>They fired 23 of the 90 devs they had>This was just 3 weeks after leaving Xbox and going independentGo woke go broke
>>744217813good, they're jews
>>744217813heartwarming news
>>744217813yay
>>744217813Good
>>744217813Kiln bros????
>>744217813Hope they go bankrupt.
>>744217813>havent released a non techdemo game in half a decade>have no money>have literally nothing about to be released>not sure if they have even anything in the works at all>"now is the perfect time to go independent again!"based tim schafer! you did it again you old card!! way to never learn from your own mistakes!
>>744217813Oh man do those kickstarter pictures keep getting better with age
>>744217813
>>744218432The free decoration pack did not stoke the sales at all! How could this be?!
>con man getting his just dessertsS
>>7442178131.4 fine
the fact that they had 90 employees on microsoft's payroll all these years needs to be studied.
>>744217813Go woke go broke
>>744217813Excellent news, however, I will not be satisfied until Tim Schafer is personally destitute.
>>744217971>>744218025>>744218341>>744218428>>744218489>>744219390wtf is wrong with you?
>>744219390Just sleeping on the streets destirute or madly rambling about incoherent things near a hospital destitute
>>744219707The world is healing
>>744219707Probably donated to the kickstarters.GO FUCK YOURSELF, TIM.
>>744217971
>>744217813>blueskygo back tranny
>>744217813>hey man, how about you move out of the most expensive town on earth, or start produce actual games that people want to play instead of random art projects>nah bro, its finegood, fuck them
PEOPLE'S JOBS ARE AT STEAK!!!
Of all the cities in the US where I wouldn't want to be unemployed, San Francisco is near the top of the list.But they also only ever produced quirk chungus safe crap, so fuck 'em.
>>744217813Double Fine? More like DOUBLE FIRED!!!
>>744223159I LOVE STEAK
>>744217813When they reach 45 will they rename themselves 'Fine'?
>>744217813I like psychonauts but these guys waste their fucking lives on the worst games. They should have been working with Tim Burton and printing money instead.
>>744219707They hate the guy for whatever reason.I don't blame them.Hate is based, I'm sure it's justified.
how is double fine woke...? do you guys just cerebrate every layoff at this point without thinking?
>>744228154
>>744228154Pretending to be retarded doesn't do you any favours.
>>744228287>not even included in the game, you have to go out of your way and download that free optional addon with flagsThat's it? That's what you're mad about? That's embarrassing
>>744228546>ummm atschkualy that doesn't counthttps://youtu.be/SSmYS_NSYTs?si=yp3YCyjmyLXHMdVHhave a shoehorned in slow walk sodomite wedding section then. that fits your criteria
>>744228703Thank you for linking a 45 minute long youtube video I'm totally watching that
>>744217813im suprised double fine still existstheir last real game didnt even break 2 million sales
>bluecry announcement onlyHAHAHAGET UNEMPLOYED WORTHLESS FAGGOTS
>>744218516I'm sure they have another crowd funding grift in the oven right now.
>>744228979why are you so psychopathic
>>744228546they are bluesky troons occupied with gay pride and not gameplay.I hope they end up in a cardboard box.
>>744229039psychopathic? these people are literally the cancer ruining western videogames. only Asia is immune.every mass firing of these worthless retards is a good thing for gaming.
>>744229173psychopath
>>744221707>holding on to /v/ drama from 12 years agomental illness
Second thing Tim should do is fire himself as CEO. Creatives should not be making business decisons.
>>744229039It's what happens when you get too wrapped up in culture war shit because you spend all of your time on the internet.
>>744217813Psychonauts 2 was only produced because of Microsoft.
>>744228786I couldn't care less what you do, sodomite lover. you got btfo'd twice and can now leave tend to your ass parasites
>>744229517Published
>>744217813Where's their heckin' union?
>>744229039>>744229341>it's psychopathy when you're glad that karma finally hit the people that hate you and want to destroy everything you loveok troon
>>744217971Spirit of Pinochet lives on
>>744229532I don't love them, I just a have a thing called empathy and I can tolerate them since they don't cause me any harm
>looks at their latest games, cute party game with pottery characters, cute adventure game about a walking lighthouse, cute platformer with psychic abilitiesYep, these guys are literally Satan and are destroying video games and everything I love, I hope they starve to death
>>744229607>the people that hate you and want to destroy everything you loveThat's called a persecution complex or delusional disorder
>>744229780>>744229797someone post that tweet about it being impossible to argue with leftists because they just pretend to be retarded
>>744229848gotcha
>>744229631>I can tolerate themah ok so your just a bigot who's too afraid to speak your mind
>>744229935I just did
>>744229780this is literally everything wrong with the west: globohomo garbage.
>>744229848I mean in my post I was pretending to be you guys by reiterating things so are you calling yourself retarded?
>>744229780The problem is that Double Fine's games consistently sell in the double digits. Their model is unsustainable, which is why Microsoft cut them loose.
Their games are pretty mid. I kinda liked costume quest games and iron brigade but they're just small indie tier. They've obviously been stealing money for years. No reason these shit should have massive budgets. They're lucky shit lasted this long
>>744229780This, but unironically.
>>744230184That's fine and I agree with, my problem is with the tourists who are trying to spin this as their culture war victory
>>744217813>insults former fans for years>nobody buys his slop>microslop drops his ass and he immediately goes broke
>>744230292so ur just mad cause ur team lost. got it.
>>744230361how did they insult fans?
>>744217813GO WOKE
>>744230375I'm mad because you're talking about teams.
>>744230397Were you not paying attention during gamergate?
>>744230292>NO STOP PLEASE DON'T CELEBRATE THIS LEFTIST SHITHEAD GOING BROKE AIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE1!!!!!1!
>>744230292>trying to spin thisYou lost the culture war, troon
>>744230479You can discuss politics on /pol/.
>>744229848>someone responded with a rational thought. QUICK, POST THE IMAGE!
>>744230591You can go be a tranny on /plebbit/
>>744230638You can discuss trannies on /lgbt/.
>>744230292Tim was tight with all the villains of ye olde Gamergate era and invited Phil Fish himself to DJ for his team's office party.Looks like a pretty clear-cut culture war victory to me. Why are you so butt-bothered? (Former) Employee?
>>744230409El Gamer Del Doblo Fino
>>744230448Good, keep crying woketard.
>>744230674That's cool, when are you going back to /lgbt/ trannoid????
>>744217813Broken Age was so terrible that they probably deserve it.
>>744230746I don't know, you're the one who brought up trannies, why aren't you there???
It's sad. They should have just made Psychonauts 3, at least that would have sold a hundred thousand copies or so.
>>744230820I was following this game and thought it looked worth playing, but $30 is absurd these days. I wish the Gamepass numbers existed.
>>744228979Clock ticking down until those let go start complaining on social media about the work conditions of DF.
>>744230820It's cool that they're still trying to do new original games instead of milking old IPs like other studios
>>744230912I would honestly play it for $5, the art style actually does look pretty good but yeah, $30 for what looks like a short glorified walking simulator / puzzle game is awful. No one is going to buy it at that price.
How come Hazelight makes super popular GOTY contenders for similar B-tier arty games but Tim only gets 10 sales if he's lucky?
>>744231067Coop
>>744230945>they're still trying to do new original gamesSpeaking of which, I wonder if Microsoft gets to keep all of the gamejam ideas from the last 6 years. Or maybe DF stopped doing Amnesia Fortnite out of spite.
>>744219707I am past "it doesn't affect me"I'm at "I don't want people who make games I don't like to keep their jobs."
>Double Fine Productions>Headquarters San Francisco, Californiaoh, that should be cheap. I see Brad Muir jumped ship to work for Valve.
>>744217813Has Tim created a single game above mediocre since Brutal Legend?
>>744231276>I don't want people who make gamesPeak /v/ retardation
Will they panic announce Psychonauts 3 before croaking?
>>744219707Hello Tim.
>>744231417uh oh esl can't read english is going to make it everybody else's problem
>>744231408Psychonauts 2, even if it took him over 15 years to do so.
>>744231276>I'm at "I don't want people who make games I don't like to keep their jobs."
>>744230591/pol/ website.
>>744230409I think if your company is in San Francisco, and you don't put faggot pride shit up during June, your office gets fire bombed.
>>744217813Never made a single good game, genuinely surprises me how long they lasted. They gave that fat fuck so many chances and always dropped the most mediocre forgettable shit. The Jack Black of video games.
>>744217813Hopefully all of them were Americans.
>>744231570That's right.Anita Sarkessian used that logic and caused Gamergate to change this industry for 15 years. It's an effective strategy.Why would I not fight back with that same logic?I want them to lose their jobs. I want them destitute and replaced. I was born in the filth. If they want to fight dirty I will drag them into the filth and beat them with experience.
>>744231659They've got some gays in the studio but they also really like doing variants of their logo.
>>744231518I don't like to keep your opinion
>>744231657You will never be an oldfag.
>>744231739>It's an effective strategy.At killing the industry by making every game part of
>>744231739>anon is genuinely Batman
>>744231657Pools closed was a silly raid, had nothing to do with politics other than the edgy swastika
>>7442316572026 4chan would be calling them Indian
>>744231928zoomers cannot tell the difference between making edgy jokes and being an actual genuine nazi. remember this because it's an extremely reliable way to tell someone's age on the internet
>>744231806Neither will you, but you will also never belong on this website, and I already do.>>744231928And this is a silly thread where we mock shit devs for getting their just desserts.
>>744232047>I already do.no you don't.
>>744219707KYS. Faggot. I’m not satisfied till you’re dead.
>>744232067>no you don't.
>>744228154Yes. KYS nigger faggot. Livestream it>>744228546Now. Do it
>>744232014If you don't unironically hate jews after everything that's happened - you're the underage faggot.
>>744229631Yeah,suck>>744230791 a shotgun. Faggot. You too
>>744231657>2006 Habbo Raid was a protest in July 2006 against racism on Habbo.Member when we actually stood for social justice?
>>744232229>he thinks "hating jews" makes you an "actual genuine nazi"Underage b&
>>744232170Why is he dressed like that? Where are they going?
>>744232170Explain to me why you believe you know what 4chan was like if you weren't there.
>>744231570KYS tranny
>>744232225>>744232289The mask is off
>>744232352Found the karen
>>744232335The fuck do you mean by "le actual le genuine le nazi" then, faggot?>b&Nice job using slogans you don't understand because you saw people twice your age use them.>>744232317Yeah, like the He Will Not Divide Us era.>>744232347You first, nigger.
>>744217813Hopefully all these Woke employees get killed by Muslims.
>>744232732Actually I was there. You weren't even alive back then.
Psychonauts 2 was shit and not worth the wait.
>>744232821Actually I'm thrice as old as you and in fact fucked your mother.
>>744232945lol lil zoom having a meltdown
>>744232732Ah you're one of thise tourists
>>744233023No actual oldfag would talk like that, you ebonics-speaking nigger. I accept your concession and reject your rotten axewound stench.
>>744233163>ERMMM I'M A 4CHAN EXPERT OK???nope
>>744219707you should have bought their games if you don't want them fired
>>744233335can you explain why you believe you're a 4chan expert? did you go to internet university and get a degree in 4chan culture?
>>744233163>I accept your concession100% confirmed election tourist>"if you disagree with me you're a tranny"As if there was any remaining doubt
>>744229039TOTAL WESTERN UNEMPLOYMENT
>>744233387We were here before the university's foundation was poured
>>744233335this webm gives me a mighty need for a napalm flamethrower
>>744228546going to the store page or download section is "going out of your way"? you lazy bastard.
>>744228979>>744219353It makes you look like a muppet.
>>744233727I don't think those are real policies
>>744233476you said you weren't though >>744232047
>>744233727Concept art rarely comes to fruition as is, woke or not. This is just Sony being faggots.
>>744233407>>I accept your concession>100% confirmed election tourist>>"if you disagree with me you're a tranny">As if there was any remaining doubt
>>744231570>>744231739>>744231821NOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO BE LE BETTER THAN THEY ARENo.
>>744233727I love how this meme inexplicably is somehow anti-ESG/left-wing progressivism but also is environmentalist.
If these guys actually had work ethic (I'm sure the employees do, but Tim sucks at directing it), then they could probably have been the pixar of video games.
>>744231821>At killing the industryI still have my old games
>>744223123>nah bro, its double finefixed
>>744218516It was this or Asha shuts it all down/sells them
>>744228825Last game of theirs I bought was Massive Chalice and it sucked :(
>>744229039>why are you so psychopathic*psychonautical
some random cucks dont matter only ceo and lead devs getting fired mean something
>>744217813TOTAL GAME INDUSTRY CRASH! NO MERCY!
it is immensely satisfying to see people who went all in on woke stuff lose everything. and the best part is, I did nothing. I ignored them and laughed at their devs.
I want you to explain to me why the west insists on DEI sloppa when ignoring your BUYING AUDIENCE is guaranteed to fail.why would you spend millions of dollars, just to make no money, and do layoffs. why try to appeal to a non existent "modern audience" who hate video games.worthless retards
>>744217813Never bought Psychonauts 2 and never will. Double Fine died after release of Brutal Legend.
>>744239095>I want you to explain to me why the west insists on DEI sloppa when ignoring your BUYING AUDIENCE is guaranteed to fail.Most AAA studio offices are in California. Californian rot settled in and never let go. Its that simple.
>>744239095Because they get funded to do so or get benefactors who are so rich that it keeps getting funded. Microsoft let these guys, who were nearly bankrupt before getting bought, crash on their couch for free for 7 years. And when they get laid off, they have so many connections in the industry that they jump right back in with a new company funded by the elite or some retarded venture capitalists.
>>744217813its crazy how agressively jew tube is pushing this bastard into my feed. i keep selecting "dont recommend channel" and still it comes back
>>744239095because their audience is investors, not consumers
>>744217813it's amazing how single minded you bozos are.
>>744239664psychonauts 2 was alright, though it felt very much split on what it wanted to do. once it settles into the main conflict of the game it gets alot better but the early parts are rough
>>744217813get fucked hahahha
>>744243808Yes.I am single minded in only wanting good game devs to make games.If you suck at the job and only make nonsense like a pottery fighting game, then you deserve to fall out.Rules of Nature.
>>744243886>good game devsSuch as?
>>744243886right but the pottery fighting game isn't like, inherently woke though. unless pottery is now woke. it was just another smaller scale Doublefine release that didn't see much fanfare, did you even know they made and released something like Keeper? They are basically an indie studio operating with costs way over what they sell, for most their last release was like, Psychonauts 2. also obviously you care more about idpol than videogames, let's not pretend otherwise now
>>744230820They are completely incapable of making psychonauts 3 literally all talent outside of the art team has left the company. If you watch the making of documentary, early on they hire a real producer, an actually competent person that gets things rolling at speed. He makes decisions, gets shit done, on schedule and on budget. Then some short blue haired people start yelling and crying during meetings and then quit with a lot of pointless drama because they were very, very clearly overstepping their bounds and were then shut down. After which Tim fires the only competent leader in the entire company and has to take the reigns himself, except he has no idea what he's doing since he's just a writer.The fact psychonauts 2 came out at all was a miracle brought on thanks to microsoft bailing them out since they are constantly on the verge of bankrupcy
>>744217813ahemAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>>744244034>reply with [dev name]>LOL ANON LIKES [dev name] I CAN NOW DISCOUNT HIS OPINION (heh, he doesn't know I would've done that no matter what dev he said.)
>>744244106So you have no taste and just want to complain, got it.
>>744244070>If you watch the making of documentary, early on they hire a real producer, an actually competent person that gets things rolling at speed"Gets things rolling" = immediately gets everyone to work on level design before figuring out the basic powers of the game.He was a guy who helped 2K push Bioshock 2 out, without much real experience beyond that. His corpo mindset wasted tons of time and resources (because Tim was lazy and allowed him to)
>>744244285This is not a conversation on my taste.The original point was an accusation that I was singleminded.Yes, I am. You either make good games or fuck off.
>>744243808Schafer and his team shat out 2 indie-tier dogshit games in the 5 years after Psychonauts 2 came out. Microsoft finally pulled the plug on their lazy asses and now they're dealing with the consequences of having nothing good come out of their half-decade of "work" and people are laughing at them for this. What's the issue?
>>744244431right and the point of contention here is that you do not actually care about quality of game, you care about idpol.
>>744217813How many people upset about this news actually bought their games?
>>744244431>You either make good games or fuck off.Such as?
>>744244547>man who clearly isn't single minded on the subject "wtf why are you talking about me"talkin about the dipshits crying woke about everything you baboon
>>744228992>I'm sure they have another crowd funding grift in the oven right now.lol
>>744244601I bought Psychonauts full price and would have bought Keeper/Kiln if they were on the console of my choice instead of being tied to Microsoft.
>>744244070Zak was useless. Only thing he was good at was convincing people he was productive.
>>744244587>you do not actually care about quality of gameWhat a presumptuous thing to say.In this reply chain, post one thing that would indicate that.What, I didn't like your super special wholesome chungus pottery battle game? Damn. I must hate vidya.>>744244610You're not listening, moron. I'm not going to do that. This is not a question of my taste. This is not a scenario where you get to take my favorite games and then derail the conversation by shitting on it. That strat got nerfed. We're in a new patch
>>744244716>That strat got nerfed. We're in a new patchDefinitely an idpol zoomer
>>744244654go woke go broke, faggot
>>744217813how can they afford to have any employees
>>744244835Tim reverse mortgaged his house
>>744230409>>744230134fucking hell.They deserve all the lay-offs.
>>744244716>In this reply chain, post one thing that would indicate that.well you replied to my post mocking OP for being a single celled organism crying about wokeness, and you certainly felt offense on his behalf (if you aren't him which I haven't ruled out yet) so either you resonate with OP's stance, or you're a moron who saw someone making fun of someone else then inserted himself into a conversation and took offense at a statement that was not intended for you, and are now doggedly pursuing someone for that mockery.
>>744244716>What a presumptuous thing to say.>>744244106
>>744244819there is a whole world outside of 4chan idpol and you will never see any of it. I pity you.
>>744244835These are just the immediate layoffs. Cutting off some of the fat. If they can't secure funding from angel investors, some other shmuck as dumb as Microsoft, or some retarded venture capitalists, they'll probably lay off more people.
>>744244707he was the singular voice of reason trying to bring order into this mess where everyone is just playing makebelieve at game development, a company where even the fucking documentary cameramen guilt trip the company into letting them in on game development because they just have such great ideas
>>744221628>>744221707>>744228039>>744232167>>744233302
>>744244816Incredible. You somehow appear incapable of getting the point.This is not some debate. I am DECLARING that I will not buy bad games and even campaign for them to not exist. There is no response. Trying to attack my character with your buzzwords does nothing.>>744244875Neither of those possibilities indicate that I don't like video games. Can't you stay on topic?>>744244932>avoid anon's obvious trap>this means I hate gamesYou are not going to get my game taste, dipshit. No matter how you try to rephrase the same bait over and over.
>>744245008>No matter how you try to rephrase the same bait over and over.What a presumptuous thing to say
>>744245008>I will not buy bad games and even campaign for them to not exist.And what attributes qualify a game as "bad" to you, so "bad" that you would campaign for them to not exist?
>>744235070>left/right
>>744245181While I'm tempted to reference wokeness (as it's the subject of the damn thread) it would play right into your hand. I'm not about to let you take a single example of mine and use it to claim I only care about politics.So let's talk about Doublefine. How about the fact they were absolutely incompetent with their crowdfunding?They crowdfunded Space Base DF-9 and still wasn't half of what the consumers wanted.They had to break Broken Age into multiple acts because crowdfunding money ran out.Or how about the general shit controls of Psychonauts 2?They're incompetent retards who don't cut it in an entertainment industry.
>>744245450>While I'm tempted to reference wokeness
>>744245008>Neither of those possibilities indicate that I don't like video games. Can't you stay on topic?yep moron it is. enjoy your pointless waffling with everyone else I guess
>>744217813Oh shit, not Double Fine, makers of such fine games like... uhh.... ummmmmm... errrrrrr.....
did they also replace all of the cs jobs with government sponsored indians despite cs being one of the most overproduced us degrees
>>744235070Hitler was an environmentalist.Meanwhile jews despise nature because its laws aren't Noahide Laws.
>>744231417Unironically, yes.
>bluesky troon devs mass layoffsall is well with the world today.
always the same copes, wokes can only speak in bad faith because their entire worldview is based on lies>that's not woke>it's just optional content>it's just a small detail>why do you care so much?>I will defend them to death but you're weird for caring about thisthe result is the same: GO WOKE, GO BROKE
>>744231570You know doxxing me is against the rules on 4chan.org/videogames/
>>744245814>>744245765the world is healing, woke losers are being culled day by day
>>744231570>
>>744228979>becoming a size that we can sustainSo he admits he's been a leech making unprofitable shit. Seems like Microsoft was right to kick them to the curb
>>744245814Nobody was buying their recent games even if they weren't woke, let's be real. The concepts are fundamentally unappealing.
too bad for tim the kickstarter era is over, dude is gonna die broke
>>744246028It's no coincidence the most blatantly woke games are the worstthey're using games as a medium to deliver propaganda, making something appealing is not their priorityif they weren't woke, these games wouldn't exist or at least they'd actually try to be appealing
>>744246028>u-uuu----uuuh i-t-it-its no-n-n-not wh-w-wh-why it flopped!cope more woke loser
>>744230171>>744230629>strawmenI accept your concessions
>>744230629look at how many of you now meltdown at the idea of someone posting that image, it's the funniest shit ever
they have literally no way to pay their employees as they dont make anything worth money.why do layoffs? close the studio, retard. you cant even pay wages.
>>744217813go woke go bro.....errrrrrrrrrrr top the charts?
>>744245964expect more layoffs in half a year since they are still coasting off the release of psychonauts 2... which was... quite some time ago
>assassins creed shadows flopped and ubisoft is losing millions>marathon flopped and playstation announced they're not getting any profit from the 4 billion dollars they spent on bungie>mina the hollower flopped and yatch club games is close to bankruptcy>thousands of DEI hires are facing mass layoffs across several studios
>>744246101>>744246134Explain to me the wokeness and propaganda behind a short puzzle game where you play a sentient lighthouse.
>>744246509>explain to me how slop made by wokes is woke
>>744246480all they had to do was listen to the "chuds" who actually like video games.
>>744217813Looked through their releases and honestly it's a miracle they're alive.There's no way they aren't getting cut down to like 30 devs by the end of the year you can't sustain a studio that size with this shit.
>>744229173>they are bluesky troons occupied with gay prideNot that anon, proof?
>>744246532Wow, I guess if a conservative happened to accidentally make a woke game, then the game is still conservative.
>>744246386imagine doing this with veilguard with the benefit of hindsight
>>744219707>wtf is wrong with you?
>>744246597double fail left twitter to post on bluecry exclusively.
>>744246509>ummmm im a leftoid that plays dumb ummmmmmm please walk me through itsomeone post the pic
Total Western Dev Unemployment
how did politics mind break everyone on this site
the formula for success is so easy. yet these retard western devs insist on making games for the 0.000001% of people that dont even play videogames or like things that male players like. it's amazing.at least Asia is sane.
>>744246671>>744246532>>744246509>>744229848>>744229917round no.2
>>744246601this, what if a developer's finger slips and he accidentally presses the "make the main character a black nonbinary tranny talking about how bad capitalism and white people are and how children should be chemically castrated" button on unreal engine
>>744246715well, western studios forcing their diversity slop and themes into games turns out to be a bad idea. all people wanted was good gameplay and fun. devs in the west decided "let's use this media as a vehicle to manipulate kids and adults".I hope they are all homeless after this.
>>744246730now contrast that lovely lady with this western slop.
>>744233929maybe you should go read Finks fucking own words some time
>>744246715westoid woke slop is slop, in other news the sky is blue
>>744246671>>744246751Nah, your statement is just shit and makes no sense. You prove yourself as emotional like a woman incapable of objectivity.
>>744246838>uhhh nuh uhuh huh
>>744246715>let propaganda take over most of the western AAA and indie game development>why are people suddenly talking about politics?
leftist finding out (yet again)? [Uplifting News]
>>744233335I was expecting the whole thing to burst into flames. How disapointing.
>>744246715>this siteeverywhere on the internet even normalfag discords that have nothing to do with politics talk about politics nowadays, you must live under a rock
>>744246871You sound a bit underaged to be posting here.
>>744246984>wokeslopper meltysend the devs some donations maybe?
Surely the thousand of woke devs who got fired will show us all by making new studios releasing amazing games.Aaaaany second now
>>744217813They've really only made one truly good game and everyone has been dickriding them ever since.
>>744217813>>744242804double ko, 2 woke studios shitting the bed
>>744247168Psychonauts isn't even good. Some novel scenarios and fun art slapped onto a pretty mediocre adventure game with outright bad combat and platforming with a sequel that doubles down on the worst parts while gutting the best ones.
>>744219707The Western games industry has to completely die and stay dead for at least a decade in order for it to regain its greatness. Every time stuff like this happens, we are closer to it.
>>744217813Take a shot every time some fag infested company makes dogshit no one wanted
imagine designing a product for gamers. but, you intentionally remove all the things gamers like, and you go out of business. why would you INTENTIONALLY do this? all these fucking layoffs were predictable.
>>744246509It's pretentious as fuck, and insists upon itself
>>744247463Executives and Private Equity assume that gamers are a captive audience and that they need to start appealing to non-gamers while assuming the gamers will stick around.
>>744247492after what seems like millions of layoffs and billions wasted, why dont these retards just make fun games with attractive girls? it's not even rocket science. make a good gameplay loop and some aesthetic designs. and keep your political shit out of the narrative.
>>744247492And it backfires every time.
>>744247551Two reasons.First, the people they've hired are trannies and ugly/average women as developers. Those two groups never make attractive women.Second, and this one is my tinfoil hat, I believe it's part of a plot to force all the hot girls into gacha and live service games in order to normalize predatory monetary practices and move away from pay to play games.
>>744247626it's funny how the west keeps fucking up meanwhile Asia makes trillions yearly off pretty female characters. The gacha games aren't even mind blowing in terms of gameplay. Usually they are simple but fun games. But they make tons of money.And the west spends hundreds of millions to make shit like this. It's amazing.
>>744247781I don't like either approach, frankly.I don't like the idea that I have to either open my wallet constantly for hot girls or suffer ugly girls.
>a woke game according to /v/
>>744247817at least with gacha games you can still get pretty characters without investing a lot. 4 stars aren't as great as the 5 stars necessarily, but at least the designs are consistently nice. Whereas in the west you pay for a game and get a cast of hideous troons.
>>744247781I don't play western aaa games but if they start making every western release a gacha game i will probably only play retro games and indie titles foreverActually you know what just make western games gacha games burn it all to the ground
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>>744247863Again, I don't like getting fucked over. Comparing how hard one team is fucking me over to another isn't an appealing concept for me.
>>744247876I think Asia will be fine, even the non gacha stuff consistently has aesthetic designs. It's the west that is cancer obsessed with pushing an agenda or politics. At least the girls aren't all male orcs with giant jaws in their games.
Going independent is fine because Xbox is a shitshow - along with much of the AAA industry, but if you don't have a project in the pipe, I'm not sure why you'd think you could keep everyone hired. I know Microsoft may have caused all kinds of shit as they used to have non-compete clauses necessary to get severance that wasn't a warm fart in the hand (yes they're both predatory practices, but only a handful of states have decent workers' rights and you have to be able to afford a case against a company with infinite money practically)., but it seems like it would have been better to go independent and then hire people back on when you managed to secure funding, keeping only a core cadre of early devs and if necessary working basically like an indie in spare time, while giving those onboard a stake in the new company. When you have something sufficient to demo that people seem to like/generates good buzz and/or can get a loan, then you can start expanding. >>744246715Newfaggotry and tourists (both gamergate faggortry that basically lubed the way for the full load of election tards). A different kind of cancer metastasized from elsewhere.
>>744245927Nah, snowflake behavior was always worthy of ridicule. You just don’t have principles.
>>744231657/v/ didn't get this political until GG/HWNDU/2014 Saying nigger and Nazi shitposting wasnt the same as back then
>>744248330call it whatever you want, it won't stop no matter how you cry on behalf of woke slop
>>744239095Because it's easy to cater to loud but small voices like Era/Gaf The faggots there don't play or buy games anyway so catering to them is senseless but they're loud and gaslight devs into thinking they're the majority
>>744239095propaganda is funded by tax funds, not by game purchases so they don't care it sells like shit
>>744246480>minaThe issue with mina is the difficulty is niche why you would donate to BLMs giant scam when your not like something like EA and your games need to mass appeal to sell is beyond me
>>744247863Accepting gacha mechanics because hot girl is basically a >cheering as they take a shit in your mouth, because a wokeoid may have to smell it level of faggotry. Its not an either-or choice, you can have both attractive characters without shitty monetization that thinks of you as a spaghetti spilling loser caricature that will unload your wallet if you see vacuous animated tits. They're laughing all the way to the bank. Oldfags used to rightly get pissed about mobile freemium bullshit, lootboxes, item mall exclusives, >ITS ONLY COSMETIC BRO garbage, but now we have a generation that has grown up with a Fortnite item store, battle passes everywhere, and willing to throw money even at gacha. How far things have fallen. >>744247626The second point here is sort of correct, but its not just hot girls - just like with the MOBAs selling massive skins and battle passes with special events where you need to buy hundreds of dollars worth of shit to have a chance at buying the thing you want in a limited time etc - they don't particularly care how you get to gacha sbit, they just want it to be acceptable instead of being shit on as it should be. Same with every form of predatory monetization , whatever gets a critical mass of people to accept it and pay - even if it means a handful of addicts willing to spend thousands aas opposed to thousands willing to spend a little - they'll push. Also on your first element, there were average/ ugly women who worked in game studios that made games with attractive women and men alike, worldwide. Trannies en masse are a recent thing given the definition of trannydom being an expanded thing vs the old days , but back in the days a troon typically would go out of their way to NOT be obnoxious and just do the work - Hineman and Jaquays for example The core issue is until recently low level employees couldn't get offended and game content changed in response; you did what the design said.
>>744247551>why dont these retards just make fun games with attractive girls? it's not even rocket science. make a good gameplay loop and some aesthetic designs.I miss the 90's and 2000's so fucking much, man. I took literally everything for granted. There is no hell imaginable that would be sufficient punishment for the crimes I'd be willing to commit to go back to those times.
at least now we're seeing shitloads of mass layoffs. they will learn or they will starve, it's that simple.
>>744229917>>744246751It's not that lefties pretend to not understand, they legitimately don't understandthere's something about them that makes them less human and makes it impossible for them to reason, they're like animals acting on primal emotions The millionaires running things are deceiving, but the woke losers arguing online are just easily manipulated cattle who believe whatever is convenient to them and immediately cope and warp their worldview and arguments however is convenient to not make them feel bad You can't reason with them and will never convince them they were wrong about anything, the second they're proven wrong they just pull mental gymnasticsThe only way to deal with them is by force
>>744246715original userbase was replaced by userbase that came here specifically for politics
>>744217813I hope they start to release games again, the microsoft era wasn't great for that
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>>744217813Fantastic news for gaming
>>744231821>killing the industryOnly the cancer is being killed
>>744249980To be fair they're taking many IPs with themthey're like cancer affecting a lot of franchises that were actually good before this mess
>>744217813About fucking time.
>>744250076Tim Schafer was one of the originals and owner of lot of the IPs. So in Double Fine's case the rot settled at the very roots of the company.
>Get brought out by Microsoft >Can make whatever they want>Tim: "Pitch me your most un-pitchable game, and we'll make that!">They make Kiln and Keeper. Idiotic ideas nobody wants. Neither even gets 1,000 concurrent players>The infinite money glitch runs out>HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING TO ME!?The fact that they didn't use Microsoft's resources to make something great, something they couldn't make by themselves (like they needed help to get Psyconauts 2 done) is fucking INSANE.
>>744249905Which double fine game is that?
>>744247485How would you know that, are you one of the 50 people in the world who played it?
Why were the system requirements for Keeper so high in comparison to all their prior games?Usually you could play their games on toasters very smoothly at release because it was always about artstyle but the reconmended specs are quite high.Also how exactly did the going independent thing Work? Did they have to pay out M$?
>>744231739You're goddamn right. You have to meet people where they are, trying to act better than them means they just keep getting lower and lower.
>>744239095A lot of it was the investment money around in 2018-2020. The long and short of it is that today investment firms would give insanely good terms, because of the market in those days. However, they had to meet investor obligations and they'd told their investors they'd do X level of ESG.Nobody in finance actually gives a shit about ESG, but it's a good selling point, it's a box you can tick, it's like carbon finance. So they all advertise it even if none of them are actually sure if their investors actually care. So they go to the game company and say, I'll give you a loan of 200mill for this much stake in this product, and all you have to do is make it fit ESG in whatever way. So they fill it with black characters, add pride stuff etc etc.But then the games began flopping and the investment money dried up, so things began crashing. Plus with the previous hiring frenzy, they're now surplus talent, so a lot of people are getting fired. We're now seeing the long tail of this, because most of today's flops have been in production since 2020 or so.
>>744251274anon this is a culture war thread not a video games thread
>>744244106Yup.
>>744247492Yeah, the Blue Ocean strategy. "We've got the Spiderman fans already, now, how can we get the people who aren't Spiderman fans..."
>>744247781It's mind boggling that there's nobody making gatcha games in the West. There's plenty of people who hate anime and would love to throw stupid amounts of money at sexy women. But nobody wants to make a sexy woman game.
now that the dust has settled can we agree that psychonauts 2 was shit?
>>744252082No
>>744252082I was supremely let down by it.
>>744252107anon double fine is going under. you don't have to shill for tim anymore
>>744252082The first psychonauts is one of the most mediocre and forgettable gaming experiences of the era. It had nothing to live up to.
>culture war slop>gachaslop shilling>twitter images as argumentsAnd the award for "The Brownest Thread of the Day" goes to...
>>744228287>>744218701>>744230134>>744230409It's shocking to me that this was the best they could come up with to capitalize on the friendslop trend. They have truly lost it as a studio.
>>744252248i miss the old days
>>744252501is the only solution congregating in small online circles? how do you anons even use the internet nowadays
>>744252608>how do you anons even use the internet nowadaysGames or indie devs with pre-established /v/ fanbases usually have decent threads. You know how whites in america moved out of cities into suburbs to get away from niggers in cities? It's sort of like but for the internet. You can still live, you just need to stay in gated detroit suburbs and avoid downtown detroit unless absolutely necessary.
>>744217813only 30%? it's a good start at least
do you think these DEI retards will ever learn, even after millions of layoffs? why do they do stupid shit like a moth into a flame?>I will spend 500 million to make an all troon hero shooter>it didn't sell? how come?
>>744253614>how come?not even in their wildest dreams would they reach to a point where they ask themselves this. They have only answers, no questions
>>744253614>spend 500 million to make an all troon hero shooterWhat does that have to do with double fine?
The reason all these retards were hired is investors were fixated with DEI and mandated it, now those same investors are fixated with AI and so no longer give a fuck about the women, fags and blacks they previously made them hire.Latest thing status, over.
>>744253817They've overspent to make looney troon games that nobody bought too. They've done it for decades now
>>744253959is this a bot? do you even know what double fine is?
>>744254034Double fine? This is a culture war thread sister
>>744254071No i'm pretty sure this thread is about double fine.
>>744254084It's crazy how leftist discourse is just you pretending to be retarded thus making this course impossible
>>744254184says double fine in the op. are you in the wrong thread?
it's just so funny, these dei tards will look at you like you are crazy if you say 2B is hotter than some troon with a man jaw in a dress. it HAS to be performative to some degree. but still, only the mentally ill would pretend all this unaesthetic garbage is "good".
>>744254184That meme needs to be updatedhipsters are now replaced by trannies, and it needs to make the text shorter because it looks like a leftist meme with so many words
>>744254184>google filename>redditWow, a redditor using a twitter screencap AND an image he saved from reddit. What a goddamn shithole board, this place really went down the shitter.
>>744254393you really had to dig up this hard for anything to complain about that picture lmao
>>744254416Sorry it's an oldfag thing, you wouldn't understand.
>>744218701It really is something when a developer is forced to make a game nobody wants to exist. There fans didn't ask for this and didnt play it, none of the devs wanted to make it. They were just mandated to make anything that was live service and this was the result
>>744218701This is my first time even hearing this game exists? Ignoring the gay shit what is this game even about? Like I can't even discern what genre this would even be?
>>744217813shame. 70% to go
>>744254545This was the norm until recently. Studios had to pump out shit like kids games or movie-tie in games to pay the bills.
>>74421781390 dudes drawing a paycheck to put out, on average (last year being an outlier) a middling game every 3-4 years that sells maybe a couple hundred thousand copies.I imagine that the financials are absolutely fucked and management has no interest in making anything other than the quirk chungus slop they've been putting out, which is fine but you don't need a legion of employees to do it.
I will never forgive Mr.Shitface for abandoning Spacebase Df-9, I was genuinely looking forward to it and they dropped it because they "ran out of money" which is a huge pile of bullshit.
>>744254645Those games at least made sense to make 15 years ago. When consoles like wii or ps2 were the main market, parents would just buy any game from a store for Christmas or a birthday because it had a recognizable IP. They were developed quickly for cheap and fell into the bargain bin very quickly.Kiln was trying to capture the fall guys market i think. The kind of game that can only exist with hype, influencer marketing, following viral trends.
>>744218432>>744218701>>744252456Kiln wasn't a major game, it was one of their game jam projects.
>>744235070It's very odd that anyone on this site would be environmentalist, let alone people on the video game board.This is quite possibly the least environmentally-conscious site I have ever visited.
>>744230679That's because the villains he was 'friends with' were indie game devs, a scene he was invested in, and all the heroes were youtubers and forum users, people he likely never even heard of.
>>744248410>/v/ didn't get this political until GG/HWNDU/2014trying too hard
No trannies. No faggots. No fat women. Simple as.
>>744254545>when a developer is forced to make a game> none of the devs wanted to make it.it was their idea you retard
>>744227868I wanted to like Brutal Legend so much, because the marketing made it look like a heavy metal version of Legend of Zelda, but it turns into a shitty RTS really early in.
>>744217813>independent studio lays off people>internet still blames xboxIt makes no sense. Blame the head of the studio for firing all those poor employees.
>>744254875i'm still madfuck tim and fuck double fine
>half the thread is one guy mad at Tim Schafer specifically for shit that happened over a decade ago>the other half is people who don't play DF games and are just here for the culture warHonestly funny
>>744258809>>744254875world's biggest fuck you
>>744217813>everybody can replySo brave.
>>744231067Co-op couch-gaming is an untapped market and somehow only Hazelight managed to figure that out.
>>744258993so fucking slimy, this is why I'll never trust anything that stupid pile of shitfucks ever says ever again.
>>744217813Schafer lost all cred more than a decade ago. amazing that he still had employees.
>>744218516Didn't Asha say in the memo that the studios going independent have been capitalized to give them some runway?
>>744217813What did they even work on?
