the N64 and Gamecube finally chilled out>The Wii U gamepad. Said controller cost $150, is entirely proprietary, it needs an entire power brick to charge its 2-hour battery, is region locked, and the console is 100% dependent on it. You can't replace it if you live outside of Japan, better hope one of your friends doesn't break it in one of the bazillion pass the Wii U gamepad games.>Every 3DS is sold at a loss because the retards used stolen tech for the 3D screens and lost the patent lawsuit. Every Wii U is sold at a loss because nobody wanted that paperweight.
>>744242459I liked A Link Between Worlds
>>744199030For Star Force sure. For MM as a whole, not even close. X7 takes that dishonor.
>>744240808Based SSS EnjoyerSuperstar Saga is unmatched compared to the others>Being the first game its naturally the freshest>The fish out of water comedy works amazingly well - Beanbean kingdom manages to be familiar yet completely alien as some sort of weird alternate Mushroom Kingdom>Still the funniest gags in the series>Best exploration in the series; Mixing some non-linearity in the main questline and a bunch of cool shit off the beaten path>Combat is incredibly snappy and fast - Outside of the fire bros move attack, every attack at your disposal comes out lightning fast. In addition, there are no HP sponge enemies; A good player can absolutely shred bosses>Only game that doesn't feature a mouthpiece character like Starlow or the Suitcase from PiT to talk for the bros, which makes all their NPC interactions all the more entertaining since they have to pantomine their way through every single scene>Perfectly paced, never overstays its welcome and constantly throws you into new areas without ever feeling like it dragsIt was lightning in a bottle
>>744195919Worse that Wario World?Anyways, it had the best trailer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLJzo72vnzI
>>744200690I'll agree with you on a surface level that AJ is when the series spiraled into a mess it never should've became, but my hot take is that GAA1 is the worst entry on it's own due to how it's poorly paced even worse than AJ, it takes far less risks than AJ(which didn't really do too many of them), and while GAA2 was pretty darn good, it wasn't so good to justify everything GAA1 tried to do in it to set it up, while AJ at least sold pretty well and Japan tends to love it's characters, GAA's are mostly forgotten with the exception of Kazuma and it's actual poor sales in japan is why the series has been put on ice for ten years.>>744200156I hate SMP so much but I'd still give that title to Sticker Star.>>744202351fun fact, that tape gets played 22 times or so, 4 times in day 1, 18 times in day 2, not all the times are the full video, but it's shown so many times it's surreal because you think "Oh it wasn't that bad" but then you check it back out again and "no it actually was that bad"As someone else pointed out, Klavier lies like 3 separate times in 4-3 just so the narrative can make him seem like he isn't stupid, which makes it funnier when he does his whole "I only care about the truth" line later.while I might still think GAA1 is overall worse, AJ, after being nicer towards it for years, has reearned by ire due to these watchalong streams.
>>744232582>>744233327>>744233901Sad part was devs had a chance to salvage RF4 but fucked it up somehow.
>>744204903Being the worst game in a series doesn't nesscarily mean its a bad game.
>>744230867>mobile filename>spanish "meme"Galaxy haters being dirty third worlders is about what I'd expect.
>>744235201Really? Worse than 2, 8, 13 and 16? I find this hard to believe.
>>744243040I did too, but it was in between Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks, Skyward Sword and Triforce Heroes.
>>744209571You meant to post the third one.
>>744244167tbqh I enjoyed Phantom Hourglass as well, the sailing, ship customization, treasure hunting, drawing on the map and online multiplayer were all cool aspects to meGranted other parts were not so fun but I don't think it sucked
>>744195919OP is a genuine retard for even considering Master of Disguise to be a better game than Shake It.
>>744245074But MoD isn't a Wario Land game, sweetie
>>744235768>SSS>is surpassed by both PiT (gameplay and difficulty)How terrible are you at video games to conclude PiT had the slightest bit of difficulty at all.>BiS (plot, characters and feel)Invalid when the game introduces Starlow 'I talk to fucking much because Nintendo felt the Bros needed somebody to be their voice for some fuck reason'Superstar wins are merit of the game letting you fucking play it instead of being a railroad of exposition dumps broken up by mini games and combat that somehow manages to be inferior to a gameboy advance game.
>>744240329It's weird, I actually thought the 3DS had a fairly strong library but almost none of the games I liked were first-party titles. Even games that are considered legitimately good like Link Between Worlds just left me kinda wanting for a more interesting, less safe game.
>>744246362yeah, seems like my most fond 3DS memories are from streetpass and mii plaza, going to conventions and meeting peoplelooking at my 3DS library, there's always something wrong with all of themlike you said, even objectively good games like super mario 3D land still feel soulless
>>744205378Megaman 8 was the peak.
>>744200156based. SPM is dogshit that people keep pretending is somehow good because the thing they put out after was also dogshit
>>744245151>Yoshi's Island is not a Yoshi game, it's the sequel to Super Mario World
>>744230914NTA, but how is that different to>You're thrown head-first into a new gimmick and you have to adapt on-the-fly to the instructions on screen using only your jump and slide.Both scenarios require a certain degree of on-the-spot flight reactions
Does this count as a Mortal Kombat game?If not then either 4 or 7.
>>744195919Honestly a toss up between this and 16, but 16 I would give the very slight advantage to for being an actually complete game. Sad how even with multiple DLC and a novel 15 still feels rushed and lacking.
>>744244994Phantom hourglass had online multiplayer? Huh, neat. As a kid I always wamted to find another person with a copy to try tbe multiplayer mode, but never did.
>>744248435Yeah I played it online all the time. Even ran into a few hackers
>>744247212I'm not big on 8 or 9, but the other guy's example is a better gameplay shift because it doesn't resort to straight up telling you what to do like jump jump slide slide does.
>>744200156Screw you! I actually loved this game.
>>744227160Is not released yet. Could you explain?
>>744233670>want to mod smash ultimate>there are political mods too especially trans right and palestineI guess I did the right thing to give up.
>>744226904Dark Souls 1 is janky game. It has unfinished second half, and everything was improved in later entries. Its worse game than Demon Souls. Not being able to teleport between bonfires also seems cool at first but makes replaying the game a chore.
>>744205378And adding a robot with a big ass.
>>744195919This was the only Wario Land I ever played and I liked it.>>744200156This was the only Paper Mario I ever played and I liked it.
>>744243648>>744195919Such a weird take anyway, this game being the apparent worst when it does more in the art department than the others and is a great overall experience. There's no way it's any worse than the first 3 games.
