bethesda fallout is like 343 halo


corporatized licensed fan fiction made from faggots who steal shit from people who made good things

Why do all the guns have to look like ass?

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>>744217458
company is made by pussies who don't understand firearms
everyone at bethesda and amazon should just die honestly

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>>744217458
For me its only possible to play with all guns modded. Starfield is no better either, someone there needs to study guns. Even for scifi they are bad. Like wtf is the plasma rifle? Why is there a bunch of oddly placed pistons on it? Why do they insist on having exposed wires all over the shit. Goofy toy shit.

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>>744217872
Even in Starfield they do the same shit. Most of the frame is pointless weight. Exposed cables going to the stock. Random modders can do a better job, whoever is doing this crap should be fired

I like when the guns look stupid and janky because my entire personality isnt based on a cowards weapon of choice

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>>744216914
>Also, we are murdering and abducting people in the Commonwealth, but this reign of terror was necessary, because we are the good guys.
You forgot that part.

>>744217640
Unless Fallout brings back cold war era firearms and ak-47s it's not Fallout it's Bethesda Slopout

>>744218332
I dont really know what you mean by cowards weapon of choice but it sounds retarded, you're retarderd

>>744218376
fallout 4 should have the Commonwealth be a mega city surrounded by wasteland and owned by the institute instead of same old boring supermutant/nameless raider garbage with fucking nothing.

>>744218376
I dislike how you can't really have this discussion with hm. Like, "You need to stop what you're doing son, it aint right" kind of thing. I went from 50 hours of fucking around, to meeting him for the first time in the institute, did a couple of missions, then I got the beryllium thing for the brothers instead of them and shauns like "i hate you now dad, dont ever come to my institute again" and then I nuked him. Very weird pacing withotu any apportunity to say that I diapproved and give him some kind of ultimatum or something

>>744218848
Or when he puts you in charge you should be able to change the direction of their projects to soemthing else, stop the synth program. Some would rebel and you put them down, then its a new insitute with a new direction of your choice.

>>744217458
because they like to shoot the shit

>>744216914
Synth Shaun was pretty wholesome

>>744220832
Brotherhood ending is best because it's the only one where you can kill him

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>>744218201
Whats it called when the stock is connected to the grip at the bottom, its so heckin scifi

>>744220923
You can do the same in the minutemen ending

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>>744217458
Because the Bethesda aesthetic is ass, always has been always will be

>>744217235
I remember when Namco had like an entire comic site dedicated to exactly that.

>>744221034
It's a thumbhole stock, the laziest way (alongside with bullpup-ing your gun) to make a sci-fi gun-adjecent object.

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>>744221172
>Space babes

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>>744217458
Jetsons Nu-fallout artstyle its absolute shit and they obsidian needs go back to the gothic 1 to nv style again

>>744221334
Her character would be hot in any other game if you can romance her as a HAG option

>>744221334
Sarah won

>>744221425
im drunk af rn sorry for the typos

>>744221547
Go to bed

>>744221334
To the gen Xers the game was made for, I guess that would be a space babe

>>744221334
The only thing that makes this hag a win is its not Debra Wilson

>>744221334
Keep my wife's name out your fucking mouth!!!!

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>>744221631
Gen X here
No

I am so mad that the Mysterious Serum doesn't cure Shaun of his cancer. Worst plothole since Fawkes not wanting to get in the radiation.

>>744221425
>obsidian fallout
>it's 1st person action slop from The Creators of The Outer Worlds™ instead of isometric (inb4 acktually Fallout is trimetric) turn based with painted backgrounds

>>744221057
No you can't, Sturges saves him if you refuse to
In the Brotherhood ending Proctor Ingram is in Sturges's place and if you tell her that the kid's a synth she just goes "Wow, those motherfuckers"

>>744221720
gramps what are you doing out of your retirement home?

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>>744221480
No sir this is the Prime Rib option
Nothing but quality here at the Bethesda Steakhouse

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>>744221873
What are you spooks doing on my board

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>>744221334
>i'm so angry you just murdered a bunch of innocent people
>[persuade]its fine dont worry about it
>ok i'll forgive you lets go

>>744221865
>No you can't, Sturges saves him if you refuse to
If you keep insisting Sturges will eventually comply and you can leave synth Shaun to die

>>744216914
The Institute strictly does not treat synths as humans. They are tools and machines that exist to make tasks easier. A synth "Father Shawn" would be be treated at best like an Amazon Alexa device; they would never accept it as a leader.

>>744222165
Powerful face

>>744221827
not the same people
not the same game

>>744221334
Grace Ashcroft when she 40

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>>744216914
I modded my game a lot and fucked synth shota Shaun and a Deathclaw

>>744222281
>not the same people
Yes the same people.
>not the same game
Are you saying that Obsidian won't be mandated by microslop to shit out a first person action game with rpg elements?

>>744222203
>this is strictly between us but I am going to replace myself with a synth so my legacy can continue, its up to you if you tell the others or stay secret

>>744222459
Wow

>>744222459
kill you're self

>>744222597
>>744222605
she didnt got pregnant by them tho, she got pregnant by austin from vault 81

Modded Fallout 4 is the best!
It's legit a super immersive lawless world.

>>744218418
Standing out of harms way and pulling a trigger is a pretty low skill and cowardly way to fight. Compare using a gun to using a bow or sword or even hand to hand combat and youll see how theyre a cowards weapon

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>>744222459
No you didnt

>>744222727
Wow

>>744222751
ok retard

>>744216914
Such a great character. I love Emil

>>744217640
i really dont understand why they dont hire consultants who have experience with firearms, survival and huge interest in science and science fiction to give advice to these retarded devs on the game that is all about firearms, survival and a science fiction version of our own world

>>744217235
Fallout was never that good

>>744222943
>i really dont understand why they dont hire consultants who have experience with firearms
Or just go to a gun range and shoot guns. Sawyer did it for NV.

>>744217235
>343 halo
Not familiar.
Is that the one where the core group of Halo creators had nothing to do with it and a bunch of non fans where put in charge?
No split screen co-op?
Seriously,I have never played for more than a half hour.
I just remember a coworker looking forward to a Halo game and getting pissed off

>>744216914
i love how inauthentically old he looks. he looks like a young zesty guy in wrinkle makeup and dyed his hair a garish, fake white to look old. its like what a gamer likes to imagine themselves looking like when they are old, if that makes sense.

>>744222727
Isn't that the kid that got mole rat AIDS?

>>744222972
>yes they ruined it BUT IT WASN'T GOOD ANYWAY
Like pottery

>>744222972
NV was it was the proper fallout 3

>>744223096
Correct, just go play an actually good RPG like Baldur's Gate 1/2

>>744223215
Of course it's a bioware faggot. Not surprising that you have no taste.

>>744223215
what if i dont want a gay generic and uninspired fantasy setting for theatre kids?

>>744217235
I know they're a retarded company but genuinely the only reason Fallout is popular and culturally significant is because of Bethesda. Don't compare them to a company that immediately killed an incredibly popular series the minute they got control of it lmao.

>>744222751
You need to be 18 to post here.

>>744223651
okay. and? i dont need nor want fallout to be uber popular. i would have been happy if the IP landed in the hands of some backwater slavs who continued making autistic CRPG's with schizophrenic worldbuilding and design. would gladly sacrifice the existence of NV for that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJAtGLfCGQI

>>744223651
3 and turning it into a fps rpg was the only good thing bethesda has done. everything after is pure garbage

>>744224816
>3 and turning it into a fps rpg was the only good thing bethesda has done
Why? It's a bad fps and can be barely considered an rpg.

>>744224942
because it made new vegas

and if you disagree and say NV is bad you're a contrarian puritan autist and I don't care what you say

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>>744222778
I did and I don't have to prove it. It's super easy to install those mods.

>>744223081
Yus but i cured him and had Raider slut sex with him on the Vault's janitorial room. She don't give a fuck about nuffin, she is the Queen of Nuka World and only Vault 81 has her protection my raider gangs are not allowed to kill the Vault 81 residents.

>>744225042
New Vegas is good despite its format, not because of it.

>>744216914
I actually thought Fallout 4's writing was generally pretty decent until you got to Elder Maxson and this fuckass

>>744226309
The Brotherhood were the best part of Fallout 4's game and lore

>>744226309
the lore with the commonwealth being a nothing burger copy of the capital wasteland pisses me off to no end.

did people just wipe the outer worlds 1 and 2 from their minds? how can anyone think an obsidian fallout will be good

>>744226914
>did people just wipe the outer worlds 1 and 2 from their minds?
Nobody played those games so it's easy to forget about them.
>how can anyone think an obsidian fallout will be good
But is it going to be worse than no Fallout game at all? Because Bethesda surely isn't delivering a new game within the next decade.

>>744226914
It won't be, Fallout is done

>>744226914
nobody cares about Outer Worlds people barely mod them too

>>744226914
low chance but saywer is actually in charge and theres been a restructuring of the company since the outer slop games

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>>744216914
>FEV cures all diseases
>and the Institute can make a cure for super mutants
>guess ill just die.jpg

>>744228118
>>and the Institute can make a cure for super mutants
they dont know this, they exiled the only doc that knows how to make these and he only makes 1 for himself and fucks off.
And his laser rifle sucks.

>However we do have a technology that can make an exact copy of me that can take my place and seamlessly continue to lead after my passing.
On that note, would the Institute inevitably allow themselves to be ruled, maybe even be completely replaced by Synths themselves, or are they hypocrites?

>>744228118
>the Institute can make a cure for super mutants
They can make a cure for the one specific strain they used in their experiments and even then there were some conditions limiting it.

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>>744228509
No, there is no hypocrisy. Tehcnically yes Shaun could make a Synth clone of himself and this Synth just replicates forever to rule the institute.

Idk if he would be into it, if he hasn't done it, it means that no he is not.

nobody in Bethesda wrote anything about this plot hole. Frm what I understand The Institute are human supremacists but from Reddit University only, aka they only like other eggheads. Who the fuck knows how Dr. Li got in there.

>>744226442
the brotherhood is literally just the institute in reverse
which is, of course, why the institute sucks even bigger ass than the BOS do
that said, maxson in FO4 is the biggest brotherhood douche in the whole franchise, and that's including the tv show

>>744229286
Maxon was a well mannered kid back in FO3 what happen did a modded futa character rape him in the ass and he grew up all angry with anal hemorrhoids?

>>744229647
signs point to him being an arrogant prick who resented not being in consideration for future leader of the Brotherhood in the CW despite his namesake (sort of like Mordred desiring the kingship from Arthur) and orchestrating the deaths of the Lyons and the ouster of their supporters by employing the Outcasts to liquidate them
it was a coup plain and simple

>>744229764
desu I like the Outcasts so holy shit based Maxon. Fuck the Lyons. Yes, even Sarah, she is cute but fuck her put a raider explosive collar on her and rape her.

>>744229831
>I'm a raider and I believe the Brotherhood of Steel should be raiders
well, you are illustrating why the Brotherhood were portrayed as bad guys everywhere outside of 3

>>744229901
yeah it makes them more complex. They are often the good guys btw. Heroic for Anti-Hero reasons. Through pretty much all the games.

The BoS is basically like Israel. They only care about themselves but sometimes they have mutual enemies that are obviously bad like Super Mutants.

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>>744217872
>>744217458
>implying its just guns

>>744229974
>Fallout 1 BOS: we kill random people and take their technology
>Fallout 2 BOS: we kill random people and take their technology
>Fallout Tactics BOS: we kill random people and take their technology but you play as us so it's all right
>Fallout Brotherhood of Steel BOS: we kill random people and take their technology but you play as us so it's all right
>Fallout 3 BOS: we save random people and give technology to them (lyons), we kill random people and take their technology (outcasts)
>Fallout New Vegas BOS: we want to kill random people and take their technology but the NCR and House beat us up ;(((((
>Fallout 4 BOS: we kill ourselves for being technology
>Fallout TV BOS: we kill ourselves and children because we're retarded non-whites

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>>744230073
THE TOILETNAITOR!

>>744230150
>>Fallout 1 BOS: we kill random people and take their technology
manipulate random people to go on a suicide mission into the glow to retrieve technology for them, also there is some mutants up north and they are scary lets kill them while they are not that big

>>Fallout 2 BOS: we kill random people and take their technology
lets send people (the chosen one and his companions) into the Enclave rig to retrieve us technology, they are also not as big so lets kill them before they get more power

>>>Fallout Tactics BOS: we kill random people and take their technology but you play as us so it's all right
didnt play this but here is a chatbot telling me ur wrong:
Your chapter begins as an expedition sent east from California. After a disastrous airship crash, the survivors are forced to adapt to the Midwest.

Over time, they:

Protect settlements from raiders and mutants.
Recruit outsiders (which the original Brotherhood rarely did).
Accept ghouls, super mutants, and even intelligent deathclaws into their ranks if they're loyal.
Build an actual nation rather than remaining isolated in bunkers.
Fight major threats like raiders, slavers, beastlords, and robots.
Are they the good guys?

Mostly yes.

Point is in most games they are indeed by circumstance the good guys, except in FO: NV

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>>744216914
It just works.

BOS, Caps, Supermutants, FEV, enclave,

shouldn't be in every game, bethesda can't make anything new or interesting just slop from older better games

>>744221334
>Delphine
>Desdemona
>Sarah
Emil has a type.

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>>744231194
Bethesda made the amazing Faction called:
The Institute and its opponent: The Railroad dude
what more do you want

Its a masterpiece of writing!

The railroad want to liberate some toasters and then explode the toaster production factory so they have nothing to do afterwards and the commonwealth can get dominated by my Nuka World Raiders.

>Minutemen = cooked
>BoS = foreigners that dont care about anything other than tech and to destroy the institute because they fear their superior capacity
>Institute = smart but some how retards that have too much trust on a foreigner just because its related to their director
>Railroad = extreme retards that think toasters are human because they can mimic realistic feelings o algo

Why should I as a Nuka World Raider not support the Railroad? They have no plan for the future they are fucking stupid and they want to destroy the competition lol.

I want an eternal supply of Commonwealth sex slaves. This is Including enslaving them when I'm done with their faction quests. Desdemona is too old to be a breeding sow but she is fuck meat for my raiders.

Bethesda has never made a good fallout game and if Microsoft was actually competent they would have handed the IP off day one of the buyout

>>744231756
They have the biggest modding communities by far why wouldnt Microindian wouldnt have them bought. It makes perfect sense.
Their games have a fk ton of computer gamers that use Windows.

>>744226914
People dont care about fallout being good they care about it being not bethesda. If tomorrow it was revealed that the fighters guild questline in skyrim was actually secretly made by a third party developer and bethesda never had a hand in it, there would be a thousand posts of people praising its quality writing and claiming that they knew it couldnt have been a product of john or casey or todd.

>>744231885
Jesus christ learn english anon

>>744226914
I don't care because the bar set by bethesda fallout is underground anyway

>>744232096
im bette that pewdepie!!!

>>744231072
They are not good in Fallout 1. They barely help at all

>>744218848
You wouldn't get it.

>>744228118
He can maybe cure the specific strain affecting him and even he says it might not quite work.

>>744232227
>gibs u power armor
>tells u the location of mariposa military base

they help

>>744232227
They also do their darndest to get the PC killed because they just want him to go away

>>744232471
Yeah after the send you to a radioactive death trap in the hopes it will just kill you

>>744232491
after you earn their trust by successfully completing The Glow mission they actually train you up, let you pick up a power armor for free, and you can convince them to send military support to assault Mariposa.

2 BoS knights come in to storm the base with you.

their scribes come up with the theory that Mutants are in fact infertile so you can convince the Master to off himself because his plan is not gonna work out like he envisions it. It's not a master race because it has no continuity.

>>744230073
i wonder how the fuck they thought it was a good idea

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>>744230073
>make special snowflake retcon t60 armor for fallout 4
>it looks worse than t51 AND t45
everything in f4 is so damn ugly

>>744232870
i think they hate t-51 because it's not their design and its the 2nd coolest behind the original Enclave armor which also isn't theirs. Notice how they shit on the original PA so they can insert their uninspired ones

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>>744216914
>stops horse
>Diamond City. The Great Green Jewel of the Commonwealth

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>>744231072
>they help stop the master's mutant army
EXCUSE ME?

>>744232870
I thought T60 was what the dudes were wearing in Fallout 3?

>>744233375
They can help you attack Mariposa.

>>744233375
They send 2 Paladins with you if you convince the Elder
The BoS is literally always circumstantially good except in New Vegas. There is always a way to convince them to do good.

>>744216914
Him saying cancer is uncurable is bullshit. FEV explicitly fixes EVERYTHING in your body.
And as a pure human, the FEV should have no effect on his intelligence.

>>744232870
The stupidest thing about T-60 is they could have easily explained it as the Brotherhood making it after Fallout 3. I'm also surprised Advanced Power Armor MK 2 and Hellfire armor didn't appear in the game at all.

>>744233037
Way better than Megaton
but it is also technically governed by a Raider Gang which I like. The Diamond City Guards are Raider Vets that ditched their old gangs long ago.

>>744232638
They nice to you after you complete a certain death mission to become one of them, and help with mariposa if you can convince them the mutants are a serious threat to the brotherhood. There's not a single thing they do for any kind of altruistic purpose.

As far as wasteland factions go they're pretty chill though, like they don't raid caravans or shoot you on sight or anything, even though no one at the time of Fallout 1 could do anything to oppose them.

>>744231941
Funny cope.

>>744233843
They are anti-heroes yes thats what I said at the start but they are mostly good because they do put their resources very often in most of the games into the effort of stopping the Big Bad of the setting.

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God Bless America
God Bless The Enclave

>>744233696
>There is always a way to convince them to do good.
except FO4 but then again that's a good argument against 4

>>744234090
Genociding roboniggers is good.

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>>744233756
t45 debuted in f3
t60 in f4

t60 looks worse than t45, just wtf is this

>>744234126
statistically they kill about 45 non-institute non-raider humans for every synth

>>744234128 meant for >>744233478

>>744218848
>Institute clearly has the resources to improve Boston's livelihood
>your only options are join your son and keep kidnapping people or nuke the most technologically advanced facility Boston has for 100+ miles
The whole game is just stupid. The fact they try to push an anti war message at the end just proves this current generation of adults get their morality check from the bully who kept shoving them into lockers when they were little.

>>744234286
>Institute clearly has the resources to improve Boston's livelihood
why would they? they're amoral technocrats, scientists haven't had the good of mankind in their minds since Nikola Tesla, just look at any academic egghead in the real world - give them a literal ivory tower and a complete lack of accountability and see how long it would take for them to genocide the world of anyone they deem stupider than they are

>>744233971
based, what mod?

>>744233037
>200 years later and no one can figure out to pick up a broom.

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>>744234168
Statistically they kill themselves because they are incredibly retarded Vertibird pilots. All you see when the BoS arrives is Helicopters getting mowed down by Raiders, Mutants and by their own flying skills.

>>744234526
My point is more the PC could've been given the option to take the place over used the Institute to benefit the Commonwealth instead of adding MORE nuclear radiation to the air.

>>744234128
My head canon is that t60 is a modification made by the BoS of the t45, but to Bethesda it is not.

It would be cool if there is a mod that made the armor spawn only on BoS members.

>>744234724
why clean up if it will rain and mess up everything again. I'll do it tomorrow.

>>744233037
>>744234724
My favorite part of Diamond City is that quest where you go to Kellog's house. Valentine's secretary warns you about "that part of town". It's hyped up to be a slum but when you go it's just a narrow walkway and his house is the only thing there.

>>744234913
and the nearest enterable building is the school

>>744223215
Bg1 and 2 and fallout 1 and 2 are good games play them and yes fallout was that good

>>744235147
The school that has a heavy ass school bus on top that nobody explains how it got there and why it's not collapsing the whole house with it's weight.
But hey there is a lunch box in there and some jet.

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>>744235315
I noticed that in a recent playthorugh, somewhow escaped my attention before.

I also noticed one of the upper shacks has a pool with a boat in it

>>744217235
fpbp

>>744235507
The Diamond City Rich People are a joke lol.
>omg look at those poorfags hohohohohohoho
>they live in a shithole house that is slightly bigger
>they got rich due to some drug trade long ago connected with the hotel in Goodneighbor
>they dont do anything anymore they are just wasting lavishly all that drug trade wealth until it runs out

>>744216914
Fallout 4's greatest failure is not having each faction change the story. If you sided with the Brotherhood the Institute should have only been cyborgs, replacing humanity for evil. If you joined the Railroad, the Institute should have been only humans seeking to better the lives of the wastelanders. The story itself should have been different depending on your allegiance.

>>744223026
>>744222943
because that would mean hiring white men, and that’s icky

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>>744235507
This shack here, makes no sense

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>>744235864
I killed that ex drug dealer nigga and his wanna be drug dealer son. And I lied to him that i didnt kill his son, then I shanked him in his sleep in this pool house. I put the corpse under the boat so nobody notices.

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I been playin it recently, I made a death tower that drops caged raiders down a shaft into a mod machine that butchers them into meat and bones, then sends it up conveyor elevators to drop all the bits into a big room to fill it up with bodyparts. But it started glitching out graphically when there were too many so I had to clear it out a bit

Bethesda were obsessed with the idea of making "morally grey" factions so they didn't stop to consider if they actually made sense.

>>744233037
Bethesda really doesn't understand the concept of linear time and the scale of two centuries. There's banner in Concord, a flimsy plastic looking banner that has been hanging between buildings for 200 years. If you just pretend the bombs fell like five years ago the entire design aesthetic makes a lot more sense; it doesn't fuck absolutely fucking stupid shit like that lady in the diner that "lives" there and has shit like skeletons in the booths of her "store" and never once does anything about them but it's really clear that Bethesda has no interest in exploring actual post-apocalyptic concepts outside of rusted sheet metal and piles of trash.

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>>744236268
or you can install sex mods and the handcuffs mod and the slavery mod to rape them and make them breed.

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/23794-human-resources-alternative-enslavement-method/

>>744235864
there is so much wasted space in diamond city; it really should have been basically Kowloon Walled city growing up from the center of the stadium instead of whatever stupid flavela Bethesda thought was cool

>>744216914
Adding teleportation into Fallout was almost as dumb as making it a woke TV show. Series died with Fallout 4.

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>>744236405
If the city made sense they would have used the space in the center for the water plant by digging a hole, the spaces around to grow crops, and the interior walls for living space.

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as it is , is bad but not thaat bad. its just that architecturally it makes no sense and their power source is the noodles.

Why was Shaun replacing humans with synths?

Why did he even create synths at all? If he wanted manual labor he could just make robots, or stick to the Gen 2 Synths

Why was the Institute creating Supermutants and releasing them to the surface?

If Shaun wanted you to find him why did he never bother sending anyone to help you, why do you need to rely on Dogmeat sniffing a weeks-old cigar to track Kellogg across the wastes, why did he never try to retrieve you for over 60 years

If the Institute kept you alive because “you’re the backup” why did they kill everyone else in the vault? Having more samples of non-irradiated DNA should still be useful

If synths don’t need to eat or sleep why does Curie mention being hungry and sleepy after being turned into a synth? Also wouldn’t that be an obvious giveaway that someone is a synth

If synths do need to eat and sleep why does the synth Roger Warwick not need to sleep? Why don’t synths gain weight? What even is a synth, is it supposed to be more like a robot or a human with a brain chip?

If Kellogg was kept alive for 60 years through cybernetics then why does no one else in the entire wasteland or in the Institute have these cybernetics? If Shaun cancelled the program, Kellogg looks near identical to when he captured baby Shaun so those cybernetics must have been available for decades

Why did Shaun deliberately create a child synth version of himself to fake you out with? Did he read the script and realize he needed to do this to introduce a dramatic reveal of the twist?

Is Codsworth sentient? He cracks jokes and has opinions like a sentient being. What about Curie, she was a robot transplanted into a synth body. So was she actually sentient all along? If the robots are all sentient does that mean that they’re basically glorified slaves in the Fallout universe and killing them is tantamount to murder?

>>744236371
no i dont want to do that i wanted to fill a big box with bones and meat

>>744222972
>Fallout was never that good
Interplay Fallout has a bad combat system and isn't nearly as good at offering real choices as its fans seem to believe, but it's still worlds ahead of Bethesda's garbage

>>744236759
Just build a fort and do radiant quests bro.

A synth is organic so they should need to eat. It shows them being created in the institute - it builds a skeleton, then injects muscle onto it and then pumps it full of fluids and dips it in the blood pool then it comes out fully formed with pants on and the ability to walk and speak from creation

>>744236621
well of course
you can see from outside that it's not all being shored up or anything and there are all kinds of weak points and unused spaces; the interior (after the (in the space of time between the birth of the united states and the moon landing) still has seats covering immense amounts of unused space while they have bizarre, teratalogical metal shacks growing out of each other for some reason
power is apparently not a concern since they run all their stadium lights all night every single night (and not once have any of those bulbs burnt out in 200 years) and they have enough of a need to have a functioning detective agency and a "science lab" but not like a place manufacture or repair things

bethesda doesn't understand how societies and civilizations operate so it's even more embarrassing when you see them try to address issues people had with FO3 and still fuck it up

>>744236759
The Synth thing is an ongoing project of the Boston University that it never got finished due to the Great War. Shaun just completed it.

Why did those guys at the university wanted this idk but its a bit realistic that it can be just for curiosity to see how far you can push AI.

>Why was the Institute creating Supermutants and releasing them to the surface?
idk maybe they never seen them before and thought they could be controlled or whatever. My head canon is that 80% of the mutants in Boston are from the Capital Wasteland Vault 88 squads + Washington DC

I installed a mod to have them there. And they are way harder because they also got perma invisible Nightkin fags

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/49680

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I've actually never had to eat or sleep. Not sure why. You guys think there's something different about me?

>>744237019
DO NOT ID THIS PIC HOLY FUUUUUUUUCK

>>744236969
Megaton made less sense it was powered up with that Airplane Turbine you see outside of it. Dont worry about it.

>>744237102
>This is an image of the "Sad Frog" variation of the Pepe the Frog internet meme.Created by artist Matt Furie in 2005, the character originally appeared in the comic Boy's Club.While popular for years as a general reaction image, the meme was designated as a hate symbol by the Anti-Defamation League in 2016 after being adopted by white supremacists and alt-right groups.

>>744237184
THE STENOGRAPHY OF THE PIC YOU FUCKING RETARD
LOOK BEHIND PEPE'S HEAD AND NOTICE THAT LITTLE LINE? DO NOT ID THIS SHIT

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>>744237245
What do you mean by ID it

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>>744237245
DOCTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS

what does the brotherhood do in fallout 2? i can't remember them from that game.

Playing as a Raider with the Alternate Start mod is so fun.

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/56984?tab=videos

Enslaving everyone and raping them been fun.

>>744237416
It's a couple of guys in a bunker and they help you.

>>744237425
I prefer the Enclave but the nuka world raiders make for a good auxiliary force I can use to brutalize my serfs

>>744237416
I think they repair a vertibird to fly to the oil rig to let your "chosen one" continue with his mission to kill the Enclave.

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>>744237471
Let me guess. Gunners and Pack? Nobody likes The Deciples.

>Be Nisha
>You have to side with me Overboss because if you dont I will fucking kill you
>Ok, sure thing bitch
>*never give her any territory*
>Betrays you
>put a bullet on her forehead

I like Dixie she cute. The Deciples get in the way for anything. They think they are the boss.

At least she dies happy, which goes with her sociopathic personallity. They are basically the Dark Brotherhood of Fallout. I wish I could have made her a murder sexbot slave or something. Oh well.

>>744217640
>who don't understand firearms
The reverse bullpup combat shotgun was impressive in its retardation.

>>744237713
Operators and Disciples funny enough heh. I turned my disciples into my brutal terror force that carries out assassinations and puts down rebellion. They love me with all the tech I provide them. And the pack smells bad

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>>744216914

I have at least 1 "cool" Fallout 4 criticism and it's basically:

The Minutemen and Gunners should have been the two 'obligate' factions to pick from with the same purpose, different methods/ideology, duality like they had already practiced in Skyrim. The Minutemen are the democratic, agrarian, colonist-style, faction trying to recreate the same "13 colony" style government Washington envisioned about America being a farmer-lead nation - or something like it. Gunners on the other hand could have been something resembling a strong, industrialist, authoritarian, military government. The Minutemen could have the advantage of being well-liked by their members, possess superior food production and numbers, but are otherwise horribly unorganized, zero discipline weak-piss-ant peasants. The Gunners could have the opposite advantage where they're more organized and excel at production but civilians dislike them because they have a corvee/tributary system.

From there the game should have been about colonizing and civilizing the commonwealth, capturing & rebuilding infrastructure, the different ways to go about it, and trying to cooperate or anihilate the other factions.
Instead of it just being an afterthought seemingly thrown in at the tail end of development. It should have been a core fucking mechanic - we should have been out here rebuilding STEEL MILLS and HOSPITALS and ROADS, establishing an ECONOMY, not fighting endlessly respawing Super Mutant camps.

>>744237864
Yeah, that makes slightly more sense for the Enclave, they wouldn't like the Pack they are too primitive. But the Deciples are going to plot your murder some day. They are literally the least loyal, Nisha literally opens up her justification for why you should side with them by death threatening you. They worship death and if you enter their mountain it hints that they enjoy filming snuff videos.

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At least you can mod the guns
I don't give a shit about "lore-friendly" I can build nuclear reactors so why not renovate a decent weapon found in a crate somewhere

>>744238264
I don't like overly tacticool shit I feel like it doesn't fit Fallout a lot. Even tho yea I know Fallout Tactics had a lot of tacticool 80s guns. And New Vegas has the All-American.

I like when Fallouts have superior Energy Weapons than Ballistic Weapons.
Like Fallout 1, 2, 3 (The Metal Blaster is the best weapon in the entire game by far 8 lasers, all of them crit, same range as a normal laser rifle so it can snipe and it has low recoil).

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>if you install Fallout 4 now you get a clusterfuck almost 20 different, weird DLC shits forced upon you

>>744216914
why couldn't he make a synth body and transplant his brain into it?
if some wasteland shmuck can do it to robots while larping as the mechanist, and other morons in the big MT can put them into flying jars, why couldn't the Institute do it?

>>744238505
Disable them, ninny. I remove the pre order shit in NV, I do it for 4.

>>744216914
Emil is a fucking retarded writer how many times must this be rehashed?

>>744237904
So new vegas

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>Why are you replacing random people with synth copies?
>"uhhh, its complicated. you woudlnt understand. But we do have good intentions!"
>Why are you releasing supermutants?
>"uuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......"

>>744238223
My guy hopes to appease the disciples long enough that they start to worship him as a god of death or some shit. Of course this is after controlling the Institute and remaking himself as a sort of god on earth.

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I was frozen in a vault for one reason
to bring Law to the Lawless

I kill all raiders and scumbags
>raiders = raiders
kill on sight
>gunners = raiders
kill on sight
>rust devils = raiders
kill on sight
>trappers = raiders
kill on sight
>nuka-world = raiders
kill on sight
>triggermen = raiders
kill on sight
>ghouls = raiders
kill on sight
>bugs = raiders
kill on sight
>mutants = raiders
kill on sight
>robots = raiders
kill on sight
>brotherhood = raiders
kill on sight
>institute = raiders
kill on sight

the penalty for inhumanity towards your fellow man is death
justice is coming

>>744239372
>why are you releasing supermutants
they were experimenting with FEV and failed experiments were thrown out to the wasteland like garbage
>why experiment with FEV.
I forget. Something to do with surviving the wastes, but they never leave the Institute.

>>744238698
It doesn't work. The Robobrains are not the personality of the guys they took the brains from. Altho the Robobrain project took brains mostly from literal murderers, thieves, sociopaths, etc to make them function.

But yea it doesn't work. Their personalities depend on their programming.

>>744240673
some robobrains are actual brains in a jar, not wetware processors for combat routines - especially within Fallout 4 which has a quest about precisely this in Far Harbor

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>>744239372
Based Native Americans. Thats why I supported The Pack the most tribal raiders in FO4 lead by an Aryan Chad but meathead retard and I let them rape all the slave girls I could gather.

Exactly like Native Americans would have done back in the day when those lands were theirs. >See other tribe
>Murder it and rape the women

Long Live Nuka World

>>744237841
dont slander the ppsh shotgun. its atleast a sexy gun, with a kickass sound effect. unlike fo4's bullshit.

>>744217235
>bethesda fallout is like 343 halo
that's the perfect comparison, I'm going to be using this from now on

>>744240237
>I forget. Something to do with surviving the wastes, but they never leave the Institute.
Kellogs Mr. Cornflakes is their outside operative. He is a cyborg.

>>744234128
Similar to what other anons said
The T60 should of just been refurbished T45s that were made lighter and more agile for mobile infantry at the cost of armor.

>>744240937
>We invented cyborg implants that can extend human life to over a hundred years, and do cool shit like give you a robot arm and other things.
>But you cant have it because.........BECAUSE YOU JUST CANT OKAY!!

>NO WE WONT GIVE YOU THE IMPLANTS FROM F1, F2, AND NV EITHER

>>744239372
when will they acknowledge the fact that guns are present which are tools that have been used to threaten, oppress and murder POC folx? do better.

I wonder if oldfags knew deep in their hearts fallout threads would get this shitty
https://old.sage.moe/v/search/text/fallout/order/asc/

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>>744240830
FO4 shot guns are exactly the same but the loading mag is in the center.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Justice
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Le_Fusil_Terribles

>>744241145
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/8900
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/96194

>>744240770
You are rite
I forgot that detail.

>>744237904
Bethesda took the "raiders are basically just mindless zombies that all look the same" thing to heart by making another completely and immediately hostile group act exactly like raiders but they look like military dudes. It feels like there's a few people at Beth who want to make a more interesting game and then someone comes in and quashes all the ideas until you end up with shit like the Gunners.

I'm tired of fixing todds games for him. If we're going to talk about them its as they are, not "oh well you can mod that". It released with the worst looking dumbest shittiest guns in any game and plotholes like swiss cheese and if those fuckin brahmin go on a roof again they are getting shot

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*KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK*

*BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG*

>>744242073
>A MOMENT PLEASE!
>*UNINSTALLS ALL THE LOLI AND SHOTA MODS*

>>744225404
How did you get the shota mod?

>>744217235
Well.. Not THAT bad. Bethesda makes good exploration games at least, and they do rape and trivialise the source material less

>>744218201
The most boring uninspired crap i ever seen.

>>744237904
Yeah sorry no fun allowed pal

>>744242689
>>744218201
I like the function of those guns they are basically metal storm firing a square array of bullets but they look like retarded fucking junk

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>>744238839
holy

>>744225404
Everything about this game now triggers some kind of PTSD flashback, thats not a good thing

>>744240167
>minutemen = raiders

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>>744242584
All Da Fallen CoTC mod
And for NV and FO3 its just the shojo mod

>>744223026
well i mean tbf Sawyer was a gun autist even before he worked on NV

>>744227095
I played 1. It was hammy and outlived its welcome. The fact that somebody greenlit a sequel was an atrocity, knowing full well it would be a duplicate with nothing fr

>>744242898
>minutemen = RETARDS
FYI

>>744230073
>armor of le future
>is completely retarded
Checks out

>>744242949
The story is good at least. The gameplay is indeed super dated. You are just rolling dice with your build statistics and Agility is obviously the best stat.

>>744232227
Nah they were just.. there. Makes sense military outcasts would be so secular, its a wonder they accepted an outsider into their midst at all

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>>744235864
None of it does. Bethesda should stick to making dungeons and leave world building to somebody else

Fallout = troon coded
TES = chud coded

>>744236268
>least unhinged fallout 4 playthrough

>>744236732
Theres so many rooms and areas in that stadium which are literally untouched. Stupid. Lockers rooms, changing rooms, showers, bathrooms, etc. so cramped. No sense of space anywhere

>>744236759
You asked more questions about it than the devs did when making it. If anything its a blessing they made so few games after skyrim.

>>744217235
F4, 76 and Amazon? Yes
F3? Nah.
F3 was a solid base and they could've done better things for future Fallout games, especially in the writing department (the DLCs were a good example of better writing from Bethesda, especially The Pitt). But of course we know that didn't happened.

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>>744243256
blood for the blood god
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKJXG6WGIsQ

>>744238462
The modding felt fun but the art was bad for the most part. Not cohesive. Mods didn’t help

>>744243375
The original purpose was quite sane, you need bone for cutting fluid for oil at the chem station. So I thought what if i could just make bones out of people. Then it escalated into trying to fill the generator room with chunks of meat and bones by repeatedly sacrificing raiders into the machine. At about halfway full, every time I turned all the graphics glitched out like warping in some weird way

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>>744243432
>Not playing as a raider in the game where you get to control nuka world
faggot
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/48944

>>744243520
That dagger Nisha gives you there is retarded strong. You can literally sneak stab Super Mutant Behemoths and kill them in 1 hit.

>>744243095
The story is hackneyed ‘corporations bad’ drawn out over 30 hours +. Its old and recyled, the culture is rick and morty meets hitchhikers guide and whilst that sounds novel it doesn’t bring anything new to the table because the way its handled is absolutely ‘safe’ sterile and boring like the very corporations it claims to detest so much. ‘Quirky science guy locked in lab’ is the most interesting character, and even that got old fast. Nothing of significance happens after leaving the tutorial world, playing that game felt like enduring a long drawn out fart waiting for it to end, but never does.

>>744243695
Nuka World was such a fucking waste. Instead of adding a new main story path as a raider, all it does is lock off the minuteman path while the other dipshits of the wastes are more than happy to work with you. The most likely unintended hilarity that stems from you working with the railroad isn't enough.
>no way in
Make one of the slavers or slaves a science nerd. Problem solved. No less contrived than Sturges and Goggles being wasteland science rats who can hack their way in.
One of the raiders being destined to betray you no matter what was also a waste. I always kill either queen edgelord or king furfag.

>>744243695
>implying I played the bethslop enough to traverse to the DLC areas
Not the faggot here amigo
>>744243657
Makes sense, I just went out looking for it, a couple dungeons had respawning enemies. After a while it just feels like an MMO with all the grinding I was doing

>>744236759
The game was obviously made as a single-player Rust clone first, then they shat out a story afterwards.

>>744243881
there is zero "corporations bad" messaging in Fallout 1.
Just "Military Experiments bad"

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>>744243949
Just do the Railroad they are the most retarded faction for the Commonwealth. Which in turn helps the Raiders get shit done because they destroy their main competition: The Institute and The Brotherhood and both kill Raiders.

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>>744230073
My glorious porcelain throne armor. Shat and pissed on 1 million times by the best scientists within the Institute. Street shitting wastelanders will never understand.

>>744216914
>Fallout fans require teletubby storytelling to Under anything
I'm not really surprised. Fallout fans are among the dumbest and most brainless of fanbases. Fallout fans really can't count 1+1 together.
>The institute consider synth to be the equivalent of robots and treat them like slaves
I played fallout 4 once a decade ago and understood that. What makes fallout fans so incredibly stupid that they can't understand the most simple of storytelling?

>>744244981
Notice how I was talking about Outer Worlds not fallout 1 specifically? None of what I said applies to fallout, excepting maybe vault tec, but thats by design and handled intricately well that it establishes urban and moral decay even in the post apocalypse

>>744218418
He's saying guns are for pussies, you retarded piece of shit.

>>744246045
No. I didnt notice my b.

>>744243501
This. Fallout 3 was a good first attempt and Bethesda could have learned from both 3 and NV to make a great Fallout RPG in the future. Instead, they've given us nothing but slop like Fallout 4 and 76 or have approved of slop like the TV show since.

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>Fallout 3
>Shojo Mod
>It's gaming time

>>744232870
t51b is my fav armor by looks alone, its viable for the entire game in FO4 because even tho it cannot get defenses as high as the enclave armors they still give a fuck ton of defense and they cost almost nothing to repair, i think you only need steel, which is everywhere.

>>744246361
Yeah. NV was of the perfect example of what you could do with the F3 formula.
Shame we never got the NV equivalent for TES, Obsidian were on board with the idea but Bethesda said no, bunch of pricks.

>>744225404
tranny coded character

>>744247653
She is a Raider, has a vagina, not a futa.

>>744246361
>Bethesda could have learned from both 3 and NV to make a great Fallout RPG in the future.
Fallout 4 directly incorporates many of the changes people asked for/made mods for in Fo3 and NV.

>>744229974
>NV BoS
"Hey, let's send Elijah and a hundreds of guys to Mojave to capture power plants (they didn't know about ARCHIMEDES yet) and to politically exile him because he's an retard!"

They couldn't even be bothered to send people to the Divide pre-nuke to disarm the nukes.

So much for their "safeguarding dangerous technology" motto.

>>744236759
>Why was Shaun replacing humans with synths?
A number of reasons
1. Taking control of settlements
2. Spying on areas of anti-Institute sentiment
3. Performing experiments on the surface.

>Why did he even create synths at all?
Shaun did not make the Gen 3's. Gen 3s were in development and being produced for DECADES before he took over. Also, the pre war robots, and Gen 2's, fucking suck at their jobs.

>Why was the Institute creating Supermutants and releasing them to the surface?
Super mutants are the result of the FEV experiments used to make new strains of FEV for synth production. Releasing them on the surface gives surfacers an enemy to fight that isn't the Institute.

>If Shaun wanted you to find him...
Shaun explains this in dialogue and on his computer. He didn't send anyone to pick you up.help you because he wanted to see if you cared enough about him to try to find him on your own, and what kind of person you were. Sending someone to directly help you would taint the observation. Also he only released you after he found out he was dying of cancer since it caused him to look back on his life and realize he regretted not knowing his parents.

>If the Institute kept you alive because “you’re the backup”...
No one else in the Vault was a usable backup since none of them were related to Shaun.

>If synths don’t need to eat or sleep...
Synths not NEEDING to eat and sleep doesn't mean synths are incapable of eating or sleeping, or being programmed to feel like they need to in order to maintain their cover on surface operations

>What even is a synth, is it supposed to be more like a robot or a human with a brain chip?
They are FEV grown organic robots with a brain chip that allows the Institute to update and reprogram them.

>If Kellogg was kept alive for 60 years through cybernetics...
Shaun canned the project. the cybernetics were still high experimental.

>>744248372
>>744236759
>Why did Shaun deliberately create a child synth version of himself to fake you out with?
Because Shaun was an elderly man dying of cancer who regretted the fact that he never knew his parents, and that his parents never got the chance to experience his childhood. The synth Shaun was a misguided attempted by Shaun to give his surviving parent some semblance of the childhood you missed out on.

>Is Codsworth sentient?
200+ years of being on has made him close to it, we see this with several robots across the Fallout franchise.

Fallout 4 is poorly written but all of these questions read like you either never played the game, are just unable to understand what is told to you, or are just making up dumb questions to create an artificial "gotcha!" moment

>>744248372
Aint Harkness from Fallout 3 in Rivert City a Gen 3 post-Shaun becoming director?

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>>744217458
I feel like in fallout 76 they tried to correct by adding stuff like the LMG, the pump action shotgun and the .50 cal machine gun all being based on actual guns but they didn't go far enough

>>744248478
We don't know when Shaun became director, or when Harkness was made, so its impossible to know.

>>744241145
>But you cant have it because.........BECAUSE YOU JUST CANT OKAY!!
Shaun didn't like the cyborg program becuase the guy running it was trying to turn people into quasi immortal monsters, and Shaun didn't agree that was the future of humanity. Fallout has regularly shown that attempts at immortality always lead to issues.

>>744238698
>why couldn't he make a synth body and transplant his brain into it?
He could. Shaun outright admits there were ways they could've kept them alive, he just didn't agree with them. Same reason why he shut down the cyborg program.

Also, putting people into brain jars just leads to massive mental decay. House points this out himself in NV.

>>744248653
Not being ok with cyborg implants to extend lifespan is straight up retarded and genuinely evil, evil in a very stupid way

>>744236970
Shaun did not complete the synth program. The synth program was completed when Shaun was still an infant. the first Gen 3 synths appeared on the surface like two years after he was taken from Vault 111. He was still an infant when Gen 3's were made.

>>744248704
Yeah but the Gen 3s were made because of his dna

>>744234286
>Institute clearly has the resources to improve Boston's livelihood
>your only options are join your son and keep kidnapping people or nuke the most technologically advanced facility Boston has for 100+ miles
The reason why they don't use their tech to improve Boston is that they spent 4 years trying to work with the CPG to help form a government in the Commonwealth, the CPG collapsed(surfacers blame it on the Institute, records in the Institute indicate it was collapsing before they got involved , and they were trying to save it). After the surfacers blamed them for it, they basically went "fuck you then" and hid underground.

The whole point f the surface vs Institute conflict is that its self perpetuating because both sides can't move past their biases and preconceived notions. A pretty common theme in Fallout.

>>744221547
Get off the phone and go back to enjoying your time at the lgbt bar

>>744233740
Shaun was only a pure human shortly after he came out of the Vault. the Institue says the reason why they had to kidnap Shaun is that the Institue itself is not 100% secure from all the radiation on the surface, which is why no one in the Institute could be used for the Gen 3 project. Shaun got cancer from the radiation. He was no longer a pure human at that point.

>>744248751
Yeah, but Shaun himself did not "complete" the program. He didn't give the order to make Gen 3's, he didn't start production of Gen 3's. He didn't start the whole thing of Gen 3's replacing people.

>>744248445
Does the Brotherhood "murder" synth kid shaun or not
I cannot remember

>>744249000
its one of the only synths you can convince them to spare i think

>>744248506
>the pump action shotgun
do you still load the entire tube even if you fire only once

>>744228997
>Who the fuck knows how Dr. Li got in there.
Its mentioned in Broken Steel in Fallout 3 that Li went north, and we see the institute recruit outsiders who are considered smart enough during Fo4's Institute questline.

>>744249034
imagine the awkwardness when Synth Shaun asks for a grown up body since you deleted the faction that can do the swap.

>>744248372
>He didn't send anyone to pick you up.help you because he wanted to see if you cared enough about him to try to find him on your own
>I'll let my sole living parent crawl out of the vault and find their way to me and hopefully not die horribly to the many dangers in the wasteland that my organization does nothing to stop just to see if they still care about finding me their long lost son who was kidnapped in front of them as a baby

>Releasing them on the surface gives surfacers an enemy to fight that isn't the Institute.
Which contradicts their deploying synths to "take over" settlements. Why would you create monsters to kill people when there's already a tiny amount of humans left in the fucking city?

>>744248832
>The whole point f the surface vs Institute conflict is that its self perpetuating because both sides can't move past their biases and preconceived notions.
When one side is needlessly kidnapping people, replacing them with synths and creating super mutants who kill and eat humans and the other are just...scared of them for doing so then it's a pretty fucking one sided conflict.

>>744249114
I would just drown him in the Yangtze

>>744248883
Shaun was in a little sealed pod when he was transported you fucking retard.
They didn't just carry him into the wasteland exposed to the air.

>>744249069
Why did they even bother bringing back Li for 4? I mean F3 was extremely short likeable characters but Li didn't really do much and she was just a sour faced cunt the whole time. Moira would've been a better option.

>>744219167
They pretty clearly explain to you that the "director" is not really the leader of the Institute, just a mediator between the different departments. Also, if you came in and just tried to change everything do you REALLY think they wouldn't just kick you out now that Shaun is dead?

>>744242197
Does fo4 actually have those??

>>744249130
>needlessly kidnapping people, replacing them with synths
The point of gen 3 synths is surveilance and sabotage. Ensure that no community can become too big for its britches and to make sure nobody actively pursues them via subterfuge.
It is a fucking stupid train of logic the faction pursued because of Bethesda incompetence, but there is a reason.
>creating super mutants
long before the events of the main quest, they stopped making super mutants. The entire super mutant factory is locked off after Virgil fucked everything up
>why is there so fucking many of them and respawn
1. Bethesda incompetence
2. My coomer brain decided that Institute FEV Super Mutants are not sterile and can breed. There is a baby factory for muties somewhere.

>>744245865
The venn diagram between the complete dimwit and the cattle circlejerking about how "intellectual" [insert whatever] is, is a circle.

>>744249239
They probably just wanted an perspective on "why the BoS is bad" from someone that used to work with them which Li did.

>>744249220
I am aware. As I said, the Institute itself is not totally secure from the radiation above ground. They transported him to the Institute, got his DNA, finished the Gen 3 project, and then he got cancer from the radiation that seeps into the Institute. Way to totally not read what I actually wrote.

>>744249364
I think either Maxson or one of the crew calling Elder Lyons a wasteful idiot for actually being useful to people outside their society gives you enough perspective.
What happened to Sarah Lyons anyway.

>Also, if you came in and just tried to change everything do you REALLY think they wouldn't just kick you out now that Shaun is dead?
Would they expect that the psychotic, kleptomaniac murderhobo who just massacred thousands across the wastes would politely acquiesces to their demands?
>Hey I know you're the parent of our leader who made you director after he passed and am also a demigod of violence and destruction whom no mortal can oppose but if you tell me to stop making robogorillas I'm gonna....t-throw my pocket protector at you and pee my pants!