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holy shit just how fucking long is this new FF7 remake thing? Every single day I see new scenes that I've never seen, I just assume an insane amount of shit happens
need to play this thing sometime..
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it's like 60% filler
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the full remake trilogy is 5 times longer than the original for some reason
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>>744225474
filler can be good if it makes you like the characters more
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>>744225581
>Remake making you like the characters more
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>FF8 Remake Part 1 will be all about Quistis teaching you about GFs, Junctioning and Triple Triad. All while preparing for the Dollet Mission which will be in Part 2.
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>>744226028
>1 installment every 5 years
>25 years to remake one SNES game
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>>744225368
They had to inflate the time for more Tifa, please understand.
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no one talks about ff7 apart from geriatric forums like v and gamefaqs
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>>744226028
>ff9 will end in the ice cavern where you fight a giant kuja
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>>744225368
They took a 6 hour long segment and turned it into 40. Hell, they took a single screen that lasts 5 seconds in the original and made it mind numbingly slow in Remake.
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>>744226693
made for big scarlet futacock
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>>744225368
Yep, it's huge. And apparently the map is even bigger in Revelation. If you like the original it's a real treat seeing it all beautifully recreated. You can really indulge yourself.
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>>744226771
Well yeah those are the only mainstream oldtroon centrals
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>>744226693
If its gonna be ai anyway why didn't you just use old tifa?
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>>744225368
Uh yea I hate remake, here is my porn folder please buy the game
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>>744227341
never played it.... well past the first few hours, I always got bored way back in the day
might try out the remake when its all done, its all done, isn't it? after this latest thing thats gonna drop?
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>>744225474
>>744225368
I've never played the originals and I'm enjoying the ride, filler and minigames included. Halfway through the 2nd one now, thank you SE for releasing the 3rd game day one on PC.

Fuck you SE though for requiring mods to fix your game, to remove all the stuttering, to make ultrawide work properly, and to actually implement lighting instead of just giving up or whatever the fuck the SE devs released.

Other than that, love the amount of effort that went into these games.
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>>744227706
Yeah part 3 will be the finale. Spring next year
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>>744226693
wouldn't it be weird if she used me as a punching bag, haha...
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bros i can handle the spoiler
do cloud and tifa get togeter at the end...
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>>744227895
I don't hate Remake on a fundamental level. There's just a lot of little to moderate sized things that piss me off and I think the filler in Remake is a valid complaint. For example:

After Wall Market you discover that Corneo was an informant for Shinra. You corner him and he confesses that Shinra is planning on dropping the Sector 7 Plate to kill off AVALANCHE. Now this is pretty distressing news. Shinra is going to kill 2 cities worth of people just to take out 6 people. And after the boss fight there's a mad dash to get back to Sector 7. The time from Corneo to Sector 7 takes like 15 to 20 minutes but that brevity works in its favor because this is rush.

But Remake has to stretch this shit out. Now instead of 15 minutes, we're at like an hour to go through the sewers and the Train Graveyard. And within the Train Graveyard we have to put a bunch of undead spirits to rest. Meanwhile you can literally see Sector 7 under attack in the distance. We don't have time for this bullshit but Remake has to stretch out a 4 hour section of game into 40. So there's scenes of Tifa and Aerith endearing to one another at a point where everyone should be scrambling to get home.
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>>744228317
Yes.
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no
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>>744228317
The devs have basically all but said we get to choose who Cloud ends up with, or at least who he gets to fug under the Highwind. But Cloud/Aerith have gotten two whole love songs as the main themes for part 1 and 2 already so unless part 3 is a Tifa song she's behind for the count
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>>744228317
nope, OG game ends with cloud wanting to reunite with Aerith
If you go by AC cloud and tifa are in a 'family of friends' and Barret even joins them in DoC. Tifa even gets jealous of Cloud's aerith obsession
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>>744225368
You cannot imagine how fatigued I am to see the FF7 cast for the gorillionth time
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>>744228336
As a new player sometimes everything feels like filler, so the experience doesn't feel much different. I was surprised to find out how "short" the section used in Remake was in comparison to the rest of the game, since it's presented as 1/3 of the game to someone who doesn't know the FF7 series.
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>>744225368
These games are terrible. I finished the first one and pooped out a couple of hours in to 2. Is 3 out? I'll muscle through this crap when it's all done.
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>>744225581
3 posts in and we already established why 7R is a complete failure.
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>>744229067
Well that's why I dont throw too many stones at people who's only depiction of this game is Remake. FF7 was made in 97, I played it in 99 and nearly every year since. So even though I personally fucking rage at Andrea and Honey Bee Inn, it's mostly because of my irritation at the people who made it not so much at the people who played it. You can't chastise people who literally don't know any better. If you're having a good time, continue to have a good time. I'm mostly on the ride because I'm trying to see where the fuck they're going with this.
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>holy shit just how fucking long is this new FF7 remake thing?
too long
>need to play this thing sometime..
buy an ad
I can only assume you've neen here long enough to know how contentious that piece of shit is here
Fuck you and the keyboard you use to fish for yous
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>>744228787
I guess I wasn't paying attention when the only gold saucer date to actually feature a kiss was with Tifa, my bad.
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>>744229067
>>744227895
Left is how normal women look chud. Right is unrealistic standards.
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>>744229585
Did Square Enix intentionally completely fuck up their lighting implementation to properly reflect reality? That's impressive dedication.
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>>744225474
>t.never played Final Fantasy VII Remake
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>>744227895
what are the lighting mods?
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>>744226693
>Miwo
Nice, have to wait half a year for the rest of the content though.
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>>744229492
Illiterate subhuman also won't notice that Nomura's nasty secondhand fap material he jizzed over since 1993(=97-4) & plagiarized her as "Tifa" >>744192245
>>744230201
>>744230665
is never anything else than a sloppy imposter & cheap substitute always at the second place in any GoldSaucer-related things.
(e.g. "*_tif"'s dialogueIDs in the gamefile / branched GS subtitles are always at the second place, before "*_yfi" and after "*_art")
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>>744227895
This a before and after of mods?
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>Tifa is never anything else than a sloppy imposter
https://arch-img.b4k.dev/v/1780509309186.jpg
>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/740164362/#q740175870
>and a cheap substitute which always at the second place in anything relates GoldSaucer. >>744232539

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVBvJXvnqwo&t=14
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>>744229492
research what "pump and dump" is.
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>>744231112
Yeah, it's a new shader injector mod. It has some visual noise at max, but if you tweak it, disable one part of the mod and update your DLSS you can get rid of most all the noise. Much more satisfying to run around the open world without your characters looking like ghouls. Well, the pictured slightly distant Aerith still looks intimidating even with the mod, but it's much better than without. The mod even adds shadows to smaller foliage that never had shadows.

The mod became popular after DigitalFoundry did a video on it. You can skim through that if you want to see what it looks like for both objects and characters. The mod is convenient, you can turn it on/off with one key. That's how I took these screenshots.
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I love Tifaschizo.
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>>744233625
That injector is a game changer (heh), is so much enjoyable this way.
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>>744228124
God, I wish that were me. It's a shame we don't get much porn like this because these fucking Japs can't get laid and hate women so they're always drawing ryona cancer instead.
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>>744228317
Yes, the game ends with Cloud and Tifa together. They have sex under the Highwind. And Cloud confesses he had a crush on Tifa ever since he were kids, and everything he ever did was to impress her, he wanted to join Soldier so she would notice him. This is all part of the story. Ignore mentally ill Aerith schizos. The original game does not leave it out in the open who you want Cloud to end up. He ends up with Tifa and only Tifa, regardless of your choices. The whole "love triangle" thing is a lie, the developers clearly intended Cloud and Tifa to be together by the end of the game.
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>>744233745
People have been calling him "Koiamla", I think it's his username on Twitter.
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>>744234571
>tifaggot has to lie because reality is they don't get together and cloud is just pinning for aerith
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>>744234708
It's funny you get called an aerithschizo if you just say what happens in game
Goes to show how retarded tifacucks are
Game literally ends with cloud wanting to be with aerith, and tifa at best gets an optional romance before.
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>>744234571
>Yes, the game ends with Cloud and Tifa together. They have sex under the Highwind. And Cloud confesses he had a crush on Tifa ever since he were kids, and everything he ever did was to impress her, he wanted to join Soldier so she would notice him.
All of this is true, but it's omitting the fact that Cloud genuinely fell deeply in love with Aerith and out of love with Tifa in the romantic sense (they're still childhood friends who care for each other). Tifa got Cloud on the rebound when his soulmate died, but she'd never be able to cross that line if Aerith were still alive.
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>>744234778
Aerith schizos will say there's nothing romanting about Cloud dedicating his entire life to impress Tifa.
But when Cloud AND Tifa say they want to see Aerith when they're in the Northern Crater (with Tifa's theme playing, not Aerith's BTW), with Cloud holding Tifa in his arms, they'll say that's the most romantic scene. If anything, the ending absolutely debunks Aerith faggotry for good, since Cloud and Tifa are the focus in the entire sequence.
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>>744234094
It really is, makes me wonder how the game gets released in a state where there are no shadows and random lights, and a modder has to come clean it up years later.
Before this shader injector, my favorite mod was one that uses reshade to remove the smear/blur that exists whenever you pause the game. It made screenshots look so bad, hair looked awful, character models would blur at the edges. Why are the devs OK with that? I haven't managed to get that blur mod working again, been too busy actually playing the game.
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>>744225474
Correct, or just forgettable scenes
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>>744235064
>Cloud genuinely fell deeply in love with Aerith and out of love with Tifa in the romantic sense
This is absolutely false. Cloud was in coma the entire time. The Cloud who was madly in love with Tifa is not even a day away mentally from the current Cloud
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>>744233625
Sounds good. I don't do DLSS tho.
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>>744235119
>If anything, the ending absolutely debunks Aerith faggotry for good, since Cloud and Tifa are the focus in the entire sequence.
No one is disputing that Tifa won by process of elimination in the original timeline, but in the remake trilogy Cloud litterally breaks causality with the power of love and determination to save his waifu Aerith from her fate. Tifa's gonna need to move on.
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>>744235119
>Aerith schizos will say there's nothing romanting about Cloud dedicating his entire life to impress Tifa.
Not true, his backstory clearly shows he was an outcast and mainly wanted to be accepted by the town. His crush on tifa affected his decision too but you would have to ignore 99% of his backstory to pretend it's everything.
>But when Cloud AND Tifa say they want to see Aerith when they're in the Northern Crater
Cloud saw the vision of Aerith not Tifa
Cloud got told his star matches Aerith's star not tifa and how someone wants to marry them
Cloud said he wants to find an answer before talking about the planet answering him about reunting with aerith.
Tifa attaches herself as the third wheel, Cloud did not invite her along. Tifa being bitterly jealous of cloud and aerith in AC just further proves she is just the third wheel
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>>744235345
DLSS and preset M are intensive but probably give the best visual quality. But I don't think you need DLSS. I haven't tested it, but the mod has a Performance and a Quality version, I only used the quality version and had to turn one setting off.

If you use the Performance version of the mod, the game will probably look much better than vanilla, and you won't need DLSS or DLAA settings or whatever else, because there should already be less visual noise on performance mode. I haven't tested any of that, but I think I saw others in the comments who did. There are over 600 comments
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>>744235192
Cloud's pining for Tifa melts away after experiencing saving a damsel like Aerith. Tifa was too passive. Jessie was too forward. Aerith was just right. It's funny that Tifa fans never bring up that Cloud's mom likely knew about Cloud's crush on Tifa and still told Cloud to seek out an older more assertive girl for a girlfriend, likely because she didn't consider Tifa a good match for her son. Mother knows best.
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sex with Tifa Aerith Yuffie Kyrie Elena and Cissnei
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>>744226028
they should just make it hd2d or like the dragon quest remakes
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>>744236035
>Cloud's pining for Tifa melts away after experiencing saving a damsel like Aerith
Weird considering his subconscious tells Tifa that she should tell Cloud that she was thinking about him between the promise at the well and the Nibelheim incident because it'll make him happy and the novella stuff where Tifa catches Cloud smiling and he responds it's because he's starting a new life with Tifa.
>Cloud's mom likely knew about Cloud's crush on Tifa and still told Cloud to seek out an older more assertive girl for a girlfriend
Doesn't she says stuff like one that will take care of him or keep him out of trouble? I definitely don't remember anything about assertiveness.
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>>744229067
does DFAO just not work by default on the pc port? lol...
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>>744225474
If there's something ive learned after the reception of this game vs the original, is that "filler" is just a way of saying "things i dont like"
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>>744238198
>I definitely don't remember anything about assertiveness.
She says he should find himself an oneesan to keep him out of trouble. It could be she was referring to Tifa because of her mature caring personality, but the context of the conversation was Cloud finding a girlfriend in Midgard. The Remakes have Cloud experience this particular flashback with his mom prior to a conversation with Aerith, where she urges him to stay away for his own sake, as if Clouds mom prophesized Cloud would meet Aerith and she'd be his soulmate. Also probably useless trivia considering how much overt hinting is going on, but Aerith happens to also be a year older than Cloud and Tifa is a year younger.
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>>744228336
But RPG is not a time-based game. Let's say you finish on the sewer and feel tired. You can just save the game and continue the next week without worrying the plate is falling soon.
But I get it. That section is too stretched.
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>>744239673
>The Remakes have Cloud experience this particular flashback with his mom prior to a conversation with Aerith
link a video of this
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>>744239020
The plot going to a standstill because the devs want me to walk on pipes for 30 minutes fighting copy pasted enemies is filler. The pacing sucks.
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>>744240192
I was remembering wrong, the flashback happens at the end of chapter 8. Aeriths mom tells Cloud to leave in secret and he lies awake remembering his mom. Aerith scolds him if she catches him leaving his room, and then follows him when he successfully sneaks out because she's worried and smitten.
https://youtu.be/gIhmbO-9OdQ?si=dA7kAgWWPEAOym0B&t=2426
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>>744241289
Cloud's mom is confirmed to be talking about an aerith type. It was even in utlimania.
Aerith is also described word for word using the same 'onee-san' type as cloud's mom tells cloud is the prefect gf for him. even hamaguchi confirmed it last year
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>>744239673
That scene happens in Aerith's house in the OG too. You actually see it twice, first there and then as part of the Nibelheim flashback, remake/rebirth does the same thing
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>>744225474
Many are saying this
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>>744241546
I'd argue Aerith does none of the things Cloud's mom talks about. She doesn't take care of Cloud and Cloud is literally hired as her bodyguard to take care of her instead. She doesn't keep Cloud out of trouble, she's an additional concern when dealing with both Shinra and Sephiroth.
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>>744241715
the context there is that sleeping in a bed was what triggered the memory though
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>>744241810
The remakes make it more clear with all their extra conversations that Aerith does fuss over Cloud in her own way. Half the reason she follows Cloud to Wallmarket is because of that towns reputation as a seedy place.
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>>744242775
Ah yes, the girl that hired a bodyguard to escort her safely home was worried about the bodyguard not being able to handle the hoodlums that she could. She gives Cloud a better excuse up front, that he doesn't know the lay of the land so it would be easier and quicker to show him the way.
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>>744243130
Cloud may be a badass, but that doesn't mean he can't get scammed or taken advantage of. Just having another person to sniff out scammers would help Cloud avoid having to tear up the place when people try to stiff him with a huge bill and then keep him from leaving.
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what the FUCK happened to square?

this isn't AI btw, you PUBG drop into the map now in FF7 remake.
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>>744243480
>this isn't AI btw
You are so cute, like, you actually expect someone to say "YIKES!? parachutes in ff7??? nah...that has to be AI, little bro...right? right??? *sigh*"
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>>744235695
Linux and AMD card but generally I've never used there version either because like DLSS its generally made games look worse. Maybe this is the exception.
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>>744243447
>get scammed
he's just trying to get through Sector 6, he's not on a vacation or trying to see the sights
>or taken advantage of
If someone in the slums could take out Cloud then Shinra has bigger things to worry about him and Avalanche
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>>744225474
It's closer to 80-90% filler, I had probably played 2-3 hours of actual relevant content when I dropped the game halfway through Wall Market.
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>you now remember in 2015 when people were saying turn-based is outdated and that it's better for 7R to not go that route
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>>744243849
>It's closer to 80-90% filler
Just around 30%. The rest is main story line and characterization.
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>>744243762
in the overworld? from the airship?
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>>744226693
GOD I FUCKING WISH THAT WAS MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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the game is so fucking boring its filled with random sidequest shit
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>>744243983
Not that guy but I'd imagine it was done so they wouldn't have to deal with landing the Highwind on much more uneven terrain than OG FF7's simple map, though I guess that begs the question of how the party will get back on.
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>>744243873
they were correct, the combat is the least worst thing about the remake. only problem is they didn't lean further into the kingdom hearts 2fm style combat; it's too shallow.
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kill all turd based sissies
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>>744244596
>>>/vt/ranny
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>>744244596
It's funny that FF16 set her expectations so low she was surprised that FF7 was actually a jrpg.
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>>744243480
>I hate fun: the post
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>>744243480
The environment looks so fucking bad too.
the environments in FF7 looked colorful and memorable. even the world map.
this washed out shit just looks like cluttered auto-generated unreal engine slop.

all of the fights that occur in the open are just an incomprehensible mess of cluttered visual noise because the retards making this game don't know the first thing about visual design, making your game readable at a glance and making your characters stand out from the background.
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>>744228124
Imagine her smell stink scent
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>>744243480
>Fortnite Fantasy VII
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>>744244596
>imagine 16 being your first FF
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>>744243809
Well, the github for the mod has a section for Linux support, so if you put a bit of effort in finding instructions, the mod is probably pretty easy to enable
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>>744226028
fucking retarded
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any recommendations for the best coomer mods in both games?
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tifa is not hot
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>>744229585
It's literally just the lighting. Her textures are entirely untouched.
Bad rendering is not realism.
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>>744225368
>can't emphasize feminine figure
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>>744244596
Why do retards type like that, it makes me irrationally mad.
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>>744236035
>Cloud's pining for Tifa melts away after experiencing saving a damsel like Aerith.

cloud was pinning for Tifa in the midgar arc? I thought Tifa was subtly trying to rizz him and he was putting on the stoic act... was he actually interested in her in the beginning of the game? I thought that part of him needed to 'unlock' as it were? Tifa seems fairly warm, open and confident with Cloud until Aerith starts to joins the picture then Tifa gets humbled and her confidence takes a hit. but was cloud legit interested up to that point? or was he just playing the 'cool guy?' I mean, they literally had so many private scene in the apartments with Tifa acting sweet and confident. if cloud was legit interested something would have happened.
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>>744236035
>It's funny that Tifa fans never bring up that Cloud's mom likely knew about Cloud's crush on Tifa and still told Cloud to seek out an older more assertive girl for a girlfriend, likely because she didn't consider Tifa a good match for her son. Mother knows best.
I remeber that from the OG game, I took it as the game trying to steer you towards Aerith then break you heart once she dies, Cloud's mom likely knows her son's inferiority complex and figured aiming for Tifa was the wrong move, either tifa was out of his league, or the bridge incident left some friction between the families, again the mom probably didn't know about the promises, or Tifa posibly having a crush on him, plus that memory is painfully hacked up and he is lying down. maybe he confessed to his mom the promise and his failure to join Soldier and was ashamed, and he assumed he failed to impress Tifa and rather than talk him back into confidence, she tried to tell him to move onto some one else who won't care that he failed to get into solider, again, she and cloud have no idea Tifa has a crush on him, Cloud lacked the confidence to show his face while tifa in reality was waiting but the entrance at dawn wanting to see cloud and was disappointed when he wasn't among the shinra group
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>>744225368
Meh, I'm actually kinda tired if these FF characters by now.
Can we just move on?
How about we get Capcom should do an actual good remake of Dino crisis.
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>>744241289
>and then follows him when he successfully sneaks out because she's worried and smitten.
so between tifa and Aerith who comes off more smitten? Aerith, tends to act more socially confident than tifa, she is a sempai so it makes sense, but she still has feelings for Zack, While Tifa has a huge crush on cloud and takes a confidence hit once Aerith enters the picture, not to mention once she realizes cloud's mind is messed up, she still clings to him. I kinda think tifa is down hard if even with the possibility that cloud is a clone, she still cries after cloud breaks.
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>>744226028
I don't get it, how does it take t games to recreate ONE fucking game? I get new graphics but storage has increased and MAYBE you could make an argument for 2 games, but how the fuck does it need 5?
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>>744225368

It's a 30-40 hour game bloated to 100+ hours because of all the fucking minigames.
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>>744251813
We're living in feudal China and eunuchs are in charge of us while the lords are fucking children and bathing in peasant tears.
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>>744227895
soul, soulless
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>Ethnics Department.
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>>744255708
>Eunuchs Department
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>>744255708
can't show feminine curves huh? boy they would hate Sora Inue's art style
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>>744254369
I mean, if he can shrug off this look...
seriously, cloud seems more interested in tifa in rebirth vs remake.
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>>744255562
truer words have never been spoken
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>>744257106
be serious
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>>744257753
is her even looking at Tifa in these scenes?
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i think golden eye for n64 was better than final fantasy redditbirth
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>>744254856
it does not matter which girl likes cloud more.

you should notice the actions of cloud, he uses all his strength and human dialogue towards aerith.

the fact he lets another man catch her is hilarious
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>>744258062
>it does not matter which girl likes cloud more.
I mean it kinda does, Aerith can switch to Zack at anytime if he wasn't dead, Tifa has Johnny as an option but doesn't seem interested in him, while she is really smitten with cloud.
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>>744251570
she's adorable though
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>>744258062
>you should notice the actions of cloud, he uses all his strength and human dialogue towards aerith.
I've noticed this... this something to do with merged memories with Zack? or is Aerith legit getting more out of cloud. in Remake, Tifa is borderline throwing herself at cloud and seems to barely tempt him, does he legit not have Feelings for Tifa, or he does and is being stoic? again, too many scene in an apartment together and he is not ogling tifa like he starts doing in Rebirth.
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>>744239020
>things i dont like
so filler you retard
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>>744258701
>your dad tells you a story about his past

>oh my god i am now my own father that means i must be in love with my mother because me and my dads memories are merged
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>>744259064
well if he acts like zack, might the zack side of him be what intrigues Aerith?
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>>744259325
name one scene where cloud acts like zack

fighting doesnt count because soldier 2c and 3c use swords in the game
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>>744259660
I mean, isn't that the more cool guy persona he plays during the midgar arc? he softened up alot once they leave midgar.

I noticed that in Crisis Core they made Zack a little more of dork, but in the OG game its implied he's a legit bad ass that cloud looks up to.
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>>744231097
Hes literally right though.
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>>744255708
>>744251813
Hmm a negative VIIR story...
How do I spin this so nobody thinks it's important, and that it's cringe to care about it?
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>>744257106
I mean yeah, Cloud does seem to get his heart melted by Tifa more in Rebirth than remake,
either Aerith cracked the armor a little for him, or Tifa's confidence hit when Aerith entered the picture made her shy and insecure side come out and Cloud's protective side came out in response. Mind you cloud wants to be the hero that saves the Damsel, not the loser who is being cared for and dotted upon by the girl he wants to impress. tifa has a heart that will sink the titanic with he caring nature, but being cared for wasn't what he was hoping to be to Tifa, Tifa dropping the mask of confidence to exposed her own insecurities and needs probably gave him something to protect.
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>>744225368
Anon what you're seeing is FF7 porn clips. They aren't in the game.
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>>744260095
I have said it before, and I will say it again, Tifa's rack got nerfed, yes, but the boob budget when into the cuteness budget... really hard to complain about that. but still don't get how Tifa got her hip-length hair all into a bun...
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>>744260378
its a mod
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>>744229067
is this that new shader injector mod?
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I never played or intended to play FF7. But i did finish 6, 9 and 10.

Is this remake worth playing now that it feels new to me anyway?
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>>744225474
>"Mom, I did it again. I lied on 4chan!"
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>>744226693
>navel piercing
Vile harlot.
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>>744251813
>Roberto Ferrari
I thought an italian would fight tooth and nail to get the most sexual Tifa into the game.
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>>744260932
Italy has betrayed their species
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>>744254864
At this he's just trolling you in order to exhaust you mentally.
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>>744260932
He did.
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>>744255708
Based Roberto telling it like it is.
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>>744260316
Actually, its the Jessie chapter that causes Cloud to slowly let people in before Aerith more or less yanks the door right open between 8 and 9.
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>>744227895
no more dead eyes.
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>>744261990
huh, well I must have missed that. So technically tifa wasn't going to get through to him till Jessie and Aerith hussled their way in, was it that Jessie and Aerith were more aggressive and Tifa was more subtle?
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>>744254864
Its called scope creep.
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>>744225581
given how many people bought remake, but not rebirth. Its safe to say majority of people did not like the filler content.
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>>744225474
>lying on the internet
Why are you browncels like this?
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>>744235119
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>>744262239
He didnt spend much time with Tifa at the start of 7R since they only just met and the events of Chapter 3 were just like an afternoon. What causes Cloud to soften is when he finds out Jessie's situation from the boys and then puts himself into her shoes by equating it to his life back home. I recall him doing a sort of clunky awkward way to provide symphathy but it flies over her head. Then when time jannies break her leg, Cloud decides to join up mostly for Jessie's sake.
Cloud/Tifa's friendship slowly starts to rekindle from that point. Meanwhile, Aerith shows up, wraps Cloud round her finger and basically forces him into her tempo. This becomes obvious with the multiple high five attempts and the framing as a couple in wall market. Then both girls immediately hit it off and Cloud is more or less fully open to the rest of the party but in a blink and you'll miss it kind of way.
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>>744262379
the main story itself consists of 60% filler, retard, which is even worse
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>>744262595
>brown retard is still lying on the internet.
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>>744262448
japanese style pouts are wonderful
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>>744262595
>>744225474
Rebirth has a lot of optional side content, but Remake doesn't. That latter is actually very linear. You are just full of shit.
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>>744226028
funny. a friend is playing FF 1-6 for first time and he is starting and finishing each one a day (8-9 hours from what he told me)
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>>744262379

Anon the section the remake is based on is barely 4 hours long.
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>>744262573
okay, so I probably didn't play far enough to see that transition.

I will admit i was feeling a bit miffed with tifa really was going out of her way to open cloud up but without much luck and i don't know, my 2nd playthrough of the origenal was when tifa became my favorite character and I felt bad that cloud was acting indifferent to her.



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